Rebel News Podcast - July 21, 2025


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Tamara Lich, Chris Barber trial reeks of political retribution


Episode Stats

Length

48 minutes

Words per Minute

154.19249

Word Count

7,523

Sentence Count

586

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

10


Summary

Tamara Leach is back in court on Wednesday, and the Crown Prosecution is asking for her to be jailed for years. We take you through their court filing, and read the key paragraph to make you furious.


Transcript

00:00:00.120 Hello, my friends. Big show today. We see the Crown Prosecution's demands for Tamara Leach to be thrown in prison for years.
00:00:10.180 I'll take you through their court briefing and read the key paragraph to you.
00:00:14.900 You will be furious. Tamara Leach, who, if the prosecutor had their way, would do more time in prison than a murderer.
00:00:24.480 Got that and so much more on today's show.
00:00:26.220 But first, let me invite you to become a subscriber to what we call Rebel News Plus.
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00:00:46.960 Tonight, Tamara Leach is back in court on Wednesday.
00:00:50.300 And Rebel News and the Democracy Fund will be there.
00:00:53.020 It's July 22nd, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:00:55.620 You're fighting for freedom.
00:00:58.900 Shame on you, you sensorism bug.
00:01:10.900 You know, a lot of people have tried to put it out of their minds, throw it down the memory hole, as they say in 1984.
00:01:16.900 But lockdowns were the central story of our lives in the early 2020s.
00:01:23.360 It was an attack on the people, and it was often violent, by the way.
00:01:28.020 I mean, some of the craziest examples were this young man skating outside by himself on a public skating rink that was open,
00:01:37.500 and Calgary police threatening to taser him if he didn't stop skating by himself.
00:01:44.580 Remember this craziness?
00:01:46.500 Just for skating on the outdoor rink, okay?
00:01:49.500 Leave it with me.
00:01:51.500 As long as they're finished dealing with you.
00:01:53.780 You guys asked him to get off the ice.
00:01:57.920 Keep videoing.
00:01:58.720 You guys asked him to get off the ice.
00:02:00.180 What are you guys doing?
00:02:02.240 What are you guys doing?
00:02:03.080 We're arresting you guys.
00:02:03.940 For what?
00:02:04.960 For what?
00:02:05.600 For what?
00:02:07.080 For skating on the ocean.
00:02:08.260 For what?
00:02:08.680 Please.
00:02:09.220 Okay.
00:02:10.160 Ocean.
00:02:11.340 Don't tease me, okay?
00:02:12.740 Handcuff.
00:02:13.280 Get on the ground then!
00:02:14.840 Get on the fucking ground!
00:02:17.880 Handcuff!
00:02:18.940 What are you doing?
00:02:20.840 It was even crazier in other parts of the world.
00:02:24.540 Remember where our Australia correspondent, Avi Amini, was like his second day on the job,
00:02:29.480 and a cop just didn't like his style and arrested him and pummeled him for reporting on some
00:02:37.020 protest.
00:02:37.400 I don't even know why, but this was normal back then.
00:02:39.700 Remember that?
00:02:40.600 It was quite peaceful until...
00:02:42.480 Let's go to him!
00:02:43.060 He's not here for any purposes or reason.
00:02:45.220 Andy, let's go to him!
00:02:46.200 He's under arrest.
00:02:47.900 But this guy here is going to be placed under arrest right now.
00:02:50.720 I'm under arrest.
00:02:51.500 I'm under arrest.
00:02:53.140 I'm media.
00:02:54.640 I am media.
00:02:55.960 I'm media.
00:02:58.900 I've got my permit in my pocket.
00:03:02.700 My permit is in my pocket.
00:03:04.740 I'm fine.
00:03:05.280 I'm fine.
00:03:05.680 Of course, the craziest was in California, where they sent police in heavy SWAT team style
00:03:12.180 weaponry and garb for people sitting by themselves on the beach.
00:03:17.240 Just utterly nuts.
00:03:19.380 And we all went along with it.
00:03:20.440 And by the way, violence isn't just doing the violence.
00:03:23.760 It's the threat of violence.
00:03:25.400 That is a form of violence, too.
00:03:27.240 You could even say that's a kind of terrorism.
00:03:30.420 We were threatened that if we didn't wear masks, if we didn't stay six feet away from
00:03:34.800 each other, if we didn't stay out of church, even in a time of a funeral, if we didn't close
00:03:41.660 our businesses, we would be punished severely.
00:03:44.940 We would lose our jobs if we didn't take an experimental medicine.
00:03:48.240 That is a kind of violence.
00:03:50.260 That is a kind of terrorism, in a way, to be frank, to be forced to do something against
00:03:56.480 your will on pain of violence.
00:03:58.520 The fight back did not come from the so-called checks and balances in our constitutional democracy,
00:04:08.040 all of which failed.
00:04:10.040 The governor general didn't stop any of this.
00:04:13.200 The courts themselves didn't stop it.
00:04:15.160 They were full of people, aged themselves, who were scared and who, by nature, deferred to
00:04:22.020 authority.
00:04:22.620 The judges were of no help.
00:04:24.920 Doctors were cowed into silence.
00:04:27.240 Any doctor who gave a second opinion found himself suspended.
00:04:32.520 The media was the easiest part of them.
00:04:35.020 They were simply bought off by the government.
00:04:38.120 Oh, the grossest was the comedians.
00:04:40.620 Remember this from Stephen Colbert?
00:04:43.020 It's so cringeworthy every time I see it.
00:04:45.680 Remember this?
00:04:46.560 The vaccine.
00:04:47.620 Yeah, gee, I can't understand why he's losing $40 million a year for Paramount.
00:05:15.220 Maybe it's because people are sort of sick of being lectured to politics with a laugh
00:05:20.360 track.
00:05:20.740 It's not comedy.
00:05:22.180 I think a real disappointment was the opposition parties that did not oppose.
00:05:27.140 I remember the debates in the 2021 general election.
00:05:31.980 It was unanimous agreement.
00:05:34.060 All five of the parties who were there, there was no meaningful difference between what the
00:05:39.140 Green Party and the NDP would say and what the so-called conservatives under Aaron O'Toole
00:05:44.440 would say.
00:05:45.620 There were no professors or scholars who were dared to question.
00:05:49.640 If they did, they were sacked as well.
00:05:52.580 You know, as Orwell wrote, I mentioned in 1984 again, if there was to be any hope, it was
00:05:58.260 with the proles.
00:05:59.380 That's what Orwell called the proletariat, the working class.
00:06:03.580 And so it was that in 2022, we were saved.
00:06:07.040 Not by any political party, not by any newspaper, not by a judge, not by the queen or the governor
00:06:13.460 general, but by truckers.
00:06:16.960 Trustworthy truckers.
00:06:17.880 Everyone trusts a trucker.
00:06:19.020 Everyone knows truckers work hard.
00:06:21.040 It's a lonely job.
00:06:22.080 And they do it to serve us.
00:06:24.780 And the truckers decided to go to Ottawa.
00:06:27.240 And it was very organic.
00:06:28.820 There was no one leader.
00:06:30.420 People sort of had the idea at the same time and they thought, yeah, it's time to do this.
00:06:36.060 It's my estimate that 100,000 people participated in some way for some period of time.
00:06:45.280 Obviously not all 100,000 made it to Ottawa, but many thousands did.
00:06:50.160 And there were echo convoys around the country.
00:06:52.380 My estimate is 100,000 people did something as part of the convoy and a more meaningful
00:06:59.440 estimate on my part.
00:07:01.160 And if you remember what it was like along the highways, you might agree with me.
00:07:05.940 I estimate that one million Canadians saw the convoy with their own eyes and they went
00:07:12.260 out.
00:07:12.500 I remember in my own neighborhood, people going out over the mighty 401 highway that cuts
00:07:17.480 through Toronto.
00:07:18.140 Now, Torontonians, in some ways the most obedient Laurentian liberals, wanted to see with their
00:07:24.400 own eyes this convoy they had heard of.
00:07:27.520 And they didn't want to learn about it through CTV or CBC or the Globe and Mail.
00:07:31.040 They wanted to see it directly with their own eyes, to see it for themselves, because by
00:07:34.300 then they had learned not to trust the regime media.
00:07:38.680 It was the truckers that saved us.
00:07:41.460 Now, Justin Trudeau and company, they welcomed this because they thought they were much clever
00:07:48.020 much more clever than the truckers.
00:07:50.120 And they thought they could redefine the convoy as some sort of a copy of the January 6th insurrectionists.
00:07:58.920 If you look at the videotape from January 6th, I think my friend Gavin McInnes is more accurate
00:08:03.160 when he calls it the great meandering.
00:08:06.760 But Justin Trudeau and the regime media had decided that was going to be the script.
00:08:12.220 So they welcomed the truckers into the city.
00:08:14.620 In fact, you'll remember that the police escorted them in, told them where they could and couldn't
00:08:19.200 park.
00:08:20.280 But the conduct of the truckers made it such that it was impossible to compare them with
00:08:26.040 insurrectionists.
00:08:26.920 For one thing, they didn't go anywhere.
00:08:30.140 Parliament was actually closed for renovations.
00:08:33.040 The truckers just stayed on the lawn in front of the closed parliament and they stayed in
00:08:38.020 their trucks.
00:08:38.440 It was so very cold.
00:08:40.060 So I went down for a few days and I'm delighted with what I saw.
00:08:44.880 I'm glad I went there to see it for myself.
00:08:46.840 And I was inspired to say a few words.
00:08:48.740 It was very brief, but I have to say it was definitely a career highlight.
00:08:52.740 Do you remember my quick pronunciations to the truckers?
00:08:55.440 Here's a flashback of that.
00:08:56.540 Everybody recognize this guy?
00:09:00.820 Does anybody know the name Ezra LeVant?
00:09:06.440 Does anybody know the name Ezra LeVant?
00:09:10.060 It's great to be here and on behalf of Rebel News, I salute you.
00:09:27.740 Justin Trudeau's heart. It's great to be here and on behalf of Rebel News, I salute you and I say keep speaking truth to power. But I want to tell you what excites me the most about this crowd. I see a lot of cameras, a lot of independent journalists, because when people say what do we do about the media, I say you become the media, that's what you do.
00:09:57.740 The media acts like a party. The media party. It's a subsidiary of the Liberal Party. So you've got to tell the story yourselves. Everyone who is here, everyone who is along the road, has to bear witness and testify to what they saw.
00:10:18.000 Because there's two competing narratives. The government says you're racist. The government says you're sexist. The government says you're violent.
00:10:27.620 In the meantime, I've never seen a more diverse group of Canadians.
00:10:36.040 And far from violence, people want to not be violated anymore.
00:10:43.040 Justin Trudeau says you're extreme, but he's the one who has violated our civil rights.
00:10:49.040 He says you're a fringe. Well, that's a pretty bloody big fringe.
00:10:58.920 Let me close by saying this. Someone asked me this morning, what's the point? What's going to happen?
00:11:07.020 Why did we all gather in Ottawa? Is he going to listen? Is he going to resign?
00:11:12.440 Is the Governor General going to ask him to step down? No, he'll hold on to power as hard as he can.
00:11:19.660 Let me tell you what I think the point is.
00:11:23.280 The point is the convoy itself.
00:11:26.240 To show that you're not alone.
00:11:29.120 To show that you're not the crazy one they are.
00:11:32.940 To show that you're not the anti-human one they are.
00:11:36.560 You already achieved your goal just by being here.
00:11:45.620 And the fact that millions of dollars came into the GoFundMe for the truckers,
00:11:51.420 even if they would have cancelled that, it was still a success.
00:11:57.000 Because it was a measurement of how much people cared.
00:12:01.320 You have succeeded just by being here.
00:12:09.000 He got the fights.
00:12:12.000 Congratulations to the organizers.
00:12:14.320 But really, it was millions of Canadians along the way in the convoy and watching today from home.
00:12:22.420 Tell them what happened.
00:12:25.100 Tell them what you saw.
00:12:27.380 Because they will not hear the truth from anyone else.
00:12:30.700 Keep up the fight, everybody.
00:12:32.860 Keep fighting for freedom.
00:12:35.320 Let's go!
00:12:37.640 Let's go, baby!
00:12:39.160 Let's go, Andrew!
00:12:40.440 Let's go!
00:12:42.200 Woo!
00:12:45.760 All right, I'm going to tell you a little story.
00:12:47.880 There was a public-mindedness to the people who were there.
00:12:51.600 These were not rent-a-mobs.
00:12:53.000 These were not professional protesters.
00:12:54.780 And I tell you, when it gets down to minus 20s, you have to have a good reason to be there or you wouldn't be there.
00:13:01.460 And people had their good reasons.
00:13:03.680 The conduct of the truckers was outstanding.
00:13:07.080 They shoveled the sidewalks.
00:13:08.700 They picked up the garbage.
00:13:10.120 The Ottawa police confirms that crime fell in the city court with their presence.
00:13:16.480 And even though the regime media did not come out of their office towers to meet with the grubby and dangerous truckers, citizen journalists did.
00:13:24.820 And Rebel News was at the front of that.
00:13:26.920 We covered the convoy 23 days straight.
00:13:29.560 That's where Alexa LaVoie and Lincoln Jay made their bones.
00:13:33.860 And they did a great job and have both gone on to great things.
00:13:37.660 In that time, they were the world's eyes and ears on the convoy.
00:13:43.340 I should say that for the first days of it, the police worked regularly with the truckers arranging things, keeping lanes open downtown for emergency vehicles, moving away from residential areas into government areas.
00:13:57.520 And one of the leaders who sort of emerged, was effervesced to the top, was Tamera Leach, who in a way was a spiritual leader.
00:14:06.760 She would give moral guidance and encouragement and speak from the heart.
00:14:11.400 The truckers themselves actually worked through a lawyer to interact with police, which I thought was very wise.
00:14:18.420 The truckers, in short, were winning.
00:14:21.860 They didn't live down to Trudeau's expectations.
00:14:24.480 They lived up to their own hopes.
00:14:27.260 And they became an international sensation.
00:14:30.520 Suddenly, Trudeau was embarrassed, by the working class, no less.
00:14:34.720 For the first time in my lifetime, Canada was in the news in an impressive, exciting way.
00:14:41.600 Everyone around the world was watching.
00:14:43.820 And so Trudeau, well, he panicked.
00:14:47.240 He ordered the police to crack down.
00:14:49.340 He invoked martial law, something not even done during 9-11.
00:14:53.400 Now, you know all this.
00:14:56.100 Everything I've said to you, I've said before.
00:14:57.940 Just, hey, do me a favor and don't forget about it completely.
00:15:01.460 But let me ask you, I suppose it's called a counterfactual.
00:15:06.340 What would have happened if the truckers didn't do what they did?
00:15:10.860 Or worse, if the truckers had been led by people who were of weaker character or malicious or something else?
00:15:18.920 I mean, in a way, no one knew who these trucker leaders were.
00:15:23.120 They were not members of political parties that we had heard of.
00:15:26.380 They were not people who had shown leadership in the public realm before.
00:15:30.340 They are people who decided in a crisis that they would rise to the occasion.
00:15:33.680 And thank God they were who they were.
00:15:36.700 Because imagine for a moment, if you will, an alternative history, a kind of historical fiction.
00:15:43.920 Sometimes those are the best novels, aren't they?
00:15:46.200 What would happen if America had lost the Second World War?
00:15:49.820 There's a whole TV series about that, wasn't there?
00:15:52.460 What would have happened in this historical fiction if, I don't know, the truckers were led by feds, by agents, provocateurs, by people who, God forbid, were violent or people who were trying to impugn conservatives or freedom fighters.
00:16:08.880 If they were extremists in some way, if they had weapons with me and with them and brandished them.
00:16:14.580 Instead, of course, they had bouncy castles and hot tubs.
00:16:17.000 That was the imagery beamed around the world.
00:16:18.960 The only extremism was the obviously false flag, swastika flag, which we now know the media don't actually care about.
00:16:27.240 There's swastika flags every day in this country at Hamas marches.
00:16:30.520 The media don't care.
00:16:31.240 But then they deeply cared because they knew they could smear the protesters with it.
00:16:35.040 But everyone knew that was a false flag.
00:16:37.780 I say again, what would have happened or what would not have happened if it was led by people of poor character or with ulterior motive?
00:16:45.820 Well, thinking of Alberta, Jason Kenney, the lockdown premier, the one who was prosecuting the churches, he blinked after the echo convoy in Coots, Alberta.
00:16:57.840 He blinked and soon he was replaced by his own party.
00:17:01.420 Perhaps that would not have happened.
00:17:04.420 Aaron O'Toole, the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, he initially told his MPs, do not meet with the truckers.
00:17:11.820 Do not even talk to them.
00:17:13.160 Well, that was the final straw.
00:17:15.520 They defenestrated him.
00:17:17.200 By the way, that's a wonderful word.
00:17:19.040 Do you ever use that word defenestrate?
00:17:21.400 It's from the French for fenetra, for window.
00:17:24.680 It means to throw someone out a window.
00:17:27.120 Aaron O'Toole was defenestrated and I was there for every moment of that.
00:17:31.960 How lovely.
00:17:33.220 Pierre Polyev ascended in his place.
00:17:35.420 Think about that.
00:17:37.140 Think about if Aaron O'Toole had not been thrown out.
00:17:40.740 Because think if the truckers were malign and if Aaron O'Toole's edict had been obeyed.
00:17:45.540 Imagine going into the last election with Aaron O'Toole.
00:17:49.880 The truckers did something far more important than replace Aaron O'Toole and Jason Kenney.
00:17:54.600 They broke the psychological trance, what is sometimes called mass formation psychosis.
00:18:01.720 They broke it.
00:18:02.540 It's like we snapped out of the dreams, snapped out of the hypnosis.
00:18:08.380 The truckers were the turning point.
00:18:11.400 People started to wake up and shake the dust off and say, what have we been doing for two years?
00:18:19.240 Now, at first, the punishments got far worse.
00:18:21.360 Of course, they did.
00:18:22.000 Martial law, beatings, riot horses, stomping on people, prison for the activists.
00:18:27.460 The system, by the way, is still vengeful.
00:18:29.840 But without Tamara Leach and without the leadership of the trucker convoy, do you doubt that today, I mean here in 2025, that we would be under Justin Trudeau still or a Mark Carney majority?
00:18:49.220 Do you doubt that if we had stuck with Aaron O'Toole as the leader of the Conservative Party and Pierre Paulyet was a disgruntled backbencher, do you doubt that Aaron O'Toole would just be the happy loser and Trudeau would be starting yet another term with a majority?
00:19:07.180 Well, it didn't work out that way.
00:19:09.160 Thank goodness that historical fiction did not come to pass.
00:19:11.740 Instead, Canada came back from the abyss.
00:19:15.180 Yes, we have other abysses we're staring into, but that one we dodged, which brings us back to the Empire.
00:19:21.320 The Empire is striking back a shocking conviction of Tamara Leach.
00:19:26.180 She was convicted of mischief a few months ago.
00:19:28.900 I'm happy to say that she is appealing that conviction, but this week will be her sentencing in Ottawa.
00:19:36.200 Rebel News will be there.
00:19:36.960 I'll be there personally.
00:19:38.580 We may have one or two others with me.
00:19:40.400 You know, Tamara Leach, like I say, was the most important person in the most important story in a generation in terms of freedom.
00:19:51.460 Rebel News is delighted to be associated with her and work with her every chance we get.
00:19:55.200 We went on tour with her and her book, which we published.
00:19:57.600 I say this because the government has gone crazy against her.
00:20:03.800 You already know that.
00:20:04.480 They've been going crazy against her for three and a half years.
00:20:07.360 I was in Lethbridge, Alberta a few months ago for the sentencing of the so-called Coutts Three.
00:20:14.120 Those are the three men who the government said led the Coutts mini-protest at the border between Alberta and Montana.
00:20:21.720 That was sort of a regional echo of the convoy to Ottawa.
00:20:27.500 It was three, actually, local residents, Dutch Canadians, hard-working class people.
00:20:35.520 And I thought they ought to have been acquitted, alas they were not.
00:20:39.980 But when it came to the sentencing for mischief, I sat in that court and I listened incredibly carefully to the judge.
00:20:46.780 Keith Yamauchi was his name, not only a very accomplished lawyer and now a judge, but a law professor, too.
00:20:54.700 So he thinks and he has a deep reading of it.
00:20:57.800 And I watched and listened and I live tweeted and I made videos about it, about how carefully Justice Yamauchi went through all the case law about political protests for which someone was charged with mischief.
00:21:10.060 Most of the cases, it won't surprise you to learn, were about environmental extremists who went too far, who were trying to block a pipeline or trying to block forestry.
00:21:19.320 An enormous number of the cases were from British Columbia, you can imagine, but there were Alberta cases and others as well.
00:21:23.640 And I think Justice Yamauchi must have gone through 20 or 30 cases and it became very clear to me there was a commonality.
00:21:34.980 If someone had not committed a crime before, if the crime was mischief involving a political act of disobedience of some sort,
00:21:42.860 in every single case where the person expressed some desire to get back to the path of lawfulness,
00:21:52.640 in every single case, there was no custodial sentence, which by which in fancy language means there was no jail.
00:22:01.820 Even for people who held up entire logging or pipeline operations and inflicted enormous costs on companies,
00:22:09.600 the justice system, for better or for worse, let them go with a slap on the wrist at best.
00:22:15.560 Many of them, what's called a discharge.
00:22:17.400 They were found guilty, but then it was as if their criminal record was washed away.
00:22:21.980 And I sat there and I listened to this and indeed two out of the three of the Coutts three got no custodial sentence whatsoever.
00:22:29.580 They walked right out of court that day for free.
00:22:32.680 The third had a different reason that he was actually sentenced to jail,
00:22:37.680 but it was a complicating factor that was irrelevant here.
00:22:41.340 And my point is, I saw an excellent judge who's also a professor,
00:22:47.480 who had convicted, who these men were convicted by a jury,
00:22:50.840 and he gave the men who were comparable to Tamara Leach, no jail time, zero.
00:22:58.820 And he didn't do this as a favor to them.
00:23:01.260 He did this because that is the legal precedent.
00:23:03.580 The core tenet of our legal system in Latin is stare decisis, stand by the decision, as in follow the precedent.
00:23:13.560 That way people know what the law is.
00:23:16.640 You know, if 20 cases say, if you commit mischief and in a political vein,
00:23:22.040 but are not violent and show some regret, you'll be let go with a warning on your first instance with no jail.
00:23:27.520 20 cases set the precedent, and Justice Yamauchi gave it to the men in Coutts.
00:23:32.520 And so I look at Tamara Leach, and I understand, as you know, she's going for sentencing on Wednesday,
00:23:37.680 and the government has filed their written brief of what they think the punishment should be.
00:23:44.340 Now, I just told you that 20 cases or more involving protesters who commit mischief and all found guilty,
00:23:52.700 20 cases say there's no jail time.
00:23:56.800 But here is what the Crown prosecutors demand.
00:24:01.360 I'm going to show it on the screen here.
00:24:02.820 I just want to show you who wrote it.
00:24:05.460 Siobhan Wetscher and Tim Ratcliffe.
00:24:07.320 And who are they?
00:24:09.200 Assistant Crown Attorneys at the Ottawa Crown Attorney's Office.
00:24:14.420 Let me be crystal clear.
00:24:16.360 Remember, these are not feds working for Justin Trudeau or Mark Carney.
00:24:22.240 These are provincial government employees.
00:24:25.540 These are Doug Ford's people, not Mark Carney's people.
00:24:29.180 The so-called conservative premier of Ontario and his attorney general have drafted and submitted this to the court.
00:24:37.520 And I'm just going to read one paragraph.
00:24:39.400 It's paragraph 11.
00:24:40.480 It sums it all up.
00:24:42.700 Quote,
00:24:43.180 And one year consecutive for counseling others to disobey a court order for barber.
00:25:09.080 In addition, the Crown also seeks a forfeiture order for a red 2004 Kenworth truck.
00:25:18.180 Big red registered to CB Trucking, a company owned by barber.
00:25:23.320 The forfeiture order will be argued at a separate hearing yet to be scheduled.
00:25:28.060 Yeah, no, no, no.
00:25:29.340 That is nuts.
00:25:30.540 That is not lawful.
00:25:32.200 That is not precedent following.
00:25:34.620 That is punitive.
00:25:35.940 That's a vendetta.
00:25:36.920 That's out-of-control prosecutors.
00:25:39.440 Look at that.
00:25:40.620 Seven years in prison and eight for barber and taking his tool of earning a living, taking his truck.
00:25:47.700 We are in a country, I don't know if you saw this the other day, where a 14-year-old boy murders a woman at random.
00:25:58.180 And I say that because although he hasn't been convicted yet, he went on a live stream and confessed it.
00:26:05.600 Did you see that video?
00:26:06.820 Tamara Leach already did 49 days in prison without bail for mischief.
00:26:12.760 This is an outrage.
00:26:14.040 Rebel News has covered this from the beginning.
00:26:17.000 We were there.
00:26:18.920 And we will continue to cover this travesty of a mockery of a sham, as Woody Allen would say.
00:26:24.120 And we'll continue to crowdfund for Tamara Leach as well.
00:26:28.720 And we'll crowdfund our own journalism.
00:26:30.600 As you know, we have not missed a single day of the trial.
00:26:34.020 And I'll be back in Ottawa on Wednesday and Thursday.
00:26:36.540 If you're in Ottawa, I'll see you in the court.
00:26:38.220 You know what I do.
00:26:38.980 I go into court and I live tweet as fast as my fingers can fly.
00:26:43.260 But I just wanted to show you the judicial priorities of the government of Ontario.
00:26:48.760 Not stopping the Hamas hate marches that block more streets than anything the truckers did.
00:26:54.980 Do you remember that video a few weeks ago of the Hamas hate march blocking an ambulance?
00:27:01.440 Here's a refresher.
00:27:02.540 There are no charges of mischief for them, but the truckers keep lanes open and there's mischief charges.
00:27:10.800 There's no violent crime with the truckers.
00:27:13.660 There's violent crime every day with the Hamas protesters.
00:27:17.620 Absolutely outrageous.
00:27:19.700 We'll be there.
00:27:20.460 And if you want to support us, go to TamaraTrial.com.
00:27:24.880 I've got a crazy story for you today.
00:27:35.900 It's published by True North in Juneau News by Melanie Bennett.
00:27:41.080 I just got to read you this headline, then we'll talk to Melanie in a second.
00:27:43.880 The headline is, exclusive, New Ethics Code Tells Nurses to Denounce White European Medicine.
00:27:56.120 The Canadian Nurses Association 2025 Code of Ethics of Nurses denounces what it calls the
00:28:01.980 White European Centric Foundations of Modern Medicine.
00:28:07.580 Now, everybody knows that my health regime, which gives you this impressive physical specimen
00:28:12.220 in front of you, relies on traditional methods, including a little bit of voodoo and eating
00:28:18.200 my feelings.
00:28:19.520 Apparently, that is superior to Western European medicine.
00:28:24.240 I'm joking around.
00:28:25.820 Joining me now is Melanie Bennett.
00:28:28.100 Hey, great to see you.
00:28:29.340 Is this published?
00:28:30.700 Like, this isn't a draft or a discussion document, is it?
00:28:34.900 This is the real deal?
00:28:36.860 Yes, this was released mid to late last week, so it's brand new.
00:28:41.320 Um, probably many nurses haven't even read it yet.
00:28:45.520 It is published.
00:28:46.740 This is their document.
00:28:48.080 Um, it's very, very activist orientated.
00:28:51.840 When I, when I read it, I was quite surprised because what I wanted to know is if this activist
00:28:58.500 element was new for 2025 or whether it was always, it was always there.
00:29:04.780 It's just a sort of a new iteration of, of this sort of progressive leftist language.
00:29:08.920 And, um, I was advised that, no, it's pretty new.
00:29:12.400 You know, I made some dumb jokes about voodoo and, and things like that, but it is one of
00:29:17.940 the great developments of civilization that we have extended life expectancy, which used
00:29:23.380 to be for the vast majority of humankind.
00:29:26.300 You know, you'd be lucky to live to 30.
00:29:29.400 And I mean, just think of life without modern dentistry.
00:29:32.620 I mean, I don't care if it's Eurocentric or, or where it's from.
00:29:36.760 There is an objective scientific medicine.
00:29:38.800 Now, I think that was stressed out during the pandemic when we were given politicized
00:29:43.380 medicine.
00:29:43.860 But I think on the whole, everyone would acknowledge that scientific medicine is what we want.
00:29:50.760 And the race of any researcher who discovered penicillin or the race of people who discovered
00:29:56.760 insulin, it's irrelevant.
00:29:58.780 But the nurses think that's quite important, don't they?
00:30:02.360 Well, certainly the Canadian Nurses Association think it's very important.
00:30:06.140 And they specifically, specifically call or points to truth and reconciliation as the
00:30:12.520 reason that they're taking this approach.
00:30:14.720 So they have, the document has values, you know, a certain set of sections called values.
00:30:20.800 And one of those sections is called promoting social justice.
00:30:23.500 And another whole section is about indigenous ways of knowing and so on and so forth.
00:30:27.920 And my understanding of that, this is new in 2025.
00:30:30.960 So I'll give you an example, furthering this indigenous ways of knowing.
00:30:35.740 In another section, it says that systemic changes to health institutions on the importance
00:30:40.800 of integrating indigenous knowledge into clinical practice.
00:30:43.560 So they're saying, we need to start incorporating indigenous knowledge into the clinical care that
00:30:48.060 you would receive from a nurse, like that would be their ethical duty to do that.
00:30:52.160 And also to integrate it into research, what they call indigenous perspectives within research.
00:30:58.540 So I don't know, they don't really provide a lot of detail.
00:31:03.680 They're just saying that this has to be done for truth and reconciliation.
00:31:07.060 Yeah, I don't even understand it.
00:31:08.500 I have your essay here, and I would encourage anyone to go to junonews.com to check it out.
00:31:13.240 You show an image from the actual guide.
00:31:16.420 Let me just read paragraph 5.3.4.
00:31:19.860 Sounds like there's hundreds of little political nudges.
00:31:22.740 This one says that nurses promote planetary health.
00:31:27.420 You know, I'm more interested in my own health than planetary health.
00:31:30.600 Thank you very little.
00:31:31.720 As essential to the global health and well-being of all living and non-living elements of nature.
00:31:40.400 How can you have health for non-living elements?
00:31:45.560 I don't know if that...
00:31:46.980 I think health sort of...
00:31:48.560 We use the phrase biological sciences to mean life.
00:31:52.520 I don't know how you...
00:31:53.980 Like, what is the well-being of a rock?
00:31:55.380 Curiously, I didn't see all that much about gender and gender identity in there, other
00:32:01.300 than saying that you must affirm and respect gender identity.
00:32:04.680 But there was a lot about this planetary health, this interconnectedness of things.
00:32:09.000 And what really struck me, like you just mentioned, is the respect for living or the respect of
00:32:14.780 the interconnectedness of living and non-living things.
00:32:17.100 Because if I'm going to a nurse, maybe I have cancer treatment.
00:32:22.640 I don't know that I want nurses to be thinking about the ecology of rock formations while they're
00:32:29.660 caring for me.
00:32:31.140 So that was a bit of a concern to me as to what does this actually mean?
00:32:35.220 How are they going to...
00:32:36.300 You know, there's also a call in the code of ethics to report people who are not following
00:32:40.220 ethics.
00:32:41.220 So this then begs the question, are nurses going to be reported for not advocating for
00:32:47.280 climate change enough or for non-living things?
00:32:50.140 Yeah.
00:32:50.680 That non-living things is what gets me.
00:32:53.100 It feels sort of like a pagan or animist.
00:32:56.080 Like, I was joking about voodoo and whatnot.
00:32:58.900 But really, that's no joke.
00:33:01.140 That's exactly the kind of thing they're talking about here.
00:33:03.600 Let me just finish that line.
00:33:06.120 You stopped me at a perfect point because it's crazy that we care about non-living elements
00:33:12.400 of nature.
00:33:13.440 I just need, I don't know, I got a rash.
00:33:17.380 I need some ointment or I have a sore throat.
00:33:19.980 I need cough medicine.
00:33:21.380 I'm not interested in the health and well-being of rock formations.
00:33:24.420 But here, 5.3.4, learning about indigenous governance, knowledge, practices, and ways
00:33:34.840 of knowing in the protection of land, air, water, and ice.
00:33:40.020 Never seen ice put in a list before.
00:33:43.080 Plants and animals.
00:33:46.160 I mean, I feel like this wants to be some new age Bible replacement.
00:33:52.780 You know, I would trust an indigenous, like a racially First Nations person to give me
00:34:01.160 a cough medicine.
00:34:01.840 I would trust a white person, a black person, any race.
00:34:05.200 It's the objective, scientifically proven meds I want.
00:34:09.900 I'm not interested in indigenous governance, which I don't even know if the nurse, you know,
00:34:17.400 association knows.
00:34:18.740 This is, you know, who approved this?
00:34:22.640 And are people seriously, I don't know, maybe they're counting on no one reading it.
00:34:27.180 I did try to reach out to the Canadian Nurses Association.
00:34:30.160 I did also try to reach out to some nurses unions.
00:34:33.440 And I was unsuccessful in that.
00:34:35.380 I did manage to speak off the record to a nurse.
00:34:39.300 And she explained to me that this is normal for nurses to be advocates for certain things.
00:34:44.680 And I found that curious because I agree that if you're a nurse, you want to be compassionate
00:34:49.980 to many things.
00:34:50.840 But what I find curious about this document, it seems to be saying that political activism
00:34:55.160 is part of the moral code of a nurse.
00:34:57.400 It's not saying you can do this in your own spare time, but that you must do this as part
00:35:01.880 of your job.
00:35:02.820 Like I said, there's a whole section on social justice or advocating for social justice or
00:35:06.960 promoting social justice activism, rather.
00:35:09.460 You know, and that includes climate change.
00:35:11.020 It includes reporting people for microaggressions.
00:35:13.900 It includes a commitment to DEI.
00:35:16.040 All of the things that you might think about when you think about promoting social justice.
00:35:21.140 And it concerns me that that is now seen as a code of ethics for people in the medical
00:35:28.540 professions.
00:35:29.940 You know, I think of our friend, the nurse, Amy Hamm, who had never had a complaint against
00:35:37.520 her by all reports of her colleagues, was an excellent nurse.
00:35:40.640 And then one day she made a comment about J.K.
00:35:43.340 Rowling.
00:35:43.960 And it was simply, I heart J.K.
00:35:46.700 Rowling.
00:35:46.980 It was a billboard out there in Vancouver.
00:35:48.540 And she has been persecuted and prosecuted and convicted and drummed out of the profession
00:35:53.340 precisely by nurses referring to codes of conduct like this.
00:35:57.460 Again, touches on absolutely nothing she has to do.
00:36:00.560 So I think it's this.
00:36:01.680 I think it's, you know, where the more corrupt the society, the more the laws or as Lavrenti
00:36:09.020 Beria used to say, show me the man, I'll find you the crime.
00:36:11.660 Here's what I mean by that, Melanie.
00:36:14.100 I think this document makes everybody guilty because everybody's guilty of something because
00:36:21.680 this is so vague and weird.
00:36:23.080 Like, you now have to, quote, adopt a planetary health lens informed by Indigenous knowledge
00:36:30.260 of the interconnectedness of people with the natural world.
00:36:34.440 I don't know what that means.
00:36:36.180 You have to be informed about the disproportionate impact that climate change and other environmental
00:36:42.000 changes have on distinct populations such as Indigenous communities, women, people with
00:36:49.200 like it's, Melanie, my theory is that this would convict anyone because it's such a vague,
00:36:57.840 meaningless stew of cliches.
00:37:00.640 So it sits out there like a trap.
00:37:03.420 And then anyone the nurses, the official nurses want to get rid of, they just say, oh, we got
00:37:09.820 10 or 20 things that everyone has violated.
00:37:12.940 Let's just, so everyone's guilty.
00:37:14.680 It's just who's prosecuted.
00:37:16.440 Everyone's guilty.
00:37:17.520 It's just who's ejected.
00:37:19.520 I've never seen such a loosey-goosey mishmash as this, and none of it has anything to do
00:37:25.480 with nursing.
00:37:26.660 Well, you mentioned Amy Hamm, and within the social justice section, it does say that they
00:37:31.840 have to refrain from acting in a way that would cause harm.
00:37:35.620 But as we know, the causing harm is ill-defined.
00:37:39.500 And so I think you would be right on that.
00:37:41.060 And another section says it's a nurse's ethical duty to not engage in misinformation and
00:37:49.120 disinformation, but also report on these things.
00:37:51.400 But again, we've seen over time what is considered misinformation and disinformation and how many
00:37:56.220 nurses during COVID maybe were participating in that.
00:38:00.140 Maybe that would be seen differently depending on what side of the debate that you fall on.
00:38:06.460 And so it does create a trap, especially when you have a duty to report on ethical violations.
00:38:11.520 You know, I've studied the word misinformation and disinformation for a long time, and I have
00:38:17.880 concluded that it has a very simple meaning.
00:38:20.440 You don't have to get a fancy Oxford Dictionary definition.
00:38:25.000 Misinformation and disinformation is simply what you call ideas you disagree with.
00:38:29.100 It's a fancy, fake, scholarly, pseudoscience way of saying, oh, that person has a different
00:38:37.600 set of opinions, instead of debating it or arguing it or reconciling it.
00:38:42.340 I'm going to swallow it all up by saying that's disinformation motivated by malice.
00:38:47.740 Of course, I don't have to debate disinformation.
00:38:50.180 That's a pack of lies.
00:38:51.780 Misinformation and disinformation is simply what you call someone else's ideas you don't like.
00:38:57.240 And they might say the same about you.
00:38:59.100 There's no real meaning to it other than thought crime.
00:39:03.920 That's what it is.
00:39:05.180 No, I completely agree.
00:39:06.280 I felt reading this document that it was so loosely, these things were so loosely defined.
00:39:10.700 I mean, they do provide a glossary, but it's kind of loosely defined.
00:39:13.620 I mean, speaking of defining things, they even changed the meaning of family again.
00:39:16.540 So we see another, you know, redefinition of family that because some people who happen
00:39:22.760 to be gay, for example, or part of the LGBT community may have had difficulties with their
00:39:27.440 own families at some point in their lives.
00:39:29.400 And then the whole family, the whole idea of family has to be redefined as in just anyone
00:39:34.280 that's close to an individual.
00:39:36.380 And these things do concern me.
00:39:38.260 It does concern me that that is being imposed upon professionals through these bodies.
00:39:44.100 And it'd be curious to see if anyone brings any challenges forward to these sorts of things.
00:39:49.300 You know, I just want to quote one paragraph from your essay in which you cite this new
00:39:55.220 definition of the family.
00:39:56.260 And again, what this has to do with nursing, I don't know.
00:39:58.960 I think that a nurse would probably meet anyone of any race, any sexuality and treat them like
00:40:07.600 I think that's part of the ethics of the medical profession is you take a patient, you don't ask what
00:40:13.100 their politics are.
00:40:13.960 You don't ask about it.
00:40:15.160 And yet the opposite is happening here.
00:40:16.920 You're being forced to focus on that.
00:40:18.320 Let me cite what you report.
00:40:21.140 Family, any person who plays a significant role in an individual's life, including people
00:40:28.380 not legally related to the individual.
00:40:31.320 Well, that's just simply not true.
00:40:33.240 That's just not true.
00:40:34.980 Members of the family include parents, siblings, spouses, domestic partners, and both different
00:40:40.140 sex and same sex significant others.
00:40:43.600 And I'm not sure exactly what they mean.
00:40:45.140 The term domestic partners, blah, blah, blah.
00:40:47.620 But I think the key here is they're basically saying it means anything, even if you have
00:40:53.460 no legal tenure.
00:40:55.360 And that actually can be, you know, you can see some bad ideas that might stow away in
00:41:02.700 there.
00:41:03.000 Who gets to make end of life decisions?
00:41:05.160 If someone's in a coma, who makes life or death decisions, decisions about certain operations,
00:41:11.500 if the person in question is incapacitated?
00:41:16.060 You know, to give that to someone who's simply an important part of your life, that is upending
00:41:21.100 centuries of custom and tradition.
00:41:24.200 And this is crazy.
00:41:26.460 Who wrote it?
00:41:28.860 Other than it was the Canadian Nurses Association, I couldn't tell you who wrote it.
00:41:32.620 It does feel like it was written with some activists with the CNA in conjecture with.
00:41:39.900 But speaking of that family, further down, it talks about kin, right?
00:41:44.060 So it does elaborate on, basically, it does kind of mean just anybody who's close to the
00:41:48.840 individual.
00:41:49.380 But when I read it, I did also think, like you do, who is this actually, who do they mean?
00:41:54.740 And what are the legal consequences or ramifications of expanding that definition?
00:42:00.040 You know, maybe we're talking about minors.
00:42:02.420 Maybe we're talking about mature minors, for example.
00:42:05.400 Or like you say, end of life care, maybe who's signing the documents.
00:42:08.740 And none of this is really discussed.
00:42:10.140 And maybe they don't discuss it in a document like this code.
00:42:12.920 But it certainly does raise a lot of questions.
00:42:15.380 And I think if you're a nurse, and you haven't read your code of ethics, I think you should
00:42:19.340 go have a read and possibly post and tell us what you think about it.
00:42:23.900 Yeah.
00:42:24.300 You know, one of the things we've been focused on over the last year is the new euphemism
00:42:30.020 for doctor-assisted suicide called MAID, Medical Assistance in Dying, which is every
00:42:36.240 few years they come up with a new term.
00:42:37.780 Because the other ones are being, well, blemished with what they're real.
00:42:44.120 So they have to keep on throwing it off and adopting a new nickname until that one's lost
00:42:49.660 its appeal as well.
00:42:52.480 If you are allowing non-family members to make decisions, let me read that kinship thing
00:42:57.180 you mentioned.
00:42:57.740 Kinship, or the extended family network, are terms that are important to Indigenous peoples
00:43:03.320 as they go beyond the traditional definition of family.
00:43:06.060 Kinship systems help to maintain traditional ways of life, assure the care and responsibility
00:43:11.560 for the elderly and young, and determine the sharing of work and the distribution of food.
00:43:18.240 What are we talking about here again?
00:43:20.900 But I think this is the MAID aspect.
00:43:24.360 Oh, I'm not a family member.
00:43:26.300 I have no legal standing here.
00:43:28.020 But I'm part of the family network, you see.
00:43:30.640 And according to the nurse's guide, I help to determine, assure the care of the elderly.
00:43:39.880 And they call MAID care these days.
00:43:42.640 I think that only trouble can come for vagueness.
00:43:45.740 You know, there's a saying in the law that a contract can be void for vagueness.
00:43:51.120 Or that, you know, there's a variety of legal maxims about poorly drafted laws, poorly drafted contracts.
00:44:01.620 They can be void because of the uncertainty.
00:44:05.660 This builds uncertainty.
00:44:07.640 No one knows what the heck it means, because frankly, it can mean whatever they want it to mean.
00:44:12.300 And that is a useful tool for tyranny and totalitarianism.
00:44:16.160 That is not a useful tool for nurses to read and say, OK, now I know what to do.
00:44:21.220 This is terrible.
00:44:23.220 And I'm so glad you wrote about it.
00:44:25.800 Well, I will say this, that you mentioned MAID.
00:44:28.700 I was relieved to see that actually they do provide a mechanism for maybe nurses that have a moral objection to MAID.
00:44:38.120 They're aware that some people don't agree with it.
00:44:40.000 And they've created a system that you can effectively recuse yourself from the care.
00:44:44.720 You just have to keep providing care until the point that you're replaced with somebody else.
00:44:49.320 So there's a system in place to report that, OK, I'm not really comfortable with this and you need to find someone else.
00:44:54.420 But it doesn't seem that there's any kind of similar process for much of the other activist framings in this document.
00:45:02.080 Like if you don't believe in indigenous ways of knowing, there's no way out of that.
00:45:05.700 Or if you don't believe in this concept of microaggressions or some of the theoretical framework around, say, critical race theory, for example, like you can't recuse yourself out of that.
00:45:14.680 That is seen as a moral duty and that you must carry on doing that anyway to be to be a nurse.
00:45:19.480 But at least with MAID, they have created a pathway for people to to be able to say, I'm not comfortable with this.
00:45:26.280 But I'm very glad you told me that.
00:45:28.920 And that's of some relief to me.
00:45:31.240 You know, we've seen cases recently of public officials being censured or suspended for not saying a land declaration, for not shaking the hands of a drag queen who was brought in to a workplace.
00:45:44.820 So there are many conscientious objectors who would be opposed to a great variety of the political orders commanded here.
00:45:53.160 And we saw how that happens.
00:45:54.440 We saw that during the pandemic, that people who, for religious reasons, didn't want to get the shot, they were road roughshod over.
00:46:01.320 Well, I'm so glad you published this.
00:46:03.220 And it's a pleasure to meet you, Melanie.
00:46:04.640 And I hope when you have other exciting and concerning news like this, you'll bring it to us and we can talk about it with you to our viewers.
00:46:15.120 I would love to.
00:46:15.720 Thank you for having me.
00:46:16.640 Right on.
00:46:17.180 Our pleasure.
00:46:17.780 There you have it.
00:46:18.380 Melanie Bennett with True North and Juno News.
00:46:22.180 Stay with us.
00:46:23.360 More ahead.
00:46:32.180 Hey, welcome back.
00:46:33.320 Your letters to me.
00:46:35.980 On the show this past Friday, Bonnie Swan commented, how about giving Canadians that can't afford health care the care they need?
00:46:44.820 You know, yesterday, we had a bit of a medical worry.
00:46:49.520 I looked up the waiting time at Sunnybrook Hospital in Toronto.
00:46:54.520 Do it for your own hospital anywhere in the country.
00:46:56.540 Seven hours and 45 minute waiting time in the emergency room.
00:47:03.200 Seven hours and 45 minutes.
00:47:05.600 I laugh about that.
00:47:07.000 Not seven hours and 30 minutes.
00:47:08.800 Not eight hours.
00:47:09.620 They're so precise, aren't they?
00:47:11.000 That's the state of health care.
00:47:13.140 And now Mark Carney wants to bring in thousands of other people's grandparents to get in line, too.
00:47:18.960 Not to help pay the bills, but to get the fruits of people who've been paying the bills their whole lives.
00:47:25.820 Peter Renshaw commented, the liberals under Mark Carney are the Lucys, who once again yank the football from under the Canadian people.
00:47:34.120 Yeah, every once in a while you see a headline that the liberals are going to crack down on immigration.
00:47:39.640 And maybe for a second you believe it.
00:47:41.960 Never believe it.
00:47:42.900 Listen, this is how they plan to have a long-term perpetual victory.
00:47:46.960 Immigration.
00:47:47.400 Finally, Anthony Salotti commented, we're Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Keyload.
00:47:53.860 Well, I know enough about the NATO alphabet to know what that spells.
00:47:58.500 You're right.
00:47:59.260 But listen, the best time to fix this was 10 years ago.
00:48:02.960 The second best time is right now.
00:48:05.480 Let's try and keep fighting for freedom.
00:48:07.600 That's our show for today.
00:48:08.920 Until next time, on behalf of everyone here at Rebel News, to you at home, good night.
00:48:13.840 And you keep fighting for freedom, too.
00:48:17.400 We'll see you next time.