Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ The first tiny court case to go towards freedom, not lockdown mania

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today, I take you through a court case, which is the first piece of common

00:00:04.800 sense I've seen from any judge in Canada on the lockdown and the pandemics and the

00:00:08.720 vaccine mandates. First I've seen in two years. It's a very minor ruling. It's a family court

00:00:14.060 ruling. Obviously, it's not minor to that family. But by minor, I mean it doesn't change the world

00:00:20.280 for millions or tens of millions of us. But it is the first little ray of hope of sanity returning

00:00:25.760 to our checks and balances in this country. I'll read about half the ruling to you. That's

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00:01:13.160 Tonight, the first tiny court case to go towards freedom, not lockdown mania. It's February 25th,

00:01:20.780 and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:24.720 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:28.220 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:32.300 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody

00:01:37.180 right to do so.

00:01:42.880 I saw this court ruling this week. It's not a constitutional case. It's not a challenge to

00:01:49.480 the lockdowns. It's not a grievance against an employer forcing a vaccine mandate on a union.

00:01:55.180 It's the most ordinary dreary court case there is. Family law, which is code for divorce court.

00:02:01.520 And of course, the worst divorce proceedings are those involving kids.

00:02:06.900 Just misery all around. Misery where only the lawyers profit.

00:02:10.660 And misery attracts misery. Imagine how many divorce cases involving children have been weaponized

00:02:19.480 by the lockdowns. Masks, vaccine shots, so much more to argue about.

00:02:25.240 The most bitter disagreements have been made worse because of the strife we're in.

00:02:30.140 And so it was in this case called JN versus CG. Those are the initials of the parents kept anonymous

00:02:37.880 for the sake of the kids. Here's a court ruling. It was a case heard exactly a week ago, and the

00:02:45.560 ruling was issued on Tuesday, which is pretty quick turnaround. It was written by Justice Alex

00:02:51.340 Pazaratz, the Ontario Superior Court. I'm going to read from it at length because the judge writes

00:03:00.080 in a way that I would rather quote directly, rather than to summarize and restate. Most judges don't

00:03:06.780 write like this judge. You'll see what I mean. Let me start literally with the first sentence.

00:03:14.140 When did it become illegal to ask questions, especially in the courtroom? And when did it become

00:03:20.100 unfashionable for judges to receive answers, especially when children's lives were at stake?

00:03:25.640 How do we lower our guard and let the words unacceptable beliefs get paired together?

00:03:32.840 You know who said that? That's what Justin Trudeau said the other day. I don't know if you recognize

00:03:36.780 this.

00:03:37.260 The way through this pandemic is by getting everyone vaccinated. And the overwhelming majority,

00:03:47.200 close to 90 percent of Canadians have done exactly that. The small fringe minority of people who

00:03:58.340 are on their way to Ottawa or who are holding unacceptable views that they are expressing do not represent

00:04:09.220 the views of Canadians who have been there for each other, who know that following the science

00:04:15.640 and stepping up to protect each other is the best way to continue to ensure our freedoms,

00:04:22.500 our rights, our values as a country.

00:04:25.220 In a democracy on the scales of justice, should judges sit back as the concept of judicial notice

00:04:32.300 gets hijacked from a rule of evidence to a substitute for evidence? And is, this is my favorite part,

00:04:39.600 is misinformation even a real word? Or has it become a crass, self-serving tool to preempt scrutiny

00:04:46.080 and discredit your opponent, to delegitimize questions and strategically avoid giving answers?

00:04:51.700 Blanket denials are almost never acceptable in our adversarial system. Each party always has the honest

00:04:57.580 onus to prove their case, and yet misinformation has crept into court lexicon, a childish but sinister

00:05:03.700 way of saying, you're so wrong, I don't even have to explain why you're wrong. It's an incredible

00:05:10.280 ruin, would you agree? What does any of this have to do with family loss? Sadly, these days,

00:05:16.140 it has everything to do with family court. Because when society demonizes and punishes anyone who disagrees

00:05:23.300 or even dares to ask really important questions, the resulting polarization, disrespect, and simmering

00:05:29.120 anger can have devastating consequences for the mothers, fathers, and children I deal with on a

00:05:34.420 daily basis. It's becoming harder for family court judges to turn enemies into friends when governments

00:05:41.020 are so recklessly turning friends into enemies. Governments are. The motion before me is a typical

00:05:48.500 and frightening example of how far we are drifting from Cher's values. Wow. Now I'm going to keep

00:05:57.420 reading if you don't mind. There's so much here, I don't want to miss a word. I can't read you the

00:06:01.200 whole ruling. So now the judge summarized the case. The father wants two children ages 12 and 10 to

00:06:07.560 receive COVID vaccinations. The mother is opposed. Now answer honestly. Did the previous paragraph give

00:06:14.560 you enough information to form an opinion about how this case should turn out? It's a clever question

00:06:20.320 from the judge, isn't it? You don't normally see clever questions in court rulings. Judges try to

00:06:24.500 give clever answers, but he's making a point, I think. We're all weary. We all wish COVID would just

00:06:31.400 go away, but pandemic fatigue is no excuse for shortcuts and lowering our standards. We all have

00:06:36.820 to guard against the unconscious bias of thinking, why won't these people just do what the government

00:06:41.260 tells them to do? I can't believe this guy's a judge. I'm surprised he wasn't thrown off the bench

00:06:47.960 yet. We have to decide on the basis of the best interests of each particular child in each particular

00:06:54.700 fact situation. We have to rely on and insist upon evidence. So I'm going to skip ahead. Just FYI,

00:07:02.200 the family came to some agreement last fall about a few things and one of the kids decided to get

00:07:07.400 vaxxed and both parents agreed to it. But the littler kids, well, the mom was skeptical in part

00:07:12.300 because they both got the virus and recovered from it naturally. So they have natural immunity. Let me

00:07:17.020 read a little bit more from the ruling. Soon after the party signed minutes in October 2021, the older

00:07:24.800 child, CBG, elected to be vaccinated. Both parents supported his decision. He's had two shots and the

00:07:31.460 parents agree he has exhibited no adverse effects. The mother insists the father is misrepresenting

00:07:37.220 her position. She's not opposed to vaccines. She's offended by the pejorative term anti-vaxxers. 1.00

00:07:43.000 She has always ensured that the three children received all of their regular immunizations.

00:07:47.280 She says she's open-minded to vaccinating both the younger children if safety concerns can be better

00:07:51.520 addressed. But she says her extensive research has left her with well-founded concerns of the potential

00:07:56.940 benefit of the current COVID vaccines for LAG and MDG, those are two younger kids, is outweighed by the

00:08:04.340 serious potential risks. She says there are too many unknowns and she worries that once children are

00:08:09.180 vaxxed, they can't be unvaxxed. The mother notes that both children have already had COVID with minimal

00:08:16.420 symptoms and they have recovered completely. She refers to medical research which says that since they have

00:08:22.060 already recovered from COVID, the children now have greater protection from future infection. Well, we

00:08:28.340 know that's true. Both parents agree, LAG and MDG, those are the kids, are in excellent health with no

00:08:34.020 special medical needs or vulnerabilities. Neither parent provided any evidence from a medical profession

00:08:39.300 about any potential positive or negative considerations with respect to these children receiving COVID vaccines.

00:08:46.320 The mother's evidence focused entirely on the medical and scientific issues.

00:08:50.400 Okay. Now here is the part of the ruling that I think is very interesting, at least to me.

00:08:57.680 In contrast, the father focused extensively on labeling and discrediting the mother as a person in a

00:09:03.600 dismissive attempt to argue that her views aren't worthy of consideration. This odious trend is rapidly

00:09:10.520 corrupting modern social discourse. Ridicule and stigmatize your opponent as a person rather than dealing with the

00:09:16.280 ideas they want to talk about. Seems to be working for politicians, but is this really something we want to

00:09:23.620 tolerate in a court system where potential conduct and beliefs are irrelevant except as the impact on the

00:09:28.960 parent's ability to meet the needs of a child? Let's talk about cancel culture. For example, the father's affidavits

00:09:36.840 included the following. I am aware that the applicant has political affiliations with the People's Party of Canada.

00:09:42.840 The applicant is entitled to her personal beliefs and ideologies, but I am very fearful that it is having a direct negative

00:09:48.900 impact on the children, especially when it comes to this vaccine issue. I searched the applicant's recent Facebook

00:09:54.980 postings and was alarmed to see just how involved the applicant is at perpetuating COVID-related conspiracy theories and

00:10:02.060 vaccine hesitancy. He attached a collection of some of the applicant's Facebook postings, which I believe are

00:10:07.900 indicative of her personal views. The applicant is a self-proclaimed PPC founding member. In my opinion, she is openly

00:10:14.860 promoting very dangerous beliefs. Surely these thoughts and feelings are also being promoted in her household, which is

00:10:21.080 where LEG and MDG primarily reside. I looked up what the PPC stance is on the COVID-19 vaccine and was not surprised to

00:10:28.820 read under its website's facts section that lockdowns, mask mandates, school closures, and other

00:10:34.180 authoritarian and sanitary measures have not had any noticeable effect on the course of the pandemic.

00:10:40.360 Unfortunately, no facts are actually provided. He attached a copy of the PPC's COVID policy taken from its

00:10:46.080 website. I'm alarmed that the children are being exposed to the applicant's unsupportive views on the issue of the

00:10:52.300 pandemic, and in particular, the efficacy of the available and government-recommended vaccines.

00:10:58.680 The applicant's anti-vaccination stance is much more severe than that of a regular concerned parent who is

00:11:06.080 unsure whether or not she wants the children to receive a relatively new vaccine. Rather, the applicant is

00:11:11.620 leading the charge, attending anti-vaccine rallies, and refusing to follow COVID protocols.

00:11:17.180 He attaches a Facebook posting of a mother not wearing a mask in a crowd of 10,000 people at a

00:11:23.940 rally. He makes other references to the mother's Facebook account and attaches numerous pictures

00:11:28.960 of her social media pages. He attaches photographs of PPC their Maxime Bernier addressing an audience.

00:11:35.260 Well, that ought to decide any divorce case right there, if you have a picture of Maxime Bernier.

00:11:40.140 Makes sense to me. So a political attack on his ex-wife, based on her political beliefs,

00:11:47.800 disagreeing with his political beliefs. So we hear, maybe he doesn't agree, he's just using it as a

00:11:52.700 weapon. And here's what the judge said. Where to begin? A, how is any of this relevant? B, have we

00:12:02.860 reached a stage where parental rights are going to be decided based on what political party you belong to?

00:12:06.700 Yeah, I think we're there already, judge. C, is being seen with Maxime Bernier, or anyone for that

00:12:13.300 matter, the kiss of death, as far as your court case is concerned? Yeah, I think we're at that

00:12:18.680 point, judge. D, can you simply utter the words conspiracy theorist and do a mic drop? E, if you

00:12:26.080 allege that someone is openly promoting very dangerous beliefs, shouldn't you provide a few

00:12:30.120 details? A bit of proof, maybe? F, and if you presume that a parent believes things they shouldn't

00:12:35.660 believe, can you go one step further and also presume that the parent must be poisoning their

00:12:40.260 children's minds with these horrible, unspecified ideas? Surely these thoughts and feelings are also

00:12:45.140 being promoted in her household. G, the father criticizes the mother for doing something she

00:12:49.400 didn't say. He presumes she doubts the effectiveness of school closures and then criticizes her for

00:12:54.940 providing no evidence. But on this motion, she didn't raise the issue. And back in 2020, she was the

00:13:00.200 one who wanted to keep the children out of school, and he fought unsuccessfully for them

00:13:04.180 to attend. As with other allegations, the father provides no evidence of his own and fails to

00:13:09.120 address the fact that vigorous community debate led to school closures being abandoned.

00:13:14.980 H, how far are we willing to take guilt by association? If you visit a website, read a book,

00:13:19.700 or attend a meeting, are you permanently tarnished by something someone else wrote or said? At what point

00:13:24.860 do the thought police move in? Oh, judge, we're there. We're there a long time ago.

00:13:30.900 Aye, and really, how fine is the line between vaccine hesitancy and not taking any chances with

00:13:36.080 your kid? All the case law says judges have to act with the utmost caution and consider all

00:13:41.940 relevant evidence in determining the best interest of the child. How can we then impose a lesser

00:13:45.980 standard on a demonstrably excellent parent? It is of little consequence that an individual litigant 0.91

00:13:53.240 chooses to advance such dubious and offensive arguments. Even though the father may not admit

00:13:58.620 it, this is still a free country, and people can say what they want, including him. I'm not going to

00:14:03.800 read the whole thing. That would be just ridiculous, but it really is a riveting discussion. The judge

00:14:10.620 then discusses other cases where children were being fought over by parents with different points

00:14:15.680 of view on the vaccine in divorce court. And in some of those cases, the kids were forced against

00:14:19.980 their own will to have the jab. How terrible is that? Here's what this judge had to say about that.

00:14:25.500 To simplify matters, the mother does not deny the authenticity or integrity of the website

00:14:31.000 information submitted by the father. It's mostly statements by the Government of Canada and the

00:14:36.020 Canadian Pediatric Society recommending that children should receive COVID vaccinations. These are the same

00:14:41.960 types of downloads which courts have considered in other recent COVID vaccine cases. The mother doesn't

00:14:47.400 deny that these are reputable organizations, nor does she deny the statements and information

00:14:52.280 have been prepared by qualified persons in a responsible professional manner. She doesn't

00:14:57.300 deny that the father has accurately presented one side of the story. All she asks is that the court

00:15:01.740 equally consider the other side of the story, that the court allow both sides of the story to be

00:15:06.380 equally presented, tested, and considered before making an irreversible decision for her children.

00:15:11.700 Evidence on both sides of the story. We're in deep trouble if those become antiquated concepts.

00:15:18.520 Yeah, judge. Yeah, we are. In almost all cases with COVID vaccinations have been ordered,

00:15:25.860 the court has made a finding that on the face of it, the internet materials presented by the objecting

00:15:30.820 parent have been grossly deficient, unreliable, and at times dubious. This lack of an equally credible

00:15:37.000 counterpoint to government recommendations may well have been determinative in those earlier

00:15:41.400 cases. In other words, the government, the courts choose who to believe or not, but here this judge

00:15:47.460 says, what if the objecting parents presents evidence which potentially raises some serious

00:15:52.380 questions or doubts about the necessity, benefits, or potential harm of COVID vaccine for children?

00:15:59.160 Clearly, we shouldn't be too quick to embrace the naysayers, but should we banish them without hearing

00:16:05.160 from them? Should we stifle and forbid a reasonable opportunity to present and test evidence and make

00:16:10.720 submissions? There are obvious public policy reasons to avoid recklessly undermining confidence in

00:16:16.500 public health measures, but that has to be weighed against our unbridled obligation to leave no stone

00:16:21.600 unturned when it comes to protecting children. For example, the mother presented a detailed fact sheet

00:16:27.760 from Pfizer. This isn't one of the fringe websites dismissed in the other cases. It's Pfizer, the people

00:16:34.660 who make the vaccine. And one of the things the judges leans on is the authoritativeness of the cases

00:16:41.560 relied on by the mom. I'll read some more. Several of the earlier decisions requiring children to be

00:16:49.260 vaccinated have noted that the evidence presented by the objecting parent was not reliable because the

00:16:54.540 author's credentials were either non-established or non-existent. But in this case, none of the materials

00:16:59.720 presented by the mother are from fringe organizations or dubious authors. To the contrary,

00:17:03.620 the mother quotes extensively from leaders in the medical and scientific community.

00:17:09.000 I thought the next point showed some humanity from the judge, which is very rare these days.

00:17:15.600 In a complex, important, and emotional case like this, it is important to remember

00:17:19.460 the court's mandate. I am not being asked to make a scientific determination. I'm being asked to make a

00:17:25.600 parenting determination. I'm not being asked to decide whether vaccines are good or bad. I am not being asked

00:17:31.620 to decide if either parent is good or bad. My task is to determine which parent is to have decision-making

00:17:37.280 authority over LEG and MDG, the kids, with respect to the very specific and narrow issue of COVID

00:17:42.700 vaccinations. Each parent has clearly identified how they would exercise such decision-making authority.

00:17:48.180 The judge gives the decision-making authority to the mom who had parenting roles post-divorce

00:17:56.120 anyways. Now, look at, so that's how the judge ruled. But look at the PS from the judge at the end.

00:18:03.400 Postscript. It's irrelevant to my decision and it's none of anyone's business, but I am fully vaccinated.

00:18:09.320 My choice. I mention this because I'm acutely aware of how polarized the world has become.

00:18:13.880 We should all return to discussing the issues rather than making presumptions about one another.

00:18:22.200 I read about half this ruling to you. I just thought it was interesting.

00:18:27.880 I don't think this will be overturned on appeal because family law is so fact-based and

00:18:31.980 I don't think the ruling here is so patently wrong that a higher court will overturn it. But I have to say

00:18:37.300 this is literally the first judge in Canada to consider a pandemic lockdown forced vaccine issue

00:18:44.360 and not join the hysterical screaming and denunciation of people who are dissident minorities.

00:18:51.100 Compare him to the judges who have, for example, thrown Pastor Arthur Pawlowski into prison,

00:18:55.800 who have banned him from even speaking in public in ways that contradict the government.

00:19:00.620 churches physically seized by police, people being fined tens of thousands of dollars for merely

00:19:06.880 disagreeing, millions of Canadians banned from flying or taking the train just for not being

00:19:12.320 vaxxed, even if they are naturally immune. Countless people being fired for the same reason.

00:19:19.520 I wonder if this judge will be overturned just for that reason, that he's insufficiently furious

00:19:25.360 and insufficiently intolerant of the mom who disagrees with the majority.

00:19:31.660 He probably wouldn't destroy businesses or seize bank accounts like the government has done.

00:19:37.440 Will he be able to hold on to his position as a judge? Will they kick him out as a judge?

00:19:41.340 It's happened before. I'm happy to see this case. It's too bad that it only applies to one family

00:19:48.600 and we don't even know who they are. But maybe it's a small sign that even our courts

00:19:54.480 are starting to realize that they've been part of an atrocious restriction on our civil liberties

00:20:01.460 for far too long. And maybe it's time for them to walk back from the abuses of the government.

00:20:07.680 I wonder if the Trucker Rebellion had anything to do with this.

00:20:13.940 Speaking of Trucker Rebellion, stay with us for more on the American Trucker Convoy. 0.54

00:20:24.480 I'm Jeremy Lofredo on assignment for Rebel News in Kingman, Arizona, where the U.S. Trucker Convoy

00:20:36.460 arrived last night. They departed 300 miles east of here in Atalanto, California and arrived around

00:20:41.680 sundown. They're set to leave Kingman, Arizona in about two hours. You can see the sun's coming up,

00:20:45.960 the truckers are waking up before their 300-mile stretch to New Mexico east.

00:20:49.680 All the trucks behind me are brand new. You can tell that the truckers have grown exponentially

00:20:55.180 since leaving California.

00:20:56.760 This grew overnight. I mean, there was half the trucks here last night, so there's a lot

00:21:00.280 of support. We're bigger on semis, we're bigger on campers, and we're bigger on cars.

00:21:04.280 As far as the convoy and how big it's gotten, I started in California. It's amazing. The amount

00:21:10.460 of support and people, I mean, you emotionally break down. I've done it two, three times, and

00:21:17.660 it's heart-wrenching.

00:21:19.780 We need to get rid of these mandates. People are getting fired. People can't get in the 0.69

00:21:23.880 hospitals. Nurses are getting fired. So many people's lives are in danger right now. So

00:21:29.180 basically, we need to raise the word and bring into fruition that our government needs to work

00:21:35.880 for us. We don't work for them.

00:21:36.900 Well, Rebel News covered the Canadian truckers' convoy better and more than anyone else. There

00:21:43.640 was one point in time we were in nine cities in Canada covering different aspects of the

00:21:48.980 convoy. We were embedded with it from almost its beginnings in Western Canada as it made

00:21:54.060 its way east. I believe that we helped tell an important story that was ignored at first

00:22:00.080 and then, frankly, mistold deliberately by the corporate media and the government who were

00:22:05.360 opposed to the convoy. Well, the Canadian convoy has more or less ended. It forced an issue

00:22:12.280 in which Justin Trudeau brought in a form of martial law, and I think it showed a lot of

00:22:17.080 weaknesses in Canada's checks and balances for democracy. But one of the things that

00:22:22.200 truckers in Canada did was inspire other trucker rebellions around the world, places as diverse

00:22:28.660 as the Netherlands, Israel, France, and now the United States, where a trucker convoy has

00:22:36.320 started in California and is deliberately making its way east to Washington, D.C. And I'm delighted

00:22:43.680 to say that we have a freelance reporter who is covering the American convoy with us, who started in

00:22:51.780 L.A., is now in New Mexico. His name is Jeremy Lafredo, and he joins us now via Skype along the side of the

00:23:00.880 highway. Jeremy, nice to have you. Thank you very much for taking up this important mission for us

00:23:05.800 at Rebel News. It's great to have you on board on this assignment. Thanks, Ezra.

00:23:11.120 So you're in New Mexico right now. Tell me how it started in California, because it felt a little

00:23:16.920 more organized than the Canadian one, which was pretty spontaneous. Tell us a little bit about the

00:23:23.120 American convoy. Sure. So it was planned about a week and a half in advance. We met in California,

00:23:31.380 and there was only about maybe 100 or so big rigs and a couple hundred cars. And now, three days

00:23:38.320 later, we're making our way 600 miles further than when we started in New Mexico. And it's grown

00:23:45.280 exponentially. There's hundreds of big rigs. There's hundreds of cars. It's growing by the day

00:23:50.620 and by the night, more people are showing up. Now, in Canada, it took a while for this thing to

00:23:56.960 become known. And soon, people started spontaneously coming to the side of the road or to overpasses to

00:24:04.220 cheer it on. I don't think that happened at first. It took a while for the story to be told, but it

00:24:10.120 really spread person to person. It wasn't really through the mainstream media. Has that phenomenon begun

00:24:16.720 in your American convoy yet? Do people know about it? Are they expecting it? Are they coming out to

00:24:23.300 wave it on or cheer it on at all? People definitely know about it. So we are, like I said, we're 600

00:24:29.780 miles from where we started, and not one overpass did not have supporters waving American flags,

00:24:35.780 waving Canadian flags, and waving that new flag that you might have seen, which is the American flag

00:24:39.780 combined with the Canadian flag on one flag, which was started, you know, everybody's cheering on

00:24:45.100 Canadians. Everyone's thanking Canadians for what they started. Isn't that interesting? You know

00:24:50.460 what? The idea that Canada would create a freedom movement that others, including in America, would

00:24:55.360 follow, that's got to be a novelty. I mean, I've never heard of that before. Normally, we're more

00:25:01.040 quiet, and if anything, we're followers rather than leaders when it comes to freedom. I'm delighted to

00:25:05.160 hear it. Now, one of the things in Canada was it, I think there was a class divide that was exposed by

00:25:12.280 it, because there are certain people who I think really love the lockdowns and love the

00:25:16.720 pandemic, and they've never lost a day's pay. Maybe they didn't work, but maybe they just

00:25:21.820 got paid anyways. Maybe they could work from the cottage or something via Zoom, whereas the working

00:25:27.300 class, I mean, truckers never stopped trucking. And in fact, not just big rig truckers, long distance

00:25:33.140 haulers, but even drivers within the city who were, you know, for DoorDash or Amazon, like those folks

00:25:39.740 didn't take a day off. And they often, especially in those early days when we didn't really know a

00:25:44.740 lot about the virus itself, they had to show courage. And I don't know, I think that suddenly

00:25:52.200 the pandemic has turned against these working class folks. Anyone who's in these big unions was forced

00:25:59.660 to be jabbed, even though it wasn't in the collective agreement. I just felt like, I don't know, about six

00:26:05.540 months ago, things really turned sour. And there was a classism. And I say this as a conservative

00:26:10.260 guy, I normally don't talk in the language of class, but it was hard not to notice it. And I felt

00:26:16.280 like this truckers' rebellion truly was a workers' rebellion. It felt like a general strike. I don't

00:26:22.760 know, what are your thoughts on that? Is there a working class nature to what's going on there

00:26:27.840 in America too? And how does that play into American politics? You'll have to educate us because

00:26:33.020 we're Canadians up here. Of course. So there's definitely, there's 100% a class divide in

00:26:39.260 who supports the truckers and who does not support the truckers. Most of the supporters on the

00:26:44.700 overpass today were not from Albuquerque, which is, you know, the biggest city in New Mexico. They

00:26:49.860 were from the rural parts of New Mexico. And they were waving their flags and they were cheering on

00:26:54.660 the convoy. And as we were getting our cameras ready, someone walked out of an office building and

00:26:58.820 said, what are all those people waving their flags about? What are they yelling about? And we told

00:27:01.820 them what it was about. It was about the convoy. The truckers are being fired if they don't get the

00:27:04.960 jab, et cetera, et cetera. And they kind of scoffed and they kept walking. And she was walking, you 0.85

00:27:10.160 know, she was wearing, you know, suit pants and she was walking out of an office building. And just

00:27:13.720 in that one interaction, you could see that you have these people who consider themselves progressive

00:27:18.220 liberals scoffing at those who are working class Americans with less money than them, most likely.

00:27:25.220 I saw some of that in Canada. I also saw an interesting thing is that in Canada, a lot of the

00:27:30.680 truckers are from minority background. For whatever reason, a lot of Canadian truckers

00:27:35.340 are Indo-Canadian, including Sikh truckers. There's also indigenous people, what in America 0.96

00:27:42.140 might be called Indians or what we call Métis. So there's a lot of truckers who are from a variety

00:27:48.580 of backgrounds. Now they were denounced by our prime minister that he called them racist and

00:27:53.020 misogynist. And he even used the word Nazi, which seemed very at odds with the mix of people.

00:27:59.200 Look, trucking is a real entry level trade or job. If you can get that commercial driver's

00:28:05.920 license, really, it's open to people of like, it really is a doorway into small business and

00:28:12.200 work for new Americans. I imagine that's how it, I think that's one of the reasons so many 1.00

00:28:16.500 new Canadians are in it. But they called them racist. Are they, is that, is that same demonization

00:28:23.660 afoot in America? You're in the Southwest. I'm guessing there's lots of people who are,

00:28:29.440 might be called Latino or other, other folks like that. Can you tell me the demographics of these

00:28:33.880 truckers? Sure. So we're in the Southwest of the United States. We're very close to Mexico and we're

00:28:40.500 also surrounded by different Indian reservations, Native American, Navajo tribe. And, you know, these

00:28:47.000 people, like anyone else, they, you know, at some point needed a job and they decided, you know,

00:28:51.920 I'm going to get into trucking. So, you know, yes, you definitely see some diversity in these

00:28:55.620 truckers and you see even more diversity in the people supporting the truckers.

00:29:00.720 We haven't seen any demonization from Joe Biden himself. He hasn't acknowledged the situation,

00:29:04.920 but from the mainstream media, the New York Times, the Washington Post, Buzzfeed, MSNBC,

00:29:09.780 they have all put out stories and then more stories on how these truckers have links to the

00:29:16.560 far right or extremists. They're all white, which is bad, of course. And, you know, it's completely, 0.89

00:29:24.460 completely different from, from the real story. If only they came out here and saw who the truckers

00:29:28.640 were, they would not turn on their cameras because they would be so embarrassed.

00:29:31.820 Well, one of our mottos at Rebel News is telling the other side of the story. And, and the best way to

00:29:37.640 do that is just flip on the camera. And one of the things we did in the Canadian Trucker Convoy

00:29:42.140 is we just sometimes did a live stream and that camera was on for three, four hours. And there

00:29:49.000 was, you know, there was commentary along the way, but I think people appreciated just seeing with their

00:29:53.020 own eyes what was happening that a lot of that happened in Ottawa. So I think just showing the

00:29:58.300 fact is a great service. So I'm really grateful to you for riding along because you're right. If,

00:30:03.800 if a pundit is giving commentary on the truckers from a studio in LA or a studio in Manhattan,

00:30:11.660 but they haven't seen with their own eyes, they're just, you know, retelling or rehearsing a false

00:30:18.420 fact. So it's important what you're doing on the ground to, to actually document who's there.

00:30:22.500 Now I got one last question for you. One of the things that, that worries me is that I know that

00:30:30.240 this trucker movement, I mentioned how it's spread around the world. It's become so symbolic and it

00:30:35.820 really is a kind of natural resistance to the pandemic lockdownism and the mandatory big pharma

00:30:44.260 vaccine. So it, it's a symbol and they want to smash the symbol. I remember a few years back,

00:30:49.340 they tried to demonize the yellow vest, the Gillet Jean movement out of France. And I think they want

00:30:56.100 to do the same here because it's such a powerful, authentic grassroots thing. So I'm worried that

00:31:02.440 there's going to be some false flag agents, provocateurs. And before you say, oh, Ezra,

00:31:07.520 you're just being paranoid. I know that the FBI in some very spectacular recent cases has done this sort

00:31:14.960 of thing. There were a half a dozen FBI agents who were actually, I know this sounds nuts.

00:31:19.900 They were, they were in a scheme to kidnap the democratic governor of Michigan, believe it or not.

00:31:25.260 And that thankfully unraveled before it happened. But, uh, I'm quite sure that there are people who

00:31:32.800 are being embedded with this trucker convoy with the goal of, you know, denormalizing them,

00:31:39.140 having them say something so discrediting that it redounds to the discredit of the whole group.

00:31:44.900 Have you detected anything like that? Or are you on alert for that? Because it wouldn't surprise me

00:31:49.440 if, and I'm not saying they're necessarily FBI, they might just be political operatives

00:31:53.420 who are trying to muck things up. Who knows, could even be the Lincoln project. They've done that

00:31:57.360 sort of thing before. Have you had any observations in those lines?

00:32:00.800 Well, I mean, you know, uh, agent provocateurs, uh, entrapment programs is the FBI's game. And,

00:32:08.520 you know, the, um, the white, uh, conservatives have now taken the place of, as the, you know,

00:32:16.880 terrorists, um, that was normally occupied by, you know, Middle Eastern people. So now that, 0.98

00:32:22.000 um, they've taken over this, this title, it's given, uh, federal law enforcement, uh, essentially,

00:32:26.880 um, the ability to go in and, uh, do anti-terror tactics, um, entrapment programs, et cetera,

00:32:35.220 et cetera. And obviously, um, this convoy is criticizing, um, you know, uh, big pharma and

00:32:41.120 the state. And, um, there's nothing more, uh, damaging, uh, than that right now, especially in

00:32:47.240 the middle of this, uh, COVID regime that we find ourselves in. So I, I definitely wouldn't be,

00:32:51.600 uh, surprised if, uh, something like that happened. And also, um, there's some,

00:32:56.000 not embedded in the convoy. There's someone going around, uh, not, um, not at all affiliated with

00:33:01.780 the convoy, giving quotes to the media as if they are affiliated with the convoy. Um, no one knows

00:33:06.900 which organization this person actually works for. Um, but they're saying, once we get to Washington,

00:33:11.580 we are going to strangle the federal government, um, you know, using violence. And, uh, the convoy

00:33:17.980 does not, does not, has never been about that. And they've said that multiple times is about peace.

00:33:22.420 We just, we just don't want to take this vaccine. We just don't want to get fired.

00:33:24.980 Um, so there's definitely people being embedded in the media and elsewhere that are supposed to

00:33:30.660 be discrediting this convoy. Yeah. I saw that. Uh, I think they used a snake analogy of like

00:33:36.020 strangling why I saw that even reported up here in Canada. So those planting those, uh, themes and

00:33:43.540 denormalizing and demonizing the trucker convoys happening down there. I can see it. Well, Jeremy,

00:33:48.880 we're so glad you're embedded there. I'll let you go. Cause I know you want to catch up to the rest of

00:33:52.740 the truckers. Great to have you on with this mission, this assignment, Jeremy Lafredo,

00:33:57.840 keep it up and we'll talk to you again soon. Thank you guys. All right. There you have it.

00:34:02.280 We're covering the U.S. convoy. Stay with us. More ahead.

00:34:17.720 Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me. Wish for freedom says, my guess is Ontario will shut down

00:34:23.160 Doug Ford. Ford is an expert of talking out of both sides of his mouth. The convoy for freedom

00:34:28.080 has exposed many so-called conservative politicians as nothing but tyrants. The convoy has brought all

00:34:32.900 the cockroaches out into the line. It's amazing, uh, the effects of this convoy. I mean, it really

00:34:39.100 is incredible how it has forced so many issues. And I think it, it's partly to the grassroots nature,

00:34:46.280 the authentic nature of it, and partly just the complete failure of any other institution for two

00:34:50.740 years. I think the best thing this trucker convoy has done is throw out Aaron O'Toole, which I think

00:34:57.640 has paved the way for Pierre Polyev to become the conservative party leader. I see there's some

00:35:02.140 sort of move to make Jean Chiré the party leader. Yeah, I don't think that's going anywhere, folks.

00:35:07.360 Um, but if that's all they do, if they replace Aaron O'Toole with Pierre Polyev,

00:35:11.200 I think the guy has a chance of winning and that could be the most, uh, important effect. I think it's

00:35:16.920 also hastened the ends of heavy lockdowns in most provinces. But I say again, the emergency legislation

00:35:24.720 is either in effect or still on the books in most provinces, in all provinces, in fact,

00:35:29.360 including Saskatchewan. So we're not out of this yet. We have to pull up the weed by its roots or

00:35:35.920 it'll grow back. Someone with a nickname, the cat came back says, if fascism ever comes to America,

00:35:42.400 it'll come in the form name of liberalism, Ronald Reagan. The same goes for Canada. Oh yeah. I mean,

00:35:48.180 it's hard. It's shocking when you think that the word liberal comes from the Latin word for freedom

00:35:54.020 and the freedoms that they absolutely bulldozed for their political interests are so gross.

00:36:01.020 Lawrence Johansson writes, it's incredible how the American media went nuts on Trudeau.

00:36:05.940 Nice to hear the truth for a change. Well, I should tell you, you're selecting conservative media,

00:36:10.580 Fox, Breitbart, Newsmax, et cetera, because, um, the media on the left viciously attacked the truckers,

00:36:17.480 including CNN. I'm going to say goodbye to you now. We'll see you on Monday, but I want to leave

00:36:24.200 you with our video of the day. It's veterans in Ottawa reacting to Trudeau's comments on the Freedom

00:36:29.360 Convoy. Of course, our favorite reporter, Alexa, is the journalist. Until next time, on behalf of all

00:36:35.060 of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night. Keep fighting for freedom.

00:36:38.440 ...has invoked the Emergencies Act to supplement provincial and territorial capacity

00:36:46.440 to address the blockades and occupations.

00:36:51.160 Nobody

00:36:51.720 here causing any problems, yeah. So, yeah.

00:36:58.280 And why is it important for you to be here?

00:37:01.160 ...the emergency act.

00:37:02.360 ...the emergency act.

00:37:04.160 ...what the s***? 0.55

00:37:05.160 ...my dad, no, stop. My dad had a Nazi machine gun pointed in his face, Lee.

00:37:11.880 Whoa, whoa, whoa, don't touch me. Don't touch me. Don't touch me. Don't touch me.

00:37:15.640 ...my parents came to Canada for a better life.

00:37:17.320 ...yeah, but don't touch me.

00:37:18.520 ...oh, it's just a lunacy. I lived under dictatorship, and I lived under communism.

00:37:24.520 ...you don't know how lucky you are to be in Canada.

00:37:28.200 Whoa.

00:37:29.240 ...it's just a lunacy.

00:37:31.240 Sorry about that.

00:37:32.200 Have a nice day.

00:37:33.240 ...yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:37:34.280 What do you think about that? What just happened?

00:37:37.080 Unfortunately, they've been putting a lot of propaganda.

00:37:43.240 The news has been working, and our government's been working a lot of propaganda with the Canadian population, and it's constant.

00:37:50.760 And people are constantly exposed to the propaganda and the false narratives.

00:37:57.000 I mean, they're affected in different ways, right?

00:38:00.760 Mm-hmm.

00:38:01.640 Unfortunately.

00:38:13.240 Oh, Canada, our home and native land. True, hatred, love, in all our sons' grand.

00:38:32.440 With blowing us, we see the truth of our strong.

00:38:39.480 Hey, Alexa, for Revenues, still in Ottawa, reporting on the ground.

00:38:43.000 And today, my concern went with the South of Veterans about the fact that Prime Minister Trudeau

00:38:51.560 have invoked the Emergencies Act yesterday.

00:38:57.000 As you know, it's the first time in the history of Canada that this act has been deployed.

00:39:02.200 So, let's check it out what they have to say to me about it.

00:39:04.920 For thee, O Canada, we stand up.

00:39:13.000 Thank you.

00:39:21.560 Thank you, guys.

00:39:22.680 And I served almost 17 years. I'm a combat engineer, and I served in Afghanistan in 2010 with the 171 CAV Shadow Troop.

00:39:31.240 It was actually an American unit, so we were Canadians working with Americans in Kandahar.

00:39:35.800 My job was to basically search and find IEDs and explosives and to make holding stations safe for Afghans to vote freely, as a matter of fact.

00:39:45.240 I served three years. I served three years. I'm not a combat veteran. I did my time, did my first hook cut out.

00:39:49.800 I was in the Air Force. I did six years.

00:39:53.800 I served in Kosovo, Bosnia, and Afghanistan. And also, I'm a third-generation veteran, so my grandfather stood in the First World War, and my father stood in the Second World War.

00:40:06.040 I was just under ten years in Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry, based out of Winnipeg.

00:40:11.600 I would say that it's completely typical of the government, right? They use the boys up, throw them away, and as Mr. Trudeau said, we asked for too much.

00:40:23.120 What I wasn't prepared for, Mr. Prime Minister, is Canada turning its back on me.

00:40:27.920 So, which veteran was it that you were talking about?

00:40:39.440 Why are we still fighting against certain veterans groups in court? Because they're asking for more than we are able to give right now.

00:40:48.960 So, I'm not surprised that they're using it as a fear tactic, right? 100%.

00:40:54.360 I think you're going to be hard-pressed to find any rank-and-file soldiers or police officers that are going to be willing to smash windows out and drag peaceful protesters out of here.

00:41:05.900 So, I think it's their classic psyops, just like the ridiculous fence they put up to scare people from not coming down, not wanting to support, you know, get guys that are on the edge to leave, right?

00:41:16.520 But these guys aren't going anywhere, right? Not until we're all free again.

00:41:21.340 I'm disappointed. I mean, you fight for freedom, the freedom and the rights of every Canadian when you're active duty.

00:41:30.460 And now I'm just here to protect this monument. This isn't just a monument to me. This is the receipt of the freedom that I enjoy every day.

00:41:41.120 I'm putting a fence around it. What is that saying?

00:41:44.160 You know, that's desecration on its own.

00:41:50.080 And what is it out of the situation, especially with the Emergencies Act that have been deployed against protesters?

00:42:00.640 It's completely illegal. If you read the Emergency Act, there's nowhere in it that says that it can be used for peaceful protesters, right?

00:42:09.820 It's for war or actual insurrection, not, you know, a peaceful gathering with bouncy castles and feeding the homeless.

00:42:18.440 And we had low the crime rate, you know, so it's just classic left crazy tactics, right?

00:42:25.120 Put fear in and project their own garbage onto the other people, right?

00:42:31.800 That's what they do. That's what they've always done.

00:42:34.200 I think it's completely absurd. And if you look back throughout our history, when September 11th happened, no Emergencies Act was called.

00:42:41.320 When Corporal Nathan Cirillo was killed right here on this monument, and then the attacker went up to Parliament Hill, an Emergencies Act was not called.

00:42:48.160 And now he's in effect called an Emergencies Act on his own citizens, and he hasn't even spoken to anybody yet.

00:42:54.640 So he can't even justify it. It's absolutely absurd.

00:42:57.580 Well, I mean, I can speak on behalf of myself. As a former soldier, that is my worst fear, to have to use violence against other Canadians.

00:43:09.460 So I'm thoroughly disappointed in his decision. I think there's a peaceful resolution to what's going on here.

00:43:16.240 And I'll quote Prime Minister Trudeau, saying dialogue is the Canadian way.

00:43:23.480 Where's the dialogue? Where is the communication, sir? There is none.

00:43:27.700 I don't see the authority or the reason in the next matter, because, you know, we're all 100% completely peaceful here.

00:43:41.060 The crime level since we've been here has dropped 90%.

00:43:44.520 And we're feeding the poor in the streets.

00:43:47.740 We're cleaning up the streets.

00:43:49.140 They're shoveling off the sidewalks, salting it, making sure it's safe for people.

00:43:53.520 So, in and around this monument, I mean, this is our monument, War Memorial.

00:44:00.200 And, you know, it's shoveled off. We've salted it, make sure it's safe.

00:44:05.600 Now we're manning it 24 hours a day to make sure there's nothing, you know, nobody here causing any problems, yeah.

00:44:16.400 So, me and my colleague all across Canada, we are covering the Freedom Convoy in Alberta, Gregory, here, a little bit everywhere.

00:44:27.840 And if you want to see all our reports, please go to ConvoyReport.com.

00:44:32.340 And in this website, you can as well donate to help us with our travel expense and our journalism.

00:44:38.540 Thank you for donating generously.

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Rebel News Podcast - February 26, 2022

EZRA LEVANT ｜ The first tiny court case to go towards freedom, not lockdown mania

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