Rebel News Podcast - February 16, 2026


EZRA LEVANT ｜ The future of Alberta： A special interview with Brett Wilson


Episode Stats

Length

29 minutes

Words per Minute

170.02744

Word Count

4,958

Sentence Count

180

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary

Brett Wilson is a philanthropist, a great friend of the province, and a passionate advocate for a Yes No vote in a referendum on Alberta's independence from Canada. In this episode, we talk to Brett about why he thinks Alberta should vote yes or no on an independence referendum, and what it means for the rest of the country.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 You know, Brett Wilson is one of my favorite guys.
00:00:02.040 He's such a great Albertan.
00:00:03.440 He's such a community man.
00:00:05.460 He's a philanthropist.
00:00:06.600 I got to know him when he was a leading investor
00:00:09.280 and entrepreneur in Alberta.
00:00:11.200 And he cares about Alberta and politics and charity.
00:00:14.360 What a perfect guy to talk to about the future of Alberta
00:00:17.620 and the independence referendum.
00:00:20.280 Today, a feature interview with Brett Wilson.
00:00:23.220 But before we get to that,
00:00:24.620 please do yourself a favor and me a favor
00:00:26.720 by signing up for what we call Rebel News Plus.
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00:00:34.380 It's eight bucks a month,
00:00:35.180 which might not sound like a lot to you,
00:00:36.840 but it sure adds up for us.
00:00:38.820 One more thing.
00:00:40.180 How much longer is Alberta supposed to bankroll Ottawa's failures?
00:00:44.720 How much longer are we going to be told to shut up and pay?
00:00:48.960 Equalization, energy blockades, federal overreach.
00:00:51.920 It's enough.
00:00:53.300 Rebel News is taking the fight on the road
00:00:54.840 with the Alberta Independence Tour.
00:00:56.440 Live, in-person events all across the province.
00:00:59.820 Featuring me, Sheila Gunn-Reed,
00:01:02.420 Freedom Convoy leader, Tamara Leach,
00:01:04.500 and Western Standard's own Corey Morgan.
00:01:06.900 No censorship, no mainstream media spin,
00:01:10.120 just hard facts and a real debate and conversation
00:01:13.100 about Alberta's future.
00:01:15.180 Seats are limited.
00:01:16.200 Cities will sell out.
00:01:17.320 If you care about this province,
00:01:19.260 it's time to get off the sidelines.
00:01:21.760 Go to independencetour.com right now.
00:01:24.380 Grab your ticket before they're gone.
00:01:26.960 This is Alberta's moment.
00:01:29.080 Be in the room.
00:01:30.220 Again, that's independencetour.com.
00:01:34.340 Tonight, a heart-to-heart with Brett Wilson,
00:01:37.200 an Alberta leader,
00:01:38.460 about the future of that province.
00:01:40.560 It's February 16th.
00:01:42.000 This is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:43.360 You're fighting for freedom!
00:01:46.620 Shame on you, you sensorism bug!
00:01:49.860 Well, I'm from Alberta originally,
00:02:01.340 and it's still in my veins.
00:02:03.020 Even though I'm out here in Toronto,
00:02:04.940 I'm very interested in Alberta things.
00:02:07.300 It's always been a crucible,
00:02:08.980 a laboratory for political ideas.
00:02:11.420 It's where so many political parties are born.
00:02:13.840 Well, right now,
00:02:15.380 one of the ideas being chewed over
00:02:17.140 in that province
00:02:18.400 is that of independence.
00:02:20.900 There is a petition drive
00:02:22.700 for 177,000 signatures
00:02:25.400 that, if it's received,
00:02:26.800 will cause a referendum this October.
00:02:30.240 Well, petition gatherers
00:02:31.420 think they'll much exceed that.
00:02:33.100 They could get as many as a million
00:02:34.800 names on a petition.
00:02:36.280 I recently re-read
00:02:38.780 the Citizen Initiative Act,
00:02:40.940 and it's all in the law.
00:02:43.760 The premier doesn't even have
00:02:45.200 anything to say about it.
00:02:46.720 If the number of petitions is exceeded,
00:02:50.040 there must be a referendum,
00:02:52.200 and it must happen
00:02:53.240 before the next election.
00:02:54.700 Folks, I think this is going to go.
00:02:57.300 The question is,
00:02:59.060 is it good for Alberta
00:03:00.380 to seek independence,
00:03:01.700 and is it good for the rest of the country?
00:03:03.880 I have my opinions,
00:03:05.080 but I want to talk to a man
00:03:06.900 who is probably more Albertan
00:03:09.100 per cubic inch
00:03:10.600 than almost anyone else I know.
00:03:12.780 He is an Alberta booster
00:03:13.960 who has lived the Alberta way.
00:03:17.400 In fact, he was a great financier
00:03:19.540 who invested and helped build
00:03:21.520 that province's core industry
00:03:23.580 of the energy,
00:03:24.480 and he's joining us now
00:03:25.760 from Calgary wearing,
00:03:27.720 very symbolically,
00:03:29.160 his beautiful Canada hoodie.
00:03:32.320 Brett Wilson,
00:03:33.280 welcome back to the program.
00:03:34.220 I'm nice to see you again.
00:03:35.840 By the way, in Saskatchewan,
00:03:37.240 which is where I was born,
00:03:38.580 this isn't a hoodie.
00:03:39.620 It's a bunny hug.
00:03:40.900 Ah, bunny hug.
00:03:42.140 You know, Alberta and Saskatchewan,
00:03:43.700 I like to remind people,
00:03:45.160 were born on the same day in 1905.
00:03:47.660 In fact, there was a movement
00:03:48.940 to have them one big province
00:03:50.600 called Buffalo.
00:03:51.360 I get a chuckle out of that.
00:03:52.340 That would have been awesome.
00:03:54.040 Yep.
00:03:54.880 You know, I had the privilege
00:03:55.700 of working with a Cree shaman
00:03:57.080 about 30 years ago,
00:03:58.220 and he read my energy
00:03:59.640 and he said,
00:04:00.840 you are the Plains bison
00:04:02.740 or the buffalo.
00:04:04.120 I have a dog lying below
00:04:05.400 my desk right now.
00:04:06.680 Her name, Buffalo.
00:04:08.520 I am a big believer
00:04:09.360 in the West
00:04:10.760 and Buffalo
00:04:11.680 and Canada.
00:04:12.600 If I ever had my energy
00:04:14.620 read by a shaman,
00:04:15.580 they'd say,
00:04:16.480 bull.
00:04:18.140 That's a lot of bull.
00:04:19.520 That's what they would say to me.
00:04:21.140 That's one form of bison, though.
00:04:22.660 That's right.
00:04:23.740 You know,
00:04:24.160 let's get serious, though,
00:04:25.140 because this referendum question,
00:04:27.220 the premier, I think,
00:04:28.260 is taking an interesting
00:04:29.220 point of view.
00:04:29.880 Like I say,
00:04:30.520 it's not even up to her
00:04:31.880 whether this thing
00:04:32.840 goes on the ballot.
00:04:33.880 The law is the law.
00:04:35.200 And she was asked
00:04:36.380 to condemn separatism,
00:04:38.440 and she said,
00:04:38.980 I'm not going to condemn
00:04:39.860 30 or so percent
00:04:41.680 of my people.
00:04:42.400 Let them vote.
00:04:43.380 And I thought that was
00:04:44.080 a high-minded approach.
00:04:45.600 When you look at the polls,
00:04:46.680 they suggest as many
00:04:48.020 as 30 percent
00:04:49.420 of Albertans
00:04:50.300 have lost hope.
00:04:52.100 That's about a million people.
00:04:53.720 And I'm not going to
00:04:54.600 demonize or marginalize
00:04:55.820 a million of my fellow citizens
00:04:58.040 when they've got
00:04:58.820 legitimate grievances.
00:05:00.060 She wasn't getting
00:05:00.960 into the trenches,
00:05:02.000 but neither was she
00:05:02.940 bad-mouthing anyone.
00:05:04.420 Why don't we start with that?
00:05:05.520 Is she taking the right approach
00:05:07.420 the way she has?
00:05:09.360 I think she's following
00:05:10.280 the law, as you point out,
00:05:11.580 and allowing people
00:05:12.820 to have a voice
00:05:13.720 is probably one of the
00:05:14.740 most important things
00:05:15.600 we can do for the people
00:05:17.100 in our country,
00:05:18.220 including Saskatchewan,
00:05:19.400 Alberta, blah, blah, blah.
00:05:20.640 So her approach,
00:05:21.980 which is to say,
00:05:22.800 go ahead,
00:05:23.660 run the recall campaign
00:05:25.120 equivalent,
00:05:25.820 or cause the vote,
00:05:27.680 which then takes us
00:05:28.540 to a referendum,
00:05:30.000 she's made it clear
00:05:30.800 that in her heart,
00:05:32.060 she knows there's a million
00:05:33.000 people who are frustrated.
00:05:34.660 That doesn't mean
00:05:35.380 the end game
00:05:35.920 has to be separation.
00:05:37.160 We'll talk about that.
00:05:38.000 But the idea
00:05:38.840 that we can raise
00:05:39.620 the profile
00:05:40.320 and thought conversation
00:05:41.980 wrapped around
00:05:42.860 what does it mean
00:05:43.900 to be separated?
00:05:45.480 How do we operate
00:05:46.600 if we're independent
00:05:47.720 of the rest of our nation?
00:05:49.880 And the fact
00:05:50.640 that she's open
00:05:51.240 to the conversation,
00:05:52.420 I think is incredibly
00:05:53.240 professional on her part.
00:05:55.560 Less misguided
00:05:56.600 than almost any other leader
00:05:59.040 in our country.
00:06:00.040 I watch Rob Ford kiss
00:06:01.340 federal liberal ass.
00:06:02.920 I watch the government
00:06:04.000 of Quebec
00:06:04.520 incapable
00:06:05.440 of finding a leader.
00:06:07.600 We've got Atlantic Canada
00:06:08.700 bounces around.
00:06:09.820 A couple of the premiers
00:06:10.660 are very pro-infrastructure
00:06:12.320 resources,
00:06:13.640 others are not.
00:06:14.860 Bit of confusion.
00:06:16.280 And I'm,
00:06:16.760 you know,
00:06:16.940 Wab Canoe likes
00:06:17.780 his Crown Royal.
00:06:19.000 I get that.
00:06:19.680 And EB is one
00:06:20.440 of the most destructive
00:06:21.540 elements
00:06:22.600 of building our country.
00:06:24.340 Again,
00:06:24.600 this has got nothing
00:06:25.200 to do with separation.
00:06:26.220 This has got everything
00:06:26.780 to do with where Canada
00:06:27.680 is right now.
00:06:28.800 And all I'm getting at
00:06:30.140 is I'm a huge fan
00:06:31.160 of two premiers
00:06:32.680 in the middle,
00:06:33.440 Scott Moe
00:06:34.540 and Daniel Smith.
00:06:35.820 Yeah.
00:06:36.380 Well,
00:06:37.540 Daniel Smith,
00:06:38.620 I think,
00:06:38.900 is also being
00:06:39.560 very constructive
00:06:40.920 in her approach
00:06:41.900 to dealing with
00:06:42.440 Donald Trump.
00:06:43.420 She hasn't been
00:06:44.300 obedient or submissive
00:06:46.900 or,
00:06:47.240 I mean,
00:06:49.060 she hasn't humiliated
00:06:50.440 herself before him.
00:06:51.860 She has shown
00:06:52.480 great self-control
00:06:53.700 and she's complimented
00:06:55.100 the guy,
00:06:55.440 which I think
00:06:55.880 is part of diplomacy.
00:06:57.380 Diplomacy,
00:06:57.940 you don't go in
00:06:58.380 with a wrecking ball.
00:06:59.200 You think,
00:06:59.600 what are my interests?
00:07:00.780 I'm here to win
00:07:01.760 the result,
00:07:02.340 not win the argument.
00:07:03.920 I think she's been
00:07:04.840 the best
00:07:05.380 for Canada-U.S.
00:07:06.660 relations
00:07:07.100 of all the premiers.
00:07:08.920 No, absolutely.
00:07:09.720 And because she knows
00:07:10.300 at the end of the day,
00:07:11.660 and again,
00:07:12.100 I'm going to go back
00:07:12.580 to Trump for a moment.
00:07:13.840 I admire
00:07:14.480 what Trump's
00:07:15.260 trying to do.
00:07:16.560 In other words,
00:07:17.160 protect his country,
00:07:18.160 grow his country,
00:07:19.240 reduce the wars
00:07:20.020 in the world,
00:07:21.080 you know,
00:07:21.380 create natural resource
00:07:22.660 and empowerment.
00:07:24.120 Again,
00:07:24.560 I appreciate
00:07:25.040 what he's trying to do.
00:07:25.940 I don't like
00:07:26.360 how he's doing it.
00:07:27.200 And that's the easy
00:07:28.060 criticism to label,
00:07:30.140 partly because on Monday,
00:07:31.120 it's this direction,
00:07:32.120 Tuesday,
00:07:32.500 it's the next.
00:07:33.160 And who knows exactly
00:07:34.280 what his end game is?
00:07:35.540 So that's frustrating.
00:07:36.840 And that's where I think
00:07:37.740 the ultimate patience
00:07:39.140 and perseverance
00:07:40.540 is the ultimate goal.
00:07:44.180 And that's what
00:07:44.680 Danielle Smith
00:07:45.360 has been doing.
00:07:46.580 I can think of
00:07:47.700 two main reasons
00:07:49.480 to support independence.
00:07:51.420 There's probably others.
00:07:52.800 The first is to actually
00:07:54.340 create a new country.
00:07:55.720 But the second,
00:07:57.240 and I think Quebec
00:07:57.960 has been using this
00:07:58.860 very well for really
00:08:00.260 two generations
00:08:00.980 is to have an or else.
00:08:03.320 Give us three seats
00:08:04.420 on the 19th Supreme Court
00:08:05.840 or else we leave.
00:08:07.420 Give us control
00:08:08.280 over these jurisdictions
00:08:10.200 like immigration
00:08:11.160 or else we're gone.
00:08:12.900 Give us more money.
00:08:14.240 Like it's the or else
00:08:15.340 that gets the attention
00:08:16.780 of parliament.
00:08:18.620 Right now,
00:08:19.240 Alberta wants something.
00:08:20.760 There's no or else.
00:08:21.940 People laugh
00:08:22.580 because it's a small
00:08:24.200 percentage of the parliament.
00:08:25.520 So putting aside
00:08:27.560 for just the moment
00:08:28.520 the actually becoming
00:08:30.200 a new country reason,
00:08:32.520 isn't this referendum
00:08:33.940 a great way
00:08:34.940 of getting the attention
00:08:37.020 of the rest of Canada,
00:08:38.320 letting them know
00:08:39.140 Alberta is serious
00:08:40.180 and making them
00:08:40.980 actually try and woo
00:08:42.280 the West
00:08:43.540 instead of scoffing at it?
00:08:44.960 Isn't it a good or else?
00:08:46.520 I couldn't agree more.
00:08:47.860 And again,
00:08:48.180 I'm not anti-separation,
00:08:50.540 but when I say
00:08:51.540 I'm not pro-separation,
00:08:53.280 it means I'm watching,
00:08:54.600 I'm observing,
00:08:55.620 and what am I pro?
00:08:57.140 I'm pro what I call
00:08:58.460 collaboration.
00:08:59.740 Let's get Alberta,
00:09:00.820 Saskatchewan,
00:09:01.500 oh yeah,
00:09:02.040 and Manitoba
00:09:02.840 and why not BC
00:09:04.020 and let's not forget
00:09:05.500 the Yukon.
00:09:06.220 I'm heavily invested
00:09:07.100 in the Yukon
00:09:07.660 and Northwest Territories.
00:09:09.800 If those four provinces,
00:09:11.460 two territories
00:09:12.100 were to work
00:09:12.760 collaboratively,
00:09:14.700 guess what?
00:09:15.960 Quebec becomes
00:09:16.620 less relevant.
00:09:17.660 Ontario becomes
00:09:18.420 less relevant.
00:09:19.260 We have a more
00:09:19.820 powerful voice.
00:09:21.320 And again,
00:09:21.600 I think the thing
00:09:22.160 that's frustrated
00:09:22.700 most Albertans,
00:09:24.280 most,
00:09:24.660 again,
00:09:25.040 everything you mentioned
00:09:25.800 I agree with
00:09:26.720 in terms of
00:09:27.340 the courts
00:09:28.400 and how the judiciary
00:09:29.760 is appointed,
00:09:30.620 et cetera.
00:09:31.100 But it's the goofiness
00:09:33.420 and the inappropriateness
00:09:35.300 of equalization.
00:09:36.840 The fact that Quebec
00:09:37.580 comes out
00:09:38.240 $10,
00:09:38.560 $12,
00:09:38.900 $15 billion
00:09:40.020 a year ahead
00:09:41.120 because they refuse
00:09:42.300 to acknowledge
00:09:42.940 that they have
00:09:43.700 hydropower,
00:09:45.140 we make money
00:09:45.880 off power,
00:09:46.640 they don't,
00:09:47.520 that's amazing.
00:09:48.060 So there's just
00:09:49.040 some work
00:09:49.380 to be done
00:09:49.820 and that's why
00:09:50.480 just my gut
00:09:51.560 says collaboration
00:09:52.640 gets us
00:09:53.540 a better outcome
00:09:54.740 than trying
00:09:55.440 to separate.
00:09:56.860 You know,
00:09:57.680 Albertans,
00:09:58.520 and I still
00:09:59.660 consider myself
00:10:00.320 a spiritual
00:10:00.920 Albertan,
00:10:01.680 even though I've
00:10:02.080 been out here
00:10:02.460 in Toronto
00:10:02.840 for more than a decade.
00:10:04.280 I think Albertans
00:10:05.300 are generous
00:10:05.860 by nature
00:10:06.320 and I don't think
00:10:06.900 Albertans
00:10:07.420 have really minded
00:10:08.820 maybe lifting
00:10:10.020 a little more
00:10:10.520 than the fair share,
00:10:11.320 but when it's met
00:10:12.000 with condescension
00:10:13.000 and attacks
00:10:14.180 and humiliation
00:10:15.280 and no other
00:10:16.920 industry in this country
00:10:18.180 has the rug
00:10:19.380 pulled out
00:10:19.880 from under it.
00:10:21.140 Every other industry
00:10:21.840 in fact gets subsidies
00:10:22.960 and you know
00:10:24.900 there's something
00:10:25.400 the Jewish word
00:10:26.620 chutzpah
00:10:27.100 comes to mind
00:10:27.880 when I look
00:10:28.580 at two particular
00:10:29.860 voices.
00:10:30.600 One is David E.B.
00:10:31.420 and the other
00:10:31.840 is Elizabeth May,
00:10:33.400 both of whom
00:10:34.240 have said
00:10:34.820 this is outrageous
00:10:36.100 that Alberta
00:10:36.820 would want to leave
00:10:37.620 but both,
00:10:38.600 those two people
00:10:39.500 are responsible
00:10:40.240 for a lot
00:10:40.780 of the anti-oil,
00:10:42.240 anti-pipeline
00:10:43.260 risk and threats.
00:10:46.160 We know
00:10:46.680 foreign interference
00:10:47.460 is a threat
00:10:47.980 to Canadian democracy.
00:10:49.100 It was confirmed
00:10:49.620 by the Hope Commission
00:10:50.700 and we've taken steps
00:10:52.180 at the federal level
00:10:53.520 for federal elections
00:10:54.720 to deal with the threat
00:10:56.160 of foreign interference.
00:10:57.080 So my question
00:10:57.740 to the Honourable Minister
00:10:58.820 is,
00:10:59.480 is there
00:11:00.100 and what is being done
00:11:01.600 now to consider
00:11:02.540 the threat
00:11:03.440 of foreign interference
00:11:04.600 to provincial referenda
00:11:06.340 that could break up
00:11:07.180 this country
00:11:07.800 when we know
00:11:08.540 people in the White House
00:11:09.720 are encouraging
00:11:10.700 separatism?
00:11:11.820 What are we doing
00:11:12.520 to prepare?
00:11:13.260 I just wanted to ask
00:11:13.820 you a follow-up
00:11:14.360 on that question
00:11:15.300 of those Albertans
00:11:16.300 going to D.C.
00:11:18.760 Is this something
00:11:19.580 that you're going to raise
00:11:20.220 with Premier Smith
00:11:20.940 and do you think
00:11:21.480 that she has
00:11:22.760 any hand to play
00:11:23.880 in trying to sort of
00:11:24.780 quell that
00:11:25.380 or stop that type of thing?
00:11:26.820 Well, these are not
00:11:27.320 Albertans.
00:11:28.000 Albertans overwhelmingly
00:11:28.980 want to stay in Canada.
00:11:30.540 This is a small group
00:11:31.520 of people
00:11:32.060 that live in Alberta
00:11:33.120 that don't want
00:11:34.220 to be part of Canada,
00:11:35.120 don't want to be part
00:11:35.780 of Alberta
00:11:36.220 and I think that all of us,
00:11:39.220 myself, Premier Smith,
00:11:40.940 every Premier,
00:11:41.920 has a role to play
00:11:42.600 to say that this is
00:11:43.160 unacceptable conduct.
00:11:44.060 You can't bully Alberta
00:11:46.260 and say you're not getting
00:11:47.440 your oil through B.C.
00:11:49.520 and then freak out
00:11:50.620 when Alberta says,
00:11:51.380 well, maybe we'll sell it
00:11:52.100 through Montana
00:11:52.640 and by the way,
00:11:53.200 the Treasury Secretary
00:11:54.100 of the United States
00:11:55.440 says he'd love that.
00:11:57.260 Alberta is a wealth
00:11:58.760 of natural resources
00:11:59.820 but they won't let them
00:12:01.680 build a pipeline
00:12:02.640 to the Pacific.
00:12:04.640 I think we should
00:12:06.620 let them come down
00:12:07.940 into the U.S.
00:12:09.780 and Alberta
00:12:10.700 is a natural partner
00:12:11.920 for the U.S.
00:12:13.960 They have great resources.
00:12:16.020 The Albertans
00:12:16.720 are very independent people.
00:12:20.160 Rumors that they may
00:12:21.300 have a referendum
00:12:22.480 on whether they want
00:12:23.420 to stay in Canada
00:12:24.120 or not.
00:12:24.600 Sounds like you may
00:12:25.140 know something up there.
00:12:26.180 People are saying,
00:12:30.120 people are talking,
00:12:31.820 people are talking,
00:12:32.800 people want sovereignty.
00:12:35.400 They want what the U.S.
00:12:37.020 has got.
00:12:37.420 I think a lot of what
00:12:38.320 irritates Albertans,
00:12:39.420 if I may,
00:12:40.400 is the hypocrisy.
00:12:42.660 Give us your money
00:12:43.460 but we're going to slander
00:12:45.220 you and your industries.
00:12:47.580 It's a lack of respect
00:12:49.540 and that's not that important,
00:12:51.740 I suppose,
00:12:52.880 compared to dollars
00:12:53.980 and sense issues
00:12:54.800 but it actually
00:12:55.860 is sort of important
00:12:56.840 I think to human beings.
00:12:57.880 They need to feel respected.
00:12:59.840 Let's speak for just a moment
00:13:02.660 about a guy
00:13:03.340 who wrote a song
00:13:04.400 22 years ago
00:13:06.140 and in the song
00:13:07.620 there's a line that says
00:13:08.620 I have independence
00:13:09.960 in my veins.
00:13:11.400 Yeah.
00:13:11.500 And I'll be
00:13:12.840 Albert abound
00:13:14.480 until I die
00:13:16.660 It's a
00:13:20.240 crowd that's been
00:13:21.840 passed down
00:13:22.760 me
00:13:23.300 Deep as coal mines
00:13:25.100 Wild as farmer's fields
00:13:27.540 Yeah, I've got
00:13:28.900 independence
00:13:30.340 in my veins
00:13:32.700 Alberta bound
00:13:35.000 Yeah.
00:13:35.700 Paul Grant
00:13:36.280 Yeah.
00:13:36.980 The government of Alberta
00:13:38.260 allowed the Teachers Association
00:13:39.840 to punt Paul
00:13:41.640 on the perception
00:13:43.020 that he was a separatist
00:13:45.380 and they punted him
00:13:46.700 from speaking
00:13:47.540 about his program
00:13:49.520 Not in My City
00:13:50.480 and candidly
00:13:51.380 there is no artist
00:13:52.480 entertainer
00:13:53.820 in Canada
00:13:54.860 superior to the effort
00:13:56.780 and initiative
00:13:57.540 of Paul Brandt
00:13:58.840 working against
00:13:59.840 sex trafficking
00:14:00.600 Right.
00:14:01.100 bringing children
00:14:01.700 into our country
00:14:02.480 illegally,
00:14:03.040 immorally,
00:14:03.540 unethically,
00:14:04.380 etc.
00:14:05.000 But here
00:14:05.520 we have a government
00:14:06.520 agency
00:14:07.380 the Alberta Teachers Association
00:14:09.000 punts him
00:14:10.080 because he has a song
00:14:11.440 that says
00:14:11.980 I have independence
00:14:12.900 in my veins
00:14:13.700 Yeah.
00:14:14.020 Paul hasn't talked
00:14:15.200 about that at all
00:14:16.000 Right.
00:14:16.320 the fact is
00:14:16.880 that we've got
00:14:17.360 blood flowing
00:14:17.940 Right.
00:14:18.520 and we are the West
00:14:19.460 and we appreciate
00:14:20.480 who we are
00:14:21.140 and it's just the fact
00:14:22.640 in my mind
00:14:23.300 the only thing
00:14:23.980 that really needs
00:14:24.500 to be solved
00:14:25.080 is equalization payments
00:14:26.800 Yeah.
00:14:27.260 that then allows us
00:14:28.600 a lot of flexibility
00:14:29.560 There's confusion
00:14:30.580 over Canada Pension Plan
00:14:31.740 there's confusion
00:14:32.340 over RCMP
00:14:33.500 there's confusion
00:14:34.480 over the political
00:14:35.540 appointees
00:14:36.660 all of that
00:14:37.480 is real
00:14:38.200 and all of that
00:14:39.360 has to be solved
00:14:40.080 and that's
00:14:40.660 in no small part
00:14:41.620 you already talked
00:14:42.240 about this
00:14:42.660 the noise
00:14:43.620 that's created
00:14:44.560 by the separatist movement
00:14:46.020 can amplify
00:14:47.000 the opportunity
00:14:47.940 for us to properly
00:14:49.260 negotiate
00:14:49.880 a better outcome
00:14:50.980 I'm just asking
00:14:52.120 suggesting
00:14:52.720 encouraging
00:14:53.340 to do it
00:14:54.100 in the context
00:14:54.660 of collaboration
00:14:55.700 let's get the West
00:14:57.060 working together
00:14:58.120 and I make fun
00:14:59.120 of the fact
00:14:59.520 that people forget
00:15:00.320 that there's a group
00:15:01.080 of small provinces
00:15:02.480 on the East Coast
00:15:03.800 that work collaboratively
00:15:05.080 what do they call
00:15:05.980 themselves
00:15:06.500 the Maritimes
00:15:08.060 or Atlantic Canada
00:15:09.520 Right.
00:15:10.280 and all we want
00:15:11.040 to be
00:15:11.380 is Western Canada
00:15:12.600 and that's my pitch
00:15:13.480 you know Brett
00:15:14.840 about 50 years ago
00:15:16.520 there was a radio host
00:15:17.580 in Toronto
00:15:18.000 Gordon Sinclair
00:15:18.780 who made a beautiful
00:15:20.120 love letter
00:15:20.880 to Americans
00:15:21.620 sort of
00:15:22.520 hey everyone
00:15:23.060 knocks America
00:15:23.940 but they're the first
00:15:24.980 to help in a
00:15:25.900 you know a hurricane
00:15:27.060 and they're there
00:15:28.680 you know
00:15:29.360 it went viral
00:15:31.640 before that was
00:15:32.620 sort of a phrase
00:15:33.560 it was pressed
00:15:34.940 into records
00:15:35.540 it was a bestseller
00:15:36.300 and you know
00:15:36.740 what it was
00:15:37.360 it was a guy
00:15:39.260 showing gratitude
00:15:40.960 it was
00:15:41.660 it was a national
00:15:43.000 thank you
00:15:43.900 and I think America
00:15:45.020 really wanted to hear that
00:15:46.280 because America
00:15:47.300 was like the big dad
00:15:48.840 always taking care
00:15:50.220 of things
00:15:50.640 and everyone could
00:15:51.680 make fun of dad
00:15:52.840 because he's dad
00:15:53.740 I think
00:15:54.800 there's some of that
00:15:55.880 with Alberta too
00:15:56.800 I can't
00:15:57.980 I mean
00:15:58.200 even right now
00:15:59.320 I couldn't believe it
00:16:00.320 when I heard Ontario
00:16:01.260 is now a have not province
00:16:03.100 I'm not sure
00:16:03.640 if that's the case
00:16:04.260 in 2026
00:16:05.000 but that's crazy to me
00:16:06.920 I can't recall
00:16:09.220 a time
00:16:09.900 when the premier
00:16:11.220 of Quebec
00:16:11.880 or Ontario
00:16:12.940 or any of the
00:16:13.660 Maritimes said
00:16:14.340 hey Alberta
00:16:15.220 you know what
00:16:15.920 people give you
00:16:17.280 a hard deal
00:16:18.900 but we're really
00:16:20.060 grateful
00:16:20.420 you know
00:16:20.780 hey we're Newfoundlanders
00:16:21.980 you really saved
00:16:22.880 a lot of our jobs
00:16:24.120 by hiring thousands
00:16:25.520 of our guys
00:16:26.400 hey you really
00:16:27.420 like when was
00:16:28.200 the last
00:16:28.520 I know that sounds
00:16:29.660 goofy
00:16:30.060 but it's been
00:16:31.600 the opposite
00:16:32.100 of thank you
00:16:32.800 it's you
00:16:33.680 plundering
00:16:34.600 stupid cowboy
00:16:36.360 like it's
00:16:37.240 you know
00:16:38.260 I think those things
00:16:39.340 add up
00:16:39.780 over 75 years
00:16:41.280 but you're absolutely
00:16:42.520 right again
00:16:43.000 I just think about
00:16:43.580 the three or four
00:16:44.600 decades that
00:16:45.380 you and I
00:16:45.960 have both been
00:16:46.440 involved with
00:16:46.880 the businesses
00:16:47.360 of Alberta
00:16:48.280 and Canada
00:16:48.920 our respect
00:16:50.460 for the country
00:16:51.340 people were
00:16:52.180 again
00:16:52.560 Newfoundlanders
00:16:53.880 would come out
00:16:54.400 two weeks in
00:16:55.120 one week off
00:16:55.740 they'd come
00:16:56.120 every week
00:16:57.040 to pour in
00:16:58.000 and work
00:16:58.760 and nobody
00:16:59.640 ever questioned
00:17:00.320 that
00:17:00.620 it was thoughtful
00:17:01.320 it was respectful
00:17:02.440 by the way
00:17:03.420 quick diversion
00:17:04.460 today Trump
00:17:05.760 announced that
00:17:06.400 he's going
00:17:06.820 to spank
00:17:07.600 the extremes
00:17:09.020 of climate
00:17:09.840 alarmism
00:17:10.680 I happen to be
00:17:11.680 cynical about
00:17:12.400 the impact
00:17:13.060 of CO2
00:17:14.100 but if someone
00:17:14.860 doesn't agree
00:17:15.300 with me
00:17:15.560 that's fine
00:17:16.160 just make sure
00:17:16.860 you tell China
00:17:17.720 don't tell me
00:17:18.720 China doesn't care
00:17:20.320 and the fact
00:17:21.200 that the United
00:17:21.740 States has now
00:17:22.640 acknowledged
00:17:23.260 that we need
00:17:24.320 to grow
00:17:25.240 our economy
00:17:26.800 and the best
00:17:27.900 way to do
00:17:28.420 that is to
00:17:29.340 first of all
00:17:29.900 and this is
00:17:30.240 where we as
00:17:30.820 Canadians
00:17:31.340 Albertans
00:17:32.120 we need
00:17:32.840 electricity
00:17:33.380 we ignore
00:17:34.680 everything else
00:17:35.280 we need
00:17:35.900 electricity
00:17:36.320 because everything
00:17:36.760 we do
00:17:37.200 everything in
00:17:37.900 your room
00:17:38.300 everything that's
00:17:38.820 built behind
00:17:39.300 me
00:17:39.560 everything requires
00:17:40.960 electricity
00:17:41.600 number one
00:17:42.460 and number two
00:17:43.320 is steel
00:17:44.060 how do you make
00:17:44.700 steel
00:17:45.000 ah
00:17:45.620 metallurgical
00:17:46.420 coal
00:17:46.900 we're one of the
00:17:47.600 largest producers
00:17:48.320 as a country
00:17:49.340 of metallurgical
00:17:50.060 coal in the
00:17:51.100 world
00:17:51.400 and guess what
00:17:52.240 in Ontario
00:17:53.000 they make
00:17:53.860 steel
00:17:54.460 with met
00:17:55.980 coal that comes
00:17:56.680 from the
00:17:57.760 Appalachians
00:17:58.420 we're collaborating
00:18:00.220 in so many
00:18:00.920 bizarre ways
00:18:01.740 and yet we
00:18:02.620 quietly go
00:18:03.380 oh not
00:18:04.060 quite right
00:18:04.720 and that's
00:18:05.360 where I
00:18:05.900 celebrate what
00:18:06.500 Trump's doing
00:18:07.000 and again if
00:18:07.440 people disagree
00:18:08.040 with how
00:18:08.820 he's approaching
00:18:09.400 it just make
00:18:10.240 sure China
00:18:10.720 knows first
00:18:11.400 because he's
00:18:12.400 not going to
00:18:12.880 swing his
00:18:13.300 stance right
00:18:14.780 away
00:18:15.020 I was in
00:18:16.600 Calgary a few
00:18:17.120 weeks ago
00:18:17.580 when Mark
00:18:18.060 Carney visited
00:18:18.800 Daniel Smith
00:18:19.400 and they
00:18:19.740 announced
00:18:20.120 something they
00:18:20.880 called the
00:18:21.220 MOU
00:18:21.600 the Memorandum
00:18:22.440 of Understanding
00:18:23.220 and it
00:18:24.500 dealt with a lot
00:18:25.220 of things at
00:18:25.720 once and
00:18:26.400 Premier Smith
00:18:27.080 says there
00:18:27.640 were some
00:18:27.940 real wins
00:18:28.580 in there
00:18:28.960 for Mount
00:18:29.400 Robert
00:18:29.760 and I'm
00:18:30.120 not going
00:18:30.380 to deny
00:18:30.820 that
00:18:31.220 but the
00:18:31.700 whole payoff
00:18:32.440 was supposed
00:18:33.040 to be a
00:18:33.460 pipeline
00:18:33.840 and there
00:18:34.800 were so
00:18:35.140 many front
00:18:35.760 end loaded
00:18:36.200 costs and
00:18:36.960 risks and
00:18:37.580 carbon capture
00:18:38.440 and taxes
00:18:39.420 and the
00:18:40.680 payoff
00:18:41.220 if I remember
00:18:42.540 the MOU
00:18:43.020 from memory
00:18:44.000 might not
00:18:45.920 be till
00:18:46.280 2040
00:18:46.920 and I
00:18:48.300 felt deflated
00:18:49.680 because I
00:18:50.080 wanted a
00:18:50.740 win
00:18:51.000 like I
00:18:51.340 really did
00:18:52.100 thought well
00:18:52.840 maybe this
00:18:53.260 is totally
00:18:53.620 different than
00:18:54.060 Justin Trudeau
00:18:54.860 as you know
00:18:55.820 I support a
00:18:56.760 strong
00:18:57.080 and sovereign
00:18:57.880 Alberta
00:18:58.140 within a
00:18:58.600 united Canada
00:18:59.220 I know we
00:18:59.620 might have a
00:19:00.020 bit of a
00:19:00.460 difference of
00:19:00.900 opinion on
00:19:01.440 that but I
00:19:02.280 hope people
00:19:02.840 today feel a
00:19:04.080 lot more
00:19:04.340 confident than
00:19:04.860 Canada works
00:19:05.500 than they did
00:19:05.900 a couple of
00:19:06.300 days ago
00:19:06.740 but let me
00:19:13.700 ask you this
00:19:14.220 because you're
00:19:14.580 actually in
00:19:15.160 the industry
00:19:15.860 in the month
00:19:17.500 or two since
00:19:18.460 that MOU
00:19:19.100 was announced
00:19:19.860 has there
00:19:21.120 actually been
00:19:22.100 an appetite
00:19:22.660 from oil
00:19:23.400 producers to
00:19:24.100 say hey
00:19:24.600 let's pursue
00:19:26.140 that as
00:19:26.940 opposed to
00:19:27.620 oil and
00:19:28.540 gas everywhere
00:19:29.020 else in
00:19:29.400 the world
00:19:29.620 including
00:19:29.940 Venezuela
00:19:30.400 for heaven's
00:19:31.140 sakes
00:19:31.340 like is it
00:19:32.180 attractive enough
00:19:33.140 that real
00:19:34.100 guys are
00:19:34.680 putting real
00:19:35.320 money behind
00:19:36.000 it
00:19:36.340 you know it
00:19:38.340 was yesterday
00:19:38.760 that Alex
00:19:39.300 Purvey the
00:19:39.960 executive chairman
00:19:40.760 of Synovus
00:19:41.460 came out and
00:19:42.060 said until I
00:19:43.220 can sell oil
00:19:44.140 to the world
00:19:44.860 there's not
00:19:45.520 much point in
00:19:46.240 us increasing
00:19:47.340 our capacity
00:19:48.180 so we're
00:19:49.280 going to
00:19:49.520 limit the
00:19:50.480 size of
00:19:51.100 our natural
00:19:51.540 resource
00:19:51.980 industry
00:19:52.520 without a
00:19:53.300 pipeline
00:19:53.620 now a
00:19:54.740 little bit
00:19:54.960 of background
00:19:55.400 I know a
00:19:56.060 few people
00:19:56.460 in the
00:19:56.660 pipeline
00:19:56.960 industry
00:19:57.440 and are
00:19:58.560 they dancing
00:19:59.180 are they
00:19:59.560 talking
00:19:59.980 are they
00:20:00.560 looking at
00:20:01.140 where do
00:20:01.480 we go
00:20:01.760 how do
00:20:02.040 we do
00:20:02.320 it
00:20:02.520 absolutely
00:20:03.340 I mean
00:20:04.320 it's bizarre
00:20:04.940 that the
00:20:05.520 First Nation
00:20:06.100 this group
00:20:06.580 called Coastal
00:20:07.320 First Nation
00:20:07.920 who not
00:20:08.700 First Nations
00:20:09.420 they're an
00:20:10.260 NGO funded
00:20:11.460 by the
00:20:11.860 Americans
00:20:12.260 who are
00:20:12.660 anti-energy
00:20:13.740 it's just
00:20:14.380 bullshit
00:20:14.740 or it's
00:20:15.240 nonsense
00:20:15.560 that they
00:20:16.280 exist
00:20:16.760 Carney met
00:20:17.620 with them
00:20:17.980 I poke
00:20:18.700 Carney over
00:20:19.280 why would
00:20:19.760 you meet
00:20:20.160 with people
00:20:20.660 who are
00:20:21.140 opposed to
00:20:21.600 the development
00:20:22.060 of our
00:20:22.360 country
00:20:22.700 and his
00:20:23.520 note back
00:20:24.080 was Brett
00:20:24.600 I had to
00:20:25.300 it was part
00:20:25.980 of the
00:20:26.160 communication
00:20:26.720 with the
00:20:27.540 First Nations
00:20:28.100 now going
00:20:28.640 back I'm
00:20:29.040 heavily invested
00:20:29.780 in the
00:20:30.060 Yukon
00:20:30.400 my Yukon
00:20:31.400 partners
00:20:31.960 55% of the
00:20:33.540 business that
00:20:34.120 I'm in
00:20:34.500 are First
00:20:35.500 Nation
00:20:35.800 and guess
00:20:36.620 where we're
00:20:36.880 going next
00:20:37.460 from Whitehorse
00:20:38.520 our next
00:20:39.360 investment
00:20:39.840 portfolio
00:20:40.440 Prince
00:20:41.900 Rupert
00:20:43.020 why would
00:20:43.700 we go to
00:20:43.980 Prince Rupert
00:20:44.520 as First
00:20:44.940 Nations if
00:20:45.500 they didn't
00:20:45.900 believe that
00:20:46.820 the end game
00:20:47.380 was ultimately
00:20:48.040 to properly
00:20:49.040 develop
00:20:49.680 Prince Rupert
00:20:50.740 so there's
00:20:51.380 thoughtful
00:20:51.820 leadership
00:20:52.440 inside the
00:20:53.260 First Nation
00:20:53.720 groups
00:20:54.100 there's
00:20:54.740 thoughtful
00:20:55.100 noise
00:20:55.740 irrational
00:20:56.260 noise
00:20:56.780 coming
00:20:57.320 pretending
00:20:57.880 to be
00:20:58.320 First Nation
00:20:58.920 which is
00:20:59.560 frustrating
00:20:59.980 but there's
00:21:00.640 no question
00:21:01.200 several people
00:21:02.300 who build
00:21:02.720 pipelines
00:21:03.220 are in
00:21:03.860 communication
00:21:04.480 the fact
00:21:05.440 by the way
00:21:05.960 one of the
00:21:06.300 greatest
00:21:06.520 celebrations
00:21:07.120 is the fact
00:21:08.120 that Stephen
00:21:08.660 Guybeau
00:21:09.080 resigned
00:21:09.740 when the
00:21:11.020 MOU
00:21:11.580 was imposed
00:21:12.460 and there
00:21:13.160 was something
00:21:13.500 called
00:21:13.800 clean energy
00:21:14.440 regulations
00:21:15.120 which he
00:21:16.020 had forced
00:21:16.480 upon us
00:21:17.200 I just
00:21:18.160 announced
00:21:18.600 that we
00:21:18.900 could go
00:21:19.220 through
00:21:19.420 maximum
00:21:19.720 power
00:21:20.100 we're
00:21:20.540 building
00:21:20.760 another
00:21:21.020 power
00:21:21.280 plan
00:21:21.520 600
00:21:22.600 million
00:21:24.620 dollar
00:21:25.320 investment
00:21:25.960 we wouldn't
00:21:27.100 have made
00:21:27.460 that investment
00:21:28.140 with clean
00:21:28.940 energy
00:21:29.300 regulations
00:21:29.940 because it
00:21:30.840 forcibly
00:21:31.640 punished
00:21:32.380 us
00:21:32.720 in terms
00:21:33.680 of
00:21:34.000 sorry
00:21:35.160 phone
00:21:35.600 they
00:21:36.440 purposely
00:21:37.700 punished
00:21:38.220 us
00:21:38.500 and we
00:21:38.780 just
00:21:39.060 it was
00:21:39.740 so
00:21:40.020 frustrating
00:21:40.960 in terms
00:21:41.400 of that
00:21:41.640 part of
00:21:41.940 the process
00:21:42.400 and where's
00:21:42.880 that power
00:21:43.200 plant going
00:21:43.580 to be
00:21:43.900 right near
00:21:45.300 Grand
00:21:45.640 Casha
00:21:45.960 or pardon
00:21:46.480 me
00:21:46.620 Grand
00:21:46.860 Prairie
00:21:47.240 right
00:21:47.760 well that's
00:21:48.720 exciting
00:21:48.960 yeah Grand
00:21:49.440 Prairie
00:21:49.580 and we
00:21:50.740 are talking
00:21:51.200 to the
00:21:51.520 data center
00:21:51.960 people
00:21:52.280 we are
00:21:52.600 talking
00:21:52.840 to all
00:21:53.060 those
00:21:53.240 things
00:21:53.460 but it
00:21:53.920 goes back
00:21:54.240 to the
00:21:54.500 most
00:21:54.680 important
00:21:55.060 asset
00:21:55.440 we have
00:21:56.480 in
00:21:56.680 Canada
00:21:57.060 is our
00:21:57.740 ability
00:21:58.160 to produce
00:21:59.080 electricity
00:21:59.920 right
00:22:00.380 think back
00:22:01.120 just go
00:22:01.440 back to
00:22:01.680 the big
00:22:01.920 picture
00:22:02.160 watch
00:22:02.540 what
00:22:02.740 China's
00:22:03.120 been
00:22:03.260 doing
00:22:03.540 you know
00:22:04.080 the alarmists
00:22:04.760 will say
00:22:05.140 it's all
00:22:05.460 about solar
00:22:06.000 and wind
00:22:06.520 but the
00:22:07.260 reality is
00:22:08.100 they've got
00:22:08.860 gas-fired
00:22:09.360 turbines
00:22:09.840 everywhere
00:22:10.360 and they've
00:22:11.180 got coal-fired
00:22:12.960 power plants
00:22:13.740 as well
00:22:14.220 they need
00:22:15.080 and know
00:22:15.600 they need
00:22:16.140 electricity
00:22:16.680 as they
00:22:17.440 grow their
00:22:17.800 economy
00:22:18.200 we are
00:22:19.220 getting sloppy
00:22:19.920 we're sloppy
00:22:20.720 with our grid
00:22:21.540 we're sloppy
00:22:22.380 with the
00:22:22.800 production of
00:22:23.360 power
00:22:23.700 do I believe
00:22:24.660 in nuclear
00:22:25.100 absolutely
00:22:25.820 problem is
00:22:26.640 on a per
00:22:27.400 megawatt basis
00:22:28.020 it's 10 times
00:22:28.800 the cost
00:22:29.300 of what it
00:22:30.060 would cost
00:22:30.480 to make
00:22:30.980 a gas-fired
00:22:32.000 power plant
00:22:32.620 do we have
00:22:33.300 enough gas
00:22:33.920 yeah we do
00:22:35.280 so that's
00:22:36.360 that's where it
00:22:37.040 all gets kind
00:22:37.540 of confusing
00:22:37.980 but I'm a huge
00:22:38.520 fan of
00:22:38.980 advancing
00:22:39.760 electricity
00:22:40.580 across Canada
00:22:41.720 hey I want to
00:22:43.320 ask you
00:22:43.660 something
00:22:44.100 this is just
00:22:44.680 a hunch
00:22:45.120 I have
00:22:45.520 and I
00:22:45.720 wonder what
00:22:46.160 your reaction
00:22:46.800 is
00:22:47.140 Alberta
00:22:47.980 has its
00:22:48.600 list of
00:22:49.060 issues
00:22:49.480 from the
00:22:50.640 Senate
00:22:50.900 being lopsided
00:22:51.820 to
00:22:52.060 underrepresentation
00:22:52.920 in the
00:22:53.160 House
00:22:53.460 to
00:22:53.760 government
00:22:54.680 bilingualism
00:22:55.640 keeping out
00:22:56.260 Albertans
00:22:56.640 from some
00:22:57.020 jobs
00:22:57.460 I could
00:22:59.320 list
00:22:59.480 20 of
00:22:59.880 them
00:23:00.000 that we
00:23:00.280 all know
00:23:00.820 about
00:23:01.140 but I
00:23:01.920 think that
00:23:02.720 there's
00:23:03.100 something else
00:23:04.020 that's happened
00:23:04.480 in the last
00:23:05.080 year
00:23:05.440 Mark Carney
00:23:06.680 promised he
00:23:08.200 would be the
00:23:08.580 Trump whisperer
00:23:09.580 and get her
00:23:10.400 done
00:23:10.660 and he
00:23:11.120 hasn't
00:23:11.540 in fact
00:23:11.820 he's sort
00:23:12.160 of been
00:23:12.680 poking
00:23:13.080 Trump
00:23:13.420 that works
00:23:13.880 for him
00:23:14.140 in the polls
00:23:14.580 obviously
00:23:15.140 Ontario
00:23:15.840 and Quebec
00:23:16.360 love it
00:23:17.560 how much
00:23:19.120 of the
00:23:19.660 strength
00:23:20.480 of the
00:23:20.900 independence
00:23:21.800 petition
00:23:22.360 gathering
00:23:22.860 because it
00:23:23.300 looks really
00:23:23.680 strong to
00:23:24.100 me
00:23:24.300 is Albertan
00:23:25.540 saying you
00:23:25.940 know what
00:23:26.340 it's not
00:23:26.800 just our
00:23:27.400 historic
00:23:27.980 grievances
00:23:29.160 look at
00:23:30.760 what
00:23:31.020 Mark Carney
00:23:32.080 is promising
00:23:32.780 us as
00:23:33.920 the carrot
00:23:34.440 as opposed
00:23:34.900 to the stick
00:23:35.420 a new
00:23:36.960 world order
00:23:37.580 he literally
00:23:38.320 used that
00:23:38.860 phrase when
00:23:39.380 he was in
00:23:39.780 China
00:23:40.040 he's hanging
00:23:41.180 out with
00:23:41.800 Qatar
00:23:42.420 and the
00:23:42.780 World Economic
00:23:43.360 Forum
00:23:43.780 and wants
00:23:44.240 to triangulate
00:23:45.080 against America
00:23:45.920 and like
00:23:46.800 he's doing
00:23:49.380 things that
00:23:49.980 I don't
00:23:50.320 think he
00:23:50.820 has a
00:23:51.280 mandate
00:23:51.580 for
00:23:52.000 and I
00:23:52.820 think
00:23:53.020 Albertans
00:23:53.560 are thinking
00:23:54.100 independence
00:23:55.820 gets us
00:23:56.460 to solve
00:23:57.460 old
00:23:57.920 problems
00:23:58.480 but it
00:23:58.980 also
00:23:59.320 lets
00:24:00.020 if Carney
00:24:00.580 wants to
00:24:01.060 muck about
00:24:01.580 on his
00:24:02.220 own
00:24:02.480 let's just
00:24:03.240 like I
00:24:03.580 just think
00:24:03.940 he's actually
00:24:04.680 driving
00:24:05.220 some Albertans
00:24:06.460 away with
00:24:06.920 some of his
00:24:07.380 more radical
00:24:07.900 moves
00:24:08.440 it's frustrating
00:24:09.880 and by the
00:24:10.420 way when I
00:24:10.860 talk to some
00:24:11.360 of the
00:24:11.560 separatists
00:24:12.140 and I
00:24:12.720 mean this
00:24:13.060 to be
00:24:13.300 funny
00:24:13.560 I ask
00:24:14.380 and I've
00:24:14.720 been on
00:24:15.020 stage with
00:24:15.700 small groups
00:24:16.280 to talk
00:24:16.980 about this
00:24:17.440 do you
00:24:17.880 want a
00:24:18.220 wall
00:24:18.580 like Trump
00:24:19.160 built against
00:24:19.780 the United
00:24:20.620 States
00:24:21.000 or Mexico
00:24:21.740 or do you
00:24:22.560 just want
00:24:22.820 a chain link
00:24:23.340 fence
00:24:23.720 they're looking
00:24:24.480 at me going
00:24:24.820 why would we
00:24:25.440 need a wall
00:24:25.960 or a fence
00:24:26.460 and I go
00:24:27.020 alright fine
00:24:27.580 if you don't
00:24:27.840 want a wall
00:24:28.140 or a fence
00:24:28.480 why don't we
00:24:29.060 just dig a
00:24:29.520 moat
00:24:29.800 so that
00:24:30.600 nobody can
00:24:31.100 come across
00:24:31.700 and the
00:24:32.460 point is
00:24:33.200 that it's
00:24:33.820 not physical
00:24:34.720 separation
00:24:35.420 we're not
00:24:35.900 going to
00:24:36.460 radically
00:24:36.980 change how
00:24:37.680 we get
00:24:38.440 in and out
00:24:38.900 and imagine
00:24:39.320 trying to
00:24:39.800 have border
00:24:40.740 crossings
00:24:41.400 at every
00:24:42.360 quarter section
00:24:43.320 of farmland
00:24:44.460 up and down
00:24:45.060 the Saskatchewan
00:24:45.780 Alberta border
00:24:46.400 how do we
00:24:47.220 stop that
00:24:48.220 my point is
00:24:49.960 we become a
00:24:50.840 better region
00:24:51.940 a better province
00:24:53.100 a better area
00:24:54.280 if we collaborate
00:24:55.460 and that's what I just
00:24:56.520 make fun of
00:24:57.040 separation isn't
00:24:58.240 physical
00:24:58.640 it's only
00:24:59.580 paperwork
00:25:00.200 if it's only
00:25:01.060 paperwork
00:25:01.620 why don't we
00:25:02.320 work collaboratively
00:25:03.280 so that we can
00:25:03.980 grow a nation
00:25:05.760 within a nation
00:25:06.820 not a province
00:25:08.140 but a nation
00:25:09.100 let me ask you
00:25:10.460 one last question
00:25:11.060 you've been very
00:25:11.560 generous with your
00:25:12.220 time
00:25:12.500 thank you for
00:25:13.020 that
00:25:13.240 I think
00:25:14.700 something is
00:25:15.480 cooking out
00:25:16.060 there
00:25:16.300 and I think
00:25:17.660 it's rather
00:25:18.280 leaderless
00:25:19.280 I mean there's
00:25:19.820 Jeffrey Rath
00:25:20.720 and a few
00:25:21.120 other people
00:25:22.200 who have been
00:25:22.680 thrust to the
00:25:23.640 front of it
00:25:24.000 and I'm not
00:25:24.560 knocking anyone
00:25:25.260 for their hard
00:25:25.880 work
00:25:26.100 the Alberta
00:25:26.460 Prosperity Project
00:25:27.360 has done some
00:25:28.760 hard work
00:25:29.220 but there's
00:25:29.600 it's a massive
00:25:30.980 parade that is
00:25:31.980 mustering
00:25:32.680 and there's
00:25:34.680 no
00:25:35.200 you know
00:25:36.320 seasoned
00:25:36.940 politician at the
00:25:38.080 head of it
00:25:38.500 there's no
00:25:39.080 official
00:25:40.100 guy
00:25:41.040 and that's
00:25:42.520 very rare
00:25:43.160 in politics
00:25:43.780 to have a
00:25:44.340 parade without
00:25:44.900 a parade
00:25:45.400 marshal
00:25:45.900 do you think
00:25:48.460 someone's going
00:25:49.020 to emerge
00:25:49.540 and say
00:25:49.980 you know
00:25:50.240 what
00:25:50.540 this is
00:25:52.160 the moment
00:25:52.680 the parade
00:25:53.500 wants to
00:25:54.120 march
00:25:54.340 I'm going
00:25:54.620 to start
00:25:54.900 leading the
00:25:55.300 march
00:25:55.540 because
00:25:55.980 no disrespect
00:25:56.900 to the
00:25:57.240 current team
00:25:57.640 many of whom
00:25:58.140 I know
00:25:58.400 and like
00:25:58.780 they're not
00:25:59.940 household names
00:26:00.600 they don't
00:26:00.860 have the
00:26:01.140 gravitas
00:26:01.640 like when
00:26:02.280 Preston Manning
00:26:02.940 emerged
00:26:03.420 to lead the
00:26:04.040 reform party
00:26:04.600 people sort
00:26:05.080 of knew him
00:26:05.480 and they knew
00:26:05.820 his dad
00:26:06.280 and they knew
00:26:06.700 his thinking
00:26:07.440 he had
00:26:07.920 some
00:26:08.220 you've got
00:26:09.100 some gravitas
00:26:09.920 you've got
00:26:10.500 name recognition
00:26:11.200 is there someone
00:26:12.240 like you
00:26:12.780 or Preston
00:26:13.460 who might
00:26:14.220 step forward
00:26:15.080 not Preston
00:26:15.760 this time
00:26:16.100 but step forward
00:26:17.260 and say
00:26:17.540 all right
00:26:17.940 I'm going
00:26:18.400 to take
00:26:18.660 this seriously
00:26:19.380 whether it's
00:26:20.520 to get
00:26:20.840 independence
00:26:21.300 or a strong
00:26:22.260 or else
00:26:22.740 is a man
00:26:23.640 about to
00:26:24.060 enter the
00:26:24.480 arena
00:26:24.700 or a woman
00:26:25.240 I haven't
00:26:26.960 heard of
00:26:27.420 anyone
00:26:27.780 I got
00:26:28.220 poked
00:26:28.540 a couple
00:26:28.880 years ago
00:26:29.380 at playing
00:26:29.720 a role
00:26:30.000 my health
00:26:30.680 journey
00:26:31.020 stopped me
00:26:31.680 from doing
00:26:32.020 anything
00:26:32.400 and then
00:26:33.060 as I thought
00:26:33.700 about it
00:26:34.100 my belief
00:26:34.620 as I share
00:26:35.120 with you
00:26:35.520 I'm not
00:26:36.200 anti-separation
00:26:37.420 I am
00:26:38.080 pro-collaboration
00:26:39.740 because I believe
00:26:40.480 if we work
00:26:41.380 together
00:26:41.960 we can create
00:26:43.120 an entire
00:26:43.700 nation
00:26:44.200 within a nation
00:26:45.020 Alberta alone
00:26:46.380 we're not
00:26:47.940 really connected
00:26:48.620 to the ports
00:26:49.300 we're not
00:26:49.760 really connected
00:26:50.500 and again
00:26:51.180 there's noise
00:26:51.720 over how the
00:26:52.620 First Nations
00:26:53.140 would want to be
00:26:53.820 involved
00:26:54.320 or not involved
00:26:55.520 etc
00:26:55.920 but no
00:26:57.600 I've not
00:26:58.080 seen
00:26:58.560 or heard
00:26:59.280 of anybody
00:27:00.220 with existing
00:27:01.360 high
00:27:02.080 political
00:27:02.780 profile
00:27:03.400 looking to
00:27:04.360 migrate
00:27:05.000 over to
00:27:06.080 and play
00:27:06.400 an active
00:27:06.780 role
00:27:07.040 so you're
00:27:08.080 right
00:27:08.280 there isn't
00:27:08.840 an active
00:27:09.320 leader
00:27:09.700 but the
00:27:10.540 influencers
00:27:11.140 social media
00:27:11.780 influencers
00:27:12.240 are creating
00:27:12.840 lots of
00:27:13.260 noise
00:27:13.500 I know
00:27:14.040 a few
00:27:14.300 of them
00:27:14.520 and we've
00:27:14.860 spoke
00:27:15.200 again
00:27:15.840 I'm not
00:27:16.540 anti-separation
00:27:17.540 I'm
00:27:18.040 pro-collaboration
00:27:19.020 so we've had
00:27:19.760 some great
00:27:20.180 conversations
00:27:20.880 I just don't
00:27:22.300 think there's
00:27:22.720 anybody that
00:27:23.300 I'm aware
00:27:23.780 of that's
00:27:24.240 ready to step
00:27:24.840 up and play
00:27:25.320 an active
00:27:25.680 role
00:27:25.940 well I mean
00:27:26.540 I suppose
00:27:27.060 it's not even
00:27:27.580 necessary
00:27:27.980 because it's
00:27:28.380 not a
00:27:28.700 political party
00:27:29.540 with a
00:27:29.840 leader
00:27:30.040 but it would
00:27:30.480 be quite
00:27:30.820 something
00:27:31.200 if a
00:27:31.540 Rennie
00:27:31.780 Levesque
00:27:32.240 emerged
00:27:33.260 from somewhere
00:27:34.480 to be
00:27:34.960 the keeper
00:27:35.940 of the foot
00:27:36.200 like Tamara
00:27:36.980 Leach emerged
00:27:37.620 during the
00:27:38.100 trucker convoy
00:27:38.820 you never
00:27:39.160 know
00:27:39.480 who's going
00:27:40.180 to come
00:27:40.460 out of
00:27:41.680 the woodwork
00:27:42.200 Rhett I
00:27:43.040 get the
00:27:43.540 feeling that
00:27:43.940 you will
00:27:44.260 have a
00:27:44.620 role one
00:27:45.040 way or
00:27:45.460 another
00:27:45.740 in the
00:27:46.760 future of
00:27:47.300 Alberta
00:27:47.640 you've
00:27:47.980 certainly
00:27:48.220 had a
00:27:48.600 role in
00:27:49.140 creating
00:27:49.520 its
00:27:49.800 present
00:27:50.320 great to
00:27:51.080 see you
00:27:51.360 thanks for
00:27:51.680 taking the
00:27:52.060 time
00:27:52.340 a quick
00:27:53.680 compliment
00:27:54.160 for landing
00:27:54.780 Tamara
00:27:55.220 on your
00:27:55.580 team
00:27:55.820 I just
00:27:56.580 I'm a
00:27:57.240 huge fan
00:27:57.680 of what
00:27:58.020 she tried
00:27:58.540 to do
00:27:58.980 I'm a
00:27:59.640 huge
00:28:00.020 opponent
00:28:01.140 of how
00:28:01.600 they were
00:28:01.960 treated
00:28:02.300 and I
00:28:03.120 admire
00:28:03.500 that she
00:28:03.920 stayed
00:28:04.280 the course
00:28:04.760 thank you
00:28:05.760 for that
00:28:06.060 I'll make
00:28:06.380 sure she
00:28:06.800 sees your
00:28:07.240 comment
00:28:07.540 and I
00:28:07.900 think she's
00:28:08.420 one of the
00:28:08.940 best people
00:28:09.360 I've ever
00:28:09.680 met
00:28:09.960 I mean
00:28:10.740 other people
00:28:11.540 would have
00:28:11.840 turned sour
00:28:12.680 the way she
00:28:14.060 was treated
00:28:14.540 she's become
00:28:15.340 even more
00:28:15.980 compassionate
00:28:17.740 enthused
00:28:18.500 anyway I'm a
00:28:19.340 super fan too
00:28:20.100 but thank you
00:28:20.580 for the compliment
00:28:21.440 and she can
00:28:21.900 play guitar
00:28:22.360 that's right
00:28:23.180 she sure
00:28:23.560 can
00:28:23.860 Brett great
00:28:24.380 to see you
00:28:24.760 thanks so
00:28:25.080 much for your
00:28:25.380 time
00:28:25.640 thanks Ezra
00:28:26.560 all right
00:28:27.100 there is
00:28:27.560 Brett Wilson
00:28:28.200 a super
00:28:29.120 Albertan
00:28:30.060 that's our
00:28:31.120 show for
00:28:31.420 today
00:28:31.760 until next
00:28:32.720 time on
00:28:33.220 behalf of all
00:28:33.780 of us here
00:28:34.220 at Rebel
00:28:34.740 World
00:28:35.200 Headquarters
00:28:35.760 to you at
00:28:36.220 home
00:28:36.420 good night
00:28:37.500 and keep
00:28:38.400 fighting for
00:28:38.940 freedom
00:28:51.440 down
00:29:07.560 you
00:29:08.180 you