EZRA LEVANT ｜ The future of the People's Party of Canada after Trudeau's reign： A special discussion with Maxime Bernier
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Maxime Bernier of the People s Party joins us for a special feature interview. We talk about his role in Canada's political system, why he's fighting to keep his name in the public eye, and why we should support him.
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Oh, hello, my rebels. You know, I'd like to check in with Maxime Bernier.
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Although I believe that Pierre Polyev and the conservatives are the only likely pragmatic
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choice to defeat Trudeau, I have a soft spot for Bernier because he's a true believer.
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But how does he fit in to a world where a lot of conservatives have decided to back
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Polyev? I'm going to ask him that question. What is his role? How does he stay relevant?
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And we're also going to talk about some of his battles. He's still fighting from the
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COVID times. That and more up next. But first, can you do me a favor and go to the website
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Here's today's show. Tonight, what's Maxime Bernier of the People's Party up to? We'll
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find out with a feature interview, and he'll have a new argument about why people should
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support him. It's September 2nd, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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The other day, I was talking about the unanimity in our different political establishments
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amongst the court system, in the political system. I remember the election debates in 2021 in the
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federal election, and you had five party leaders who were indistinguishable on the issues of the
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day. You might remember that in 2021, COVID and the brutal lockdowns and mandates and soon a no-fly
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list for anyone unjabbed. These were the hot issues of the day. And yet, the only political party leader
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that had a dissenting opinion was denied participation in the leaders' debates. I'm talking about Maxime
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Bernier, the leader of the People's Party. It's important that our political system includes
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dissidents. We know this. For example, our legal system has pros and cons, the prosecutor and the
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defendant, the plaintiff and the defendant, not just one side. We know this from our political system.
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The office of the leader of the opposition is specifically set aside for the country's
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biggest complainer. He's called the loyal opposition, because although he's loyal to the
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country, he expresses it through his opposition to the policies of the day. I think in the age of
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cancel culture, what we do to anyone who is a dissident, we try and silence them completely.
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And so it's a pleasure to catch up, as we do from time to time, with Maxime Bernier, who joins us now for
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this special feature interview. Mr. Bernier or Maxime, I mean, we've known each other for a long time.
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Great to see you again. Thanks for taking the time.
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Thank you, Ezra. I'm very pleased to be with you today.
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You know, I was just thinking back to that election debate where you would expect the
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controversies of the day to be battled over back and forth. But the only leader who actually
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dissented from the establishment narrative was you. And you weren't allowed in. You were kept out
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by the debates commission, the same people who tried to keep out rebel news.
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Why was that? Why do they not want you even to have a platform? I mean, journalists love
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controversy, you would think. But why do they want to silence you rather than engage with you?
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The liberals and the conservatives, the NDP and all these establishment political parties
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didn't want another narrative. They didn't want somebody that will challenge everything that they
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did during the COVID hysteria. And actually, I was supposed to be there because I was
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be able to participate in the national debates at our first election as a new political party in 2019.
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And for that election in 2021, the debate commission, you know, decided with the pressure
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of these establishment political parties to create a new rule for the People's Party of Canada.
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They said, you know, Bernie will need 4% of the vote. And we had the election before 1.6%.
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So that was the reason why they didn't allow me to participate in these debates. And actually,
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you're right. The narrative about COVID was the same. And everybody was saying, you know,
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that vaccine is safe and effective. Everybody were OK with the huge deficit and the spending
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to tell our people, stay at home, but we will give you money that we don't have. And by after that,
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we all know that that created inflation. So I was not part of this debate. Yes. But the good news,
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Ezra, is that the next general election in 2025, October 2025, we had 5% of the vote at the last
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election. So I will be there. I will be able to participate. And I can tell you,
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I would answer the question, but I will ask a lot of questions.
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Well, that's great. I didn't know that. Now I'm worried they're going to change the rules on you
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as they've done before. Well, listen, we were talking about something that happened three years
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ago, the 2021 debate. But the reason we're inviting you on the show today is that there was another
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institution that does not countenance dissent. And that's our justice system. Just a few days ago,
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your court case where you were a plaintiff suing the federal government to challenge the
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constitutionality of the no-fly list for unjabbed people, it was thrown out. You appealed and you
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appealed all the way to the Supreme Court of Canada, which just said, no, we're not interested
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in hearing the matter. It is moot. So even though you sued promptly in the middle of the no-fly zone,
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your lawyers moved quickly, you put your arguments forward, you brought your witnesses,
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you cross-examine theirs. When they dropped the no-fly list, the court said, oh, we don't have
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to talk about it anymore. We can evade it. I think that's inappropriate. I think that our Supreme Court
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has evaded dealing with this civil liberties bonfire. And I find it a very disappointing proof
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that not just our political system that we just talked about, but our legal system is shut out to
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anyone who dissents too. What's your take on having the door slammed in your face this week
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It was a sad day for the democracy. It was a sad day for our constitution and our charter of rights.
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But, you know, we started that early in 2022. When I'm saying we, me and Brian Petford,
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the former premier of Newfoundland, and he's the only live person that was part of that
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signature for the charter of rights, he participated in the redaction of our charter of rights.
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So I was very pleased and encouraged to sue the federal government with Brian. So we did that early
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in 2022. And we worked very hard with our lawyers because we had witnesses and we did what we must
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do. And I believe that you must remember, Ezra, at that time, we had a couple of witnesses that were
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saying, you know, all that travel ban mandate that they were telling Canadians, the federal government,
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you don't have the right to travel if you don't have the vaccine. But we had proved that the doctor
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working with the federal government and with Transport Canada said that all that was not based
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on science. And we had these witnesses in our case saying that. But the problem is the federal government
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try always to postpone and postpone and postpone that lawsuit. And in the middle of that, the government
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decided to withdraw all the restrictions. But actually, the sad things that happened at the
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first at the federal court, the judge didn't look at all the facts and the proof and the witnesses that
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we have. The judge didn't take one minute to look at all our witness and our counter, our experts,
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where they were saying the judge told us, you know, I didn't look at that because now, you know,
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these restrictions are not enforced. So that's moot. And that's it. And we were very not happy with
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that decision. We appealed that decision at the federal court of appeal. And the federal court of
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appeal said, no, everything is OK. You know, the judge did the good thing, looking at saying that it was
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moot. So they didn't want the federal court and the appeal court, federal appeal court, didn't want to
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look at the case based on facts. And so we said, let's go to the Supreme Court. And we just had that
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decision last week. And it's the same thing. So we have a charter of rights, but our court and it's a lot of
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cases, not only our case, but a lot of cases, the court decided not to look at what happened to us
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Canadians during that time by applying the charter of rights. They didn't they they find always excuses
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to not look at that and not look at our case or other cases and not not give a decision based on our
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charter of rights. They were saying, oh, it's mute or other fake arguments. So that's very discouraging.
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The court was not there to protect our civil liberties. You're so right. I spoke with one of
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the lawyers on the file the other day. And, you know, it's just so disappointing that the court
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couldn't be bothered. The U.S. Supreme Court weighed in on these restrictions within months.
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It was very quick. And our Supreme Court has not yet actually heard a case emanating from the
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lockdowns. And I think that that's disgraceful. And I think that they have lost some of their
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reputation. I was just making a little list who lost their reputation during the civil liberties
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bonfire the last four years. The media, definitely politicians, the health authorities. I don't think
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people trust health officers or pharmaceutical companies or even some doctors as much anymore.
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And what you've described and what we've seen in other cases, I think the courts have burned up
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their credibility. I think almost every single institution has less public trust today than it
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You're absolutely right, Ezra. And I have another example of that. You know, I was a witness in a case,
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in another case, for a rally that I did in Manitoba. And so we decided to appeal a decision because we
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receive a ticket. And when I was a witness there, I was in that court. And I can tell you judges and
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all these, the judge that was there, and they are woke. They are leftist. Before speaking, before giving my
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testimony, they asked me, can you decline your name? I said, yes. My name is Maxime Bernier. Can you spell
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your name? I said, yes. M-A-X-I-M-E-B-E-R-N-I-E-R. Can you decline your pronouns? I was so mad. I was,
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that's the reality is, I was so mad. I said to the judge, look at me. I'm a man and I won't decline
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any pronouns. That's, that's the court today all across the country. They're woke, they're leftist,
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and they don't bother about our constitution. That's crazy. Oh my God. You know what? I would
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have been tempted to say something a little bit more rude than you did, but good for you for
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standing control. You know, um, a lot of the reverberations will continue in society, but the
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court cases are coming to a close with the Supreme Court refusing to hear your case.
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That's the end of that. There's a few more truckers that are finishing up. Tamara Leach
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has, I think, one more day of hearings in her very long trial. The Coots truckers are,
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have all been through their trial and now they're in their sentencing phase. And Arthur Pawlowski has
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his appeal in Calgary in about two weeks, but each of those things feels like it's sort of coming to
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an end. And I don't think that many of them are satisfactory ends, although I'm very hopeful for
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Tamara Leach, but I think the country has moved on and there's other issues. And I think the number
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one issue in Canada now, well, if you ask people, I think they would probably say cost of living,
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cost of rent, cost of food, inflation. But if you just push one ounce harder and say, why?
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I think a lot of people will say immigration, mass immigration, unvetted immigration, unqualified
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immigration, in some ways, culturally inappropriate immigration. In many cases, fraudulent immigration.
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I think people are stunned when they learn we have a million foreign students here. And most of them
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are just in fake degrees. Three quarters of a million foreign workers. You were on the immigration
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issue when it was very dangerous to say so. People would call you racist, even for talking about it.
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What's changed? Why is it now slowly becoming respectable for people to say the things that
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You're right, Ezra. When we created the People's Party in Canada in 2018 and our first election in
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2019, immigration was part of our platform. And I was saying, you know, we want to lower the number
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of immigrants that are coming to Canada, fewer immigrants. And we were used to have that discussion
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in Quebec because, as you know, Quebec wants to keep their culture. And, you know, in every
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provincial election in Quebec, you have that discussion, your party will say, you know,
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maximum of 50,000, another one, 20,000. But nobody will say, oh, you're racist because of that.
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No, it's a question of a discussion about the level of immigration that you want. So the debate
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is important all across the country. And we started that debate. And that was very, very difficult
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because, yes, some people were saying that we were racist because we were raising that subject.
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And at that time, it was a taboo subject. But when we created the PPC, I said, there's no taboo
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subject for us. And, you know, I'm saying no to the political correctness. I'm speaking about the
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facts and the truth and about the vision that we have for this country. And immigration was important
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at that time. It is even more important today to have a discussion about that. But I'm pleased to say,
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to be able to see the shape of the public opinion. And, you know, you have in the newspaper,
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in the mainstream media, maybe every week, something about immigration, what is happening
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in our country. So, but they won't speak about the People's Party. They won't say that we were the
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first political party to fight and still the only one to fight to have, you know, a moratorium on
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immigration. But I believe that because, you know, what is happening in Europe, what is happening also
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in the UK and everything that you did, Ezra, with, you know, you were there and you are bringing that
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to Canadians. In UK, it's like Canada, but there may be a little bit more in advance. They have
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multiculturalism and they have open borders policy. We have the same thing here. And people
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understand now what is happening, you know, all culture are not equal. And when you have people
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coming from the third world, you are bringing that culture and Canada will become a third world
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country. You know, we need to stop that. We need to have a discussion about that. And we will speak
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about that again at the next general election. But because of and also the housing crisis that is
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there, people realize right now that the real solution to solve the housing crisis is to have a
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moratorium on immigration. We cannot build all the houses that we need just to be able to
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insert the demand coming from immigration. You know, that was Poliev who said, Ezra, we built
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about 240,000 homes last year, but we need to build 700,000 houses every year just to meet the demand.
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We won't be able to do that. That's not the solution. That's not the real and immediate solution.
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The real solution that is under the jurisdiction of the federal government is to have a moratorium on
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immigration. And more people understand because that's having an impact on the, you know,
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people are not able to buy a house first and also renting an apartment in the big cities in
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Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver. It's very expensive. Our standard of living is going down. We have more
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people that are coming to the country, but, you know, the liberals are saying, oh, it's good for
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the economy. It's always, it's always the argument. It's good for the economy. Yes, the GDP is growing,
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Ezra, but we have more people. And so what is happening? The pie is bigger, but our piece of the
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pie is smarter. The GDP per capita is smarter. We are poor as individual because of mass immigration.
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And more people understand that now. Yeah. It's interesting. You mentioned the province of
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Quebec. A few days ago, the premier of Quebec, Francois Legault, said that if the temporary
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foreign workers left, there would be 300,000 fewer foreign people. And that would immediately
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So, only two years, we have passed from 300,000 immigrants temporaires to 600,000 immigrants
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temporaires. So, we see a real explosion of the number of immigrants temporaires. It's not
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anything. In two years, ajouter 300,000 immigrants, it makes a huge pressure on the public services,
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whether it's education, health, or all the public services publics. It makes a huge pressure on the
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logement. If you have a little calculation, 300,000 people in two years, it's more than 100,000
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logements. We are not able to build 100,000 logements. If tomorrow morning, these 300,000 people
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were not there. There would not be any crisis in the logement. I repeat that. And I know that it's
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I think he's right mathematically. To give him credit, Quebec leaders have always been a little
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tougher on immigration than other leaders. I think he's normalizing an idea that until about
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five minutes ago was not just taboo, you would be called racist, which is deporting people. I mean,
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it's one thing for people to come over here, but when their visa expires or when they're found to be a
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criminal or when they're found to be a bogus refugee, the idea of actually getting people to
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go home, that is still so controversial. I've really never heard anyone in Canada talk about it,
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but if we have a million foreign students and 750,000 temporary foreign workers, they're going to
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have to go home. And I guess you could call that deporting or inviting people to self-deport or paying
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them to get out. But I don't know if the Canadian political class has the stomach to do what has to be
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done. I don't think so. I said it, and it's part of our platform. We need to deport the illegals.
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And actually, when you have a student visa, usually, you know, after you study, when you have your
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diploma, you go back to your home and there's no, you know, it's normal to do that. You came in Canada
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to be able to study. And after that, you go back to your country. But all with these fake students
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coming from India, sorry, but that's the reality. More of them, the majority of them are coming from
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India. And, you know, that's a kind of a fraud because we tell them, you know, come in under the
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student international visa. And after that, you'll be able to apply for a permanent residency.
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But that's not the case. After your study, you have to go back. And I said it, we will need to
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deport them. But now Trudeau and Poliev are looking to give them a permanent residency. You know, when
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you cheat and when you don't respect our legislation, why the government will give them, you know, a gift
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by giving them a permanent residency? No, you cheated. You suppose your permit has expired. You have to go
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home. If you don't go home, we will need to deport you. And that's the basic logic. If you want to
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respect ourselves as a country, we must speak about it and do it. But they're too afraid. Poliev and
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Trudeau, they're too afraid to speak about that. They don't want their pandering to these ethnic
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communities. They want vote. They want to have more support. They want to win the election. But when
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they're doing that, they're not working for all Canadians.
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You know, there's a lot of different categories of immigrant students. I can't believe there's a
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million of them. That's more than the number of Canadian university students. But they're not real
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universities. They're not at McGill or UBC. Some of them are. But most of them are sort of fake,
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you know, acumen college. Like they're diploma mills is what they're sometimes called.
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The foreign workers are, we're subsidizing McDonald's and Tim Hortons, which are billion
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dollar companies. Why are we subsidizing them and making it hard for young Canadians to find jobs?
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But there is a category called refugee. And these are people who don't claim to be students.
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They don't claim to be workers. They're just saying life is really bad for me. I'm in danger back home.
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So let me in for free. But I just saw the other day, the ranking of countries for asylum,
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like refugee claims. Number one is India. Number two is Bangladesh. Number three is Nigeria.
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And number four is Mexico. India is the world's largest democracy. I mean,
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I wouldn't want to live there myself necessarily, but it's not particularly dangerous. I don't know
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much about Bangladesh. Mexico is a vacation spot. I mean, again, they've got some drug cartels,
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but I don't know why we're even pretending that these are refugees and none of them can come
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directly to Canada. By the way, they always came through a second place first. I don't know. I just,
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I feel like that's the worst because everyone knows they're, they're tricksters. Everyone knows
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they're bogus. Everyone knows they're taking advantage of us. I think that really drives people
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to hate refugees because people see they're fake. What do you think? Yeah. But actually, you know,
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we have two new Roxham roads in Canada, the Montreal airport and the Toronto Pearson International
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Airport. Right. So what is happening? Trudeau, two years ago, decided to change the rules for a person
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living in India or another country to be able to come to Canada as a tourist, as a visitor. Usually,
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you had to prove to the embassy over there that you have enough money to pay for your tickets. You have
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enough money to spend in Canada during your time that you'll be there as a tourist and you have
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enough money to go back. That was a very important criteria. And after that, the embassy over there will
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give you a permit just to come to visit Canada. And after that, you go back to your country. But they
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change that. They don't ask that anymore. So what is happening? They apply as tourists and they don't
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ask them if they have enough money to stay in Canada. That's not part of the questionnaire anymore.
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So they're coming in Montreal airport and Toronto person. And when they're there, they said, oh,
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I'm not a tourist anymore. I'm a refugee. So that's why, you know, we have a new Roxham road,
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Montreal airport and Toronto airport. And that's because of Trudeau. They changed the regulations.
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They're not refugees. Absolutely. You're absolutely right, Ezra. You know, I was over in Ireland and
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there's different kinds of refugees there. I mean, believe it or not, there's Ukrainian families.
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Ireland has about 5 million people in it. They accepted 100,000 Ukrainians, which is a huge number.
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That would be almost like a million in Canada. But I couldn't find any Irish people who said they
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were really opposed to them. I'm just saying what I heard. And they said that they generally fit in.
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They're generally law abiding. But I think more than that, people realize they really are coming
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from a war zone. Now, you might say, why aren't the men back there fighting? But people would say,
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yeah, you're from a war zone. Yeah, there's women and children here too. And you're sort of fitting in.
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Like, I was in one small community where the Ukrainian kids were going to school with the Irish kids
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and it seemed to work. But what the Irish, who were fine with the Ukrainians, and I don't think it was a race
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thing, although there was a bit of an English, sort of a language and cultural fit, a little bit more.
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What drove them crazy was when single, military-aged men from Somalia, from Afghanistan,
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from one guy told me he was from Palestine, from Pakistan, single guys saying, I'm a refugee.
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And there's like a hundred of these men coming over together. And they're coming into Ireland from
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Northern Ireland, which is part of the United Kingdom, if you recall. So everyone knows they're
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not coming directly from a war zone. Everyone knows that they ripped up their ID. And everyone
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feels taken advantage of in a way that they didn't with the Ukrainians. Not everyone loves the fact
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there's a hundred thousand Ukrainians in Ireland, but at least they say, okay, their families from
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a war zone. Every single person I met in Ireland said that the reason they oppose the refugees is
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because they all know it's all a lie. And people are going along with the lie. Why are we going along
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with the lie here in Canada? We must not. And we must help the real refugees. And I'm thinking
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about, you know, the Christian in Muslim country, you know, we, we must, we must do that. But now all
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these people are not refugees and we can, we cannot save the world. And we, you know, these politicians
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who are permitting that, and they're not working for Canadians. It's morally, it's not moral to do that.
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If you're a politician, your main job is to work for your people. Now they try to save the world and they
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want to give a better chance to these fake refugees. When we are in the beginning of an economic crisis,
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inflation is at the roof and, you know, our center of living is going down. We must focus and put
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I want to ask you a political question because you and I have known each other even before you were an MP
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and you were in the Montreal Economic Institute. Then you were with the Harper government. Now you're the
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leader of the People's Party. And, and I know you've had a libertarian freedom oriented point of view for
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decades. Yeah. I've also known Pierre Polyev for decades too. In fact, we both sort of grew up in Calgary at the
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same time. Believe it or not, when I ran for office very briefly, uh, he was my
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communications director in my, in my by-election campaign about 20 years ago. It's a little
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anecdote for you. And I know that he's, he's said and believed conservative things for a long time.
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I think both of you have, um, before Pierre Polyev was the leader of the conservative party,
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you had Andrew Scheer and Aaron O'Toole, both of whom had tremendous weaknesses, both ideologically
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and politically. They didn't, they were not winners and they had no chance of winning. And I think people
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were so appalled by how Aaron O'Toole rebuffed the truckers that I think you were there saying, look, I
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believe in freedom. I've been in government, come to the People's Party, we're what the conservatives
00:30:02.840
should have been. But over the last year, especially Pierre Polyev seems to have consolidated
00:30:10.200
the right of center vote. He's at 40%, 43% in the polls. He's starting very gently to talk about
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immigration. He talks a pretty good game on CBC, I'll tell you. And I think some people who before
00:30:26.560
were for PPC are saying, you know what, the PPC is better, it's more purist, it's more idealistic,
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but Polyev has a real chance to win. And because of our first past the post system,
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it's unlikely a PPC candidate could win. For example, there's a couple of by-elections coming
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up very soon, one in Quebec, one in Manitoba. What would you say, like a lot of our, talk directly
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to our viewers. Don't even talk to me now, Maxime. A lot of our Rebel News viewers have a deep
00:30:57.680
affection for you. They remember that you were the only one standing with them during the lockdowns,
00:31:02.780
during the pandemic. In fact, you were charged with a crime for it. So our people have an affectionate
00:31:07.960
love for you, but that's their heart. But their head also says, well, Polyev can win. Speak directly
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to our viewers and tell them your case. It's all the argument about spitting the vote. Oh,
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you know, Maxime, I like you. I like your ideas. I like your party. You were with us. But we need
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to get rid of Trudeau and you won't be prime minister tomorrow. So I cannot vote for you.
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That's the argument. And I must admit, Ezra, and people are telling me that in my face sometimes.
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So, but the good news now, there's a good news. You just said it. Polyev will win. Trudeau won't
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be able to win. Look at the poll. And he may have one of the biggest majority in the history of this
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country. You know, Trudeau won't be able. Everything that he's doing, it's doing everything for Polyev
00:32:00.500
being able to beat him. So if you look at the polls and if you believe at the polls, you know,
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now you can vote for your value. Now you can vote for what you believe. Now you can vote for what
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you want. If you vote for what you want, you have a better chance to have what you want. So Polyev
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will win. He will have a majority. But we need to be there. The PPC need to be there to keep Polyev
00:32:26.180
honest, to keep him in the right direction. And so, you know, you said it, Polyev is looking in the
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center, center-right, center-left sometimes. And he'll do compromise to be able to have the support
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of different ethnic communities. But he's taking the vote coming from the West for granted. And
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actually, we are not. We are speaking about the real issue. You need our voice in Ottawa. I need your
00:32:52.620
vote, but you need our support in Ottawa. And voting for the PPC, it's a vote for you. It's a vote for the
00:33:00.020
country. And we will support Polyev when he'll be a conservative, for sure. But we will shame him
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when he won't be. So look, people, you had Stephen Harper. I was with him in 2006. We had a minority
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government. 2008, a minority government. 2011, a majority national government. So I said to myself at
00:33:22.900
that time, we'll be real conservative. What is the legacy of Stephen Harper after a majority?
00:33:29.060
Niet. He dismantled the wheat board. That's it. There's no legacy with Stephen Harper. He didn't
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change the equalization formula. You know, he did the biggest deficit in the history of our country
00:33:43.760
at that time. Harper was a good manager of a big, fat, interventionist government. So if you want real
00:33:52.320
reform, you need to put your vote for what you want. And we will push Polyev in the right direction.
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You know, it took seven times for Nigel in UK to be able to be elected. I'm not telling you that it
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will take for me seven times, but that the next election, that will be my third one. And we'll see.
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But we need to move the public opinion on our side. And the more people who speak about the PPC,
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the more people will be able to convince. And Polyev is a follower, is following the public opinion.
00:34:29.160
And if we have a strong support from five to 10 percent, Polyev will look at that support as a
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government and he will have to act a little bit. So that's why people need to vote in line with their
00:34:41.140
values if they want to have bold changes in this country. Very interesting. That's the first time
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I've heard you make this particular case to keep Polyev's Conservatives honest. That's very
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interesting. And I'm very glad I asked you that question. It's a kind of an insurance policy
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for the Conservative voters that they will have a better Conservative government.
00:35:06.960
In a way, that's the mission of Rebel News. When there was a Conservative Premier in Alberta,
00:35:12.740
Jason Kenney, Conservative Premier in Ontario, we criticize in good faith from the right. In fact,
00:35:18.880
we were quite critical of Jason Kenney. So that's an interesting... I mean, of course,
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we're not competitive with politicians, but what is our role when there's a powerful Conservative
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to hold them honest? Maxine Bernier, it's great to catch up with you. Thanks for taking the time.
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I'm sorry the Supreme Court denied you your day in court. I think that's atrocious. But it sounds
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like you have no plans to stop fighting for freedom. So I appreciate you sharing with us
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your messages today. Great to see you. Thank you, Ezra. Have a nice day. I sure will. There you
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have it, Maxine Bernier, the leader of the People's Party of Canada. That's our show for today.
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Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,