Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ The liberal meltdown over Trump's Twitter return is incredible ... and he hasn't even tweeted yet!

00:00:00.400 Hello, my friends. It's great to be back in the chair today. I'm sorry I was away a few

00:00:03.680 days last week. I'm going to go deep on the subject of Twitter banning conservatives and

00:00:09.720 then reinstating some of those conservatives. We'll have a feature-length conversation with

00:00:13.700 Dr. James Lindsay. I really like this guy. We've talked to him a few times before. Really

00:00:18.020 smart, really goes deep into the intellectual history behind wokeism. I won't try and explain

00:00:26.480 who he is. I'll just get straight to the conversation. I think you'll get a kick out

00:00:29.400 of it. We talk about everything from Donald Trump to the midterm elections to Elon Musk

00:00:38.220 and why the phrase OK Groomer was banned by Twitter. That's ahead. But first, let me invite

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00:01:00.020 take any money from the government. All right. Here's today's podcast.

00:01:03.320 Tonight, Elon Musk reinstates many banned conservatives on Twitter.com. We'll talk to Dr. James Lindsay,

00:01:25.040 who was sent to a cyber, a Siberia. It's November 21st. And this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:32.760 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:46.640 Hey, great to see you again. I'm sorry I was away a few days last week. I couldn't avoid it. But, 0.55

00:01:50.500 you know, I got right back into it on the weekend. I don't know if you know this, but in the greater

00:01:54.300 Toronto area, we had something called Rebel News Live. We used to do these a lot in the before times.

00:02:00.200 We had over 750 people buying tickets for a day-long Rebel News conference. Now, some of those tickets

00:02:08.340 were virtual tickets where people could join online and Zoom. But we had about 500 people

00:02:13.060 in the room physically, which is a great pleasure. Because if you're like me, you're still remembering

00:02:18.860 what it's like to go to conferences and meet with lots of people after we were atomized and forced

00:02:23.700 apart from each other. It was great. And all your favorite Rebel News personalities gave talks and

00:02:29.540 took questions, but also interesting newsmakers, too. Two of my favorites included Arthur Pavlovsky,

00:02:35.640 the Alberta pastor who was jailed. And speaking of political prisoners, Tamara Leach, the trucker,

00:02:41.780 spiritual leader, I'm going to call her, was there, too. It was a wonderful event. Other

00:02:46.340 great speakers, including our friend Palminder Singh, who also came to prominence during the

00:02:51.300 trucker convoy. Just a great time was had by all. Now, that was in the Toronto area. We are doing it

00:02:56.840 again this coming weekend in Calgary. There are still tickets available. Go to rebelnewslive.com.

00:03:07.000 And there's different tickets if you want to come for the whole day, if you want to add on a VIP dinner

00:03:12.220 with the guests afterwards. That's pretty fun. Or you can join by Zoom if you're not able to make

00:03:17.520 it to the Calgary location. Of course, we'll serve breakfast and lunch. You know, we will because

00:03:21.980 we're always hungry for knowledge and hungry for snacks. So it's been a busy time at Rebel News.

00:03:28.760 But in the back of my mind, and by the way, today the trucker commission, holy mackerel, I was watching

00:03:34.460 Sheila Gunn-Reed's live tweeting. Senior government officials were there, including Bill Blair. Very

00:03:40.140 soon, Justin Trudeau himself will take the stand. One of the things we saw today was how this false

00:03:47.140 allegations, this literal government disinformation about the truckers being violent extremists was

00:03:53.100 planted in the media by the government. They were colluding with journalists like Rachel Gilmore and

00:04:00.020 Glenn McGregor. Just absolutely atrocious. We always sensed it in our bones, but the truth came out

00:04:05.740 today. I'm so proud of our team in Ottawa. You can follow them at truckercommission.com. As you know,

00:04:11.240 we've rented an Airbnb in that city that we've turned into a TV studio. I'm glad Sheila was down

00:04:16.340 there on this very important day. So we're doing lots of stuff in Canada, but in the back of my mind

00:04:21.300 is twitter.com. Recently bought and turned private by Elon Musk. And he is following through and he is

00:04:28.580 allowing some formerly censored voices to come back. The most important, of course,

00:04:34.000 being Donald Trump. Elon Musk put up a Twitter poll. 15 million people voted in a day. And it was

00:04:42.340 close, 52 to 48. But he claimed it was that poll that made him say, Vox Populi, Vox Dei. That's Latin

00:04:51.140 for the voice of the people is the voice of God. And with that, he reinstated Donald Trump's tweets. Now,

00:04:55.940 Trump himself has not yet availed himself of that. You may recall after Donald Trump was banned from

00:05:02.340 Twitter, which was outrageous. He was a sitting U.S. president, banned from Twitter. The Ayatollahs 0.99

00:05:06.700 of Iran, the communist leaders of China, they're on Twitter, but not the American president. It was

00:05:10.900 deeply disturbing. In fact, other countries around the world, including Angela Merkel, who was the

00:05:15.480 leader of Germany at the time, and the president of Mexico. Neither of them were fans of Trump. But both

00:05:21.820 of those leaders in particular said it is a dangerous thing when woke bureaucrats in Silicon

00:05:27.820 Valley can simply wave the wand and silence the leader of a sovereign country. Very interesting.

00:05:34.260 Trump has not yet tweeted yet. I hope he will. It would be absurd if he didn't. If you had 100 million

00:05:39.320 viewers who were tuned into you, you'd be foolish not to use that. Trump used social media to great

00:05:45.040 effect in 2016. We'll see if he returns to it. But interesting to me, is the reaction by the

00:05:53.760 liberals. Just incredible. Here is one of the regular talk shows. I think this was on Face the

00:05:59.460 Nation yesterday, saying, oh, you know, this election, this vote on Donald Trump, it was rigged

00:06:05.160 by the Russians. Take a look at this. Just hilarious.

00:06:07.420 So I think these polls are mostly a gimmick. And I would argue the people haven't spoken.

00:06:11.920 The GRU has spoken. These Twitter has become... Russian intelligence, you mean?

00:06:16.880 A hundred percent. Twitter has become a playground for bad actors and fake bots.

00:06:21.040 This poll is meaningless. This decision is meaningless. No evidence provided, of course. But

00:06:26.240 I guess a Twitter poll, you can say, is rigged by the Russians. You're just not allowed to say

00:06:30.500 that Joe Biden's win was rigged by anyone. Anyhow, I want to tell you that today we're going to speak

00:06:38.200 with a political pundit, scholar, public intellectual on the right, Dr. James Lindsay. We've spoken with

00:06:44.260 him before. I really like talking with him. He's really smart. And he was one of those banned in the

00:06:51.960 last year by the Twitter censors. And he has now been unbanned. I wanted to show you two photos side by

00:06:59.620 side. Here's a picture of Twitter staff in the time before Elon Musk bought the company.

00:07:10.180 And here's a picture of Twitter staff now. I think they have fewer, you know, touchy-feely

00:07:15.420 censorship activists and a lot more rock-hard engineers. At least that's what it looks like.

00:07:21.980 I got to play this video for you again. This is a day in the life of a Twitter manager. I'm not

00:07:27.860 kidding. This is real. This was uploaded to TikTok by a Twitter worker. You can see what kind of place

00:07:37.520 it was. It was not about tech. It was not about computer science. It was about democratic politics.

00:07:41.980 Just take a quick look at this.

00:07:44.120 Hey guys, come to work with me at Twitter and Atlanta. This was my first time going into the

00:07:48.420 office in such a long time, but it was nice to have a change of scenery from my apartment.

00:07:52.780 Look at my co-worker, Brie. She's so cute. For lunch, we decided to go downstairs to Bar Vegan. If you

00:07:57.400 haven't tried it before, it's a black-owned restaurant inside of Ponce Market. We ordered the

00:08:01.680 quesadillas with tots and then also got a fancy pants cocktail and they were all really good. So I'll

00:08:06.420 definitely be back. After lunch, we came back upstairs to an extremely empty office, but

00:08:12.080 honestly, we were just so proud of our productivity. After work, we went back downstairs to Monero's

00:08:17.460 to reward ourselves with some after-work margaritas. We stated happy hour until around 7 p.m. and

00:08:23.320 then I finally headed home to enjoy a well-deserved bubble bath. Bye guys.

00:08:29.000 It's easy to see why our next guest was banned by the likes of that Twitter worker who I presume

00:08:34.780 is no longer there. So when we come back, a feature conversation with Dr. James Lindsay.

00:08:52.440 You know, we have an enormous social media account on youtube.com. In fact, until Global News bought

00:08:58.900 artificial subscribers, we were the largest news channel in Canada on that forum. We lost

00:09:07.160 our monetization. That is, they refused to sell ads on it and they de-boosted us. They pushed us down

00:09:14.680 their search rankings for a sin. Now, we didn't do anything illegal. We didn't publish any gratuitous

00:09:20.040 violence or any obscenity. We certainly broke no law, but we violated their interpretation of their

00:09:27.380 community guidelines. What did it was we showed a brief clip of President Donald Trump in an official

00:09:35.020 video released by his office talking about the January 6th so-called insurrection. We didn't show

00:09:41.880 it to endorse it or to cheer for it, but rather to document it as a prosecutor might put a piece of

00:09:48.140 evidence to a jury. Here's what Trump said. Here's what they said. Here's what they said. But merely for

00:09:53.720 showing that video, and not endorsing it, but just showing it as a historical artifact, an official

00:10:00.380 communication by the President of the United States, the hall monitors of YouTube use that as the

00:10:07.620 justification to rip out about a million dollars a year from Rebel News, and they have never given it

00:10:13.900 back to us since. I tell you that because that obviously violated no norm in a liberal democratic

00:10:21.420 society. Rather, it violated the political tastes of the tastemakers who now dominate these big tech

00:10:30.180 companies. Once upon a time, a long time ago, they were basically run by nerdy guys who loved computer

00:10:38.300 science. It was, I suppose, like NASA was in the 1960s, but that's not NASA today, and that's not big tech

00:10:46.160 today. As I showed you earlier, Twitter is the home of woke millennial women, and they're not there to 0.99

00:10:54.460 do computer programming, at least not in the main. They're there to say what you can and can't say about

00:10:59.120 transgenderism, to say what you can and can't say about the election in 2020. Was it reliable or not?

00:11:08.120 And that's how we ourselves were demonetized. And I tell you this because our next guest

00:11:12.620 was canceled on Twitter. His account was suspended for what? Was he doing something atrocious like

00:11:21.340 promoting child pornography? No, in fact, he was doing the opposite. He was condemning

00:11:28.360 what he called child groomers, which is adults who target young children of tender years to sexualize

00:11:36.260 them. And by calling them groomers, which is standard parlance for that tactic, he was suspended from

00:11:46.980 Twitter for being against child pornography. Well, Dr. James Lindsay was reinstated on Twitter yesterday,

00:11:55.880 shortly after Elon Musk reacquired the company and took it private. And joining us now via Skype

00:12:01.860 from Tennessee is Dr. James Lindsay. He's a scholar and the head of the New Discourses Institute.

00:12:09.660 What a pleasure to have you back on the show. We love having you. We always get into the good stuff,

00:12:13.500 you and I. I'm really grateful for your time and your smarts. But today I want to talk about you and

00:12:17.860 your story a little bit and what it can teach us about Twitter and the censorship they're in. And if

00:12:24.520 Elon Musk is to be trusted even just a little bit, I'm delighted that you're back on and able to

00:12:30.060 communicate in that public forum. Well, I don't know if I'm delighted yet or not. It feels a bit

00:12:35.340 like I got kicked out of an insane asylum and now I've been let back in and a little hesitant to go

00:12:41.800 back, but all my friends are there. So I don't really know what to think about that. But, you know,

00:12:46.160 I do think it will be effective. I unfortunately did notice some drop in my effectiveness, which I had

00:12:52.780 hoped would not be the case. I think somebody told me that I was exiled from Twitter land for

00:12:59.580 something like 105 or something, 106 days or something. And unfortunately, that was long

00:13:05.200 enough to notice a dip in my reach. And so it's good to get back for professional reasons, at least.

00:13:12.880 Well, and that's the thing. And to hear the language of the left and the media party, as I call it,

00:13:20.060 or I'm calling it the regime media in Canada now because we're learning how they colluded with

00:13:25.240 Trudeau in in the martial law imposition. It's really shocking to hear how they squawk when they

00:13:33.120 leave Twitter and try and create a new colony on on rival social media platforms like one's called

00:13:40.660 Mastodon. And I've got nothing against these rival sites. It's just to see them ache at losing their

00:13:46.520 social status and their social connection and their audience. That pain, which is which is true.

00:13:51.800 It's what you just described, how you lost your social status and your connections.

00:13:56.600 They were punishing wrong thinkers with a kind of intellectual exile. You say you were exiled from

00:14:03.640 the insane asylum. And I take your point because Twitter can be rambunctious and it can be addictive

00:14:07.620 and it can be a time waster and there's a lot of garbage on there. But it is. But that's just a 0.98

00:14:12.620 reflection of people. And you were really banned from people who talk and think and watch and observe

00:14:18.260 and comment. And and that is like if you were a factory worker, it really would make no difference

00:14:22.660 to your life. But you're a you're a dealer in ideas. You're in the intellectual trades.

00:14:27.180 And for you to be banned from the public square, it really it is an attack on who you are.

00:14:32.600 I'm not trying to build you up. I'm just saying Twitter is the public square, like it or not.

00:14:36.940 And and that is why they wanted to they wanted to banish you from life. They wanted to send you to

00:14:42.360 Siberia. They really did. I mean, I do get that. As a matter of fact, I reflected a number of times

00:14:47.880 and no one can can quite copy the eloquence of Christopher Hitchens. But before he died,

00:14:52.660 he obviously wrote quite a bit famously about mortality. And he said that with death, it's it's

00:14:58.000 not so much that the party will end, but more that it most assuredly will go on without you in it.

00:15:04.000 And it definitely felt like there was a that I had been exiled from the ability to participate

00:15:08.540 in this kind of rambunctious and kind of Wild West center of discourse. And it is, in a sense,

00:15:15.800 at least, you know, the world's newsstand, but also a center of dialogue. I also look upon this

00:15:23.800 phenomenon of the the left leaning matriculation off of Twitter to other social media with a bit of

00:15:30.240 amusement. I watched a number of of the large accounts yesterday kvetching that they get sent

00:15:36.580 that they've sent themselves off to these other platforms and bless them. And they've gone and

00:15:41.200 tried to transform them there. You know, it needs content moderation. And this is all these

00:15:45.180 problematics. And we need to do this and that. And the CEOs are coming out and saying, if you want

00:15:49.540 to change it to Twitter, go complain to Elon, then I can't help but laugh. But yeah, it's it you can

00:15:56.420 see with both sides of this, then that unfortunately, maybe or maybe it's fortunate, I don't know,

00:16:02.180 these large tech platforms have truly become something like where the public dynamic takes

00:16:07.120 place. And so it is in a very significant sense, almost a digital gulag. And you know, I've done

00:16:13.140 some recordings talking about what they could do with digital gulags with algorithms, kind of a direct

00:16:17.200 application of reeducation through social credit systems or whatever else. But there's also this other

00:16:23.120 aspect of having been removed. It's like a negative gulag, you've been removed from society in order

00:16:27.980 to teach you a lesson. And while Twitter isn't exactly, you know, the best place on earth, there's

00:16:34.000 still that sense. It's also weird to read eulogies for myself. So people perceive it as a kind of social

00:16:38.780 death, but I read several of those. Huh. You know, I spoke to our handler at YouTube, obviously, as they

00:16:48.680 took us through the marginalization and denormalization process. And I asked a question,

00:16:57.740 it was our handler at Twitter that I asked this question. I asked, is there any redemption for

00:17:02.920 people who have been suspended? I was thinking of Alex Jones. Is, but for anyone who has a permanent

00:17:10.540 ban? Because the left, liberals, the woke folks, they don't believe in lifetime bans for anything,

00:17:16.600 for actual real murder. They don't believe in a life sentence. They believe in parole. You could

00:17:23.160 look at that in a Christian light and say they believe that there's a possibility for people to

00:17:27.740 see the light and repent and redeem themselves. And I think we all want to believe that someone who's

00:17:35.340 wrong can become right. But these social media punishments were all life sentences with no

00:17:42.980 appeal. And they were often secret decisions too, like a star chamber. I don't know. I find that

00:17:49.100 quite something that they were so harsh in dealing with anyone who made word sins. Because isn't that

00:17:57.020 the worst crime you can make? Murder, they'll excuse. They have sanctuary cities for murderers. But

00:18:02.780 anyone who has a thought crime like the one you committed, calling out adults who target children

00:18:08.220 sexually as groomers, simply for using that word, which is not a controversial term, frankly. Your 0.70

00:18:13.700 word crime was deserving a life sentence, a life banishment to Siberia. These people would have

00:18:20.920 been absolutely at home in the Soviet Union or in the East German secret police, the Stasi.

00:18:29.960 They really would. I mean, it's in all of us. We like to think that maybe we're morally or

00:18:34.500 genetically even different than the generation of Nazis, but we're flesh and bone. In fact,

00:18:40.880 I think the kind of compliance and snitch culture that arose during the lockdowns reminds us that,

00:18:47.680 God forbid, if we were living under Nazi Germany, there would be plenty of our friends and neighbors 1.00

00:18:51.700 and academics and police and politicians who would eagerly volunteer to be enforcers.

00:18:56.080 Like, I really think that the kind of people who would be drawn to be a censor in social media

00:19:03.460 would be the kind of people who were drawn to join the Stasi or the SS or the KGB or the FSB. I really

00:19:10.540 do think so. And I'm not exaggerating. I'm not stretching. I'm saying it's that psychology of

00:19:16.420 authoritarian control over people you don't like. Yeah, well, I think that if we might allow to get a

00:19:23.580 little nerdy for the moment, as you know, I recognize this so-called woke movement, which we

00:19:28.540 could characterize all of this within as being, you know, a new manifestation of communism under kind

00:19:34.940 of revamped, you know, neo-Marxist or critical Marxist theory. And if you read the literature in

00:19:41.280 communism, they're very, very clear that what the people means, everything's supposed to be for the

00:19:46.800 people on the side of the people to see from the people's standpoint. But it's very, very clear that

00:19:51.540 what they mean by the people are the people who agree with them. And no one else quite qualifies

00:19:55.460 as personhood. And so that impulse, that authoritarian impulse, I actually am now the

00:19:59.980 research that I'm engaging in now, is starting to point me to conclude that what that comes from

00:20:05.340 is, in fact, something far older than communism, something far further back in history than Karl

00:20:10.900 Marx or Hegel or Oettinger or any of these kind of German philosophers, if you will, that came up with

00:20:18.020 this stuff that we're dealing with today in the modern era, at the end of the modern era.

00:20:22.300 It is, in fact, an ancient religion known as Gnosticism. And the Gnostics are literally elevated 0.99

00:20:27.740 above other people. They have the correct consciousness, and they therefore have the

00:20:32.120 capacity to determine who counts as a person and who doesn't, who can get away with crimes because

00:20:38.480 they get special permission, and who has to be punished. And as you pointed out, they're

00:20:43.300 particularly sensitive because what they're doing is playing word games about being beaten at word

00:20:48.800 games. And so they understand that there's much power in language. And I, in fact, didn't get

00:20:53.320 canceled from Twitter, just as a small point of fact, for using the word groomer specifically,

00:20:58.800 I actually got in trouble for that. And then I deleted all of my OK groomer tweets, knowing that

00:21:04.500 the writing was on the wall with that word. And I said, OK child sexualization specialist to one of

00:21:10.520 the same people. So I played a bit of a word game myself, and I beat a leftist at a word game and

00:21:16.460 found myself, you know, sent to Siberia, if you will, for doing so. And so you can kind of see

00:21:23.640 this. This, I think, is exactly how their mentality is. But the most important part is the people who

00:21:30.160 aren't part of the ideology don't count as people from the perspective of the ideology, which is

00:21:34.880 extraordinarily dangerous and extraordinarily contrary to, you know, broadly liberal societies.

00:21:41.380 In fact, it's their exact antithesis in not a good or not any good way that we should take very

00:21:49.820 seriously the signs that this ideology is giving off about what it is and what it intends to do,

00:21:56.000 which is to claim power and that the ends of them having power justify the means of doing

00:22:01.000 whatever they do, destroying liberal societies that stand in their way and the constitutions

00:22:05.780 that prevent them from having power and from from controlling people. And we should would look to

00:22:11.180 the lessons of history, the 20th century, certainly, and see just what a terrible road that this ideology

00:22:18.360 wants to walk us down, thinking that it is benefiting the greater good, which it alone, as Gnostics 1.00

00:22:23.700 understands. You know, I try to understand what Elon Musk is doing. I mean, by some measure,

00:22:29.440 he's the world's richest man. I'm not sure if that's the case on any given day with the stock

00:22:33.320 price of Tesla. But he does seem quite unusual. I mean, it's a pretty obvious thing to say.

00:22:40.120 He's a serial entrepreneur. He seems to love hard sciences. He seems sort of quirky himself. He seems

00:22:47.440 to be awkward, but self-deprecating, which is a wonderful combination. I've seen him talk about

00:22:53.960 freedom and authoritarianism in government, and I'm generally impressed with it. I think he's got a

00:22:58.940 blind spot when it comes to China. I wouldn't say a blind spot, but he's so exposed, Tesla's so

00:23:03.780 exposed to China, and he knows that a false word there could crumple his company. So I think he

00:23:11.260 just sort of stops talking honestly when it comes to China or stops talking at all. But other than

00:23:16.580 that, I think he's generally, I'd say he's a little bit libertarian. And he constantly points out that

00:23:25.400 all the subsidies Tesla got were not requested by Tesla. They were requested by his competitors at

00:23:30.240 GM and elsewhere, and he just happily took them. I believe that, first of all. And why a man who's

00:23:39.120 such a builder, SpaceX, you know, Skylink or whatever his internet satellites are called, Tesla, would get

00:23:47.020 into Twitter? One of my questions is why? Is it because he just really loves Twitter? I think he does.

00:23:55.260 He really enjoys the banter. He enjoys the jokes. He enjoys the memes. He's silly. And normally a man

00:24:01.820 of such an accomplishment is not silly. I can't imagine, you know, Rockefeller being silly. Why would 0.99

00:24:10.800 he? And he's obviously spending a lot of time on it. I mean, if I was a shareholder of Tesla or something

00:24:15.820 else, I'd be saying, hey, can you come and run the car company? Please, what are you doing messing around

00:24:19.540 for yucks? I'm trying to understand his motivation. And maybe he's so clever that he's just playing the

00:24:26.680 joker, playing the jester, the entertainer, but there's something deadly. I mean, that would,

00:24:31.300 you know, as they say in another context, the first trick of the devil is to make you think he doesn't

00:24:35.600 exist. Maybe Elon Musk's first trick is to make you think he's some harmless goofball, but underneath

00:24:41.220 it all, he's deadly serious about something. I've come to the conclusion that Twitter was a CIA

00:24:47.180 operation or FBI operation, just the same way as TikTok is a People's Liberation Army

00:24:53.040 operation. And I don't say that in any conspiratorial way, but rather we know that the FBI,

00:24:58.580 for example, had a direct portal at Twitter where they could upload their concerns to Twitter and

00:25:04.280 Twitter would censor their enemies. They had the same thing going on during the pandemic where Fauci

00:25:10.220 would give them lists of, you know, skeptics. We know that other countries use Twitter to spy on

00:25:17.180 dissidents. Saudi Arabia had some staff arrested for that. We know the old Twitter board had,

00:25:23.180 you know, Secretary of State type people like Deep State. Like, what are you doing in a social media

00:25:28.840 tech company? Well, imagine having access to all that data. What politician is looking at what? Who's

00:25:35.840 having a direct message with whom? And of course, under the terms of service, you own it all. Buying

00:25:40.380 Twitter, you're buying the ads, you're buying the business, but you're buying the intel. You're buying

00:25:45.980 everyone's secrets. So maybe he's joking around and having fun, but underneath it, there's something

00:25:53.280 deeper. I don't know. I'd love your theory. Why is Elon Musk buying something that's regarded as a game

00:25:59.620 or an addiction? What's he doing? Well, I mean, we could take his own stated purposes at face value,

00:26:06.540 which seems not to be a losing strategy with Elon Musk from what I've seen throughout the years with

00:26:12.020 him. And his statement was that there should be a place that's not heavily restricted free speech.

00:26:18.220 That's not heavily biased. He said that the furthest right and the furthest left should be

00:26:22.300 equally mad at the company, not one side being outraged and the other side quite happy or mad for

00:26:28.240 funny reasons. I mean, a lot of his decision-making followed, he went on the podcast for the satire

00:26:35.080 site, the Babylon Bee with Seth Dillon and them. And he sat down and he talked to them and he was a

00:26:40.400 big fan of the, or is a big fan of the Babylon Bee. And then the next thing you know, Twitter decided

00:26:44.940 to lock the Babylon Bee out for making a joke about Richard Levine, if I remember correctly, or Rachel

00:26:50.820 or whatever the hell we're supposed to call this person. And in making that joke and getting locked out

00:26:56.780 of Twitter, it's like, you know, Babylon Bee made a beautiful joke about it. They said, you know,

00:27:01.240 the person who locked the Babylon Bee's account now wondering if he's in hot water, because that seemed

00:27:07.040 to have triggered a kind of moment in Elon, if we look kind of again at face value, where he recognized

00:27:13.540 that if you're censoring satire to this degree, something is badly wrong. And it could be that there's

00:27:22.640 no other deeper motivation than that. He believes that this is what needs to be done. If you look

00:27:27.040 at his big projects, whether electric cars, whether this boring company, whether the internet,

00:27:31.720 whether the Starlink, whether the SpaceX, the space travel and maybe colonization of Mars,

00:27:38.280 it seems almost like, and even the Neuralink, it's almost as though he knows the kinds of

00:27:43.320 technological advances that if we might refer to it as the regime that they want to use and take

00:27:48.180 advantage of, his interest in cryptocurrency was another example of this. And it almost seems like

00:27:53.520 he likes to get ahead of them, them controlling all of social media and tech through their,

00:27:58.240 whether it's ESG, Cabal, or whatever, or Davos commitment, or whatever it happens to be.

00:28:04.100 It's something that would fall into a pattern with Elon Musk of not trusting that kind of unipole of

00:28:11.480 all power and panopticon capacity. On the other hand, he's also, you know, you said he's buying

00:28:19.300 access to all of this data, which who knows what he could do with it, all this intel. But he also

00:28:25.000 says that he believes, and it's said for years, that he believes that direct messages should be

00:28:28.920 peer-to-peer encrypted and all of these other kinds of security measures that don't currently exist.

00:28:33.280 So it is possible that he genuinely thinks that we should have a kind of wild, wild west,

00:28:37.880 open marketplace of ideas. And as far as what he's doing, it's fascinating to watch.

00:28:43.960 I don't honestly believe he fully knows what he's doing. This makes Elon Musk fans very upset. But I

00:28:50.540 do also think that he is a very quick learner. And he's very savvy at picking up on a game as he's

00:28:57.940 playing it, and then playing it to win and doing very well at that. So it may come out to be this

00:29:03.220 kind of uncontrolled or, you know, limited control kind of environment for free speech

00:29:09.540 that we haven't had in a number of years. That would be a tremendous mark outside of the broad

00:29:17.340 regime. What his ultimate goals with that are, though, I shouldn't guess and couldn't guess.

00:29:22.060 You know, Elon Musk is big in wealth and big in ideas and big in a network of friends, I suppose.

00:29:28.880 But there's always someone bigger. And in terms of money, you know, BlackRock, Soros,

00:29:40.960 and his networks, there's always someone bigger. And you'd think a fellow who can muster 44 billion

00:29:48.620 or whatever it is, is pretty impervious. But we saw that the head of censorship at Twitter,

00:29:55.600 who Elon Musk kept around. His name is Yoel Roth. Elon Musk kept him around for a bit. But then he

00:30:03.340 quit. And he wrote sort of a catty op-ed in the New York Times. And one of the things he alluded to

00:30:08.940 was, you know, most apps that you download on your phone come from one of two places, Android,

00:30:16.520 which is the Google App Store, or the iPhone App Store. And that's the choke point. And if you want

00:30:24.700 to kill Twitter, ban it from the app stores on both systems. And of course, you could go deeper

00:30:32.340 than that. Who hosts the servers? I mean, maybe Twitter has their own stuff, or maybe they're

00:30:37.420 using Amazon Web Services, as so many companies do. Like, there's always a deeper level of

00:30:43.160 infrastructure. Like, your house is built on a foundation, and the foundation are built on perhaps,

00:30:48.320 you know, some sort of pillars. Like, in the internet, there's always a deeper backbone.

00:30:51.960 And so however big Elon Musk is, there are bigger people out there. The CIA is bigger. Maybe even the

00:30:59.260 KGB is bigger. The State Department is bigger. The U.S. government is bigger. The Department of

00:31:02.860 Justice is bigger. I saw this clip the other day, just outrageous. A reporter for Bloomberg,

00:31:10.120 in an obvious setup, asking Joe Biden if Elon Musk should be investigated for colluding with

00:31:17.240 foreigners. They asked this of the father of Hunter Biden. Remember this clip? Take a look.

00:31:21.580 Mr. President, do you think Elon Musk is a threat to U.S. national security? And should

00:31:26.440 the U.S., and with the tools you have, investigate his joint acquisition of Twitter with foreign

00:31:33.140 governments, which include the Saudis?

00:31:34.600 I think that Elon Musk's cooperation and or technical relationships with other countries is worthy of

00:32:03.360 being looked at. Whether or not he is doing anything inappropriate, I'm not suggesting that. I'm

00:32:10.540 suggesting that it's worth being looked at. But that's all I'll say.

00:32:20.020 Just absolute scripted setup question. By the way, Michael Bloomberg himself, the boss of that

00:32:26.160 reporter, praises Xi Jinping, actually said that Xi Jinping is not a dictator. He's a kind of Democrat.

00:32:32.420 I think that Elon Musk is as powerful as you can get as an individual, but there is always a bigger

00:32:40.780 force. And I'm worried if he takes on the deep state or if he takes on wokeism. Woke capital is

00:32:47.880 bigger than Elon Musk and woke CIA and woke Pentagon is more powerful. And I'm just worried that no one's

00:32:57.100 big enough to fight the man. What do you think?

00:33:00.240 I am not worried about that. I don't lose a minute of sleep about that. And the reason isn't because I

00:33:05.920 don't think the concern is real. It's because I would love to see the mask come off to that degree.

00:33:11.500 I would love to see the I think would be up to a category 11 hurricane of red pills that would fall 0.54

00:33:17.920 from the parlor maneuver where the the play store and the I store or whatever it's called on Apple 0.94

00:33:26.320 Apple store. The app stores get rid of Twitter or the servers are cut out from under. I would love

00:33:32.420 to see them crush Twitter and just watch people stare in wide eyed amazement at how scary the world

00:33:38.440 that they live in currently actually is and let it come to the point. I would prefer that that doesn't

00:33:42.920 happen. But I win either way. Either we have a space that enables at least ostensibly more free

00:33:50.380 speech that is kind of the bedrock of what this nation or this kind of liberal experiment throughout

00:33:56.960 the world is is is built on or the regime reveals itself in a way that again is so unambiguous that

00:34:04.740 they frighten and awaken and possibly even radicalize people by the tens or maybe hundreds of

00:34:12.400 millions as to what they really are. I think that that's they're not as strong. They may have power,

00:34:20.200 but they're not in a strong position because they can't use the power that they have ethically.

00:34:24.760 And I think that the the executive from Twitter who wrote that the the censorship czar at Twitter

00:34:31.040 that wrote that just reveals who he is. He's a tyrant. He's an evil person by having written that 0.85

00:34:36.800 with kind of this little grin. And The New York Times reveals itself yet again to be a pile of 0.71

00:34:43.300 garbage, a failing enterprise that's kept aloft because of its use to the regime, not because of 0.97

00:34:48.800 its its utility in delivering news or honesty or opinion or information to people. 0.98

00:34:54.100 I just find those. I mean, I think that would be called a pyrrhic victory.

00:34:57.980 Uh-huh. Yes, I told you it was that bad. And now you see how bad it is. I take your point. A lot of

00:35:04.540 people would see it. But it reminds me of the Jeffrey Epstein case. I mean, we know that the

00:35:12.040 story was suffocated. We know that the likelihood of the official line that he committed suicide

00:35:17.460 is laughably implausible. We know the security guards who were sleeping, the cameras that weren't

00:35:22.600 working, and the fact that we still don't know the list of his customers. Like, I think the Jeffrey

00:35:29.060 Epstein crisis revealed that so many conspiracy theories were real, including international

00:35:37.300 sex trafficking of billionaires and everyone's in. Like, it revealed everything. The fact that Bill

00:35:42.840 Gates, his own wife, divorced him over it. I mean, here's just a quick reminder. Here's Melinda Gates

00:35:49.020 speaking about as plainly as she can to make sure she's not Jeffrey Epstein. Remember this?

00:35:54.860 You know, it was also widely reported that Bill had a friendship or business or some kind

00:36:00.460 of contact with Jeffrey Epstein and that you were not, that that was very upsetting to you. Did that

00:36:05.380 play a role in the divorce at all in this process? Yeah. As I said, it's not one thing. It was many

00:36:12.400 things, but I did not like that he'd had meetings with Jeffrey Epstein, no. And you made that clear

00:36:19.780 to him? I made that clear to him. I also met Jeffrey Epstein exactly one time. Did you? Yes,

00:36:26.440 because I wanted to see who this man was. And I regretted it from the second I stepped in the door.

00:36:33.820 He was abhorrent. He was evil, personified. I had nightmares about it afterwards. So, 0.91

00:36:40.420 you know, my heart breaks for these young women because that's how I felt. And here I'm an older

00:36:45.540 woman. My God, I feel terrible for those young women. It's awful. You felt that the moment you

00:36:50.380 walked in. He was awful. Yeah. And you shared that with Bill and he still continued to spend time with

00:36:56.100 him? Any of the questions remaining about what Bill's relationship there was, those are for Bill

00:37:02.220 to answer. Okay. But I made it very clear how I felt about him. So Melinda Gates effectively said,

00:37:08.240 I divorced my husband because he wouldn't stop visiting with a child rapist again and again and 0.99

00:37:14.040 again and again and again. I think it was Engadget or Gizmodo who said that they visited dozens of 0.90

00:37:21.600 times. His own wife divorced him and is saying so publicly. And yet Bill Gates was the hero of the

00:37:27.660 pandemic. He's the toast of every establishment. Jeffrey Epstein is dead, but all his handlers or

00:37:34.300 customers have impunity. So these Pyrrhic victories, aha, I revealed how the world is a

00:37:39.940 stitch up. I find them, I find no comfort in that. Well, the comfort isn't, I mean, the comfort isn't

00:37:48.760 where you're looking at it directly. I would like to just kind of point out that my fundamental

00:37:53.460 belief about what's going on, having kind of trudged through this muck for quite a while,

00:37:58.240 is that it's getting into late 1943 and we're three quarters of the way to Berlin. And we know

00:38:05.020 that Hitler is gassing people by the hundreds of thousands per unit time. We know that he holds 0.98

00:38:12.480 all the territory. We know how bad the war machine is. Everything looks like it's hanging by a thread

00:38:18.320 and we're still, we are three quarters to Berlin. We're almost there. And I think that we may find

00:38:26.420 a brighter spring through these kind of series. We can call them Pyrrhic victories for the regime,

00:38:32.220 or we can call them tripping over their own feet in many cases. And so I don't think it's something to

00:38:38.080 be comfortable about. I think it's a feature of the ugliness of war. And, but I do also think that we

00:38:44.780 are, like I said, about three quarters of the way to Berlin and everything looks very, very dark.

00:38:49.140 Um, but I also think that, uh, things are coming apart for them much more quickly than, um, they can

00:38:59.160 sustain. Huh? I, I, I'm very grateful for your time. I know we only asked you for a few minutes and

00:39:05.040 we've taken up half your afternoon, but it's great to talk with you. It's so good to catch up. And I

00:39:08.680 have to tell you, I'm delighted that you're back on Twitter, not just for your own sake, but for the

00:39:13.020 reaction that's causing the bad guys. And that's, that's even more delicious. If I may say, I want

00:39:18.700 to ask you at the moment. I don't know if you saw, I tweeted a picture of myself. I visited the UK last

00:39:24.480 week. I actually, they'll be quite upset when it comes out. I was invited to debate whether what

00:39:28.860 culture has gone too far at the Oxford union. And, uh, but while I was in the UK, I've paid my visits

00:39:34.060 to Karl Marx's grave and took a picture pretending to urinate on it. And they're just losing their

00:39:40.600 marbles over this. Well, I mean, uh, at least you didn't tear down the statue. That's the,

00:39:46.120 that's the move of the left. Oh, I did was stand there with my hands near my waist. I didn't even

00:39:50.200 do anything. So, um, Donald Trump was a very powerful and effective and admiral, admirable

00:40:00.140 character in my mind, because he, although he was a billionaire who was powerful and he used the system,

00:40:08.080 I mean, Dave Chappelle's, um, monologue the other day was, was spot on that rather than deny it,

00:40:15.760 Trump said, yeah, I can tell you how bad it is. Cause I use the real, here's a quick clip of Dave

00:40:21.420 Chappelle. I think Dave Chappelle is secretly a conservative. He really protests every time.

00:40:26.600 Oh, I'm a Democrat. I got to remind you, I'm a Democrat. He says that, but I actually don't think

00:40:31.640 he is. Um, I think he's a radical, uh, in his own way, he's conservative. I think the fact that he

00:40:37.440 doesn't live in Manhattan, he lives in a small town in Ohio. Um, here's that clip of Dave Chappelle

00:40:42.680 grokking Donald Trump in a second. Take a look. I get it. Cause I hear it every day. He's very loved.

00:40:50.160 And the reason he's loved is because people in Ohio have never seen somebody like him. 0.94

00:40:54.820 He's what I call an honest liar. Well, I'm not joking right now. He's an honest liar. That first 0.75

00:41:02.940 debate, that first debate, I've never seen anything like it. I've never seen a white male billionaire

00:41:09.400 screaming at the top of his lungs. This whole system is rigged, he said. And across the stage

00:41:16.620 was a white woman, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama sitting over there looking at him like,

00:41:20.160 no, it's not. I said, now, wait a minute, bro. It's what he said. And the moderator said,

00:41:26.380 well, Mr. Trump, if in fact the system is rigged, as you suggest, what would be your evidence?

00:41:34.160 Remember what he said, bro? He said, I know the system is rigged because I use it. I said,

00:41:43.160 God damn. I think that is Trump. He knows where the bodies are buried and he's still got sort of a 1.00

00:42:00.400 blue collar sensibility that he says, I'm against it. He really did stop the wars. He really, his 0.65

00:42:07.380 unpredictability scared a lot of bad actors, whether it was North Korea, China or Russia.

00:42:14.160 And he really did take on the deep state. Now, he lost that. He lost his battle with the deep state.

00:42:20.660 My number one thing I like about Trump is he fights that hidden hand and he proves that it exists,

00:42:28.180 but he lost to it. I don't know if Trump in 2024

00:42:32.980 is the same Trump that we loved in 2016. I don't know if he's fighting for the people so much or if

00:42:41.460 he's fighting to relitigate his own election battle. I don't know if he's, I don't know. I mean,

00:42:47.320 there's so many things I love about him and admire about him, but what are your thoughts on Trump

00:42:52.320 today versus Trump six years ago? Well, I mean, I generally like Trump, but I think he's hilarious,

00:42:58.680 not least of all. But I also, again, to invoke the Babylon Bee, they put out, and I'll butcher the 0.97

00:43:06.200 wording, it's unfortunate. They put out a joke a couple of days ago that America nostalgically

00:43:11.560 remembers when one election ends before another one begins. And so I'm not putting a lot of thought

00:43:16.920 into 24 yet, and I'm trying to kind of just sit back and watch, see how people behave, see where

00:43:24.000 their mind is. There is certainly the mind that Trump will have to get revenge on the people who

00:43:30.180 did him wrong or to beat the people who beat him, have his comeback story that should be brought into

00:43:35.340 calculation. I don't know that his commitment to the people has wavered much. From what I understand,

00:43:41.860 he's still very much of the people. His base at least sees that or feels that from him. So again,

00:43:49.900 I hesitate to make any claims on this because I think it's a time for watching and waiting and

00:43:55.100 thinking and not jumping to conclusions when there's just so much runway still ahead of us

00:44:00.340 on the issue. Give me one minute on the midterms before we let you go. I mean,

00:44:06.780 I think a lot of people on the right thought that it would be a more dramatic pendulum

00:44:11.680 shift to the Republicans. I mean, for heaven's sakes, you've got an 80-year-old president with

00:44:16.440 obviously cognitive decline. You've got inflation shortages. You've got shortages of things. Gas

00:44:23.540 prices high. You've got war or the rumors of war around the world. And yet they're going to hold the

00:44:32.380 Senate and the Republicans just slouched across the finish line in the House. They missed races they

00:44:43.540 should have won, whether it was in Georgia or even New York. I think there was a possibility that

00:44:51.540 the governorship could have gone to the Republicans. I don't know how you lose to a victim of a stroke

00:44:59.000 like John Fetterman in Pennsylvania. Like it's laughable that someone who has been brain injured

00:45:04.840 can win a Senate seat. But what's more laughable is the man who would lose to such a man.

00:45:10.140 I left dispirited. What did you think of the midterms?

00:45:14.100 I mean, if I would have been on Twitter, you would have known. I was one of the few people

00:45:17.560 saying all along this summer that there would be no red wave. I had no such aspirations or hopes.

00:45:23.880 It came in a little thinner than I thought it would. To be honest, I didn't I didn't think that

00:45:30.600 the the result in the House would be quite so close. But I think that, you know, even without

00:45:38.640 invoking the the obvious concern, like when you have a stroke victim winning in Pennsylvania or you

00:45:47.060 have also in Pennsylvania, a literal dead person winning over some over Republican, you know,

00:45:53.780 there are obvious things when you look at what just took place in Maricopa County and throughout

00:45:57.960 Arizona, there are obvious eyebrow raising moments that are going on here. When you see the same states

00:46:04.480 exactly as in 2020, having the exact same kinds of delays for exactly the same kind of turnarounds.

00:46:10.760 It's a little little it raises some questions. But even if you set aside that issue, the left has

00:46:18.820 created a ballot harvesting machine that it is incredibly effective at using in broadly illegal

00:46:25.100 sense, probably almost entirely illegal sense. So you don't even have to invoke something like

00:46:30.040 election fraud in order to get them across these finish lines if they have a month long ballot

00:46:35.760 harvesting project where they can have before, say, Oz and Fetterman even debate, they can have a big

00:46:42.400 enough electoral sandbag where Fetterman essentially can't lose. And so the Republicans and Democrats are

00:46:48.900 playing two electoral games, which puts them in a very ugly choice, which is either to try to abolish

00:46:55.540 the ballot harvesting game and go back to a voting system, which is what we're supposed to have,

00:47:00.160 or to reify that corrupt system by joining in and participating in it. Without doing one or the other, it will not be

00:47:08.740 possible to win. Reifying the system creates a tremendous possibility for being stuck in this kind of very

00:47:18.040 corrupt, months long ballot harvesting battle throughout various, you know, political districts that are of some

00:47:26.900 consequence. And so I don't know that that's the Republicans best strategy. But at the same time, it may be their

00:47:31.940 only strategy in some places. And so having a principled solution to that, should they take up the temptation to use the

00:47:39.200 ring, rather than to destroy it, they better have a plan for its ultimate destruction that's that that doesn't rely on

00:47:47.280 on it for long. I think that that ultimately, is the name that the game, this is the big thing, I think that we learned that

00:47:53.400 Republicans in the United States in particular learned coming out of 2022, is that the Democrats have created a ballot

00:47:59.280 harvesting program that is largely legal in most of the states that it's happening in, and that it is a

00:48:04.720 catastrophe. It is a way to completely subvert what our electoral system is supposed to be in the name of

00:48:12.260 improving suffrage, which is the typical kind of nasty trick that leftists do in order to get themselves into

00:48:20.000 power. And so I think it ultimately, my opinion is that it needs to end and it needs to end everywhere.

00:48:24.940 And it needs to be a top three priority for Republicans in virtually every district, along with

00:48:30.380 education and energy, which are my those are the three top issues. Elections need to be cleaned up

00:48:36.200 energy and then education, not necessarily in that order, as the top three issues that Republicans need

00:48:41.100 to be facing and focusing on going forward. But I think that's the lesson that we've learned that

00:48:45.620 they're playing a different electoral game, and they're very good at it. And they have certain

00:48:49.500 advantages, they have a whole war machine. And we're now stuck in the decision of having to try

00:48:54.220 to beat it from outside, or to reify it by accepting it and trying to play on its terms, which I'm already

00:49:01.320 hearing a lot of prominent conservative voices calling for. And my prudence alarm is kind of ringing

00:49:07.060 a bit thinking that's not a good idea. I don't know if it's a necessary evil. I don't know if necessary

00:49:13.260 evils are acceptable. You know, I'll end as I began, which is our mighty YouTube channel really

00:49:19.920 was mighty, especially for Canada to have 1.6 million subscribers in a country like ours. It

00:49:25.960 really was astounding. And it was taken away because not only we didn't even agree with or

00:49:33.220 express an opinion about it, we just showed it as an artifact, Donald Trump talking about the 2020

00:49:38.780 election. And because that hinted at a discredited election, YouTube was, I think it was just an

00:49:47.040 excuse to knock Rebel News down. But imagine being so sensitive to questions about election integrity,

00:49:54.380 that that, other than misgendering someone, can knock an entire channel basically off the platform.

00:50:03.360 They're obviously scared of it. They're obviously scared of what will happen if people talk about

00:50:09.240 election rule rigging. Otherwise, why would they censor it so hard? You know, it's okay to be wrong.

00:50:15.760 You're allowed to be wrong. You're allowed to have opinions that are unreasonable. You're allowed to

00:50:19.860 get your facts wrong, except on this one thing where you're not allowed to even hint at. It's very

00:50:25.820 telling to me. Dr. James Lindsay, what a pleasure to catch up with you again. You know, I think your

00:50:32.140 return to Twitter, given the issues you focus on and your tough style, to me was a more important

00:50:41.880 signal. The reinstatement of Project Veritas, very important, but just such an obvious one. They were

00:50:48.040 so obviously doing public interest journalism. It would be shocking were they not reinstated the

00:50:52.900 Babylon Bee, of course, their satire. But to bring you on with the toughness of your political

00:50:59.740 analysis and commentary, to me, that was a sign that the new censorship approach of Twitter genuinely

00:51:06.700 has changed because it would have been easy for them to keep you in the intolerable, undesirables

00:51:13.160 category, but they didn't. And I find that very hopeful. It's great to join you again. Not that we

00:51:17.740 couldn't have joined you a week ago, but this gives us a great opportunity to talk about it. So thanks for

00:51:22.000 being with us today. Yeah, well, thank you for having me. It's been great to catch up.

00:51:25.540 Right on. I look forward to our next conversation. There you have it, Dr. James Lindsay, the boss of

00:51:30.500 newdiscourses.com. What a pleasure to catch up with him. He joined us today from the great state

00:51:35.860 of Tennessee shortly after being reinstated on twitter.com. That's our show for today. Until

00:51:43.320 tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters to you at home, good night

00:51:47.080 and keep fighting for freedom. I can show you data on just how many COVID-19 vaccines the federal

00:51:52.780 government purchased before those same vaccines were even approved by Health Canada for human use.

00:51:57.980 Quite a gamble. They were on a wing and a prayer. Today's information comes to us by way of an order

00:52:02.260 paper question posed to the federal government by Conservative MP Colin Carey. He asked the federal

00:52:08.740 government for all the data on the number of vaccines that were purchased by the feds and then

00:52:13.940 how many of those purchases were made in advance of Health Canada approval for the vaccine.

00:52:20.300 By my estimation, the federal government now has or had purchase orders for nearly 600 million doses of

00:52:27.900 COVID-19 vaccine, 585 million actually, with 373 million of those doses purchased in advance of

00:52:34.620 Health Canada approval. It's a pretty big gamble, like I said, but it's not their money. And it's

00:52:39.600 probably the reason these vaccines keep getting approved regardless of their efficacy. Now, the response

00:52:45.500 of Kerry's question was read into the House of Commons official record, Hansard, this week, and it

00:52:50.120 goes on and on, 600 million doses worth. But here are just a couple of examples. For Moderna's spike

00:52:55.940 vax, the date the initial purchase agreement was publicly announced, November 16th, 2020. The number

00:53:02.100 of doses purchased was 44 million in 2021. And then they exercised options to buy more, another 25 million in

00:53:10.100 2022, 35 million in 2023, and 35 million in 2024. The initial date of approval from Health Canada,

00:53:18.260 though, was December 23rd, 2020. So by my math, that's 104 million doses of just Moderna, that vaccine

00:53:25.360 with serious myocarditis outcomes, with about 40% of that contract purchased in advance of Health Canada's

00:53:32.460 approval. For Pfizer's jab, the date the initial agreement was publicly announced was July 20th,

00:53:39.040 2020. The number of doses was 51 million in 2021. And then they upped it, buying some more for 2022,

00:53:48.680 another 65 million, and then another 60 million in 2023, and another 60 million in 2024. However,

00:53:55.620 the date of approval from Health Canada was December 9th, 2020. If I'm reading this right, this means

00:54:02.060 we purchased 236 million doses of Pfizer, with 51 million of those purchased five months before the initial

00:54:08.600 approval of the vaccine. For the Sanofi vaccine, the date the original purchase agreement was announced was

00:54:15.960 July 29th, 2020. The number of doses purchased at that time was 72 million. And that vaccine is still under

00:54:23.400 review by Health Canada. So 72 million doses were purchased by the federal government of a medicine that is

00:54:29.860 still under review two full years later. But I think that one's going to get approved because

00:54:36.460 why not? How could it not? Remember this?

00:54:39.900 It is a basically biological chip that it is in the tablet. And once you take the tablet and dissolves

00:54:48.620 into your stomach, it sends a signal that you took the tablet. So imagine the applications of that

00:54:54.280 compliance. I'm not entirely sure what Health Canada is reviewing. We know COVID vaccines don't have to work

00:55:01.640 to receive approval. Just ask all the quadruple boosted multiple COVID infection survivors, like Justin Trudeau,

00:55:10.120 who are wasting all of our money on these things. For Rebel News, I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed.

Rebel News Podcast - November 22, 2022

EZRA LEVANT ｜ The liberal meltdown over Trump's Twitter return is incredible ... and he hasn't even tweeted yet!

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