00:03:39.780Why is it actually a threat to our freedoms?
00:03:43.920It's one more building block of the surveillance state, and it's absolutely terrifying.
00:03:49.420We are rapidly moving towards a situation where six months from now, or perhaps 12 months, 24 months, 36 months,
00:03:57.680But coming up soon, we're moving towards a communist China social credit type system where the government has access to where you are and who you communicate with and what you do and your purchases, your movements, so on and so forth.
00:04:17.620Each of the bills seem – let me do a super quick review.
00:04:23.460We had the Online Streaming Act, Bill C-11, gave the Canadian Radio, Television, and Telecommunications Commission, the CRTC, gave them legal authority over the internet, which they previously, it was just radio and television, not the internet.
00:04:36.640So the Online Streaming Act, Bill C-11, has empowered the CRTC, given them legal authority over the internet.
00:04:42.840They have not been throwing their weight around yet, but the legal authority is in place.
00:06:12.580But this is one of a half dozen building blocks of the civilian state.
00:06:16.260you said you've listed six and i think there's another one that's that's gathering and that's
00:06:25.000the online harms act trudeau introduced it in his term but it it didn't pass by the time parliament
00:06:31.340was pro-road so i guess that would be a seventh i don't know i don't think they've introduced that
00:06:36.400one again am i correct the online harms act well yes and no bill bill c34 or the safe social media
00:06:43.920act one of the many terrible things it does is it establishes a digital safety commission and that
00:06:50.040makes it like that makes it like the online harms act the online harms act would establish a digital
00:06:55.880safety commission with immense broad powers to regulate content and to they would get a high
00:07:03.540degree of compliance because they would tell any platform if you don't comply with our regulations
00:07:08.320passed by the federal cabinet in secret without any accountability to parliament, right?
00:07:13.680So it's a blank check for the federal cabinet to write the restrictions on speech on the
00:07:21.080internet, and the Digital Safety Commission enforces those restrictions, can penalize
00:07:26.280companies up to $10 million or 3% of their global revenues.
00:07:30.060So you can bet your last dollar that the companies are going to be compliant.
00:07:37.060compliant. They'll be the censors. The companies will be taking down any quote, and they'll be
00:07:43.220taking down content. If they think that there's a chance that they're going to get a $10 million
00:07:48.080fine because of the content, it'll be the companies taking it down in order to please
00:07:53.980the Digital Safety Commission, which has the power to punish. And so you're not necessarily
00:07:59.840going to see prosecutions of individual Canadians per se, but you're going to see the social media
00:08:05.280platforms uh removing all kinds of content you know you're so right i know one of the demands is
00:08:11.220that things be adjudicated and removed within 24 hours that was the target in the previous bill
00:08:18.000um so just think about it so let's say it's friday night at 11 p.m everyone's about to go to bed i
00:08:25.740suppose some youngsters are still out having fun but old guys like you and me are ready for bed so
00:08:30.400at 11 p.m someone files a complaint and you know people wake up on saturday morning it's the
00:08:36.500weekend let's say you wake up at nine or you don't look at your email so now there's been a complaint
00:08:42.120that's been filed 10 hours ago how do you have a hearing how do you check on things how do you hear
00:08:49.280from the other party how do you judge things because if you don't get it down within 24 hours
00:08:54.520like you say there's a whopping fine so like you say any rational company would say okay there's
00:09:02.280some tweet or some facebook post or some instagram post by someone and yeah we value free speech but
00:09:09.520on the other hand if we make the wrong decision and we only have like six hours to get it right
00:09:14.960we could be on millions it's a no-brainer what the company's going to do and by the way some
00:09:20.180these companies secretly like to censor anyways so there is simply i mean does the government do
00:09:26.180anything in 24 hours does the government processes work in 24 hours no but that's how fast they
00:09:31.280expect these social media platforms to work or they get like you say three percent of your global
00:09:36.120it's a global revenue fine so a company like facebook which has global revenues in the billions
00:09:42.140canada says oh we'll take three percent of that thank you very little
00:09:45.780the other in addition to the platforms taking down content uh you know they're gonna as you
00:09:55.460explained it they're gonna err on the side of caution right uh if you're in doubt if you think
00:09:59.780it might net you a 10 million dollar fine you're gonna there's gonna be an awful lot of censorship
00:10:05.020that way the other frightening thing is the big step towards the uh identification okay if you
00:10:13.360want to make it illegal for teens under 16 or children under 16 to access social media,
00:10:20.040the only way to do that is you have a foolproof digital ID system in place where everybody
00:10:29.200has to prove their age when they access social media. Because in Australia, which has had this
00:10:36.060ban in place since December 2025, so they've had it for just over six months, 70% failure rate in
00:10:42.620australia because the kids were they would use a a printed mesh mask or they would use fake id or
00:10:51.040they borrow the id from their older brother sister older friend from their parents so three months
00:10:56.320after the e-safety commissioner so this is an australian government official said that over
00:11:01.440two-thirds of teenagers were under 16 were still uh were still on social media so it wasn't working
00:11:09.340Now, you might think, okay, well, so it doesn't work.
00:11:11.520Well, no, here's where it gets really tricky.
00:11:13.900The push is going to be on facial recognition.
00:11:17.620And what you're going to hear, this creates a space where people are going to say, you know what, the only way to protect the children is to have a requirement where everybody of all ages, you have to prove your age every time that you access social media.
00:11:32.420and from there it's not another you know if we need to protect the children from social media
00:11:37.120don't we also need to protect the children from the internet and we very quickly get to this place
00:11:41.840where uh we have to identify ourselves each and every time we use the internet and now you're
00:11:46.920into a total surveillance state so that's what it's leading towards yeah i mean because if you're
00:11:52.500trying to find the people who are under 16 obviously that means you have to identify those
00:11:58.320who are over 16 because you are dividing the two groups so you every single adult will have to
00:12:04.560identify and introduce themselves and be presumably tracked in whatever way the government insists on
00:12:11.020the tracking so it's actually using children as a bait and switch you know there are a lot of things
00:12:16.180i don't think children should do i mean buying alcohol buying marijuana there's a marijuana shop
00:12:45.580I've got kids, and they've got phones,
00:12:48.200And I can set their phones to block certain apps, use certain apps for only a certain amount of time a day, like half an hour instead of endless, to block certain times like after 10 p.m. or something.
00:13:03.760So there are a lot of tools that a parent can do to look after kids.
00:13:08.220I think this is sort of blurring a few things.
00:13:10.120It's saying, well, we are going to step in the place of parents, and because of that, we need this vast power.
00:13:18.840How about just let parents do the blocking as can happen right now?
00:13:26.660And this whole safety thing, governments never take away rights and freedoms without offering a nice-sounding pretext.
00:13:33.760And so many terrible things are promoted in the name of safety, right?
00:13:38.300We need to have the government spy on you and have surveillance and have the government be allowed to read your email to keep you safe from terrorists.
00:13:47.360You know, you don't want terrorists running wild and, you know, blowing up buildings.
00:13:50.880So, you know, we need the surveillance state or we need to protect you from the nasty neighbor next door who's going to attack and invade us.
00:13:58.840Or we need to keep you safe from the communists, from the Jews, from the fascists, from, you know, the weather.0.67
00:14:06.560We've got to protect you from the weather because, you know, we have to prevent the climate holocaust.0.72
00:14:10.500There's always safety is a very common theme in the violation of rights and freedoms.
00:14:16.240And you've seen it from the communists in Russia to the national socialists in Germany.
00:14:21.940You know, you can take away all your rights and freedoms to keep you safe and on and on throughout history.
00:14:26.580So now it's, yeah, we've got to protect the children.
00:14:29.520So we have to, you know, step further towards the surveillance state.
00:14:33.960And this is where we're heading with these half dozen bills. Five of them passed. Online Streaming Act, Online News Act, Cybersecurity Act, Combating Hate Act, Lawful Access Act. Correct me if I'm wrong, I think all five of those have passed. Maybe one or two are still stuck in the Senate.
00:14:50.520And now we've got Bill C-34 is the sixth bill, if you exclude the Online Harms Act.
00:14:58.080You have to look at the thing together, these bills.
00:15:01.280Because in isolation, each one is not necessarily too terrible.
00:15:05.840But you put them together, and wow, you're looking at the building blocks of a surveillance state where the government can spy on every move, every internet search, every email we send, everything we do.
00:15:18.500yeah you know and you know you're talking about well what if there's a climate emergency
00:15:23.920you know i think if you give the government emergency powers they're going to declare an
00:15:30.380emergency all the time i mean think about the truckers what was the truckers the truckers were
00:15:35.080a group of people honking their horns in ottawa and then they stopped stopped honking their horns
00:15:40.160when a judge ordered them to stop and they did and the only thing they did in addition to that
00:15:45.640is there were some parking offenses, parking tickets, that's it. There was no violence. They
00:15:49.700didn't storm any building. Yet Trudeau, with the approval of his attorney general, David Lamedi,
00:15:55.540put the entire country under a form of martial law and used that not only to get physical with
00:16:02.220the truckers, but to seize and freeze bank accounts without judicial process. So if some
00:16:08.200truckers honking their horns can be an emergency, of course there'll be a climate emergency. Of
00:16:13.340course there'll be another pandemic the governments love that so much so they will let me give you one
00:16:19.320more example my friend tommy robinson in the uk he was stopped under the terrorism act they knew he
00:16:24.520wasn't a terrorist but one of the things of the terrorism act in the uk is the police can demand
00:16:29.420your cell phone password and if you don't give it to them that's an offense so tommy robinson no one
00:16:35.680in the in the world including his critics thinks tommy is a terrorist they might think he's wrong
00:16:40.480they might think his opinions are unwise no one thinks he was arrested under that terrorism act
00:16:47.360and because he wouldn't give his phone password he was charged under the act and it certainly
00:16:52.360sounds terrible that that is a further step down the road one more uk example john
00:16:57.560is according to the times of london which is a very prestigious newspaper
00:17:01.440on average 30 people a day in the united kingdom are arrested for things they write on social
00:17:08.580media and i'm not talking about kids i'm talking about grown-ups talking typically about immigration
00:17:13.860or migrants so i don't know there's a lot of you mentioned uh i think you mentioned australia
00:17:20.120and how this doesn't work but the government is sticking with it new zealand france germany uk
00:17:26.340ireland there is a global wave and canada is on the wrong side of that
00:17:31.900well you know we have to um keep on speaking truth and hope that more people will wake up
00:17:41.700because what's so insidious is you don't feel the consequences the next day like right now
00:17:46.340as you and i speak the crtc has substantial control over the internet in canada have they
00:17:53.860exercised it much since this bill was passed almost three years ago i'm not aware of them
00:18:00.700flexing their muscle. But the point is the legislation is there. And it's the same with
00:18:05.460the Cybersecurity Act, Lawful Access Act, ordering companies to set up their own computer software
00:18:13.400in a way that it is easy for the government to come in there and access, ordering companies to
00:18:21.360keep, ordering the telecommunications companies to keep data on file for six months so that they've
00:18:29.420got every phone call you made every text that you sent and where you were when you made them this
00:18:36.080is all data which companies are being required to keep so the the danger here is that the government
00:18:43.040does not necessarily uh crack down and flex its muscle and actually use the legal powers that it
00:18:49.880has acquired the day after the bill comes into force but these are the building blocks and that's
00:18:55.540what makes it so insidious because you try to explain to people look this is really dangerous
00:18:59.640and they say well like i haven't noticed anything different the last three years since these bills
00:19:03.680passed and and that might be true for probably for the vast majority of people you're still you know
00:19:09.500you're using the internet you're using social media you're sending texts to friends you're
00:19:13.740you're sending emails uh you're recording videos you're posting videos you're doing all this stuff
00:19:19.180But the laws are being put in place and the noose is tightening. And so we need a concerted effort in the fall. I don't realistically expect people to be focused on politics too much in July and August. But in September, we need to hit the ground running and hit back hard at Bill C-34.
00:19:38.520Yeah. Well, you know, the government is testing things out. Let me give you an example from British Columbia. I'm not sure if you followed this case. There was an activist who criticized, who didn't like how this activist was described on Twitter, on X.
00:20:02.460and so this activist and there's a court order against using their name so i won't
00:20:07.780um goes to the bc human rights tribunal and and said oh and gets it and demands that x or twitter
00:20:17.780block canadians from seeing certain posts okay so a canadian complains that certain posts are
00:20:26.600inappropriate so twitter agrees blocks it from canada but doesn't block it in the united states
00:20:33.840because the canadian law doesn't run that far the bc human rights tribunal says we said block it
00:20:40.680we mean block it you didn't block it in the united states of america 100 000 fine so the bc human
00:20:50.980rights tribunal hit twitter with a hundred thousand dollar fine because they wouldn't
00:20:57.140listen to a canadian activist demanding censorship of americans so if that's what the bc human rights
00:21:05.640tribunal is doing which really has no mandate in this sphere you can only imagine what these new
00:21:12.020censorship boards are going to try and do when they actually have the powers that you described
00:21:17.840earlier to have massive fines um i don't know if you heard of that case but it's uh i think that
00:21:24.420twitter or x is appealing have you heard of that one does that ring a bell no but uh
00:21:30.680i would hope i would hope that they're going to fight back against that twitter i'm sure you know
00:21:37.660they have some money they would have a lawyer they would say no we're not gonna we're not gonna pay
00:21:41.400a hundred thousand dollar fine on on the order of some kangaroo court in uh but i mentioned that
00:21:48.500and you know i'll send you the case later for your interest is that these would-be censors are
00:21:54.680not limited by anything like legal precedent or you know or any legal concepts like uh where the
00:22:02.600jurisdiction runs what the appropriate form is they're woke radical activists in some cases
00:22:08.420they're not lawyers they're just activists who were appointed to these six-figure positions
00:22:13.080and until someone stops them of course they're going to whack Elon Musk with a hundred grand
00:22:18.200if they could they'd probably hit him with a hundred million um just because I mean they're
00:22:22.560they're radical activists and actually in a way that may give us a hint as where salvation's
00:22:30.300going to come John I don't know if there's any Canadian court that's going to save us I don't
00:22:34.900know i don't think there's any canadian political body that's going to save us now that carney has
00:22:40.660sort of forced his majority i think we might be saved in the end by the united states under our
00:22:47.960trade agreements because we've just been talking about whacking elon musk's twitter or facebook
00:22:54.820instagram tick tock you know you name it these social media companies they're all american and
00:23:02.280And so if you have Canadian politicians saying, oh, we're going to take 3% of your global
00:23:07.600revenues, all right, well, maybe the U.S. trade representative has something to say about
00:26:37.440And there's a reality here that economic prosperity requires good access to the American markets.
00:26:45.980So when the U.S. says that some things are a trade irritant and one of these bills, and I apologize, I should know about it.
00:26:54.280It could have been the Online Streaming Act or the Online News Act.
00:26:57.380But one of these bills is a trade irritant.
00:26:59.620And you see the federal government backing down on it because if they want to, if they're serious about generating economic prosperity for Canada, you can't just, you know, give the middle finger to a powerful neighbor who describes one of your laws as a trade irritant.
00:27:17.860Yeah. You know, I met with the U.S. ambassador a couple of months ago. I talked to him about some of these issues. And, you know, the number one thing I think Canada has to lose in a trade war is the auto sector, because the auto sector in Canada has access to the world's best market.
00:27:35.400and that's really it there's not a lot of rational reasons for that um I mean if you're in Donald
00:27:43.700Trump's position there's no electoral votes electoral college votes in Ontario why not
00:27:48.640just move those factories down to Michigan Ohio Indiana etc like why not like literally why do
00:27:53.940you care and that's the most vulnerable I mean when it comes to Alberta's exports oil and gas
00:27:59.680you can't replace what you're going to replace them with Iranian oil so Americans need to buy
00:28:05.820oil sands oil no matter what they don't need to buy autos from made in Ontario no matter what
00:28:12.240they just don't and so every time these other issues come up where where Mark Carney says he's
00:28:18.240going to you know take on America in this field or that field if I was a Canadian auto worker I
00:28:25.060would be so nervous because i am the hostage in this negotiation it's not the albert oil and gas
00:28:31.660company they would sell oil no matter what i would be very nervous in the if i looked at these six
00:28:38.180censorship bills you've described and knowing how it every single one of them in some way
00:28:44.560offends u.s economic interests i would be terrified that the canadian government is going to put
00:28:50.960ideological radicalism above my autoworker's job. What do you think of that?
00:28:58.120Well, it's very true. And part and parcel of that as well is the risk of end-to-end encrypted
00:29:04.860services like Signal and Telegram that have already said, and once the bill is proclaimed
00:29:14.340into force and actually takes effect, they've said they're going to leave Canada. There's all
00:29:19.240these companies um that are uh that have stated publicly that they're not going to be a service
00:29:26.900provider or they're going to move their headquarters out of canada so then we'll
00:29:33.160we'll be a backwater uh in in some ways because the the legal media will be
00:29:40.440will be under surveillance by government and i apologize i don't know enough about how technology
00:29:46.320works as to how easy or hard it would be for Canadians to acquire US accounts. But it might
00:29:52.580be at a point where, you know, if you and I want to have a private confidential conversation, we
00:29:56.980both need to somehow figure out a way to register in the US, you know, set up American phone numbers
00:30:03.280or something so we can talk to each other without being intercepted. This is what we're moving
00:30:08.260towards. So I hope more Canadians, especially people in Ontario, Quebec and Atlantic Canada,
00:30:14.920I hope there's more people that wake up.