Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ The truth about Justin Trudeau's world of pure imagination

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. I saw the funniest thing on Twitter the other day. What a juxtaposition.

00:00:04.260 I saw Justin Trudeau in a soft-focus video visiting a chocolate shop in Nova Scotia run by a Syrian migrant.

00:00:13.380 And then compare that to his discussion, Trudeau's, with a steelworker.

00:00:17.640 Oh, I'll show you both moments for Trudeau. It's quite something.

00:00:23.460 But I want you to see it, because you really have to see the video of Trudeau at that chocolate shop.

00:00:30.000 Trudeau, Antigonish, Nova Scotia. And to do that, you need to get the video version of this podcast.

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00:00:51.220 because we don't get any dough from Trudeau when it shows. All right, here's today's podcast.

00:01:00.000 Tonight, Trudeau has created his own fantasy world like a Disneyland, but just for himself.

00:01:16.840 Let me show you the reality behind his own magic kingdom.

00:01:20.000 It's September 3rd, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show. 0.78

00:01:22.340 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:37.340 It's a fun story today, I think.

00:01:39.820 Justin Trudeau, as you know, has been behind in the polls, well, for well over a year.

00:01:43.740 It's about two years.

00:01:44.760 And remember a few months ago, he lost a key by-election in Toronto.

00:01:50.680 By key by-election, it's a riding that went liberal for decades, for like 30 years, and it flipped to the Tories.

00:01:57.040 That's panic time in the Liberal Party.

00:01:59.100 Did you know there are two more by-elections coming up?

00:02:02.000 Well, actually, in just 13 days, including one in Montreal called La Salamare Verdun,

00:02:08.420 if I'm saying that with the right accent.

00:02:10.180 Forgive me if I'm not.

00:02:10.880 That riding is where David Lamedi was the MP, the disgraced former justice minister

00:02:17.280 who was rebuked by the federal court for illegally invoking the Emergencies Act.

00:02:22.840 That David Lamedi, the one that we sued at Rebel News because he tried to destroy the public records in his Twitter files.

00:02:28.920 Anyways, that David Lamedi was run out of parliament in disgrace, so they're having a by-election to replace him.

00:02:35.780 And it's a very safe liberal seat.

00:02:37.780 Lamedi was there in the 80s and 90s and 2000s.

00:02:41.320 Paul Martin, that was his riding.

00:02:43.460 Very safe.

00:02:44.360 Just one NDP blip in really two generations.

00:02:48.940 It's otherwise solid liberal.

00:02:50.300 But the liberals are worried.

00:02:53.020 And I saw a headline just the other day that Muslims are boycotting the liberal campaign.

00:02:58.060 They're saying, we're not helping the Liberal Party because you're not pro-Hamas enough.

00:03:02.940 Very interesting.

00:03:03.700 But look, those two by-elections, and there's another one, they're just anecdotes.

00:03:09.440 The data is compelling.

00:03:11.600 Forget about this by-election or that by-election.

00:03:14.280 If you look at any poll by any poll, look at this graph over the years.

00:03:19.400 It's pretty much stabilized.

00:03:21.460 No matter which pollster you are, the Trudeau liberals are about 20% behind Pierre Polyev's conservatives.

00:03:29.640 And what's so interesting, and I love this in the polling when they say, do you like him or do you very much like him?

00:03:35.860 Do you love him?

00:03:36.380 Do you dislike him or do you hate him?

00:03:38.200 Like when you measure the intensity, a lot more people hate Trudeau than just dislike him.

00:03:45.400 So people aren't even listening to him anymore, especially his former base.

00:03:49.780 Young people, minorities, women.

00:03:52.520 It's fascinating how young people have abandoned the Liberal Party largely over cost of living and concerns.

00:03:58.780 Anyways, Trudeau's Liberal Caucus, it's still pretty disciplined despite the suicide run they're on.

00:04:04.860 I mean, after all, you can't replace someone with no one, right?

00:04:08.240 So if you would be able to get rid of Trudeau, who's his successor?

00:04:12.480 Chrystia Freeland, you're going to try that one on?

00:04:14.700 How about Melanie Jolie?

00:04:17.280 Mark Carney, who makes Michael Ignatieff look authentic?

00:04:21.360 Nah.

00:04:22.200 So how does he stay on?

00:04:24.380 How does he justify it?

00:04:25.480 I suppose one thing is because who else could do it?

00:04:27.760 But the other is, I think, and somebody's saying he's delusional, but I actually don't think so.

00:04:34.140 My theory is that Justin Trudeau truly, truly doesn't care what other people say, doesn't care about polls, doesn't care about his own MPs and his own cabinets, because he's not actually a Democrat.

00:04:48.860 He's not a liberal in the traditional sense of the term.

00:04:52.040 He doesn't really care if he's liked or not.

00:04:54.600 He has that from his father, sort of an arrogant disdain.

00:04:57.860 He doesn't care if his own cabinet likes him.

00:05:00.260 He doesn't even talk to his own cabinet.

00:05:02.200 There's former cabinet ministers in the Trudeau government who say that in their entire career they spoke one-on-one with Trudeau, like maybe once.

00:05:10.140 He doesn't care about his own team.

00:05:13.380 He's an autocrat in the literal meaning of that word, one-man rule.

00:05:17.780 He's a kind of communist in the sense that he believes in power by any means.

00:05:22.160 So what does he care about what polls say?

00:05:25.600 Because polls can't stop him from being the prime minister.

00:05:27.760 As long as he can manipulate and control Jagmeet Singh, he remains the prime minister, whether he's at 1% in the polls or 90% in the polls.

00:05:34.860 Like, why would he actually care?

00:05:36.420 I suppose even communists like to hear praise and like to hear that they're loved.

00:05:43.480 That's why they have so much propaganda of loving the dear leader.

00:05:48.320 And Trudeau claims, with a straight face, that regular Canadians tell him they still want him.

00:05:55.440 I mean, remember what he told our friend Kian Bextie when Bextie bumped into him in Tofino?

00:06:01.620 Bextie was looking for Trudeau on holiday and he found him.

00:06:04.680 Remember that moment when Bextie said, why are you hiding from your caucus?

00:06:10.320 Why are you going to run again?

00:06:12.060 Trudeau said with a straight face, no, no, people really want him. Take a look.

00:06:14.960 Are you looking for a replacement right now?

00:06:17.040 No, I am absolutely not.

00:06:18.720 I am running in the next election.

00:06:21.380 Are you concerned at all about your poll numbers?

00:06:23.520 No, I am not.

00:06:24.420 Other than his own staff, is it true?

00:06:28.640 Could it possibly be true that wherever he goes, people say they love him?

00:06:34.480 I'm not quite so sure.

00:06:36.700 But then I saw this on Twitter the other day, this beautiful, gorgeous, soft focus video.

00:06:44.740 Justin Trudeau being welcomed warmly in Antigonish, Nova Scotia.

00:06:49.880 Take a look.

00:06:50.400 Today, we are very excited to welcome a very special guest to Peace by Chocolate.

00:06:59.960 You're the next winner.

00:07:01.000 I take the full responsibility.

00:07:02.460 I always do.

00:07:03.100 Well, you heard it there.

00:07:22.200 That young man is excited to welcome a very special guest.

00:07:26.880 That's a great video, high production values, beautiful camera, nice editing.

00:07:32.520 I don't know if you noticed, but the public was shooed out of the store.

00:07:36.180 It was basically the owner and his staff.

00:07:38.320 There was this moment where some members of the public were on the other side of a plate glass window.

00:07:43.780 They weren't allowed in.

00:07:44.860 So that was published to the Internet by Peace by Chocolate.

00:07:49.680 But I'm pretty sure that that video would have been shot by Trudeau's prime minister's office.

00:07:54.620 So that's curious to me.

00:07:56.180 Were the assets of the federal government and the Canadian government used to make a promo video for this chocolate company?

00:08:03.120 And the answer is, of course they were.

00:08:05.420 And by the way, Trudeau published something similar on his Twitter feed at the same time.

00:08:11.580 And you can see that here.

00:08:13.420 He says, Tarek's story represents the best of Canada.

00:08:18.340 He came to Nova Scotia in 2015 as a Syrian refugee.

00:08:21.700 He hoped to rebuild his family's chocolate business here.

00:08:24.740 And yesterday, I visited him and his wife Mila at their Peace by Chocolate store on the Halifax waterfront,

00:08:31.000 one of their two locations.

00:08:32.320 I think the timing of this little love affair on Twitter is not coincidental.

00:08:38.720 I mentioned the by-election earlier and how Muslims are boycotting it because they want Trudeau to be more pro-Hamas. 0.73

00:08:44.520 But who is Peace by Chocolate?

00:08:46.000 Who is that Tarek had-had guy?

00:08:49.180 That's his name.

00:08:50.380 Well, luckily there's a movie about him.

00:08:53.420 So here, watch the first half a minute or so of the movie trailer.

00:09:02.320 You must be Tarek.

00:09:04.880 Oh! 0.60

00:09:07.300 Is it that cold?

00:09:08.740 That's Canada, hon.

00:09:10.680 Welcome to Antigone, your new home. 0.99

00:09:12.660 How's she going by, eh?

00:09:14.540 Where's the town?

00:09:15.540 This is the town, bud.

00:09:16.520 I want you to move our sponsorship to Toronto.

00:09:20.840 It's this or it can't be Lebanon.

00:09:22.880 And we'll do whatever we can to help, but in 12 months' time, you're going to be on your own.

00:09:27.800 Here was the best chocolatier in Syria.

00:09:29.720 Mmm! 0.89

00:09:30.660 These chocolates are amazing.

00:09:32.240 Oh my God, they're so good.

00:09:33.440 Tell Papa I have an idea.

00:09:35.000 You guys should know what you have here.

00:09:36.120 They make the best chocolate.

00:09:37.680 Mark my words.

00:09:38.160 Your story is the new Canadian dream.

00:09:43.940 That's a great line for a movie.

00:09:46.480 You're going to be on your own, except that part isn't true because he has not been on his own.

00:09:53.440 He was brought over by Trudeau in the 2015 election, but Trudeau has never let go.

00:09:59.120 Now, Trudeau has always been there for Tarek and his chocolate store with your money.

00:10:06.740 That's something that didn't appear in either Trudeau's or Had Had's Twitter feed now did it.

00:10:13.800 Close to half a million tax dollars have been firehosed at that little chocolate shop.

00:10:23.740 Again and again and again and again and again.

00:10:26.900 It's not a high-tech company.

00:10:29.980 It's not something critical like a health company or housing.

00:10:34.980 It's just a little retail store selling chocolate, and that's almost half a million dollars in free money to a Syrian migrant to open up a retail shop.

00:10:45.600 It must be nice.

00:10:47.600 With half a million bucks, you can pretty much be the worst businessman in the world, and that will pay for your staff.

00:10:55.520 Now, do you see why Trudeau had such a friendly greeting?

00:11:00.620 Oh, and Had Had knows how Trudeau works.

00:11:03.260 I think we all know how Trudeau works.

00:11:06.080 Trudeau needs his cut.

00:11:07.780 He'll take his commission.

00:11:09.200 Look at this.

00:11:10.600 Went to the Elections Canada donations page.

00:11:13.460 It's a searchable website.

00:11:14.740 You type in the name of anyone, and it shows the donations they've made.

00:11:18.920 And I typed in Tarek Hadhad, and I selected the Liberal Party, and I said all years.

00:11:24.800 And he's only been in Canada for 10 years, and I presume he hasn't been a citizen immediately.

00:11:30.660 So scroll down.

00:11:31.840 Keep going.

00:11:33.280 Keep going.

00:11:34.480 Keep going.

00:11:35.480 Every single one of those entries is a donation.

00:11:38.640 I counted.

00:11:39.220 I lost count, so I had to start again.

00:11:41.600 I counted 118 different donations to the Liberal Party of Canada.

00:11:49.260 That guy, who Trudeau shoveled almost a half a million dollars to, has repaid the favor by recirculating the money.

00:11:57.780 It looks like he's on some sort of monthly payment plan.

00:12:00.460 A lot of those are 60 bucks just automatically.

00:12:02.860 He's given over 100 donations.

00:12:07.480 He's giving all the time, like monthly protection money to the mob.

00:12:11.480 He pays his vigorous to Justin Trudeau.

00:12:16.800 It's thousands of dollars to Trudeau.

00:12:19.100 But in return, Trudeau gives him hundreds of thousands of dollars.

00:12:23.440 This is how it works.

00:12:25.080 Keep the riffraff out of the store. 1.00

00:12:26.600 We have a propaganda film to make.

00:12:28.320 Have a fake, phony embrace between two men.

00:12:31.420 Film it in soft focus.

00:12:33.380 And please, no one mention the money.

00:12:36.600 That's Trudeau's fantasy world.

00:12:39.220 Just don't mention donations or grants.

00:12:44.620 That's the Disney world Trudeau has built around himself at great expense to delude himself.

00:12:51.060 If you think that's isolated, though, it's not.

00:12:55.700 In fact, you probably see people who take money from Trudeau every day.

00:12:58.900 They just, like Tarek Haddad and his chocolate company, don't mention it out loud.

00:13:03.440 Remember that 99.9% of Canadian journalists get paid just like Tarek Haddad does.

00:13:11.240 Not quite as much, but the average Canadian journalist gets about $30,000 in subsidies a year from Trudeau.

00:13:20.580 So they do his propaganda work for him, too, just like this chocolate guy.

00:13:26.380 So that's Trudeau's world.

00:13:28.780 He bribes and pays off everyone around him to tell him how great he is.

00:13:32.340 But also on Twitter a couple of days ago, let me show you the real world, because there's not enough money to bribe everyone.

00:13:40.380 You need some people to take the money from before you give it to your friends.

00:13:44.440 So Trudeau made the mistake of going to the real world at a steel mill with real people who work for a living, 0.65

00:13:50.920 not just would-be movie stars making movies about themselves in a chocolate shop using government cash.

00:13:58.300 Real people.

00:14:00.140 And here's how that went.

00:14:02.340 Hey, how's it going?

00:14:03.400 Find your spot.

00:14:03.820 Just one of the little heads.

00:14:05.200 Five minutes.

00:14:06.080 We've got donuts over here if you want to thank you for your hard work.

00:14:11.640 I can bring some for my kids here.

00:14:13.320 Hey, the 25% tariffs we just brought in on Chinese skills, can I help you out?

00:14:17.600 That's going to keep my job, yeah.

00:14:19.440 What about the 40% taxes I'm paying and I don't have a doctor?

00:14:24.640 The $400 million in the investment card means you're going to have a job for many, many years.

00:14:29.340 I think you're only here for another year.

00:14:31.060 We won't sit around probably another year.

00:14:32.400 Well, that's what elections are for. 0.85

00:14:33.960 That's right, that's right.

00:14:34.740 And I look forward to everyone exercising the right to vote.

00:14:37.600 Yep.

00:14:37.940 And the basic choice, we're going to invest in you and your job.

00:14:41.280 I don't believe you for a second.

00:14:42.520 Dental care?

00:14:45.140 Do you know anyone who got dental care?

00:14:46.620 Yeah, I pay for it myself.

00:14:48.040 Okay.

00:14:48.480 We're like three years behind.

00:14:49.320 Because you have a job in coverage.

00:14:50.360 Yeah, four people in my family.

00:14:52.140 We've got seniors.

00:14:52.480 Every time we go for a dental visit, it's cost me about $50 in my pocket per person.

00:14:56.980 Okay.

00:14:57.380 Why?

00:14:58.140 I have a good job.

00:14:59.700 You're not really doing anything for us, Justin.

00:15:01.520 Well, actually, we just invested, so half a million people hadn't been to the dentist.

00:15:06.520 Yeah.

00:15:06.660 Got to go to the dentist over the past few months.

00:15:08.040 Probably like my neighbor that doesn't go to work because she's lazy. 1.00

00:15:11.480 No.

00:15:11.720 She just doesn't go to work. 1.00

00:15:12.740 She lives the same way.

00:15:13.440 Most Canadians try to stick up to each other.

00:15:15.260 And that's what we're going to keep doing.

00:15:16.200 Yeah.

00:15:16.500 Good luck.

00:15:16.980 And prepare your family soon.

00:15:18.100 No, I'm good.

00:15:18.620 Thank you.

00:15:19.080 All right.

00:15:19.340 Have a nice day.

00:15:19.900 Have a good day, sir.

00:15:21.280 All right.

00:15:23.360 All right.

00:15:23.720 The other guys got the donuts.

00:15:25.120 Excellent.

00:15:25.420 Yeah, they forgot to put the real people behind a glass wall, didn't they?

00:15:30.220 Yeah, that guy wouldn't even shake Trudeau's hand.

00:15:33.160 But would you?

00:15:34.480 I mean, Trudeau grinds that guy down and then lies to his face. 0.99

00:15:38.420 Probably calls him a racist or a transphobe, too. 0.97

00:15:41.100 Surprised that didn't come up there.

00:15:43.260 Trudeau really didn't know what to say to the guy.

00:15:45.380 He pivots around and says, whoa, where are those donuts?

00:15:49.020 And who do you think had more investigations into them and into their background

00:15:54.800 after these two Twitter events?

00:15:57.060 Tarek Haddad, Trudeau's bought and paid for prop and loyal donor?

00:16:02.680 Or a regular Joe, who's just sick of it all?

00:16:06.720 Who do you think our media did more digging into?

00:16:11.360 Yeah.

00:16:12.000 Stay with us.

00:16:12.920 More ahead.

00:16:13.400 More ahead.

00:16:24.800 David Menzies for Rebel News here in downtown Toronto.

00:16:29.380 And I'm here to take in a demonstration by those Sikhs who support a Calistan homeland back in India.

00:16:40.140 And the theme of this demonstration is I am Dilawar.

00:16:45.520 Who is Dilawar?

00:16:46.640 Well, Dilawar is Dilawar Singh Babar, who on this day in 1995 carried out a suicide bombing

00:16:56.960 in which he was able to assassinate the chief minister of Punjab, Biyant Singh.

00:17:03.500 And, of course, it is interesting if you do live in Canada when it comes to the Calistani movement

00:17:10.480 because we must never forget that back in 1985 it was a Calistani terrorist

00:17:17.380 who was allegedly responsible for the bombing of Air India.

00:17:23.100 That was a flight that was blown out of the sky by a hidden bomb en route from Montreal to London, England.

00:17:32.080 And some 329 people were killed that day, most of them Canadian.

00:17:37.960 And that ranks as the biggest act of terrorism to ever affect Canada.

00:17:45.980 So a lot of people are very cautious when it comes to those who support the Calistan movement.

00:17:53.260 Now, I understand there is a speaker for the group who is going to give us an interview.

00:17:58.380 So when the demonstration settles down, we'll go over, we'll talk to him.

00:18:03.540 And Rebel News, what can I say, folks?

00:18:05.460 We're all about giving the other side of the story.

00:18:08.840 So we shall talk to him.

00:18:10.640 And it doesn't look like a rumoured counter-demonstration is showing up.

00:18:15.460 But if it does, we'll be here for that as well.

00:18:18.160 Can you tell us what this demonstration outside the Indian consulate is all about?

00:18:39.680 So today marks, obviously, a major day in our history.

00:18:45.560 So August 31st, 1995, the chief minister of Punjab at the time, who was a government tool,

00:18:53.420 his name was Byant Singh.

00:18:54.860 He looked like a Sikh, but he was being used by the Indian government, the Indian system.

00:19:00.700 And that chief minister orchestrated the deaths of thousands and thousands of Sikh youth.

00:19:07.920 So a complete generation was wiped out from village to village from 1984 to early to basically the mid-90s.

00:19:17.220 And he died by a suicide bomber, is that correct?

00:19:19.820 Suicide bomber, yes.

00:19:20.640 And the individual who decided to give up his life was actually a police officer.

00:19:26.120 He was a Sikh, but his job was as a police officer working in law enforcement.

00:19:31.680 And he saw all the atrocities, the rapes, the murders, extrajudicial killings.

00:19:37.120 They were dumping bodies in rivers.

00:19:39.200 And who is they?

00:19:40.280 The Indian government.

00:19:41.200 So they used mobs and had the police and basically all the tools at their disposal to basically orchestrate these killings, kidnappings, killings, murders, rapes.

00:19:52.940 To this day, an individual human rights advocate by the name of Jaswan Singh Kalara,

00:19:59.820 who was working very hard to basically uncover these mass graves that India had in Punjab and throughout India,

00:20:09.120 where bodies of these, you know, these Sikh youth were buried.

00:20:13.440 And these are bodies that they later found, piles of 25,000 at a time,

00:20:18.560 where the Indian government raped, murdered, and extrajudicially killed them at the hands of the police.

00:20:24.520 And has this been verified, sir?

00:20:26.020 Yes, yes.

00:20:26.520 You could go on the Kalara organization website, insaf.org.

00:20:31.800 They have a map of India and all the places where documentation has been allocated

00:20:37.860 and all the documentation has been collected as to where the mass graves were

00:20:42.360 and where some of the bodies were found.

00:20:44.280 And they have testimonials from the families that are still trying to find where the bodies of their youths were.

00:20:50.740 So anyone who was military age, you could say from 13 all the way up to 30 years old, was targeted.

00:20:57.920 They were kidnapped from their village.

00:20:59.580 You just had to look like a Sikh. 1.00

00:21:01.720 And if you looked like a Sikh and you were of military age or young enough to defend yourself, 0.99

00:21:06.400 you were kidnapped or murdered.

00:21:07.660 And that's tragic, if that is indeed correct.

00:21:10.940 But I'm just curious, Dilawar Singh Babar, that is the name of the suicide bomber.

00:21:15.360 What would you say, sir, to people who would feel uncomfortable

00:21:19.420 by people lauding the actions of what many would consider to be a terrorist?

00:21:26.320 That's your definition.

00:21:27.760 But if you look at why he decided to sacrifice his life after looking at the numbers,

00:21:33.980 again, you can go and verify.

00:21:35.560 There are hundreds of thousands.

00:21:37.180 The actual number they give is 30,000.

00:21:39.900 But there are way more because Jaswan Sinkalra, before his kidnapping,

00:21:44.220 was uncovering all these mass graves.

00:21:47.040 And before he could go any further and continue his human rights work,

00:21:50.940 he was also kidnapped and killed by the police

00:21:53.480 because they had found out that he's doing all this investigation on his own

00:21:57.500 and actually finding these mass graves.

00:22:00.200 So you could just think about it.

00:22:01.800 When thousands of your own people are dying at the hands of the government

00:22:05.060 and you're going to say one of the individuals who couldn't take it anymore

00:22:10.000 and understood that if he doesn't take a step or take any action,

00:22:13.680 because you have to understand,

00:22:14.940 the government was in no shape going to arrest any of the mobs,

00:22:18.540 put them in jail, give them a fair trial to sentence them.

00:22:22.300 They were running rampant.

00:22:23.600 So, in essence, one life saved thousands of lives in the future.

00:22:28.240 That's how we look at it.

00:22:29.980 Speaking of loss of life, sir,

00:22:31.580 we can't talk about the Calistani movement, I don't think,

00:22:35.420 without making mention of what happened in 1985.

00:22:37.940 Air India, 329 mostly Canadians were killed that day

00:22:45.020 by a bomb planted on the aircraft going from Montreal to London.

00:22:49.420 Do you think that act of terrorism is somehow justified?

00:22:55.680 No, we don't advocate any terrorism.

00:22:58.640 And the Calistan movement now, the 2020 referendum campaign,

00:23:02.520 which began on the premise of peaceful democratic balloting and voting,

00:23:07.460 we believe in the ballot over the bullet,

00:23:09.460 whether that bullet takes the shape of a bomb.

00:23:11.900 We don't believe in any of that.

00:23:13.140 But to your point, we understand that there was evidence

00:23:16.980 related to the 1985 Air India bombing that was never uncovered.

00:23:21.080 So, Sukh Taliwal, a Liberal MP at this moment,

00:23:25.300 has tabled a petition to reopen the investigation

00:23:28.700 because there are many questions that are yet to be answered

00:23:32.200 because many Indian officials,

00:23:34.400 they de-boarded the plane and took their family members off.

00:23:37.800 Many of them knew, they were warned ahead of time,

00:23:41.820 and many of the consulate members here in Toronto and Vancouver

00:23:45.960 basically left their posts during that period of time

00:23:48.960 when the actual bombing took place.

00:23:51.920 So, respectfully, hasn't there already been two public inquiries

00:23:55.880 that, you know, indicate the mastermind of this terror act?

00:24:01.740 I believe I have his name somewhere.

00:24:05.560 Yes, thank you.

00:24:06.240 Okay, if you want to go with that route

00:24:08.500 and say Tilwinder Singh Pramard did what he did,

00:24:11.120 why was he killed by the Indian police

00:24:13.600 and why was a co-conspirator of his welcomed to India in 2017?

00:24:19.080 Well, I don't have the answers to those questions, but...

00:24:21.580 Let me complete my answer.

00:24:23.680 Rabdaman Singh Malik, who was the financier of the 1985 bombing,

00:24:28.340 you said he killed 329 Canadian citizens.

00:24:32.480 We also say that's a tragic event.

00:24:34.540 We love Canada, we are Canadian citizens ourselves,

00:24:37.760 but why was he welcomed back to India by the Modi government in a red carpet event?

00:24:43.360 If you're saying somebody blew up your national airline flight with your passengers,

00:24:49.180 whether they be Canadian or whoever, they're indigenous to India, are they not?

00:24:53.100 They're also partly your citizens.

00:24:54.640 So how do you welcome the quote-unquote financier back to India in a red carpet dinner?

00:25:00.300 Well, I don't have the answer to that question.

00:25:02.720 But again, we're saying reopen the investigation because we're not afraid to have these questions answered.

00:25:08.200 The only people objecting against it is the Indian government through Canadian MPs.

00:25:12.980 Like, there are MPs working on behalf of India's interests, which are uncovered.

00:25:18.420 If you read the securities reports and all the intelligence reports,

00:25:22.600 there's been interference and infiltration by the Indian government in our cabinet.

00:25:27.840 So, sir, are you implying then that the Indian government was ultimately the mastermind behind the Air India bombing?

00:25:37.160 Yes, because we've been saying that since the 1980s.

00:25:40.440 And you can see with the recent assassination attempt on Gurpathwan Singh Panu in New York City,

00:25:46.580 Nikhil Gupta caught red-handed, brought back from Czech Republic to Brooklyn,

00:25:50.180 who he will face charges in court in the U.S.,

00:25:53.920 an attempted assassination on Inderjeet Singh here in Brampton, Ontario, twice.

00:25:59.740 And you already know, Paihardeep Singh Nijar,

00:26:02.540 who was assassinated on Gurdwara property in Vancouver, British Columbia.

00:26:06.780 So, if they're the biggest democracy in the world,

00:26:10.400 and they believe in the balloting process,

00:26:13.500 why are they so worried about our referendum campaign?

00:26:16.300 It's a democratic campaign.

00:26:18.180 It's peaceful.

00:26:18.900 We're giving you our political opinion and saying,

00:26:22.460 our people are balloting in favour of our political opinion,

00:26:26.740 which is we want Punjab, the state of Punjab, to become a sovereign state.

00:26:31.340 And tell me, on that point,

00:26:33.260 I guess that's ultimately what you and your colleagues are here to argue,

00:26:36.820 to have a sovereign Punjab state, a Khalistan state.

00:26:41.160 How alive is that movement in India?

00:26:44.060 I have had sources in the Indian community here in Canada

00:26:46.720 say that it's more of a thing in Canada, believe it or not, than it is in India.

00:26:51.720 Key word, you said Indian sources.

00:26:53.880 They're ranked 167th in the world.

00:26:56.480 They're media.

00:26:57.520 So, Rebel News, I've worked with Ezra myself.

00:27:00.060 We are great friends.

00:27:00.880 I know them really well, and shout out to Lincoln J as well, good friend of mine.

00:27:05.880 But I would tell you, they're ranked 167th in the world.

00:27:09.180 So, who are you going to believe?

00:27:10.240 You're an independent journalist.

00:27:12.100 Let's get to the bottom of it.

00:27:13.340 Support the petitions to reopen the Air India bombing investigation.

00:27:17.080 Understand that we have referendum campaigns, which Ezra showed up when it was occurring

00:27:22.580 in Toronto at the Gore Meadows Community Centre.

00:27:26.200 He covered it really well.

00:27:27.300 Thankful to him, and thank you for his service.

00:27:30.020 But we need to get to the bottom of this.

00:27:32.000 The idea that in India there is no movement, why are our Sikhs languishing in jail?

00:27:37.940 They've done their sentences.

00:27:39.600 Some of them have been given life sentences for carrying literature, books related to

00:27:45.140 the Khalistan movement, which is factual history.

00:27:48.140 So, if India is saying they did not genocide six, that sort of coincides with genocide deniers

00:27:54.460 of the Jewish people, right?

00:27:55.920 We understand certain things happened in history which are factual.

00:28:00.020 What India is trying to do, they're trying to hide that history of their genocidal tendencies. 1.00

00:28:04.060 So, are you tying, say, the Holocaust to what happened at the Golden Temple in the 1980s?

00:28:10.860 I'm saying a Sikh genocide took place, and we know in history the Holocaust took place. 0.81

00:28:17.120 If it's factual information, let it be known.

00:28:20.220 Don't try to cover it up.

00:28:21.800 To this day, there's been a genocide, an econocide on Punjab.

00:28:26.140 Economically, farmers are committing suicide.

00:28:28.920 From 2015, over 100,000 farmers have committed suicide.

00:28:33.140 2015 to today, there's a rampant drug problem.

00:28:37.920 So, heroin, cocaine, distributed to the youth.

00:28:41.020 Children as young as nine years old are getting access to drugs.

00:28:44.740 There's no police intervention.

00:28:46.520 A lot of the Sikhs that are jailed are not given fair trials.

00:28:50.620 And, you know, their sentences are complete for whatever they, whatever quote-unquote crime

00:28:55.740 they committed.

00:28:56.480 But they're doing double sentences.

00:28:58.000 Some Sikhs have been in jail for 30-plus years without a single hearing, fair trial,

00:29:03.780 or any charge sheet against them.

00:29:05.680 Sir, hypothetical question.

00:29:08.780 If, say, in the future, an independent Kalistani state was established, would you and your

00:29:16.280 friends here move back to it?

00:29:17.900 Oh, hell yeah, I would.

00:29:18.980 Because I would take my skill set, my resources, and help develop my country.

00:29:24.040 And I'd like to remind you and the public as well, a lot of people think Kalistan will

00:29:29.400 be only a state for the Sikhs.

00:29:31.460 We're talking the indigenous people of Punjab.

00:29:34.060 So whether you're Hindu, Muslim, Jaini, Buddhist, Sikh, or whoever, if you lived in Punjab and

00:29:42.300 you call Punjab home, you're welcome to come live in Kalistan. 1.00

00:29:46.100 How likely, though, is it, sir?

00:29:48.080 I mean, being a realist, is that an achievable goal?

00:29:51.060 Or are we really talking about a political pipe dream here?

00:29:54.580 Why would you consider it a political pipe dream?

00:29:57.020 Because at the end of the day, India is the one creating this transnational repression, 0.98

00:30:02.160 trying to kill our activists.

00:30:03.740 If it wasn't making progress, what has got them to the point of becoming so desperate?

00:30:09.660 It's successful, which is why they're killing activists or attempting to kill activists abroad

00:30:14.740 anyway.

00:30:15.740 But you're kind of making my point.

00:30:17.240 I don't think the government in India is open at all to the idea of an independent

00:30:23.500 Kalistani state.

00:30:24.820 Look, they don't have to be open.

00:30:26.640 The sovereign state of Punjab, the country of Punjab, will be built and made on the will 0.90

00:30:31.260 of the Sikhs.

00:30:32.680 We dictate what happens.

00:30:34.080 So India can try whatever they want. 0.99

00:30:36.100 We understand there have been international referendums before.

00:30:38.900 Catalonia, Scotland, and countries have done referendums.

00:30:42.080 So we know the West is behind us.

00:30:44.340 They support the Sikhs and understand that because of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms

00:30:49.640 and the constitutional freedoms in the United States, freedom of speech, freedom of expression,

00:30:54.840 freedom to live with liberty, express your religion, and the pursuit of happiness.

00:30:59.020 These are all elements of a free society.

00:31:01.500 So if you're a true democracy, the question you should be asking, why are they not allowing

00:31:06.460 the referendum to be held?

00:31:08.440 If India is the world's biggest democracy, as they like to report to the world, why are 1.00

00:31:14.460 they so hell-bent on blocking this referendum?

00:31:16.820 It's a democratic process.

00:31:18.340 Sir, you mentioned the Liberal MP that wants to reopen the Air India investigation.

00:31:23.840 For other politicians in Canada, would it be safe to assume that you are supporters of

00:31:30.640 NDP leader Jagmeet Singh?

00:31:32.600 I understand he is pro-Khalistani.

00:31:35.620 Look, the Sikhs for Justice organization and this movement for Khalistan doesn't pin itself

00:31:41.740 to any party.

00:31:43.360 We are solely our own movement.

00:31:45.560 We are exercising our liberty to the rights that Canada provides and peacefully carrying

00:31:50.700 out these processes.

00:31:51.580 Every time there's a referendum, the Sikh community puts up the funds and the resources

00:31:56.200 to hold those polling stations.

00:31:58.920 So it's not a cost to the country.

00:32:00.820 It's not a cost to the taxpayer.

00:32:02.940 The community itself is coming together to fund this whole entire process.

00:32:07.320 And we believe in our own will and the will of the Western nations who understand what

00:32:12.740 kind of people we are, law-abiding citizens.

00:32:15.260 We contribute to society.

00:32:16.580 You go to any of our Gordwaras 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, can get a free warm meal.

00:32:22.180 Safety is provided to you.

00:32:23.580 So these are elements that we live by and we understand.

00:32:27.480 We love Canada.

00:32:28.400 I'm born here and I'm willing to go back to Khalistan because I understand a lot of my

00:32:33.800 resources and skills that I have developed in Canada.

00:32:37.200 I've been given the free will to develop in Canada.

00:32:39.380 They'll be useful back home just to get the starting, just to get it going, right?

00:32:44.980 Sir, if I can ask you, though, I mean, I think, well, it's different for you.

00:32:48.200 You were born in Canada.

00:32:49.140 You're a Canadian citizen.

00:32:50.080 But I think the whole idea behind multiculturalism is that we welcome people in from all over

00:32:55.960 the world and you can live here.

00:32:58.700 You can take advantage of our social programs.

00:33:00.800 No problem.

00:33:01.740 Kind of the unspoken quid pro quo agreement is that you'll behave yourself, obey the law.

00:33:08.200 You won't import grievances from the old world.

00:33:12.340 What would you say to those Canadians that say, you know, why is my country being used

00:33:18.100 as a battleground for the debate over a Kalisani home world?

00:33:23.280 Look, at the end of the day, if we're being targeted and actively murdered and jailed back

00:33:29.200 home, it's the duty of the six abroad to raise their voice.

00:33:33.220 And a lot of people will say, why is our country being used?

00:33:36.140 The referendum is an international campaign.

00:33:38.860 It's been held in Italy.

00:33:41.220 The next voting is November, New Zealand.

00:33:44.920 It's been done, voting's been done in Toronto, Vancouver, Milan, and all over the world.

00:33:51.500 England as well.

00:33:52.880 And so it's just the duty of the six outside to keep raising their voice because back home,

00:34:00.140 the repressive regime and the system of India is such an occupational system that if you raise

00:34:06.920 your voice or send a text message or share any form of media, your accounts are banned.

00:34:12.400 Sir, I think those were my questions.

00:34:14.700 I want to thank you for your time.

00:34:16.020 Is there anything you would like to say that I might have missed that you feel is relevant?

00:34:20.720 So the only thing I'd like to tell the Canadian people, we are law-abiding citizens.

00:34:25.400 We held a car rally today.

00:34:27.260 It didn't break any laws.

00:34:28.520 Anytime we have a referendum polls, we don't break any laws.

00:34:32.200 You are welcome to come participate in those events.

00:34:36.220 Tomorrow is our Khalsa Day Parade in Mississauga.

00:34:39.200 So any of our public watching, it'll be from Airport Road around Derry Morningstar Road and

00:34:45.660 go in one circular route and you can join the Khalsa Day Parade tomorrow and see droves

00:34:51.760 of six peacefully, you know, celebrating their heritage, not only Sikh heritage, but Canadian

00:34:58.220 heritage, because again, liberty, liberty to practice your faith is a given right.

00:35:03.340 So.

00:35:15.660 Hey, welcome back.

00:35:16.780 Your letters to me on the Maxime Bernier interview.

00:35:19.800 McLean Classic said, I can't vote PPC.

00:35:22.120 It's too important to be rid of Trudeau.

00:35:24.160 I hear you, but sorry, Max.

00:35:25.600 On a side note, a conservative majority government with a PPC opposition will be heaven, but it'll

00:35:30.620 never happen.

00:35:31.440 Don't waste your votes, people.

00:35:33.620 Listen, I believed in giving Maxime Bernier a platform.

00:35:38.920 First of all, because he was the plaintiff in that important civil rights lawsuit that our

00:35:44.160 Supreme Court refuses to hear, but I wanted to hear what he had to say, because I think

00:35:48.440 every month, Pierre Polyev is getting stronger, not just in the polls, but he's finding his

00:35:53.800 feet and finding some courage, slowly talking about immigration, slowly talking about issues

00:35:59.200 that were once too politically correct, and I wanted to hear what Maxime Bernier had to

00:36:02.540 say, and he said, look, elect me to hold Polyev to account.

00:36:08.780 But I share some skepticism in our first-past-the-potes system.

00:36:16.420 I just don't know if it's built for that.

00:36:18.420 It reminds me of the conversation we had with, well, you know, anyone from the UK about Nigel

00:36:24.900 Farage's party, very principled party.

00:36:26.700 I like Nigel Farage a lot.

00:36:28.080 Four million votes, but they only got four or five seats.

00:36:31.440 That's how it is.

00:36:32.060 It came in second in nearly 100.

00:36:33.780 Eric Coagley says, seems to me that Max is one of the very few Canadian politicians who

00:36:39.840 have the testicular fortitude to follow through with his party's platform on immigration.

00:36:44.840 Well, that's my favorite thing about their party.

00:36:46.920 It used to be the fact that they stood against the COVID lockdowns.

00:36:49.720 Now their strong position on immigration is something I share.

00:36:54.380 And frankly, I think the number one issue that we have to work on, Pierre Polyev, is to

00:37:00.980 cut that number back, stop the inflow.

00:37:04.760 That's the first rule of holes.

00:37:05.940 When you're in one, stop digging.

00:37:07.820 But we've got to deport hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of people.

00:37:13.320 Well, that's our show for today.

00:37:15.160 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters to you at home,

00:37:19.320 good night and keep fighting for freedom.

00:37:21.440 We'll be right back.

Rebel News Podcast - September 03, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ The truth about Justin Trudeau's world of pure imagination

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