Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ There is no war in Canada. But Trudeau is using the war in Ukraine as an excuse to bring in censorship — in Canada

00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. In today's podcast, I talk about a terrifying announcement that was made late last

00:00:05.660 night by Canada as part of a coalition of a couple dozen countries. It's called the Freedom

00:00:13.280 Online Coalition, and that sounds wonderful, but that's like George Orwell talking about the

00:00:20.180 Ministry of Peace as the war ministry or the Ministry of Plenty in charge of starvation.

00:00:25.960 This Freedom Online Coalition is all about banning things from the internet using the Ukraine war

00:00:35.640 as the excuse. I will take you through their press release line by line. It's the most Orwellian

00:00:43.440 thing I think I've ever read that wasn't written by Orwell. Before I get to that, let me invite you

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00:01:26.760 Tonight, there is no war in Canada, but Trudeau is using the war in Ukraine

00:01:39.500 as an excuse to bring in censorship here in Canada. It's March 3rd, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:48.300 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:51.980 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:56.040 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:02:01.920 I showed you the other day how Justin Trudeau, through his censorship minister, Pablo Rodriguez,

00:02:13.520 pressured Canada's cable companies into banning Russia today from Canadian cable packages.

00:02:19.840 To be clear, there was no CRTC ruling. The CRTC stands for the Canadian Radio, Television,

00:02:26.320 and Telecommunications Commission. That's Canada's TV and radio and cell phone regulator.

00:02:31.160 That Trudeau wants to expand to the internet, of course. We'll talk more about that another day.

00:02:38.320 But my point is, it's a kind of court for TV stations, the CRTC. They decide a lot of things like

00:02:43.920 which TV stations are mandatory when you get a cable package and which are optional. Did you know that?

00:02:49.820 They decide how much cable companies can charge you for any given station. The CRTC is how they killed

00:02:56.760 the old Sun News Network, if you recall. They made absurd rulings against Sun News, denying them the

00:03:02.820 same regulatory status as Canada's left-wing news network. Stephen Harper didn't care enough to get

00:03:08.340 involved. It's unthinkable that a liberal prime minister would have allowed a left-leaning news

00:03:12.880 station to be killed that way on the eve of an election. Oh, well. I truly believe that the absence

00:03:17.840 of Sun News was a real reason why Harper lost the 2015 election. I wonder who gave him the advice to

00:03:24.460 let Sun News be killed. Anyway, sorry for that tangent, but my point stands Sun News was killed

00:03:30.620 by rulings of the CRTC, which you could call the TV court. It has the power to have hearings,

00:03:38.400 the power to issue rulings, orders really, that have the force of law. They have the power to create and

00:03:43.680 the power to destroy. Like a court, they're biased, they're left-wing, they're run by cronies, they are

00:03:48.660 corrupt. But at the end of the day, at least there is a process, a transparency, hearings.

00:03:56.500 Trudeau just skipped all that, skipped the whole process by basically demanding that the cable

00:04:01.200 companies ban Russia Today, the TV channel, and they all did. No hearings, no rulings, no transparency,

00:04:08.200 just the boss of a banana republic banning TV stations he didn't like. And everyone was fine

00:04:15.120 with that. No, that doesn't even do it justice. The media party was cheering for that, cheering.

00:04:20.560 As I said a few days ago, you can still find that TV channel Russia Today on the internet.

00:04:25.760 And these days, I think a lot of people know how to watch the internet on their smart TVs. There really

00:04:31.100 is a blurry line between what is internet and what is TV at all. So I think that people who want to find

00:04:36.360 it will, but it's still an obvious act of censorship to knock it off your cable package.

00:04:41.300 But the internet is now shutting down Russia Today as well. Google and YouTube just made that decision

00:04:48.460 as if they themselves are countries at war. Can I show you an example of a Russia Today report? Now, there

00:04:56.240 is no doubt that it has the Russian point of view, of course. But it also shows the Ukrainian point of

00:05:02.820 view and the American point of view. I'm going to show you one of their daily news summaries. It's

00:05:08.000 just over two minutes long. I want to show you the whole thing. I think you might be surprised

00:05:13.240 by how much airtime, say, the Ukrainian president gets. I say again, this is Russian propaganda. I know

00:05:20.800 that. Just like the CBC is Trudeau propaganda. I know that. But I think I actually learned more about

00:05:25.740 the real facts of the war from this Russia Today broadcast than I would have from Trudeau's CBC

00:05:32.120 state broadcaster or CNN in America. What do you think? Watch this. It's just two minutes long. And

00:05:39.000 tell me if you feel tricked by it. Day six of the Russian military offensive in Ukraine. Latest news and

00:05:46.380 updates. Ukraine and Russia react to the first day of negotiations.

00:05:50.440 We've discussed every topic on the agenda in detail and found certain points where we may gain

00:05:57.900 some common ground. Most importantly, we agreed to continue the negotiations. We'll meet at the

00:06:04.220 Polish-Belarus border in a few days. So far we don't have the result that we hoped for. Russia stated its

00:06:12.020 position, we voiced ours to stop this war. We will analyze what we've heard and decide on how to move to

00:06:17.760 the next round. EU announces new sanctions against Russian companies and citizens. Promises all-out 1.00

00:06:25.460 economic war. We are going to deliver a total economic and financial war against Russia. 0.87

00:06:31.760 We are going to provoke the collapse of the Russian economy. Hollywood halts all releases in Russia.

00:06:37.820 Disney, Sony Pictures and Warner Brothers join the ban. Russia condemns Western involvement.

00:06:43.260 Names it responsible for the escalation. Our goal is to protect the Russian Federation from military

00:06:51.340 threats from the Western states, which are trying to use Ukrainians in the fight against our country. 0.98

00:06:56.300 Ukraine asks International Criminal Court to launch probe into Russian offensive.

00:07:01.220 We call for every country in the world to immediately react to the criminal tactics of the aggressor and to

00:07:06.560 proclaim that Russia is conducting state terrorism. We demand that they are held responsible in the

00:07:11.800 international courts. Russia denies attacking civilian targets. Russian troops do not occupy

00:07:19.920 Ukrainian territory, take all measures to protect lives and security of civilians. I would like to

00:07:25.800 emphasize that we only strike military targets and only with high precision weapons. The Ukrainian side

00:07:31.740 does not shy away from using peaceful civilians as a human shield. Ukrainian ambassador hands in

00:07:38.020 application for EU membership. Demands immediate accession under a fast-track procedure.

00:07:44.420 We have earned our right to join the rest of Europe, as equals.

00:07:48.660 YouTube bans Russian-sponsored RT and Sputnik in Europe. Due to the ongoing war in Ukraine,

00:07:54.260 we're blocking YouTube channels connected to RT and Sputnik across Europe, effective immediately.

00:07:59.300 Sergei Lavrov says Russia doesn't intend to harm Ukrainian people.

00:08:02.740 For us, the life of every Russian or Ukrainian, Donetsk or Luhansk resident is no less valuable

00:08:09.860 than the life of a European or American. We do not intend in any way to infringe on the interests of

00:08:16.180 the citizens of Ukraine, with whom we are united not only by a common history, civilizational,

00:08:21.780 spiritual, cultural kinship, but also simply by blood, family ties.

00:08:26.100 The main thing is to stop the attempts of the temporary workers who illegally seized power in

00:08:32.100 Ukraine from betraying the fundamental interests of the Ukrainian people by turning their country 0.70

00:08:37.300 into anti-Russia, only to please the West. Now, there are some absurd statements in there.

00:08:42.580 Russia denying that it has taken any Ukrainian territory seems like fake news to me. I think that

00:08:49.700 Sergei Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, does what most diplomats do. In the famous words of

00:08:56.020 a British politician about 400 years ago, an ambassador is an honest gentleman sent to lie

00:09:04.180 abroad for the good of his country. There's a pun in there that we probably don't get.

00:09:08.020 He tells lies abroad, as in he lies in foreign countries, but lie abroad was actually what they

00:09:14.260 called it when a military ship would turn so that all of its cannons were aimed at the enemy to give

00:09:19.220 them abroad. So there was a pun there. I think Lavrov is a gentleman liar, of course. That's what

00:09:26.900 most diplomats are. But I think of recent US secretaries of state, like John Kerry or like

00:09:32.660 Hillary Clinton, who weighed in the other day. And I honestly don't know who's the bigger liar. 0.95

00:09:38.980 Here's Hillary Clinton with some advice that isn't really so much about what she would do in Ukraine,

00:09:44.340 but what she wants to do to Americans. She wants to silence Americans who disagree with her.

00:09:51.060 We have to also make sure that within our own country, we are calling out those people who

00:09:58.500 are giving aid and comfort to Vladimir Putin, who are talking about what a genius he is, what a smart

00:10:04.420 move it is, who are unfortunately being broadcast by Russian media, not only inside Russia, but in

00:10:14.820 Europe to demonstrate the division within our own country.

00:10:18.660 Look, there's propaganda on both sides. I have watched plenty of footage of Vladimir Zelensky,

00:10:24.340 the Ukrainian president, and I've watched a smaller amount of propaganda from the Russian side.

00:10:29.620 And of course, most of what I'm getting is a fog of rumors and gossip and lies that are not attributed

00:10:37.140 to anyone. And it's tough to find out what's real or not. I'm glad I could hear from all sides, by the

00:10:42.100 way. There's probably more than just two sides in this battle. I don't trust any government to tell me

00:10:48.340 the whole story, not even my own, of course. And I certainly don't trust the media to either. I always

00:10:53.780 knew that, but the way the media party has acted as an auxiliary to the government during the past two

00:10:59.060 years, and especially during the Truckers' Rebellion, they've really disqualified themselves from being

00:11:02.980 the arbiters of truth in my mind. To me, the only answer is to read and watch as much as you can

00:11:09.380 from all sources. I've told you my point of view. I'm against the war. I see Putin as the aggressor.

00:11:14.900 He's a former KGB. I see him intent on establishing a new Russian empire. I see Biden's weakness as a kind

00:11:22.020 of provocation to tyrants, including Russia and China. I am concerned about the civilians in Ukraine.

00:11:27.620 And I must say, I'm also aware that NATO has been particularly bellicose

00:11:33.060 towards Russia, including wild military threats and calls for regime change.

00:11:38.020 My opinions are subject to change as I learn more, as the facts change, as we slowly understand what's

00:11:44.740 actually happening. This whole thing is just a week old. Are you completely certain of what's going on?

00:11:51.060 I am not. I'm on Ukraine's side largely because I see them as the civilians who are suffering at the

00:11:58.340 hands of a larger, brutal regime. But I'm not a cheerleader for the war, and I am certainly not for

00:12:03.620 escalating it. Is it okay to say that I hope the peace talks are fruitful? Because I am. But throughout

00:12:11.140 all this, I reserve the right as a Canadian to make up my own mind, including how important it all is to

00:12:18.020 me as a Canadian. I don't know the answer to that yet. And to do that, I want to read and view

00:12:22.260 information as widely as I can, including even laughably false propaganda.

00:12:27.860 I do ask that because, you know, given Canada's support of Ukraine in this current crisis with

00:12:35.380 Russia, I don't know if it's far-fetched to ask, but there is concern that Russian actors could be

00:12:43.220 continuing to fuel things as this protest grows, but perhaps even instigating it from the outset.

00:12:51.220 Well, again, I'm going to defer to our partners in the public safety,

00:12:55.540 the trained officials and experts in that area.

00:12:58.500 Yeah, that's an insane conspiracy theory. And yet I don't want the CBC banned for it. I mean,

00:13:04.020 I don't want to have to pay my taxes to support the CBC, but I would never say fire that woman. I 0.95

00:13:09.540 would never say take the CBC off cable packages and kick them off YouTube because they're liars. 0.96

00:13:15.860 They are liars, but can't I be the judge of that? And maybe I want to hear what liars are lying about 0.96

00:13:22.260 as a sort of intel about what the bad guys are thinking. I despise the CBC's propaganda,

00:13:27.780 but have you ever heard me call for them to be banned either on TV or the internet? Well,

00:13:33.540 just look at this. Just out last night, look at this announcement here by the Canadian government.

00:13:40.260 statement on behalf of Canada, chair of the Freedom Online Coalition, a call to action on

00:13:47.220 state-sponsored disinformation in Ukraine. And you can see this is from Global Affairs Canada,

00:13:52.340 that's the foreign ministry. Freedom Online Coalition, that's what they're called. It

00:13:58.180 sounds pretty great, doesn't it? I mean, can I join? I believe in online freedom,

00:14:03.540 the obvious and most important freedoms of which would be, you know, freedom of speech, freedom of

00:14:09.700 the press, freedom of expression, freedom of thought and belief. Those are all found in our

00:14:14.420 Canadian chart of rights in Section 2, by the way. It's called Fundamental Freedoms. In the U.S.,

00:14:18.820 they're covered by what they call the First Amendment. So I'm pretty pumped up about Freedom Online

00:14:24.580 Coalition. But let me quote from Orwell's 1984. This is from the book.

00:14:28.980 The ministry of peace concerns itself with war. The ministry of truth with lies. The ministry of love

00:14:37.940 with torture. And the ministry of plenty with starvation. These contradictions are not accidental,

00:14:44.580 nor do they result from ordinary hypocrisy. They are deliberate exercises in double-think, double-think.

00:14:51.140 That's an important psychological term that Orwell invented to hold two mutually irreconcilable

00:14:56.420 ideas at the same time. So Trudeau is in blackface, but he calls you racist. That's double-think. 0.88

00:15:04.260 Trudeau sexually assaulted Rose Knight in Creston, BC, but he calls you a misogynist. That's double-think. 0.83

00:15:10.580 Chrystia Freeland's own grandfather was a Nazi propagandist, and she helped cover that up for him,

00:15:18.020 but she'll call truckers Nazis. That's double-think. You get it? And so it is with the Freedom Online

00:15:24.340 Coalition. That's what they have called their censorship committee. So let me read a bit from

00:15:32.580 their announcement. As 2022 chair of the Freedom Online Coalition, Canada leads a coalition of 34

00:15:38.820 governments united by our belief that the same human rights people enjoy offline must be protected

00:15:45.060 online. All right, well, that sounds pretty good so far. That's all those freedoms I mentioned a moment ago,

00:15:50.340 right? But that only lasts for one sentence. Here's the second sentence.

00:15:58.020 The unprovoked and unjustifiable attack by the Russian Federation against the territorial integrity,

00:16:03.460 sovereignty, and independence of the democratic state of Ukraine was preceded by a steady outpouring

00:16:08.660 of fabricated claims and unfounded allegations online by the Russian Federation. We have since witnessed

00:16:15.300 a continued onslaught of disinformation orchestrated by the Russian Federation.

00:16:21.700 Okay, it's war. Both sides engaged in propaganda. I don't know if you heard about the story of Snake

00:16:27.700 Island, where a brave group of Ukrainian soldiers held out against all odds against a Russian military ship,

00:16:35.140 and they died. Their last words being, F you. Did you see that story of heroism? Or maybe you saw this.

00:16:41.540 Here's a tweet from a U.S. congressman about the ghost of Kyiv, the Ukrainian fighter pilot who was

00:16:47.940 shooting down so many Russian planes. They have a picture of him. Samuel is his name. Or maybe you

00:16:53.220 heard that the Russians actually had the temerity to attack a Holocaust memorial at Babi Yar in Ukraine.

00:16:59.780 Did you hear about that? All of those were fake stories. Did you know that? That Snake Island story?

00:17:07.380 It happened, except for the soldiers actually surrendered. So they're alive. They're not dead.

00:17:12.660 That ghost of Ukraine, Samuel, that's a comedian from Rhode Island named Samuel Hyde.

00:17:20.660 It's not real. And here's an Israeli reporter standing in front of the Holocaust memorial at Babi Yar,

00:17:26.260 which is obviously undamaged. Like I say, propaganda everywhere. And your job as a grown-up is to try to

00:17:33.700 sort through it. I have not been convinced by the Russian propaganda that they're right.

00:17:39.380 It has not made me support their war. The Ukrainian propaganda has actually made me 0.72

00:17:44.180 more cautious about repeating what they say because I don't want to republish things that are revealed

00:17:49.540 to be fakes. I don't want to talk about Snake Island if it turns out to be a fake story.

00:17:55.380 I don't think either side's propaganda has changed my mind. It's only made me slower to jump to conclusions,

00:18:00.980 which frankly is probably a good idea in this era of Twitter. I don't know if we have to

00:18:05.860 immediately come to a conclusion about things. I think that if Canada were at war, a real war

00:18:13.540 for our survival, I would permit myself to be more jingoistic. The last war Canada was involved with,

00:18:20.580 I don't know if you remember this, under Stephen Harper actually, was toppling Libya's 1.00

00:18:25.300 Moammar Gaddafi. And I'm not particularly proud of Canada for doing that. I think it was a disaster.

00:18:31.860 I have no idea what our national interest supposedly was. We did also have a grand total of six CF-18

00:18:38.020 fighter jets in the war against ISIS terrorists, but Trudeau almost immediately called them home

00:18:42.260 after becoming prime minister. Those aren't even really wars though, are they?

00:18:45.700 I don't know. I don't feel compelled by patriotism to support obvious PR projects like when Trudeau sent

00:18:58.180 our troops to Mali. Can you find Mali, M-A-L-I? Can you find it on a map? Don't fib. 1.00

00:19:04.660 I'll admit I cannot find Mali on a map. Why did we send troops there? Oh, probably because Trudeau's

00:19:12.260 mother, Margaret Trudeau, went on a vacation there and really fell in love with the place.

00:19:15.860 So why not use Canadian soldiers to make Trudeau's mom feel good? Yeah, no. I guess what I'm saying is

00:19:21.540 I support our troops and I support peace. And I would support a patriotic war in our national

00:19:26.980 interest, God forbid, if Canada were ever thrust into one. But that doesn't mean I clap along as our

00:19:32.460 soldiers are used for virtue signaling or some pawns on a chessboard. Don't think for a second that every

00:19:39.060 one of those military deployments that I've just listed hasn't been wrung out for propaganda purposes

00:19:44.500 of Trudeau or Harper, if not by our government. I mean, Trudeau himself, that strange Mali decision, 0.92

00:19:50.900 maybe it was for his mom. Which brings me back to propaganda and the announcement last night by

00:19:57.060 Trudeau and his censorship squad. So they've got this freedom online coalition and they're really mad

00:20:02.900 of Vladimir Putin. Okay, got it. Me too. And then they say this, I quote,

00:20:08.740 state-sponsored disinformation campaigns undermine peace, prosperity, and individual freedoms

00:20:14.600 threatening to destabilize the fabric of our rules-based international system.

00:20:20.620 Now, I'm not sure how propaganda undermines my freedom. Propaganda, it's ideas, good ideas or bad

00:20:26.740 ideas, depending on whose side you're on. How does what Russia today or the Ukrainian state broadcaster,

00:20:32.560 which, by the way, is accredited at Canada's parliament, how do they erode my freedom or my

00:20:40.280 prosperity for that matter? And even the claim that they undermine peace. I mean, propaganda

00:20:44.640 doesn't declare war. Propaganda doesn't blow up buildings. People do. Soldiers do. Russia has 0.77

00:20:50.660 engaged in propaganda for years. I don't think it's a coincidence that they only acted in the face of

00:20:56.180 Joe Biden's weakness. Propaganda didn't do that. Putin looked at Biden, looked at the West and made a

00:21:01.960 decision. Propaganda is how he excuses the thing, but it's not the thing itself. The war is the thing

00:21:08.340 itself. The army is the thing itself. Here's the very next line in this press release. A strong democracy

00:21:14.080 relies on access to diverse and reliable sources of news and information so that members of society

00:21:20.160 can form opinions, hold governments and individuals to account, and participate in public debate.

00:21:25.000 Well, hang on. I thought they just said that some divergent opinions were dangerous.

00:21:33.340 Which is it? Is the diversity of opinion good or bad? Or just the ones that Trudeau says are

00:21:39.680 reliable? What exactly does this reliable mean? For example, is Trudeau reliable? No, I don't think so,

00:21:46.360 but he thinks so. How about we each decide for ourselves? But look at this wording pretzel. This is

00:21:52.440 from the announcement. We stand with the people of Ukraine, reaffirming that they should be able to

00:21:58.320 participate meaningfully in society online and offline, free from oppressive practices such as

00:22:05.020 state-sponsored disinformation. Hang on, hang on. But being free from words you don't like, that's a

00:22:11.840 counterfeit freedom. You're twisting the word freedom. You have no human right not to be offended.

00:22:18.980 You have no right to have other points of view silenced. That's not a human right at all,

00:22:24.360 actually. That's not a shield to protect you. That's a sword to silence your opponents. That's

00:22:30.600 the power to censor. They have announced a new censorship plan, and they've called it freedom.

00:22:37.200 They've simply come up with a trick to label anything they don't like as disinformation and

00:22:42.640 call it oppressive. They say you have a human right to be free from it, and they're going to start

00:22:48.860 censoring media they don't like. And what's so crazy is that Canada isn't even in this war. Ukraine is,

00:22:55.460 Russia is, but Canada is not. NATO is not. But Canada is using the excuse of someone else's war

00:23:02.320 as a pretext to ban things on the internet in Canada. Canadians' right to choose, our right to

00:23:08.820 hear are the points of view. Those Canadian rights by Canadian citizens, including you,

00:23:14.120 are being destroyed by claiming that someone in Ukraine is being oppressed by propaganda?

00:23:21.080 I think it's actually the armies and the war that are oppressing them. But even if it were the

00:23:26.840 propaganda, it's not what I'm reading or watching on my computer here in Toronto that's the problem.

00:23:32.480 It's something over there. This is a trick. This is a pretext. This is continuing with their censorship

00:23:38.800 agenda. This is them continuing with the Emergencies Act style power to act like authoritarian bullies.

00:23:45.680 They never actually stopped, did they? They just switched their emergency. They switched their

00:23:50.880 excuse from a peaceful truckers' rebellion to a war 8,000 kilometers away between two countries

00:23:56.980 that aren't us. That's why they have to censor you in Canada, you see. Sorry, but we have to

00:24:05.420 in order to save freedom online. You've just got to see this language. Look at this. This is real

00:24:12.740 Ministry of Truth stuff. First they say, we call for the cessation of the conducting and sponsoring of

00:24:19.480 disinformation campaigns and urge all stakeholders to take active steps to address the issue in a

00:24:25.180 manner that respects human rights, democracy, and the rule of law. So take active steps to censor the

00:24:30.600 internet, just like they took active steps with the cable companies in Canada. But Russia had better

00:24:38.440 stop censoring the internet. Quote, we call for the end of internet shutdowns and the blocking or

00:24:43.900 filtering of services. We also call for the Russian Federation to refrain from content restrictions on

00:24:49.720 the internet that violate international human rights laws. States must not unduly restrict, moderate,

00:24:55.480 or manipulate online content or disrupt networks to deny users access to information contrary to their

00:25:02.440 international obligations. In order to stop Russia from censoring the internet, they are going to

00:25:11.000 censor the internet. That's what they mean. They're tricksters with their wording, but it's what they

00:25:16.680 say if you read it just slowly and carefully. I mean, we just quote a little bit more.

00:25:20.200 Social media platforms play an important role in the fight against disinformation. In the last few

00:25:27.000 days, we have seen them make unprecedented and powerful decisions to restrain the Russian Federation's

00:25:32.200 attempt to misinform national and international audiences. Talk about propaganda. This is propaganda.

00:25:39.080 They literally name the websites they want smashed, but they immediately say how much they care about

00:25:46.680 freedom while they smash it. Let me quote. While respecting freedom of expression, Canada calls on

00:25:53.800 platforms to work with the Freedom Online Coalition and to keep taking every step possible to counter

00:26:00.920 state-sponsored disinformation, including that propaganded by Russia Today and Sputnik channels online.

00:26:07.720 We offer our continued collaboration to get this done in a manner guided by respect for human rights

00:26:14.200 and the UN guiding principles on business and human rights. Right, right, right, got it. The closing

00:26:21.000 couplet here, because it's like a poem, is just incredible. Canadians cannot have freedom of the 0.98

00:26:29.640 internet, but Ukrainians must. Let me read this gorgeous ending. Disinformation cannot be enabled, 1.00

00:26:38.600 whether through state media, private media, or social media platforms. We support Ukrainians'

00:26:44.920 human rights and internet freedoms, and we'll work together to counter state-sponsored disinformation,

00:26:51.240 which puts democracies and lives at risk. I think Ukrainians should have internet freedoms,

00:26:57.480 including to listen to propaganda from anyone they choose, whether it's from the Canadian government,

00:27:09.400 the Canadian state broadcaster, or any foreign version of it. My friends, they are using a war on the other

00:27:16.680 side of the world as an excuse to censor you. They're not going to stop till they do it. Stay with us for more.

00:27:26.520 Well, as you may know, we had boots on the ground in downtown Ottawa for nearly a month. We,

00:27:45.000 in fact, embedded our reporter with the trucker convoy a week before it even got to Ottawa and

00:27:51.240 covering the trucker convoy, I think, was the highlight of the last year for us. It was such a

00:27:57.000 condensed and concentrated political moment that has yielded so many results. I put it to you that

00:28:02.680 the truckers did more to change the debate in Canada and to get more freedom-oriented results

00:28:09.800 than any other actor in the past two years. And you always hear me say it, more than the courts,

00:28:16.600 more than the opposition, more than the media, more than academia. The truckers did an organic,

00:28:22.600 authentic grassroots movement. It was amazing. And it was really our time to shine as Rebel News.

00:28:28.360 We at one time had people in nine different cities covering different emanations of the truckers. In

00:28:34.040 fact, as far away as Canberra, Australia, our chief Australian correspondent was there. And I felt that

00:28:40.920 there were a clash of narratives. Rebel News was on one side with a handful of other independents,

00:28:46.520 against the media party. As you know, that's a phrase I use loosely for the political media

00:28:52.600 industrial complex quite often, journalists with legacy media. But I have to say, other than my dear

00:28:59.320 friends at Rebel News, the most effective journalist in Ottawa covering the convoy was not a Rebel. I mean, 0.87

00:29:08.680 I think Rebel did wonderfully. I would say we did a great job. But there was an outstanding journalist

00:29:15.320 journalist who I think really made her mark. And she reported, she's a freelance columnist.

00:29:22.680 She writes for the National Post. She writes for an impressive list, a roster of other media,

00:29:28.920 including the Wall Street Journal, where she was in just today. Her name is Rupa Subramanya.

00:29:35.960 And I am delighted to talk to her today via Skype from Ottawa. Rupa, what a pleasure to meet you. I've

00:29:43.160 become a super fan, even though we've never had a chance to talk before. I follow you so closely on

00:29:48.040 Twitter. I want to congratulate you for your journalism. I love what our rebels are doing,

00:29:52.600 and I think they're first rate. But to have you writing in the National Post and in the Wall Street

00:29:58.920 Journal, you were bringing a different point of view to people who otherwise might not have heard it.

00:30:04.280 Thanks, Ezra. It's great to be here. And it's great to finally meet you. And I also want to

00:30:11.800 give a shout out to your team for covering the protests. I know they were there to the very end

00:30:16.760 and right on the front lines. And there was a lot of live streaming from there. So I really appreciate

00:30:24.440 that coverage as well. So yeah, so Ezra, I am an outsider in journalism, really. I'm a trained economist.

00:30:34.280 My specialties are economics, and my expertise is economics and IR, and not necessarily the kind

00:30:42.520 of stuff that I worked on recently. Maybe that's what gave me this perspective, the outsider's

00:30:48.120 perspective on what was happening here. And what happened here is, before the convoy even showed up

00:30:55.400 in Ottawa, there was already a received narrative in place, and that narrative was pushed forward by a

00:31:02.760 handful of journalists and amplified by their echo chamber, that the protesters, the truckers, 0.93

00:31:10.520 were a bunch of white supremacists, anti-vaxxers, racists, bigots, here to overthrow the government. 0.90

00:31:19.480 And just pretty much anything bad you could say about them was said at that time. 0.96

00:31:26.040 Now, to be fair, there were elements attached to the convoy, and they didn't do any favors.

00:31:34.120 They didn't do themselves any favors that they were part of the convoy.

00:31:38.680 I feel like the convoy should have been very aggressive right from the get-go in just saying

00:31:44.520 that these guys have nothing to do with that. I know that they did that several times during the

00:31:51.080 course of the protest, but I do feel that that should have been dealt with right from the get-go.

00:31:55.960 But having said that, I went as a resident of the city where I live, not as a journalist, not as a

00:32:04.520 writer, but just as someone who wanted to see what was happening. I live right in the market,

00:32:10.920 so I have a bird's-eye view of what is happening. And so I went there keeping an open mind of,

00:32:19.640 you know, I was aware of this received narrative. I'd read all of that stuff, and I wanted to just

00:32:24.280 check it out for myself and see what was happening. And I discovered that my first impressions were,

00:32:30.760 well, I mean, this feels a lot like Canada Day. It felt like a winter carnival. There was so much,

00:32:38.200 you know, just so much joy and happiness. And, you know, you saw the maple leaf everywhere. You saw

00:32:44.440 people laughing. There were kids. There was lots of music. And you were there, so you experienced

00:32:50.840 some of this as well. And, you know, that was striking. And, you know, as I made my way

00:32:58.840 through the crowds and I spent pretty much all day there, I was struck by, you know,

00:33:05.640 it wasn't just a whole bunch of white people. There were, I saw black Canadians. I saw sea Canadians.

00:33:11.800 I saw Asians. I saw pretty much everyone. And everything was peaceful. There was nothing,

00:33:18.200 you know, as a person of color, you know, and as a woman, I walked through this protest,

00:33:25.480 you know, and felt completely safe, felt really, you know, just, I didn't feel anything

00:33:35.000 bad at all during the protests. And when I came home, you know, I came home and I told my partner,

00:33:42.600 you know, the political class in this country has completely underestimated what's going on here.

00:33:48.120 They're completely out of touch. They're detached. And I even tweeted this and I felt I got a lot of

00:33:55.240 pushback, especially from some very well-known journalists. And they mocked me and they said,

00:34:02.040 this is just a fringe group of people. It won't last for a couple of days.

00:34:08.040 It's like, you know, the annual get-together of the PPP,

00:34:16.120 sorry, the People's Party of Canada, the PPC. And nothing, and there's going to be no political

00:34:23.320 repercussions, no political consequences at all coming out of this. And then what happened was,

00:34:31.480 a few days later, the leader of the Conservative Party was fired by his own caucus.

00:34:36.040 The protests continued on for three weeks. Trudeau had to declare an emergency. There was even dissent

00:34:42.840 within his own party. So, yeah, so that's what ended up happening.

00:34:48.360 Well, it was incredible. And you really walked around. Like, I was there for a few days. It was

00:34:53.480 so very cold. I have to say, it was actually physically a challenge to cover this story. I'm

00:34:59.560 not complaining. I'm just saying, I saw you out there every day, all day. I saw you on your Twitter

00:35:05.720 feed, I mean, and the stories you wrote. And so that's the kind of shoe leather journalism that I

00:35:12.440 think really works for events like this. I think a lot of the critics in what I call the media party

00:35:18.360 never even went down there. Like my old friend, Andrew Coyne, I'm certain he didn't physically

00:35:24.440 go there. He was writing from his apartment somewhere and in Toronto. So I think that you

00:35:31.480 saw things with your own eyes. You saw people of every background. You mentioned race, but there's

00:35:37.400 also a class element to working class people and they look different. They're not as fancy. They don't 1.00

00:35:44.360 have the exact perfect words that the silver tongue devils who work in Parliament Hill do.

00:35:50.200 And I, so there was, there were some people a little rough around the edges. And I think that

00:35:54.520 brought out a kind of snobbery and condescension. You know, there's a great lawyer in Toronto named

00:36:00.040 Ryan O'Connor. He calls it the Peloton class. People who, they loved the lockdowns because they got

00:36:07.320 themselves that expensive Peloton workout machine and maybe they had a country cottage. So the fancy

00:36:13.160 people sort of said, yuck, I don't like truckers. I only like it when they drop off an Amazon package

00:36:19.080 and I don't even have to see them. They leave it at the door. I don't actually want to meet a trucker.

00:36:23.800 And I felt there was a, there was a classism and I'm not a Marxist, but I just, it's hard not to

00:36:29.800 notice some of the sneering. That same Andrew Coyne was calling them yobs. That's a, that's a British 1.00

00:36:35.920 term for sort of lower class football hooligans. I don't know. I think you really nailed it

00:36:42.360 because you were doing that shoe leather journalism. You were there looking people in the

00:36:48.120 eye, seeing what it was really like instead of just reading some pre-approved talking points.

00:36:53.320 So you have the digital economy and I, I, and that's all of us were part of the digital economy.

00:36:59.320 We've managed to get through the last two years navigating the pandemic through zoom and Peloton and

00:37:07.000 whatnot. Right. But then you have the working class, um, the, the, you know, they're, they, 1.00

00:37:14.200 they lay the brick and mortar of the economy. They're part of the brick and mortar of the economy.

00:37:18.760 And, uh, they, um, they've been completely, you know, speaking to them, you, you, you,

00:37:25.160 you get the sense that they've been completely left out. Uh, they've been affected by the lockdowns.

00:37:29.960 They've been affected by the restrictions. Uh, and then you had the mandates that kicked in. And then,

00:37:35.240 you know, I think that was the final straw for many of these folks. And, uh, what is,

00:37:41.080 what was unfortunate about all of this is that, uh, the, you know, that, that there was no real

00:37:46.680 attempt, uh, to really even try to understand where they were coming from. Um, you know, they,

00:37:52.840 it was easier to denigrate and mock them and, uh, call them names. Uh, and then when you were tired of

00:38:00.200 that, you went, went back to, uh, calling them racists and white supremacists. Um, there was no

00:38:06.360 real attempt to actually, um, to actually find out, you know, what, why are they upset? Why are

00:38:12.440 they angry? What, what's the source of their frustration? Um, and that is what I tried to do.

00:38:19.000 I mean, all I did was talk to people. I just got out of my apartment. It was cold. Um, you know,

00:38:24.840 and, uh, uh, you know, I'm not, you know, I was dressed warmly, but you know, you're there for 10,

00:38:30.200 12 hours every day. That's pretty, that's, that's, that's, uh, that's quite, um, you know,

00:38:36.040 that's, that's not good for you, but, you know, I, I went there and I, and I spoke to people and I,

00:38:41.960 and there were, you know, these people with some real heart, you know, some very, some heartbreaking

00:38:47.320 stories, you know, these are real people, uh, who've suffered during the pandemic and nobody really

00:38:53.160 wants to even engage with them. Uh, they're not all anti-vaxxers. Sure. There are some who are

00:38:58.280 anti-vaxxers. They will not take a vaccine, any vaccine of any kind, but there's, there was,

00:39:03.320 there was also a lot of, you know, there were people who had recovered from COVID. Now we know

00:39:07.000 the research on people who've recovered from COVID. They actually have very high antibodies.

00:39:12.040 So why are we forcing them to take the vaccine? Um, and, and so there were a lot of people like that.

00:39:18.440 There were people who have a history of heart condition and their families and

00:39:22.120 are not able to get a medical exemption from the vaccine. Now, this is something I didn't know

00:39:26.760 about. So there was a lot of stuff that I learned for the first time, Ezra, and this was an eye-opening

00:39:31.640 experience for me. Um, I thought getting a medical exemption, uh, wouldn't be a big deal or even a

00:39:38.280 religious exemption. In fact, when those things were announced, I thought, ah, you know, the, the,

00:39:43.240 these are potential loopholes, uh, if you want, um, you know, in the, in the vaccine, uh, man,

00:39:49.320 uh, with, with vaccination that people who don't want to get vaccinated will cite,

00:39:54.040 you know, medical reasons and, uh, religious reasons, but these are actually very hard to get.

00:39:59.960 Uh, so these two siblings I met, they didn't, they were not diagnosed with myocarditis,

00:40:07.400 but they have a heart disease. They themselves have some, some, some, some kind of a heart condition,

00:40:12.440 which is not myocarditis. You can only get this exemption for myocarditis, but think about the fact

00:40:18.200 that you have, you're really worried about this. Uh, it's not myocarditis that you have, you, but

00:40:25.400 you're worried about it. You don't want to take the vaccine. We need to understand that fear instead

00:40:30.120 of mocking them, right? Uh, what we've done is we've mocked and denigrated these individuals.

00:40:35.080 Young people's lives have changed, um, considerably. So people who used to love travel, 1.00

00:40:41.240 used to love to travel can no longer do that because they're prisoners in their own country.

00:40:45.800 They can't get on a plane, um, and, and, you know, and backpack across the world if they wanted to,

00:40:51.560 they can't go for a hockey game. So it's, it's, they can't go on a date, you know? Uh, and it's, it's

00:40:57.720 been, uh, it's been quite, uh, you know, for me, it was an eyeopening experience because I'll be very

00:41:03.560 honest with you. I'm, you know, I'm triple vaccinated and, you know, I kind of, um, initially, I thought the

00:41:10.120 mandates would be a way of getting more people vaccinated, but I hadn't quite realized how,

00:41:15.880 just how deeply unjust and discriminatory this whole thing has been. And, uh, so it really did open my

00:41:24.760 eyes and that only happened because I spoke to people and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I,

00:41:30.040 I try to understand where they were coming from. Well, that's real journalism, isn't it? I got one last

00:41:35.000 question for you. You mentioned, uh, a few moments ago that Aaron O'Toole, uh, was perhaps the first

00:41:40.480 political casualty of the truckers because his conservative MPs didn't feel like he was being

00:41:45.080 open-minded enough. He was being really shy. It was like he was afraid of the CBC being mean to him.

00:41:50.880 If he talked to a trucker, uh, there's been a lot of other things that these truckers, I think a lot

00:41:55.320 of other dominoes that have fallen. Um, I really, I mean, I said it before, I think they made a big

00:42:00.120 difference, but one institution that I think is in absolute denial and they have had no reckoning

00:42:08.080 for their role, not just in the last month, but the last two years, I think it's the media. And I

00:42:13.320 think that in politics, there are consequences for getting it wrong. You can be thrown out like

00:42:18.740 Aaron O'Toole was, or you can admit you're wrong and make changes. Like frankly, most provincial

00:42:25.600 governments are doing very quickly, but I don't think there's been a reckoning in most of the

00:42:31.180 media. In fact, I see that the new narrative from the media class is we were victimized.

00:42:38.780 We were threatened. So some of the journalists who went down there said I was heckled. Now I

00:42:43.940 grant you some people had some swears sworn at them. And I think in one case there was someone

00:42:49.680 who spat and I don't like that. That's actually assault. And someone said someone threw something

00:42:54.860 and I don't agree with that. But the whole media class is saying we're the true victims

00:43:02.420 here. We need armed guards on Parliament Hill. There's something terrible among, I mean, there's

00:43:08.540 no self-reflection. There's no introspection. There's no acknowledgement that maybe they got

00:43:16.420 something wrong over the last two years. Maybe they were cheerleaders for the lockdown. Maybe

00:43:20.860 they defamed the truckers. I've never seen a group so oblivious to what they're like. Every

00:43:27.080 other group in society has had a reckoning. I'm even starting to see it in the courts, but

00:43:31.500 not the media class. They're having panel discussions about how hard done by they are. What do you think

00:43:36.760 of all that? It's really bizarre, Ezra. And, you know, I just really have no words. The fact of the

00:43:47.420 matter is that journalists are not supposed to be there to be liked, right? They're supposed to be

00:43:52.100 there to report on the story as objectively and as fairly as they possibly can. There's no question

00:43:59.680 that there was a real disdain for the mainstream media among the protesters. I did see a few people,

00:44:07.680 few mainstream media journalists trying to engage with the protesters, maybe try to speak to the

00:44:12.160 truckers and, you know, and to some of the protesters. And they were met with a lot of

00:44:17.920 hostility. I didn't see any violent behavior, but I did see a lot of, you know, just, you know,

00:44:24.580 we don't trust the mainstream media, or if you want to talk to us, we're going to record it so that you

00:44:29.440 don't go and, you know, and, you know, and try to defame us or anything like that on the

00:44:37.040 media, for sure. But the media still has to work hard to gain people's trust, I think. It cannot

00:44:48.400 just be handed to you on a silver platter. And you have to earn their trust. I, as an independent

00:44:55.740 person, was also met with a lot of, you know, people didn't really want to speak to me.

00:45:01.420 And, but, you know, I had to really work hard at gaining people's trust. And, you know, and that

00:45:07.560 was not easy. So, so, you know, it's never, it's never good when the media becomes the story,

00:45:15.200 right? Journalists should never become the story, be the story. And that's unfortunately what ended

00:45:20.120 up happening here. I'm just not sure, you know, and they're never held accountable for anything,

00:45:26.260 really, at least for the three weeks that the protests happened. In fact, I was held more to

00:45:33.840 account than anybody else. You know, my tweets were fisked. My pieces were fact-checked, everything,

00:45:43.680 you name it, I was held more to account than Justin Trudeau or any of the talking heads on TV.

00:45:50.820 And I, as a freelancer and outsider in journalism. So that was quite ironic. You know, I just, I just

00:45:59.500 hope, because see, I've seen this movie play out before where, you know, a deep distrust of the media

00:46:04.100 then descends into things that are not good. You know, you, you do, journalists play a vital role,

00:46:10.580 you know, and I think, I think, you know, and that's very important. And, and, and they,

00:46:15.980 there needs to be a real introspection here of what they did wrong, what, what, what, what needs to be

00:46:23.820 done to improve reporting. You know, I feel like they've just, many of them have just moved on. You

00:46:31.040 know, the people who had this singular narrative of the protesters have now moved on to reporting on

00:46:38.560 the Ukraine-Russia conflict. And, you know, there's just no accountability anywhere.

00:46:45.720 Yeah, I think you're right. And, and I actually, the distrust that I myself have learned in the last

00:46:52.620 two years from watching the media cover COVID has stayed with me. And I'm extra skeptical of the

00:46:59.340 coverage of Ukraine. And I, and I'm sort of sad about that, that I've been turned so skeptical,

00:47:04.080 and that my, what little trust I had has been, you know, steamed off by what we've seen over the

00:47:11.520 last little while. Well, I got to tell you, Rupa, it's a pleasure to finally meet you and to talk with

00:47:16.100 you at length. Thank you very much for coming on the show today. And thank you for the journalism you

00:47:21.200 did. And, and I'm very critical of most journalists, but I, I have to say, I, every day I look forward to

00:47:27.620 seeing your side of the story because you told it like you saw it. You challenged the myths on the

00:47:34.480 other side and you proved it with photos and video clips and stories. I really benefited a lot

00:47:42.000 from you. And I recommend everyone follow you on Twitter as I do. And we'll have your Twitter

00:47:45.900 handle underneath. Great to meet you. I hope to talk to you again. And you are, you along with Rex

00:47:53.000 Murphy and Conrad Black are my reason for reading the National Post. So keep it up. I think you're

00:47:57.880 doing great. Thanks, Ezra. It was a real pleasure to be here to finally meet you. Well, you're very

00:48:03.000 nice to say that. There you have it. Rupert Subramanian, a freelance columnist at the National

00:48:07.320 Post in today's Wall Street Journal and other places. Stay with us. More ahead.

00:48:23.000 Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me, Sharon Kerr says, send a Chrystia Freeland over there. She can 0.98

00:48:28.760 visit some relatives and it will cost a lot less. She can also coerce them to join the World Economic

00:48:34.860 Forum that she sits on the board of trustees. One world government ruled by the elites and everyone 0.97

00:48:40.500 else will have nothing. Her plutocrat's dream come true. There's a lot in there. I got to tell you

00:48:45.780 that Vladimir Zelensky, the president of Russia, is a World Economic Forum graduate. And I saw a

00:48:53.280 picture on Twitter today of him saying that he really looks up to Trudeau and Trudeau's his role

00:48:56.800 model. I find that depressing. Stephanie says, we are all Canadians. It is completely unacceptable to

00:49:04.760 discriminate in any way. Why would we punish Russians for a war that was forced upon them

00:49:09.020 by a corrupt leader? Oh, I've seen just the craziest. I've seen colleges saying we're going to stop 0.99

00:49:15.700 teaching Russian literature hundreds of years ago. I mean, I never was much into Russian literature

00:49:23.800 myself, but for example, Solzhenitsyn. Have you heard that name, Alexander Solzhenitsyn? He was a

00:49:30.300 real dissident. He wrote about totalitarianism, including censorship. Should he be banned because

00:49:40.000 he's Russian? He was warning against authoritarianism. Should he be banned because he's Russian? 0.98

00:49:45.700 Makes no sense. My friends, we got one more day this week. Who knows how crazy it's going to be.

00:49:51.700 We'll see you tomorrow. Until then, on behalf of all of us from here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:49:56.480 to you at home, good night. Keep fighting for freedom. And I'm going to leave you with this

00:50:00.020 video from Tamera Ugolini, a German health insurance company that's sounding the alarm on

00:50:06.040 vaccine injuries. I promise you, this is news you won't see on the CBC State Broadcaster.

00:50:11.560 All right, see you tomorrow.

00:50:12.560 Tamera Ugolini here with Rebel News, and we are now slowly getting 2021 data showing just how

00:50:18.380 devastating the novel mRNA COVID injectables have been on the general public. Now it's showing up

00:50:25.020 under the bottom line of health insurance companies. This particular story comes out of

00:50:30.440 Germany, where I just so happen to have some family members and how it's making me very much regret

00:50:36.340 not learning the mother tongue from my oma and omi. Yes, I am German and Italian. Makes for a very

00:50:42.660 feisty combo, you can ask my husband. Regardless, I have connected with those family members. Hi,

00:50:49.080 Tante. To seek some clarification and make sure that my translations are in fact correct.

00:50:55.720 I would welcome you and as always to fact check what I'm about to say using Google Translate,

00:51:03.020 or maybe you can reference your own friends and family in Germany. This story has been picked up

00:51:09.660 by various English and Canadian media outlets making its way on Twitter. But I wanted to source the raw

00:51:17.900 data for myself and find out exactly what was being said by this particular company. As always,

00:51:24.240 I will link all of my sources in the written component of this report. Okay, so let's dig in.

00:51:30.220 So a large German health insurer called BKK Provita, that's one of Germany's oldest health

00:51:34.800 insurance, filed this press release titled Strong Warning Signal for Coded Vaccination Side Effects

00:51:39.920 After Corona Vaccination on February 21st, 2022. It was directed to Professor Dr. Sitchutec at the

00:51:47.500 Paul Ehrlich Institute, also referred to as PEI, which is the German Federal Ministry of Health.

00:51:53.560 The letter starts off by saying that the Paul Ehrlich Institute announced in a press release

00:51:58.400 that for the calendar year of 2021, only 244,576 suspected cases of vaccination side effects

00:52:08.640 occurred after Corona vaccination and were reported. The second paragraph basically states that using

00:52:15.640 their own data, BKK Provita has reason to believe that this signals significant underreporting and

00:52:21.880 that they are enclosing an evaluation of their own data. The third paragraph, they lay it all out.

00:52:27.260 They used the billing data of doctors filing health insurance claims. Using anonymous sample databases

00:52:32.940 from the health insurance companies, they included just over 10.9 million policyholders and used the

00:52:40.060 doctor's billing data for the first half of 2021. Using the valid ICD codes for vaccine side effects,

00:52:49.400 those codes stand for International Classification of Disease, ICD, that is a globally standardized code

00:52:57.460 by the World Health Organization, the WHO. You can search the various codes and their meanings out

00:53:02.580 for yourself, but I will outline them later. Okay, so going back to this third paragraph,

00:53:08.240 BKK saw that already there had been 2,116,695 cases of vaccination side effects treated as per their own

00:53:20.320 data. They go on to extrapolate this figure to include the entire year of 2021 and apply it to

00:53:26.580 the total German population and claim that there are probably two and a half to three million people

00:53:32.120 in Germany seeking medical care due to vaccine side effects. They note that this is a significant

00:53:38.540 alarm signal. The fourth paragraph, they reinforce that this means approximately four to five percent

00:53:44.360 of vaccinated people were under medical treatment because of side effects to vaccination.

00:53:50.540 In the fifth paragraph, they speculate that the cause of underreporting could be

00:53:54.360 that there is no monetary incentive for physicians to report to the Paul Ehrlich Institute.

00:54:00.220 They note that doctors claim it takes about half an hour to file a report and with three million

00:54:04.900 suspected cases of side effects, that would take one and a half million hours of work to complete,

00:54:10.960 which would be the equivalent to the annual work performance of 1,000 doctors. That's staggering.

00:54:18.200 The last two sentences note that they also sent the letter to the National Association of

00:54:23.160 Statutory Health Insurance Funds to request that they also analyze their data appropriately and

00:54:28.900 since danger to people's lives cannot be ruled out, they ask for PEI's feedback by February 22nd,

00:54:34.580 2022 at 6 p.m. It looks like they didn't receive a response from PEI directly, but a German doctors

00:54:42.020 association called Verkalbund responded with this press release dated February 24th, 2022,

00:54:48.520 and it's been picked up and shared widely by German mainstream media. The press release is authored by

00:54:54.940 Dr. Dirk Heinrich, the federal chairman of Verkalbund. He refers to BKK Provita's claim as

00:55:01.440 embarrassing ignorance or insidious attempt to deceive and calls their conclusion complete nonsense.

00:55:08.100 The basis of the letter is that the findings by BKK are meaningless because the codes do not

00:55:12.800 differentiate between mild or severe side effects. He then attacks the company for his advertising of

00:55:18.600 homeopathy and osteopathy in some sort of strange smear attempt, to which BKK responded on in a press release

00:55:26.200 on February 25th, 2022, the very next day. They reiterate that the basis for the evaluation is the billing

00:55:32.620 data of the doctors themselves. They repeat everything from their initial letter to PEI and also include

00:55:38.440 some graphs. The graphs include data from 2019 through 2022. Graph number one shows patients with

00:55:46.760 the code T88.1. These are other complications following immunization that were not classified

00:55:53.640 elsewhere. Graph number two shows patients with the U12.9 code. That's a new code since 2021 filed under

00:56:01.980 special purposes and it's used to classify COVID-19 vaccines causing adverse effects in therapeutic use

00:56:08.160 with unspecified reaction. Graph number three shows the code U5.9.9, another unspecific reaction

00:56:15.740 caused by a vaccine or biological substance. And finally graph four shows the code T88.0, which is an

00:56:22.940 infection following vaccination, specifically sepsis. That's alarming. BKK again reiterates that they

00:56:29.820 viewed themselves as obligated to report this data to PEI as they are the supreme authority for vaccine

00:56:35.840 safety. And they reference page 39 of PEI's own safety report, which notes that this health

00:56:41.760 authority has undertaken a volunteer driven observational survey on the tolerability of the

00:56:48.400 COVID-19 vaccines over a 12 month period. They further note that they don't interpret the data. They just

00:56:54.260 want to connect it to the responsible authorities to provide possible safety signals as it's a significant

00:56:59.700 finding. The BKK executive board has agreed to do an in-depth discussion with the PEI for the coming

00:57:05.920 week. That's the first week of March. Again, they encourage all health insurance companies to follow

00:57:10.700 this lead and evaluate their own databases. BKK ProVita further distances itself from the dubious

00:57:16.920 statements made by Verkaubund in its press release on February 24th. And they claim that Dr. Dirk Heinrich did

00:57:24.220 not communicate with the board of directors at BKK, nor did he request insight into the data analysis,

00:57:31.400 noting that only serious and factual analysis can benefit vaccine safety and the health of the

00:57:35.980 insured. They reject controversial statements as an unsuitable means of dispute and further

00:57:42.040 reiterate that the Paul Ehrlich Institute is solely responsible for clarifying the safety of vaccines.

00:57:47.560 My family in Germany told me that a meeting was being facilitated between BKK ProVita and the

00:57:53.640 Elric Institute. Apparently, the CEO of BKK has since been terminated and the meeting went forward

00:58:00.340 without him. I will give an update when there is one, so please stay tuned as I follow the potential

00:58:07.280 unraveling of proper vaccine adverse effects documentation. I think it'll be a showdown between

00:58:14.800 the companies obviously profiteering from their sale versus the companies whose bottom lines are being

00:58:21.980 affected by the disastrous health outcomes. For Rebel News, I'm Tamara Ugolini.

Rebel News Podcast - March 04, 2022

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