00:14:12.440I remember more than 15 years ago when the Danish cartoons of Mohammed were published and caused riots around the world.
00:14:19.760I spoke to a very senior manager at Post Media.
00:14:23.080It was called something different back then.
00:14:24.560I said, why are you not publishing these cartoons?
00:14:28.100Why are you not standing in solidarity with the handful of us who did?
00:14:31.560I was at the Western Standard at the time.
00:14:33.080And this big boss, I won't name him, said, we have more than a dozen offices around the country.
00:14:39.940If we were to publish those cartoons, it would cost us, he gave me an estimate, hundreds of thousands of dollars in security for all their sites.
00:14:48.240It was simply fear, either fear of physical violence or fear of political hassle or legal hassle these days, or simply just fear of being called Islamophobic.
00:14:58.760Which brings us to the topic of this interview, something extremely newsworthy happened in the last few days, something that you would think every newspaper would cover from the CBC on down, or would you say the CBC on up?
00:15:11.900But in fact, it was only our friends at Juno News who were there and an outstanding young journalist named Melanie Bennett.0.97
00:15:17.160It was the meeting, a conference, in fact, of the Canadian Muslim Public Affairs Committee, a shocking event, several of whose speakers were turned away at the border because of their foul associations, their terrorist rhetoric.0.81
00:15:31.520Joining us now via Zoom to talk about what she saw is our friend, Melanie Bennett.
00:24:07.420Here, they're just saying it. It's the Jews. Or as it was said in German, Judenrein. One of Hitler's projects was to make Europe Judenrein, which means clean of Jews, Jew-free. They really are using the same language. And no one bats an eye.1.00
00:24:28.420No adults in the room. Nobody said anything. This was not a natural. Why should they respond? It was a question of, well, why would anyone respond? This is totally normal. There's nothing unusual going on in the room.
00:24:37.980That's just unbelievable. And they may achieve their goal, by the way, either through violence
00:24:47.100or through driving out the Jews from Toronto, from Canada. It's a fact that most of Arabia1.00
00:24:54.220is a Jew-free zone. There were Jews, even in Saudi Arabia, even in Afghanistan, in Egypt,1.00
00:25:01.560in Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, all of those places are Jew-free zones. So when they say that's their0.99
00:25:09.620goal, it's not just a look into their heart, it's a reflection of what they have done over the last
00:25:16.2001400 years in other places. There are also Christian-free zones. I mean, Constantinople0.91
00:25:22.480is now called Istanbul. There's not a lot of Christians anymore. Jew-free today, Christian-free
00:25:27.200tomorrow, I suppose. Let me ask you, was there any criticism of Christianity or was there any0.99
00:25:32.100antipathy towards Christianity that you saw over the course of the weekend? No, so I didn't see
00:25:36.720that. I did, however, it's funny you bring up the Middle East and being generally Jew-free and1.00
00:25:42.280generally Christian-free because one of the big lamentations throughout the several days was
00:25:45.660this idea of colonialism and how that's a terrible insult to the Islamic nation, the Ummah,
00:25:52.420just Islamic nations yeah they talk about you know their Umar they talk about how can they bring that0.97
00:25:59.700forward how can they impose that how can they bring basically Sharia into into Canada right0.94
00:26:04.400so there was a lot of talk about colonization and how terrible that was but no I and Islamophobia
00:26:10.880there's a lot of talk about Islamophobia but I didn't hear any see the thing is about these
00:26:15.560speakers is that the language that they're using is more carefully crafted. And I must say,
00:26:23.040they speak very much a social justice language of freedom, of justice, of equality, inclusion,
00:26:30.940and all these things, but they do it in service of the UMA, if you want to call it that, right?
00:26:37.920And so I learned that they very much speak the language of the left, but they don't share the
00:26:44.000same dictionary and so it's been very clear to me why the left likes these guys so much and so
00:26:49.120the speakers aren't necessarily out there saying things like Jew free in this conference this is
00:26:54.420why this came from young people they're not as careful with their language you know they haven't0.70
00:26:58.280been trained and so on so forth so you kind of have to read into what's being said I mean one
00:27:02.720of the clips that I posted on X I don't know maybe it's too long to play but a speaker who
00:27:08.220was banned from the country, who participated on Zoom, I believe his name was Khalid Hanafi,1.00
00:27:14.860or I think that was his name, he was talking about the fact that too many Muslims had a nation0.95
00:27:22.600consciousness, as in they cared too much about the nations that they lived in, and that they
00:27:27.200had to develop more of an Oma consciousness, or an Islamic nation consciousness, and so this is
00:27:32.460kind of what I mean, like it's more couched, but you have to sort of understand what they're saying,
00:27:36.940But what they're saying is reject the idea of Canada, reject the idea of Britain, reject the idea of Europe.
00:27:42.140Like, you know, forget these. You need to have an Ummah consciousness.0.71
00:27:45.800You would need to advance the Islamic nation, right?0.99
00:27:49.060That's what you have to prioritize above all else.
00:27:51.440So you have to understand what you're listening to when you hear these sessions.
00:27:55.760Here, let's play a clip of that that you posted on your Twitter account.
00:28:59.200I mean, subhanAllah, right before, in between these two sessions, I was checking in with some parents
00:29:04.540who are dealing with Islamophobia at their school in which their students are being targeted
00:29:09.600simply because they're Somali and simply because they're Muslim.
00:29:12.980So the secularization of our faith has allowed us to really think about religion just belonging in private spaces.
00:29:20.200Religion being confined to your own private life as opposed to the public.
00:29:24.160Something that's within your heart and not meant to be shared.0.91
00:29:26.920something that's within the masajids but not lived out practically in the society that you're part of0.93
00:29:31.380subhanallah but then at the same time it disconnects our understanding of how we understand our rights
00:29:36.600i mentioned earlier about how is allah that give you islam that gives you islam and at the same
00:29:42.820time brothers and sisters islam expects you to be an angel of change you know there's an interesting
00:29:49.340statistic that i've heard many times in the united kingdom that more british muslims went to the
00:29:55.300middle east to fight for isis which stands for the islamic state then join the british army0.72
00:30:01.060which is just astonishing and i think they're following this point about don't join your nation
00:30:05.780join the islamic nation the islamic state the umma is very interesting to me um you know you talked
00:30:12.100about how they're one thing actually before we move on to this topic another thing that you might
00:30:16.700your audience needs to be aware of is that one another band speaker who who was there on zoom
00:30:21.660after a question by the audience asking about how do we infiltrate the western wolves and he did say
00:30:27.820the western wolves um the part of the answer was listen let's not let's stop talking about
00:30:33.100integration i want to i want to stop talking about we we don't assimilate we don't integrate0.92
00:30:38.020we follow the law and that's it this is just a cudgel used to beat muslims with right so and
00:30:44.560then another speaker in the same session said he sort of disagreed he said well no we need to0.63
00:30:48.700integrate, but we must not assimilate. And so they're being very clear if you pay attention
00:30:53.980to what they're saying. And so we have to ask ourselves as Canadians, as Westerners,
00:30:59.480we have our own system of laws and culture and so on and so forth. And are we willing to defend
00:31:04.220that from people who want to use those systems to impose their own? Here, let's play a quick
00:31:08.960clip of that. So I would like to address some questions because I actually think they cover,
00:31:14.640subhanAllah, like broadly, what all of the speakers have spoken about today. And I will read the
00:31:19.680questions as they are, and then I will summarize them and invite, inshallah, to our speakers to
00:31:25.260speak. So the first question was, how is young, born, and raised Canadians? Can we apply ourselves,
00:31:32.680especially in politics, to infiltrate the Western world? Well, it's very interesting because
00:31:38.180there is a measure, in the States, I've heard it called the Red-Green Alliance. You can see
00:31:43.740it ilhan omar uh who's a radical in her own way but she's right at home with far left i'd say
00:31:50.180communists you sure can see it in the uk where their green party has two co-leaders one is a
00:31:58.120secular gay jew and the other is a radical muslim who dresses even though he's born in sheffield0.91
00:32:04.140dresses in the full pakistani garb you've just got this bizarre alliance for now they both believe0.98
00:32:11.400in destroying the West. What it looks like afterwards is a huge difference. It's either a0.94
00:32:16.580Sharia law or a total gay environmental utopia. I'm pretty sure I know which one of those is going1.00
00:32:22.360to win if the battle gets kinetic. But in the meantime, they both hate the UK. And in Ilhan
00:32:28.640Omer's case, she hates the US. I think we're seeing a lot of that here, but they've just so far
00:32:34.580kept it fairly quiet. I mean, you have to go to one of their conferences to hear it.
00:32:39.460was there any other media there i mean i presume there was some media from local muslim
00:32:43.780uh news sources but i i i know without even asking that you were the only
00:32:48.360english journalist there is that right if there was i'm not aware yeah maybe there are other people
00:32:56.900no i you know i didn't even need to answer that ask that question i know the answer to that
00:33:01.140well um do you think you'll be allowed to attend future conferences like that now that
00:33:05.900you know your name and your face are associated with your critical but accurate reporting um do
00:33:11.640you think they're confident enough that they would say sure come on in it's not like anyone's
00:33:14.960going to stop us or do you think they would say oh uh there's a loose end here got to keep her out
00:33:19.640listen this is not the first time that i've done this and people call it infiltrate i'll just
00:33:25.600point out there's no infiltration here i thought right in you're walking in the front door with
00:33:29.840real name going to a thing right i know i was fully aware i didn't hide my name i'm not i have
00:33:36.180no secrets to keep um so i knew full well going in that if i was going to write about it afterwards
00:33:41.760that there will never be an opportunity for me to do this ever again i'm aware of that
00:33:47.440however if other citizens would like to do a similar thing i would encourage you to but i
00:33:53.480would also encourage citizens to remember that we can sit at home complaining about things or we can
00:34:00.700actually participate in our own uh democracy our own cities our own municipalities and so on so
00:34:07.220forth right like we can actually go there's no reason why you can't do these things um i have
00:34:12.920to point out that this organization they are not street um street protesters they are not screaming
00:34:19.560and shouting um they're very well educated you know they're very well spoken the crowd was very
00:34:25.640polite i mean even the questions they they didn't even raise their hands in that question they wrote
00:34:30.320them down on a piece but everything's very civilized you know so so no i don't think anyone
00:34:34.960should be afraid of engaging civically with with people we may agree or not disagree with
00:34:39.980you know it's not like i walked in there and started shouting at people i listened very
00:34:43.840respectfully and so i i would encourage other people if you're curious you you should do it
00:34:48.800Yeah. Well, I appreciate you saying that. That said, it did take a lot of courage for you to do so. You didn't know how it would go and you went anyway. So congratulations. Great journalism. The story, it's in Juno News. Headline exclusive. Islamic Youth Session Promoted Muslim Brotherhood Activism Model. And I should say that the Muslim Brotherhood is banned in many countries as a terrorist group. Melanie Bennett, great work. Thanks for coming on the show.