Rebel News Podcast - May 30, 2025


EZRA LEVANT | Toronto City Hall announces race-exclusive homeless shelter


Episode Stats

Length

46 minutes

Words per Minute

165.7214

Word Count

7,675

Sentence Count

60

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

19


Summary

In this episode, Ezra talks about the legacy of civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. and the impact of his "I Have a Dream" speech on the rise of racism in the United States. He also talks about how the Black Lives Matter movement has contributed to the rise in racism in America.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Bad news for you. If you're homeless, there is going to be a new homeless
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00:01:41.680 Tonight, the government plans to open a racist,
00:01:49.180 homeless shelter. I'll tell you all about it. It's May 29th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:57.260 Shame on you, you censorious bug.
00:02:09.040 I was born in the 1970s, and I was taught that it was wrong to judge people by the color of their skin.
00:02:14.920 In fact, Martin Luther King Jr. talked about judging people by the content of their character instead.
00:02:21.600 I don't know if you've heard his I Have a Dream speech, but it really was wonderful. Here's my favorite part of it.
00:02:26.920 I have a dream that one day, this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed.
00:02:38.760 We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal.
00:02:45.500 I have a dream that one day on the red hills of joy, sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.
00:03:11.860 I have a dream that one day, even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression,
00:03:29.580 will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.
00:03:33.680 I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
00:03:49.140 I have a dream today.
00:03:52.640 Martin Luther King didn't talk about replacing white supremacy with black supremacy.
00:03:57.900 he talks about equality and friendship even amongst the children of former slaves and former
00:04:04.500 slave owners not to punish the children of the slave owners but to be friends with them
00:04:09.080 I think it was Abraham Lincoln who said do I not destroy my enemies when I make them my friends so
00:04:14.460 yeah that's what I grew up believing that's what I was taught I think it's true Canada especially
00:04:20.160 we weren't a country of slavery we didn't have the history of the U.S. South that Martin Luther
00:04:24.960 King was talking about it was easy to get along up here there wasn't unfinished business so to speak
00:04:30.160 and if you didn't try to right a wrong by committing the equal but opposite wrong I mean that that's
00:04:36.700 really what I think a lot of modern racism is don't you think that that was part of the message
00:04:41.900 Martin Luther King Jr. was obviously angry about the world but he was dreaming about a world of
00:04:47.720 forgiveness and peace so that speech was in 1963 he was assassinated in 1968 the civil rights movement
00:04:55.900 had a bitter half of it it had black supremacists it had the Malcolm X reactionaries but it also had
00:05:02.600 more success than I think anyone could have imagined let me skip ahead to the point Barack Obama was
00:05:09.320 elected and then re-elected I mean that it's almost unthinkable that that would have happened just 50
00:05:14.540 years earlier he even won some southern states former slave states North Carolina Virginia which
00:05:21.220 was the seat of the confederacy but actually I think it was Barack Obama and the entire woke movement
00:05:26.760 around him that took what should have been that final healing moment and taught people to divide and
00:05:33.340 politicize again Obama could have been a great unifier I mean he technically himself was half black and
00:05:39.140 half white he was proof of unity but instead he went full identity politics he countenanced the rise
00:05:45.600 of the Black Lives Matter rioters and a dozen other social pathogens that I think have actually caused
00:05:51.840 racism to rise since his election not decline as you might have thought it would there's nothing more
00:05:58.520 racist than DEI and it's the vengeance kind of racism that's so opposite of what Martin Luther King
00:06:05.140 called for DEI tells us to remember our differences not to look at what unites us now so much of what
00:06:11.840 I've just said is a U.S. story and we watch so much U.S. TV and U.S. movies and even rap videos we think
00:06:19.920 that their story is our story because we read so much about it we see so much about the story of race
00:06:25.220 and gangs and slavery and discrimination not really I mean obviously we weren't perfect but we were the
00:06:31.960 destination for the underground railway of runaway slaves we were the free place you'll remember that
00:06:36.660 it was the British Empire of which Canada was a part until 1867 that if that was what effectively
00:06:43.580 ended slavery first ended the slave trade and then ended slavery itself Canada benefited from that we
00:06:51.040 never had slavery so please help me understand this as published in the Toronto Sun newspaper great story
00:06:58.860 by the way very well researched and I'm glad they published it the headline is this black mandated
00:07:07.360 homeless shelter on way City Hall confirms Toronto officials are taking applications until Friday
00:07:15.820 for City Council's new black mandated shelter where everyone from employees to the homeless could be
00:07:22.860 excluded on the basis of race oh that's lovely going out on a limb here non-black people will still be
00:07:30.780 deeply involved by having to pay for all this so don't worry if you're not black and worried you'll
00:07:36.640 be shut out you'll still be included your taxes will at least let me keep reading City Hall has also
00:07:41.740 decreed that experience in running a shelter is not a requirement for those submitting applications
00:07:46.880 oh really well what could possibly go wrong quote the city shelter and support services division says
00:07:54.740 the new shelter will help make Toronto services reflective of the diversity of the city but offered
00:08:00.760 no specifics as to where it would go or when it might open diversity I thought diversity meant variety not
00:08:08.340 just one race I'm I might be clearer to understand if someone had proposed a whites only homeless shelter
00:08:15.880 would anyone call that diversity but no one is that racist except this is exactly the same thing
00:08:22.240 I'll keep reading a city document says shelter services is developing quote at least one black
00:08:29.120 mandated shelter by 2033 unquote 2033 that that's eight years from that takes takes eight years to build a
00:08:40.060 homeless shelter eight years the whole second world war wasn't even six years of course it takes eight
00:08:47.760 years you see there's so many important people who are in the poverty industry and of course we have
00:08:53.980 to go through their processes and their consultations you see a lot of very important people have to have
00:08:58.660 very important meetings for which they're all paid it's not actually about homeless people it's about
00:09:03.220 people who profit off homeless people it's very different I'd even put the mayor of Toronto in
00:09:09.060 that despite her dressing up for carabana here she's actually not black herself and I guess
00:09:14.740 she would be banned from the homeless shelter if things don't turn out well for her let me keep
00:09:20.180 reading that document a set of guidelines for prospective applicants for the shelter contract
00:09:24.540 says the intention is quote to provide opportunities for black mandated non-profits also referred to as
00:09:31.180 b3 the document says I'm so stupid I thought the purpose of a homeless shelter was to help the
00:09:39.340 homeless I didn't know that they were saying the quiet part out loud just being a scheme to enrich people
00:09:46.020 in the poverty industry that's what they're saying it's not actually about the homeless it's about
00:09:49.900 actually getting the money into the right people's hands the contractors people the consultants all right
00:09:56.760 I'll skip ahead in the story they say the guidelines document is 22 pages long and includes a four-page
00:10:02.980 glossary of terms such as anti-racism diaspora interpersonal racism and my favorite structural racism
00:10:10.660 the section on providing financial details meanwhile consists of two short paragraphs I this is a great
00:10:18.120 report by the sun I love that this proposal had a four-page glossary I'm sure that will be very helpful
00:10:23.980 and comforting for homeless people who are turned away for being the wrong race they can look up all
00:10:28.960 these DEI ideas oh and the good news is there are more racial set-asides coming quote the BE3's shelter
00:10:35.780 competition follows a similar process for an indigenous shelter which could move to construction as soon as
00:10:41.700 this year got it you know words like ghetto and reserve can have a negative connotation they're often slums
00:10:49.440 they're often hopeless places they're places of grievance it's shocking but not surprising that the city of Toronto
00:10:55.360 is actually turning those into pluses they want to build ghettos and reserves in their homeless system I thought
00:11:03.160 that we all had agreed left and right that Indian reserves and the Indian Act were terribly racist well
00:11:10.120 that's sort of hot right now as you can see I love this part of the story City Hall declined to make anyone
00:11:18.100 available to the Toronto Sun for an interview about the new shelter in a statement Loretta Ramadin
00:11:23.140 shelter services planning director told the Sun it is quote important to ensure community services
00:11:28.480 are reflective of the diversity in our city got it so only black people equaled equals diversity
00:11:35.100 black individuals are overrepresented among people experiencing homelessness Ramadin said
00:11:40.600 signing a 2021 study that found they make up nine percent of Toronto as a whole but 31 percent of its
00:11:46.180 homeless population the need has only grown amid an unprecedented surge of refugee claimants in the
00:11:51.740 city in the years since she said well I think she's on to something about the refugee claimants
00:11:56.920 I don't believe those stats if she's quoting stats from 2021 maybe they were accurate back then and of course
00:12:04.080 indigenous people are even more overrepresented amongst the homeless in Canada but but look at those
00:12:09.320 stats four years ago and by the way shame on the city for shutting down homeless shelters using
00:12:14.920 COVID as an excuse but as anyone who has stepped outside in any Canadian city or town knows
00:12:20.500 Justin Trudeau has added literally five million migrants to our country in the last couple of years
00:12:26.560 some of whom are getting by economically but many of whom are now in dire straits I'd like to see the
00:12:33.980 2025 stats of who is in our homeless shelters including breaking it down by what country they're citizens of
00:12:40.580 how many foreigners who came here to be temporary foreign workers or international students are in our
00:12:46.140 homeless shelters instead but I have a few other questions I have some practical questions
00:12:51.880 how black do you have to be to use a black only homeless shelter real question if you're half black
00:13:00.840 does that count is that enough I mean Barack Obama was half black his mom was white how about if you're
00:13:08.900 quarter black or an eighth or is it like that funny meme from family guy where they have a swath a swatch
00:13:17.120 of different colors that you have to check your skin against this sounds like a goofy question or a joke
00:13:23.100 but it's not it's a real question it's actually a legal question who gets a government benefit and who
00:13:29.880 gets a government punishment and who does not those are legal questions and both of being homeless and
00:13:36.900 staying there and the real purpose of this which is to slosh around the government money to
00:13:41.280 the poverty industry it all turns on race so I say again
00:13:44.480 how black do you have to be to get a contract let's just cut out the homelessness part
00:13:49.740 to get a contract how black do you have to be
00:13:52.420 during the slavery era in the U.S. South they developed racist
00:13:58.020 nomenclature in the law I don't even want to say the words in this context but they
00:14:02.900 they had to they called someone who was a quarter black
00:14:07.020 the word quadroon and someone who was one eighth black they used the word octoroon I
00:14:13.060 what an insane word I I hate the fact that I'm saying these words
00:14:17.460 but that's I think we have to call it out that's historically what these words were for
00:14:22.540 judging who had rights and who did not imagine categorizing your population like that but but you
00:14:28.120 had to otherwise how could you know who to discriminate against and who not to
00:14:33.160 by the way the Nazis did the same thing and the South Africans did the same thing
00:14:36.980 if you have a racist regime you need to be able to determine who's what race
00:14:42.220 and you have to handle as the Nazis called it mixlings or michlings
00:14:46.800 if you were half Jewish obviously were killed but if you were one eighth Jewish
00:14:51.220 they wouldn't kill you but you certainly wouldn't be allowed to join the SS
00:14:54.500 what are the rules in Toronto I want to know and who are drafting the rules are
00:14:58.340 they relying on I don't know US slave precedents are they relying on South
00:15:04.300 African apartheid precedents are they dipping into the Nazi precedents where are
00:15:08.940 they getting their rules from because they have to have rules if I showed up
00:15:13.000 today and said I'm black they need to have some system of saying yes you are no
00:15:17.800 you're not and that means they have to do the same thing the Nazis the apartheid and
00:15:21.840 the slavers did can you be half black can you be a quarter black can you be an
00:15:26.040 eighth black how do you prove it if you're 70 years old and you claim that one
00:15:29.880 of your grandparents was black that would make you a quarter black how do you
00:15:33.380 prove it if your black grandparent passed away 25 years or 50 years ago and
00:15:37.100 even longer if you claim you're one eighth black if is there going to be some
00:15:40.440 sort of DNA test that they're going to do like some COVID jab they stick
00:15:45.180 something in your nose get some DNA and do a test on you is that is that
00:15:49.860 where we're going with all this what if you what's the word everyone's using
00:15:53.840 now what what if you identify that Rachel Dolezal did same way so many failed
00:15:59.900 men in sports simply identify they declare that they're women now and then they go
00:16:04.120 on to crush it playing against actual women in sports those are called trans
00:16:07.900 women can you be trans black and if your answer is no but you believe in
00:16:14.080 transgenderism can you give me a coherent reason why trans black is not a thing
00:16:19.460 but trans women are here's one if you're a black migrant who has just
00:16:25.880 arrived in Canada you're not a citizen you've never paid taxes here you have no
00:16:30.140 roots here you just got off an airplane but you're black do you have priority in
00:16:36.560 this homeless shelter as against say an aboriginal Canadian homeless person whose
00:16:42.360 family predates every settler and migrant that's a real question because so many
00:16:48.120 urban Indians are poor and homeless why are other people getting ahead in line
00:16:53.260 because of race welcome to DEI gone full circle Toronto is perhaps the most racist
00:17:01.680 city in Canada and it starts at the top doesn't it great story by the sun stay with
00:17:09.800 us for more I saw the most outrageous headline the other day on the CBC it was so gross I think
00:17:27.100 they were popping champagne bottles I mean they they treat it as an amazing victory no one inside
00:17:34.620 that corporation told them how bad it looked here was the headline that they have since changed the
00:17:39.900 headline was how we shut down one of Canada's biggest news content farms so just in case you're
00:17:48.880 wondering the we is the CBC and a content farm really is a negative word for a news site the CBC did a news
00:17:59.000 story about themselves and the central part of the story was not reporting on this content farm that you could
00:18:08.580 make up your own mind if you liked it or not the central part of the story it was even part of their
00:18:14.600 headline was victory for CBC silencing and shutting down arrival so so gross they've since changed their
00:18:24.540 headline someone has told them how bad it looked the new headline is this Canadian content farm
00:18:31.060 topped the politics charts on YouTube before it was taken down but in a way that's not honest is it because
00:18:39.540 it doesn't disclose that the CBC had it taken down so I'm not sure which headline is worse the old one which was
00:18:48.020 honest and boastful and censorious or the new one that downplays and I'd say even hides their own
00:18:55.920 culpability never trust the CBC and we're not going to trust the CBC now even though we are going to talk
00:19:02.280 to the man behind the news site now we're taking two precautions and this was a promise we made we're not
00:19:08.720 going to say his name we're not going to show his face we're going to blur his face and we're going to
00:19:13.880 very slightly garble his voice and the reason for this is that we don't want him to be fired he has a job
00:19:23.020 this is something he did as a personal project and this gentleman and I'm not going to say his name is
00:19:29.020 worried that the CBC will come after him the CBC may yet come after him they've destroyed his business and
00:19:38.620 they want to destroy him joining us now is Mr. X who lives I'll just say in Atlantic Canada Mr. X thank you for
00:19:46.780 joining us today thank you for having me and for giving me a voice to just be able to tell Canadians
00:19:55.160 what the CBC is doing with all of our hard-earned money that they get over 1.5 billion dollars every
00:20:02.060 year and instead of you know reporting on things that are relevant to Canadians they decide to go
00:20:08.760 after business owners and creators and shot us down because we were having more views than they do
00:20:16.120 yeah I think that's what it was that that jealousy comes through let me I'm going to read a little bit
00:20:20.580 from the CBC store I'm going to read a bit and I'm going to ask you for your reaction so I'm just this
00:20:26.820 is how they set it they like I say they've tweaked the headline already here's the story and by the
00:20:33.640 way they had one two three four reporters on this story this was the most important story in Canada
00:20:41.100 according to the CBC they put four reporters and a number of editors on it a YouTube account that was
00:20:46.940 the most popular Canada-based news and politics channel during much of the 2025 federal election
00:20:52.240 has been taken down by YouTube following inquiries from CBC News's visual investigations team and
00:20:59.680 Radio Canada's Descripteurs real talk politics regularly published confrontational partisan video
00:21:06.980 clips about politics that have been watched by millions of people well um that's the nature about
00:21:13.840 politics is it is partisan and it is sometimes confrontational um Mr. X why don't you
00:21:21.960 describe your YouTube page they're saying it was controversial and partisan my first reaction is
00:21:28.100 who cares uh that's what an election is what's your reaction to this accusation by the CBC
00:21:34.580 I wonder if the CBC's ever watched their own content I know not many people do but I figured
00:21:42.100 at least they would watch it because that's what they do um my my reaction to that is that it makes
00:21:49.560 absolutely no sense I was just hosting a YouTube channel a very successful one as well just pointing
00:21:58.020 out things that were wrong and highlighting how my values align more with being a conservative and just
00:22:06.340 I wanted to share my ideas with the world I added original commentary to every single video
00:22:12.240 gave it my own touch edited and um you know they decided that that wasn't good enough and decided
00:22:19.640 to reach out to YouTube to try and get it taken down as they mentioned later in the article just
00:22:24.680 because I was getting more views something else I wanted to mention is they clearly do not understand
00:22:30.380 how YouTube or the internet works because they were saying that I was getting all of these views in
00:22:38.700 Canada but my channel was international if anything I was a Canadian entrepreneur selling a service
00:22:45.580 making money making taxes and they decided to shut me down just because they didn't like my political
00:22:52.180 views yeah I think that if you were liberal leaning they would have praised you and celebrated you now
00:22:57.900 you told me just before we turned the cameras on that when uh the CBC first reached out to you
00:23:03.340 they were deceptive they they sort of they were trying to coax you into a conversation with them
00:23:09.380 and they well I'll just say it they lied they made it sound like they were going to praise you as a
00:23:15.260 success story why don't you tell our viewers the kind of things the CBC said to you to trick you into
00:23:21.920 engaging with them yeah so pretty much they were emailing me multiple times throughout this entire process
00:23:31.380 and the first email that Nora who's the lady that's on the video sent me was hello we're writing an
00:23:38.740 article on successful Canadian content creators we would like to get your position on real talk
00:23:46.460 politics as it seems it's been one of the most successful accounts in Canada actually it ranked
00:23:53.820 number two amongst Canadian accounts for the highest numbers of views and uh yeah we want to ask you how you
00:24:03.340 understood the algorithm and just share your story with the rest of the world so they were making it seem like
00:24:10.620 they were making a story about a successful creator and they wanted me to share how I understood the YouTube
00:24:16.780 algorithm and why I was getting more views than them yeah well let me read just a little bit more
00:24:22.540 because again jealousy here shines through and you're right to mention they get 1.5 billion dollars
00:24:29.100 you do this as an after work hobby and the fact that you were cleaning their clock and you beat us too by
00:24:34.980 the way I salute you if you're looking for work we'd love to have you because you got that magic touch
00:24:42.260 I I look at you with some admiration and thinking wow how does he do it the CBC looks at you and says
00:24:48.860 how do we destroy him let me read a little bit more from their story they say the channel racked up
00:24:53.880 almost 70 million views from April 3rd to April 30th according to data from viewstats.com it's currently
00:25:01.160 the third most viewed Canada based news and politics channel over the last three months you say it's in
00:25:06.580 second place I believe you and then and then here is their condemnation of you
00:25:10.500 it's just one example of what experts oh I love these experts referred to as the content or
00:25:17.760 engagement farming phenomenon in which individuals organizations tailor their content to tap into
00:25:24.640 the algorithm of the platform and boost their popularity now I don't understand what's wrong
00:25:30.380 with that that is every editor's job not just on the internet but you know one of the funnest jobs
00:25:37.220 in journalism is writing the front page headline especially in the sun you're trying to think well
00:25:43.320 what's funny or provocative or is there a pun I can use you know boost you know tap into the algorithm of
00:25:54.200 the platform and boost their popularity that is what every single writer publisher author youtuber in the world
00:26:01.420 does there's nothing nefarious about trying to get people to watch your stuff and they don't actually
00:26:07.800 say anything you've done wrong I mean it's a very long article but there I think you've nailed it I think
00:26:15.380 they're just furious that someone has beat them and that someone doesn't have 1.5 billion dollars
00:26:22.660 and that that someone is maybe a little bit on the conservative side what do you think
00:26:26.100 I I couldn't agree more I I was actually talking to my friends and I was like well
00:26:31.660 not not everyone gets a lot of government money and they can afford to not get any views
00:26:37.260 and what I would say as well is if they learn how the algorithm works maybe their videos would have
00:26:44.640 more than 10,000 views yeah you'd think that they have enough staff for that I'm going to keep reading
00:26:51.300 a little bit more because it just shows I think you're right when you say they don't understand the
00:26:54.900 internet this story shows that they they just it's almost like they're making a story about
00:27:01.420 how little they know about the internet um it's a particular form of a content farm right because
00:27:08.520 a content farm can take many different forms said Paris Marx a Canadian-based technology expert
00:27:14.620 and host of the podcast tech won't save us these channels seem to be using political content in
00:27:20.400 particular and what they feel is going to drive engagement he said Marx noted that the
00:27:24.680 political content farms could be both left or right-leaning so far I'm thinking so what like
00:27:30.240 this I just don't understand how this is an issue and I don't understand how the CBC nominates itself
00:27:37.940 to be the censor um I I just I mean here's something that really bugs them you know sometimes
00:27:45.140 a guy like Ben Shapiro or Charlie Kirk or Stephen Crowder will go into a hostile place and engage in
00:27:53.660 a debate like Charlie Kirk's really famous for going on university campuses and Stephen Crowder is really
00:27:58.740 famous for setting up a booth that says uh you know convince me I'm wrong or something and these guys have
00:28:04.480 debates and they get pretty good at debating and one of the ways that people have headlines is he crushed
00:28:10.020 them or something and it's sort of you know it's it's a fun headline they really hate that let me read
00:28:15.620 from the CBC short form videos on the YouTube channel often featured a conservative figure as they
00:28:22.600 quote humiliate destroy or humble a liberal one the approximately one long one minute long videos feature
00:28:29.380 what seems to be an AI voiceover and include some edits and images to illustrate what is being discussed
00:28:35.360 one of the recent videos was entitled Canada's corrupt woke government again I'm waiting for the
00:28:41.100 news here I'm waiting for the problem on TikTok everyone uses AI voices you just sort of type it in
00:28:47.240 and there's a few voices you can choose from it's sort of a fun TikTok thing literally it's normal
00:28:54.800 most TikTok users do it I'm trying to see the problem here I think they just don't know I think
00:29:02.780 they're just still using aol.com or something or geo cities I think they have no bloody clue about the
00:29:09.220 internet and they're scared of it and they're scared of you and they wanted to smash you
00:29:13.440 I couldn't agree more and also I know you're gonna blur my my voice just to make sure they
00:29:20.660 they stop coming after me but as you can hear me talking now I don't know if you had an opportunity
00:29:26.160 to watch one of the videos before the channel was taken down but it is my my voice like it's not a
00:29:33.500 general AI like I optimize it using AI because we're in the age of AI so why wouldn't I make it
00:29:40.240 sound better like I don't again I don't have a billion dollars to buy a studio so it sounds
00:29:45.200 professional so I I do the best I can with tools I have at my disposal and something else I wanted to
00:29:53.340 it's funny you mentioned Charlie you mentioned Ben so same as you like I'm more conservative and I
00:30:00.460 feel it's good to share those values to make sure that younger people get interested in politics
00:30:06.680 yes I'm more on the conservative side but if you're a liberal and you don't want to watch the channel
00:30:12.920 for one you don't have to but for two at least it's going to get you interested what I wanted to
00:30:17.360 do was get more younger Canadians interested in the political discourse just to make sure people
00:30:22.500 are more engaged because no one is watching the cvc I watched it over the election none of my friends
00:30:28.280 were interested in what was happening and it was one of the most important elections of our life
00:30:32.720 and well we saw what happened so that's something I I just wanted to have a popular channel that got
00:30:40.460 younger people interested in politics and also funny enough I made a video about you they really
00:30:45.500 didn't like that too when they arrested you wrongly for just exercising your right and uh that video
00:30:53.420 got like three million views so I'm assuming now and um they didn't like it as well either now I have
00:30:59.060 in front of me the uh latest version of the cvc story so I I know they've made some changes to it so
00:31:05.620 I'm going to have to compare this to an older version they're trying to downplay their censorship
00:31:10.220 here's how they have revised their story like I said they revised the headline to be less boastful
00:31:16.480 but it's less honest now here's what they're saying now cvc news had initially reached out to youtube
00:31:22.120 for comment on real talk politics and the company's policies around content farms and included an example
00:31:28.260 of a video published by retail politics that featured an ai altered ronald reagan telling a joke so it's got
00:31:35.220 nothing to do with the canadian election the joke which appears to have originated in the mid-2000s
00:31:41.240 was never told in public by reagan the video adapts footage from the former u.s final address
00:31:47.580 um with an ai voiceover it was posted by real talk politics and several other accounts seen by cvc news
00:31:52.640 real talk politics told cvc news they were not aware the reagan video was ai generated having found
00:31:59.000 the clip elsewhere on youtube without an ai label so yeah that's what happens I mean these things
00:32:05.000 happen I know our new minister of ai his name is evan solomon he literally retweeted a doctored picture
00:32:12.700 of a campaign bus that I think had the word retard on it I'm sorry to say it I think that's the word
00:32:19.140 so yeah people can retweet things online that someone else made the cvc is lying when they say oh we're just
00:32:26.600 curious what your policies are I've seen this a million times when journalists call up a platform and say
00:32:33.720 do you have something to say about someone breaking your rules they're really saying take it down or
00:32:39.260 we're going to attack the platform itself it's a kind of bullying it's kind of mob mentality they
00:32:44.620 couldn't find anything you were doing that was wrong nothing you were doing that was outside the norm
00:32:50.280 they found some reagan joke and that's how they got you taken down looks like is that what it was or was
00:32:57.280 there something else that was exactly it um I want I want to make a few points here so for one
00:33:04.840 kind of addressing that issue about the ai youtube's own policy says that when the creator doesn't label
00:33:13.000 it youtube has mechanisms in place to label it and if it's just a one case scenario they'll just label
00:33:21.680 it and like it doesn't even warn the strike or warning you're on youtube you know how they operate
00:33:27.040 and uh if you do it repeatedly without labeling it as ai that's when they start taking some action so
00:33:34.540 this was the first video the only video out of 300 that had ai generated that's the one thing second
00:33:40.980 thing I saw that video on at least 10 different channels 10 different channels none had it label
00:33:48.600 because usually they have to label it and then I went back they took my channel down but what
00:33:54.060 happened to those channels youtube just auto label it as ai so why didn't they do that to me
00:33:59.380 the cbc doesn't say they complained about any other channels they say they saw it on other channels
00:34:04.940 but they didn't complain about those other channels it's clear it was a bad faith complaint against you
00:34:10.180 um let me ask you this have you appealed this have you objected to youtube it's so clear to me what
00:34:18.160 happened they were threatened by cbc cbc is even trying to doctor their own article that's unethical
00:34:25.360 they're hiding what they did they're changing words in their article um to hide the fact that they
00:34:31.960 took down a conservative site youtube was obviously pressured youtube doesn't know you you're not a big
00:34:38.720 guy you're not a big company you're just an ordinary guy so they thought well path of least resistance
00:34:45.840 is do what the state broadcaster says stay in good graces with the government have you tried to
00:34:52.320 appeal this have you have you tried to talk to youtube and say look it was an honest mistake
00:34:57.480 about a reagan joke there's nothing nothing malicious about it a lot of other sites have it
00:35:02.140 happy to take that down let me continue with my business have you have you had any discussions with
00:35:07.080 youtube i have but sadly no no action was taken from them it felt like i was just talking to a
00:35:16.180 robot the entire time and the only time when i spoke to a real person was when i i posted on twitter
00:35:23.480 the the tweets started getting some traction and they actually reached out to me they were like hey
00:35:28.560 give us a sec we're actually going to review it but then they just waited a couple of days until
00:35:33.740 they died out a little bit and then just told me hey we're gonna uphold our decision you violated our
00:35:40.040 terms of service which i again just in case it wasn't clear before didn't do 300 videos
00:35:46.720 verified channel 320 000 subscribers so youtube partner as well which you know youtube if they
00:35:56.260 make your youtube partner it's because they're aware that you're not breaking any of their rules
00:35:59.840 so it was clearly just cvc reaching out to someone because i don't i don't even think cvc something
00:36:07.860 else that i didn't mention i woke up i saw my channel had been terminated i was freaking out
00:36:13.340 and then i i wake up and i get an email from cvc hey we were doing story now they changed the tone
00:36:22.440 we're doing story about your channel about content farms and we have gotten confirmation from youtube
00:36:28.820 that it was taken down because it violated our spam policies information that was not publicly
00:36:35.920 available if you go right now and report a channel on youtube youtube is not going to reach out to
00:36:40.320 you and tell you hey we took it down because of this especially if they're claiming that they
00:36:45.620 they told youtube hey this ai video had an issue that's a different policy that was allegedly
00:36:53.680 violated by me sorry and the fact that they knew more about your own business than you did they
00:37:00.760 had information you didn't have shows so obviously that they were the malefactors here and this is the
00:37:07.380 definition of a bad faith article i think that they've gone too far here i think they are morally wrong
00:37:14.600 i think they violated their own ethics code i think they have misled their viewers i think they have
00:37:22.280 pretended this was journalism in fact it was liberal party activism but i think they've done one more
00:37:27.620 thing i think they've induced a breach of contract between you and youtube i think they have
00:37:34.040 intentionally interfered with your economic relations those phrases i've just used are legal terms i think
00:37:42.120 that the cbc has committed what's called a tort against you a legal wrong and i think that youtube
00:37:49.440 has as well and i don't know if you have any interest in the subject but i'd be interested in
00:37:55.440 discussing with you offline if you have any interest in in taking a legal remedy here because i think what
00:38:02.020 we have just seen is bullying the sorts i thought youtube had left behind once donald trump became
00:38:09.980 president donald trump became president all of a sudden the social media companies had started to
00:38:15.180 talk about freedom again and relaxing censorship and mark zuckerberg and and elon musk and rumble
00:38:23.780 and there was this move towards freedom i feel like the way you were bullied by the thugs at the
00:38:30.040 government broadcaster is a flashback to the bad old days and i think they're only doing it to you
00:38:36.620 mr x because you're a regular joe and i'm guessing you don't have a lawyer and i'm guessing you you're
00:38:44.460 not in a position to fight i mean i don't have all the facts of your case i've only been talking to you
00:38:49.860 for 10 minutes but i think you were legally wronged i think a malicious competitor obviously jealous
00:38:58.000 ideologically opposed approached you in bad faith lied to you about what they were up to
00:39:04.920 approached youtube in bad faith they tried to scare and shake down youtube and they succeeded
00:39:11.440 and i think that you were wronged by both parties that's my view
00:39:15.540 i i i think the same thing and i've just been going over and over again what could have happened
00:39:24.760 i reviewed every single one of the videos i had posted as i said i never had an issue with youtube
00:39:30.460 all of my videos were monetized nothing no stride no nothing until the cvc started reaching out and
00:39:38.780 it seems to like that original email they sent me was over a month ago and then they never said
00:39:44.540 anything so it feels like they were just targeting me until they could have something that would give
00:39:50.100 them the ability to go to youtube and say hey why is this account posting this yeah well listen i'm very
00:39:58.280 glad to meet you i salute you and your smarts uh i'm if someone say ezra are you jealous of mr x i'd say
00:40:06.420 sure but in a good way i want to learn to be as good as him i want to improve uh rebel news i'm not
00:40:12.720 looking to tear him down uh that's the difference between me and the cbc you clean both of our clocks in
00:40:19.700 terms of finding ways to write headlines um and to do other things to with smart editing to be the most
00:40:27.780 one of the most successful websites in the election i look at that and say wow what tips or tricks can i
00:40:34.320 learn a government journalist for the cbc looks at that and says wow how do i kill it that's the
00:40:41.360 difference between real journalists like you and me and government journalists like the cbc and i think
00:40:47.920 this should not be the end of it i'm gonna uh see if i can be in touch with you privately and maybe we can
00:40:53.680 talk a little bit here because i think you've been wronged and i think by the way to say the obvious
00:40:58.820 70 million people seem to like what you were doing and they've had their rights violated too
00:41:06.160 the cbc has decided that they are not allowed to have an alternative point of view i think they have
00:41:12.880 an interest here too so um it's a pleasure to talk with you if you don't mind i'm gonna give you a phone
00:41:19.160 call uh after this interview and maybe we can talk about the possibility of not having this end here
00:41:25.200 but maybe of having some sort of fight back absolutely thank you so much um for using your
00:41:32.500 platform to help us all small creators actually how i was about to give up but i have a network of
00:41:41.120 other canadian youtubers like clyde do something he's the person that reached out to me originally
00:41:47.120 made a video about it and encouraged me used to go on twitter probably one of the few social media
00:41:53.500 networks where you can actually say whatever you want as long as you're not damaging anyone which is
00:41:58.620 what freedom of speech should be and um it seemed like the movement and people started showing interest
00:42:05.600 because it's just not right like today and this is what i've said over and over again today it happened
00:42:10.820 to me but tomorrow it could happen to you or anyone else just because the cbc doesn't agree
00:42:17.200 with you they reach out to youtube and then they bully you out of the internet like you never insisted
00:42:22.460 something else i wanted to mention too i i feel like i'm being treated like if i was a terrorist
00:42:28.240 literally something else that youtube did they shut down my girlfriend's account because it wasn't my
00:42:34.320 phone they shut down my email they shut down my personal account really all of them were terminated
00:42:39.940 because they're uh they violated their community guidelines so because they were related to my
00:42:45.720 phone or my ip i don't know what it was but they were all shut down so now i can't even watch you do
00:42:51.400 wow yeah that is shocking that is shocking well mr x thank you for being so candid and open
00:43:00.280 with our viewers i think this story should not end here i think that you have been wronged
00:43:09.980 i know it feels like you're david versus goliath you're a regular guy young guy you have a day job
00:43:19.320 this was sort of a hobby you needed a good job at it and then the it's like goliath it's like david
00:43:25.100 versus goliath and goliath crushes you by threatening your social media platform that
00:43:31.440 just doesn't sit right with me and i don't think it sits right with our viewers let me be in touch
00:43:35.720 with you and let's see if we can have a different ending to this story nice to talk with you today
00:43:40.840 thanks for spending time with us thank you so much for having me all right our pleasure there you have
00:43:46.660 it we're calling him mr x because he cannot have his identity revealed but hopefully this is not the
00:43:53.100 end of the story stay with us your letters to me next
00:43:56.800 your letters to me on the trump administration visa restrictions for foreigners violating
00:44:11.660 americans free speech crazy trout catcher says fantastic starmer won't be crossing the atlantic then
00:44:19.380 you're talking about keir starmer in the uk oh i'd be careful if i was him or francis macron
00:44:24.740 certainly people in brazil patrick wood says anything that affects canadians negatively is blamed on
00:44:31.220 tariffs instead of reckless liberal policies and immigration yeah i'm not even sure what tariffs are in place
00:44:37.620 right now uh either way but i sure know two things the liberals are lying about it for political gain
00:44:42.620 and grocery stores like loblaws are lying about it so they can raise your prices
00:44:47.920 jay bling says no trump didn't hurt polyev's campaign polyev and his staff hurt polyev's campaign
00:44:55.680 don't say you're trump's biggest fan in canada because you aren't
00:44:58.540 um trump created an issue that that broke to mark carney's advantage i think that's just a fact
00:45:08.920 and as for saying whether or not i'm canada's biggest fan of trump i'm not saying you that i
00:45:14.880 can't be beat but rebel news is the only media company that endorsed trump in 2016 2020 and 2024
00:45:23.320 we endorsed him in the presidential primaries in 2015 and we paid the price for it we were
00:45:29.620 demonetized by youtube for eight years literally losing millions of dollars it took us down to zero
00:45:35.120 because we made a video of a trump tweet i i tell you that is why we were demonetized that's what
00:45:43.300 they said so there may be people who in their hearts are more trumpy than us but i think we bled
00:45:49.260 for it more than anyone and and that's why it's so tough it's a tough pill to swallow to know that
00:45:54.800 donald trump really let's get down to it he his tweets and video comments changed the landscape
00:46:02.080 enough to allow mark carney to win and it's something i'll be very sad about for a long time
00:46:06.280 that's our show for today until next time on behalf of all of us here at rebel world headquarters to
00:46:11.980 you at home good night and keep fighting for freedom
00:46:14.760 you