Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Toronto driver swarmed by protesters, arrested for attempt to escape

00:00:00.140 Hello, my friends. Caught on tape. Protesters swarm a car on a road in Toronto.

00:00:08.460 The driver drives away bumping one of them, but the swarmers are not charged. 1.00

00:00:14.240 The driver is. I'll have that for you and more.

00:00:17.160 But first, let me invite you to get Rebel News Plus because you've got to see the video to understand this.

00:00:22.360 I'm going to show you the video of this swarming several times from several angles, actually.

00:00:27.860 I'm even going to show you a swarming that happened in L.A. 30 years ago, the case of Reginald Denny.

00:00:33.280 If you're just shocking, I'd like you to see it.

00:00:36.060 I mean, I'll describe it to you, but I'd like you to see it.

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00:00:57.860 In Toronto, a driver is swarmed on the street with protesters.

00:01:04.480 He bumps into one as he drives away, but he's the one who gets charged, not them.

00:01:09.580 It's August 7th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:11.860 You're fighting for freedom.

00:01:15.200 Shame on you, you censorious bug. 0.88

00:01:17.860 Hey, Toronto is a total crime wave city. 0.90

00:01:29.860 It's becoming a failed state.

00:01:31.960 Here's the mayor of Toronto, Olivia Chow, dancing at the Carabana.

00:01:36.820 I'm not sure if I want to see any leader, left wing, right wing, young or old, dressed in that way.

00:01:44.980 But Olivia Chow has decided to be the costume party equivalent of Justin Trudeau. 1.00

00:01:50.600 Hey, if it worked for him, it might work for her.

00:01:52.600 She can dance her way from party to party while the city crumbles around her. 0.92

00:01:58.020 It's funny what she has time for and what she doesn't.

00:02:01.200 She refused to go to the March with Israel, one of the oldest and longstanding Jewish events in the city.

00:02:07.200 That might be too controversial, but obviously she's up for, I think it was like a scrambled egg festival or something that she skipped it for.

00:02:15.480 But let's talk about what's really happening in the city.

00:02:18.380 There's homeless encampments under the overpasses.

00:02:21.260 There's an incredible car theft crime wave.

00:02:25.560 People are literally installing bollards, you know what I mean?

00:02:28.580 Like those big post-retractable bollards on their own personal driveways to make it physically impossible for people to steal their cars.

00:02:38.880 It's an incredible thing to watch such an amazing city that once had the nickname Toronto the Good decline into, I don't know, it's not quite what Detroit is, but it's certainly on that path.

00:02:53.420 But I want to show you just a typical day in the life of Toronto.

00:02:57.720 In fact, the only reason this video I'm about to show you is interesting or novel is that it was captured on film from up high.

00:03:04.580 So it's actually a very interesting image.

00:03:06.880 But this sort of thing happens every single day in Toronto.

00:03:11.960 It's just not usually caught on camera.

00:03:14.200 Take a look at the video I'm about to show it to you.

00:03:16.800 Watch the black pickup truck.

00:03:19.060 And this is, for those who don't know Toronto, this is the major thoroughfare right down at the waterfront.

00:03:24.940 It's basically the east-west main highway in the downtown in the city.

00:03:30.140 Just take a look.

00:03:31.500 There's no sound to it.

00:03:33.620 You can see the black pickup truck.

00:03:35.880 Truck is being swarmed by one person, two people, five people approach.

00:03:40.140 Then a little bit later in the video, you can see a cop come up and talk to the driver, it looks like, while another protester is in front.

00:03:51.620 And in the last second of the clip, you can see that there's another protest on this road.

00:03:58.340 A Gardner Expressway, it's called.

00:03:59.800 So there was a series of road-stopping protests.

00:04:05.860 The driver was swarmed at one part, sped through, stopped, and was arrested.

00:04:12.820 And we now know he was charged with a crime.

00:04:15.940 From what we understand, none of the people swarming the car were charged with a crime.

00:04:20.820 Now, that was an interesting video and got a lot of action on Twitter.

00:04:24.640 Some people called it a pro-Hamas protest.

00:04:27.740 I'm sure if you had asked people there, they would say it was.

00:04:30.240 But here's another view from street level.

00:04:33.760 This is some photographs by our friend Karima Saad, who covers a lot of street protests.

00:04:41.040 And here's a videotape.

00:04:42.640 I'll be quiet while you listen to this one a little bit.

00:04:44.960 I'm going to let it run for a couple minutes.

00:04:46.200 I want you to hear the kind of person who rules the streets in Toronto, Canada, Canada's largest city, the fourth largest city in North America.

00:04:56.520 Just take a listen of who your new bosses are.

00:04:59.600 I want you to hear the kind of person who's going to get off the road.

00:05:04.100 Moving is off the road.

00:05:06.360 You do it.

00:05:07.340 No, why are you talking?

00:05:08.740 Get off the road.

00:05:09.820 Yo, we're going walking our way.

00:05:11.660 Moving.

00:05:12.340 We're still doing our thing here.

00:05:13.780 Off the road.

00:05:14.520 Get off the road.

00:05:15.640 Off the road.

00:05:16.260 That's the idea.

00:05:17.740 You don't get to be here.

00:05:20.580 Off the road.

00:05:21.320 Yo.

00:05:22.100 Off the road.

00:05:23.020 Off the road.

00:05:24.760 Off the road.

00:05:25.340 Go go, sweetheart. 1.00

00:05:26.540 No, we're trying to keep moving, but you guys are fucking around. 1.00

00:05:30.960 We're trying to keep moving, but you guys are fucking around. 1.00

00:05:33.120 Yeah, right. 0.99

00:05:33.760 I don't want to keep moving.

00:05:35.160 You were telling us to leave, and now you're telling us to stop? 0.99

00:05:37.760 Fucking leave over here. 1.00

00:05:39.120 Get off their land. 1.00

00:05:43.840 Get off their land.

00:05:45.860 Get off their land.

00:05:48.600 Get off their land.

00:05:50.780 Get off your land.

00:05:51.940 I'm not here.

00:05:54.940 I'm not here.

00:05:56.940 You sit on my desk.

00:05:58.940 Go go go go.

00:06:00.940 Go go.

00:06:02.940 Go back, go go.

00:06:06.940 Go back.

00:06:08.940 Go.

00:06:10.940 Go.

00:06:11.940 Go.

00:06:13.940 Go.

00:06:15.940 Go.

00:06:17.940 Go.

00:06:19.940 Go.

00:06:21.940 Justice for Tyler!

00:06:48.020 it's an unusual mix i think some of the masking and style is antifa which are paid left-wing

00:07:05.580 violent gangs there's sort of some ragamuffins there too some combination of ethnic identities 0.99

00:07:11.900 which of course is possible but they're playing all of those cards as political cards you saw at one

00:07:18.500 point a black protester shaming or trying to shame a black cop for daring to work for the man i'm sure 0.99

00:07:27.060 100 years ago or even more recently a black man being recruited for and serving in the police

00:07:34.940 department would have been seen not only as an exhibit of equality before the law but good news

00:07:41.320 for the black community i mean it's obviously that if someone is a black cop they're going to be

00:07:46.020 attentive to the needs of all communities including black people but no it's just another weapon to 1.00

00:07:51.260 attack a cop with by calling him a race traitor which is essentially what that woman was saying 1.00

00:07:57.380 the big takeaway of this video though is that no one's listening to the cops they're basically saying

00:08:04.300 please leave the street please and they don't and they dance around and laugh around

00:08:10.800 no one respects the toronto police and i think it's because they don't respect themselves now

00:08:16.980 i think uh that i'm sure everyone here would say they support hamas even though they couldn't find

00:08:22.940 gaza on a map they don't know anything other than hamas is a general way to fight the man um so they

00:08:29.300 would be for that just like they would be i don't know for greta tunberg they don't understand anything

00:08:33.540 about it other than it's a challenge to the system i think the protest was actually about this story

00:08:38.640 which involved a police shooting of a mentally unstable person and obviously that's of concern

00:08:44.360 but there are ways to express the concerns without without threatening people on the streets here's

00:08:49.660 just some more images to take a look at again from our friend karima sad here's what karima sad

00:08:57.020 tweeted herself she said there is significant overlap between protest circuits but this appears to be

00:09:03.480 an anti-police demonstration on behalf of tyler maxi core the red flag bearer who hit the vehicle

00:09:11.020 as it nearly ran over protesters has attended several recent events involving blocking traffic

00:09:17.120 downtown well that says a lot doesn't and karima knows because she's always covering these protests

00:09:22.680 so he's basically a rent part of a rent-a-mob probably paid people have to make a living somehow and

00:09:28.340 he just goes from protest to protest and of course blocking traffic typically over the last i don't

00:09:33.800 know 300 days has been the pro-hamas folks you can see in addition to the keffiyeh he's got the red

00:09:39.360 triangle hat that's a symbol that hamas uses on a target but he's also indigenous just a a full purpose

00:09:48.640 full service troublemaker the kind of person who gets called up and said this day you're holding this

00:09:53.700 protest sign tomorrow you hold this protest sign it's not organic it's bought and paid for and it's

00:09:59.420 a feature of life in a big city but here let's let's just watch the videotape of the truck again

00:10:04.000 now that we know a little bit more about what it looks like on street level i think it would be

00:10:08.040 accurate to call these people indigenous activists antifa activists professional protesters who just

00:10:16.580 sure they're for hamas because the latest thing take a look again the swarm the police stop and then the

00:10:21.840 others form

00:10:22.380 let me ask you the

00:10:51.820 if a driver is swarmed on the streets of toronto or anywhere else in canada but toronto in particular

00:10:58.880 a failed state where no one can reasonably rely on the police to do anything where for the last 10

00:11:05.960 months everyone knows that the police allows criminal gangs to patrol to rule the streets

00:11:11.800 they have that chant whose streets are streets if they have the right politics i mean of course the

00:11:16.560 trucker convoy they evicted them and invoked the emergencies act but if you have the correct

00:11:20.460 politics in the eyes of the police everyone knows the police select criminals do crimes so if you were

00:11:26.380 being swarmed by a gang that you know has impunity that the police as you could see is literally doing

00:11:32.380 nothing if you're in that car should you just have to hope that they're not going to kill you

00:11:39.560 or can you do what you typically do on a road which is drive away even if they're trying to block them

00:11:47.480 now i've watched this video a few times and here let's put it up right now as i'm talking again

00:11:50.780 he doesn't actually drive over anyone that i can see he bumps someone and i'm sure it was uncomfortable

00:11:57.040 but i don't think he physically drove over anyone i mean theoretically that could kill someone

00:12:02.700 i don't think that happened in reality he bumped a few people as he drove away but he

00:12:07.360 wasn't doing what i've seen on certain occasions someone deliberately ramming them

00:12:13.060 these people on the street were not as you sometimes see with that british group

00:12:19.160 no more oil or whatever just stop oil where they just get on the road link arms they're not

00:12:25.280 physically attacking cars they're just blocking them that was this is very different this driver

00:12:31.180 was not trying to ram a blockade this driver was not trying to break through this driver was

00:12:37.040 essentially stopped swarmed and decided i don't want to wait to see how this ends

00:12:43.260 he drove away and he was charged apparently you're not allowed to do that but i got a few questions for

00:12:50.620 is the rule the same if the driver of the vehicle is a woman i mean you saw the looks of some of those 1.00

00:12:58.440 protesters a few of them were women but there were some very big strong men and it looks like they

00:13:02.220 were hitting the truck with some weapons of some sort and it sounds like the man who was charged was a

00:13:08.580 man but what if it was a hundred pound woman in the car a car being swarmed by five people 1.00

00:13:14.440 let me go a little bit further what if it was a mother of a little baby in a car seat in the back 0.94

00:13:20.360 is she supposed to just stay there and do nothing while the car is swarmed and police do nothing as

00:13:28.720 they've shown that's their approach to things what crimes are drivers now supposed to abide i mean

00:13:34.760 i could think of something very minor a protester keying a car you know that's a phrase of someone

00:13:41.300 takes a key and just scratches the paint and the metal on your car mischief vandalism probably cost

00:13:47.580 you a thousand bucks depending on how fancy your car is do you have to accept your car being keyed

00:13:53.280 do you have to accept your window being smashed do you have to accept being assaulted being punched or

00:14:01.200 spat at even do you have to accept being pulled out of your car and beaten on the street do you have

00:14:06.520 to accept being killed like i would just like to know the answer if police are charging a man

00:14:11.060 for driving away not recklessly not taking the initiative but as a response to being attacked

00:14:16.460 what was he supposed to endure given that you just saw the police were doing nothing about this what

00:14:22.160 level i got a question for you a different question let me flip it around i mentioned 0.87

00:14:26.100 the dancing fool that's the mayor of toronto what level of violence keying the car smashing the window

00:14:34.860 assault what level of violence and criminality oh let's say wouldn't the mayor's own security detail 0.99

00:14:43.000 accept if it were happening to the mayor would they allow the mayor to be swarmed with impunity would

00:14:50.740 they would they allow someone to smash the mayor's car how far would they go or is it two-tier policing

00:14:56.220 here in canada also hey by the way and i'm trying to find out more if anyone knows the contact information

00:15:03.360 for this driver i'd like to learn a little bit more but really i think i'd like to crowdfund his lawyer

00:15:08.860 and i'd like to know as part of his trial why the police didn't lay charges against the people who swarmed

00:15:16.260 him if anyone knows the info of the man just have them email me at ezra at rebelnews.com you know we crowdfund

00:15:24.440 lawyers how about instead of scapegoating this clearly terrified individual i'm going to go out

00:15:33.400 on a limb here how about we actually enforce the law and stop thugs and gangs from threatening people

00:15:40.200 on the street i mean i know that's hard and tolerating a crime wave is sort of the brand of

00:15:47.420 toronto now including the police chief myron demke and i mean that's the thing i put yourself in his

00:15:52.720 for 10 months he's allowed hamas gangs to rule the streets it might even seem unfair if he started 0.87

00:15:58.640 to enforce the law against these indigenous folks what advice do you think the toronto police would 0.99

00:16:05.400 have for moms or seniors or even for those awful white men what advice would the trauma toronto police 0.66

00:16:14.320 have for anyone of any race or sex or age who was stopped on the road by masked thugs who were

00:16:21.980 swarming the car some with sticks what advice would they have i'm going to go out on another limb

00:16:27.060 and guess that the police advice would be roll down the window and gently hand them your car keys i i say

00:16:36.500 that is likely their advice because that's exactly the advice they gave earlier remember this there's

00:16:42.800 also updated advice for all vehicle owners a message echoed by toronto police speaking at an

00:16:48.080 etobicoke safety meeting last month constable marco ricciardi had a new message for vehicle

00:16:53.040 owners who keep their fobs in faraday pouches to prevent the possibility of being attacked in your

00:16:59.900 home leave your fobs at your front door because they're breaking into your home to steal your car

00:17:04.620 they don't want anything else a lot of them that they're arresting have guns on them and they're not

00:17:09.140 toy guns they're real guns they're loaded now you wouldn't know it if you're under 45 but about 30 years

00:17:15.800 ago there were terrible race riots in the city of los angeles and a truck driver who just had the

00:17:22.500 bad luck of driving through town the moment the riots were kicking off was named reginald denny now

00:17:28.620 that's a name that probably doesn't mean anything to someone under 45 years old but reginald denny

00:17:34.060 drove in the wrong place at the wrong time and he got pulled out of his truck cab on the streets and he

00:17:44.880 was beaten almost to death it was a shocking moment and it just happened to be underneath a news

00:17:52.340 helicopter that was covering it live and this was long before the internet long before social media

00:18:00.340 this is when everyone genuinely did watch cnn it was the way to get breaking news from around the

00:18:06.360 world it was on the one hand riveting television it was a breakthrough for news but it was a horrific

00:18:12.920 view of a near murder that millions of people saw and were terrified by i i think that we were maybe

00:18:22.500 five minutes away from a reginald denny moment there on toronto's streets i don't know if the people who

00:18:28.620 swarmed the vehicle would have beaten him near to death would have used a brick to smash it said i

00:18:33.360 don't know we don't know because the man made the decision to drive away if he had made the decision

00:18:39.900 to stay i have no doubt that his car would have been smashed and maybe he would have too he probably

00:18:45.860 made the decision in the split second of the moment that things could get bad very very bad and if he

00:18:51.840 drove away and hopefully didn't kill anyone in driving away whatever the consequences were would likely be

00:18:57.700 less than what that street mob would put upon him i think he made the right decision what would you do

00:19:05.880 what would you do this is an unusual event in that it was caught on camera i'm sure that

00:19:12.700 there are more crimes every day that are not caught on camera that have a similar feeling to them

00:19:18.900 the street protest here apparently is because of a mentally unstable person being shot by police and

00:19:25.180 police and obviously that's terrible and the massive increase in drug addictions in our streets

00:19:30.440 driven in part by trudeau's forced legalization of hard drugs is part of the blame but it's a little

00:19:36.860 bit different when one lone deranged drug addict acts out in violence it's terrible terrible for him and

00:19:44.320 terrible for the population that's victimized it's different between that and organized political

00:19:50.640 violence which is what that protest was and what we're seeing now in the united kingdom's civil war

00:19:56.900 more on that civil war in a moment with calvin robinson

00:20:00.900 i'm riveted by the united kingdom as you know i've been traveling there ever since our association

00:20:13.600 with the troublemaker tommy robinson about seven or eight years ago when he briefly worked with rebel

00:20:19.480 news what we've kept in touch as you know when he was arrested a few years ago and jailed we helped

00:20:23.740 crowdfund his legal defense and we've been interested in his attempt to build a sort of counterculture

00:20:29.420 movement when i say counterculture it's odd to say that patriotism and pro-british symbols and

00:20:35.480 and uh to defend british history and and to call that counterculture but these days it certainly is

00:20:41.900 when all the establishment are either woke or frankly islamist and the combination of the two

00:20:48.360 tommy robinson had a huge march on june the first and then again on july 27th and our reporter alexa

00:20:55.420 lavoix attended both of them and they were distinguished the chief quality besides their

00:21:01.040 theme of patriotism and stopping mass immigration was how peaceful they were how well behaved they were 0.77

00:21:07.500 and so it was no surprise thereafter that tommy was arrested under the terrorism act even though

00:21:13.640 he had committed no terrorism but that act allows police to arrest people without a warrant and to

00:21:18.940 question them without them having the traditional right of not to incriminate themselves under the

00:21:24.600 terrorism act you can be detained i think it's for six hours and asked any question and you're forced

00:21:30.780 to reply not to reply is a crime that's typically used in a ticking time bomb style situation uh where

00:21:38.620 you know you've caught a terrorist mastermind where is the bomb you've got to let us know they use that

00:21:43.600 to pick up tommy robinson and strangely most of the questions were what's your purpose for these

00:21:49.500 meetings what's this movement about it was just picking his brain about his political protest plans

00:21:54.140 very strange well fast forward a week or two and the united kingdom is in flames not because of

00:21:59.800 anything tommy robinson said rather he warned about what was coming which is the ghettoization of

00:22:05.280 sectarian groups that's how nigel farage would describe muslim groups that have not fully integrated

00:22:11.540 there have been riots sparked by a few peculiar incidents including the horrific slaughter of three

00:22:17.860 young girls attending a taylor swift party the country is in flames and instead of trying to douse

00:22:24.440 the flames and lower the temperature the labor prime minister keir starmer has used it to

00:22:29.520 heighten the temperature to blame uh indigenous british people calling them far right and to only 0.90

00:22:37.160 blame them instead of muslim riots and to only offer sympathy to the muslim side of some of these battles

00:22:43.760 not to the british community that itself has many wounds it's terrifying but today things took a

00:22:51.400 particular turn for the worse and joining us now to talk about it is our friend calvin robinson who's been

00:22:57.340 on the show before he's a priest and a broadcaster you can follow him at calvin robinson.com and on

00:23:03.820 twitter calvin great to see you again do you think i summed up recent events i mean i did a whole show

00:23:08.520 on it this week but i i talked about the the child welfare services going after uh the gypsy kids and then

00:23:15.500 the the horrific stabbings the manchester airport incident all of these things sort of combined i'd say

00:23:22.360 the uk is having sort of its george floyd riot moment would you yes it feels like we're having

00:23:28.880 a lot of civil unrest that could potentially lead up to a civil war something is brewing the country

00:23:34.060 has been under a malaise for the last few months but now that's sparked into something more malevolent

00:23:40.120 and it's being stirred up by the people who should be helping solve it our politicians our mainstream media

00:23:46.660 the entire establishment seems to be riling up the ordinary british folk and actually making us the

00:23:52.500 enemy i don't know why i don't know what the motivation is but all i see is is more upset more

00:23:57.260 hurt more aggression and it's going to turn violent more violence than it already has been

00:24:02.400 yeah i don't understand it i mean i i would have thought it was a time for keir starmer the new

00:24:08.100 prime minister uh to call for unity to call for peace to use soothing tones to talk about building

00:24:16.500 a harmonious society but he did the opposite it felt like joe biden's sort of rageful uh speech he gave

00:24:25.940 a few months ago where he talked about maga extremists it really sounded partly like a campaign speech

00:24:32.260 and partly like haha i'm gonna trump this up into a uk january 6th insurrection moment and do two things

00:24:41.820 i'm gonna arrest hundreds of my political enemies i'm gonna terrify thousands more and i'm gonna use

00:24:47.660 it to basically to to pre-label any criticism of mass migration as not just racism which they've been

00:24:55.500 saying for years but terrorism i think what we saw was keir starmer opportunistically looking to say

00:25:01.820 huh people are mad and some people are violent i can use this to my advantage i'm gonna go after all

00:25:07.820 my enemies now january 6th that's how it looked to me on this side of the ocean does that ring any

00:25:13.260 bells for you or do you think something else is afoot i mean that's one way of reading it i just read

00:25:17.740 it as incompetence i think sir keir starmer is a very weak individual he's not a very good leader he's

00:25:22.700 an insecure man and i don't think he knows how to address the situation i don't know if he knows how

00:25:27.100 to read the situation in order to address it actually and you're right that when he came out his speech

00:25:32.140 wasn't unifying he addressed certain demographics in a very different way to address other demographics

00:25:38.220 so he pointed the blame and said it's all down to right-wing thugs now i haven't seen many right-wing

00:25:44.620 thugs i'm sure there are some but i haven't seen many of them what i have seen is a lot of mohammedans 1.00

00:25:48.780 with machetes and planks of wood uh beating up white brits damaging cars private property pubs vandalizing 0.51

00:25:57.740 and they're not being treated in the same way that the brits are being treated when they get angry

00:26:02.780 and everyone is getting angry it's everyone against everyone right now but what what's important to

00:26:07.100 note is that the prime minister gets up on his pedestals i'm going to protect the muslim communities

00:26:12.700 i'm going to provide more funding for security for the mosques in fact elon made elon musk made a good

00:26:18.300 point when he said why not protect all communities why not be unified because he's not he's dividing us and

00:26:24.060 that's further causing trouble because there are brits that feel like the mohammedans are receiving 1.00

00:26:29.500 special treatment and then the mohammedans are feeling that they are the ones who are oppressed 0.77

00:26:33.020 and need special attention and so everyone is being kind of divided and set against each other

00:26:38.540 when the prime minister's job should be to get up on the pedestal and say we are all british no matter

00:26:42.860 our skin color no matter our religion no matter where our parents come from we all do night under the

00:26:47.260 union flag under the monarchy and we should be coming together let's end the violence let's end the

00:26:52.140 protests and let's mourn as a country the losses of these three innocent girls that were murdered

00:26:58.780 let's let's come together and grieve but he hasn't done that he's stoking the flames why i mean you you

00:27:04.940 paint a picture of what it may be but i honestly just think he's an incompetent weak man you know what

00:27:11.340 obviously i don't know the uk as well as you do you live there you live it every day but i want to put to

00:27:16.220 you a different uh observation and uh interpretation of kirk starmer put by my fellow anglophile will

00:27:24.540 chamberlain and he tweeted the other day and i didn't understand it at first he said kirk starmer

00:27:29.820 is a left-wing ronda santis and i thought what what does that even mean ronda santis is conservatism

00:27:35.980 no what will was getting at is that kirk starmer knows how to use the levers of power knows how to

00:27:42.700 use the tools of government he is a former chief prosecutor he's a he was a smart lawyer at a senior

00:27:49.740 law firm and what will was saying is he's extremely effective and dangerous and watch how he uses this

00:27:57.660 to absolutely batter conservative elements in the country anti-immigration elements this was will's way

00:28:05.740 of saying you might hate kirk starmer but he's not dopey like joe biden he's not just about showiness

00:28:15.020 he's steak not sizzle so will chamberlain has a grudging respect and fear for kirk starmer i don't

00:28:22.140 think he would call kirk starmer incompetent now i mean listen will's a yank what does he know but i saw

00:28:29.180 that and i thought you know what kirk starmer knows he he's prosecuted mass riots before and he's he's

00:28:37.820 instructed prosecutors to review thousands of videotapes and look they're emptying they announced

00:28:43.820 they're going to empty out the prisons of half their violent criminals i think they're making way

00:28:48.460 i think there's going to be hundreds of prosecutions i listen i just react to that i'm not necessarily

00:28:53.580 challenging your interpretation i'm more scared because what will um chamberlain said made me think

00:28:59.900 oh my god this is a terrifying enemy we have he's boring um outwardly but he's terrifying if that's

00:29:08.780 the case then that is terrifying because that makes him a tyrant and we have separation in this country

00:29:14.060 of our judiciary our legislative so so our parliamentarians shouldn't be telling our judges

00:29:18.940 what to do or our police force what to do they should be entirely separate but it seems that that's not

00:29:23.020 the case because the people that kirk starmer points a finger at and calls far far right thugs

00:29:28.860 those are the people who have been rushed through the judicial system they're being arrested they're

00:29:33.420 prosecuted and sent off to prison straight away whereas people from the manchester situation or from

00:29:38.860 hair hills or you know other people are not getting through the system and in fact he came out of one

00:29:44.380 of the first things he said when he got into power a month ago was that prisons are full he said there

00:29:48.860 are only 700 places in all the prisons in the united kingdom we're going to start letting people 0.71

00:29:52.860 out early so maybe your friend will chamberlain is right maybe what he's doing is he's entering

00:29:57.740 the prisons in order to put the right-wing people in to put his political opponents in i hope that's

00:30:01.740 not the case but then when i hear the person who does his former job now the chief prosecutor now

00:30:07.100 when i hear him this week saying that people who retweet things are also committing a crime

00:30:11.980 and they should be very much aware of that but it's just as much it's just as bad as inciting violence

00:30:16.140 it's just as bad as being out there and rioting yourself it's like okay so they're looking at people

00:30:21.020 who are saying things that they don't like but not just saying things retweeting things that they

00:30:25.020 don't like and they're coming for them just astonishing i mean i listen i'm not an expert

00:30:29.020 in british law and i don't pass myself off as one but i know that the commonalities between british law

00:30:33.740 and canadian law there's a tremendous number of commonalities in fact over here we often look to

00:30:39.100 british law it's not binding but it's uh persuasive in some cases at least the high courts we have a common

00:30:45.260 common common legacy let me put it that way yeah and in criminal law intention or uh malafides

00:30:55.340 actus there's actus reis which is the um the the illegal act but then there's what they call the

00:31:02.940 mens rea the mental element sorry to bore you with my tiny bit of latin but my point is you need to

00:31:09.500 for something to be a crime there has to be a criminal intention it's the difference between accidentally

00:31:14.300 brushing up against someone on the street and purposefully hitting them listen to this head of

00:31:18.540 public prosecution say that merely retweeting something even if you know with we don't even

00:31:24.540 know if there's hate in your heart it's a hate crime just to click that retweet button listen to

00:31:31.100 the man himself take a listen in the offense of incitement to racial hatred involves publishing or

00:31:37.020 distributing material uh which is uh insulting or abusive which is intended to or likely to start

00:31:45.740 racial hatred so if you retweet that then you're republishing that and then potentially you're

00:31:50.700 committing that offense and we do have dedicated police officers who are scouring social media their

00:31:57.180 job is to look for this material and then follow up with identification arrests and so forth so it's a

00:32:04.380 really really serious people might think they're not doing anything uh harmful they are and the

00:32:11.340 consequences will be visited upon them i think the fact that he says so so calmly that there are

00:32:17.900 countless officials in the uk going through so like creeping and stalking your social media and and one of

00:32:24.060 those words was he said not just creating hatred but quote being insulting so if you are intentionally

00:32:32.140 insulting or or go ahead yeah i mean or insulting someone in a way likely to cause offense literally

00:32:41.260 anyone in the world could be caught by that offense is now a crime in this country unfortunately the

00:32:46.220 problem is a retweet is not an endorsement retweeting something does not mean i agree with it it means 0.94

00:32:50.140 i'm showing my audience it i might be retweeting it to say look at this fool look at this clown look at

00:32:54.380 what they're saying but according to the the dpp that means i'm also perpetrating the exact same 0.61

00:33:00.220 crime that the original tweeter is which is offense offense is a crime and who is going to

00:33:05.260 arrest us for causing offense police officers who are sitting there scouring the internet now you

00:33:10.140 can't get a police officer to help you if you get mugged if you get stabbed you can't get a police

00:33:14.620 officer to help you if you get burgled but if you tweet something or no no if you retweet something

00:33:19.980 you can get arrested now what does that say about the state of our society when actual real life

00:33:25.020 bodily physical crimes are not prosecuted not people aren't arrested but online hate speech

00:33:32.780 as they call it is a crime and you are arrested for it it just goes to show what they're afraid

00:33:37.260 of and actually this week we've seen on our mainstream media all across the board every

00:33:41.500 single day the question they've been asking and you know when they ask the question it's because they

00:33:45.100 want a specific answer they've been asking the question should social media be banned for the

00:33:50.620 temporary period to save people to say to make places safe like a temporary situation to make

00:33:57.420 us safe when we've heard when we have that before ezra two weeks to flatten the curve oh we have to

00:34:02.060 extend it i know the exact i know the exact argument here's a clip i saw earlier today oh just a temper

00:34:08.940 just until we get through this little spot of bother here take a look at this i think so i think so i

00:34:14.140 think we should stop it um it's only a temporary measure in order to limit um the spread of

00:34:21.020 inflammatory information misinformation as well across the united kingdom at this point and uh this

00:34:27.580 i think we should focus on keeping people safe and communities safe as well so my point is to stop it

00:34:34.620 you're exactly right calvin this idea oh it's just a temporary suspension of your civil liberties we've

00:34:39.900 seen that that temporary turn into two years that's if you if you say to the government that in an

00:34:45.260 emergency they can withdraw your civil liberties you can be guaranteed you're going to have a

00:34:50.140 perpetual emergency let me show you something even more astonishing because i think i was mentioning this

00:34:55.900 to you right before we turn on the cameras for those who remember calvin came with rebel news to

00:35:00.780 the world economic forum um in davos switzerland a couple years ago it was wonderful to hang out with them

00:35:06.460 in that frosty place you might recall calvin and i had sort of a walking interview with greta tunberg

00:35:12.460 which i thought was very very illuminating and calvin did a great job you got to be careful when you're

00:35:19.260 scrumming a 20 year old who looks 14 that you and calvin did a great job anyways um last year at davos

00:35:28.300 the number one thing i heard from uh the fancy delegates was we got to stop trump but the number two thing

00:35:35.100 very close behind was we have to stop elon musk in order to stop trump because by taking the censorship

00:35:42.220 off of twitter all sorts of things are being talked about by ordinary people that are off the approved

00:35:48.300 narrative and look at this this is what uh a scrum of the head of the metropolitan police which is what

00:35:54.460 they call the main police department in london mark rally is his name and listen to the second question

00:36:01.260 it's about a minute and a half this clip the second question is specifically about elon musk because

00:36:07.180 elon musk is chiming in with the debate he used your phrase two-tier cure he's talked about the

00:36:14.460 rotherham uh rape gangs he's talking about things that have been covered up by the dominant narrative

00:36:21.180 for years and i think there's a personal hatred amongst the establishment towards elon musk more than

00:36:27.500 any other social media because he's the freest look at the head of the the london police being asked

00:36:34.940 what do you do about elon musk now he doesn't use the word elon musk in reply but he's pretty clear

00:36:39.900 take a look at this one minute clip so we'll throw the full force of the law as offenders whether that's

00:36:45.900 charging people with assaults violent disorder riot and if terrorism offenses are appropriate i know the

00:36:53.740 director of public prosecutions has said he's prepared to consider that we will throw the

00:36:57.820 false force of the law at people and whether you're in this country committing crimes on the streets

00:37:04.220 or committing crimes from further afield online we will come after you talk to me about that because

00:37:09.740 we have seen some high profile figures whipping up the hatred you talked about it in there with the

00:37:14.940 officers in fact about this being added to by online commentary i mean i'm even thinking of the

00:37:18.860 likes of elon musk getting involved what are you considering when it comes to dealing with people

00:37:24.620 who are whipping up this kind of behavior from behind a keyboard maybe in a different country

00:37:31.100 being a keyboard warrior does not make you safe from the law you can be guilty of offenses of of

00:37:37.260 incitement of stirring up racial hatred there are numerous terrorist offenses regarding

00:37:42.220 um uh the sort of publishing of material all of those offenses are in play if people are provoking

00:37:49.500 hatred and violence on the streets and we'll come after those individuals just as we will physically

00:37:53.900 confront on the streets the thugs and the obs who are taking who are causing the problems for

00:37:58.060 communities there you have it the question was about elon musk he didn't repeat that name in the answer

00:38:02.860 and i suppose in some ways what he said was correct i mean assault riot those are offenses and i think

00:38:10.300 everyone would want those things to be attacked by the police they haven't in in many uh muslim 1.00

00:38:16.220 communities and when asked about you know online offenses it's true you can commit a crime on the

00:38:22.540 internet just like you could on a telephone or with the mail but that loosey-goosey did you provoke

00:38:29.340 violence what does that mean by talking about the rape gangs in rotherham are you provoking violence

00:38:35.580 that's what scares me calvin is the language by the prosecutors if you're insulting and it is likely

00:38:42.220 to cause hurt feelings these are not objective standards these are political subjective standards

00:38:49.180 that we're all guilty in advance of it just comes down to who's charged don't you think 0.99

00:38:54.940 yeah the reason the pakistan muslim rape gangs have been getting away with grooming and raping young 1.00

00:39:00.300 girls all across the country is because the political class whether it's the counselors and the 1.00

00:39:05.340 police or the mps and everyone who's been involved has covered it up for the sake of diversity because

00:39:11.420 they thought if they address it they will they will inspire racial wars they will inspire a culture war

00:39:17.900 quite literally and so that tells you a lot about their way of thinking that if if addressing a problem

00:39:23.580 can cause a problem then they're going to avoid addressing the problem which is what they're talking

00:39:27.980 about here on the internet so if people like you or i or elon mask addresses the pakistan muslim

00:39:33.260 grooming gang situation we are inciting violence because we're potentially getting people angry

00:39:37.820 about a situation that's going on whereas what they should be addressing is the problem itself which 0.76

00:39:41.980 is the pakistan muslim rape gangs but this goes across the board for everything this past week we've 0.54

00:39:46.620 seen a lot of protests some of them have turned into riots the people who have addressed them have 0.96

00:39:51.260 been the problem according to the mainstream media and the politicians but this speech by mark rowdy was

00:39:56.220 incredibly worrying for a lot a number of reasons one of them is that he seems to believe his jurisdiction

00:40:01.180 extends outside of the united kingdom he starts talking about people who are online further

00:40:06.140 abroad or further afield that's that's outside of his bounds he doesn't have the remit for that

00:40:10.540 and then he starts talking about terrorism legislation well we know that police abuse

00:40:15.420 terrorism legislation which was put in place to help them prevent terrorism but they use it for other

00:40:21.100 things because it gives them more freedom it gives them more freedom because it takes away our freedoms

00:40:24.460 you talked at the top of the show actually about a mutual friend of ours who's been arrested recently

00:40:28.700 under the terrorism legislation not because they suspected as being a terrorist but because they

00:40:32.700 knew they could hold him for longer they could do what they want and that's the problem with these

00:40:36.860 emergency acts these emergency bills and this emergency legislation it gives too much power

00:40:41.980 to people who shouldn't have it you know it's um you say that one of the reasons the mainstream

00:40:49.420 media doesn't want to talk about it is they don't want to whip up uh feelings that that's true but i read the

00:40:54.780 rotherham inquiry the 1400 girls plus who were systemically raped again and again and again

00:41:01.420 because they were basically um well exploited is the obvious word but they were they were blackmailed

00:41:08.220 and extorted into into have being raped day after day like it's it's an astonishing thing that i hope 0.54

00:41:14.860 we never have to come to terms with here in north america um but it's it's widespread in the uk

00:41:21.900 finally when the government acknowledged that it was happening there was a commission of inquiry and

00:41:27.100 again and again witnesses said i didn't want to speak out because i didn't want to be called a racist

00:41:35.180 because 80 plus percent of the rapists in rotherham were pakistani muslim men all the nurses and doctors 0.59

00:41:42.540 and social workers and police and politicians and journalists all the official people saw it but they

00:41:49.420 said again and again if you read that commission inquiry you can do a find find the word racism

00:41:55.260 find the word like a search and find again and again i didn't want someone to call me racist so i

00:42:00.540 allowed the rapes to continue i think that uh is a huge part of it people think they have to stand with

00:42:08.620 these uh rioters and rapists or else they're not being progressive enough and they'll be called far right

00:42:16.540 last word to you yes and this is the message that the mainstream media and the politicians are putting

00:42:21.340 across now this is essentially why they're talking about potentially banning social media for the

00:42:26.380 temporary period because the problem is not social media the problem is free speech and they will ban

00:42:31.260 anything that allows us to communicate with each other the only way i've been able to keep up with

00:42:34.860 the news this week is by twitter or x as they call it now because the mainstream media has not been

00:42:39.260 covering the events properly they've been incredibly biased you know we they blame the edl for goodness sake

00:42:44.780 english defense league hasn't been around since 2013 who has who has been out on the streets the

00:42:49.260 muslim defense league but they haven't been mentioned once and so this is the the incredible

00:42:53.980 two-tier bias that the mainstream media has along with the two-tier bias of the policing system put

00:42:58.860 that together and we live in a tyrannical situation so social media through twitter and rumble

00:43:04.060 have been outlets where we've been able to communicate with each other let each other know what's really

00:43:08.380 going on on the ground and this is why the establishment wants to ban twitter and and punish

00:43:13.740 elon musk for giving us a voice you know i said that was the last word but i've just got to throw in

00:43:18.940 one more thing and it's a a wonderful tweet uh listen misinformation is a human uh a human frailty

00:43:27.900 we get we try to conclude something before we have 100 of the facts we make a guess we just have an

00:43:34.380 action we get something wrong everyone makes mistakes legacy media blames social media for having

00:43:40.940 misinformation there's just as many mistakes in legacy media it's just that they're the gatekeepers

00:43:45.900 of their own corrections one of my favorite things about twitter as i mentioned the other day is

00:43:50.620 something called community notes where ordinary people get to fact check even the fancy people

00:43:56.220 and this gorgeous gorgeous tweet by the guardian which is a far left newspaper in the uk they were

00:44:02.060 saying there's no such thing as two-tier policing that's a right-wing trope and then bam community notes

00:44:09.340 cites about four cases where the guardian itself has said that there's two-tier policing in that case

00:44:16.460 it was against minorities against black citizens so you know yes people get it wrong all the time

00:44:24.140 the beauty of social media is that it corrects itself faster and it doesn't allow the disinformation

00:44:31.340 spreader to veto his own corrections you can't get a correction in the guardian unless the guardian's

00:44:37.500 letters to the editor uh boss lets you in but on twitter the world can correct an area i just thought

00:44:43.660 that was a wonderful uh thing and i i don't know if you saw that but uh calvin that made me chuckle

00:44:50.700 that's an important distinction that you just made that you just inferred to and that the difference

00:44:54.940 between disinformation and misinformation so disinformation is false information that's been

00:44:58.940 spread on purpose in order to cause problems of course we should prevent the spread of disinformation

00:45:04.140 but misinformation is false information that's been spread by accident maybe not on purpose and

00:45:08.220 we all make those mistakes but you'll see the mainstream media and the politicians are clamping

00:45:11.900 down on misinformation because what they don't want is they don't want us spreading information that

00:45:16.460 they see as false whether it's true or false in reality and if we don't have the ability to spread

00:45:21.660 misinformation if we don't have the ability to get things wrong we do not have free speech and we do

00:45:25.340 not have freedom that's a great place to leave it calvin robinson one of the good guys that's for

00:45:30.540 sure i've had the pleasure of attending church at his church in the united kingdom i'm jewish myself

00:45:35.340 but it was a beautiful thing to observe you can follow calvin at his website calvinrobinson.com

00:45:41.580 take care of my friend hope to talk to you again soon thank you god bless you all right you too

00:45:45.820 stay with us more ahead

00:45:46.860 hey welcome back your letters to me arctic cat says it was heartwarming to see the british and irish

00:46:04.420 people protesting in unity they are all suffering from the same invasion so they need to unite

00:46:09.180 yeah i saw some really interesting images i think it was from a protest i think it might have been in

00:46:14.300 belfast which is in northern ireland which as you may know is part of the united kingdom it's the more

00:46:19.260 protestant part of the island of ireland the southern part of course is catholic and they had a civil war

00:46:27.100 they had a rebellion and they had the troubles for years there are some deep rivalries there but to see

00:46:33.580 the two flags at the same protest against mass immigration it was a startling sight to see i

00:46:41.100 know exactly what you're talking about yvonne boudreau says why are the pride parades held

00:46:48.060 in august and not june during pride month well don't you know it's pride decade i i'm not even

00:46:54.220 kidding i mean everything is pride have you uh have you watched netflix lately have you watched

00:46:59.660 disney lately but as i thought it was interesting what drea pointed out they don't call it gay pride

00:47:05.500 anymore because they're way way past gay in fact i'd say they're so far past gay they're anti-gay

00:47:12.300 i think i told you that a year ago i heard a speaker in the uk with the gay men's network saying 0.96

00:47:18.380 if he were a kid today they would have said no no you're not a gay man you're a woman traps in a 0.99

00:47:24.460 man's body we got to chop you up he said it's a war against gay men or or gay young men because each of 0.99

00:47:32.220 them is being diagnosed as trans and they're being pumped full of meds and surgery so they're not 1.00

00:47:38.220 called gay pride anymore because they're really not about gay pride it's all about the t and the q

00:47:43.260 the trans extremism and general queering and i don't mean that in a sexual sense although that too

00:47:50.460 i mean that in destroying everything in the world when i showed you that strange combination

00:47:55.660 that was protesting in the streets of toronto that swarmed that guy's car it was a little bit of 0.87

00:48:00.300 this a little bit of that a little bit of hamas a little bit of indigenous a little bit of black

00:48:03.740 let's just all get together why what's the commonality smash the state fight the man undermine

00:48:11.260 canada its rule of law its police its system its constitution revolution that's what the t and the q stand

00:48:19.580 for well that's our show for today until tomorrow on behalf of all of us here at rebel world headquarters

00:48:25.820 to you at home good night and keep fighting for freedom

Rebel News Podcast - August 08, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Toronto driver swarmed by protesters, arrested for attempt to escape

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