Rebel News Podcast


EZRA LEVANT | Trudeau announces millions of dollars to attack news agencies he doesn’t like. Gee, I wonder if that means us!


Summary

Trudeauman Trudeau announces millions of dollars in spending to counter disinformation. I'll show you the announcement and my reaction to it, and we'll have a great chat with Joel Pollack about Vladimir Zelensky's speeches to the Canadian Parliament and the US Congress.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today, the government, the federal government, Trudeau's government,
00:00:04.140 announced millions of dollars in spending to counter disinformation. I put it to you,
00:00:11.460 most disinformation these days comes from the government. I don't want government fighting
00:00:15.620 disinformation. They're the source of it. I'll show you the announcement and my reaction to it,
00:00:22.200 and we'll have a great chat with Joel Pollack about Vladimir Zelensky's speeches to the Canadian
00:00:28.500 Parliament and the U.S. Congress. That's all ahead. But before I show you that, let me invite you to
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00:00:58.500 Tonight, Trudeau announces millions of dollars to attack news agencies that he doesn't like. Gee,
00:01:14.840 I wonder if he means Rebel News. It's March 16th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:19.620 Trudeau's CBC state broadcaster keeps lying. I mean, I suppose you could give them the benefit of the
00:01:46.820 doubt and say they just make mistakes like everybody by accident. It happens. But when
00:01:51.820 all of the errors go one way, when all of the errors paint Trudeau as the hero and his opponents as
00:01:59.060 demons, after a while you can say, well, that's not really a mistake. That's a pattern. That might
00:02:04.780 even be a plan. Have you ever seen the CBC make a mistake that favors Trudeau's critics? They're not
00:02:12.100 sorry. They're just sorry when they get caught. Like their nutty claim. This was nuts. That
00:02:18.980 the CBC made that the trucker convoy was paid for by Americans. When in fact, testimony from GoFundMe
00:02:28.560 and GiveSendGo showed that there's about 90% Canadian donors, of course. The CBC just made it up.
00:02:35.640 They lied. And that lie actually was used by the Trudeau liberals as a justification for their
00:02:42.900 emergencies act. I'm not sure which is worse, lying to claim Americans paid for the truckers or lying
00:02:50.620 to claim Vladimir Putin did. That was the lie they actually tried first. I do ask that because,
00:02:57.860 you know, given Canada's support of Ukraine in this current crisis with Russia, I don't know if
00:03:05.080 it's far-fetched to ask, but there is concern that Russian actors could be continuing to fuel things
00:03:12.700 as this protest grows, but perhaps even instigating it from the outset.
00:03:18.820 Well, again, I'm going to defer to our partners in the public safety, the trained officials and
00:03:25.400 experts in that area. Yeah, I just don't think you can trust the CBC for anything, but really,
00:03:29.580 it's not just the CBC. It was just the CBC for the longest time. But about 10 or maybe 15 years ago,
00:03:37.100 there were in this country, I don't know if you remember, you have to be old like me,
00:03:41.080 there were privately owned newspapers and magazines in this country, but then everything converged
00:03:45.020 on the internet. What I mean by that is it used to be that the CBC was into only radio and TV,
00:03:51.760 that was it. There wasn't an internet 20 years ago. And the newspapers and magazines were on paper
00:03:59.860 or newsstands and delivered to your home. So newspapers and magazines, they were competitors,
00:04:05.520 I guess, with the CBC spiritually, but people consumed them in very different ways. You didn't
00:04:11.060 go to the newsstand with a couple bucks to buy your CBC, but both of them went online at the same time,
00:04:16.920 right? The CBC set up Canada's biggest and best funded and best staffed news website.
00:04:26.140 And the private sector newspapers and magazines, well, they tried to compete, but they had no chance.
00:04:32.200 I mean, the CBC was bigger than all of them combined in terms of resources. So where historically
00:04:38.920 the CBC was only a direct competitor to other TV and radio stations, it now became a direct competitor
00:04:45.200 to the private print media. And of course it just crushed them. They had $1.5 billion a year
00:04:51.840 in government subsidies. Of course they crushed them. The obvious solution was to declare victory
00:04:58.640 and say that the CBC really wasn't needed anymore. I mean, to take away the CBC's unfair advantages
00:05:03.900 and just say you're like everyone else now. I mean, the CBC was no longer providing unique things
00:05:08.580 that no one else could do. That was the original rationale for the CBC 80 years ago. I mean,
00:05:12.900 that might've been necessary to have the CBC in the forties or whenever, but how's it possibly
00:05:17.780 arguable in the present digital age that we need a state broadcaster, but instead of ending the CBC
00:05:23.340 subsidies, selling them, privatizing them to level of the playing field, instead of bringing down the
00:05:28.220 CBC to level of playing field, they just put the rest of the media, the private media on government
00:05:33.820 subsidies too. And it shows the media is so obedient now. Oh, and it's much worse than you even know.
00:05:42.480 So here's an incredible story in Blacklock CA, one of the few not government funded media left in
00:05:49.120 this country, but the government working with Edward Greenspan, the former editor of the Globe and Mail
00:05:53.260 to recruit 25 trustworthy journalists who will properly report on the government as in
00:06:00.820 properly in the government's eyes, reporting the right way. And they'll be well paid. Imagine
00:06:05.860 participating in a little get together for that flight flown in at government expense, being one of
00:06:11.380 those 25 journalists who said, sure, we will accept money to participate in a private government
00:06:17.500 meeting to be a part of this new government plan for trustworthy journalists. Imagine being such a
00:06:22.660 person and keeping it a secret. And again, from Blacklocks, the government is very, very grateful.
00:06:30.900 Here's Heritage Minister Pablo Rodriguez. He's, let me quote you, he's promising more media subsidies after
00:06:36.460 thinking, thanking reporters for their freedom convoy coverage. Look at the role that the journalists
00:06:43.320 played, said Rodriguez. I'm reading from Blacklocks. I think there are even more things we should be
00:06:49.520 able to do, said Rodriguez. We're looking into that in the context of supporting the whole ecosystem.
00:06:57.940 Rodriguez made his remarks in a webinar hosted by Canada 2020, an Ottawa think tank affiliated with the
00:07:05.420 Liberal Party. Canada 2020's executive chair is a past president of the Liberal Party of Canada.
00:07:12.680 Wow. So it's a meeting at a liberal conference, but with journalists who are receiving money and a
00:07:21.520 nice pat on the head from a Trudeau cabinet minister thanking them for their coverage of the truckers.
00:07:27.920 And this is all just fine and normal. Rodriguez went further in stating cabinet will introduce what
00:07:36.640 he calls an online news act to counter misinformation, he said. He did not define the term, but added,
00:07:44.000 the reality is grim. Well, that was very recently, because today, Rodriguez made an announcement to
00:07:51.500 crack down on disinformation and misinformation. And he specifically cited, so weird, the war in Ukraine.
00:07:57.920 Which is odd, because that war is between Russia and Ukraine. Canada is not at war. Here's his plan
00:08:04.760 to censor, using the war as an excuse. Oops, sorry, that's Putin's plan to censor, using the war as an
00:08:14.200 excuse. Sorry, wrong censorship plan. Sorry, here's Trudeau's plan to censor, using the war as an excuse.
00:08:20.820 There's so much censorship going on, but Canada's censorship is so much better than Russia's
00:08:25.440 censorship. So Canada, the government of Canada, reinforces support to organizations to help counter
00:08:31.900 harmful disinformation. Got it. Got it. Because Trudeau himself never engages in harmful
00:08:37.260 disinformation. By definition, I mean, if Trudeau says it, it's got to be right. Here's a clip from
00:08:43.720 the announcement today featuring Pablo Rodriguez.
00:08:46.120 Since 2019, the Digital Citizen Initiative has been funding organizations that help Canadians become
00:08:55.040 more resilient to online disinformation. These organizations help Canadians think critically about
00:09:03.940 what they read and consume online. And with the global pandemic continuing into its third year,
00:09:12.600 with armed conflict raging in Ukraine and in other parts of the world, well, we find ourselves at a
00:09:19.920 very fragile moment in our history. Sorry, did you say year three of the pandemic? That's not true,
00:09:29.540 mate. The pandemic is now an endemic. Every scientist in the world says it's done. It's burnt itself out.
00:09:37.680 The Omicron variant is, I'm not going to say harmless, but it doesn't put people in hospital
00:09:46.020 at anything near the same rate. Mask mandates are falling. I see British Airlines, British Airways,
00:09:51.640 it's just ended masks on their planes. Mandates are ending across the country, except for in Trudeau's
00:09:57.160 hands. We're not in year three of the pandemic. It's endemic. It's local. It's like the cold,
00:10:02.160 annual flu season. But imagine using year three of the pandemic as an excuse to censor. Imagine
00:10:11.500 using that as an excuse and the war in Ukraine, which we are not a part of, but we are being
00:10:19.240 censored as if we are in a war. And here is his plan. So using year three of the pandemic
00:10:25.760 pandemic. And a war halfway around the world, as an excuse, here's what he's going to do.
00:10:30.420 So today, I'm announcing that the Digital Citizen Initiative will provide $2.5 million in funding
00:10:38.940 for new citizen-focused activities and digital projects. The goal of these specific projects
00:10:46.600 will be to, first, increase civic literacy, trust, and knowledge of democratic processes.
00:10:57.040 Second, to promote critical thinking and respectful engagement online. Third, to provide de-escalation
00:11:06.460 and de-radicalization strategies. And fourth, promote change in platforms so that we have a stronger
00:11:13.860 democracy. So here's how they phrase it in their press release. Funded projects will help increase
00:11:21.200 civic literacy, promote critical thinking when it comes to validating sources of information,
00:11:27.980 and build capacity in Canada to fight disinformation online. The department will work closely with several
00:11:35.180 targeted and specialized organizations who are already doing work in this area. Stakeholders will
00:11:40.960 be contacted in the following days. So they don't even have this planned out, really. They haven't
00:11:47.740 talked to anyone yet. They will in the coming days. They don't care. This hasn't gone through parliament.
00:11:52.760 What's parliament? I mean, Putin doesn't use his Duma parliament either. They're all just for show.
00:12:00.000 They're going to contact the lottery winners, I mean, the stakeholders who will be showered with cash.
00:12:05.980 I'm going to guess that Edward Greenspan will receive some. And other anti-hate groups, too.
00:12:13.760 They'll use that phrase, probably. Hate being defined as anyone who disagrees with Trudeau.
00:12:20.180 You know, to say that Trudeau is going to teach us a lesson in trust, that Trudeau is going to teach
00:12:26.400 us a lesson in critical thinking, that Trudeau is going to de-radicalize us, what does that mean?
00:12:32.200 That's a phrase that's sometimes used for Islamic terrorists. I don't think de-radicalization
00:12:36.940 particularly has worked against Islamic terrorists, certainly not in Guantanamo Bay. Many of them
00:12:42.560 have become recidivists. But Trudeau is going to change how you think in your mind. Trudeau doesn't
00:12:51.520 think you can agree with him normally, naturally. If you disagree with him, it's a kind of mental illness
00:12:58.040 that needs to be cured. No, no, no. You don't just disagree with Trudeau. You need to be
00:13:04.280 de-radicalized because you're clearly a radical. Only a radical would disapprove of the great leader.
00:13:12.040 It'll be interesting to see the meat on the bones as this thing rolls out. But
00:13:15.800 I can tell you it's just one more step down the road to Putin-style censorship, isn't it?
00:13:21.740 Stay with us for more.
00:13:28.040 Well, Ukraine's army is outmatched, outgunned, outmanned by the Russian army, even though it is
00:13:41.620 down from its heyday during the Cold War. It's still a large force with modern weapons,
00:13:45.820 including an air force. Ukraine just doesn't have the ability to match it man for man or plane for
00:13:51.640 plane. But Ukraine is waging a very successful information war in the West. And that included
00:13:57.860 an appearance by the very telegenic former actor, who is now the president of Ukraine,
00:14:03.360 Vladimir Zelensky, who made an appearance via video link to the Canadian Parliament yesterday.
00:14:10.100 Here's a short excerpt from those remarks.
00:14:12.940 Canada has always been steadfast in their support. You've been a reliable partner to Ukraine and
00:14:22.580 Ukrainians, and I'm sure this will continue.
00:14:27.740 You've offered your help, your assistant, at our earliest request. You supply us with the military
00:14:35.720 assistance, with humanitarian assistance. You impose severe sanctions, serious sanctions.
00:14:42.740 At the same time, we see that, unfortunately, they did not bring the end to the war. You can see that our
00:14:52.960 cities like Kharkiv, Mariupol, and many other cities are not protected just like your cities are protected,
00:15:00.600 Edmonton, Vancouver. You can see that Kyiv is being shelled and bombed.
00:15:06.240 It used to be a very peaceful country, peaceful cities, but now they're being constantly bombarded.
00:15:18.880 Basically, what I'm trying to say that we all need to do, you all need to do more to stop Russia, to protect Ukraine,
00:15:28.120 and by doing that, to protect Europe from Russian threat. They're destroying everything, memorial complexes,
00:15:34.960 churches, schools, hospitals, housing complex. They already killed 97 Ukrainian children.
00:15:45.980 We are not asking for much. We're asking for justice, for real support, which will help us to prevail,
00:15:53.020 to defend, to save life, to save life all over the world. Canada is leading in these efforts,
00:16:00.360 and I'm hoping that other countries will follow the same suit. We're asking for more of your leadership,
00:16:08.360 and please take more, greater part in these efforts, Justin, and all of our friends of Ukraine.
00:16:16.700 That's Vladimir Zelensky. He was listing some of the harm done to Ukraine by Russia, and I don't know if you heard it.
00:16:24.180 He said it rather quickly and rather casually, aerial support. That's another way of saying a no-fly zone,
00:16:31.180 which is another way of saying that Western air forces would be tasked with shooting down any Russian aircraft over Ukraine.
00:16:39.720 Many NATO leaders have rejected that, saying it would be tantamount to starting a war directly with Russia,
00:16:46.920 a nuclear-armed nation. That was yesterday in Canada.
00:16:50.180 Here's an excerpt from President Zelensky's remarks to the U.S. Congress,
00:16:54.620 and I must say in both legislatures, he was greeted rapturously. Here's a little bit.
00:17:00.000 Remember Pearl Harbor. Terrible morning of December 7, 1941, when your sky was black from the planes attacking you.
00:17:10.640 Just remember it. Remember September the 11th, a terrible day in 2001, when evil tried to turn your cities
00:17:22.200 in independent territories, in battlefields, when innocent people were attacked, attacked from air.
00:17:33.840 Yes. Just like nobody else expected it. You could not stop it.
00:17:41.020 Our country experience the same every day.
00:17:45.740 Right now, at this moment, every night, for three weeks now, various Ukrainian cities,
00:17:54.420 Odessa and Kharki, Chernihiv and Sumer, Jutomir and Lviv, Mariupol and Dnepro,
00:17:58.680 Russia has turned the Ukrainian sky into a source of death for thousands of people.
00:18:07.640 Well, there you have it, invoking Pearl Harbor and 9-11.
00:18:11.780 Well, what should we make of this goodwill tour by video?
00:18:16.560 Joining us now via Skype is our friend Joel Pollack, Sr., editor-at-large at Breitbart.com.
00:18:21.920 Joel, what did you think of President Zelensky's remarks to Congress?
00:18:27.780 Well, I think the address was quite effective in one way.
00:18:33.320 Simply to see him there in his military T-shirt sitting in a bunker and yet speaking to the outside world was very dramatic, very effective.
00:18:46.780 And I think simply the fact that the speech happened was something that reinforced solidarity on both sides of the political divide for Ukraine in this crisis.
00:18:57.060 But what he's asking for or implying that he wants is something that most Americans are not prepared to give.
00:19:04.200 There's also bipartisan unity on that.
00:19:07.020 And there's rare agreement between President Biden and the Republicans in general on not complying with the idea of a no-fly zone for the reason you mentioned,
00:19:17.380 which is that it would create situations in which United States or NATO aircraft and Russian aircraft would encounter one another or where the United States or other countries would be shooting down Russian aircraft.
00:19:30.800 I would quibble only with one thing you said, which is that it would mean we would start World War III.
00:19:35.700 I still think the moral responsibility for this is on Putin's side, and he would be the one who effectively started it.
00:19:42.660 What's interesting psychologically, and this is where I think Biden has failed and continues to fail,
00:19:48.020 what's interesting is that psychologically we are thinking about it as if we are the ones escalating, when in fact it is Putin who is escalating.
00:19:55.560 And I've compared it to a chess match in which we are playing with the black pieces and Putin is playing with the white pieces.
00:20:02.380 And the white pieces always move first. It has nothing to do with race. It's just a convention.
00:20:06.980 But Putin has the first move. And in general, in chess, if you have the black pieces and you move second, it's very, very difficult to win.
00:20:15.020 The best you can hope for is a draw. And it's rare that even a grandmaster can win with the black pieces,
00:20:21.620 at least against another grandmaster, unless the person playing with the white pieces makes a colossal blunder.
00:20:26.680 Now, it may be that Putin has made some terrible blunders, but he's not going to make many of them.
00:20:32.640 And I think that we are playing for a draw. This is the reality of the situation we're in.
00:20:37.640 It's not something we like, and it's not how we played when Trump was president of the United States.
00:20:42.520 Trump, we always had the white pieces. We were always taking the initiative.
00:20:46.720 And it was Putin who had to worry about what Trump was going to do, rather than Biden and his intelligence agency telling the world
00:20:52.320 that they had no idea what Russia was doing, which is a terrible thing, if it is real.
00:20:56.480 And it's also terrible to admit it, whether it's real or not.
00:20:59.360 So we are, at best, hoping for a reasonable stalemate here.
00:21:04.780 And so even though if you look at my record on most foreign policy and military issues, I'm rather hawkish,
00:21:11.120 I don't think there's a military solution to this other than to continue to hold back Russian forces
00:21:17.500 so that diplomacy can reemerge. I think the best idea that I've heard, aside from a humanitarian airlift,
00:21:25.280 would be peace talks, and peace talks perhaps in Jerusalem, because Israel is the only country
00:21:31.440 that's trusted by both sides in this conflict. Israel, of course, has a close connection to Ukraine,
00:21:36.640 not just because the president of Ukraine is Jewish, which is a rare enough situation in itself outside of Israel,
00:21:41.960 but also because there are hundreds of thousands of Jews in Ukraine. It's one of the largest Jewish populations still existing in Europe.
00:21:49.920 It has very, very extensively developed institutions, close ties to Israel, close ties to Jewish tourism.
00:21:55.760 I have friends here in Los Angeles who go to Ukraine for the Jewish New Year, because there are some holy sites in Ukraine.
00:22:03.160 And so there's a lot of cultural connection there. And for all of that, Israel has remained neutral in the conflict,
00:22:10.600 at least neutral militarily. They've given Ukraine humanitarian assistance, but Israel has not condemned Russia.
00:22:16.580 That's because Israel has to work with Russia against Iran and against al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups in Syria,
00:22:23.460 where Russia was invited in by the Obama administration, which is really responsible for this present situation in some ways.
00:22:30.500 And that's the situation we have. Israel is basically pro-Ukraine sentimentally, but hasn't broken with Russia.
00:22:38.860 That could allow it to be the host for peace talks in Jerusalem. And I know that Naftali Bennett, the prime minister,
00:22:45.700 who is not the strongest leader, has at least comported himself, I think, very well in positioning Israel in a unique circumstance
00:22:53.580 where Israel could actually broker some kind of peace arrangement between the two sides.
00:22:57.700 I think any peace deal would most likely involve a commitment not to join NATO and probably some autonomy,
00:23:04.200 although not independence, for the eastern regions of Ukraine that Russia claims as its own.
00:23:09.920 I think they have to leave Crimea off the table. It's too difficult to resolve. And this war really isn't about Crimea.
00:23:15.500 So I think they can probably declare an armistice if they agree to not have Ukraine as a member of NATO.
00:23:22.640 It's no great loss for NATO because NATO is already on the border with Russia. It's no great gain for Russia either for the same reason.
00:23:29.260 But it will allow Putin at least to claim victory and then withdraw.
00:23:33.080 The actual victory belongs to the Ukrainian soldiers and civilians who stepped up to fight.
00:23:37.900 Unfortunately, I don't think they can fight for very long.
00:23:40.220 And I don't think they're going to get the broader military support they need to have a decisive victory
00:23:46.400 because it would simply draw too many other people into the conflict and it would trigger a conflict with Russia,
00:23:53.320 which would be profoundly destabilizing.
00:23:56.780 Well, you said so many things there.
00:23:58.640 And it's very interesting about Israel being one of the countries that has not piled on.
00:24:03.420 Canada has absolutely, rhetorically at least, gone all in.
00:24:09.140 Canada's Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland, whose own grandfather was an actual Nazi in the Second World War
00:24:16.920 and who herself, as part of the Canadian government, has supported the anti-Semitic Azov Battalion.
00:24:22.700 I mean, she has been probably one of the most aggressive leaders in the world promoting the Ukrainian position.
00:24:29.300 I find it difficult, Joel, I'll be very candid with you.
00:24:31.920 All the people who for two years have been brutal against their own citizens and brutal against civil liberties
00:24:40.720 are now talking about freedom and civil liberties in Ukraine.
00:24:43.980 I wish they wouldn't because I support, you know, Ukraine's right to self-determination, a sovereign country.
00:24:49.660 I don't like to see a country being invaded.
00:24:52.040 But I just can't put aside the fact that all the cheerleaders now were moments ago pitted against their own people.
00:25:02.560 I just find it hard to suddenly sign on with the Chrystia Freelands and Justin Trudeaus and Joe Bidens of the world.
00:25:07.540 I have to separate that from what's actually happening on the ground, obviously,
00:25:11.140 and be compassionate to the Ukrainian people and to realize that Putin is a KGB agent.
00:25:15.940 That's what he was before. And he's an imperialist and he wants to violently expand Russia to get someone's glory back.
00:25:22.280 I find it difficult to cheer, though, when I'm in the company of some of the folks I've just named.
00:25:28.840 Maybe that's just a problem on my part for over-politicizing right and wrong.
00:25:33.420 I think that coming from where you're coming from in Canada, where we saw one of the most egregious violations of civil liberties anywhere in the civilized world just a few weeks ago was the state of emergency to deal with a protest.
00:25:46.200 I mean, Justin Trudeau used almost Putin-like tactics to deal with his political opposition.
00:25:52.340 I mean, I'm glad you haven't ingested any polonium, but that's just about where he drew the line.
00:25:56.260 I mean, using the emergency powers to deal with a protest that was peaceful and that was breaking up anyway, there's really no excuse for that.
00:26:04.040 So I understand the wounds of that are very raw.
00:26:06.860 I would also say I don't think Canada is being very helpful.
00:26:09.480 I don't think the United States is being terribly helpful.
00:26:12.080 Yes, there's military weaponry going there and that sort of thing.
00:26:15.080 And so we're being helpful in that sense.
00:26:16.860 But I don't think this stance by the West of uniform, undying opposition to Russia is particularly productive.
00:26:25.320 I do think we have to oppose what Russia is doing.
00:26:27.300 But, for example, there's a cultural boycott that has started to happen where Russian tennis players, Russian opera singers, even dead Russian composers and writers are not allowed to be present in any way.
00:26:40.380 They're canceling Tchaikovsky concerts.
00:26:42.140 They're delisting the brothers Karamazov.
00:26:46.740 They're taking Leo Tolstoy off of lists and things like that because people are somehow triggered by anything Russian.
00:26:52.900 I mean, it's completely ridiculous, first of all, because nobody Russian, dead or alive, has any influence whatsoever on Vladimir Putin, not even the oligarchs.
00:27:00.900 And secondly, this is just a ridiculous way to unify Russians behind Putin.
00:27:05.780 And if you oppose what he's doing, you have to be able to reach into Russia and speak to cultural ambassadors.
00:27:11.780 You've got to be able to have some kind of communication.
00:27:14.160 It's virtue signaling.
00:27:15.500 It's overreach.
00:27:16.780 And so much of it actually helps Russia.
00:27:19.260 There's also a hypocrisy to it.
00:27:21.340 Biden is imposing all kinds of sanctions on Russia and that sort of thing.
00:27:25.000 Meanwhile, he just gave in to Russia on the Iran deal.
00:27:28.720 Russia made a last minute demand before this second Iran deal is finalized, much to my chagrin.
00:27:34.400 But they're about to finalize this deal.
00:27:36.960 And Russia nearly threw a wrench in the works by saying, well, we want our trade relations with Iran to be exempt from all the new sanctions that the world has put on us.
00:27:44.740 And the Americans initially hesitated, and so the deal was looking very much in doubt.
00:27:49.940 But Joe Biden has never stood up against the Iran deal.
00:27:54.360 And his negotiator, Rob Malley, has a noted record of appeasement.
00:27:57.640 And so they just gave Russia what they wanted.
00:27:59.580 Sergey Lavrov, the foreign minister of Russia, announced today that Russia is pleased with the American concessions and the negotiations can resume.
00:28:07.840 So while Biden is taking away with one hand, he's giving back with the other, and he's doing it in a way that will strengthen one of America's worst enemies, Iran.
00:28:16.300 So this is all just theater to some extent.
00:28:18.780 And I can understand your distaste at it.
00:28:21.080 I also think there's a lot of pressure on Israel because of its Holocaust history, because of its connection to Ukraine, to join Canada and the United States condemnation of Russia.
00:28:31.400 And I don't think every country needs to react in the same way.
00:28:34.100 You can't have a resolution unless there's some flexibility.
00:28:36.480 Some countries need to be available as negotiators.
00:28:40.220 Likewise, if you cut Russia off from the world financial system, there has to be some sort of incentive to reverse course.
00:28:47.540 Has there been any conversation about what incentives the world might provide to Russia if it pulls out of Ukraine?
00:28:54.480 What damage it might try to undo?
00:28:56.720 What connections it might try to repair?
00:28:58.400 There's none of that.
00:28:59.040 We're all stick right now and no carrot.
00:29:00.820 Of course, if you leave aside the fact that we're still providing silent carrots, a lot of corrupt deals with Russia regarding Iran and so forth.
00:29:09.460 But we're not doing anything to encourage movement in a positive direction.
00:29:13.340 So I think that in terms of the diplomacy of the West, the Justin Trudeau's of the world, the Joe Biden's of the world have been completely appalling.
00:29:20.840 If it weren't for Biden's weakness and Obama's weakness, we wouldn't be in the situation in the first place.
00:29:25.140 And they've done an absolutely horrible job.
00:29:27.360 So they are responsible for this.
00:29:28.800 But nevertheless, I do think that there's a lot of reason to feel empathy and support for the Ukrainian people.
00:29:36.840 What has really determined the course of events is not what we say or do, but it's really just been the strength of the Ukrainians on the ground.
00:29:43.280 I think Putin was surprised because when he invaded Crimea, Ukraine was in the middle of a political crisis.
00:29:48.460 And so the Ukrainians just left without a fight.
00:29:50.540 I think he thought that he could do the same in the rest of Ukraine, particularly because there's a sizable Russian ethnic minority.
00:29:58.620 What he didn't realize was that once you cross into Ukraine proper and you're going after Ukraine's historic cities and you're going after people who've enjoyed a taste of freedom for the last 30 years, you're meeting an entirely different kind of resistance.
00:30:11.120 They also have a president that they elected who they like, who's a reformer, and who you can see from those speeches has at least some rhetorical capability, some persuasive ability.
00:30:21.220 And they're absolutely motivated by his example to stay in the Capitol.
00:30:25.040 There were news reports that the Biden administration was offering to evacuate him.
00:30:28.460 And he, of course, turned it down, saying he doesn't need ammunition, he needs a ride.
00:30:31.960 That's a nation on its home turf, and they are not going to allow themselves to be governed by Russia.
00:30:37.580 Even if Russia overruns Ukrainian forces, which they may very well do, we are already seeing that the Russians cannot govern the cities that they're occupying.
00:30:45.680 They can't maintain order.
00:30:47.220 There are thousands of people protesting in the streets.
00:30:49.540 The Russians can't shoot all of them.
00:30:51.460 So the Russians are not going to be able to govern Ukraine.
00:30:54.360 Ukraine, in a sense, has already defended its independence.
00:30:57.380 Now we're at a point where diplomacy has to take over because if it doesn't, we are going to see more civilian deaths, and we're going to see a huge expansion, possibly a World War III.
00:31:06.660 I don't want to be alarmist about it because I do think cooler heads will prevail before then.
00:31:10.560 But that's on the horizon if we listen to some of the more hawkish people who are not really thinking about how to resolve the problem.
00:31:17.880 They're thinking about how to look tough on television, perhaps how to have future political careers, presidential campaigns, and so forth.
00:31:25.180 But I understand your reticence and reluctance.
00:31:28.540 I mean, when Nancy Pelosi greeted the Ukrainian president, I had the same reaction.
00:31:33.600 She greeted him by shouting, Slava Ukraina, which is their national rallying cry.
00:31:38.740 But you would never catch her dead saying the words America first.
00:31:41.860 You know, she would never say that.
00:31:43.780 So you can see the hypocrisy of it all.
00:31:47.220 And yet, you know, I think what Vladimir Zelensky is showing us, and maybe, you know, ironically, perhaps, because Jews have a very terrible history in Ukraine, a rich history, but a recent history of persecution and the Holocaust and so forth.
00:32:00.120 But what he is really showing us is that nationality, national sovereignty, they really do matter.
00:32:07.100 They can be inclusive.
00:32:08.580 I mean, Ukrainian sovereignty includes, as you point out, the Azov Battalion, but it also includes the Jewish president that the Azov Battalion is defending.
00:32:15.980 So, you know, Ukrainian nationalism is at least broad enough to contain those two, I suppose, extremes.
00:32:22.760 And national sovereignty is still a thing.
00:32:25.280 Canadian national sovereignty, American national sovereignty.
00:32:27.540 You and I have spoken about this a lot.
00:32:28.860 So you can have a nation, you can have a world of nations living in peace that don't have to lose their national identity and that can still be inclusive and that can have a minority from someone as small a minority as the Ukrainian Jewish community leading Ukraine.
00:32:42.840 I mean, Vladimir Zelensky is basically the leader of the free world.
00:32:46.560 And it doesn't mean we have to throw ourselves at his feet and do everything he tells us to do, because his interests may diverge from the rest of the world at certain points, especially when it comes to a no-fly zone.
00:32:55.500 But I do think that we're at a very unique moment where the West is united, not because of Biden or Trudeau or Bennett or anybody, but just because Putin has stunned everyone into a sudden show of unity.
00:33:08.960 Now the Germans are going to spend on defense.
00:33:11.380 Now they're going to cancel Nord Stream.
00:33:12.780 All of this could have been done under Trump.
00:33:14.400 This is what Trump was telling them to do.
00:33:16.180 Maybe if they had done it when Trump was president, the Russian invasion would never have happened.
00:33:19.660 But there's a rare moment of unity, and it creates a situation where peace is possible.
00:33:24.660 If Putin understands he's going up against the unified West, it's a very different calculation than simply picking on a former Soviet republic.
00:33:31.800 So I think we're in a position where some good things could happen.
00:33:34.600 But, you know, the grandstanding of some of the Canadian politicians you mentioned, Joe Biden pretending to do something mean to Russia while giving them everything they want on the Iran deal, that's not helpful.
00:33:43.980 What is helpful, I think, to his credit, and I'm a critic of it, but to his credit, Natali Bennett offering Jerusalem as a site for peace talks and that sort of thing.
00:33:52.580 So I think it's a very, very hopeful moment.
00:33:56.040 And we owe that to the Ukrainian people themselves who have really led the way and shown us what's standing up for your country, what patriotism is really about.
00:34:04.660 You know, you mentioned Trump and how he was telling NATO to boost their spending and to get off Russian oil and gas.
00:34:11.360 I want to play you just a very quick clip, and I know you've got to go soon.
00:34:14.600 But here's Trevor Noah, who's originally from South Africa.
00:34:18.100 He's a very liberal late-night talk show host and comedian.
00:34:22.980 But I think he realizes that although Donald Trump had mean tweets and whatnot, he – I was thinking of your chess analogy.
00:34:31.380 He was always the one who was causing the other side to react or to worry.
00:34:36.060 He was not a reactive person.
00:34:37.800 He was a proactive one.
00:34:39.040 Here's a quick clip of Trevor Noah, and we'll come right back, and I'll take your thoughts on it.
00:34:43.880 There is no denying that Saudi Arabia isn't playing ball with Joe Biden.
00:34:47.640 And you know what?
00:34:48.340 You can say what you want, but this would have never happened to Donald Trump.
00:34:54.260 Never.
00:34:55.960 No one was ever ignoring Donald Trump's calls.
00:34:59.280 Yeah, because if you ignored Donald Trump's calls, you didn't know how he would respond.
00:35:03.600 Maybe he'd send an angry tweet, or maybe he'd just, like, ban your country from everything.
00:35:08.100 You don't know.
00:35:09.600 That's why I bet in these situations, Biden actually wishes that he could hire Trump to step in as President Wildcard.
00:35:15.240 You know, just keep everyone on their toes.
00:35:17.460 Because if Trump was calling, you best believe the UAE, they'd be racing to pick up the phone.
00:35:21.000 Oh, Mr. Trump!
00:35:22.140 Mr. Trump, we're here!
00:35:23.060 We're here!
00:35:23.440 Hello?
00:35:23.840 Too late, Ahmed!
00:35:25.160 You made me wait two rings.
00:35:26.840 We're bombing the UAE and the UFC, just in case.
00:35:31.360 Trevor Noah is no fan of Donald Trump, but I think he's realized that those mean tweets were actually quite powerful.
00:35:38.980 And you didn't know if Trump was going to tweet at you, or sanction you, or lob a missile at you.
00:35:44.800 And you knew that you wouldn't catch him snoozing, and he wouldn't have a senior's moment.
00:35:50.980 I think a lot of the things that Trump predicted, high gas prices, Russian imperialism, unfortunately, he can say, I told you so a lot.
00:36:00.960 And I think people who were soft-hearted realized that maybe they got a downgrade with Joe Biden.
00:36:06.600 Last thoughts on that?
00:36:07.600 Well, Trevor Noah comes to this country from South Africa, which is also where I'm from.
00:36:13.140 And South Africa, in many ways, is a failing state today.
00:36:16.440 There are portions of South Africa that are doing very well.
00:36:18.720 The Western Cape, Cape Town, that region is doing very well.
00:36:22.000 The rest of the country is failing.
00:36:24.040 And I think what Trevor Noah understands, that few Americans understand, is that things can really go bad very quickly.
00:36:31.820 So it's all well and good to make fun of Donald Trump when you trust that America is strong, when you can trust that America will always be safe.
00:36:40.200 But once you start to see the leader of America go wobbly, if you're a South African or you come from any country that's experienced socialism and decay,
00:36:49.440 you understand that these things can fall apart far more quickly than you can possibly imagine.
00:36:54.300 And so I think there's a little panic bell going off in Trevor Noah's imagination saying, hey, I came to this country because I thought it was safe.
00:37:02.600 I can make fun of the president here and things aren't going to fall apart.
00:37:06.420 Now I'm not sure that's true anymore.
00:37:08.140 I can't really be who I am.
00:37:09.560 I can't be as free as Trevor Noah wants to be, he's saying to himself, I'm imagining, because the guy who's supposed to run everything isn't doing it.
00:37:17.760 And I know how bad things can get.
00:37:19.700 So I think there's a realization on the left that the security they've enjoyed, and you can only make fun of Trump in those particular ways if you are tacitly accepting that he's doing a decent enough job.
00:37:31.360 The security they've enjoyed is dissipating, and it's dissipating because of Biden's weakness.
00:37:36.760 You know, I think you're right.
00:37:37.400 I see Bill Maher of HBO and even Jon Stewart.
00:37:40.560 It's almost like their Eden time is over, and now they realize what the world is really like, and they realized how luxurious it was for them to mock and criticize because they were perfectly safe.
00:37:55.900 And now I think both of them are seeing through.
00:37:58.180 That's very interesting.
00:37:59.320 Listen, Joel, it's great to talk to you, and thanks for your very thoughtful views on things.
00:38:02.680 It's great to have so much time with you.
00:38:03.860 We look forward to reading your stuff on Breitbart.com, and we'll talk to you again soon, I hope.
00:38:08.380 All right.
00:38:08.620 Thanks so much, Ezra.
00:38:09.280 All right, there you have it, Joel Pollack, Senior Editor-at-Large at Breitbart.com.
00:38:12.880 Stay with us, Moorhead.
00:38:26.400 Hey, welcome back.
00:38:27.600 Your letters to me.
00:38:28.480 Barry M. says this about Patrick Brown.
00:38:31.840 The crowd there screaming with glee are all his hockey buddies and family and friends who got special privileges and got to go to the ice rinks.
00:38:39.280 To play hockey on our tax dollars while the rest of us were locked down by his regulations.
00:38:45.120 Well, certainly some of them would be.
00:38:46.500 I tell you, this is an odd way to phrase it, but I think it's true.
00:38:51.400 I think Patrick Brown is the most corrupt politician in Canada who is not in jail.
00:38:55.680 He's been atrocious with his conduct in Brampton, running it like a little fiefdom.
00:39:01.820 We had a run-in with him.
00:39:02.940 Imagine a man who can command five police cars to arrest a journalist for asking questions.
00:39:08.780 That's what he did at David Manzies.
00:39:10.080 Yeah, I think Patrick Brown is slippery and slimy, and I'm not saying that casually.
00:39:14.760 I mean, I think that Patrick Brown is actually ethically more challenged than Justin Trudeau.
00:39:22.100 William Robinson says, Rebel News needs to figure out Jean Charest's angle on running for the PCP leadership.
00:39:30.140 He was once a liberal, and in my eyes, he always will be a liberal.
00:39:33.700 Well, I mean, he was once a liberal, but he started his career as actually one of the youngest conservative MPs under Brian Mulroney.
00:39:42.500 I think he honestly doesn't really care about party labels.
00:39:46.200 He just is an ambitious guy who has had some success.
00:39:51.700 His campaign motto is not, I'm a real conservative.
00:39:55.460 It's, I know how to win.
00:39:57.960 I'm built to win is, I think, his phrase.
00:39:59.980 That's his pitch.
00:40:00.820 It's really the pitch that Aaron O'Toole had, which is, sure, I'm a little bit liberal.
00:40:05.820 Sure, I don't really care about carbon taxes.
00:40:09.140 I like them.
00:40:09.740 I don't really care about conservative things.
00:40:11.780 But you want to beat Trudeau, right?
00:40:13.500 You can run a perfect conservative, but if he loses, how's that any help if we have Trudeau again?
00:40:20.580 So I think Jean Charest is actually fairly honest.
00:40:24.480 He's saying, here's who I am, warts and all.
00:40:26.640 I'm not really conservative.
00:40:27.760 I'm pretty liberal.
00:40:28.420 I worked for Huawei during the Mung-1-0-2 Michaels debacle.
00:40:34.340 But I know the system and I know how to win.
00:40:36.980 I don't particularly think it's true.
00:40:38.940 I showed you those poll numbers from Quebec suggesting it's not true.
00:40:42.200 But I think, you know, I think it's going to be a bruising battle.
00:40:45.640 I think it already is.
00:40:46.360 I think you can see Patrick Brown and Pierre Polyev trading barbs.
00:40:52.000 I mean, in some ways, they're similar.
00:40:53.880 Young guys who got in politics very early and they served together under Stephen Harper.
00:40:57.780 It's quite something to watch them go at it.
00:40:59.560 I think Jean Charest is going to be elbows up there, too.
00:41:01.860 I don't think Les and Lewis or Roman Baber are going to get in on the fight.
00:41:04.580 But those first three, Pierre Polyev, Jean Charest, and Patrick Brown will.
00:41:09.340 And you know what?
00:41:09.760 I say it's a good thing.
00:41:11.800 Let's have it out.
00:41:13.740 Let's know who the leader is and what he is not.
00:41:16.640 Part of the problem with Andrew Scheer and Aaron O'Toole is that we're all things to all people.
00:41:20.080 Let's know who the leader is.
00:41:22.660 Frogman 2 says the Ukraine distraction is being played out as planned.
00:41:27.340 I really think there is no choice other than show up at their door.
00:41:31.640 God bless the truckers.
00:41:32.680 I don't know whose door you're talking about.
00:41:35.940 God bless the truckers.
00:41:36.840 I'm with you on that.
00:41:38.180 I think Ukraine is a bad news story, like when Russia seized Crimea and eastern Ukraine in 2014, like when Russia invaded Georgia.
00:41:49.580 These things happen almost always on a democratic watch, as I showed you that video from Trevor Noah.
00:41:55.760 No one would mess with Trump.
00:41:57.860 But I don't think it's worth going to World War III over, do you?
00:42:00.680 That's our show for today.
00:42:03.840 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.
00:42:07.820 And keep fighting for freedom.
00:42:08.720 And let me leave you with our video of the day from Dakota Christensen, talking to Belinda Karahalios, the MPP in Ontario, on Bill 67.
00:42:17.080 What's that about?
00:42:18.200 Here, watch for yourself.
00:42:19.640 See you later.
00:42:20.140 Dakota Christensen here for Rebel News.
00:42:22.560 I live in the great Canadian province of Ontario, and I regret to inform you that critical race theory, in its most pernicious of forms, has arrived in Ontario, here to take up a permanent place in our province's schools, from kindergarten all the way to post-secondary.
00:42:42.160 It comes now to Ontario in the form of Bill 67, titled the Racial Equity in the Education System Act, which recently passed its second reading in Ontario's legislature.
00:42:54.720 Every single member of provincial parliament in attendance, from every party, voted in favour of this bill.
00:43:02.840 Well, that is, every MPP except for one.
00:43:06.360 The lone holdout who stood against Bill 67 was Belinda Karahalios of the New Blue Party of Ontario, who is the sitting MPP for the riding of Cambridge.
00:43:17.340 I had the opportunity this past weekend to sit down with Belinda, to hear her side as to why she voted against this bill, and why she thinks that Bill 67, in fact, poses a serious threat to racial equality in our schools.
00:43:33.420 We here at Rebel News have launched a petition to fight back against the implementation of critical race theory in Ontario's schools at stopcrt.ca.
00:43:45.080 Be sure to check out that site, sign our petition, and you can also send an email to Ontario MPPs calling on them to stopbill67, again at stopcrt.ca.
00:43:59.200 In December of last year, the NDP MPP for Kitchener Centre, Laura Malindo, tabled this bill, Bill 67, entitled An Act to Amend Various Acts with Respect to Racial Equity.
00:44:09.780 And it's about infusing critical race theory into our education system, into our schools.
00:44:16.480 But the most concerning part about the bill is it talks about fining people, and that's the language it uses, people.
00:44:24.180 So students, teachers, parents, when it comes to subconscious racism.
00:44:29.020 And they've actually changed the definition of racism in the bill to include subconscious racism.
00:44:34.200 So, you know, it's a very clear bill.
00:44:37.040 It's a six-page, simple bill, very clear, probably the easiest one I've read in the four years that it had been in the Ontario legislature.
00:44:44.760 And we saw, as you said, every single MPP that was present, PC, Liberal, NDP, and Independents, voted in favor of the bill.
00:44:54.440 I was the only MPP to vote against it.
00:44:57.800 I didn't understand why the other ones were voting in favor of it, especially our Conservative Party.
00:45:02.360 And, you know, I even was subjected to a little bit of chuckling from the government benches.
00:45:06.800 One of the cabinet ministers thought it was funny that I stood up by myself to vote no against the bill.
00:45:11.240 But upon reading it, and like I said, it's very simple, it's a very dangerous bill.
00:45:16.960 Because, like I said, it allows you to fined people based on subconscious racism.
00:45:21.060 And so, you talk about penalties here for subconscious racism.
00:45:25.960 Does this also impact what children are being taught in schools and training and education?
00:45:30.980 Like, does this change the way that things are actually being taught to children and teenagers and others in our system?
00:45:37.880 So, they want to infuse, like, different aspects to the learning.
00:45:42.160 So, it's interesting.
00:45:43.380 So, teachers will actually have to go through a re-education program if they are caught with subconscious racism.
00:45:51.640 And the thing is, what's interesting about it is, you know, it includes hiring, you know, new officers onto different levels of education,
00:46:01.000 whether it's our public school board, the Ministry of Colleges, Training Universities, the Higher Education Quality Council of Ontario.
00:46:08.380 So, you're hiring all these new left-wing, for lack of a better word, left-wing woke lobbyists onto this to push this agenda.
00:46:18.820 And, you know, who's responsible for, you know, what that, what subconscious racism is?
00:46:24.200 So, it's, the bill is just, unfortunately, it's a big government bill that's just going to cost more money
00:46:29.440 and does nothing to actually address racism.
00:46:31.740 Yeah, and so, I mean, to the point there, like you said, you were the only member of Ontario's Parliament to vote against this.
00:46:39.000 Every single other person of every party did it.
00:46:41.400 I watched the actual feed of the vote.
00:46:43.340 It was, I believe, 72 against just one, just you.
00:46:46.200 I mean, on the note there, only 72 MPPs were there to actually vote.
00:46:50.300 73, I guess, including yourself, were there.
00:46:52.320 I believe the number is 124 actually sitting.
00:46:54.780 So, only 73 members of provincial Parliament actually showed up to vote on this bill,
00:46:59.900 which I think kind of speaks to the current state of Ontario's legislature.
00:47:03.700 But also, you were the, so you were the only voice of opposition, which I think is far too common these days,
00:47:08.780 on this bill.
00:47:10.080 And watching that video, I felt like it was like sort of this peer pressure mob mentality rule
00:47:15.860 in our province's legislature, where everyone, you know, did the thing,
00:47:21.120 the same thing as the person standing next to them.
00:47:22.860 They all stood up and were all proud to be part of the in-crowd.
00:47:25.940 You were the only person to stand up against this.
00:47:28.660 I mean, do you have anything to say about that, about sort of that, you know,
00:47:31.440 peer pressure mob mentality that seems to be taking hold in our, you know,
00:47:35.740 halls of power in Canada and in Ontario?
00:47:37.980 Well, first, I want to thank you for actually interviewing me about this,
00:47:40.440 because it seems like a lot of intellectuals and advocacy groups have completely ignored the fact
00:47:45.940 that I voted against this.
00:47:49.160 But the mob mentality, you know, I don't want to give them an out,
00:47:52.320 because, you know, some of the MPPs who are there, who have voted on this,
00:47:56.000 have been there for over a decade.
00:47:58.160 I mean, and like I said, this is a very simple bill.
00:48:00.220 It's six pages.
00:48:01.420 Someone with a grade five education could read it and understand it.
00:48:04.940 And it's just what's happening.
00:48:06.160 What we're seeing is the PC party is moving farther and farther left.
00:48:10.340 And they're working together with the Liberals and the NDP.
00:48:13.040 And they just keep all their policies, left-wing policies.
00:48:15.840 And so the new Blue Party of Ontario, the party that I'm part of,
00:48:19.140 we're the only true opposition in that legislature.
00:48:22.520 And so I tend to be the only one voting a lot of the times for things,
00:48:26.360 because I read the bill, I understand it.
00:48:28.520 And I'm saying, well, hang on.
00:48:30.000 Like, no one's talking about or fighting for these issues.
00:48:32.780 You know, it was the carbon tax I was fighting against.
00:48:35.680 I'm fighting against voter fraud.
00:48:38.020 It's the taxpayer-funded subsidies that political parties are getting
00:48:42.100 that all the parties voted in favor of,
00:48:44.140 even though the PC party campaigned against it.
00:48:46.640 And now all of a sudden they're getting $5 million from the taxpayer.
00:48:50.720 Bill 12, the Marriage Code of Conduct from 2020,
00:48:53.860 all things that I stood up against and blew the whistle on as the new Blue Party.
00:48:59.180 And it was only then, after we say things, that everyone else piles on and says,
00:49:02.900 well, hang on.
00:49:03.400 Yeah, actually, this is not a great idea.
00:49:05.200 So I'm very much used to doing things on my own.
00:49:08.020 If you remember July 2020, I was the only former or current PCMPP
00:49:12.180 to vote against the Reopening Ontario Act.
00:49:15.020 And I got punished for that.
00:49:16.500 And, you know, it's just, it's par for the course.
00:49:19.620 I'm here to do a job, and I'm doing my job.
00:49:21.900 Well, I, for one, am very grateful to see that opposition,
00:49:24.700 because it's so important in Canada.
00:49:27.580 You know, we have our federal government and, you know, Parliament Hill,
00:49:31.180 where all the federal MPs are sitting.
00:49:33.260 And there's a lot of attention paid to federal politics, I find, in Canada.
00:49:36.580 We often ignore the issues provincially,
00:49:38.800 because it's our provincial parliaments that are in charge of the two major areas,
00:49:42.680 would be health care and education,
00:49:44.120 that are exclusively provincial issues when it comes to legislation.
00:49:48.060 And that's often kind of falls by the wayside,
00:49:50.280 more paying attention, more to federal politics and otherwise.
00:49:52.640 So issues like this in our schools, that's completely provincially.
00:49:55.920 And, you know, I find provincially a lot of conservative-minded people
00:50:00.780 have sort of given up on provincial politics a lot.
00:50:03.200 They're more focused on federal politics.
00:50:05.280 And it does come down to just, you know, I see you sitting there,
00:50:08.780 and you're one of the only ones, if not the only one,
00:50:11.200 who's actually in there debating and voting.
00:50:13.500 So, I mean, I'd just like to commend you for that, for one.
00:50:15.800 But, I mean, coming back to the bill here itself,
00:50:18.780 yesterday it caught my attention that Jordan Peterson,
00:50:21.260 the, you know, well, very well-known, outspoken author, academic, clinical psychologist,
00:50:26.620 he put out a video, essentially, I think it was just titled Warning, Bill 67.
00:50:31.360 And he called this, something along the lines here of,
00:50:34.620 he called it the most pernicious and dangerous piece of legislation
00:50:37.660 that any Canadian government has attempted to put forward.
00:50:40.560 I'm going to read something that I wrote about this as a warning.
00:50:47.420 A warning to citizens of Ontario and Canada.
00:50:50.000 Bill 67, which purports to be nothing but an anti-racist bill,
00:50:54.780 is, in fact, the most pernicious and dangerous piece of legislation
00:50:58.260 that any Canadian government has attempted to put forward.
00:51:03.220 And I hope I'm not saying that lightly.
00:51:05.360 It will make mandatory the subversion of the entire education system in Ontario,
00:51:12.460 K-12, as well as colleges and universities,
00:51:15.280 to the radically leftist doctrines known as critical theory,
00:51:20.660 a thoroughly anti-Western ideology,
00:51:23.540 both postmodern and Marxist, in its derivation,
00:51:27.320 based on the idea that all our extant institutions
00:51:30.860 are racist, sexist, and discriminatory in their essence.
00:51:36.080 That's a very bold statement.
00:51:37.660 And his whole video was just going through talking about this bill
00:51:39.980 and just how dangerous it is, from his perspective, at least.
00:51:44.220 But he didn't really put anything forward as to what we can do about this.
00:51:48.900 He said it's very dangerous.
00:51:49.880 He wanted to, you know, put the issue out there,
00:51:51.980 speak out from his platform, say,
00:51:53.120 guys, this is really an issue.
00:51:54.840 We need to pay attention to this.
00:51:56.280 But, I mean, from your perspective,
00:51:57.440 as someone who has been in the legislature debating and voting against this bill,
00:52:01.600 what can we do if we're concerned about people instilling critical race theory,
00:52:06.940 which is such a buzzword now,
00:52:08.480 but, you know, instilling these essentially racist and harmful,
00:52:14.040 I mean, it's like weaponizing guilt and stoking racial divisions
00:52:17.460 and pushing these ideologies on schoolchildren,
00:52:21.020 go up to university level.
00:52:22.660 This is something that I find very concerning myself
00:52:25.260 and anyone who has children in our education system.
00:52:28.000 So all that to say, you know, what can we do?
00:52:30.180 If you're someone concerned about this bill,
00:52:32.340 concerned about critical race theory in our schools
00:52:34.860 and other harmful ideologies that are being pushed like this,
00:52:37.760 almost unanimously, what can we do to fight back?
00:52:40.500 Because I know a lot of people feel pretty hopeless
00:52:42.360 against this sort of thing that's, you know,
00:52:44.760 creeping into all of our institutions.
00:52:46.480 What can we do?
00:52:47.400 So first I just want to say with the Jordan Peterson podcast,
00:52:50.560 it's interesting because it took three PhDs and 80 minutes
00:52:54.580 to kind of delve into this bill.
00:52:56.220 And let me tell you, that is, that's not required.
00:52:59.720 This is a very simple bill, as I mentioned before.
00:53:02.700 And it seemed, again, I didn't watch the whole thing,
00:53:05.240 but it seemed like they were trying to give the PCs an out.
00:53:07.720 And Rick Nichols, he apologized for voting against it.
00:53:10.420 Trying to give these guys an out.
00:53:11.560 There's no excuses.
00:53:14.040 There's no excuses.
00:53:14.840 You know, a lot of these people have been here
00:53:17.540 in Rick Nichols' case for a decade.
00:53:20.000 And to say that you read the bill and didn't understand it,
00:53:22.740 it was tabled in December.
00:53:24.500 We voted in March.
00:53:26.160 It's a six-page, simple, simple bill.
00:53:29.280 If you have trouble understanding that,
00:53:31.380 we have a bigger problem on our hands.
00:53:33.180 But what we're seeing is people like Rick Nichols
00:53:35.340 and other PC operatives and the PC party,
00:53:37.700 they're all just going to the left.
00:53:39.920 And what we need to do as Ontarians
00:53:42.220 is you get behind people who are going to stand up for you,
00:53:45.220 so like myself at the New Blue Party,
00:53:46.820 but it's also making your voice heard.
00:53:49.200 And so, you know, when it came to Bill 12, for example,
00:53:51.120 like I mentioned before,
00:53:52.240 the New Blue Party put out a call to action.
00:53:54.980 And Ontarians, you know, they all contacted their MPPs.
00:53:59.240 And sure enough, that bill failed.
00:54:00.480 The PCs voted against that bill and it failed.
00:54:02.620 And we need to continue doing that
00:54:04.380 and let them know that this is unacceptable.
00:54:06.180 The thing is, with a bill like this,
00:54:08.040 people are nervous to speak up about it
00:54:10.160 because they don't want to be labeled.
00:54:12.680 And, you know, I've had people contact me
00:54:14.580 at the constituency office thanking me.
00:54:16.700 You know, I'm one of the few female MPPs
00:54:19.100 who's recognized by the Coalition of Black Trade Unionists.
00:54:21.500 I mixed, my dad's Trinidadian.
00:54:23.480 And unfortunately, people said they felt safer
00:54:26.700 that I voted against it because of that.
00:54:28.380 And that's so sad.
00:54:29.120 Like, it shouldn't matter about my ethnicity.
00:54:32.740 It's something as simple as reading this legislation,
00:54:35.380 this very simple legislation,
00:54:36.860 and understanding that this is not something
00:54:39.540 that should be introduced into our school system.
00:54:41.060 And so I would encourage parents and just people in general
00:54:44.420 to speak up about this and get in contact with your boards
00:54:47.720 and with your MPPs and let them know to vote no against this bill
00:54:51.120 if it gets through committee and comes to third reading.
00:54:53.400 If you believe that this twisted form of critical race theory
00:55:00.440 and any such perversely racist ideologies
00:55:04.100 have no place in our schools to be forced on our children,
00:55:08.340 if you believe that no one should be singled out
00:55:11.500 or taught to feel more or less than anyone else
00:55:14.700 due to the color of their skin
00:55:16.440 or punished for their subconscious ideas,
00:55:20.380 then please go to stopcrt.ca and sign our petition.
00:55:26.040 Bill 67 is a radically harmful piece of legislation
00:55:29.860 cloaked behind the thin and misleading veil of racial equity,
00:55:34.740 and it must be stopped.
00:55:36.260 So please do sign and share our petition again at stopcrt.ca.
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