Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trudeau's Islamist agenda deliberately changed Canada

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. A great conversation with our longtime commentator buddy, Barbara Kay.

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00:01:40.520 Tonight, is Dubai a safer city for Jews to live in than Montreal? It's December 10th,

00:02:00.520 and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:02:05.520 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:02:17.520 Well as I said yesterday, I'm not quite sure that the rebel commander, that's hey, that's

00:02:22.520 my nickname, that's my nickname, who has taken over Syria is much of a liberator. I think it's

00:02:28.420 out of the frying pan into the fire. I don't for one second defend Bashar Assad and some 0.90

00:02:33.860 of the scenes from those political prisons are absolutely shocking, the most depraved conditions

00:02:39.420 imaginable. I will even use the phrase Nazi-like or certainly Stalinist. And no doubt people who

00:02:46.260 have hated the Assad family for two generations are delighted to see it replaced, but I fear 0.99

00:02:52.260 what has come in its place is even worse. It reminds me in so many ways of Muammar Gaddafi,

00:02:58.260 the tyrant of Libya, who was deposed only to have absolute chaos, lawlessness, open air slave markets,

00:03:06.260 and a version of ISIS take over that country. And it was a starter pistol to millions of migrants from 1.00

00:03:13.260 Africa and the Middle East into Europe, perhaps the most fateful decision ever done by Hillary Clinton

00:03:20.260 as Secretary of State. I see many of the same forces at play now. And I wonder if the celebrations

00:03:28.260 around the West by Syrian expat communities mean some of them will return home to Syria or the opposite,

00:03:36.260 if others will flee Syria toward the West. That's a question that every Canadian should think about.

00:03:42.260 Justin Trudeau got elected in part by his promise to bring in tens of thousands of Syrian migrants

00:03:48.260 to Canada. And he thinks he can extend his stay by doing the same again, ramping up immigration to

00:03:55.260 never-before-seen levels and breaking the Canadian consensus of immigration at the same time. But I think

00:04:02.260 one of the cities most wracked by violence or threats of violence from these Syrian migrants and others of the 1.00

00:04:11.260 the Islamic persuasion is that of Montreal. Montreal is a favorite for many refugees and migrants from

00:04:18.260 French-speaking countries like Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, and others from the Maghreb, as it's called.

00:04:26.260 And it was only a couple of weeks ago that Montreal was the site of a Damascus-style, 1.00

00:04:32.260 Gaza-style, Gaza-style, perhaps you could say Amsterdam-style riot. While Prime Minister Justin Trudeau

00:04:41.260 partied the night away, exchanging friendship bracelets with teenage girls at the Taylor Swift concert,

00:04:48.260 at that precise moment, a combination, a coalition of pro-Hamas extremists and Antifa street thugs

00:04:56.260 smashed their way through the city. While the collected leaders of NATO watched in astonishment,

00:05:03.260 Trudeau was nowhere to be found. Here, take a look at some of that riot footage.

00:05:07.260 So what are you, it's a woman who was f 1.00

00:05:34.620 I should say, despite the fact that hundreds, maybe even thousands of people participated in

00:05:56.360 those riots, that night there were literally only three arrests made by the police of Montreal.

00:06:02.460 Well, that's violence at its worst so far, may it not get any worse, but what we see in Montreal is a

00:06:09.080 constant low-level assault on normal. Here's some imagery of pro-Hamas extremists parked outside

00:06:16.800 the Notre Dame Basilica, not to be confused with the Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris, but the

00:06:23.320 marvelous cathedral in Montreal, when Islamic extremists who call for Sharia law protest outside

00:06:31.500 a Catholic church, it's not for any reason other than to intimidate and displace, perhaps 1.00

00:06:38.020 one day conquer, perhaps one day torch, as its namesake in Paris was torched. Recently, Francois

00:06:45.440 Legault, the premier of Quebec, announced that he was sick of having Middle Eastern, he said,

00:06:53.080 Middle Eastern migrants on the streets, praying in a place that blocked the public. Here's 1.00

00:06:59.740 what he said about that.

00:07:00.760 Well, it's nice for him to wake up some 14 months after it began, but I put it to you

00:07:21.260 that we don't need more laws, especially laws focusing on the religious aspect. It's the

00:07:25.880 territorial aspect. It's the breaking of existing laws. You don't need to ban religion in the public

00:07:31.600 place, a ban that will surely be used against Jews and Christians too. You need just to enforce the 1.00

00:07:37.320 regular laws against nuisance, mischief, trespass, vandalism, uttering threats. Had Quebec done that

00:07:45.100 from the beginning, it wouldn't be in the riotous situation it's in now. Well, joining us now to talk

00:07:50.560 about what's happening to Canada's second most populous city is our friend Barbara Kay, who lives

00:07:56.440 in Montreal and has been watching this from a front row seat. Barbara, great to see you again.

00:08:02.100 Good to be here, Ezra.

00:08:03.520 You know, Montreal was such a Jewish city. Obviously, it was a Catholic city and a French city and an Anglo

00:08:10.220 city. But for, I don't know, 50 years, maybe 100 years, it was a city also of Leonard Cohen,

00:08:17.600 of Mordecai Ritzler, of, you know, of Delhi's and Jewish street life and Ashkenazi. And there

00:08:25.360 was so many things about it that were safe and peaceful and happy. But that Montreal is gone

00:08:30.680 forever, isn't it? It seems that it is. I mean, I hope it's not gone forever, but it certainly doesn't

00:08:37.780 look like it's going to come back anytime soon. And I agree, it was always a city in which

00:08:43.280 Jewish culture flourished, both Ashkenazi and Sephardic since the 1960s. You know, probably half 0.89

00:08:51.680 the population now is of Sephardic origin. They bring their own wonderful traditions from the Middle

00:08:57.960 East and their own, of course, their French speaking and very vibrant, of course, very strong

00:09:04.820 institutional life. You know, the Jewish general hospital and the Jewish agencies that serve the

00:09:10.640 entire city, Jewish theater, Yiddish theater. It's not gone, but it certainly could be gone if

00:09:18.760 things don't turn around, that's for sure.

00:09:23.620 I'm glad you mentioned Sephardi Jews, just for our viewers who don't know. Ashkenazi Jews are typically

00:09:28.440 Western European Jews, Central European Jews, typically from Germany or Poland or Ukraine,

00:09:33.440 you could say, where Sephardi Jews are often from Arab lands. Places like Morocco, Iraq even,

00:09:42.420 where they were expelled often in the 50s and 60s as a kind of ethnic cleansing. Some of them went to

00:09:48.320 Israel, but some of them, being French speakers, would have gone to Quebec as well. I don't know,

00:09:56.260 things, I mean, demographics is destiny. Our friend Mark Stein has been telling us that for 20 years,

00:10:02.180 I suppose, and, you know, Canada's demographics were deliberately altered through a campaign of mass

00:10:09.800 migration. I think Trudeau accelerated that, and he had a Islamic immigration strategy for political

00:10:17.480 reasons as much as anything else. There's no particular economic reason for it, but if Stephen

00:10:23.420 Harper was known as a friend of the Jews, and if Trudeau couldn't compete with that, well, if he would bring

00:10:29.600 in a million Muslim migrants on his watch, that would more than offset the Jewish vote. I really do think it was 0.99

00:10:36.180 political. What do you think?

00:10:37.800 I think it was political, and I think there's something very fascinating and exotic to a certain, a certain kind of

00:10:45.040 mindset. They have no use for their own culture. They're bored with their own culture. They think

00:10:50.840 their own culture is old-fashioned, and it's time to turn the page on. You know, Christianity is old news 1.00

00:10:58.540 to them, and they pride themselves on being post-religion, but there's something about Islam that they find very 0.96

00:11:08.800 exotic and very attractive. And so, yes, I think it was political. He did want to change the character

00:11:19.100 of the culture. He did want to make it multicultural, and it was the easiest way to do it, and a way that

00:11:24.920 attracted him, too. I see that he is attracted to Islam, and he does not see Islamism as a force that is

00:11:35.080 changing this country in a rather alarming way. I think his brother had an impact on us, too. His

00:11:41.920 brother, Alexandra, who has never met a tyrant he doesn't like. I guess that runs in the family. Pierre

00:11:47.320 Trudeau was the same way. Alexandra Trudeau produced a movie called The New Great Game that was entirely

00:11:56.180 sympathetic to Iran and the Ayatollahs. Now, that may be his natural point of view. I'm sure it is, but the film 0.99

00:12:02.720 was actually produced by state media in Iran. So it's not just that he was a pro-Iran shill,

00:12:11.420 which I think should question his judgment and his ethics. He literally worked for the government of

00:12:17.360 Iran propagating their message, the definition of propaganda. Despite that, Trudeau, Justin Trudeau,

00:12:26.840 made Alexandra his policy advisor in his leadership, Brian. No, I agree with you. Alexandra is definitely

00:12:35.080 holds views that I find distasteful, to say the least. And I think I'm reminded in Trudeau's

00:12:44.000 sort of fascination with Islam and Iran, I'm reminded of president, ex-president, former

00:12:51.860 president Obama, who was infatuated with the idea that Iran should be the strong man of the Middle East

00:13:04.160 and that he had this idea that if Iran was the leader or had the power to kind of, you know,

00:13:15.000 be the force that kept a lid on everything in the Middle East, that that would be a good thing. 1.00

00:13:20.580 He was completely wrong in his estimation. And he and a lot of a great deal of the

00:13:26.920 unrest and disturbance and violence in the Middle East that we have seen in the last few years is a

00:13:33.200 result of his failed and misguided policy. And I think Trudeau in his own way is, is reminds me very

00:13:41.400 much of Obama in terms of letting his fascination with this, uh, culture that is completely different

00:13:48.780 from our own. And, and for that reason, very appealing. Uh, he is, he, he has allowed our country,

00:13:57.340 uh, to, uh, to, well, he, he, as you can see, and as you've said, uh, he has not put a lid on

00:14:08.240 the violence that has erupted since October 7th. Uh, he's done very little. And, and by the way,

00:14:14.680 that, that, that riot, um, the anti-NATO riot, it wasn't anti-NATO. Uh, they happened to be there.

00:14:21.720 That riot, I believe erupted because he made a public statement saying that he fully supported the

00:14:28.960 international, uh, criminal court. And, uh, yes, he would arrest Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant if they were to,

00:14:36.760 uh, come to Canada, uh, because he felt bound to, you know, uh, to support, uh, that, that court.

00:14:44.000 And they took from that the message that it was, yes, open season on Jews, because to them, Jews and

00:14:52.500 Israel are all the same. Uh, so I believe that that was actually connected. Uh, and it's tragic that, 0.98

00:15:01.100 uh, look, fish, fish rot from the head. Uh, Trudeau has shown zero leadership on the, uh, growing

00:15:10.660 anti-Semitism and he has, he has issued platitudes. Uh, it, it's very easy for a leader to say the right 0.58

00:15:20.040 things and do the right things. And we have seen, uh, Donald Trump make pronouncements. You will see

00:15:26.320 anti-Semitism subside in the United States after he becomes, he's inaugurated and you will see campuses

00:15:33.900 take control of their campuses because he has threatened to withhold funding if they don't. Uh, and you will

00:15:40.160 see, uh, that people will be deported, uh, or that people will be jailed or that there will be a very strong

00:15:49.460 leadership on that file. And you will see, uh, a direct result and, uh, and, uh, things will get

00:15:57.240 better. I believe, uh, once he, he is in power, uh, if you don't take a strong sand, the leadership

00:16:03.700 does not, the message is sent. I don't care. I don't care that this is happening and I'm not seeing

00:16:09.500 it. I'm not, I'm not prepared to do anything about it. Uh, he is giving permission, uh, for these riots

00:16:17.080 to continue and for anti-Semitism, uh, to be rife in our streets. Um, but can I just say, you said

00:16:26.780 something I would like to respond to. You said religion isn't the issue and, uh, Muslims praying in the

00:16:35.460 streets. There's nothing wrong with that, um, in the public forum. I actually disagree with you. I think that when,

00:16:43.380 uh, uh, aggressive, uh, activists, Muslim activists take to the streets to pray, it's not about expressing

00:16:52.860 piety or faith or, uh, their love for Allah. It's about saying we are dominating your public spaces and 0.98

00:17:01.960 we will triumph, uh, in this country. Our religion is going to triumph in this country. So I do not see

00:17:10.800 Christians praying in the streets. I don't see Jews praying in the streets. I don't see Hindus praying in the 1.00

00:17:17.060 streets. Nobody prays in the streets. The public forum is for everybody to enjoy and everybody to meet and

00:17:24.280 greet each other. Uh, it's not for one group to, uh, start chanting prayers and everybody else has to sort of,

00:17:33.060 you know, walk around or, or not speak up or not. That's no longer a public forum. They, they've turned,

00:17:40.780 the public space into a prayer space and their, their prayers are often tinged with political,

00:17:49.160 um, ideology. Uh, Islam is both a religion and an ideology. And in these spaces, when they do these, 0.99

00:17:58.620 uh, organized, um, performance theater of praying in the street, there's a very strong message there.

00:18:05.660 And it's a political message, not a message of faith, in my opinion.

00:18:10.040 I agree with every word you said. I think maybe I expressed myself too, uh, briefly. It's,

00:18:15.380 it's the political domination using religion as the excuse and, and daring us say, well,

00:18:23.100 you wouldn't violate your belief in civil liberties and multiculturalism, would you? It's a,

00:18:27.940 it's a twofold tactic. It's weaponizing Islam and it's daring us to do something about it, 1.00

00:18:35.400 relying on the fact that we're apologetic liberal Westerners and we will always

00:18:40.120 accommodate the other. Oh, I agree with you. I mean, my point on that is

00:18:44.320 Legault doesn't actually need to ban religion in the public square because there are plenty of laws to

00:18:50.720 get people off the, off the street. You can't just walk on the street. At the very least,

00:18:55.140 you get a jaywalking charge. You can get more than that. So I think, but wasn't he more commenting

00:19:00.840 on the seven schools that he, there were seven schools that he, he was saying that they were

00:19:07.220 allowing prayer in the school and that the teachers were themselves Muslim and encouraging prayer in

00:19:11.900 the school. And he was very exercised about that because as you know, uh, Quebec is, uh, militantly,

00:19:18.400 um, committed to secularism in schools. I happen to agree with that.

00:19:25.140 I I'm perfectly okay with bill 21 and I am perfectly okay with all prayer in the school

00:19:32.100 not happening. And I think that it apparently has been in certain schools that are dominated,

00:19:39.660 uh, that, that have a strong, um, population of Muslims, including amongst the teachers

00:19:45.180 that this is going on and it should not. I agree with him on that.

00:19:49.120 I want to tell you that I, I really don't disagree with the word you said. I think maybe I was being

00:19:53.980 too subtle by suggesting that the premier has, it's like when I hear people say, we need laws against

00:20:00.400 online antisemitism. We need the online harms act to stop antisemitism. And I think, are you kidding

00:20:08.360 me? I see antisemitism in real life every day. The police in my own town abide threats,

00:20:15.860 vandalism, mischiefs, you know, almost like a crystal knock. And you're saying, oh, if only we

00:20:21.460 had this extra law, we could do something about it. My, my point to Legault would be the same point

00:20:26.200 to those who support a censorship bill, which is we're just not even enforcing the laws right now

00:20:31.940 for whatever political reason. And I don't think we need to say no religion on the main street of the

00:20:39.960 city because we already have other laws saying no, nothing on the main street of the city without,

00:20:44.740 you know, you get a parade permit, maybe there's a St. Patrick's Day parade or whatever it is,

00:20:49.780 a controlled planned community event, not a hate march. But you said other things that I forgot about

00:20:56.920 Obama and how exotic he was. And I don't know if you remember this, Barbara, but do you remember the

00:21:02.020 very first international speech that Obama gave after he was inaugurated? It was not in Canada, it was not

00:21:11.140 at the United Nations, it was not even in Afghanistan or anything like that. It was, if I'm not mistaken,

00:21:17.060 I'm going from memory here, I haven't thought about it in a while, it was in Cairo. Cairo, it was in Cairo.

00:21:21.960 At the Al-Azhar sort of university. And he invited the Muslim Brotherhood, which is basically a multi-tentacle 1.00

00:21:31.020 terror group, an Islamist extremist group. He invited Iran to sit in the front row. And I don't know if you

00:21:37.740 remember this, but he actually introduced himself. The only time I've ever heard him do that,

00:21:42.060 I'm Barack Hussein Obama. So he leaned into how exotic he was. And the message he gave that day was,

00:21:52.440 we're not going to judge you. Iran can choose its own future. Any country here can choose

00:21:58.360 their version of democracy. And America's not going to respond. Here's a quick clip of that speech,

00:22:05.820 which was translated and subtitled into a dozen languages. It was the greatest,

00:22:11.340 most important foreign policy push of the Obama administration, at least the first term.

00:22:17.300 Here's a reminder of what that looked like. Now, much has been made of the fact that an

00:22:21.640 American, an African-American with the name Barack Hussein Obama could be elected president.

00:22:27.820 The fourth issue that I will address is democracy. I know there has been controversy about the promotion of democracy in recent years,

00:22:53.760 and much of this controversy is connected to the war in Iraq. So let me be clear,

00:22:59.960 no system of government can or should be imposed by one nation by any other.

00:23:10.280 That does not lessen my commitment, however, to governments that reflect the will of the people.

00:23:16.200 Each nation gives life to this principle in its own way, grounded in the traditions of its own people.

00:23:26.560 America does not presume to know what is best for everyone, just as we would not presume to pick the outcome of a peaceful election.

00:23:34.280 But, I do have an unyielding belief that all people yearn for certain things.

00:23:43.800 The ability to speak your mind and have a say in how you are governed.

00:23:50.560 Confidence in the rule of law and the equal administration of justice.

00:23:57.040 Government that is transparent and doesn't steal from the people.

00:24:01.000 The freedom to live as you choose.

00:24:06.620 These are not just American ideas.

00:24:09.000 They are human rights.

00:24:10.620 And that is why we will support them everywhere.

00:24:13.820 Now, there is no straight line to realize this promise.

00:24:17.860 But this much is clear.

00:24:20.220 Governments that protect these rights are ultimately more stable, successful, and secure.

00:24:26.260 Suppressing ideas never succeeds in making them go away.

00:24:33.920 America respects the right of all peaceful and law-abiding voices to be heard around the world, even if we disagree with them.

00:24:44.880 And we will welcome all elected peaceful governments, provided they govern with respect for all their people.

00:24:52.060 And I think you're exactly right.

00:24:54.460 I think Trudeau, when he plays dress-up all the time, when he's always trying on a new costume, I think it's because there's no core to him.

00:25:05.640 When he says Canada is a post-national country, I think he's just sort of projecting he has no core.

00:25:12.300 Who is he?

00:25:13.440 And the crazy irony there is he comes from a pillar of Canadian history.

00:25:19.480 He comes from a terrible but great prime minister.

00:25:24.080 He comes from a prime minister who served 16 years, who was elected time and again, who had strong views on bilingualism, on the chart of rights.

00:25:32.800 You can disagree or agree with Pierre Trudeau, but imagine being an apple that falls from the Pierre Trudeau tree and being so hollow.

00:25:42.540 And like, as the Bible would say, salt that has lost its saltiness. 1.00

00:25:47.520 Yeah, well, he's not only hollow, he's ignorant of—and I don't think he's stupid, but he is ignorant of the world. 0.99

00:25:55.920 And this is a kid who, from the time he was very young, six or seven, he was accompanying his father around the world, meeting, you know, leaders of countries all over the world. 0.99

00:26:07.140 And if ever a child would have been encouraged to be interested in history and be interested in politics and be interested, it would have been him.

00:26:17.980 And I think he did study history.

00:26:19.900 Wasn't he a history teacher or something? 0.95

00:26:21.300 But this is somebody who is absolutely ignorant of the Middle East and has no interest, and has no interest in foreign affairs.

00:26:31.280 So otherwise, he certainly would not have appointed Melanie Jolie to that role.

00:26:37.040 He has never shown that he knows what he's talking about when he talks about the Middle East or anywhere else.

00:26:45.720 So this is rather distressing, too.

00:26:48.280 Obama is far more intelligent than Trudeau and is definitely interested in history and politics.

00:26:56.080 But his choice of Iran to suck up to and to make his shining star so that America could withdraw from the Middle East was simply misguided.

00:27:10.580 He had a vision.

00:27:12.480 He misunderstood Iran.

00:27:14.980 He misunderstood their intentions.

00:27:16.320 He misunderstood everything.

00:27:18.740 And that's not for lack of intelligence.

00:27:20.420 It's arrogance and a kind of a belief in his own, that his own reason told him this is what it should be.

00:27:29.380 This is what we, you know, what a reasonable policy would be instead of actually looking at the facts on the ground.

00:27:36.780 Well, it'd be amazing to see what happens with Iran in the weeks ahead. 0.98

00:27:40.400 I tell you, between the destruction of Hezbollah, their terrorist group in Lebanon, between the collapse of Assad in Syria, between Israel eliminating Iran's air defenses, and between basically the end of the Gaza war.

00:27:57.020 I acknowledge there's 100 hostages yet to be released.

00:28:02.180 But, I mean, the ability of Hamas to cause strikes on Israel is very limited.

00:28:08.640 The Middle East has changed more in the last year than I think in the decade previous, other than the Abraham Accords that Trump achieved in his first term.

00:28:18.780 And that I think he's going to build on quickly in his second term.

00:28:21.820 I don't know if we talked about it.

00:28:22.340 I agree.

00:28:22.980 It's held up throughout all this turmoil.

00:28:27.040 Those accords have, they have stood up.

00:28:30.620 And thanks to Israel's response to Hamas, Hezbollah, the dominoes that are falling in Syria, clearing a path to Iran. 0.98

00:28:43.520 Israel has destroyed all the air defenses in Syria.

00:28:48.620 They've destroyed the routes that are allowing.

00:28:51.320 Hezbollah can no longer get any arms.

00:28:55.180 So Hezbollah is crippled.

00:28:57.160 Hamas is pretty well defeated.

00:28:59.080 Assad is gone.

00:29:02.020 This is unbelievable what's going on in the Middle East today. 1.00

00:29:06.260 And you said you didn't know if these groups would be any better than Assad because they're like ISIS. 0.85

00:29:17.040 I mean, they're Islamist groups.

00:29:20.520 But I've noticed something very interesting about the one that's the big leader.

00:29:26.380 I'm sorry, I forget his name.

00:29:27.500 Al-Jolani, I think.

00:29:28.840 Al-Jolani, yeah.

00:29:30.720 He did something very interesting.

00:29:32.980 As they paraded, as they made their way to Damascus, he said to, he told his men, do not harm the Christians or the, you know, the Yazidis or the minorities.

00:29:45.260 He said things are going to be different this time.

00:29:49.400 Maybe they will.

00:29:50.120 And the Druze, maybe they will, maybe they won't. 1.00

00:29:53.520 But, you know, once again, Syria was put together as a country.

00:29:57.920 It had no actual rationale for, you know, was it a fit between the Alawites, Assad is an Alawite, the Sunnis, the Shiites.

00:30:08.500 But it should have been, that should not have been the case.

00:30:13.100 You should not have had an Alawite leader for a largely Sunni population. 1.00

00:30:18.960 Anyways, I wouldn't say that even though they're Islamists, that they're not a lot more politically sophisticated than they used to be.

00:30:29.640 I honestly seem to see a glimmer of that, you know, very often former terrorists end up being, they turn into legitimate political leaders.

00:30:41.820 That has happened in the past.

00:30:43.600 And I see some hope here that there could be intelligent leadership there.

00:30:50.680 But it's too soon to tell.

00:30:52.580 Yeah.

00:30:53.480 Well, I mean, there's the Trump effect, of course, if you recall, short days after Trump was elected.

00:30:58.380 The Houthis, the terrorist group in Yemen, unilaterally announced they were going to stop attacking freighters and other commercial ships going through the Red Sea in the Suez Canal.

00:31:08.860 And I don't think they would have made that announcement had Kamala Harris won.

00:31:13.100 Totally agree. Totally agree.

00:31:14.500 And then Trump said, you better give back those hostages or you're going to see to Hamas or you'll, you know, rue the day you were born.

00:31:24.020 I mean, I think they're taking that very seriously.

00:31:26.000 I hear there's lists being drawn up of hostages that are going to be released.

00:31:31.280 It'll be interesting.

00:31:32.380 And I think that, I mean, if you remember, Obama toyed with ISIS for years, but Trump wrapped them up in a matter of weeks.

00:31:39.660 Trump took out a senior Iranian commander, Soleimani.

00:31:43.440 I think that, you know, there is something to be said about walk softly and carry a big step.

00:31:48.140 In Trump's case, he walks very noisily, but that seems to do the trick.

00:31:54.060 Well, in the Middle East, power is what people respect.

00:31:57.040 This idea that you can de-escalate and get diplomacy, diplomacy, this idea that you can talk your way to peace.

00:32:04.300 It has never happened yet in the Middle East.

00:32:06.320 And, you know, unless things change very radically, it's like, it's like Osama bin Laden said, weak horse, strong horse.

00:32:14.860 People respect, respect the strong horse.

00:32:17.620 That's the way it's always been in that corner of the world.

00:32:21.280 And it seems to be still the case.

00:32:23.880 So I would say, you know, you're going to see a strong horse coming in.

00:32:31.120 And it will be for America's good and for Israel's good, I would say. 0.65

00:32:38.720 So I'm looking forward to that transition.

00:32:40.980 You know, there was never a rally for Gaza or for Hamas in Abu Dhabi, in Dubai, in Riyadh.

00:32:53.480 In fact, the most atrocious places were in the West, were in Amsterdam, Montreal, Columbia University.

00:33:03.340 Columbia University was single-handedly... 0.68

00:33:06.160 It's such a sewer.

00:33:06.920 That's such a sewer. 0.96

00:33:07.940 They're the worst. 1.00

00:33:09.040 They're the worst. 0.99

00:33:09.580 And it's in such a pearl, such a golden place. 0.69

00:33:13.720 It was.

00:33:14.660 And it's the West that houses these radicals.

00:33:18.600 They wouldn't put up with this for a moment.

00:33:22.260 No, I mean, you bring up a very good point.

00:33:24.580 The Abraham Accord countries, they really have learned a lot of lessons in the past 50 years.

00:33:34.500 And I would say, if there's one really encouraging sign, is what you said, that they were very quiet during the whole thing.

00:33:43.440 And right now, today, probably the safest place for Jews in the world, as the Emirates, as the Emirates say, is the United Arab Emirates.

00:33:55.660 They have consciously chosen to become pluralistic and to boast about their pluralism, and they welcomed Christians, welcomed Jews, welcomed them to enjoy their religious freedom.

00:34:11.260 And this, to me, this, to me, is a very shocking thing, because it's almost like Islam in their countries went through a reformation without using the word reformation.

00:34:22.580 So, I really, we can't give up hope for the Middle East, because there's reason to hope. 0.99

00:34:32.880 About the West, I don't think there's too much reason.

00:34:35.400 As you say, I don't think there's a lot of reason to have hope about the West.

00:34:40.000 I think we are in serious decline, except we'll see what happens in America.

00:34:44.400 But in Europe, Canada, Australia, these countries, they're just giving in.

00:34:51.700 They are giving in and accepting their decline, as if that was a natural thing to happen when you have multiculturalism. 1.00

00:35:02.960 And if, you know, you just let it happen.

00:35:08.260 Yeah.

00:35:09.200 It just, you made me think of a little anecdote, a little factoid.

00:35:13.500 Of course, there was always a direct flight from Toronto to Tel Aviv on Air Canada, and there were other airlines, too, from time to time.

00:35:23.560 Those were canceled.

00:35:24.520 You can't fly direct to Tel Aviv.

00:35:26.300 But one airline that never stopped flying to Tel Aviv was the Emirates and fly Dubai.

00:35:32.420 And airlines from the United Arab Emirates never stopped flying direct to Israel.

00:35:37.620 In fact, if you wanted to go from Canada, that's probably how you would have wound up going.

00:35:42.500 I find that little anecdote interesting.

00:35:44.620 I think that it'll be interesting to see what happens when the wars, when Abraham Accords round two kicks in.

00:35:54.780 I think Lebanon may be the most hopeful part of that.

00:35:59.640 Lebanon used to be a Christian majority.

00:36:02.600 Now it's a Christian minority, but there's still, they remember what life was like.

00:36:07.080 They used to call Beirut the Paris of the Middle East.

00:36:10.100 I've never been there, but it looks beautiful.

00:36:12.280 And they have had peace.

00:36:15.100 And I think that removing Hezbollah was a favor to many people in Lebanon. 0.98

00:36:20.020 Oh, I agree with you.

00:36:21.160 And I think most Lebanese would agree with you.

00:36:24.120 The problem is that their own non-Hezbollah infrastructure, political infrastructure is weak.

00:36:33.560 It's such a great opportunity now for the country to take back its, you know, its government.

00:36:44.480 And to, if its army could impose themselves in the places where, because Hezbollah is very demoralized.

00:36:52.780 If it's not going to happen now, I don't know, I don't think anybody else can do it for them.

00:36:56.480 You can't, I mean, it would be stupid to ask Israel or any other country to come in and, you know, set them up like to become a client state for any other country.

00:37:06.380 They have to do it. 0.97

00:37:07.800 They can be encouraged.

00:37:08.700 The West should encourage them and do everything they can to stand by Lebanon. 0.96

00:37:14.820 Same with Iran, because Iran is ripe for a revolution again. 0.91

00:37:19.240 The one, you remember Obama did not support the one.

00:37:21.940 Right.

00:37:23.120 The Green Revolution in, was it 19, 2011 or 12?

00:37:29.520 Remember Obama had, they begged America to help them.

00:37:34.800 And, and they, and they were ready to rise up and America, like under Obama said, no, no, no.

00:37:42.020 And, and so, but now Iran is, is weak.

00:37:45.620 And now is a good time for activists to start getting their act together.

00:37:51.480 A lot's going to happen.

00:37:52.580 A lot's going to happen.

00:37:53.780 Yeah, I bet.

00:37:55.120 You know, I mean, Donald Trump was very clear a couple days ago talking about Syria.

00:38:00.100 No U.S. troops are part of his message is to disentangle Americans from the forever war.

00:38:07.180 And it'll be interesting to see how that works.

00:38:10.040 In his first term, it worked wonders.

00:38:12.600 No new wars.

00:38:14.800 Terrorism mopped up.

00:38:16.240 And by the way, neither China nor Russia nor Iran dared do anything because they, they were worried.

00:38:22.440 What would Trump do in response?

00:38:23.720 I actually do think that Trump, I don't know if it'll happen within 24 hours, when he said he'll solve the Russia-Ukraine war, he said he'll do it in a day.

00:38:35.420 I don't know about that, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's done, they're obviously working on it now.

00:38:40.100 Trump and Zelensky met again in Paris at the opening of the cathedral.

00:38:43.880 And that's another thing.

00:38:44.620 Justin Trudeau refused to attend that cathedral.

00:38:47.540 I mean, that was a moment for Christendom, for anyone with a connection to France.

00:38:53.640 You would think that Trudeau, from a French, the largest French city in North America, you would think he would have gone there.

00:39:00.840 Francois Legault went there.

00:39:01.780 Why didn't he?

00:39:02.780 Why didn't he?

00:39:04.460 There's no good reason.

00:39:05.820 I mean, I could come up with my theories as, you know, he doesn't want to seem to be a supporter of the Catholic patriarchal church.

00:39:14.340 I mean, it was a very traditional, like, there was no transgenderism, there was no feminism on display, there was no Black Lives Matter, it was France encapsulated.

00:39:24.360 It was actually a beautiful ceremony.

00:39:26.840 I don't know why he didn't go.

00:39:28.520 Maybe because he, I have no idea why.

00:39:32.880 Because he likes to travel, he likes to go to fancy places.

00:39:36.400 I don't know the real reason he didn't go.

00:39:38.320 He likes to hobnob.

00:39:39.560 He likes to hobnob with, you know.

00:39:42.680 Maybe he feels like he's on the back foot now.

00:39:44.760 He was given a dressing down by Donald Trump, and Trump's arrival there, he was the center of attention, other than the church itself.

00:39:51.660 I don't know.

00:39:52.400 But maybe Trudeau is, for the first time, a little bit adrift and not knowing exactly what to do.

00:39:57.780 I think that the pressure on Trudeau is ramping up.

00:40:01.220 You mentioned how ditzy Melanie Jolie is, and that's very true.

00:40:04.940 And I think Trudeau knows that.

00:40:06.240 He didn't bring her down to the Mar-a-Lago desperation meeting.

00:40:10.280 He brought Dominic LeBlanc, who's probably the closest thing to a competent cabinet minister in Trudeau's circle.

00:40:16.540 He brought his chief of staff.

00:40:18.800 And I'm trying to remember who else he brought.

00:40:21.780 He did not bring the foreign minister.

00:40:23.440 Don't you think that's a bit weird, that you don't bring your foreign minister to meet with the most important foreign leader?

00:40:29.520 But I think he didn't bring Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland, because he knows they hate her.

00:40:34.540 And that was the closest thing to a grown-up dinner that Justin Trudeau had in a long time.

00:40:40.680 Yes, that is interesting.

00:40:42.220 Very interesting.

00:40:43.720 Well, I want to tell you this.

00:40:45.520 I'm more confident about the Middle East than I am about our own country.

00:40:50.660 I'm more confident that Israel can make peace with its neighbors than we can find peace on our streets.

00:40:56.580 And I think in part that's because, as you say, we have terrible moral leadership in this country.

00:41:02.060 I think also because we're continuing to bring in people we don't vet in any way.

00:41:06.880 There are no longer interviews when you immigrate to Canada.

00:41:09.380 You don't have an in-person interview.

00:41:11.940 They don't screen for anything whatsoever.

00:41:14.320 They don't check ideology.

00:41:16.120 They don't check extremism.

00:41:17.680 They don't check anti-Semitism.

00:41:19.480 And you bring over a million people from countries where anti-Semitism is endemic.

00:41:24.380 Like, don't be surprised when you have a lot of Hamas supporters. 0.99

00:41:27.140 We're one of the only two countries in the world stupid enough to bring in migrants from Gaza. 1.00

00:41:32.300 Are you going to be surprised when they... 1.00

00:41:34.320 I know.

00:41:34.820 No.

00:41:35.200 Of course, we're not going to be surprised.

00:41:37.020 But you know what would be the easiest thing to do?

00:41:39.140 You don't even have to have interviews because people can lie in interviews.

00:41:42.500 All you have to do is ask them where they went to school.

00:41:45.940 And then check out those schools and look at their textbooks.

00:41:50.920 Honestly.

00:41:51.700 And you know what these people had been...

00:41:55.440 At least you can't know if they're all, you know, going to have...

00:41:59.840 Like, they all are full of hate or not full of hate.

00:42:02.600 But if they've been brought up in places where all the textbooks are full of hate for another

00:42:08.680 people, then the odds are that they're not going to feel terrific about those other people

00:42:15.240 when they see them in, you know, the majority...

00:42:19.100 I think it's much bigger than textbooks.

00:42:20.300 I mean, remember, a lot of these countries, people don't really have a lot of formal education.

00:42:23.080 I think it's just ubiquitous hatred for the West, hatred for the Jew who is seen as the

00:42:29.820 epitome of the West, the Western enclave in the region.

00:42:34.840 But it is possible to pull it out by the roots.

00:42:39.560 I mean, if you were to ask me which will be a better city to be Jewish in 25 years from

00:42:45.240 now, Montreal or Dubai, I would, you know, I would rather live in Montreal because it's

00:42:51.760 Canada, because it's the country I'm from, because I have memories and history there.

00:42:57.680 But I would be lying if I thought that it would be safer for a Jew in Montreal 25 years 1.00

00:43:02.480 from now than Dubai.

00:43:03.880 I just don't think I could honestly say that it would be.

00:43:07.060 And you see Jewish doctors talking about leaving.

00:43:09.800 This isn't just about Jews.

00:43:11.220 I mean, the Jews are first. 1.00

00:43:12.460 But when hundreds of pro-Hamas activists have a street protest outside the Notre Dame

00:43:18.640 Basilica in Montreal, it's not the Jews they're after now. 1.00

00:43:21.760 It's, as they say, the Saturday people first and then the Sunday people.

00:43:25.380 I don't know.

00:43:26.220 I think these are dark days, but there's a glimmer of sunshine out there, a glimmer of

00:43:30.320 hope in the Middle East and in America.

00:43:32.920 Give me your final thoughts.

00:43:34.480 Are you, is there anything that's cause for giving you some hope or optimism?

00:43:39.640 Uh, yeah, I think I really, honestly, since Donald Trump got elected, and believe me, for a long

00:43:46.620 time I was a never-Trumper because of the obvious things about him, I, and I, I, I felt that his

00:43:51.840 first term was quite chaotic, even though he did a lot of good things.

00:43:55.480 Uh, I was very nervous.

00:43:56.820 I was very nervous about seeing him elected again.

00:43:59.020 But I have to say that because he was elected with such, um, decisiveness, and, uh, when I

00:44:06.520 saw that a lot of people, like blacks and Latinos and people that were unexpected, states turning

00:44:12.680 that hadn't turned before, I said, this, this is a good thing.

00:44:16.740 The people of the United States have majoritarily decided they have had enough of, uh, the kind 0.88

00:44:24.500 of thinking that has dragged, uh, our culture into a kind of despair, disunity, and that is what gives

00:44:33.360 me hope because people listen to America, whether they like America or they don't like America, and I

00:44:39.360 feel hope that, uh, this new administration is going to, uh, is going to bring us to a better place, all

00:44:47.300 of us, whether we like it or not, whether Canadians like, I think a lot of Canadians will like it, but, uh,

00:44:53.240 that's my, that's my source of hope.

00:44:55.560 Yeah.

00:44:55.820 I saw a poll that, um, Donald Trump is now more popular in Canada than Justin Trudeau is

00:45:01.240 popular.

00:45:02.100 That's so, well, that's very good.

00:45:04.220 Okay.

00:45:04.660 That's a surprise.

00:45:06.520 That is.

00:45:06.920 Well, Barbara, it's great to catch up with you.

00:45:08.640 And I love Montreal.

00:45:10.660 How can you not love that city?

00:45:12.280 It's got the best of everything, but it has taken that suicide path of bringing in, of letting 0.80

00:45:18.380 down the drawbridge to let the barbarians in. 1.00

00:45:21.160 And, uh, that never ends well.

00:45:22.920 Great to see you.

00:45:23.560 Keep up the fight, my friend.

00:45:25.020 Same here, Ezra.

00:45:25.940 Good to see you.

00:45:26.720 And you keep up the good fight.

00:45:28.460 You're, you're doing fantastic things.

00:45:30.060 You're all over the globe.

00:45:31.300 And, uh, uh.

00:45:32.500 And I'm out of jail.

00:45:33.820 They, bars, bars couldn't hold me, Barbara.

00:45:37.200 Oh, no.

00:45:37.680 They, they wouldn't want you.

00:45:39.080 They keep you in jail for one day.

00:45:40.660 You'd, you'd get everybody in the jail, like, you know, activate.

00:45:43.700 They'd kick you out.

00:45:44.640 They couldn't, they couldn't handle you.

00:45:47.500 Well, hopefully I won't be arrested again, but you know what?

00:45:50.340 If that's where we are, I mean, I don't know if you followed that at all, but the police

00:45:54.180 literally said my mere presence on the street was inciting others to breach the peace.

00:46:00.420 And, and I, in that moment, I understood why the cops said that.

00:46:04.500 I absolutely disagree with him.

00:46:06.140 But he was saying, let me translate into plain English.

00:46:09.840 This Hamas mob will get violent if I don't take the path of least resistance and move the, the Jewish guy. 1.00

00:46:17.560 So I'm going to do the bidding of the mob because otherwise my job gets hard.

00:46:21.620 That's what he was really saying.

00:46:23.420 That's their orders.

00:46:24.420 I mean, listen, they're, they've, they're following orders.

00:46:26.760 So it goes up the chain, you know, it's not, uh, they didn't come up with this, uh, this

00:46:31.760 idea that we don't arrest anybody from the other side.

00:46:34.320 You know, we, that's their orders.

00:46:36.260 So really bad on our, our leaders.

00:46:41.540 We'll keep it up and hopefully I won't go to the slammer again anytime soon, but if I

00:46:46.000 have to, I will.

00:46:47.060 All right.

00:46:47.620 Take care of my friend.

00:46:48.360 Nice to see you.

00:46:49.780 Keep the Aspidistra flying.

00:46:51.300 All right, there you have it, Barbara Kay, a columnist for the National Post and a good 0.99

00:46:56.180 friend of Rebel News.

00:46:58.240 Well, that's our show for today.

00:47:00.240 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters to you at home,

00:47:04.380 good night and keep fighting for freedom.

00:47:06.840 Good night.

Rebel News Podcast - December 11, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trudeau's Islamist agenda deliberately changed Canada

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