Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trudeau’s cabinet ministers calmly discuss deploying military tanks in response to the trucker convoy

00:00:00.040 Hello, my Rebels. Today, I want to focus on one text message between two Trudeau cabinet ministers, the justice minister and the public safety minister, where they talk about deploying the Canadian military, including tanks, against peaceful trucker protesters. It is astonishing.

00:00:16.620 That's ahead. But first, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus. That's the video version of this podcast. I want you to see it. We make it in video format. It's just eight bucks a month. I do the show every weekday. The eight bucks goes a long way here. You know, that's how we pay a lot of our bills. We don't get money from the government, unlike most Canadian media. And we've been demonetized by YouTube. So we really do rely on your eight dollars. It may not be like, seem like a lot of money to you, but it is.

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00:01:07.620 Tonight, Trudeau's cabinet ministers calmly discussed deploying military tanks in response to the trucker

00:01:15.800 Convoys. November 23rd. This is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:22.800 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:34.580 Hey, before I go any further, let me make sure you know about Rebel News Live. That's our day-long conference

00:01:39.580 conference in Calgary this Saturday. We did it in Toronto last Saturday. It was amazing. We had more

00:01:45.420 than 750 people buy tickets. Most of those were in person, but we also had a Zoom ticket. You could

00:01:51.640 watch the whole proceedings from home. If you are in Calgary or indeed anywhere in Alberta, you got to be

00:01:56.080 there. It's going to be amazing. We've got about a dozen of the most interesting speakers. For example,

00:02:01.440 Arthur Pawlowski, the pastor who refused to close his church and was thrown in prison for almost 50 days.

00:02:06.420 We have the trucker lawyer, Chad Williamson. We've got so many interesting speakers. Conrad Black from

00:02:14.260 the Democracy Fund. He's the historian for civil liberties. He's going to be talking. It's going to

00:02:19.520 be a great day. Light breakfast to start, a lunch. There's so much going on. I'll be there. So many

00:02:26.140 Rebel News journalists. Go to rebelnewslive.com to learn more. Don't mind me making that advertising

00:02:32.180 plug. I just have to say it was an amazing feeling being among so many friends, and I hope you can

00:02:37.900 make it. Okay, let's get back to the news today. I think the news for the rest of the week is going

00:02:43.180 to be this Trucker Commission of Inquiry. How could it not be? It's been police until now saying the same

00:02:48.180 thing a hundred times. There was no policing requirement to bring in martial law. Regular

00:02:54.340 policing powers was more than enough, and the obvious proof of that is the bridge between Windsor and

00:03:01.400 Detroit. The blockade there was removed peacefully in two days without martial law. The blockade at

00:03:08.680 the Coutts border between Alberta and Montana was ended peacefully without the Emergencies Act

00:03:14.220 martial law. Not a single police force in the country said they needed it or said they asked for it.

00:03:22.360 It's been an interesting testimony, but it's been repetitive. Now that's changing because we're not

00:03:26.720 talking about cops who were hopefully loyal to their oath. We're talking about politicians who are

00:03:32.080 scared of being exposed as power-hungry tyrants, which they have been. Marco Mendocino, the public

00:03:39.960 safety minister, David Lamedi, the justice minister. But in addition to their testimony, what this

00:03:45.960 commission of inquiry is doing is producing documents, documents that the lawyers, both for the commission and

00:03:53.360 interveners like the JCCF and the Democracy Fund, these lawyers get privileged access to these documents in advance

00:04:00.780 from which they can form their questions for these witnesses. And the reason that's important,

00:04:07.300 if you were just talking to the Minister of Public Safety about the Emergencies Act, you could ask general

00:04:11.700 questions, but by seeing their internal records first, you could zero in on particular things. It makes it much more

00:04:18.540 useful and it's fascinating to see. These documents are posted to the public commission's website.

00:04:24.480 And this document I'm going to focus on today is a text message exchange between David Lamedi,

00:04:31.160 the justice minister, and Marco Mendocino, the public safety minister. And the reason it's so fascinating

00:04:35.660 is what they said. But an extra layer of fascinating is that we would never normally see this. As you know,

00:04:43.780 Rebel News files a lot of access to information requests with the government. But there's a lot of

00:04:48.320 exemptions in access to information requests. One of them is that the political staff and the

00:04:56.740 political communications of the prime minister's office and the cabinet ministers and MPs, that is

00:05:02.280 not disclosable under an access to information request. You cannot know what an MP is texting with

00:05:08.660 his staff. You just cannot get it. But this is not an access to information request. This is a subpoena

00:05:14.480 by a judge in a judicial inquiry. And you've got to hand it over. This is very rare that you see this

00:05:23.000 kind of internal chit-chat like that. And of course, it's where the real stuff is. An official memo is

00:05:29.220 written thinking, well, this may well be seen by either many people in private or in public. An official

00:05:36.540 memo is probably written with the help of professional staff. But a text message between a couple of cabinet

00:05:43.060 ministers, they're going to speak very plainly. They'll say things that they never in a million

00:05:47.380 years would imagine to be showed in public. Well, let me show you this text message exchanged between

00:05:52.800 Lamedi and Mendocino. You need to get the police to move. Oh, I didn't know that politicians directed

00:06:00.840 the police. At least they're not supposed to in a democracy. And the Canadian Armed Forces, if necessary.

00:06:07.200 Oh, really? So we deploy our military against peaceful domestic citizens. Our military that's 0.55

00:06:16.120 trained to kill enemy soldiers designed to fight foreign governments, we're going to deploy that 0.84

00:06:20.760 against bouncy castles and hot tubs, are we? Against men, women, and children, are we? Completely

00:06:27.240 peaceful. Order the cops to intervene. Order the army to intervene. Too many people are being seriously,

00:06:34.440 adversely impacted by what is an occupation. I'm getting out as soon as I can. What a courageous

00:06:41.500 man, our justice minister. He's so courageous. He's panicking and he's going to flee the city,

00:06:48.180 so bravely run away. People are looking to us, you, for leadership and not stupid people. People like

00:06:58.120 Carney, CAF, my team. Oh, they're the smartest. Carney. I take it that's Mark Carney.

00:07:07.040 Mark Carney, formerly the head of the Bank of England. Mark Carney now works for the United

00:07:10.800 Nations. Mark Carney has no standing. He's not a Canadian official at all. He's not an elected

00:07:16.080 official. He's not a cabinet minister. He's not a judge. He's just some politician. He's some

00:07:21.000 globalist who works for, frankly, the UN. Who cares what he says? What does the Canadian 1.00

00:07:27.480 constitution say about freedom of speech? Who cares that some globalist who doesn't have any

00:07:33.140 roots in Canada, who's flying around the world working for the UN, who cares what he says? And

00:07:38.240 Cath? Is that Catherine McKenna? Is that what Lemeney thinks is a smart person? 1.00

00:07:43.520 And in response, Mandacino says, how many tanks are you asking for? I just want to ask Anita,

00:07:52.980 that's Anita Anand, the defense minister, how many we've got on hand? I reckon one will do.

00:08:00.900 Yeah, because, of course, you probably wouldn't shoot a tank in Ottawa. It would blow things up. You

00:08:10.940 would, if you really, if you really seriously deployed a tank, you would probably do it

00:08:16.380 in the manner of Tiananmen Square, where they use the tanks to simply

00:08:21.100 drive on their peaceful democracy protesters. Remember this terrifying image from Tiananmen

00:08:30.340 Square, where they gather to protest for democracy outside their parliament buildings. It's not really

00:08:35.420 a parliament. They don't have democratically elected legislators in China, but it's the

00:08:40.060 communist headquarters. That's where the democracy activists were, and they deployed the tanks to

00:08:46.540 crush them, to drive over them. That's what Marco Mendocino and David Lemeney were talking about.

00:08:55.020 You know, when people tell you who they are, it's best to listen to them.

00:09:00.060 When he was running for office before he was even an MP, Justin Trudeau went to a fundraising event,

00:09:07.180 and they asked him, what country do you most admire? Without missing a beat, he said China. And he

00:09:13.500 explained it wasn't for their language or their culture or their history or their food or any of

00:09:18.140 that. It was for their basic dictatorship. Here's that clip. There's a level of admiration I actually

00:09:25.500 have for China. Because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy 0.94

00:09:35.340 around on a dime and say, we need to go green as fast as we need to start, you know, investing in

00:09:39.820 solar. I mean, there is a flexibility that I know Stephen Harper must dream about of having a dictatorship

00:09:45.180 that he could do everything he wanted. And just in case you didn't think he meant it when

00:09:50.300 the tyrant Fidel Castro died. Well, there was a loving eulogy made for him, the mass murderer by

00:09:57.900 Justin Trudeau. Remember that? The fact is, Fidel Castro had a deep and lasting impact on the Cuban

00:10:05.900 people. He certainly was a polarizing figure, and there certainly were significant concerns around

00:10:12.780 human rights. That's something that I'm open about and that I've highlighted. But on the passing of his

00:10:18.380 death, I expressed a statement that highlighted the deep connection between the people of Canada

00:10:27.180 and the people of Cuba. And at the same time, Canadians know that I always talk about human

00:10:33.580 rights, including here yesterday, including with Raul Castro two weeks ago, including wherever I go

00:10:40.940 around the world. I believe in positive, constructive engagement in the world, and that means being open

00:10:47.020 and direct in our assessments, in our challenges, in our points of disagreement, while at the same

00:10:53.580 time being consistent with the kind of respect that Canadians expect from their prime minister.

00:10:59.740 Yeah. So it's no surprise that that's the same idea, the same ideology that infects the whole cabinet.

00:11:06.700 You know, I remember, I'm old enough to remember, that there was a liberal attack ad

00:11:12.060 deployed against the conservatives. It was laughable at the time. Remember this one saying,

00:11:17.740 if you vote for conservatives, there will be soldiers in our streets in Canada. Remember this one?

00:11:30.060 Stephen Harper actually announced he wants to increase military presence in our cities.

00:11:35.740 Canadian cities, Canadian cities, soldiers with guns, in our cities, in Canada.

00:11:49.420 We did not make this up.

00:11:53.900 Choose your Canada.

00:11:55.740 Yeah, no, it wasn't conservatives who did that. It was the liberals who were talking about rolling out

00:12:02.140 tanks. And of course, Chrystia Freeland, who was musing about having soldiers dressing up as police,

00:12:08.540 falsely, and going out as police. Of course, the thing about soldiers, like I say, they're trained to

00:12:14.220 kill foreign enemies. They're not trained to be law enforcement officers using the least force 0.92

00:12:18.780 possible, understanding civil liberties, how to arrest someone, how not to, using their discretion.

00:12:23.340 To make a soldier, a policeman, makes no sense at all, other than, I suppose, both,

00:12:29.500 you would hope would be fit, you know, strong individuals who know how to use a weapon. But

00:12:33.820 after that, the similar similarities are completely missing. Imagine sending the military in to crush

00:12:42.380 a peaceful protest. This is what they're talking about. The weird thing is that it's only against

00:12:47.980 peaceful protesters that they hate. There are peaceful protesters in Canada all the time,

00:12:53.260 and sometimes they're not so peaceful. Black lives matter. A couple years ago, the railway blockades,

00:13:02.220 those were violating property, and had the trains been derailed by the blockades, it would have

00:13:08.460 caused death. There was no call for soldiers in the streets or tanks back then, because those were

00:13:14.780 the protesters on Trudeau's side. The craziest thing, and I think it's a way to understand liberals,

00:13:22.140 is they project what they are onto you. In this case, they were saying that the truckers were extreme,

00:13:32.780 but they were the ones talking about fleeing the city and how many tanks do we have.

00:13:37.340 They were saying the truckers were violent. They were not. They were the ones preaching violence.

00:13:45.260 I mentioned this the other day. There were thousands of people in Ottawa,

00:13:50.460 thousands of protesters, thousands of police. Only one person was shot during the Ottawa convoy,

00:13:58.860 and it was our reporter Alexa Lavoie. Remember this terrible clip? Hey, can I ask you a question?

00:14:08.860 What are the odds that of all the thousands of people in Ottawa who were shot,

00:14:14.380 that it just happened to be a rebel news reporter? What are the odds of that?

00:14:20.140 But like I say, the liberals project things onto you. They say you're violent when they shoot you.

00:14:25.100 They say that you take foreign funding from, oh, say, Vladimir Putin. Remember when the

00:14:30.780 CBC state broadcaster said Putin was behind the truckers? Remember this?

00:14:34.220 I do ask that because given Canada's support of Ukraine in this current crisis with Russia,

00:14:42.300 I don't know if it's far-fetched to ask, but there is concern that Russian actors could be continuing

00:14:49.580 to fuel things as this protest grows, but perhaps even instigating it from the outset.

00:14:55.740 Yeah, that's called projection. As we recently learned, it was the Liberal Party who was being

00:15:01.900 financed by the government of China, something that Trudeau doesn't want to talk about right now.

00:15:08.700 Pierre Trudeau brought in martial law too. At least in his case, it was in response to an actual

00:15:14.700 terrorist group, the FLQ, a separatist movement that was detonating bombs, kidnapping people, even

00:15:21.980 committed murder. But Pierre Trudeau, when he invoked martial law, he didn't stop there.

00:15:28.540 His RCMB burnt down barns belonging to his political enemies. Hundreds of people were arrested,

00:15:34.860 not for terrorism, but for opposing Trudeau. I think Justin Trudeau learned that from his father.

00:15:41.820 They project these liberals. To them, they talk about the charter, but it means nothing when it

00:15:48.060 comes to limiting their own misconduct. Everything the liberals accuse you of doing

00:15:55.340 is really a psychological projection of themselves. Justin Trudeau says you're a racist.

00:16:00.940 He's the one who dressed up in blackface so many times he lost count. He's the one who says he's the 0.98

00:16:05.740 feminist and you're the sexist. But he was the one who basically confessed to sexually assaulting

00:16:12.060 Rose Knight. But hey, she just experienced it differently. You know what's so fascinating about

00:16:19.180 this tank revelation? If it were a conservative who said this, it would be a resignation. It would be

00:16:26.140 nonstop charges of fascism and political violence and extremism. This will be laughed off. Oh, they were

00:16:33.580 just bantering. They didn't mean it in a private exchange that they never thought would be seen

00:16:38.700 public. The regime media back in February was carrying Trudeau's water, saying Putin was behind it. And

00:16:45.740 they're doing that again now. This is an incredible text message. But you can only imagine what is behind

00:16:53.740 the redactions and the blackouts and the texts that they won't release. Oh, well. We're almost done

00:17:02.700 the Trucker Commission inquiry. And by the way, if you're not going to truckercommission.com, you're

00:17:06.460 missing out. What will the judge do? The judge doesn't have the power to jail anyone here. It's really a

00:17:14.780 fact-finding inquiry. I think that the judge just has to find that this Emergencies Act invocation of martial

00:17:23.980 law was not legally justified. Remember the test. That there is a danger to Canadian citizens or

00:17:30.220 sovereignty so grave that it is a true public emergency that cannot be solved with other laws. I don't think

00:17:39.100 there's any way that the facts so far can justify it. But so what? So he says that Trudeau had no basis.

00:17:52.460 So he says this was a gross political power grab. So what? Trudeau's already, as much as said,

00:18:01.660 he doesn't care what the judge says. Remember this?

00:18:04.300 The inquiry that starts today, 65 witnesses over 30 days. You know, when it's all wrapped up and

00:18:08.540 the commissioner, if he finds that there was no justification for the federal government to

00:18:14.300 invoke the Emergencies Act, should there be consequences for the federal government,

00:18:17.660 including your resignation? But we knew from the very beginning

00:18:21.260 that invoking the Emergencies Act is a big step. It had never been done before. But given these

00:18:27.020 unprecedented illegal protests, we needed to take action. We took it in a way that was measured,

00:18:32.540 that was responsible, that was time limited. And we knew full well that there needed to be a public

00:18:38.380 inquiry. Canadians need that level of transparency and accountability. And that's why we launched this

00:18:44.220 inquiry. That's why I'm so happy to be that I offered from the beginning to be part of,

00:18:49.660 part of appearing at this commission. And we're going to make sure that Canadians see

00:18:54.460 the situation we were facing and how the tools we used were appropriate.

00:18:57.900 It's found that there was no justification for it. Again, what should the consequences be for that?

00:19:02.620 I think the important thing is for Canadians to understand the situation we were in and the choices

00:19:10.380 we make. We didn't enter into using the Emergencies Act lightly. We used it with a sense of it was the

00:19:18.140 necessary tool at the time. We used it in a way that was measured and proportionate. And we're really

00:19:24.700 pleased that the commission is going to be able to hear from all these witnesses. And that was why

00:19:29.180 I offered to appear. Of course he's not going to resign. Justin Trudeau is being convicted of

00:19:34.940 breaking more laws than any other prime minister in Canadian history. I'm referring to the conflict

00:19:39.580 of interest laws, taking $100,000 bribes from lobbyists, for example, at a free vacation on

00:19:44.940 Billionaire Island in the Bahamas. He laughs about that. When he's caught sexually assaulting Rose

00:19:50.300 Knight, he says it's an opportunity for us all to reflect on how to be better feminists.

00:19:55.580 Justin Trudeau violated our basic civil liberties. He made Canadian democracy weaker. He destroyed it,

00:20:02.780 he destroyed it, not the truckers. They saved it. And when he is convicted or denounced or found to have

00:20:09.900 done so by this judge, which I think will happen, he'll laugh about it. And the media party that he

00:20:17.340 finances, well, they'll laugh right along with him. Stay with us for more.

00:20:35.180 Well, social media censorship is always in the news. And of course, Elon Musk's

00:20:39.820 privatization, his purchase of Twitter has thrust those issues to the fore once more.

00:20:45.180 As you know, he has reinstated some conservative, almost all of them have been conservative. I don't

00:20:52.540 know any liberals who were suspended. He's reinstated conservative accounts on Twitter,

00:20:57.660 including Donald Trump, who has not yet used his, but a lot of other people, including James Lindsay,

00:21:04.060 with whom we spoke yesterday, have been reinstated. And it shines a light on the murky world of

00:21:10.620 contracting out censorship. What I mean by that is government not passing a law or a regulation or

00:21:17.660 sending a cop to censor someone, but rather quietly behind the scenes in an email or a phone call,

00:21:24.540 government, big government calling big tech and giving a list of undesirables that then the tech

00:21:30.860 companies censor, all of it under the radar, none of it appealable, none of it transparent,

00:21:36.940 as is normally the case with government interactions. Well, there is a case of foot right now in the

00:21:43.660 United States dealing with the White House and in particular, the former press secretary,

00:21:49.580 Jen Psaki, directing social media companies to suspend or throttle the government's blacklist of

00:22:00.540 pundits. And this lawsuit is taking place in the state of Louisiana. And the lawyer for the

00:22:08.460 plaintiffs is our friend Janine Younis. And she joins us now from Washington, where she's with

00:22:13.820 the new civil abuse alliance. Janine, did I properly sum up the case? I don't think I really summed it up

00:22:17.580 well. Welcome. First of all, welcome. Great to see you again. Give me a one minute background to fix any

00:22:22.460 errors I made there. You're suing because the government in league with big tech silenced a bunch of

00:22:27.980 people, especially COVID skeptics. Am I right? That's more or less it. I will correct a couple

00:22:33.740 of things. First of all, I wouldn't say that Jen Psaki is the main defendant. She was the main

00:22:38.700 person of interest in the hearing that took place on Friday. I believe we'll get to later. But

00:22:42.540 we're suing a lot of people, including the president himself, DHS, CDC, a lot of agencies that

00:22:47.660 were clearly involved in this censorship. And what we're arguing isn't just that the tech companies were

00:22:52.140 working with the social media, sorry, the government was working with the social media companies,

00:22:56.140 telling them who and what to censor, which it was. But we're arguing that they were really coercing

00:23:00.300 the companies to do that, which makes it I think in both cases, it's a First Amendment violation.

00:23:05.500 But I think that makes it a clearer First Amendment violation when the government is threatening

00:23:09.420 tech companies with negative consequences if they don't censor according to its directives.

00:23:15.340 Well, that's stunning. Now, I have always had the prejudice

00:23:18.540 that tech companies typically are left to center. So there wouldn't be a lot of arm twisting necessary

00:23:26.780 to silence people traditionally called conservative or reactionary. And of course, for some weird

00:23:33.020 reason, and I know you personally found it odd that liberals and people who in the past have said,

00:23:37.900 my body, my choice, were suddenly not just pro-vaccine, but pro-vaccine mandate. But for whatever reason,

00:23:45.500 I think the left said we are going to get behind vaccine mandates. The reason I mention this is it's

00:23:52.460 surprising to me that the government would have to force or pressure or coerce big tech to do what I

00:23:58.220 think some of them would have naturally done. Can you tell us a little bit more about that? What is your

00:24:02.140 theory? Or I don't know if you have evidence or if there's something you can point to. What is it that

00:24:08.780 and how did the government threaten big tech? Because I would have thought big tech loved to do this.

00:24:15.340 Well, you know, I think especially Twitter is sort of considered a free speech haven or has been for

00:24:21.180 a long time. And I think that the company sort of profits from that. I mean, if you go to the places

00:24:25.340 like Gab or Getter, which are sort of now right wing hubs, or the Mastodon is now the left wing,

00:24:29.980 it's pretty boring because it's sort of an echo chamber of people talking to each other, I think,

00:24:33.980 who all agree. Whereas when you go to Twitter, it's interesting because you're engaging with your

00:24:38.460 opponents. And so I think that is actually a profitable business model. And so Twitter was

00:24:45.020 not really censoring based on viewpoint for most of its existence. So the reason that we know that

00:24:51.660 the federal government has been behind a lot of, especially the COVID-19 censorship of views that

00:24:56.300 oppose the governments is that, first of all, they made public statements. So the

00:24:59.820 president himself, through his press secretary, Psaki as well, and the surgeon general, Vivek Murthy,

00:25:09.580 Alejandro Mayorkas, who's the secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, they said that

00:25:14.060 social media companies aren't doing enough to censor dangerous and for misinformation about COVID,

00:25:18.540 like those who question the vaccines, the efficacy, safety, those who think maybe not everybody needs to

00:25:23.820 get them, those who question the efficacy of masks, those who think the harms of lockdowns are

00:25:28.540 greater than the benefits. So they have gone on record saying that companies aren't doing enough

00:25:32.620 to censor them and that they will be held accountable with legal consequences if they

00:25:36.380 don't do more. So that's obvious. I mean, that's a threat. And that's not allowed under the First

00:25:41.340 Amendment. But we've also been permitted to get discovery in this case by the judge. He found that

00:25:45.660 that was enough to allow us to get internal documents, internal communications between the tech companies and the

00:25:51.820 government. And that has sort of substantiated our position, because there are emails there

00:25:58.140 saying things like, for instance, you have Jen Easterly from DHS, texting another CESA,

00:26:04.860 CESA as a sub agency in DHS, texting another CESA employee, although he went to work at Microsoft,

00:26:10.460 not clear if he was at Microsoft at the time, about this problem of misinformation. And then he says,

00:26:16.140 yeah, we've really got to overcome tech companies' hesitation to work with the government.

00:26:19.580 And then you have the Surgeon General texting a very high up person at Facebook,

00:26:24.380 that Facebook isn't doing enough to censor misinformation. And then the Facebook employee

00:26:29.660 is saying, we're feeling really aggrieved. We don't want to be accused of killing people.

00:26:33.660 And then a week later, okay, we removed the disinformation dozen pursuant to your request.

00:26:39.020 We've escalated our censorship policies. So it's very clear that they're responding to these threats.

00:26:44.340 Wow. Now, did you get these internal documents from the government,

00:26:47.420 from the tech companies, or from both?

00:26:49.580 Both. The judge ordered the government to turn over documents that contain various search terms

00:26:55.340 in between various individuals that we named based on the information we had. And then in a sort of rare

00:26:59.820 move, he ordered discovery on the third parties. And actually, that was quite interesting because the

00:27:04.380 government had clearly not been entirely forthcoming about the number of officials and agencies that were

00:27:10.060 involved in this. We learned it was a vaster censorship enterprise of the federal government than we had

00:27:16.140 previously thought because of the information that tech companies gave us.

00:27:19.820 Yeah. And that's the thing is you're relying on the honesty and the ethics and the technical skill of the

00:27:26.380 government to turn over relevant documents. They might, you know, honestly do a search incorrectly,

00:27:31.900 or they might just choose not to disclose the most embarrassing things. If you have a second,

00:27:37.500 if you have the second party in a conversation, it's more likely you'll get all the info. That's very interesting.

00:27:43.440 So, um, this hearing is in Louisiana. Is that right? How did Louisiana get jurisdiction here? Is that

00:27:51.280 important or was it just, could have been any state?

00:27:53.380 So, um, the, one of the plaintiffs that I'm representing lives in Louisiana. So the lawsuit

00:27:59.300 was brought by the Missouri's, uh, sorry, the attorneys general of Missouri and Louisiana,

00:28:03.460 and then, um, NCLA and I are representing private plaintiffs, one of whom lives in Louisiana. So that

00:28:08.980 allows for it to be filed there. Um, the, that area, the fifth circuit, you might have judges that

00:28:16.100 would tend to be more favorable than some other places in the country.

00:28:18.900 Well, you know what? I, it used to be that freedom of speech was a liberal value, left-wing

00:28:25.460 value. So your statement there that judges there might be more favorable. I don't even know if that

00:28:30.260 means they're liberal or conservative because traditionally I remember growing up and it was

00:28:34.660 the left that really, really was on guard for free speech. Um, now let me come back to Jen Sackie

00:28:41.220 because, uh, you've clarified that she is not the center of things, but she is perhaps, uh, um,

00:28:47.140 I, I recall that, that she was one of the people ringing the alarm, uh, about too much free speech

00:28:53.780 and social media. Um, she said she did not want to come and be deposed. She didn't want to be 0.82

00:29:00.580 subpoenaed. If I'm, I'm not sure the, the legal vocabulary that would apply to Louisiana. In this

00:29:06.180 case, the judge said, well, you've got to come and sure it's an inconvenience, but it's an inconvenience

00:29:09.940 for anyone. Come and answer questions. Is that right? So she tried to evade this, but a judge said,

00:29:15.060 no, you come and answer. It's close. Uh, it's a little bit complicated. So the federal rules of

00:29:20.980 civil procedure in the United States say that you cannot require a witness to go more than a hundred

00:29:25.620 miles to be deposed. So even though this case is in Louisiana, because she lives in Virginia,

00:29:30.180 um, she was going to be deposed in Virginia and you can move to squash the subpoena. That's 1.00

00:29:35.140 get rid of the subpoena or order saying that you have to be deposed in the jurisdiction where you're

00:29:39.940 going to be deposed, which the government did. It was sort of a clever move because they wanted to get a

00:29:43.780 second bite at the apple. Essentially they hoped to draw a favorable judge who would second guess

00:29:47.780 the Louisiana judge's opinion. So we had a hearing on that, uh, this past Friday and it didn't go for

00:29:53.220 the government the way they wanted. Um, the, uh, the judge did not like their, um, contentions that

00:29:59.300 she was sort of, her time was too precious. They, the judge, you know, noted that she claimed it was

00:30:03.300 an undue burden, but she couldn't point to anything specific. You know, I mean, it's, it's a burden to

00:30:07.780 anybody. Nobody wants to sit and be deposed for eight hours. And, um, uh, he noted, he also noted

00:30:14.500 the allegations were serious. He sort of, uh, implied that he thought there was enough evidence

00:30:18.420 in the record to substantiate them. But ultimately what he did was he sent it back to Louisiana. He

00:30:22.580 said that judge knows the case. Um, then you shouldn't get a second bite at the apple. And so

00:30:26.980 he sent it back and then the Louisiana judge, um, you know, did not, he, he did not quash the subpoena.

00:30:32.980 So she has to be deposed now. Got it. So, uh, the Virginia judge, which was going to be, 0.94

00:30:38.020 I guess you could call that forum shopping. Perhaps she thought she would have a more sympathetic judge

00:30:41.940 in Virginia, but he wasn't buying. And he said, no, no, you're not getting an escape route. And,

00:30:46.100 and so, so that, that sounds like it was a bit of good luck. And, and she, and her exit plan didn't

00:30:52.020 work. Her escape plan didn't work. Yeah, that exactly. Although, so now she's filing for a right of

00:30:56.740 mandamus, which is, that's the mechanism through which you appeal, sort of appeal a deposition order.

00:31:01.860 So she's fine. She is going to file that in the fifth circuit very soon. So we'll see what happens

00:31:07.300 there. So it's pretty clear. She doesn't want to answer questions. And I can imagine because she

00:31:12.180 really, I mean, she was more than just a spokesperson. She really, uh, was tantamount to a chief of staff. 0.88

00:31:18.900 I mean, she, I think she had her fingers in more pies and wasn't just a, a talker. I think she was a

00:31:24.740 decider. Uh, I, I think it's, it's fairly conventional to say that Jen Psaki was a super 0.99

00:31:30.420 staffer and she probably has a lot of things she knows and a lot of things she did in this file. 1.00

00:31:36.740 She wasn't just a fly on the wall. She was a doer. That's my theory. That's why I think she's fighting

00:31:41.060 so hard. Well, it's interesting because she said one of the reasons it was an undue burden was that

00:31:45.780 she wouldn't just have to sit for the seven hours of deposition, but that she would have to take days to

00:31:49.860 prepare. And the judge said, well, first you're saying she doesn't, you know, she doesn't know

00:31:53.620 anything. And now you're saying it takes two to three days to prepare. If she doesn't know anything,

00:31:56.340 why does it take two to three days to prepare?

00:31:59.940 Well, that's very interesting. Uh, Gina, this is a great case. I'm so glad you're doing it.

00:32:04.900 And I've been thinking about these things a lot because as Elon Musk goes into the company and sort of

00:32:09.940 flips off the censorship switches that were flipped on, um, I think we're learning a lot more about

00:32:17.620 how censorship worked in Twitter. What are the companies that were targeted? You mentioned

00:32:22.100 Facebook. Did they also target Twitter? Did they target YouTube and Google? Uh, did they talk to

00:32:29.220 TikTok? What do, is there a list of big tech companies, uh, that are part of your lawsuit?

00:32:36.100 Um, so, I mean, the tech companies aren't named as defendants, so they're, you know, I wouldn't say

00:32:41.220 part of the lawsuit, but the ones that we have evidence that they, um, were in communication with

00:32:46.420 extensively are Twitter, Facebook, uh, Google, YouTube, and LinkedIn. Um, I don't believe that

00:32:53.220 there are more at this time, but I, uh, my understanding too, is that we asked, we could

00:32:58.580 only choose five companies to get a discovery from or get the communications from, and we chose those.

00:33:04.580 So it may be that we only have those communications because we didn't ask for other companies. So I

00:33:09.060 don't know if there could be more involved. Well, those are, those are the big ones. I mean,

00:33:11.940 Google owns YouTube. Facebook owns Instagram. Uh, Twitter really is the political town square. I,

00:33:17.620 I think you've got the big ones there. I'm going to be fascinated. I'm going to have a very keen

00:33:20.980 interest in what YouTube says, because of course we were the largest independent YouTube channel

00:33:26.420 in Canada by, by a mile. Um, we never broke any of the rules. We never got strikes. We never engaged

00:33:31.860 in profanity or, or, or violence or, or anything like that. But when the pandemic set in,

00:33:38.340 because we were skeptical, we weren't, we weren't nutty about it. We didn't talk about

00:33:42.500 microchips planted in your brain or anything, but just general skepticism towards lockdownism,

00:33:48.980 uh, they pummeled us. They took, took away our monetization and it'll be very interesting.

00:33:53.700 Keep your eyes peeled. If the word rebel news comes up, I'm not even kidding because although

00:33:59.380 we're based in Canada, Janine, we have a lot of viewers in the States and, and we really were

00:34:03.940 skeptics of lockdownism from the beginning. If you come across our name in those, in those records

00:34:09.380 that you get, let me know. I'd like to see if Jen Psaki or others was hunting for us. 0.75

00:34:14.340 I sure will.

00:34:16.340 Well, listen, good luck. It's a delight to have you on the show. It sounds like you're having

00:34:19.940 some good luck. Although, uh, Jen Psaki is trying to, to run away again. Um, give us 30 seconds on the 1.00

00:34:27.460 NCLA, the new civil liberties Alliance. I love the name of your law firm because it really is true.

00:34:32.660 There's a new coalition of people who care about civil liberties. And unfortunately,

00:34:36.740 some of the old coalition doesn't seem to care so much anymore. Give me just one minute on other

00:34:41.140 things that you guys are doing in the fight for freedom. Sure. Um, so our core mission is fighting

00:34:46.500 the administrative state, which I think is responsible for, um, many of the civil liberties, American, uh,

00:34:51.940 violations that Americans experience. Now I have a suit right now in California on behalf of five

00:34:57.300 doctors who are challenging a new law that says that permits the board, the medical board to, uh,

00:35:03.060 subject to discipline doctors who disseminate to patients, misinformation about COVID. Um,

00:35:07.860 and that can be in the form of treatment or advice. So we're arguing that's a first amendment

00:35:11.300 violation, um, and has a profound chilling effect because doctors don't know, uh, what departs from

00:35:18.020 the scientific consensus, which that's how it's defined anything that departs from the scientific

00:35:21.700 consensus. Um, we are challenging the student loan forgiveness program on the grounds that the

00:35:27.060 president does not have the authority as the executive to, um, just forgive student loans on

00:35:32.500 mass. Um, we have another great case about, uh, in Massachusetts tracking, um, there, there was an

00:35:39.300 app that downloaded onto people's phones without their permission. And if you tested positive for

00:35:43.620 COVID or you contact came into contact with someone who did, it would send an alert to your phone.

00:35:49.060 So we're arguing that was an unlawful like search basically, because they were tracking you without

00:35:52.740 your consent. Uh, so yeah, we have lots of really interesting cases, lots of vaccine mandate cases

00:35:57.300 that are still percolating through, um, on appeal. And, uh, some, some of which actually haven't been

00:36:02.260 decided even at the lower court level yet. You know, it's funny. Our Supreme Court of Canada

00:36:06.740 has not yet heard a single case emanating from the lockdowns of the pandemic. Can you believe

00:36:11.460 they have not heard they're busy doing more important things. Um, I'd say, I wish we had the NCLA up

00:36:17.140 here in Canada. We have a few good organizations, the democracy fund, which, which we like to support,

00:36:21.540 and of course the justice center for constitutional freedoms, just crazy stuff up here. Janine,

00:36:25.700 you wouldn't even believe it. The college of physicians and surgeons in Ontario now has advice

00:36:30.340 to doctors that if they face someone who is hesitant about vaccines, that they should prescribe

00:36:34.820 sedation. They should give that person psychiatric drugs, uh, or, or basically,

00:36:40.660 basically give them a valium to overcome their thoughtful objection. There's terrifying things

00:36:46.580 going on here. Um, I'm so glad you're fighting for freedom down there and hopefully we'll have

00:36:51.300 a knock on effect up here because, because things aren't quite as free as they should be in Canada.

00:36:55.460 Oh, Canada has really, uh, surprised me with this.

00:36:58.820 Yeah, well, it's, uh, I wish I could say we're surprised, but, but we're not. Great to see you,

00:37:03.620 my friend Janine Younis, fighting hard for freedom at the new civil liberties alliance. Keep in touch,

00:37:08.500 look forward to your successes. Look forward to keeping in touch.

00:37:11.620 Thank you so much, Ezra.

00:37:12.900 All right. There you have it. Stay with us. Your letters to me next.

00:37:27.060 Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me. Pizza for Life says,

00:37:30.420 should that even be allowed in such short notice? Why aren't there deadlines for this sort of thing

00:37:34.660 to account for time needed to review documents? Trudeau is the fall of Canada. The black mark,

00:37:39.860 literally and figuratively. You're talking about the black marks, the blacked out documents that are

00:37:45.380 being dumped on the commission at the last minute. Well, what are you going to do? You're going to throw,

00:37:50.340 I mean, in a real court, this kind of misconduct by lawyers could result in some sort of consequences.

00:37:57.860 Illegal pleading being struck out. Theoretically, a lawyer being held in contempt. Someone losing a

00:38:06.820 lawsuit. Fines being ordered or costs being ordered. But none of that really applies here. This judge

00:38:13.780 can't throw someone in jail for contempt. I guess he could, but really he's time limited. He has a few

00:38:19.700 more days left and who's going to hold Trudeau to account? It's a joke and Trudeau knows it.

00:38:26.260 Suzanne Paquette writes, Marco Mendocino can't hide how nervous he is. He is sweating bullets and

00:38:32.980 holding back tears and fears of what is coming. Yeah, you know, I was listening to Sheila describe

00:38:38.020 Marco Mendocino. He's sort of awkward and really creepy. And we saw in other text messages that were

00:38:45.140 released that his own staff did not respect him. His own cabinet laughed at him and simply ignored him.

00:38:51.620 They knew he was not a decision maker. Literally, I don't know if you remember this,

00:38:56.100 his deputy minister wrote some report about this policing here, circulated it to other offices,

00:39:01.300 didn't even show it to Mendocino himself. No one takes Mendocino seriously. It's really embarrassing.

00:39:08.740 Science versus bigotry says, just wait for the in-camera evidence. It will probably be the way out for

00:39:14.340 Trudeau. What you're referring to is some evidence that is considered sensitive. And so it's being

00:39:20.660 shown to the judge, but without the public there. Well, I don't think we'll ever see that in-camera

00:39:25.140 evidence, will we? That's the whole point of it being in-camera. That means in the room closed.

00:39:31.700 Tanks in our streets. The liberals talked about deploying tanks against you and me.

00:39:36.500 That's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:39:43.060 to you at home, good night. And keep fighting for freedom.

00:39:46.180 This is Callum Smiles for Rebel News, just outside of Heathrow Airport,

00:39:50.340 where we've come to check out multiple migrant hotels. There are reportedly over 200 migrant hotels

00:39:56.820 in the entire United Kingdom. But the ones at Heathrow have recently hit the headlines.

00:40:01.380 So we thought we'd come and check them out for ourselves. Here's the report.

00:40:04.660 Now, journalists are normally kept well away by security from these sorts of places.

00:40:11.540 But I thought I'd try my luck and see what I can discover and take you on a tour of some of

00:40:15.780 Britain's migrant hotels. First up on today's tour, the Crown Plaza on Stockley Road, just a 10 minute

00:40:22.340 drive from Heathrow Airport. This has been jokingly referred to online as Little Albania,

00:40:28.340 because apparently it is now home to several hundred Albanians who made the illegal crossing in small

00:40:34.100 boats. It's important to remember that this is one of hundreds of hotels across the country

00:40:39.220 being filled with migrants at the taxpayer's expense. The British taxpayer is currently paying 1.00

00:40:45.380 more than £6 million a day on hotels alone. So across the country, there have been local authorities

00:40:52.660 up in arms saying it's not appropriate to house migrants in tourist hotspots. And that's why some might

00:40:58.500 think locations like this would be perfect. It's out of the way. It's the kind of place you wouldn't

00:41:04.020 stay for long and it's a place where international residents wouldn't stand out as much.

00:41:08.340 Now, the Crown Plaza Hotel is a well-known chain of hotels and this one in particular offers a great

00:41:13.620 range of facilities, including a fitness centre, gym, conference rooms and a bar. This all sounds rather

00:41:21.460 nice, but that hasn't stopped campaigners claiming the hotels aren't enough and that they are dangerous.

00:41:28.100 What I found in the hotel was very typical of what you'd expect. The migrants are bored. They can't 1.00

00:41:33.940 work whilst their asylum claims are processed and the children aren't at school as there's no places.

00:41:39.700 And this is on a national scale. We have a shortage of school placements, a housing crisis,

00:41:44.980 an employment crisis. We're in recession and now we have an immigration crisis. It's clearly an 0.93

00:41:51.460 expensive operation. All the migrants receive three meals a day, are given weekly spending 1.00

00:41:57.780 allowances and free accommodation. There's 24-7 security who need to act as translators sometimes.

00:42:05.300 So we're in an odd situation where newly arrived immigrants are working as security guards guarding 0.99

00:42:11.300 illegal migrants whilst their asylum applications are processed. Hotels are not meant for permanent

00:42:17.620 living so the building has quickly become dirty and slum-like. Clothing hangs from windows and there

00:42:24.420 are issues with rubbish disposal and a general overcrowded mustiness throughout.

00:42:31.460 So now that we've left the Crown Plaza Hotel, just 10 minutes down the road outside of Heathrow

00:42:36.500 Airport is the Atrium Hotel. You might even recognise some of the viral footage from the

00:42:41.140 Atrium Hotel which the current guests have put on Snapchat which showed hundreds of men loitering in

00:42:48.340 the Atrium car park. This hotel has been commandeered by the UK government until April 2024 at the very

00:42:57.300 earliest at the cost of the UK taxpayer. Fortunately, just like the Crown Plaza Hotel, we managed to get

00:43:04.180 inside this one and have a good look around. Here's the footage.

00:43:18.020 Walking into the hotel, I noticed lots of migrants hanging out in the lobby talking to what appeared

00:43:23.300 to be immigration staff. The migrants can come and go freely whilst their asylum applications are processed,

00:43:29.940 so some spend the day relaxing in the hotel, whereas others freely roam the local area.

00:43:39.380 So getting into the Atrium Hotel was quite easy and now we're in, all we've seen are young men, 0.74

00:43:46.260 single and bored. The security don't really seem to be doing much, the conditions aren't. The hotel is nice,

00:43:52.580 but it has become starting to look derelict. There's rubbish across all the corridors. We've seen a

00:44:02.500 trail of blood going down the stairs. Every single floor has security personnel at the god knows what

00:44:10.260 cost of the taxpayer. There's laundry on every floor, we've seen mountains of laundry. There's food,

00:44:18.020 there are bags of food outside of every door. We don't know how much the catering here is costing,

00:44:23.140 but we know they're getting three meals a day. We've seen bags of food outside of doors. Often the food's

00:44:29.380 even going to waste. But one thing we do know is that the government has actually condeed this one

00:44:35.060 particular hotel until April 2024 at the earliest. So what we know is that there are hundreds of men in

00:44:43.620 this building waiting for their asylum process to be completed, which could take years. And we have

00:44:52.820 more and more coming each week. As we've seen this year alone, we've had over 40,000. Last year it was

00:44:58.660 around 20,000. That was just the illegals we knew about. And that's going to be costing the taxpayer an

00:45:05.300 extremely high amount and it's only going to grow. What I've shown you today are just two of more than

00:45:13.540 200 hotels being used to house young male migrants around the country. On this map,

00:45:20.660 it shows some of the hotels being used to house migrants that we know of. The Daily Mail ran an

00:45:25.780 article in November. This article was interesting because it mentioned many recent incidents around

00:45:30.820 the migrant hotel situation. It mentions at the Holiday Inn in Colchester, two migrants staged a

00:45:38.100 rooftop protest which was recorded on video and went viral online. In the video, the men are shouting

00:45:45.140 in Urdu, the language used by Pakistanis. There's been questions about security. In Essex, at the

00:45:52.100 four-star Great Hallingbury Manor, which has been taken over to house 50 male migrants aged under 40 from

00:45:58.420 North Africa, with two staff looking after them, according to locals. This Tudor-style property is now

00:46:04.020 closed to the public because it's housing North African migrants on the taxpayer's expense.

00:46:09.060 In Rotherham, local residents have complained about the noise coming from the Holiday Inn Express,

00:46:14.180 which is being used to house migrants. Reports of loud music late into the night and groups of men

00:46:20.180 playing football till all hours of the night. One local resident called for a curfew because the

00:46:25.940 migrants are disturbing the children's sleep. The Stoke-Rochford Hall, advertised as a luxurious 1.00

00:46:32.340 Victorian mansion, decided to take up the lucrative government offer to house migrants and then 1.00

00:46:37.700 cancelled pre-booking and even cancelling people's wedding bookings, according to TripAdvisor reviews.

00:46:43.780 In Waltham Forest, East London, a 39-year-old migrant was arrested on suspicion of raping a 13-year-old boy,

00:46:51.620 who was then released on bail and has since disappeared.

00:46:55.700 This incident happened at a migrant hotel housing 450 migrants and 150 of them being children.

00:47:03.380 However, it's not just locals complaining with the current situation.

00:47:07.940 The migrants themselves are complaining about hotel living.

00:47:11.700 Only a few days ago, the Russ Hill Hotel near Gatwick Airport had unpleasant scenes when a large

00:47:17.540 group of migrants living there were upset about their conditions and began to cause disturbances in the hotel.

00:47:23.220 In other areas, similar complaints are being made by the migrants.

00:47:28.580 In Bristol, a group of migrants living at the Holiday Inn near the airport have said they are

00:47:33.940 cut off from shops, people and asylum seekers' services. 1.00

00:47:38.260 The hundred young men from Sudan, Eritrea, Iran, Iraq, Syria and Somalia have to take buses

00:47:45.380 into the city for medical or legal appointments.

00:47:47.940 With the situation deteriorating across the country and large numbers expected to arrive 1.00

00:47:53.380 in the coming months, it appears as though the British immigration system is in tatters

00:47:57.940 and the government are reluctant to address the issue.

00:48:01.380 The Home Office admitted using hotels to house migrants was unacceptable

00:48:05.540 and that it was a short-term solution.

00:48:07.460 But what is the long-term solution?

00:48:10.420 So today has been both eye-opening and concerning.

00:48:14.180 Eye-opening because of the sheer scale of this mass migration crisis 0.99

00:48:18.980 and concerning because of the sheer scale of this mass migration crisis.

00:48:23.780 After seeing only two hotels today with lots and lots of young men,

00:48:28.020 this is costing the UK taxpayer over £6 million per day in housing alone.

00:48:34.980 And that doesn't account for things like allowances, catering, security and many other expenses.

00:48:42.500 So this has been Callum Smiles in Heathrow after seeing two hotels for Rebel News.

00:48:48.740 See you next time.

00:48:58.020 Callum Smiles in Heathrow

Rebel News Podcast - November 23, 2022

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