Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trudeau’s hand-picked censorship commissars want to go even further than he does

00:00:00.200 Hello, my rebels. Today, I take you through a, I'm not going to call it a secret report,

00:00:05.380 but it's redacted. The names of who said what are kept secret. There's no transcript. It

00:00:11.060 happened in secret. We know it happened, but we just don't know who or who said what or

00:00:18.100 who objected. So it's really weird. It's not democratic, but it's how Trudeau's censorship

00:00:23.480 committee met to talk about how to fight disinformation, which they have now defined to

00:00:30.340 include political propaganda, which is so clear. They just mean, how do we silence our opponents?

00:00:38.020 It's quite something. I'm going to take you through it. I'm going to take you through it. I'm going to

00:00:41.680 quote from their official publication. You will find it weird that there is no name on this official

00:00:46.340 publication. They're keeping it secret. If you're going to be a censor, you may as well go all the

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00:01:45.160 Tonight, Trudeau's handpicked censorship commissars want to go even further than he does.

00:01:50.700 I'll tell you the crazy things they intend to regulate in your life. It's June 20th,

00:01:55.760 and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:02:00.860 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:02:12.640 I find it remarkable that Justin Trudeau cares more about censoring you

00:02:16.620 than about anything else in the country. He's put more effort into it, introduced more bills in

00:02:21.760 parliament about it, convened more panels, had more meetings and conferences about censoring

00:02:28.020 Canadian citizens than he has about any other subject. I can't get over it. No one thinks that's

00:02:33.540 a top priority. It's not a priority at all. It's the opposite of a priority. It's the wrong thing to do.

00:02:39.100 It's not being done for Canadians. It's being done against Canadians. It's a private interest of 0.81

00:02:45.380 Trudeau to silence his political opponents. There is no Canadian public interest in it. We've seen how

00:02:51.140 he abuses these powers for his own interests. Our little company, Rebel News, twice was banned from

00:02:57.400 even attending the federal election debates, not as the moderator, but even in the room, just because

00:03:02.680 Trudeau doesn't like us. Twice the federal court held an emergency hearing, and twice they agreed

00:03:10.660 with us that Trudeau had violated our civil rights and ordered Trudeau to accredit us at the last

00:03:16.280 moment. But you see my point? There was no public interest there. There was no demand amongst Canadians

00:03:21.720 for the government to nationalize election debates. It was clearly a partisan takeover of part of the

00:03:28.540 election. It was supposed to be a nonpartisan thing. You know, I can't even believe I missed this.

00:03:35.480 You know, Craig Kielberger, you know, the crooked, one of the crooked masterminds, one of the two

00:03:42.400 brothers behind the WE charity scam. Can you tell me what his expertise was that put Justin Trudeau,

00:03:50.420 have put him on the board of that government debates commission? The one that banned Rebel News? Is

00:03:56.120 Craig Kielberger an expert at putting on public debates? Was there a great groundswell by Canadians

00:04:03.860 to have him run our election, and the media companies that had run debates for decades simply

00:04:09.400 wouldn't give in to Kielberger mania or something? No, of course not. It's obviously just a way to put a

00:04:17.060 partisan Trudeau crony in a position of power to corrupt a nonpartisan pillar of our democracy. I mean,

00:04:23.460 Kielberger funneled hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Trudeau family. Trudeau's mom, his

00:04:29.180 siblings, his wife. Clearly not an appropriate use of charity funds, and clearly a conflict of interest

00:04:35.660 for a politician to enrich himself by someone who bids for things from the government. It's probably

00:04:40.720 illegal, but it happened. And only after the total implosion of Kielberger's charity did he step down

00:04:47.660 from the debates commission. What was he doing on there in the first place? Well, that's what this whole

00:04:51.680 regulate the internet thing feels like to me. No one wanted it. No one asked for it. It's a negative

00:04:56.680 benefit to the public. It's a harm. The only person or group it benefits are Trudeau and his clique,

00:05:03.840 including hundreds of lawyers and bureaucrats being enriched along the way. I mean, the election

00:05:08.100 debates commission really only had one job once every four years. That's a few million bucks to pass

00:05:15.020 around the money to Kielberger and friends. But regulating the internet, that's an around-the-clock,

00:05:20.480 every-single-day project where tens of billions of dollars are at stake. It is huge, but it's just

00:05:27.220 as awful, just as unconstitutional, of course, and just as unwanted by Canadians. No one's asking for 1.00

00:05:32.860 this, but you can see why Trudeau and his cronies want to talk about it. They want it done, but they'd

00:05:38.240 rather talk about their enemies, which is how they conceive of their political opposition,

00:05:43.940 than to, you know, do unfun things like fix broken airports or fix inflation. You saw this,

00:05:50.500 right? I, um, take a look at this.

00:05:55.240 Okay.

00:05:56.240 Was it a yay or an A?

00:05:58.200 Yay.

00:06:00.220 Yay.

00:06:01.120 Yay.

00:06:01.300 Follow up on basically immediately what you ended with on the topic of being nimble. You said in the

00:06:08.040 speech, not ruling out future support, uh, and I'm guessing responding to incoming economic data and

00:06:14.460 all that. What, what is on the table? Like what, what potential future supports are being considered

00:06:19.020 right now?

00:06:19.520 I think, you know, I meant what I said about the need to be agile, the need to really be aware of the

00:06:36.120 fact that this is a fast changing economic environment. Uh, and so let me just, I'm just

00:06:46.260 going to repeat what I said, which is we're going to watch the data. We're going to spend some time

00:06:51.540 talking to Canadians, seeing what is happening in their lives. We're going to keep a close watch

00:06:59.440 on the programs I've already described, which are being dispersed right now and be mindful of the

00:07:06.860 impact they are having. Um, and you know, definitely keep the door open to further action as the global

00:07:18.460 economic environment, uh, evolves and as the Canadian economy evolves and, and, you know, crucially,

00:07:25.980 um, what we're going to be watching is

00:07:29.100 the accomplishment of this soft landing. Uh, I think we all know that that's going to be challenging,

00:07:39.260 but really Canada has a better shot than anybody else. Uh, and I really can't emphasize too much,

00:07:47.500 uh, how, how many global factors there are.

00:07:55.840 Yeah, I swear that reminds me of the Mr. Bean movie. When everyone thinks he's an art expert

00:08:02.620 flown in from London, England, but, but he literally has no clue. And then he's forced to

00:08:06.840 give a speech, uh, on a famous painting. By the way, this painful clip I'm about to show you

00:08:11.640 is actually shorter than the painful clip I just showed you of Chrystia Freeland trying to talk

00:08:17.200 about inflation. Who did it better? Chrystia Freeland trying to talk about inflation or Mr. Bean 1.00

00:08:23.480 trying to talk about a painting that he had never seen before. Take a look.

00:08:28.120 And now, uh, for the second highlight of our day. Dr. Bean, the great English art scholar,

00:08:34.360 is here to speak for a few minutes, not too long, Doctor, on the subject of our new purchase. Ladies

00:08:39.960 and gentlemen, Dr. Bean of the National Gallery of England.

00:08:43.960 Okay. Yeah. Okay.

00:08:47.960 Um, uh, uh, well, hello. I'm Dr. Bean, apparently.

00:09:05.960 Dr. Bean, apparently. And, and my job is to sit and look at paintings.

00:09:15.960 Dr. Bean, just him and the painting.

00:09:21.960 Um, so, um, what have I learnt that I can say about this painting?

00:09:33.960 Dr. Bean, um, well, well, firstly, it's quite big, which is excellent.

00:09:44.280 Dr. Bean, because if it was really small, you know, microscopic,

00:09:51.640 then hardly anybody would be able to see it, which would be a tremendous shame.

00:09:57.160 Dr. Bean, um, secondly, and I'm getting quite near the end now of this analysis of this painting.

00:10:09.240 Dr. Bean, yeah. I think, uh, Freeland prefers to talk about anything other than her actual job.

00:10:16.120 Um, you know, fix inflation, fix airports. Here's a video from Montreal's airport, so it's not just Toronto,

00:10:26.440 that's in meltdown.

00:10:29.160 So you can see why Trudeau and his cronies would prefer to talk about anything other than what the country needs or wants.

00:10:36.040 They prefer to talk about what they need and want, and they need to demonize their opponents and silence their opponents,

00:10:42.360 including us at Rebel News. And let me pause for a moment to point out what's so sad here.

00:10:46.440 In the past, I actually think there would have been a lot of skepticism and resistance to Trudeau doing this from even liberal-leaning journalists.

00:10:56.440 I mean, nationalizing the leaders' debates. What are you doing?

00:11:00.120 And now the censorship bills. I'm going to give you some new details in a moment. I truly believe, or at least I'd like to believe,

00:11:07.480 that there would have been some editorials and columns in the Globe and Mail and even in the Toronto Star against this.

00:11:13.720 Some other voices, like journalistic groups or privacy groups, but not one of them that I've seen,

00:11:21.320 because they've been co-opted, colonized, recruited, rented, absorbed, paid off. They're in on it. They asked for it.

00:11:28.280 So how could they oppose it? Boosting Trudeau's favorite journalists with grants and privileges

00:11:34.760 is simply the other side of the coin of punishing the journalists that Trudeau hates.

00:11:40.600 You can't very well join Trudeau's payroll, but then squawk when he goes after your competitors.

00:11:46.280 And really, it's just us, a ragtag independent media company and a few other tiny guys like True North

00:11:52.600 that are outside the warm embrace of Trudeau and his pot of money.

00:11:55.880 So the rival journalists like that were being shut up. We've had a great year, by the way, though,

00:12:03.880 journalistically. In February alone, I think I told you this, we had about 400 million views

00:12:08.520 and impressions on all platforms, more than any newspaper in Canada. And I just checked, if you can

00:12:13.640 see here, this is from the official CBC advertising kit. The CBC on any given month has just over 300

00:12:22.680 million visits a month. So we actually had more visits. They have 317 million on the average. That's why

00:12:29.640 we had 4 million. We beat them. That's why they're so mad at us, Trudeau,

00:12:34.520 our corporate media competitors. We absolutely owned the trucker convoy story. It wasn't nothing

00:12:40.120 that gave us the 400 million views. By the way, that's much larger than we normally get.

00:12:43.800 But it was our coverage of the truckers. Not because we have magical powers or some magical access,

00:12:49.320 because we simply went down there to talk to the truckers. We drove across Canada with the truckers.

00:12:54.760 We didn't insult them or denounce them. We chased down and debunked Trudeau's hoaxes,

00:13:00.280 in fact. Hoaxes that the media party fed. I mean, come on.

00:13:04.920 I do ask that because, you know, given Canada's support of Ukraine in this current crisis with

00:13:12.280 Russia, I don't know if it's far-fetched to ask, but there is concern that Russian actors could be

00:13:20.120 continuing to fuel things as this protest grows, but perhaps even instigating it from the outset.

00:13:26.280 Yeah. Still waiting for the CBC's YouTube channel to be taken down for disinformation for that one,

00:13:31.960 which is what I want to talk about today. Fix inflation, fix the economy, fix housing prices,

00:13:37.400 fix gas prices, fix our broken immigration system, fix our broken border at Roxham Road,

00:13:42.760 fix our inability to build anything because of the de facto veto that foreign-funded environmentalists

00:13:48.280 have over our oil industry. How about fix health care? I don't mean COVID fear-mongering. I mean,

00:13:55.880 fix the broken system. How about fix Indian reserves with no water? You want to do that?

00:14:01.960 How about doing something for the people instead of doing something to the people? No chance.

00:14:08.120 So look at my news today. I saw this in the National Post. Liberals drop plan to force

00:14:14.840 takedowns of harmful content after censorship accusations. Oh, that sounds promising. What a

00:14:21.160 happy headline. The National Post, by the way, is owned by Post Media, which is the single largest

00:14:26.680 recipient of Trudeau's media bailout, I guess second element of the CBC. I wonder if that's why they put

00:14:32.120 that happy headline on it instead of the real news in it, which is Trudeau's handpicked censors want

00:14:39.080 to actually go even further than Trudeau proposed. Let me read the first two sentences and then I'm

00:14:45.160 going to read you some more. The federal liberal government plans to shift gears on its controversial

00:14:50.520 proposal to regulate online harms to an approach that puts the onus on digital platforms to deal with

00:14:56.840 potentially harmful content. The move comes after critics warned the original plan would amount to

00:15:02.600 censorship and new documents released from a government-appointed advisory group

00:15:07.560 show it supported a change in approach.

00:15:09.560 Okay, but now read the next two sentences. However, most if not all members of the advisory group

00:15:17.240 appointed by Heritage Canada have suggested that the categories of harms targeted should be broadened

00:15:24.600 to include, among other things, misleading political communications, propaganda, and online content that

00:15:33.000 promotes an unrealistic body image. So just to be clear, this is the advice from Trudeau's handpicked

00:15:39.480 12-person board of censors. These are the people who will give life to his digital book burnings.

00:15:45.800 They'll choose the books to burn, and here's what they said. In addition to the five categories of content

00:15:52.360 proposed by the government, they stated that the framework should also incorporate a range of both illegal

00:15:57.720 and legally but possibly harmful content, including fraud, cyber bullying, defamation, propaganda,

00:16:04.920 misleading political communications, and mass sharing of traumatic incidents. They also suggested

00:16:10.840 targeting content and algorithms that contribute to, quote, unrealistic body image and isolation or

00:16:17.000 diminished memory concentration and ability to focus. The government also consulted the experts about how

00:16:23.160 it could address this information. Yeah, so I'm not quite sure that that happy post-media headline was

00:16:30.840 accurate. Are you? Did you hear that? Propaganda is now going to be illegal. Misleading political

00:16:36.920 communications. What exactly does that mean? Body image censorship. I like that one.

00:16:44.840 You know, they don't mean banning this image. They mean promoting this image. As in, if you show

00:16:51.400 feminine women, thin, healthy women, you'll be censored. You'll have to show fat women or more likely 1.00

00:16:57.320 transgender women. X-Men, as someone called them. Do you think I'm exaggerating? But what else could

00:17:06.360 they mean when they say they want the government to stop media companies from creating the wrong body

00:17:13.000 image? What else could they mean? But back to the politics, Trudeau doesn't really care about feminism

00:17:19.160 or body image. I mean, come on. He just cares about raw power and he'll have it. Imagine banning political

00:17:25.000 propaganda. I mean, propaganda, if you look at the root of the word, those are just messages

00:17:29.320 that you propagate. Now, it has a negative connotation, as in, you're exaggerating something,

00:17:34.760 you're spinning, you're partisan. It's not just the facts. So everyone thinks their opponent

00:17:42.680 engages in propaganda while they themselves engage in the truth. I mean, I think this is propaganda,

00:17:48.840 hateful propaganda. Actually, you tell me.

00:18:12.600 Here's a great clip we published just the other day showing how Trudeau engages in hate propaganda

00:18:18.280 while accusing his opponents of engaging in hate propaganda.

00:18:22.120 Attack politics, divisive politics, negative, stirring up of hate and fear and differences.

00:18:28.360 Parouchement opposé à la vaccination.

00:18:30.840 Ils sont extrémistes. 0.99

00:18:31.880 Ils ne croient pas dans la science. Ils sont souvent misogynes, souvent racistes.

00:18:36.280 Once you've used those methods to get elected, it becomes incredibly hard to govern responsibly for

00:18:44.760 all citizens. But don't think you can get on a plane or a train besides vaccinated people 0.93

00:18:50.360 and put them at risk. This country is a country of openness, of respect, of compassion, of the

00:18:56.600 rights of the individuals, of freedom. Freedom to do what you want with your body.

00:19:00.280 The dirty secret is they work. Even back in 2015, they work to get you elected.

00:19:07.960 Sure. Small fringe minority holding unacceptable views.

00:19:13.080 Once you start, you know, churning up anger, it just, it just feeds on itself.

00:19:18.120 Those people are putting us all at risk.

00:19:21.160 Aaron O'Toole talks about, oh yes, we need to unite people. We need to bring people together.

00:19:25.560 He's talking about defending the rights of people who are anti-vax.

00:19:30.280 But Nazi symbolism, racist imagery. No to hatred and to Islamophobia. No to terror and to racism.

00:19:39.560 Keep taking meaningful action to fight racism and discrimination in every form.

00:19:45.320 That's where we're seeing in Canada a certain number of people who stirred up that,

00:19:51.000 starting to have it sort of turn back against them a little bit.

00:19:53.720 Yeah. But let me show you some more of what Trudeau plans to do. And really, who's going to stop him?

00:20:02.760 Trudeau got the lowest vote ever recorded in a Canadian election for someone to become

00:20:07.480 prime minister, just over 32% of those who voted. And there was low voter turnout to begin with.

00:20:12.040 He has no mandate for any of this, but I mean, who's going to stop him?

00:20:16.440 Maybe someone like Jody Wilson-Raybould might have, the most honest woman to be in the federal 1.00

00:20:20.520 cabinet in a generation. But Trudeau threw her out. There's no room for a rule follower, 0.97

00:20:25.880 or constitution obeyer in Trudeau's world. So I'm going to read for you some excerpts from one

00:20:31.320 of these reports written by Trudeau's handpicked panel. As you can see, I'm taking it from the

00:20:38.040 government website to the same effect. Here's that panel, by the way. I'll just name a couple of

00:20:42.520 names, Amornaf Amorasingham. I know him from Twitter because he is, to use a word, a propagandist

00:20:49.480 for Trudeau, against anything conservative. God, he hates Trump. He's got Trump derangement syndrome.

00:20:54.840 And that's all fine, except for that he's on the censorship panel. He's not neutral.

00:21:00.120 I mean, there's just a few things he's written about Rebel News before.

00:21:04.920 Gee, do you think he'll recommend silencing us? Here's one thing he wrote a little while ago.

00:21:10.200 I mean, it doesn't even matter if he's right or wrong, but he's not neutral. He says,

00:21:14.280 just this week, Ezra LeVant's Rebel Media officially became an international embarrassment this week.

00:21:21.560 Oh, okay. So you're the censor, are you? I wonder if you're going to come for the Rebel News.

00:21:25.560 P.T.'s, I don't know what that means. P.T.'s Rebel Media getting trolled all day long. Laugh out loud.

00:21:32.440 All right. Here's one about us covering an accused terrorist murder in the Toronto area. We did

00:21:38.920 great reporting on this. He didn't like it. He said, apparently, Rebel Media has just arrived at

00:21:43.720 the Hussein family home. I'm sure when they are done with this story, it will be sufficiently bat 1.00

00:21:49.320 shit. I wonder if they would have even wasted the gas if it was a white shooter. Got it. So his 0.97

00:21:55.560 hatred for Rebel News is exceeded only by his sympathy for a terrorist just because that terrorist

00:22:01.480 happened to be Muslim instead of white. You can have that kind of kooky opinion about how to cover 1.00

00:22:07.400 terrorists and apparently that you can't cover terrorists if they're Muslim. And that's really 0.82

00:22:11.240 weird. But this guy is in charge of censoring us because we wanted to do journalism and he didn't

00:22:17.240 want us to do journalism. Here's another one, Bernie Farber. He's with the ironically named

00:22:24.040 anti-hate lobby group, the one that was paid more than a quarter million dollars by Trudeau

00:22:28.760 to accuse conservatives of hate. That was actually in their contract. Farber is such a kook. Again, 1.00

00:22:34.520 it's fine to be a kook. But he's the guy who circulated this hoax, this disinformation. I 0.69

00:22:39.880 don't know if you remember this. You can see on the left he had a weird anti-Semitic flyer

00:22:45.240 that he claims was, quote, taken by a friend in Ottawa at the occupation. So he's testifying to its

00:22:52.600 providence. He's not saying, I just found this on the internet. He is saying, I can supply the

00:22:59.640 background information. This photo was taken of the truckers. He's testifying to its authenticity.

00:23:07.880 But look at on the right, the exact same flyer, creased in the exact same way,

00:23:15.000 showing that the flyer was actually a photograph taken in Miami a week earlier.

00:23:20.040 Bernie Farber was conducting a hate hoax, disinformation for profit.

00:23:26.360 Yeah, and he doesn't like us much here at Rebel News either. I mean, just a little sampling.

00:23:32.760 And what of Andrew Scheer, whose campaign director was Hamish Marshall, a co-founder of the virulent,

00:23:38.840 anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim rebel media? What is his responsibility today?

00:23:43.720 Yeah, look, we have people of all backgrounds who work here, Christian, Jewish, Muslim. The chair of

00:23:48.840 our board of advisors is a Muslim woman, Raheel Raza. We're not against Muslims. We're against people who

00:23:54.600 are terrorists, whether or not they're Muslim or white or whatever. But Farber would make it illegal

00:24:00.760 to criticize any terrorist because he would call that Islamophobic if they're Muslim.

00:24:07.160 He says, always find it fun when mentioned in alt-right rebel, all the bigots, racists,

00:24:13.400 and bullies salivate and retweet like I could care less. Yeah, do you think that guy was hired

00:24:20.440 because he wants to silence Rebel News? Maybe just a tiny chance of that. These are the people

00:24:25.880 who are the censors, the most kooky, disinformant. Like, these are the worst people in the world in

00:24:31.720 this job. So anyways, these panelists had a review on disinformation. It was done in secret.

00:24:39.880 This is their report in the end. No one got to vote on this. There wasn't a debate in parliament. You

00:24:44.920 weren't invited. It was Trudeau's hand-picked friends, just like his debates commission. It's

00:24:50.200 an inside job. It's a stitch-up. Oh, sorry, you weren't on the guest list. And here's what they said.

00:24:54.760 But you'll notice even who said it is kept a secret. That's how a lack of transparency is.

00:25:02.280 The expert advisory group on online safety held its eighth session on June 3rd from 1 to 4 p.m.

00:25:08.840 on disinformation. Eleven members were present. The advisory group was joined by government

00:25:14.440 representatives from the Department of Canadian Heritage, Justice, Innovation, Science, and Economic

00:25:19.080 Development, Public Safety, Women and General Equality, and the Privy Council Office. Representatives

00:25:23.800 from the RCMP were also present. Oh, did you know that your rights were taken away from you in three

00:25:31.080 hours one afternoon earlier this month? What, you weren't on the guest list? Yeah, me neither.

00:25:35.400 So I'm just going to read a few sentences. Each one of them is a wonder. Here's one.

00:25:42.440 They pointed to, they're talking about the experts. They pointed to how dis, that they don't name.

00:25:46.940 They pointed to how disinformation was used in the context of the COVID-19 pandemic

00:25:51.600 and to undermine democracy in the United States as particular examples of the serious and immediate

00:25:57.580 threats disinformation poses. They went on to explain how the effects of disinformation are insidious.

00:26:02.440 Its effects may not be readily apparent, but slowly erode trust and social inclusion.

00:26:08.740 Hang on, are they saying that Joe Biden was elected because of misinformation or disinformation?

00:26:14.520 I might actually agree the media, including Twitter, banned a legitimate story about Hunter Biden's

00:26:20.140 laptop. They said it was a fake story, but in fact, that was a lie. The fact that disinformation

00:26:27.420 leads to trust of institutions so well. I think that Trudeau has done that on his own, don't you think?

00:26:32.460 Well, not on his own, with the help of the media party. How about this pretzel logic? We can't let

00:26:38.960 you see the other side of the story on the internet because you might choose to believe it instead of

00:26:43.880 believing the official story. So giving you a choice undermines your ability to make a choice.

00:26:49.760 I'm serious. That's what they say. Let me read it verbatim. And of course, which the expert is,

00:26:56.640 they keep a secret here. This is from their report. Some experts introduced the notion that

00:27:02.940 disinformation undermines the rights of users. They asserted that by polluting the information

00:27:10.140 environment with false, deceptive, and or misleading information, disinformation undermines citizens'

00:27:16.800 rights to form their own informed opinions. Some experts stress that disinformation undermines

00:27:22.800 freedom of attention by crowding and diverting citizens' attention and focus on intentionally

00:27:29.240 misleading or deceptive information. Oh my God, that is so Orwellian. You're too stupid to know right

00:27:36.280 from wrong. You might choose the wrong choice. So we're not going to let you have a choice. So you'll

00:27:41.440 have a cleaner choice, not one polluted by the other point of view. They admit it's hard to define

00:27:47.880 misinformation, by the way, but they say sometimes it's just so obvious. Quote, some experts noted that

00:27:54.360 there may be certain cases where disinformation is easier to conceptualize and address. These experts

00:28:00.660 pointed to disinformation campaigns by foreign state actors as an example where the government could more

00:28:06.160 easily identify and address disinformation in a justifiable way. In these cases where the actors and

00:28:11.680 intent behind disinformation is clear and national security threats are at play, experts explain that

00:28:17.320 the government may justifiably act through legislation. Got it. So how about this one again?

00:28:24.100 I do ask that because, you know, given Canada's support of Ukraine in this current crisis with Russia,

00:28:31.180 I don't know if it's far-fetched to ask, but there is concern that Russian actors could be

00:28:38.580 continuing to fuel things as this protest grows, but perhaps even instigating it from the outset.

00:28:45.100 That's a state broadcaster pushing lies designed to whip up hysteria, to undermine democracy and hurt

00:28:52.140 our civil liberties, and it worked. So is that what they had in mind for government disinformation?

00:28:58.480 So the big idea, and it's mentioned in the National Post article, is for government to outsource

00:29:04.000 this censorship to big tech. So they'd have Mark Zuckerberg at Facebook and the oligarchs who run

00:29:12.100 Google and YouTube and Twitter. They would censor you on behalf of the government, but that way people

00:29:17.940 couldn't blame the government. They couldn't sue the government. They couldn't use the charter to

00:29:21.960 protect themselves against government. It's brilliant. It's privatizing censorship that would otherwise be

00:29:27.140 illegal. There's this one line in there, though. Let me read it to you. However, a few experts argued

00:29:33.540 that a systems-based approach focused on behavior still poses risk. These experts argued that in

00:29:40.020 order to approximate the behaviors and mechanisms used to create and spread disinformation, services

00:29:45.480 would still have to identify disinformation and therefore make a determination of falsehood.

00:29:50.600 They questioned how online services would know what behaviors to address without detecting and judging

00:29:56.040 the veracity of content in the first place. So in other words, to censor untrue things, they would

00:30:03.860 have to know what the untrue things are. They would have to decide. And how can Mark Zuckerberg do that?

00:30:08.280 Imagine making Mark Zuckerberg the arbiter of what is true or not. He'd love that. But really,

00:30:14.200 that's terrible. But Trudeau wants that power to tell you what's true or false. Now, I'm going to stop there

00:30:21.460 because for me to go further would mean opening up literally seven more entire sections that they've

00:30:28.880 published over the last few weeks. Like I said, there are four different proposed laws and systems

00:30:33.720 here. Each one has hundreds of pages of background like this. But you can see it's not really transparent.

00:30:38.280 Who said these things? Why? When? Who objected? They're hiding who the experts are. It's really weird.

00:30:46.440 They have all these advisory panels and expert panels. You have to trust them that they're experts.

00:30:51.420 They're all handpicked by Trudeau. They're all in on it. They're all meeting in secret.

00:30:55.260 It's all rushed. There's no transcripts. This is being done outside of Parliament's normal scrutiny.

00:30:59.920 Normally, that kind of thing is done in a parliamentary committee. And all of this is being done to benefit

00:31:05.000 Trudeau himself, not the country. But despite the secrecy, I mean, these summaries I just read to you,

00:31:11.580 that's all you get to know. They keep it a secret of who said what. You don't write laws that way.

00:31:19.460 And of course, the conflicts of interest here are absurd, which is one of the reasons they want a secret.

00:31:24.020 Not just them all being Trudeau handpicked staff, but they benefit from this fake industry. They get

00:31:29.140 grants for it. They get big grants if they say what Trudeau wants them to say. I don't know of any real

00:31:35.620 people who are worried about disinformation, except in the way they normally are. They realize

00:31:40.900 that politicians and the media lie to them, sometimes lie a lot. They realize that foreign 0.98

00:31:46.220 governments lie. And last two years, there's been a lot of lying, hasn't there? This isn't just

00:31:52.320 gaslighting by the government. It's projection. They're the ones telling the lies, but they're

00:31:56.500 accusing others of doing just that. This is going to be the big fight. Four bills in the House

00:32:02.640 were soon to be introduced. All of them surely unconstitutional, but really, who's going to

00:32:08.660 stop them? Not Parliament. Jagmeet Singh says he's on board to give Trudeau the votes he needs and

00:32:13.740 not the courts. Has any judge done anything in the past two years to stop the lockdowns?

00:32:19.220 A disastrous civil liberties bonfire that sentenced you to house arrest, shut down your churches and

00:32:24.840 businesses and throw peaceful protesters in prison and seize their bank accounts with no

00:32:29.760 legal recourse? If the courts won't act on that, you think they're going to act on this? Our useless

00:32:36.600 charter, our cowardly courts. My friends, our country's in trouble. Stay with us for more.

00:32:42.900 Have you heard of the pandemic treaty that Boris Johnson is looking to sign us into?

00:32:58.620 No, I don't know. So what it is, it's a treaty with the World Health Organization that means in

00:33:04.620 the future, future pandemics, as he said, will be run by unelected bureaucrats. Do you have any

00:33:11.300 comments at all and what you think about that? Whether you agree with it, disagree with it?

00:33:14.600 Unelected. Shouldn't be unelected. No.

00:33:18.020 No, I think, like, if something as big as, like, a pandemic happens, so we should choose, like,

00:33:23.740 who we, you know, who we want to deal with it, right? What do you think about what you're,

00:33:27.980 you're reading? Do you have a comment at all? Well, you're, you're, you're quoting The Express.

00:33:33.660 Mm-hmm. Yeah, you've got The Express there and you've got another... The Express is, like,

00:33:36.860 the biggest pile of s*** this country actually produces. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it kind

00:33:43.860 of completely disengages me from anything you have to say. Well, it's different sources, so...

00:33:49.340 Yeah, but, you know... It doesn't mean that it's not happening. If you're gonna, if you're gonna

00:33:52.440 quote The Express, you lose all credibility. Sorry. You've got The Telegraph there.

00:33:56.100 The Telegraph? Another pile of s***. No, I agree. Well, we're independent media,

00:33:59.920 so we don't actually subscribe by them, but if they're all saying the same thing and they're

00:34:05.520 talking about a pandemic treaty, do you know about the pandemic treaty? No. No? No. So unelected

00:34:10.440 bureaucrats governing our country? Well, they've got to be better than bloody Boris, haven't they?

00:34:14.400 We're putting up a sign around Oxford today about the WHO. Have you guys ever heard of them?

00:34:20.140 World Health Organisation? Yes. Yeah. We're going around, we're doing a campaign because Boris Johnson

00:34:25.480 is looking to join a pandemic treaty, which means we're going to be seeing a reoccurrence of lockdowns,

00:34:31.180 mask mandates, social distancing, all by unelected bureaucrats. Did you have

00:34:35.520 any comments at all about that? Total overreach. Total overreach? Yeah. Bulls***t. Yeah.

00:34:40.440 Absolutely. How about yourself? I'm not a Boris Johnson fan. Sorry, my voice isn't working

00:34:46.420 right now, but whatever he does, I don't like it. You guys heard of the World Economic Forum?

00:34:50.940 Yes. Yeah. What's your thoughts on them? It's all for the elites, right? Maintaining

00:34:56.440 the elites. Yeah. That's the whole gig. Yeah. Nothing else to say, really. I mean, we know

00:35:02.400 where they don't really, the words don't match up with the actions ever. That's all I can

00:35:07.780 say about that. It's like overreach through this whole pandemic, you know.

00:35:12.140 Doesn't he have a great temperament to him, great spirit, a little bit of banter? I like

00:35:17.900 how he engaged with the lady who doesn't trust any media outlet. You know, in some ways I feel

00:35:24.300 the same way. But I think he was, I think it was a great conversation. I'm impressed by how

00:35:28.900 many people knew about things, were interested in things. And boy, you know me, I'm a sucker

00:35:34.020 for the Jumbotron billboard trucks. That's what I call them. I don't know. I mean, maybe

00:35:39.380 it's because I've been on the no-fly list for over a year. I just sort of miss hearing those

00:35:43.900 British accents in beautiful UK. That is our UK reporter. And what a pleasure to have him

00:35:51.600 join us now via Skype from the UK to talk about his journey throughout the, great to see you,

00:36:00.460 my friend. So that was in Oxford, which is not too far from London itself. Am I right?

00:36:05.560 Yes, that's correct. Good to be here, Ezra. And good to see you.

00:36:09.120 Lewis, you've been doing a great job. I mean, we do a lot of those things. Oh, sorry. I didn't mean

00:36:13.200 to interrupt you. Lewis, tell us how this came about and where you were. Where did you take the

00:36:18.420 truck, Lewis? So we finished our reporting in Davos, right? And I came home and I sat at home

00:36:26.740 and I thought, I can't just sit around. I need to get out. I need to be active. I need to be doing

00:36:31.720 more in regards to telling people about the WEF, telling people about this pandemic treaty. So

00:36:38.300 with the help of Rebel News, I set a foot on a journey with a video billboard truck and decided to

00:36:47.420 take it around sort of like a tour around England. We started with Oxford, traveled all the way up to

00:36:54.120 Liverpool in the north of England, to Manchester, to Leeds, Sheffield, Leicester, Cambridge, and then

00:37:02.220 finishing back in Parliament Square and Downing Street, where we played that billboard and to get

00:37:08.740 a lot of people's reactions and obviously do a bit of streeters and try and figure out what the public

00:37:14.500 think about the WHO, the WEF, and whether they trust them or not. That's great. What a wonderful

00:37:21.020 tour of the UK. I mean, again, I'm just feeling a little sentimental and nostalgic for when I used

00:37:27.520 to be able to fly there. Hopefully that day will come again. Tell me, was there a difference? I mean,

00:37:33.660 you said you ended in Parliament Square. I've been there. That's basically what we would call our

00:37:38.340 Parliament Hill. It's right outside the chamber where the MPs have at it. And the people on the

00:37:45.560 street, odds are they're connected in some way to the government. They may be staffers, they may be

00:37:50.460 bureaucrats, they may be lobbyists, but that's a very insider group. I'm guessing you had a very

00:37:56.120 different response when you were up in the working class city of Manchester in the north versus when you

00:38:03.740 were in the snootiest, snobbiest lobby bureaucrat zone of Parliament Square. That's just my guess. What was it

00:38:11.100 like in reality?

00:38:13.520 That was completely correct. Liverpool, I have to say, was one of the toughest routes we took. Very working

00:38:22.380 class Liverpool as well. Very Labour stronghold. And getting people's reactions, it was mostly just about

00:38:29.620 dissing Boris when we were up there. But they didn't understand the fact that the WHO, no matter

00:38:35.700 if Boris even signs this treaty, it doesn't matter who will be in charge, the overarch will be from 1.00

00:38:41.820 the WHO. And trying to explain that to the working class people of Liverpool was quite a difficult one.

00:38:48.660 I had one guy who didn't get it at all, which you'll see. And I tried having a good conversation

00:38:56.480 with him and tried to explain. And the same sort of buzzwords were coming around because of the word

00:39:02.840 globalist and things like that and refused to shake my hand. Strangely, though, the place with the most

00:39:09.900 reception and the place with the most people who were engaging was, in fact, Derby, where it was the

00:39:17.740 birth of the Industrial Revolution, which was very, very insightful. And obviously, we're probably

00:39:24.520 expecting a fourth one very soon. But Derby was was very interesting. Over in the north of England,

00:39:30.160 a lot of people were coming out and, you know, very hesitant about the WEF and what they want to be

00:39:36.960 implementing and reorganising the world. Even one person off the street mentioned the Great Reset,

00:39:44.020 which took me by surprise. Parliament Square, there was in fact, a demonstration happening with a lot of

00:39:51.800 the Unite the Union lot. So of course, you know, they love a good union. They love a good

00:39:57.440 one world government, if you want to even call it that. So they were quite hostile in that sense. But,

00:40:04.240 you know, it's all about planting seeds. It's all about getting the message out and getting people

00:40:08.960 to understand what this pandemic treaty actually means. Well, Lewis, I wasn't just blowing sunshine at

00:40:15.480 you when I said you got a great way about you. And even if someone resists you, you stay positive and

00:40:20.660 upbeat. I think that looks really good on you. And it looks good on us for Rebel News. So thank you

00:40:24.480 for that. It's interesting what you're saying, because in the United States, and I think in

00:40:29.300 Canada, I see a new working class receptivity, receptiveness, I don't know what the word is,

00:40:37.680 to challenging the UN and the World Health Organization, the World Economic Forum. I think

00:40:42.780 the working classes sometimes say, well, you know what, the parties of the left aren't representing me

00:40:46.760 anymore. They seem to be in league with big pharma, with the oligarchs, big tech, Wall Street. So I see

00:40:56.060 sort of a Republican working class. I see in Canada, the prospective conservative leader,

00:41:03.160 Pierre Polyev, really talking to the working class. And I was wondering if that would be the case in the

00:41:08.660 UK. Do people in the UK who have lost their jobs, maybe their factory has been offshored,

00:41:15.140 perhaps? Do they still think that these globalist organizations like the UN are actually on their

00:41:23.320 side? I mean, to me, when you merge big government and big business, I don't think the working class 1.00

00:41:30.680 is going to get ahead. And I don't want to sound like a Marxist, but it's sort of surprising to me

00:41:34.300 if what you're saying is accurate, that working class and union members of the UK love the World

00:41:39.520 Economic Forum and the UN. I don't know how that's possibly in their interests.

00:41:44.660 I know. And I completely agree with you. It was a very mixed bag. I'll be honest with you. It was a

00:41:49.640 mixed bag of people. You had three types of people in this trip. You had the people that were awake

00:41:54.740 and understood who the WEF, who the WHO were. You had people who say, well, I don't know much about

00:42:01.920 that. So I'm not going to give my opinion. And then when you explain it to them, they kind of seize up

00:42:08.200 a bit and they go, actually, I know I don't know. So I'm not going to make a comment on them. And there

00:42:12.940 was other people who say, well, anyone but Boris and, you know, the WHO are essential. And that's what's

00:42:20.720 very, very confusing and be fascinating at the same time. I think you're right. There is there is a

00:42:28.500 definite Republican, conservative style, working class, I want to say faction that is emerging that

00:42:37.820 are sick and tired of these unelected bureaucrats over in Switzerland, Brussels, wherever, dictating

00:42:44.620 what's going on to over 194 countries and implementing their vision of the world. So I find it fascinating

00:42:54.380 that these so-called anti-establishment types, left wing, working class styled people are actually

00:43:05.280 siding with the corporations. They're siding with the United Nations and they're siding with huge

00:43:11.980 global leaders that are part of the WEF. It's just, it's unbelievable, really. So this trip was

00:43:20.240 essential, I think. And it was also a fascinating one to see all of that play out.

00:43:26.340 Yeah. You know, I enjoyed your coverage when you went with that team to Davos, Switzerland,

00:43:31.960 and then up to Geneva briefly at the end. In Davos, that's where the World Economic Forum meets. And then

00:43:37.460 Geneva, not too far away in the same country, is where the World Health Organization met. And it was

00:43:43.700 interesting to see the police give you guys a hard time. And the delegates really clam up, run away

00:43:50.200 from the cameras, promise to get back to you, and not, it looked like you had a real education

00:43:55.160 there. I felt like I learned a lot through your eyes. I wonder what an ordinary Brit in Liverpool

00:44:01.680 or Derby or Sheffield would have thought of what you saw when you were there. Did you mention that

00:44:10.200 to anyone or you didn't really go that deep with anyone, that you had been there and you had seen

00:44:14.860 things? Or was it just not a time for that kind of deep conversation? Because you really just talking

00:44:20.220 to people as you were walking by? Well, I'll tell you what, it was a very intense trip. So it was

00:44:26.540 basically a wild goose chase to chase the billboard to the next city, quickly jump out, set up and then

00:44:33.220 quickly get some streeters. So I would have loved if I had more time, I would have loved to have gone in

00:44:38.480 about Davos and, you know, seeing what, if they even knew about, you know, Davos, where they meet,

00:44:45.260 what they talk about. But, you know, you know what it's like. Yeah, you've got 30 seconds and people

00:44:50.600 are busy and they don't know who you are. And I know, I know the feeling's tough. Most people are too

00:44:54.620 busy to stop. Well, let me ask you this. How long was this journey around the UK? I tell you, I would

00:45:02.640 love to, I mean, that's my kind of tourism, frankly. How long was the journey? And was it

00:45:08.900 the same driver the whole time? Yes. So I went with a driver and he acted as my cameraman at the same

00:45:17.080 time. Oh, that's nice. The person who was going with the billboard, he was doing his own thing and

00:45:22.580 we would coordinate via WhatsApp and send locations. It was a three-day trip, starting meeting in Croydon,

00:45:29.600 driving to Oxford, getting out an hour at least. And then, or I think it was two hours driving up

00:45:36.100 to Liverpool, doing a few hours there, stay overnight and driving from Liverpool to Manchester,

00:45:42.040 which was about an hour and a bit. Sheffield, Leeds, Derby, staying overnight in Nottingham and doing

00:45:50.000 Nottingham, then going to Leicester, Cambridge, and then finishing in London, Victoria. It was a three-day

00:45:54.320 trip, which was jam-packed full of just driving, having a laugh, talking, and yeah, just trying to

00:46:03.320 get people's opinions and trying to wake people up from what's going on. Well, that sounds great. I

00:46:07.520 want to tell you that there's no such thing as a three-day around Canada trip. I mean, it's more

00:46:13.680 than three days just to go one way and that's not even going north and south. So I guess in the UK,

00:46:18.240 you can do it by truck. Did you talk at all to the guy driving the billboard truck? I mean,

00:46:25.760 was he completely apolitically said, hey man, I'm just driving a truck. Don't ask me questions. Or

00:46:32.360 was he curious about the message that was on the back of his vehicle for three days?

00:46:38.060 Yeah. So he's done a lot of political campaigns before, which was cool. So that was good. A lot of

00:46:43.860 it, he was explaining, a lot of it was sort of anti-Tory party stuff. So, you know, you kind

00:46:50.020 of had an idea of that, but he was pretty apolitical when it came to it. He was just there going, you

00:46:55.880 know what, I'll drive your truck. I don't mind. I don't actually mind what's on the side of it.

00:47:00.900 Yeah. I think he did go away having a think, but he actually did take a parking ticket for us,

00:47:07.380 where I think you'll see the clip soon, but it was actually in Oxford where that billboard was

00:47:14.340 positioned. When I was interviewing that lady who said about the evening standard and the telegraph

00:47:20.420 shortly after a traffic warden or a parking ticket guy just came up and started having an altercation

00:47:28.100 with him. And he goes, I'm not moving it. You know, I'm not moving it. I'll take the fine. I don't care.

00:47:32.820 Yeah. Which was really, really cool of him. So yeah, props to him for doing that for us.

00:47:38.340 Well, that's cool. What a great adventure. Now I heard just before I came into the studio that this

00:47:42.740 sort of went viral in the UK. Now tell me what that means. Who picked it up and how? Was it just

00:47:47.780 the billboard itself or did people like the URL expose the WHO. What happened and who did it seem to

00:47:56.280 be picked up by? So we started uploading, of course, the initial, right, we're going to start

00:48:05.560 this journey, expose the who.co.uk, follow this. I'm going to be tweeting out all the pictures of

00:48:12.040 the billboards, where they're going to go in terms of locations. And it's only when we arrived into

00:48:17.560 Liverpool and I put the Liverpool billboard where it just says the WEF and the WHO do not belong here.

00:48:25.480 And it made a zoom into the center. It just, it just blew up on Twitter. I'm not quite sure who

00:48:32.200 got a hold of it, but I think it's hit over 150,000 views just on Twitter alone. So that

00:48:38.520 was quite extraordinary. And Manchester as well picked up. And a lot of people were saying,

00:48:43.880 Oh, we'll come to come to Glasgow, come to Cornwall, come. We need this in Germany. We need 0.95

00:48:49.080 this in Canada, Australia. So people are really talking about it. So there's definitely something to say.

00:48:55.800 When we talk about the WHO and the WEF and we, we fly billboards like that down central city. So

00:49:02.680 it's very effective and very cool. That's great. Well, I love those billboards. Lewis,

00:49:06.360 I haven't been in the UK since before the pandemic began. I used to go there from time to time,

00:49:11.800 especially on free speech matters. And Rebel News used to fly the flag a lot in the UK. Now you picked

00:49:16.680 up the flag for us. Does anyone, did anyone recognize Rebel News or come up to you and say,

00:49:22.040 Oh, hi, who are you? Or was there any brand recognition of the rebel still on the streets of

00:49:26.520 the UK? There was, um, it happened in Oxford. Um, a person came up to me and said, Oh, I've,

00:49:32.840 I've seen your reports with, um, I've interviewed, of course, Steve Laws, who we've covered a few times.

00:49:38.600 So there was a channel crossing there, right? Yes, that's the one. Um, so we spoke a little

00:49:43.800 bit about that. We were also in Derby and there were three women that actually came up and said,

00:49:48.760 Oh, we're fans of Rebel. And they knew the camera guy as well, because he'd done some freedom

00:49:53.640 movement stuff as well. So we all ended up getting together after we'd finished and had lots of great

00:49:59.000 conversation. And yeah, it was, it was great. We, we had a very mixed bag of, of people, but there was a

00:50:05.320 few people who, who recognized, uh, Rebel and the Rebel brand, which was, which was fantastic.

00:50:10.520 Well, that's good to hear. I mean, the UK is a very interesting political place. I don't want

00:50:14.760 to pretend that I know it, but, uh, in, in some ways it's, it's a stronger and healthier democracy

00:50:20.600 than we have here in Canada. Your parliament doesn't have the same rigid party discipline that

00:50:26.360 we do. So we saw, for example, during the lockdowns, you had dozens of Tory MPs criticize

00:50:33.400 the party and that's acceptable in UK democracy. You have media like, for example, GB news, which is

00:50:41.560 on actual terrestrial TV. And I'd say they're pretty good. I mean, they have Nigel Farage on

00:50:47.240 all the time as just an example that our Canadians would recognize, but Mark Stein is on there and

00:50:53.160 they really talk about free speech. So in some ways I think the UK is a healthier political culture

00:50:58.520 than in Canada. And, um, it's not as barren as in Canada. It's not as desperate here, but I still

00:51:05.800 think there's a lot of room in the UK for the rebel approach, especially these little campaigns that

00:51:10.680 we like to do like the, the trucks. So folks to see all of Lewis's work on this tour, go to expose the

00:51:17.480 w ho.co.uk. Lewis, great to catch up with you. Thanks for taking the time. Thanks, Ezra. I really

00:51:24.280 appreciate it. It's been fun. All right. Keep it up. There you have it. Lewis Brackpool,

00:51:28.120 our UK correspondent. Stay with us more ahead.

00:51:41.960 Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me, Z tracks or Z tracks, as our American friends would say,

00:51:46.440 Western politicians think in terms of the next election cycle. China thinks in terms of decades,

00:51:52.280 if not planning a century ahead. Yeah. I mean, you're right. They have a long view as dictatorships

00:51:58.760 can take. Um, then the Soviets also had their five year plans. Um, sometimes you want that in 0.89

00:52:07.080 a government. Sometimes the government has to think longer term. And I think in terms of military,

00:52:11.480 you're probably right. An aircraft carrier can take 10 years from conception to reality.

00:52:16.760 So you have to have a longer time horizon. Um, I don't know. I saw some interesting reactions

00:52:23.240 in my commentary on those Chinese aircraft carriers. I believe that they're serious. And by the way,

00:52:28.840 China's not just on the high seas. They're in space. They have a Chinese space station. They put

00:52:34.200 a satellite on the far side of the moon and landed it there. That's no easy feat.

00:52:38.280 Hmm. Someone nicknamed the atheist said, if you're gonna lose a war, lose with pride.

00:52:46.840 Yeah, it's pretty embarrassing, isn't it? Tony Elliott says, the beard looks good on you, Ezra.

00:52:55.240 You know, I was talking to my mom last night and she says it makes me look old.

00:53:00.120 I said, mom, that's sort of the point. I, I'm, I am sort of old and I thought maybe that would

00:53:04.600 make me look wiser than I am. But no, she sort of votes for me to shave it off.

00:53:09.480 And she was fairly clear on that. Um, the missus on the other hand is mildly positive,

00:53:15.000 but thank you for the feedback. I just, I realized why I never grew a beard early in my life. I just

00:53:20.040 don't have the manpower, you know? Anyway, I'm talking too much about myself. I think I'm probably

00:53:25.240 going to shave it all off in a little while. Folks, that's the show for today. Until tomorrow,

00:53:29.400 on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, see you at home. Good night

00:53:32.840 and keep fighting for freedom. Adam Slaus here for Rebel News and we are in Coutts,

00:53:36.840 Alberta at the Coutts Rodeo. Checking out some of the action here today. Obviously,

00:53:41.480 Coutts was thrust onto the world map with the trucker blockade that took place here.

00:53:45.800 Uh, but we're going to talk to some of the folks here, learn a little bit more about the town and

00:53:49.000 about the rodeo lifestyle down here, as well as get some people's perspective on indeed the historical

00:53:53.480 events that transpired down at the border. The thing about small town rodeos is one, uh, it's a very

00:53:58.760 engaging atmosphere. It's very community based. You're right up there, uh, pretty close to the

00:54:03.640 action. And the other thing is, this is the road to the stampede. So, you know, the guys that, and

00:54:07.960 gals that ride at the stampede, they started here, they started in the circuit and this is what they'll 0.96

00:54:12.760 do all year to qualify for the big rodeos. So stampede's an invitational and the big CFR and all

00:54:18.280 the finals and so on. So yeah, you betcha it starts right here. What's it like coming out to these

00:54:22.440 rodeos, these small town rodeos? What are the people like? What's the vibe like out here?

00:54:25.720 Everyone's super friendly. Um, I'm ridiculous for getting as nervous as I do because everybody

00:54:30.440 is super friendly and super welcoming and, um, like people cheer and they're happy for you even

00:54:35.480 when they don't know you, which nobody knows me yet. So yeah, it's a lot of fun. How much do you think

00:54:40.280 sort of the toughness of Cowboys, the Western spirit, the independence, the resilience, so much

00:54:45.080 of what's on display here at the rodeo factored into what went down at the border? Um, well, what went on

00:54:50.600 at the border? Um, to me, it needed to happen a little bit. Um, some of it did go probably a little

00:54:59.560 too far, but that could play a big factor in the cooch rodeo. Love it. You know, you hear the

00:55:04.280 Canadian anthem get sung out here and it actually makes you start crying because you know what

00:55:08.120 everybody's gone through down here all over Canada. Um, it's beautiful. Rather be here supporting these

00:55:13.480 guys in order to stampede. Yeah. Yeah. Well, eventually some of these guys might wind up

00:55:17.160 there. They're hoping, but you get up and close and get that personal experience. Now we've talked

00:55:21.000 to a few folks about like this sort of grit, perseverance, um, the bravery, just to hop up

00:55:25.320 on here. How much do you think that factored into the facts that, that coots became very much on the

00:55:30.120 global stage because of the trucker rebellion and very much the Western attitude of grit and

00:55:34.040 perseverance factored into that? I think it factored in quite a lot. I mean, you're especially like

00:55:38.040 just now just finished crying, watching the girls out there doing their barrel racing. They just go out

00:55:41.880 there and give it their all. These people don't want to put up with any they're living their lives.

00:55:46.280 Just leave us alone. It's great to be back here. I rode in the freedom riders, uh, protest that

00:55:51.480 happened just up at milk river here. Uh, geez, a couple of months ago. And then the next day hopped

00:55:56.280 in my truck and went to Ottawa. It is good to be back here. It's good to be back under happier

00:56:00.360 circumstances in a way more open Alberta. Um, is it perfect? Not yet, but again, that's the whole point

00:56:06.440 point is this is a community that fights. This is a community that stands up for what it believes in.

00:56:10.840 Um, and it's a community with a very, very strong moral code and a value set. Truckers weren't, um,

00:56:17.000 really they weren't any problem at all. Like it, it was a little bit of a pain for the local people

00:56:21.560 because of the getting in and out of town, you know, because they put the, with the RCMP and stuff,

00:56:27.640 but, uh, that's about it. The truckers weren't a problem. So no lack of surprises down here in Cootes. Um,

00:56:34.120 if you could just introduce yourself and tell us why people might know, uh, your daughter at the very least.

00:56:38.120 Uh, we're Stan and Bonnie McBurney and Tamara Leach is our daughter. We were on the convoy with her,

00:56:45.240 took her to Ottawa. That's, that's absolutely incredible. Um, so what's it like obviously,

00:56:51.400 uh, was she, was she like this growing up? Is this just very out of character? Is this just out of

00:56:55.960 a necessity based on what happened globally? Tell us about, from your perspective, what happened with

00:57:00.280 Tamara Leach? Well, she's been very, uh, interested in everything that's going on and what isn't there

00:57:08.280 and she's not one to sit back and just let things happen. So yeah, we're proud of what she stood up

00:57:15.160 for. She's certainly one of those sort of historical figures that Canada is going to look back on while

00:57:19.880 this is going on. How proud are you of what she did? Definitely very proud. Yeah. That both of us are.

00:57:26.280 And from your perspective, uh, any thoughts? Um, we're asking folks down here at the rodeo that sort

00:57:32.120 of Southern Alberta spirit of grit and perseverance and all that good stuff. How much do you think that

00:57:37.160 factored into the fact that Tamara was willing to take that stand? Well, I'm not sure whether it's

00:57:42.520 Alberta. It's just Tamara's personality and you have to remember that she is one quarter Cree and she just 0.99

00:57:49.720 does what she's going to do because that's what she does. And I'm so proud of her. Well, I can't even

00:57:56.120 button my shirt up. Well, I think that that says a lot about our Alberta period, Alberta Cowboys, Alberta

00:58:02.920 farmers. I mean, at some point you have enough and the toughness that these guys grew up on. I mean,

00:58:09.880 most of the farms around here, you know, you saw the local competitors. They're, they're all part of

00:58:15.880 rodeo, which so they're rodeo tough too. It doesn't matter. Cowboys, cow girls, farmers, same thing. 0.99

00:58:20.680 I mean, without them, we aren't putting food on our, our, our tables. We aren't growing animals to

00:58:25.000 come to rodeo with. Right. So I mean, it all goes hand in hand and yeah, Alberta tough. Yep. That I

00:58:31.640 would say Alberta tough next to rodeo tough. And it was good to see those boys do what they did. And,

00:58:36.600 uh, you know, it ended not the way everybody wanted it to, but it was still good. And I mean,

00:58:42.440 the community here supported every each and every one of them. So it was, it was good,

00:58:46.840 good to see happen here in Alberta for us to take a stand for Canada. Yeah. Well, that is a wrap from

00:58:51.960 Coutts, Alberta. The rodeo has just finished up here and incredible experience to be here talking

00:58:57.160 to some of the folks about small town rodeo. I encourage you to check one out. It's an experience

00:59:01.800 unlike anything else you can get right up close to the action. We also talked to some people on their

00:59:06.200 perspectives about the Coutts blockade that unfolded not all that long ago, incredible to garner

00:59:11.320 their opinions. I'm a little bit sweatier and a little bit more covered in mud than when the day

00:59:15.800 started. But after spending a day at the rodeo, I absolutely cannot complain. I want to thank you

00:59:21.000 all so much for tuning in. For Rebel News, I'm Adam Sos.

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