Rebel News Podcast - May 29, 2025


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trump administration unleashes sanctions on global free speech oppressors


Episode Stats

Length

46 minutes

Words per Minute

162.2048

Word Count

7,505

Sentence Count

635

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

8


Summary

Donald Trump gave Canada Mark Carney, but he might also give us freedom of speech, writes Ezra Levenkamp. He explains why this is a good thing, and why we should all be thankful for it. He also explains why we need to be careful about how we treat our own free speech rights.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Tonight, Donald Trump gave Canada Mark Carney, but he might also give us freedom of speech.
00:00:05.740 It's May 28th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
00:00:11.440 Shame on you, you censorious bug.
00:00:22.940 I'm a big fan of Donald Trump, by some measures the biggest in Canada,
00:00:28.080 but I can't deny that his tweets and his public statements helped derail Pierre Polyev and install Mark Carney,
00:00:35.260 the globalist oligarch, the environmental extremist.
00:00:39.720 Obviously, the decision to put Mark Carney in the prime minister's chair was made by Canadian voters,
00:00:45.260 and Donald Trump didn't get a vote, but Trump gave Carney a fake campaign issue,
00:00:50.220 defending Canada against an American invasion or annexation.
00:00:54.360 I mean, just listen to this insanity that Trump managed to make plausible for Carney.
00:00:59.960 We are facing the most significant crisis of our lifetimes
00:01:03.580 because of President Trump's unjustified trade actions and his threats to our sovereignty.
00:01:10.860 Our response must be to build a strong economy and a more secure Canada.
00:01:15.700 President Trump claims that Canada isn't a real country.
00:01:24.500 He wants to break us so America can own us.
00:01:31.260 We will not let that happen.
00:01:34.740 We're over the shock of the betrayal, but we should never forget the lessons.
00:01:40.240 We have to look out for ourselves.
00:01:45.140 We have to look out for each other.
00:01:48.040 Now, that didn't convince everyone.
00:01:49.960 In fact, I don't even think it convinced a lot of people.
00:01:53.280 There were almost 20 million votes cast in the election.
00:01:56.940 I think the dumbest one million people actually believed Trump was going to invade or something,
00:02:02.180 or at least they were afraid enough that they moved their votes to Carney and now look at us.
00:02:07.520 So, yeah, I'm frustrated.
00:02:09.440 Trump is America first.
00:02:10.780 But as our friend from Breitbart.com, Joel Pollack, reminded me,
00:02:14.260 it doesn't mean he supports politicians who are Canada first or Australia first or Israel first.
00:02:19.320 I think that Trump doesn't see himself as a kind of global leader of conservatism or populism or nationalism.
00:02:26.420 He cares about those principles, but he ultimately just cares about America first.
00:02:30.720 And so if he believes it's in America's interest to have a liberal Canadian leader,
00:02:35.060 he doesn't mind helping the liberal leader.
00:02:36.380 And he doesn't mind if he riles up the Canadian electorate to put one into power.
00:02:43.460 Now, we might, again, think that it's unfortunate.
00:02:46.180 And I happen to like the conservative leaders' policies in a number of ways, in many ways.
00:02:51.380 And, you know, many conservatives in the United States were quietly rooting for the conservative party.
00:02:55.460 At the same time, I do think that Trump believes that he can get a better deal from Canada in terms of trade if he applies this kind of pressure.
00:03:08.320 Do I like it in every case?
00:03:09.800 I don't.
00:03:10.160 But that's, I think, what his America first policy is about.
00:03:13.600 He just doesn't feel an obligation to the conservative party in Canada.
00:03:17.060 And he wants to get the United States to a better place.
00:03:19.300 And I think that it is possible that Trump believes that dealing with a weak liberal leader, and I do think Carney is going to be a weak leader.
00:03:26.920 I think his policies are terrible, and I think the public will sour on them very quickly in Canada.
00:03:31.680 I think Trump would prefer to have an unpopular and weak Canadian leader than to have somebody who is strong and able to articulate the Canadian national interest.
00:03:41.040 It's plausible that Trump prefers a weak Canada, though I don't see how that's in America's interest.
00:03:47.240 But I am overjoyed today to see the latest news from the Trump administration, news that absolutely will affect us here in Canada.
00:03:55.080 It's targeted at others, I think, Brazil, the U.K., France, Germany, but you bet it hits us, too.
00:04:01.880 Let me read straight from Secretary of State Marco Rubio's Twitter feed just a few hours ago.
00:04:06.780 He said,
00:04:07.120 For too long, Americans have been fined, harassed, and even charged by foreign authorities for exercising their free speech rights.
00:04:15.520 Today I am announcing a new visa restriction policy that will apply to foreign officials and persons who are complicit in censoring Americans.
00:04:23.460 Free speech is essential to the American way of life, a birthright over which foreign governments have no authority.
00:04:29.960 And then he had a follow-up comment.
00:04:31.680 He said,
00:04:32.600 Foreigners who work to undermine the rights of Americans should not enjoy the privilege of traveling to our country.
00:04:39.100 Whether in Latin America, Europe, or elsewhere, the days of passive treatment for those who work to undermine the rights of Americans are over.
00:04:47.780 Absolutely amazing.
00:04:48.980 So hopeful.
00:04:49.740 You know, there was a point in time when Trump lost the last election and when Biden was bringing in more censorship.
00:04:58.140 I thought censorship was like a ratchet.
00:05:00.760 You know, it's something that only goes one way, that could only get worse over time.
00:05:05.380 And it would be a combination of authoritarianism and big tech that would take away our right to dissent.
00:05:10.840 I thought the First Amendment, even though it was under attack, was still amazing, but it was only for Americans.
00:05:16.920 It would never apply to us in any way.
00:05:20.420 But when Trump won, everything became possible.
00:05:22.980 We had a premonition of what was coming when Mark Zuckerberg, who went so hard towards the Democrats, sort of saw the light and decided to fire his censors,
00:05:33.140 stop censoring conversations about topics like transgenderism, and he gave this speech and he mentioned that the State Department promised to have his back.
00:05:43.440 Remember this announcement?
00:05:44.280 We're going to work with President Trump to push back on governments around the world that are going after American companies and pushing to censor more.
00:05:53.000 The U.S. has the strongest constitutional protections for free expression in the world.
00:05:57.900 Europe has an ever-increasing number of laws institutionalizing censorship and making it difficult to build anything innovative there.
00:06:05.480 Latin American countries have secret courts that can order companies to quietly take things down.
00:06:10.560 China has censored our apps from even working in the country.
00:06:14.780 The only way that we can push back on this global trend is with the support of the U.S. government.
00:06:21.260 And that's why it's been so difficult over the past four years when even the U.S. government has pushed for censorship.
00:06:27.580 By going after us and other American companies, it has emboldened other governments to go even further.
00:06:33.140 Even a gazillionaire like Mark Zuckerberg can only stand up to foreign governments with the support of the State Department.
00:06:41.180 Mark Zuckerberg is subject to the laws of any jurisdiction he works in.
00:06:44.760 So he could only push the First Amendment so far in France and U.K. and Canada without America's State Department backing him up.
00:06:53.920 I think that's what we just saw today.
00:06:55.280 Now, I think Marco Rubio is more interested in places like Brazil, where there's an out-of-control judge named Alexandre Moraes.
00:07:04.540 Do you remember when we went down there, when he censored the entire Twitter platform for all of Brazil?
00:07:10.500 Because he was trying to get certain critics of the socialist government banned.
00:07:15.040 Twitter wouldn't do it, so he banned the whole app.
00:07:17.760 I went down there with one of my colleagues for a day. Remember that?
00:07:21.160 I'm here for a massive street rally in support of Jair Bolsonaro, the opposition leader and former president.
00:07:30.380 But what's very interesting is how many signs are here for freedom of speech and for Elon Musk.
00:07:37.420 There are also signs saying Moraes, Moraes, which means Moraes out.
00:07:44.340 Who is Moraes? He is an extremist judge who has been conducting secret trials censoring opposition leaders.
00:07:54.060 I'm going to show you this. This guy right here. He's dressed up as Alexandre de Moraes. What do you have to say?
00:08:00.060 We have to have courage. We have to have courage. We have to have freedom. We have to fight for the anistia of the people who are arrested unjustly.
00:08:09.780 They are parents and families. This is a retrace. This is the sacrifice of justice that we have today.
00:08:17.120 That was incredible. It was incredible to see 100,000, 200,000 people march for freedom of speech. I really loved it.
00:08:41.460 But I think Marco Rubio means Europe, too. Germany, where they're trying to ban the Alternative for Deutschland Conservative Party.
00:08:50.120 France, where they're trying to ban Marie Le Pen. The UK, when they've really cracked down on people from Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage.
00:08:57.540 Romania, which I think they just stole the election from the conservatives.
00:09:01.420 I was poking around the State Department on this, and they had an essay published by a State Department official.
00:09:08.120 Samuel Samson is his name. That's a great name.
00:09:11.460 I want to read a couple of excerpts from it for you. And this is the view of the Trump administration.
00:09:17.720 Let me read you. This is a little bit philosophical. He says,
00:09:21.360 Europe has devolved into a hotbed of digital censorship, mass migration, restrictions on religious freedom, and numerous other assaults on democratic self-governance.
00:09:30.320 It's interesting to me that they put mass migration in there.
00:09:33.800 These concerning trends have only increased in recent years.
00:09:37.260 In the United Kingdom, police are arresting Christians, such as Adam Smith-Connor and Livia Tosaki-Bolt, for silently praying outside of abortion clinics.
00:09:46.900 You know, we've been one of the few Canadian outlets that's covered that.
00:09:49.760 In 2023, over 12,000 British citizens were arrested for online posts, including comments critical of Europeans' migration crisis that authorities deem to be, quote, grossly offensive.
00:10:04.020 Yeah, that's just incredible. That's more than Russia arrested, by the way.
00:10:07.220 This environment also restricts Europe's elections.
00:10:11.320 As recently highlighted by Secretary Rubio, the popular alternative for Deutschland party was just labeled, quote, extremist organization by German intelligence, which could lead to the party's exclusion from the electoral process.
00:10:23.940 Leading French presidential candidate Marine Le Pen was charged with embezzlement and, departing from standard procedure, immediately banned from running.
00:10:31.420 Restrictions have likewise occurred in Poland and Romania against select political parties or politicians.
00:10:37.420 Simultaneously, Christian nations, like Hungary, are unjustly labeled as authoritarian and human rights abusers.
00:10:44.140 Now, that's very interesting because that's different than the tweets which talked about freedom of speech for American citizens.
00:10:50.400 Here you have the U.S. State Department worried about entire European nations for the Europeans' sake.
00:10:57.020 It's not mentioning any American citizens.
00:10:59.080 Let me read a little bit more, talking about the lawfare, talking about censorship.
00:11:02.660 Quote, Americans are familiar with these tactics.
00:11:04.780 Indeed, a similar strategy of censorship, demonization, and bureaucratic weaponization was utilized against President Trump and his supporters.
00:11:12.940 What this reveals is that the global liberal project is not enabling the flourishing of democracy.
00:11:17.500 Rather, it is trampling democracy and Western heritage, along with it in the name of a decadent governing class and of its own people.
00:11:25.880 Afraid of its own people. Pardon me.
00:11:27.100 Let me just tell you again what I was reading from.
00:11:29.520 That's not some op-ed in a newspaper.
00:11:32.700 That is an official State Department essay by a senior State Department executive.
00:11:41.160 This isn't the first that Marco Rubio has done.
00:11:43.360 You may recall a few months ago he shut down a major censorship office that was housed right in the U.S. State Department called the Global Engagement Center.
00:11:52.660 What a neutral vanilla name that is.
00:11:55.420 They had funded censorship advocacy around the world, including here in Canada.
00:11:59.980 It wouldn't surprise me if some of the funding from the State Department was deployed against Rebel News.
00:12:05.260 I want to show you some reaction to this.
00:12:07.200 Here's a publication that was done in January by Le Monde of France in reaction to some of the executive orders from President Trump.
00:12:18.860 So, again, this isn't just yesterday.
00:12:20.240 But I just love this French take on American freedom, which is sort of sad because, of course, the French were supportive of America.
00:12:28.360 The French helped in the Revolutionary War.
00:12:33.180 You know, France used to talk about liberté, égalité, fraternité.
00:12:37.500 Well, the first was freedom.
00:12:39.260 Look at this headline.
00:12:40.500 Brother, it's not a weapon.
00:12:48.480 Well, if it is, it's a shield, a shield to protect us.
00:12:51.760 Let me just quote a little bit.
00:12:54.040 Since the 1970s, the U.S. Supreme Court has defended a very broad conception of freedom of speech,
00:13:00.260 one that allows today Elon Musk's or Mark Zuckerberg's platforms to massively disseminate unverified or even deliberately false information.
00:13:11.960 Can you imagine that?
00:13:13.740 That they didn't stop and individual people who use Facebook or Twitter or X didn't have to first get the government to verify what they said.
00:13:23.660 Oh, my goodness.
00:13:25.780 That's Le Mans.
00:13:26.860 That's one of the premier flagship opinion journals in France.
00:13:32.120 You know, I was not pleased with what Donald Trump did to Canada.
00:13:35.100 I think he's the reason we have Mark Carney as prime minister instead of Pierre Pauli.
00:13:40.040 And I think Australia is in the same boat.
00:13:43.020 But this, sanctioning individual officers, politicians, bureaucrats who censor people, that is a kind of meddling I can get behind.
00:13:52.460 It's a kind of nation building, but not the kind that was tried in Iraq or Afghanistan, just pouring trillions of dollars into the desert, hoping people will suddenly become liberals.
00:14:03.060 This is being done to free-ish countries that have in their blood some liberalism left.
00:14:08.960 They've just forgotten how to be free.
00:14:11.080 It's sort of astonishing we have to teach the French again how to be free, or Germany is lapsing back into authoritarianism.
00:14:17.640 What I like about this is that it's a case of the emperor has no clothes.
00:14:23.860 Everybody knows about the censorship, but no one has called them out before.
00:14:28.620 The only people who have called out the censorship have been the people who are about to be silenced.
00:14:33.360 But, of course, they would say that.
00:14:34.680 It's like a medieval witch hunt.
00:14:36.980 Of course, the witch would say she's not a witch.
00:14:40.780 That's what any witch would do.
00:14:42.900 Or if she drowns, then she wasn't a witch.
00:14:46.080 If she doesn't drown, she's a witch.
00:14:48.280 It's one of those logical flaws.
00:14:51.440 To have the United States call out censorship from supposedly free countries is so new.
00:14:59.300 No one's done it before at that level.
00:15:00.880 Which brings me back to Canada, the country in which I live, the country that I was born in, the country I intend to fight to keep free.
00:15:08.780 I'm worried that Mark Carney is going to bring back Bill C-63, the Online Harms Act.
00:15:15.360 That would have three different censorship bureaucracies.
00:15:19.580 It would create a standalone crime of hate.
00:15:23.920 They would have life in prison.
00:15:25.180 There were so many crazy things.
00:15:26.740 We probably did ten shows about it.
00:15:28.180 But the one part of that law that's so touched on by this new Rubio effort is that it has special punishment sections for U.S. social media companies like X and Rumble and Facebook.
00:15:43.300 Where they audaciously say they would give tens of millions of dollars of fines and other consequences to Rumble and X and Facebook.
00:15:55.180 Obviously, that would apply to individuals, too.
00:15:58.180 Now, Marco Rubio saying he's going to stop this kind of censorship, even from friendly allies, is amazing.
00:16:05.560 And hopefully it'll stop different countries from bringing in the kind of censorship laws that Bill 63 is like.
00:16:12.160 I don't think it would apply to, you know, I don't think that Marco Rubio's efforts would apply to Rebel News in particular.
00:16:19.260 Because, you know, we're Canadian.
00:16:21.500 We have no ties to the U.S.
00:16:23.220 But I think enough Americans would get tangled up in any war on Rebel News or any other war on Canadian conservatives that it would trip the wire here.
00:16:32.400 I mean, if we're being censored on YouTube, Facebook or X, we're Canadian.
00:16:36.400 But that platform is American.
00:16:38.140 Do you see what I mean?
00:16:38.820 So the censorship would be done to us by a company with roots in America.
00:16:44.360 That's what might save us.
00:16:46.060 That would be our pipeline to the First Amendment.
00:16:49.280 What Marco Rubio just talked about probably has no direct connection to Rebel News.
00:16:55.980 I mean, I haven't seen the fine print.
00:16:57.460 But what it does is it gives our vendors, it gives our social media companies strength to stand up to the Mark Carney's of the world.
00:17:06.200 I think there are enough people who have a tome in both countries that they would trip the wire.
00:17:11.620 I mean, I understand that Dr. Jordan Peterson has moved to the States.
00:17:15.760 I don't know if that means he's becoming an American citizen.
00:17:18.820 But I think he would be one of the first people they would censor.
00:17:22.180 And that might trip this.
00:17:23.660 I imagine the censorship sanctions, sorry, the sanctions put on the censors in Canada.
00:17:29.840 And I'm thinking of Stephen Gilboa, who's now in a position to bring back C-63.
00:17:34.380 Wouldn't it be wonderful to have him banned, have sanctions on him that he could not travel to the United States if he tries to bring censorship to Canada?
00:17:43.340 But then again, I immediately remember that Stephen Gilboa probably can't travel to the U.S. right now, given that he's a convicted criminal.
00:17:53.660 I'll keep you posted on this important story.
00:17:55.820 Stay with us for more.
00:18:03.520 Drea Humphrey here with Rebel News, bringing you a report just before I'm leaving the Universal Ostrich Farms.
00:18:11.660 If those of you who've been following my reports at SaveTheOstriches.com, you know that I have been entrenched in a prairie convoy-style camp-out protest that's been rotating behind me over the Canadian Food Inspection Agency's plans to call the healthy flock of 400 ostriches behind me.
00:18:34.180 And not just any ostrich, not ostriches for human consumption, but ironically, and defying logic and science, ostriches whose robust antibodies are part of a research project with Japan that is, according to the farmers, very close to neutralizing the very virus that they say they have to kill these healthy birds from, based on two PCR tests, back in December.
00:19:02.260 That is the avian flu.
00:19:06.000 SaveTheOstriches.com is where all of our coverage is on here.
00:19:08.880 I'm going to tell you in this report why I'm heading out, why we think these birds are still alive, by the grace of God, some miracle, and why this story is not over.
00:19:22.540 We come home because this is going to be, it's going to be real soon, all right?
00:19:27.220 And so please understand the importance.
00:19:28.860 Maybe not, maybe not.
00:19:31.120 We're hoping not.
00:19:32.200 We're hoping not.
00:19:32.720 Yeah, it's not going to be real.
00:19:33.700 We're fighting it, we're fighting it.
00:19:35.460 We're not.
00:19:36.260 I think we got it.
00:19:37.780 We want enough food.
00:19:39.240 I want to thank each one of you self-sacrificing people who are putting yourselves in harm's way to protect some innocent animals that didn't do anything.
00:19:51.220 I really, there is not a better bunch of people on the world as far as I'm concerned.
00:19:55.440 So thank you for being here.
00:19:56.660 Thanks for standing with our family and these animals for the change that's necessary for the world because stamping out is not working.
00:20:03.020 So let's save the animals.
00:20:04.320 Yes.
00:20:04.900 Love you.
00:20:05.440 It's about democracy, accountability, and freedom for all of the things.
00:20:10.720 Where's the bullhorn when something goes down?
00:20:12.880 I was going to go back and grab it, but we actually have a couple.
00:20:15.680 Yeah, you're just a bullhorn.
00:20:17.000 That's another thing.
00:20:17.740 We learned from this.
00:20:18.700 But at the end of the night, I don't think anybody's going to make it this far without you already knowing that they're here.
00:20:24.660 Oh, I would like to make a motion that I don't know a party even.
00:20:27.900 Motion, I would like very much that we can get an e-bike for Darcy.
00:20:35.440 E-bike for Darcy.
00:20:36.640 E-bike for Darcy.
00:20:37.980 On the way.
00:20:38.640 I'm stuck in the motion.
00:20:40.260 There you go.
00:20:41.100 Darcy, you can get an e-bike.
00:20:43.320 Anybody else have anything to add?
00:20:46.300 I'm just happy to be here and happy to meet my new friends and happy to stick up for my big bird friends.
00:20:54.740 And I'll peacefully do things properly.
00:21:03.280 Thanks, guys.
00:21:05.260 All right.
00:21:12.040 I think that one's something that we need to set up.
00:21:15.200 I wanted to make sure that that would not be in the dark, that the world would see.
00:21:29.520 And the world is watching this place.
00:21:31.840 And I think that that is why these birds are still alive.
00:21:38.220 We have international pressure, as I've reported.
00:21:42.920 The Secretary of Health of the United States, Robert Kennedy Jr., who first spoke out about this on a radio show back in April,
00:21:51.800 has officially sent a very, very damning letter in the sense that it points out that if the Canadian Food Inspection Agency goes ahead and kills these ostriches,
00:22:07.880 instead of taking up the Secretary on his suggestion of working with the United States, our biggest trade partner,
00:22:17.160 to actually further their research to be able to do something special,
00:22:21.760 well, it really does expose that something else is at play here for why they want these birds dead.
00:22:30.260 I'm going to talk to the people about something else that you don't get to see as good in the reports.
00:22:35.800 I want to end on the note as I'm leaving here, because the sentiment is that for now, these birds are safe.
00:22:43.280 The appeal should make it in the courts on Monday.
00:22:47.820 And by the grace of God, these birds have made it until then, when the CFI could have marched in and taken care of them
00:22:57.580 and made any legal resource moot at that point.
00:23:01.780 So what I want to leave you with is the community that's formed and forming, because the fight is not over and they know that,
00:23:09.560 of people from across the country.
00:23:13.080 I've heard as far as Ontario have come here.
00:23:16.020 There's quite a few from Alberta.
00:23:17.600 And of course, most are from British Columbia, where nearly 9 million birds have been culled in the name of avian flu since 2022.
00:23:27.080 Right now, as it stands behind me over in the camp area, the declared first person in Canada to contract avian flu,
00:23:38.480 the 13-year-old previously nameless girl, Jocelyn, is here as well.
00:23:44.120 She came to stand with the birds.
00:23:45.880 The CFIA, I would love to be a fly on their wall discussing how this grassroots movement.
00:23:55.280 All right, Katie, what a battle, what a wild ride.
00:24:00.040 Yeah, it has been.
00:24:01.420 Oh my gosh.
00:24:02.280 Let's talk about what you think has happened.
00:24:04.960 Why do you think your birds are still alive?
00:24:08.480 Public opinion, people coming together to create change, unity, and everybody, farmers across the world,
00:24:16.020 believe that stamping out needs to be changed.
00:24:20.340 It just needs to be, the whole policy in that needs to be revisited to protect the farmers.
00:24:24.400 So I think we're just, everybody's watching, the world's watching, and I think it all matters.
00:24:30.260 That's why we're here.
00:24:31.020 Yeah, it's everybody coming together.
00:24:33.460 All right, this is Danielle.
00:24:34.760 Now, you've been here for a while camping out with your son.
00:24:37.940 What do you make of the community, and why was it important to be a part of it?
00:24:42.540 Yeah, the community's been amazing.
00:24:44.600 All walks of life.
00:24:45.560 The thing that's been so cool about this event, and I'm sure it's been said before, but it's not, there's like a political aspect, but it really transcends that.
00:24:53.980 It's not a left or right issue.
00:24:55.400 It's kind of just like, I think like a lot of things that are happening right now in the world, I think we're being called to look beyond.
00:25:03.980 Okay, this is Jeff.
00:25:05.020 Jeff, now you've been helping out behind the scenes.
00:25:07.220 I'm asking people about the community that's developing here so that people at home can get a sense for it.
00:25:12.380 What do you make of it?
00:25:14.040 Well, what you said there is exactly what's happening.
00:25:16.360 We have developed a fully functioning community.
00:25:20.240 This is far beyond a protest.
00:25:21.740 We have a camp kitchen.
00:25:24.920 We have showers.
00:25:26.600 We have bouncy castles.
00:25:28.740 We have cotton candy machines.
00:25:31.060 We have all the food, all the water you can imagine.
00:25:34.340 We have a volunteer team that is handling everything from security to cleaning camp, handling garbage, running the kitchen, chopping firewood.
00:25:45.860 And we're essentially building here in the midst of fighting for these ostriches, a community that it seems like our provincial and federal governments can't even get their act together and come up with.
00:25:59.400 It really is remarkable.
00:26:00.800 There is portable tent showers here as well.
00:26:04.860 I've never seen anything like that, but it's starting to all come together.
00:26:09.320 Yes.
00:26:10.200 Family bear?
00:26:11.600 Standing.
00:26:12.500 Standing.
00:26:13.180 Standing.
00:26:13.540 Okay, so this is standing bear.
00:26:16.400 Now, you've been here at least two days or more.
00:26:19.840 How long have you been here?
00:26:21.000 What do you make of the community that's forming?
00:26:24.080 Powerful community.
00:26:25.340 You know, when the medicine comes together from all nations, circles, and tribes, that's when the miracles, that's when the medicine really gathers.
00:26:33.560 And so I come here to be a part of that, to share that, to share the wisdom and the knowledge of my ancestors,
00:26:40.840 and to make that an offering to the people.
00:26:44.260 So now you're here, but why do you think the whole matter with the ostriches and Canada, you know, saying they're going to go ahead and kill them?
00:26:55.800 What's your thoughts on that?
00:26:57.100 Look how they treated our people for the over 150 years, true policies.
00:27:05.860 They don't care, and they still don't care.
00:27:09.340 That's what I think, and that's from my experience in my lifetime.
00:27:14.200 I'm a 60 scoop survivor.
00:27:16.700 All right, you guys came in this morning from Vernon.
00:27:20.940 Tell us what you're feeling now that you're here.
00:27:22.980 You saw the ostriches.
00:27:24.020 You saw the community.
00:27:25.340 What's it like?
00:27:26.220 Awesome.
00:27:27.200 The energy's awesome.
00:27:29.120 Ostriches are so beautiful, majestic, and absolutely amazing.
00:27:34.340 And I've never really been intrigued with ostriches, and I now am.
00:27:39.400 And I'm so glad I came, and I think you should come and check it out and definitely feel the energy, and it's a good thing.
00:27:48.840 It's all a good thing.
00:27:49.860 We have come from Kamloops, and it was an amazing trip to come here and see the ostriches.
00:27:55.300 I am amazed and so happy to see the community holding together and standing for what is right for this family and the ostriches.
00:28:04.680 They are important to our environment for the testing that the eggs are done for.
00:28:11.220 I'm absolutely so happy to see that we are all holding together, and I hope and pray that the government will understand what's happening here.
00:28:22.620 All right.
00:28:23.440 I heard them give you a little bit of a shout-out for helping out, and you look sad to go.
00:28:28.420 Why?
00:28:28.800 What is it about this place?
00:28:30.020 Oh, this place.
00:28:31.980 This place has been wonderful to be a part of.
00:28:36.780 I came for two days.
00:28:38.320 I think it's day 12 or 13.
00:28:40.320 I'm not too sure anymore.
00:28:42.440 But it's been, like, honestly, one of the best, most transformative experiences of my life, being here, seeing how people work together.
00:28:50.600 And we're calling this area where all the people coming the village because it takes the village, and that is kind of what we have seen, like, transpire from all of this.
00:29:00.000 Some people have been coming for a long time.
00:29:02.320 Some people just stop in for a day.
00:29:03.920 But just seeing everybody come together, work together for the cause, and everything just coming from that, it's been so amazing.
00:29:11.180 Colin Big Bear, you've been here for a while during the movement.
00:29:16.320 What do you have to say about the community that's formed and forming?
00:29:19.660 It's evolved.
00:29:22.140 It's evolving quickly.
00:29:23.560 When I first got here, there was nothing but a field there with a few people camping.
00:29:28.860 And now we put up a big tent a while back.
00:29:32.420 Now there's fridges.
00:29:34.100 There's freezers.
00:29:35.600 There's food pouring in from all over the local communities.
00:29:39.060 There's bakeries stepping up, offering us weekly bread.
00:29:42.780 There's a donation.
00:29:43.940 There was about $1,000 worth of meat that came in.
00:29:46.920 Organic food.
00:29:47.840 People are trying to feed us healthy food, so we're eating nutritional food here.
00:29:52.700 We are literally growing a community at the Universal Ostrich Farm, which is the most amazing thing I've ever got to witness.
00:30:01.780 And it's evolving all the time.
00:30:03.460 And there's more kind of, like, we're getting really in our integrity.
00:30:06.660 We just did a ceremonial circle here.
00:30:09.520 You can just take a peek over here quick.
00:30:11.720 And you can see we have a standing bear there.
00:30:14.080 He's Wayne Snellgrove.
00:30:15.880 He's from Fishing Lake First Nations.
00:30:17.580 He's a world-renowned medicine man from the Bear Clan.
00:30:20.340 And then there's Bev as well from Manitoba sitting next to him.
00:30:23.380 And these are my Bear Clan people.
00:30:24.660 We're from the Bear Clan.
00:30:26.140 And, you know, we were the healers of the tribes, you know, and we come here to help bring the people together.
00:30:30.660 So I really encourage all my Native people, you know, this is the time to unite the tribes, you know.
00:30:35.460 And we're seeing our waters being poisoned.
00:30:38.100 We're seeing the winds around the world blowing things over.
00:30:41.700 We're seeing the pharmaceuticals being poisoned.
00:30:44.240 You know, this is the time we bring everything back into alignment, you know.
00:30:47.440 We're seeing the fires ravaging the earth, and especially in these mountains here, these sacred mountains, you know.
00:30:52.400 And all the chemicals in the air.
00:30:54.820 And it's time we bring back the great balance and the great peace.
00:30:58.180 And we have to do that through healing and sitting in circle together.
00:31:00.580 And that's what we just did this morning.
00:31:01.920 We did a couple-hour ceremony.
00:31:03.880 Yeah, I think pretty much everybody's on board with exactly what's going on here.
00:31:11.500 I haven't seen or, like, heard a single person say, you know, they don't agree with what's happening and what you guys are, like, supporting.
00:31:20.240 So they're in full agreement with what's happening here, not what the government is trying to do.
00:31:26.200 Now, are these people politically or philosophically affiliated, or are they just randoms?
00:31:32.940 Well, they're randoms.
00:31:33.900 The problem is some of them, they're not quite awake yet, and they're being awakened.
00:31:40.200 And this is the...
00:31:41.200 Woo!
00:31:41.780 That's why we're here!
00:31:44.920 Middle market.
00:31:46.240 The middle market.
00:31:47.280 The ones that know that there's something wrong, but they don't know what it is.
00:31:50.840 They are on board.
00:31:52.860 The pet owners are on board.
00:31:55.200 RFK is on board.
00:31:57.500 I hate to say J-E-R with a couple letters mixed in there, but that happens too.
00:32:03.840 There's all kinds of stuff happening, folks.
00:32:06.080 Please have patience with us.
00:32:07.720 We're suffering from a lack of bandwidth right now.
00:32:10.800 Like, we have so much going on, we could use all the help that we can get.
00:32:15.000 All the help that we can get.
00:32:16.660 And the way it happens is that we all fall in line with each other.
00:32:19.840 Find somebody who's leading something and help them.
00:32:22.460 And if you're better at something, lead it.
00:32:25.520 Okay?
00:32:26.340 It's literally this...
00:32:28.960 This is the thing that unites everyone.
00:32:33.100 Everyone in the middle market can see this.
00:32:35.920 They see the injustice.
00:32:37.380 They see that they're not allowed to prove themselves innocent.
00:32:39.620 And they've had enough.
00:32:42.660 They've had enough.
00:32:43.940 I've had enough.
00:32:46.180 I've had enough.
00:32:47.420 I've seen it.
00:32:49.140 It's done.
00:32:50.200 It's done here and now if we govern ourselves appropriately.
00:32:53.800 We need to use kindness.
00:32:55.740 We need to come in behind people and support them.
00:32:58.340 If you see somebody distressed, please reach out.
00:33:01.480 We can solve all of it right here, right now.
00:33:05.200 By giving a crap about one another and standing up against that which would oppose us.
00:33:09.620 Oh, wow.
00:33:15.680 Amen.
00:33:16.280 Amen.
00:33:16.340 And now I get the great privilege and honor and...
00:33:22.280 To the lady who turned me on to this particular story back in December, January.
00:33:31.840 Yes, because I saw her footage and I saw that there was something going wrong.
00:33:37.100 And then when I started to investigate it, I realized there's something really bad going wrong here.
00:33:43.340 I'd like to introduce her now because without her, I wouldn't be here.
00:33:47.000 Sarah, come on up.
00:33:47.780 Hi, everybody.
00:33:54.740 Sarah is now your meeting leader-ish and it will rotate.
00:33:59.960 That's great.
00:34:04.100 Awesome.
00:34:04.780 She has been gracious enough to take this particular position over for me because we are trying to deal with other things.
00:34:15.880 And the meetings are so important and it's not about us talking and I really apologize for taking this much time.
00:34:21.560 It's really about where you can get your voice heard, everyone else can hear it, and we can all get on the same page.
00:34:27.460 That's how we win, okay?
00:34:29.740 And Sarah's going to do it.
00:34:33.180 All right.
00:34:33.580 Thanks, Jeff.
00:34:34.280 Awesome.
00:34:34.720 All right, yeah.
00:34:35.560 He asked me this two minutes ago.
00:34:37.900 So, yeah.
00:34:39.700 Anyway, I'm just going to follow what we've been doing.
00:34:42.340 So, if we could hear from who is running the kitchen or one of the people that is running the kitchen.
00:34:50.100 And if there's anything that you guys want to bring to the table right now.
00:34:53.960 Okay, yeah.
00:34:55.280 I don't know if Jess wants to say anything.
00:34:57.020 Or I can't.
00:34:57.980 You're filming right now.
00:34:59.200 You want me to light?
00:34:59.920 You want me to eat?
00:35:00.620 Sure, sure, sure.
00:35:01.500 Let's have Jess talk.
00:35:02.040 So, this is...
00:35:02.740 That's all right.
00:35:03.460 This is Miss Vic.
00:35:04.580 And this is Jess.
00:35:06.300 Exactly.
00:35:07.400 And I'll oversee, but Jess is really in charge of the kitchen.
00:35:12.120 She's in charge of the cooks and the cleanup.
00:35:15.220 I'm making sure that she's not doing it all.
00:35:18.420 Okay?
00:35:19.080 Thank you.
00:35:20.000 Good.
00:35:20.320 There's been a lot of, like, changes in transitional stuff and changing of plans.
00:35:24.940 It's coming together.
00:35:26.580 Like, we're really grateful.
00:35:28.000 We need volunteers.
00:35:29.660 We're trying to figure out the best way to know how many people are here so we know how
00:35:33.180 to feed them.
00:35:34.120 Do we want to do the sign-up sheet?
00:35:36.100 I think that's a good idea.
00:35:36.900 So, we were talking about the idea of doing a sign-up sheet.
00:35:40.340 So, like, tonight, if you're going to be here tomorrow, can you please come sign up if you
00:35:44.800 are coming for breakfast?
00:35:46.180 That's going to streamline things because this is a huge property.
00:35:49.720 There's a lot of things happening in the background that people aren't even aware of.
00:35:53.040 But, like, it's hard knowing who's here.
00:35:55.700 It's hard knowing who's hungry.
00:35:57.120 Hey!
00:35:58.840 But we want to feed you all.
00:36:00.160 We don't want anybody disappointed and hungry.
00:36:01.700 We want everybody happy because these are our supporters, and we're so thankful everybody
00:36:05.800 is here and is coming through and is working on this because it's been beautiful and so
00:36:10.440 inspirational.
00:36:11.680 But, yes, let's start a kitchen sign-up.
00:36:13.660 So, if you're going to be here for breakfast, can you please put your name on the list?
00:36:16.900 And we're going to try that.
00:36:18.580 We're going to get it created.
00:36:19.980 This is going to help us with waste as well because there was a lot of waste for a bit
00:36:24.160 because we didn't know who was going to be eating and not.
00:36:26.420 So, that'll help.
00:36:28.520 And, also, as we announce, this is all going to come out with the press release that's
00:36:33.280 about to come out, too, that the food is going to be for the volunteers and their families.
00:36:37.880 And this is going to help us so that we don't have people going just to eat or whatever.
00:36:43.820 And we've got a lot of things coming into play.
00:36:45.740 So, just so people know, too, my name's Elena.
00:36:49.400 I'm also on the logistics team.
00:36:51.440 And I'm overseeing volunteers now and running around on other things.
00:36:59.660 And if you have any concerns and stuff, you're welcome to bring them to me and I can bring
00:37:02.920 them to Jim.
00:37:04.540 So, yeah, we're all here together as a team.
00:37:09.080 And we need as many volunteers as possible right now.
00:37:12.420 And everything's coming into place.
00:37:14.940 And you'll see, the next few days are going to be amazing.
00:37:17.540 We've got a lot of amazing stuff coming into place.
00:37:19.600 And it's going to be great, you guys.
00:37:21.380 Thank you.
00:37:21.980 And family-friendly and love and unity.
00:37:25.000 That's what it's all about.
00:37:25.900 We're all together.
00:37:26.440 We're a family.
00:37:27.280 I don't know how you do it.
00:37:28.460 There's been so many ups and downs and so many really good moments.
00:37:32.820 I had a tear in my eye a couple of times.
00:37:34.660 One was when Robert Kennedy Jr., when you were reading the letter to the people, it seemed
00:37:40.040 so surreal.
00:37:41.500 Tell us a little bit about the community that you've got forming here.
00:37:45.820 From your perspective, why is it important to have that?
00:37:48.880 And what is it about?
00:37:50.220 I think it's honestly, it's a big, beautiful, functional community.
00:37:54.180 Everybody volunteers.
00:37:55.760 We have a little bit of a kitchen just offering people food if they need it.
00:38:00.420 People are bringing in stuff to share.
00:38:02.600 They're praying together.
00:38:04.260 We have the native culture here.
00:38:06.240 We have different beliefs here.
00:38:08.660 And the one goal, which is just to protect our farmers and our animals.
00:38:16.940 It's just been overwhelming.
00:38:18.540 But the support, I think, is, I don't think I know it's why we're still here.
00:38:24.240 It's, yeah, it's been overwhelming.
00:38:26.900 It's been an overwhelming five months.
00:38:28.300 Now tell us what is next.
00:38:31.160 What's next?
00:38:31.980 Yeah, what is next on the legal front and what is next for how you want the public to
00:38:38.100 engage?
00:38:39.160 So what's next is, obviously, they've been put on notice about an appeal and a stay order
00:38:44.220 that's been acknowledged by the Canadian Food Inspection Agency.
00:38:47.100 Um, we are still pushing forward very much with public opinion and awareness and education
00:38:52.560 around the matter of avian influenza and the migratory bird status, that as long as there's
00:38:58.180 migratory birds in the world, we will never be avian influenza free, which even Robert Kennedy,
00:39:02.620 Secretary Kennedy, was very great to say.
00:39:05.780 Um, so I think awareness, education, keep pushing forward, keep uniting people to come
00:39:11.260 together, not, not separate and divide.
00:39:13.420 Um, and I think that's where we just need to keep our focus is, uh, trying to save our
00:39:18.960 farmers.
00:39:19.960 Is there a petition or something?
00:39:21.880 Sorry, my goodness is like, yeah.
00:39:23.860 Did you guys start a petition?
00:39:25.880 Or is that something else?
00:39:27.080 We are starting a parliamentary petition as well, that it, that will be in the works.
00:39:31.980 Um, and I do know that a lot of other people have started different petitions.
00:39:35.860 So a lot of those, I, again, um, would just like to say that Universal Ostrich Farm, the
00:39:41.140 spokesperson for here is me.
00:39:43.140 Um, so, you know, if you do read anything or if you, even if you hear it's, um, stuff
00:39:48.500 from people, it's not a direct reflection of possibly the way we, what our beliefs are
00:39:54.960 and our standards here.
00:39:57.580 We are, we hold, hold ourselves here pretty, um, oh, that's not good.
00:40:03.900 That's okay.
00:40:04.240 Uh, the question was, well, I thought the petition was yours.
00:40:08.060 That's why I wanted to go off.
00:40:09.160 I just wanted to say like, there's a, what would you say?
00:40:11.360 There's a lot of stuff online.
00:40:13.140 Just direct them where to go.
00:40:14.620 Just, just, yeah.
00:40:15.600 Oh, yeah.
00:40:15.800 Just, just say, start over what you say.
00:40:18.380 We're going to be having a parliamentary petition and the best place to keep up with that.
00:40:22.860 Yeah.
00:40:23.000 Yeah.
00:40:23.420 Okay.
00:40:24.000 Um, we are starting a parliamentary petition and the best place to go and find out any new
00:40:29.660 information is saveourostriches.com.
00:40:32.180 You will gather the best, uh, and the most honest information from there as well as here.
00:40:37.660 Uh, you can go to Katie Pasitni.
00:40:39.980 I'm trying to update people daily.
00:40:43.080 Um, but that petition I think will be very important to go along with all the other letters
00:40:46.540 that you can sign and send off from saveourostriches.com.
00:40:50.740 Well, it has been quite the fight.
00:40:53.120 It's a magical place here.
00:40:54.680 I got to tell you, I think journalistically I can go home now.
00:40:59.660 And I'm so happy.
00:41:01.280 I'm going home on such a happy, hopeful note.
00:41:05.260 And thanks for having Rebel News here.
00:41:07.300 Thank you.
00:41:07.920 And everybody just, um, keep up your prayers because there is still an open call order.
00:41:12.380 So let's just keep up our prayers and, uh, and all the support.
00:41:15.080 Thank you for being here.
00:41:16.360 It's been absolutely amazing.
00:41:20.020 Thanks.
00:41:20.620 Are we hugging?
00:41:23.040 Oh, it gets me emotional.
00:41:25.000 I just want to remind you that all of our coverage, uh, which has been going on for months,
00:41:30.860 uh, is at save the ostriches.com.
00:41:34.400 We have a one click option where you can click and fire off emails to make sure you're involved
00:41:39.460 in the public pushback.
00:41:40.520 If you'd like to do that respectfully and you can support our coverage for me to not just
00:41:46.040 be out here, not just to drive out here, not just to rent the van, not just to get the
00:41:52.240 Starlink, not just to, um, be here, but to actually channel all of my reports in the BC
00:42:00.640 Bureau to this cause that I think is so pertinent.
00:42:03.680 All of our coverage while I've been here in BC has been aimed at this because if you
00:42:09.040 threat, if the threat to our food, our sovereignty, our farming is a threat to Canada.
00:42:17.960 And if research birds for COVID, if our government, our liberal government can't find a reason to
00:42:24.300 save those, no animal is safe.
00:42:27.720 No farmer is safe.
00:42:29.380 So if you appreciate that, I came here to do such coverage, go to save the ostriches.com
00:42:35.400 and chip in what you can to help us recoup and keep going strong.
00:42:45.280 Hey, welcome back.
00:42:46.180 Your letters to me, Laura Mello says, Donald Trump needs to bring Tommy to the White House
00:42:51.780 and have him tell his story.
00:42:53.180 We need to stop the globalists and stop the multiculturalism push.
00:42:56.340 Enough is enough.
00:42:57.020 Yeah, you know what?
00:42:59.120 I think, I think Tommy Robinson and Donald Trump would get along.
00:43:02.960 It reminds me of when, um, Conor McGregor, the, um, Irish, uh, mixed martial artist and
00:43:10.440 entrepreneur and, and possible future candidate visited the White House on St. Patrick's Day.
00:43:15.820 I mean, I think that, I think there's a stylistic fit.
00:43:19.340 A letter from Engel who says, I'm a 52-year-old Englishman.
00:43:23.320 I've been on the left of politics my adult life.
00:43:25.920 I used to dismiss Tommy as a racist like the old National Front.
00:43:29.140 Times have changed.
00:43:30.160 As far as I can see, he's the only one standing up for these abused children.
00:43:33.500 The Labor Party and the Tories are part of the same establishment now with an agenda that
00:43:37.620 the majority of British people don't want.
00:43:39.280 Another comment on Tommy by Jazzy B. Heaven.
00:43:43.640 As a British Indian Sikh lady, I stand with Tommy Robinson.
00:43:46.960 He's not far right.
00:43:47.740 He's just right so far.
00:43:49.300 This man is a truth warrior and should be given the respect, recognition, and love he deserves.
00:43:54.120 Well, thank you for your kind words.
00:43:55.740 I tell you, it was so, so ridiculous.
00:43:58.320 I flew there.
00:43:59.060 I landed.
00:44:00.320 Um, by the time I got out of the airport, it was around 7 a.m.
00:44:03.160 I took a cab up to Luton, which is where Tommy was.
00:44:07.180 I had breakfast with him.
00:44:08.880 Uh, actually, his son was there and some friends.
00:44:11.040 And then he went to get cleaned up with a haircut and all that.
00:44:14.160 So I interviewed him.
00:44:15.140 And then I went straight back in the cab.
00:44:17.800 And I went, I think I was on the 2 p.m. flight or something.
00:44:20.880 I'd have to, I can't remember.
00:44:22.200 It was such a short period of time.
00:44:24.080 I'm a little jet lagged still.
00:44:26.020 I love to cover the things over there, but I also feel a tremendous obligation to be here
00:44:30.440 in Canada because this is what we care about.
00:44:32.360 But think about the subject of my monologue just a few minutes ago.
00:44:38.580 It's about the United States trying to free countries around the world that are having
00:44:42.920 problems with censorship and whose politicians want to denormalize and de-platform anyone
00:44:48.180 who disagrees.
00:44:49.460 So Tommy Robinson is part of that story.
00:44:52.280 And Rebel News might be part of that story if the censorship comes back with Mark Carney,
00:44:56.340 and I fear it might.
00:44:57.380 So I think these are related stories.
00:44:59.100 I think it's fascinating to see what's going on in other countries.
00:45:03.020 I hope that I am never in prison for seven months.
00:45:06.900 And God forbid in solitary confinement, I honestly don't know if I have the stuff to last that
00:45:13.440 long.
00:45:13.800 Tommy's remarkable in that he does walk towards the flame like that.
00:45:19.720 And I enjoyed catching up with him, and I saw his son and his friends there, and I'm really
00:45:25.820 glad he's out.
00:45:26.760 I think he still needs some time to recalibrate.
00:45:30.520 You can't be in seven months solitary confinement without being psychologically wobbled.
00:45:34.760 So hopefully he'll have a chance to catch up with friends.
00:45:38.180 That's the show for today.
00:45:39.900 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,
00:45:43.960 good night, and keep fighting for freedom.
00:45:46.140 We'll see you next time.