13 Canadian Premiers flew down to Washington D.C. to meet with Donald Trump. Trouble is, Trump was busy, and no one at the White House was able to make it. But can you blame Trump? Justin Trudeau couldn t be there, so why should he? I ll tell you what Trump was doing instead.
00:07:07.140But at least the liberals will get to play the patriots, which is quite something for them after spending a decade denigrating any Canadian patriots or sense of Canadian history or culture or even the flying of the Canadian flag.
00:07:19.660They said that was alt-right, remember?
00:07:22.400So the premiers, they were finally in Washington, D.C.
00:07:25.840Three months late, but still they're there.
00:07:27.780Except for provincial premiers typically don't get face time with the president of the United States.
00:07:33.900I mean, politicians try to have some sort of parity.
00:07:37.420A foreign minister will meet with another country's foreign minister.
00:07:41.680A president or head of government will meet with another president or prime minister.
00:07:46.140It really would be rare for a president to meet with premiers at all, although 13 of them at once is more impressive.
00:07:53.600My obvious point being, though, Trudeau wasn't there.
00:08:56.560We had frank conversations about the 51st state comment, where we underlined that that was a non-starter.
00:09:02.920That was obviously consistent among all the premiers.
00:09:06.540And for my part, just underlining how important it was to share information and concerns related to fentanyl on the border with the premiers as well.
00:09:15.960There are enforcement actions that we can take to make sure that information is flowing.
00:09:19.620If these are the key points of frustration for the president, we want to take action on those things, too.
00:09:23.820Deputy Chief of Staff James Blair and Director of Presidential Personnel Sergio Gore.
00:09:37.600Now, there's nothing wrong with meeting staff at the White House.
00:09:41.020But it's like going to an important office somewhere and being told, you don't have an appointment, you'll have to come back later, leave a message with the receptionist, and they'll pass it on.
00:09:54.340I mean, the government of Canada has hundreds of bureaucrats and diplomats in Washington whose job is nothing but make connections.
00:10:02.420Sounds like none of their phone calls are being answered, is my guess, if 13 premiers go to the White House and really are being pawned off on some staff.
00:10:13.860I see Trudeau has hired a new lobbying firm for $85,000 a month.
00:10:21.620I mean, obviously, I don't know who's who in Washington, but this firm just started a few months ago, I understand.
00:11:02.540B.C. Premier David Eby says premiers had a frank conversation with Trump administration officials about the 51st state comments and stressed it's a non-starter.
00:11:12.620Eby says the two representatives, Deputy Chief of Staff James Blair and Director of Presidential Personnel Sergio Gore, agreed to share a few items with Trump.
00:11:21.840Willingness to engage, work on key areas of agreement.
00:13:53.800And normally, the King of Jordan isn't a particularly important person in the world, no disrespect.
00:13:58.380But Trump is working on him to help with Gaza.
00:14:02.700One of the things that we can do right away is take 2,000 children that are either cancer children or in a very ill state to Jordan, as quickly as possible,
00:14:14.600and then wait for, I think, the Egyptians to present their plan on how we can work with the president to work on the Gaza challenges.
00:14:22.420I want to tell you, excuse me, wait, just please, I didn't know that, what you just said, 2,000 children with cancer or other problems, and that's really a beautiful gesture.
00:14:36.900That's really good, and we appreciate it.
00:14:38.900Trump really wants to solve this Gaza problem.
00:14:41.420He wants to fix the whole Middle East.
00:14:43.660And here's the King of Jordan, which is actually 70% of the territory historically called Palestine.
00:14:49.240Trump needs to talk with him and needs to get him on board with his Gaza plan.
00:14:53.900And that's an important meeting to take today.
00:14:57.540Oh, just meeting Narendra Modi, the prime minister of the, or the president of the, sorry, I can't remember if he's prime minister or president of India, the largest country in the world.
00:15:08.820A couple of days ago, it was Japan's new prime minister.
00:15:11.500Trump is working with Elon Musk in rooting out massive bureaucratic waste.
00:15:15.780Here's a scene from their joint press conference a couple of days ago where there was Elon Musk, President Trump, and little X, Elon's son.
00:15:24.900So the, at a high level, if you say, what is the goal of Dojo, or, and I think a significant part of the presidency is to restore democracy.
00:15:38.340This may seem like, well, are we in a democracy?
00:15:40.640Well, if you don't have a feedback with FX, we'd have to.
00:15:46.980I tell you, gravitas can be difficult sometimes.
00:15:51.300So if there's not a good feedback loop from the people to the government, and if you have rule of the bureaucrat, if the bureaucracy is in charge, then what meaning does democracy actually have?
00:16:06.620If the people cannot vote and have their will be decided by their elected representatives in the form of the president and the Senate and the House, then we don't live in a democracy.
00:16:19.660Oh, yeah. And then there's that little thing. Yesterday, while the 13 premiers were being given coffee and snacks by some junior staff, yesterday Trump spoke with Vladimir Putin of Russia, and then Vladimir Zelensky of Ukraine, to get the peace process underway.
00:16:39.360I don't see any way. I don't see any way that a country in Russia's position could allow them, just in their position, could allow them to join NATO.
00:16:49.020I don't see that happening. And long before President Putin, Russia was very strong on the fact that I believe that's the reason the war started, because Biden went out and said that they could join NATO, and he shouldn't have said that.
00:17:01.200As soon as he said that, I said, you know what? You're going to have a war now. And I was right about that. This is a war that would have never happened if I were president.
00:17:08.740You don't think it's President Biden's fault, not President Putin?
00:17:11.320I think Biden is incompetent. And I think when he said that they could join NATO, I thought that was a very stupid thing to say.
00:17:19.940I thought when he said, well, it depends if it's a minor incursion. In other words, it's okay if Russia does a minor incursion.
00:17:27.720And I thought that was a very foolish thing to say.
00:17:31.080I'm told that Joe Biden did not have a single phone call with Vladimir Putin since the war began.
00:17:38.940I mean, I understand putting on a brave face, but you don't even have a back channel phone conversation.
00:17:45.820I understand it's the same thing with the Secretary of State under Biden, Antony Blinken.
00:17:50.520You don't have even diplomatic back channels. I find that astonishing to hear.
00:17:55.900We know that since the Cold War, there's been that hotline between Moscow and Washington.
00:18:00.860It's sort of shocking to me that three years has gone by with not a single conversation.
00:18:04.980Anyways, that's about a year's worth of work that I've just listed from, yeah, and we haven't even talked about all of it.
00:27:45.780And let's be honest, it's hard for the democracies around the world, who are there to support
00:27:51.060their citizens, who are investing for the future, who are challenged with a challenging
00:27:55.600economy around the world, to continue to step up as Canada has with close to $9 billion in
00:28:02.140aid for Ukraine. But we will because the cost on Canadians, on our lives, on our world will be so
00:28:09.500much greater if Putin wins this war that we will and have to stand every single day until Ukraine wins this war.
00:28:18.380It's too dangerous for me to visit Ukraine, but when I visited the Ukraine pavilion at the World Economic Forum in Davos last month, I had a heart-to-heart with a Ukrainian hero who wanted to talk about peace.
00:28:32.320I think that's because so many of his friends and family have died in the war.
00:28:37.420I think it's different having skin in the game, isn't it? Rather than just being an internet keyboard warrior, as so many are, especially in Canada.
00:28:45.780Now, Donald Trump famously said he could end the war in one day. Obviously, that hasn't happened, but I think both President Zelensky and President Putin have expressed interest in hearing President Trump's plan, and it sounds like they are open-minded in participating in some sort of negotiated solution.
00:29:09.700Does that accurately reflect Ukraine's position?
00:29:12.020Well, I can't speak on behalf of Ukraine's position, but as an American resident and somebody who is passionate about the Ukrainian cause, I can tell you that the ceasefire cannot come soon enough.
00:29:23.600What we need is lasting peace and a fair peace, and I'm happy to see Trump and Zelensky talking about how to make that happen.
00:29:30.140What is missing is the desire for Putin to come to the table and negotiate.
00:29:33.940So what I expect will happen is we'll need further sanctions on Russia to bring them to the negotiating table, and then some kind of agreement can be hammered out.
00:29:42.860But I'm not positive that it will happen this year.
00:29:46.980Now, you said you want a ceasefire soon.
00:29:49.980I want it soon because I want to stop the loss of life.
00:29:55.540On the other hand, I want to make sure that that's not a capitulation for Ukraine.
00:32:10.140And again, I sympathize absolutely with Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia.
00:32:14.980Those are the three little Baltic countries that were seized by the Soviets.
00:32:19.480And really, Russia did everything they could to break them.
00:32:22.980They were under the Soviet yoke for the better part of a century.
00:32:26.220So I understand the skepticism and aversion of anyone in Estonia.
00:32:31.660But this former prime minister of Estonia, population 1.3 million, is now the foreign minister for the entire European Union, which is an astonishingly large claim to make.
00:32:45.180It's sort of odd to me, given that there are 27 different countries in the European Union.
00:32:49.500And clearly, they don't all share the same view.
00:32:54.220This is Kaya Kalas talking about Trump's announcement.
00:32:59.600Membership in NATO is the strongest security guarantee there is.
00:33:02.840And actually, it's also the cheapest security guarantee there is.
00:33:06.000If we are saying that, you know, it's not going to be NATO membership, but it's going to be some other security guarantees, then the question needs to be answered by everybody.
00:33:17.520What are these security guarantees really?
00:33:19.940Again, I would say that, you know, we shouldn't take anything off the table before the negotiations have even started.
00:33:27.360Because it plays to Russia's court and it is what they want.
00:33:31.920Why are we giving them everything that they want even before the negotiations have been started?
00:33:47.940No, again, I want to say that, you know, if there is agreement made behind our backs, it will simply not work because you need for any kind of deal, any kind of agreement.
00:33:58.940You need Europeans to implement this deal.
00:34:02.000You need the Ukrainians to implement this deal.
00:34:04.700So, I mean, that doesn't also look good if somebody agrees something.
00:34:08.780And I mean, everybody else has said, OK, fine, you have agreed, but we will not follow this.
00:34:14.160The Ukrainians will, Ukrainians will resist and we will support them.
00:34:18.580That sounds a bit like a complaint over turf.
00:34:22.080Trump basically said he's going to do the deal with Putin and Zelensky.
00:34:25.100I'm quite certain Trump would listen to the United Kingdom on this.
00:34:28.420They were such a military support of Ukraine and perhaps some others.
00:34:31.900But I don't know if he's going to hand a veto over the young Kaya Kalos of Estonia,
00:34:36.920because I don't think that Kaya Kalos of Estonia or Kaya Kalos, the unelected foreign minister of the European Union,
00:35:52.980The Four Negotiation Roles of Donald J. Trump.
00:35:55.760And it's written by an academic named Eugene B. Kogan.
00:35:58.700So understand, this is not the art of the deal.
00:36:01.280This is a scholar who's read all of Trump's books, watched a ton of Trump videos, and has tried to study it and say, well, is there a Trump way?
00:36:12.100And here's a bit of the abstract, which is the official academic summary.
00:36:42.400After assessing the opposing side, Trump uses leverage to threaten his counterpart's weaknesses,
00:36:50.440while using bravado to play up the advantages of reaching an agreement on his terms.
00:36:55.480This way, he presents a drastic, structured choice to his opponents, leaving them the least maneuvering space.
00:37:02.000In the final section of the paper, I illustrate how the four-role framework helps explain Trump's decisions in the nuclear negotiations with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.
00:37:12.380I also consider opportunities for further research.
00:37:16.120I've read that paper twice now in the last week.
00:37:19.240I think it's really interesting to read how Trump operates if you sort of try and analyze it and to find an underlying theory.
00:37:25.780And the scholar here himself acknowledges this is important, that there's obviously a lot going on under the radar that Trump hasn't written about or talked about.
00:37:36.360But still, there's a lot to learn because Trump does do a lot of his negotiating out in public, all of which is to say, Trump's a bit busy right now.
00:37:44.820Trump, in his mind, he's saving the world or running the world or, depending on your point of view, he's destroying the world or whatever you think he's doing.
00:37:57.280Kings and princes and presidents and prime ministers are hanging on his every word.
00:38:01.320They're lined up to meet him either in the White House or Mar-a-Lago.
00:38:04.300Trillions of dollars are at stake, millions of lives, the destiny of the United States.
00:38:08.580And I would say all of Western civilization.
00:38:10.840You can forgive Donald Trump for not jamming in a meeting that sounds like it was hastily organized with 13 Canadian provincial premiers if Justin Trudeau himself doesn't think it was important enough to do.
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00:39:27.140Hey, it was just a month ago when I was standing on the sidewalk near my own house, and there was a pro-Hamas protest on the street where these activists were reenacting the last moments of Yahya Sinwar, the terrorist leader himself.
00:40:31.500Ezra Levant is a journalist and publisher of Rebel News, and yesterday he was arrested while reporting on a pro-Palestinian protest in a Jewish neighborhood of Toronto.
00:40:43.580Over the last hour or so, we've been getting updates about Ezra Levant, the chief of Rebel Media, who has been arrested by the pro-Islamist police force of Justin Trudeau's Toronto.
00:40:56.760Well, that seems to be breaking out all over the place, where your mere presence is so odious that police consider it grounds for arrest.
00:41:10.560And here she is being accosted by a police officer who says her mere presence, simply standing there, is so upsetting that if she doesn't move, she'll be charged criminally.
00:41:58.840So because somebody knows who I am, then that's causing them harassment?
00:42:03.300Because you're the leader of an anti-abortion organisation, it is causing people to these issues.
00:42:07.840I'm not going to go into the internet out of it, because you know that. You know you shouldn't be here.
00:42:11.080No, I don't. I don't. I think I'm perfectly entitled to be here.
00:42:13.700I'm going to ask you politely to move. Would you do that for me, please? Would you leave 150 metres above the zone?
00:42:17.560I really don't see that I need to. I'm literally just standing here silently saying some prayers.
00:42:21.160Is there anything I can reasonably say or do to make you leave at this moment in time?
00:42:24.360I don't think that is a reasonable thing to ask me to do, simply because of my beliefs that I'm being asked to move.
00:42:31.420Well, that's Isabel Vaughn-Spruce, who joins us now via Skype from Birmingham, along with Lois McClatchy Miller, who is with the Alliance Defending Freedom, who is helping Isabel fight back.
00:42:43.540Isabel, first of all, congratulations on holding your ground, and I think you've proved yet again the wisdom of recording your interactions with police.
00:42:53.580It's a scary thing to do. I mean, someone, I guess in the UK, cops don't have guns, but nonetheless, they are intimidating.
00:43:01.420So good for you for holding your ground. Tell us a little bit more about that encounter. When was that? And how did it end? Were you, in fact, arrested?
00:43:11.240Yeah, so this happened about a week ago in Birmingham, and it becomes even more ludicrous when you realise the backstory to this, that already I was arrested previously for my silent prayers on exactly the same spot.
00:43:23.380I went to court. I went to court. I was acquitted. I was rearrested two weeks later by six police officers who took me away in a police van, telling me my prayers were an offence.
00:43:33.920And even after that, I had police officers coming out, trying to give me tickets, telling me I'd be fined.
00:43:39.080And in the end, I had to resort to making a claim against the police for unlawful arrest, for false imprisonment and for assault. And I received a settlement for that.
00:43:49.020And now, since then, this has happened. So, you know, before I was being told that my prayers were an offence. Now, effectively, it's me that's the offence.
00:43:57.980It's all very well giving me compensation. But if that doesn't translate into changes, what's it worth?
00:44:03.480It was never about me being out of pocket. It was about officers across the force behaving very unprofessionally or grossly misunderstanding the law, which still seems to be happening.
00:44:14.500You know, there are some people who get a black mark against them. It's almost like the police are instructed, go after this person.
00:44:22.040And if I'm not mistaken, the U.S. Constitution talks about bills of attainder, which is basically get Isabel, like a law that would be so directly tailored to you.
00:44:32.780Based on what you've just said, it seems to me someone in authority has marked you in some way.
00:44:39.180Like the fact that you sued, and I understand you won 13,000 pounds, which is about 23,000 Canadian dollars.
00:44:46.240That's not nothing. I mean, that's symbolic.
00:44:48.500Even if it was $1, the courts found for you and against them, that's what's confusing to me here is normally I say to people, sue, fight back.
00:44:58.580Well, you did. And yet the bad guys are still coming. What's going on?
00:45:04.300It seems to me like the police have already decided their own agenda, and they're rewriting the law to fit that.
00:45:10.620And that's not how policing works. That's not how the law works.
00:45:13.760The law is what it is. You know, the public street is a public street, and I am a member of the public.
00:45:19.560Being almost as inoffensive as you could possibly be, I'm standing silently on that public street.
00:45:25.900So if that's how low the bar is for criminality, then every person walking down that street should have broken the law already just by virtue of being there.
00:45:34.660The law does not say that you can't come within 150 metres of an abortion centre, as the police officer told me.
00:45:40.500It's certain behaviours within that zone, including protesting, which I never do outside an abortion centre, and I certainly was not doing on that occasion.
00:45:48.740So we're really seeing two-tier policing because, you know, there's lots of people in that street who some people might find certain things that they believe to be offensive.
00:45:58.660You know, there's abortion workers who, you know, walk down that street, and some people might find their work offensive.
00:46:05.480But that doesn't mean they're not allowed to walk down the street.
00:46:07.800We can't start criminalising people, you know, because we disagree with them, which is essentially what has happened here.
00:46:14.820You know, I presume you're Christian, and you were having a quiet prayer in your own mind.
00:46:19.280And I think that, in particular, has been deemed offensive by the police.
00:46:24.460I was in London for a massive rally of about 100,000 supporters of Hamas.
00:46:55.460In Canada, you can sue the government for violating your rights, and you can sue for a kind of punitive damage against the government called charter damages.
00:47:04.160That's just what it's called in Canada.
00:47:05.400And you can sue for an enormous amount to sort of teach the government a lesson.
00:47:11.040It would be sort of the equivalent of exemplary damages in civil court.
00:47:14.700I don't mean to get into too much jargon.
00:47:16.340I'm just saying if the government keeps on misbehaving, courts have the power to really punish them.
00:47:24.180Is there such a thing in the United Kingdom?
00:47:26.160If the police continue to harass Isabel, even though the courts have exonerated her, is there some way to tackle the police in a way to get them to comply with the law themselves?
00:47:39.760Well, this actually forms part of a broader story, which Isabel has been involved with, where we've constantly seen police step out of bounds of the law when it comes to buffer zones, these zones that the government have implemented around 150 metres from abortion facility.
00:47:57.200Not just at the door, but across several streets.
00:48:00.120Unfortunately, the confusion that we've seen is that while Isabel has interactions where she's able to prove that the police have been in Iran, in other parts of the country, we have other individuals that we're supporting who have been convicted for nothing more than standing, praying silently in their head.
00:48:14.180Adam Smith-Connor was a military veteran in Bournemouth, and just in October there, he was found guilty of a crime because of his silent prayers in his head.
00:48:23.840Adam Smith-Connor will be supporting him to appeal that judgment in July, so I think what we're seeing is a difference across the country, depending on where you are, police might interpret this law differently, and to us that says, well, it's a bad law, it's too vague.
00:48:37.120It's too vague if these police officers see it so differently between one person standing silently getting a payout of £13,000 and one person getting a conviction in which they had to pay the authorities £9,000.
00:48:50.400And so I think what we're pushing for right now is clarity, it's for the government to come out and say, you know what, silent prayer is never a crime, thoughts are not a crime, someone's mere presence on a street is obviously not a crime, and we really need that to be emphasised from the authorities involved.
00:49:06.560You know, it really is a country where two-tier justice is, it's not just a slogan, I really detect it, I mean, I follow the case of Tommy Robinson, who's currently in prison, in solitary confinement, an 18-month sentence, he'll serve half of it, for posting a video online that a judge told him not to.
00:49:25.380That seems like quite an astonishingly punitive fine.
00:49:30.340You've talked about various pro-life cases.
00:49:34.100The government set up 24-hour-a-day courts to prosecute social media offences related to the Southport stabbings, which many of which have later been proved to be true.
00:49:47.840It seems like there's such a double standard when it comes to policing hurty words.
00:49:53.420I mean, everything I've just described here is word crimes, or thought crimes, or feelings crimes, or what's in your own mind as you pray crimes.
00:50:04.560It just, it doesn't feel like the Britain we used to learn about in school, like the mother of parliament and the source of freedom of expression.
00:50:14.320It just, it feels like things are careening off course there.
00:50:17.340Do ordinary people in the UK think about this, or is it just the activists that I've just listed?
00:50:24.000I mean, do ordinary Brits feel like their freedom's slipping away?
00:50:30.700I mean, Isabel has known this for many years, that pro-lifers get kind of a second-tier treatment when it comes to the law.
00:50:37.660But for a long time, it was only maybe Christians or pro-lifers who really experienced and knew about this kind of two-tier policing.
00:50:43.660But I think as the problem deepens, the media, the press are doing a great job.
00:50:48.440And we have this new media class coming through of podcasters and Twitter influencers and those who weren't necessarily controlled by the establishment, BBC, that kind of thing.
00:50:57.180And so as the public learns more and sees more examples of this kind of two-tier policing, it's becoming impossible to ignore.
00:51:05.240And I think that is mounting some frustrations and some pushback against these different standards that the police have for people of different views.
00:51:12.060You know, a country that is supposed to celebrate diversity, but somehow those with Christian or pro-life views are somehow treated so much worse.
00:51:19.840So I think it is coming to a sharp head now.
00:51:23.120Isabel, are there any cases proceeding against you now?
00:51:28.280Like, for example, in Birmingham two weeks ago, were you actually charged?
00:51:32.060I'm not sure if I caught how that story ended.
00:51:35.400No, but, you know, just to make it clear, the police weren't just maybe, you know, giving me a little bit of advice.
00:51:41.660I was being told categorically to move, which they had no right to do.
00:51:46.380And the frustrating thing is that, you know, all throughout these cases that have been brought against me in the past,
00:51:51.400I've had to go very public with this or at least allow it to be shared very publicly in an effort to seek justice.
00:51:58.440You know, I've had my photo all over the newspapers of me being arrested, neighbours asking me why I've been arrested,
00:52:03.920people who have no idea about, you know, my job and my work.
00:52:07.500Most people aren't prepared to have their livelihoods, their reputation, their relationships affected by something like this.
00:52:14.140And so they're resorting to being treated like second class citizens.
00:52:18.400You know, there's a rule for one and there's a rule for another.
00:52:20.980And that's not how the law should work.
00:52:23.820You know, I was quite despondent about the state of freedom of speech because I felt that big tech was slowly strangling any opinions that were outside the mainstream.
00:52:39.280Elon Musk bought Twitter and really broadened the spectrum of opinions.
00:52:43.580Really, I think he said it best when he said, we will ban what's illegal, but we really won't be stricter than the law.
00:52:50.800And I thought that made a lot of sense.
00:52:52.520Since then, Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg has said he intends to lay off 40,000 censors and lean back into free speech, including on testy issues like transgenderism.
00:53:05.740And he specifically said he's going to rely on the State Department, the U.S. government, to help him do that in overseas markets.
00:53:15.080I don't know if he was talking about the U.K. in particular.
00:53:17.620So let me ask you this, has Elon Musk's free speech approach to Twitter and perhaps what might come from Facebook, is that changing how these issues are discussed in the U.K.?
00:53:31.880Is that, I don't know, maybe there's just a lot more arrests and non-crime hate incidents or whatever being, what is the effect on the ground in the U.K.
00:53:43.460of this pendulum swinging back in America towards free speech?
00:53:50.540I think we're realizing how much support there is from others, because I think people were feeling quite isolated in this, in the past.
00:53:57.400Like Lois was saying, pro-lifers for years and years have been facing this two-tier policing situations.
00:54:04.360And now we realize we're not alone, that a lot of other people have been facing this as well, particularly Christians, whether it's street preachers and people like that.
00:54:12.660But we realize it's just going further and further out, these restrictions that are being, you know, discrimination that is happening against people.
00:54:21.680And I think, you know, the free speech that is allowed on places like Twitter and, you know, maybe more so on Facebook, as things might change there as well.
00:54:30.080I think that really helps people to recognize the unity that there is amongst people on the ground level in being unhappy with how things are in this country.
00:54:42.780And I think there's many, many people who all we're asking for is the law to be, you know, fairly applied to everybody.
00:54:50.060And that's all Christians that I know and pro-lifers that I know are asking for.
00:54:53.340We just want some fairness in the law.
00:54:55.800And I really hope that in the future we can at some point see that happening.
00:55:03.320Do you guys crowdfund your legal defense?
00:55:05.760Are there other cases you're fighting for right now?
00:55:08.980I mean, I think that the Internet isn't just a place for free speech.
00:55:12.740It's a place where a lot of little people can come together to make a – if everyone chipped in 10 pounds, you know, you can put together enough dough to hire a quality lawyer.
00:55:22.340That's really how Rebel News was built.
00:55:25.580How are you approaching this in the U.K.?
00:55:42.880But we do rely on the generosity of givers around the world to support people like Isabel who are going through situations where their speech is being oppressed.
00:55:51.500We have several other cases coming up.
00:55:53.600As I mentioned, Adam Smith-Connor, who was the Army veteran who got criminally convicted for praying in his head.
00:56:00.160And next month we'll be back in court in Bournemouth where a lady will be prosecuted for standing with a sign saying,
00:56:06.860here to help – here to talk if you want.
00:56:15.400But I think what's interesting, Ezra, you were mentioning the effect of Twitter and Elon buying X, now X.
00:56:21.600And I think these things have had an incredible cultural impact.
00:56:25.860They've really changed the way that we expect to have our right to free speech respected.
00:56:31.040But around the world we see that if governments are not on board with free speech, then there is only so much that Elon or Mark Zuckerberg can do.
00:56:39.540We have cases at ADF International across the world where people are in court for things they legally were allowed to say on Twitter or on Facebook.
00:56:47.660But it's the authorities who are censoring it, either under blasphemy laws in the Middle East and parts of Africa,
00:56:53.400or under censorship laws, hate speech laws in Europe and Mexico, and I believe Canada, yourself as well there, Ezra.
00:58:51.820You know, there's so much cooking in Rebel World.
00:58:53.840I just wanted to tell you a few things.
00:58:55.720In the United Kingdom, as you know, we have a new reporter.
00:58:59.060Her name is Sammy Woodhouse, and she's doing great.
00:59:01.720By the way, she's one of the bravest people I've ever met in my life.
00:59:04.660She was one of the 1,400 victims in the Rotherham rape gang crisis, and she was the whistleblower there.
00:59:10.620She's the one who stood up and said enough and told the media about it, and she continues to be a hero for so many British women to this day.
01:01:13.920Yeah, whoo, one cheer for the Conservative Party, only in that the Liberals and the NDP are actually worse.
01:01:21.120So we'll be live streaming that debate for any Ontarians and others who care.
01:01:25.380That'll be tomorrow at 12.45 p.m. Eastern time.
01:01:29.320But, of course, the big challenge in Canada right now these days is how the Liberal Party has decided to put the country's affairs on hold while they hand-select our new prime minister.
01:01:41.440It's really outrageous. We'll continue to cover that story.
01:01:45.300Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, see you at home.