Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trump cracks down on flag-burners with new executive order

00:00:00.140 Hello, my friends. Very interesting. Donald Trump has a new executive order banning desecration of the American flag, but it only applies in certain limited circumstances, including to foreigners in America, which I think is the whole point. I will take you through that executive order. Very interesting stuff. 0.92

00:00:21.380 And then an interview with Chris Dacey on the clashing rallies in the streets of Ottawa, the Gay Pride Rally and the Palestinian Rally. Which one do you think won? That's ahead. But first, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus. That's the video version of this podcast. Just go to rebelnewsplus.com, click subscribe. It's eight bucks a month. I want to show you what happened on the streets of Ottawa. And for that, you need to see the video. So please sign up at rebelnewsplus.com.

00:00:48.860 Tonight, what flag do you wave? What flag would you never wave? What flag would you burn? Are you even allowed to burn it? It's August 25th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:03.180 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:06.420 You know, Donald Trump is still issuing executive orders at a furious pace. I started putting together this monologue in the early afternoon, and he had already signed four executive orders just today.

00:01:27.280 And he was also meeting with the new president of South Korea. I mean, he's doing a lot of important things. It's not surprising to me that Mark Carney in Canada are lower on his list. He's so busy. He's doing it all at once.

00:01:42.080 I don't think I've mentioned the fact that he has used his federal powers to take over policing in Washington, D.C., to supplement them with the National Guard and actually stop the crime in that city.

00:01:54.480 I don't mean to understate things, but it didn't even look that hard for him to do. It's just that no one had actually tried it in 50 years.

00:02:03.680 Look, D.C. is a miracle what's happened. I mean, they can come up with fake numbers like the mayor's doing. Oh, no, it was going down for 20 years. You didn't live here. You know, have you been mugged? OK, D.C. was a hellhole and now it's safe.

00:02:19.040 And in fact, I put out this morning, I said, I hate to say this because it doesn't sound very good, but there have been no murders in D.C. in the last week.

00:02:27.400 That's the first time in anybody's memory that you haven't had a murder in a week. And I think the mayor has to get on the ball because we have a situation.

00:02:37.760 She's a nice woman, but I'll tell you what, she's got to get on the ball. We have I don't I don't want to see phony numbers.

00:02:43.740 D.C. hit an all time high last year of absolute total crime.

00:02:50.500 And it continued pretty bad. And then we put some strength, some strength into it, got the numbers down a little bit.

00:02:56.680 But we brought in the D.C. National Guard and we coupled them with the police. And it has been amazing.

00:03:04.060 I think we're at 10 days now with no murder in a row. Violent crime way down. People walking on the streets again.

00:03:10.940 People going out for dinner and restaurants again. You can't say that for everywhere in Toronto, by the way.

00:03:17.280 Just look at these two tweets from just 15 minutes separated. A couple of stabbings in two different neighborhoods.

00:03:24.860 I wonder if Donald Trump could come rescue us, too. I understand he's going to do this in Chicago next in all of these cities.

00:03:32.580 It's not that the local criminals outgun the police. They obviously don't.

00:03:37.140 It's that the police and more frequently the prosecutors and judges simply choose not to fight crime.

00:03:43.880 They don't arrest certain offenses. They don't impose bail. They don't impose strong sentences.

00:03:50.260 They let crime become normalized. If that happens for years and even decades, it can feel hopeless.

00:03:56.740 And that's just the state of things, the way things always are.

00:04:00.180 Trump has proved in Washington that really all you have to do is decide you don't want to live that way.

00:04:06.240 In 10 days, he's revolutionized the city. It's great for Americans in those big cities.

00:04:10.480 The one side effect I don't like, but it's a small price to pay to make America safe again,

00:04:15.960 is that all of these Democrat mayors and Democrat governors are having their crime problems fixed by a Republican president.

00:04:23.660 And so life is going to improve in those blue states, and people will perhaps ascribe their improved life to the Democrats.

00:04:33.380 They voted into office for mayor or governor, as opposed to the guy who's fixing the problem, Donald Trump.

00:04:39.240 There's a U.S. liberal named Ezra Klein, not to be confused with Ezra Levant.

00:04:44.020 Klein points out that all of the places run by Democrats are awful places to live when measured by crime,

00:04:51.860 drug use, homeless encampments, taxes, etc.

00:04:54.780 And that at the end of the day, that's a reason people don't want to vote Democrat, because they see what life is like.

00:04:59.900 I mean, you can have all the campaign slogans and ads you like, but really, would you rather live in a city run by Republicans or Democrats?

00:05:07.520 Where do you think crime is going to be better? Where do you think taxes are going to be better?

00:05:10.520 San Francisco and L.A. and Portland have lovely bones, those cities.

00:05:15.380 They're beautiful nature. New York is still an amazing city, too.

00:05:18.940 But everything is so much worse than it could be or should be because of their politics.

00:05:23.980 I mean, Detroit was once one of the leading cities in America.

00:05:27.580 Only politics undone. Donald Trump, paradoxically, is going to fix that for Democrat politicians, even though they'll likely make a fuss about it.

00:05:37.420 He's actually fixing their problems.

00:05:39.900 Anyway, forgive me for that very long detour. I just really want to talk with you today about flags.

00:05:44.540 But I couldn't help mention that Trump was tackling big city crime, even though he's president.

00:05:50.540 In some ways, this will likely make more of a difference to more people than most of what goes on in politics.

00:05:57.480 I don't care what you think of Trump personally.

00:06:00.400 He's going to go down in history as one of the greats.

00:06:02.500 But back to the flag executive order, which was one of the four that Trump announced today.

00:06:08.600 It criminalizes the burning and, well, really the desecration of American flags in certain circumstances, which surprised me because Trump is a free speech enthusiast.

00:06:19.460 And banning the desecration of flags is a kind of expression, sorry, the desecration of flags is a kind of expression in many cases.

00:06:28.680 But let me read it to you because it's actually, the headline goes a lot further than the substance, but it's quite clever.

00:06:35.000 I'm not going to read the whole thing.

00:06:36.440 You can find it pretty quickly on the White House website.

00:06:38.760 Our great American flag is the most sacred and cherished symbol of the United States of America and of American freedom, identity, and strength.

00:06:47.980 Over nearly two and a half centuries, many thousands of American patriots have fought, bled, and died to keep the stars and stripes waving proudly.

00:06:55.340 And he goes on at some length about how important and beautiful the flag is, and it's very poetic.

00:07:00.220 But then he remembers, well, this is one of the things that makes America so great is freedom.

00:07:04.540 So he says, notwithstanding the Supreme Court's rulings on First Amendment protections, the court has never held that American flag desecration conducted in a manner that is likely to incite imminent lawless action, or that is an action amounting to fighting words, is constitutionally protected.

00:07:25.580 Very interesting.

00:07:26.580 Very interesting.

00:07:27.280 So the U.S. Supreme Court has gone very far in protecting the desecration of flags when it's to send a message.

00:07:35.700 But Trump here is saying, well, what if it is to spark violence, which is a very narrow exception to free speech, isn't it?

00:07:43.900 It's going to have very limited application.

00:07:46.040 Let me continue reading.

00:07:46.860 The Attorney General shall prioritize the enforcement to the fullest extent possible of our nation's criminal and civil laws against acts of American flag desecration that violate applicable content-neutral laws while causing harm unrelated to expression consistent with the First Amendment.

00:08:05.540 This may include, but is not limited to, violent crimes, hate crimes, illegal discrimination against American citizens, or other violations of American civil rights, and crimes against property and the peace, as well as conspiracies and attempts to violate, and aiding and abetting laws to violate, others to violate such laws.

00:08:27.800 So it really is focused on where the flag, it's not the content of the flag and the desecration of the flag, that's the point, but it's other things like discrimination and violence.

00:08:40.480 So it's exceedingly narrow, the application here, because otherwise this would be struck down by the Supreme Court, by both Democrat and Republican judges.

00:08:50.520 I'm not going to read, it's a very lengthy and very interesting executive order.

00:08:54.000 They hand off some of the prosecutions to local authorities.

00:08:56.860 They say that the feds, the Department of Justice, may have some test cases to, quote, clarify the scope of the First Amendment exceptions in this area.

00:09:06.520 So basically the first chunk of this executive order is saying we love the flag, we super love it, we love it more than anyone else.

00:09:15.660 We're going to ban desecrating the flags where it's constitutionally permissible, which is probably going to be, and this would be so rare, I think,

00:09:24.820 where desecrating the flag was done in concert with a violent act or with discrimination against Americans.

00:09:31.720 I don't know if that would even happen once a year in the United States.

00:09:35.480 I don't know.

00:09:35.780 I don't follow flag burnings.

00:09:37.580 But really this executive order, the first chunk of it admits the First Amendment protects any substantive content, any expressive content.

00:09:47.260 But look at this.

00:09:49.880 Look at this part.

00:09:51.880 This next part is what this executive order is really about, in my opinion.

00:09:58.220 Let me quote it verbatim.

00:09:59.460 Oh, boy, this is good.

00:10:00.820 The Secretary of State, the Attorney General, and the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting within their respective authorities, shall deny, prohibit, terminate, or revoke visas, residence permits, naturalization proceedings, and other immigration benefits,

00:10:17.720 or seek removal from the United States pursuant to federal law, whenever there has been an appropriate determination that foreign nationals have engaged in American flag desecration activity under circumstances that permit the exercise of such remedies pursuant to federal law.

00:10:36.560 Now, this is not about Americans having their free speech stripped from them.

00:10:41.660 Really, this executive order repeats the First Amendment's protection several times.

00:10:46.520 This is about foreigners burning the U.S. flag.

00:10:51.120 This is about sending them home.

00:10:55.400 And really, who could disagree with that?

00:10:58.260 The left?

00:10:59.420 Really?

00:10:59.860 The left are the people who prosecute you if you scuff your feet on a pride-colored rainbow flag sidewalk, if you don't bow down to the trans flag. 0.76

00:11:11.760 You're prosecuted for that all over America.

00:11:16.000 I guess we're in the flag wars now.

00:11:18.840 You know, one of the most incredible deployments of a flag was not the American flag, but a Mexican flag.

00:11:26.180 When Donald Trump announced he was going to go ahead with the mass deportation of illegals, there were actual street riots in Los Angeles.

00:11:35.220 And the flag of choice by these people in America was not the American flag, but Mexican flags at anti-deportation riots, which sort of proves the point.

00:11:45.740 You're flying a Mexican flag in America because you don't want to go home to Mexico, but your flag of choice is a Mexican flag.

00:11:53.600 Now, Soros activists quickly saw how that was backfiring in terms of PR, and they tried to get anti-ice, that's the immigration police, anti-ice protesters to wave U.S. flags to sort of make Americans think that they love America.

00:12:10.460 It didn't really work.

00:12:11.580 You cannot get a leftist who hates America to fly an American flag, even as a PSYOP.

00:12:16.940 Now, I see flags all the time in Canada, and also when I travel to the U.K. and to Ireland.

00:12:23.840 Canadian flags are flown.

00:12:26.620 But by whom?

00:12:28.360 By citizens, by conservatives, by Christians, by freedom fighters, by the truckers.

00:12:35.220 In fact, the flag was sort of adopted by the truckers.

00:12:39.000 I had never seen so many flags and so much anthem singing in my life.

00:12:42.620 That's when I visited the trucker convoy in Ottawa.

00:12:46.240 But I also see a lot of protests without Canadian flags.

00:12:49.700 I see pro-Hamas protests every week in my neighborhood, and they're only carrying Palestinian flags, Hamas flags, Taliban flags.

00:13:00.200 Sometimes they have trans flags flown by anarchists and by thugs.

00:13:05.180 I've really never seen them fly the Canadian flag.

00:13:08.660 A couple years ago, I went to Oxford University just to tour the place, and I only saw a single U.K. flag.

00:13:16.180 That's the Union Jack or the Union flag.

00:13:18.540 Only one on the whole university.

00:13:21.740 But every other building did have a flag, but it was either the older Pride flag, the rainbow flag, or the new trans flag.

00:13:30.140 I must have seen a dozen of those on campus.

00:13:32.280 I felt like I was in a parallel universe.

00:13:34.520 In Ireland, I'm often with the nationalists who only fly the tricolor.

00:13:40.780 That's the three-colored Irish flag, and it's sort of glorious to see a thousand of them.

00:13:46.100 There are always counter-protesters.

00:13:48.400 They have very few, if any, of the tricolor, but they have lots of Palestinian flags, trans flags, and government labor union flags.

00:13:57.040 It is so telling.

00:13:58.020 I love the flag wars because you really sum up what you stand for in your flag.

00:14:02.340 In the U.K., the flag called the Union flag, or sometimes the Union Jack, if you look at it carefully, I don't, I mean, I'm sure Brits know this off by heart, but Canadians might not know.

00:14:13.320 It's actually flags put on top of each other.

00:14:15.940 There's the English Cross of St. George, there's the Scottish flag, and, you know, there's the four constituent countries of the U.K., England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland.

00:14:25.100 You can fly your country's flag, the Welsh flag, for example, or you can fly the Union flag, which was also the flag of the empire.

00:14:33.240 But people would often get in trouble for flying not only their national flag, especially the English flag, which is the red cross on the white background.

00:14:42.480 That's the cross of St. George.

00:14:44.500 You would get in trouble for flying an English flag.

00:14:47.200 It would be called racist.

00:14:49.040 I visited a man in the city of Sunderland in the U.K. who said police came around and told him to take down the Union flag, the Union Jack, the British flag.

00:14:58.740 It was considered hostile by foreigners.

00:15:01.540 People objected.

00:15:02.800 Police would enforce taking down the British flag.

00:15:07.300 But something amazing is going on right now.

00:15:10.000 The flag is becoming a rallying point in the U.K. by British people who are against mass illegal immigration.

00:15:20.340 And all across the U.K., sometimes as many as 20 different protests in a day, outside these hotels that have been set aside for foreign migrant men, men, women, and children are protesting.

00:15:32.380 And what is their symbol?

00:15:33.920 The British flag, the English flag, or the Union flag.

00:15:38.000 And it's incredible.

00:15:39.640 And something amazing has happened.

00:15:41.960 They're being set up all across the country.

00:15:45.260 People are in the dead of night taking up their ladders, climbing up lampposts, and affixing flags, either the Union flag, the Union Jack, or the English flag.

00:15:55.320 And I've seen a Scottish flag also all over the place.

00:15:59.680 And you know those roundabouts, sort of a circular intersection?

00:16:04.480 They're painting the center circle of that in the English colors of a red cross on a white background.

00:16:11.640 I don't know if you remember a few months ago I showed you this phenomenon in the U.K. called blade runners, where people would very quickly go down and use a steel-cutting saw to knock down spy cameras that were enforcing those 15-minute cities.

00:16:28.400 Those people called themselves blade runners.

00:16:30.280 And they would run out with a saw, and in often less than 30 seconds, they would knock down these CCTV systems, sometimes for the 10th time in the same location.

00:16:41.160 It's the same spirit of sort of sneaking around in the dark.

00:16:46.940 But instead of cutting down these spy cameras, they're putting up British and English flags, and it's breaking out everywhere, and it's sort of amazing.

00:16:57.580 And the thing is, some city councils run by leftist UK-hating politicians are vowing to take down the British and English flags.

00:17:07.700 But these are the folks who have abided, or in some cases even put up, Palestinian flags in the U.K.

00:17:15.780 I think these are very interesting days.

00:17:17.880 And I love watching these flag vigilantes in the U.K. 0.50

00:17:21.900 You know, we believe in symbols.

00:17:24.040 They sum up who we are.

00:17:25.820 I don't know if you've followed.

00:17:26.820 There's a U.S. chain called Cracker Barrel.

00:17:29.400 We don't have it in Canada, unfortunately.

00:17:31.280 It's sort of Southern-style, home country cooking, comfort food, and it's sort of an old-fashioned vibe, fireplaces, sort of almost a garage sale kind of junk store at the front.

00:17:45.480 It's very fun, very friendly.

00:17:47.940 Well, they hired a new DEI CEO, and her first move was to absolutely denude the Cracker Barrel logo, to take out the picture of the old white guy sitting near her barrel. 0.97

00:18:00.800 It's called Cracker Barrel.

00:18:02.420 And yet they took out the guy, the cracker and the barrel.

00:18:05.320 I'm kidding.

00:18:06.040 That's not what the word cracker meant, to purge any whiteness or Southerness.

00:18:12.620 And the customer base of Cracker Barrel has revolted.

00:18:16.400 Cracker Barrel has lost 15% of its stock market value just from changing their logo to deracinate it, to take away its cultural history.

00:18:25.740 Now, I actually had some Cracker Barrel a couple weeks ago when I visited the States for a day.

00:18:31.180 It's still delicious food.

00:18:32.800 So I think the company's going to survive just because the food's so good.

00:18:36.120 But I tell you, these companies that try and destroy their meaning, like Bud Light or Jaguar, it's not because people really care about Jaguars or Bud Lights.

00:18:47.280 It's because those companies have tried to embody values that we have as people.

00:18:54.780 And then when those companies decide they hate those values, isn't that another way of saying they hate the people?

00:19:00.980 If you liked Bud Light and suddenly you're under attack and you're not good enough for the brand, if you like Cracker Barrel, but suddenly Cracker Barrel doesn't like you, doesn't want you, wants you written on the picture, it's sort of humiliating.

00:19:14.800 You say, well, if they hate me, why should I give them any of my money?

00:19:19.020 It's very interesting.

00:19:19.840 These are not pocketbook issues.

00:19:21.740 They're identity issues.

00:19:23.440 Of course, people care about pocketbook issues.

00:19:25.620 Of course, taxes weigh heavily on us and we want to be able to afford things, afford housing and groceries.

00:19:32.040 But who we are counts, too.

00:19:34.840 And I think the government, especially here in Canada, has forgotten that.

00:19:39.160 That's why people love football, both U.S. style football and in the U.K. they call soccer football, because sometimes that's the only way for old stock Americans, Canadians, Brits to fly their flag.

00:19:52.720 It's why both British and U.S. football have been targeted with political correctness, along with our Canadian hockey, don't you think?

00:20:01.180 You know, these symbols matter.

00:20:03.440 These symbols matter because it's about who we are and who we think we are and what we think is important.

00:20:09.480 But actually, people take them at face value.

00:20:11.540 I don't know what you think about these land back acknowledgements that so many institutions have.

00:20:17.460 Before giving a speech, they say we are on the territory of this Indian band or that Indian band.

00:20:25.400 Does that have meaning?

00:20:27.640 Of course it does.

00:20:28.720 Symbols have meanings.

00:20:29.660 Words have meanings.

00:20:30.940 Flags have meanings.

00:20:32.200 And if you doubt me, look at the recent B.C. court ruling giving the land back.

00:20:38.160 My point is, you can only fly a flag for so long that's not your flag, that you don't believe in, before people say, well, no, you've been saluting that false flag for long enough that actually is you.

00:20:50.620 What I'm so excited about in both the United States and the U.K. are from Donald Trump down to the ordinary Brit.

00:20:57.460 They're reclaiming their flags and their meanings, and with it, their history and their culture.

00:21:02.920 Stay with us for more.

00:21:03.920 Right in front of the Prime Minister's office.

00:21:22.000 Do we have a rogue group here?

00:21:29.760 Prime Minister's office here to the right.

00:21:31.760 Prime Minister's office here to the right.

00:22:01.740 This is leading the Pride Parade here.

00:22:15.380 Prime Minister's office in the background.

00:22:24.860 Wow. I don't know if it was clear to you, but let me clarify what you were seeing there

00:22:29.780 is the Gay Pride Parade in Ottawa, which is as sacred to that city's politics as, I don't know,

00:22:37.960 I suppose the Santa Claus Parade in New York City or Columbus Day.

00:22:42.260 But there is a more powerful force than the LGBTQ2SL plus lobby these days, and it's the

00:22:50.100 Palestinian lobby. What you saw there was the blockading and the cancellation of the Pride

00:22:57.580 Parade by the Palestinian activists. The man who shot that footage and he was there to witness it

00:23:02.880 all is our guest today. His name is Chris Dacey. He is a citizen journalist in the true sense of the

00:23:08.240 word and a member of the Independent Press Gallery. Chris, great to see you. Thanks for taking some

00:23:13.000 time to tell us what happened yesterday. Good to see you again, and thanks for having me on.

00:23:18.920 So we didn't see the whole thing. I didn't want to play your whole clip, but I really recommend people

00:23:22.960 follow you on Twitter. Tell me what happened, because listen, Gay Pride Parades are sometimes

00:23:28.340 noisy and there's lots of whistles and maybe it's a kind of controlled chaos, but what we saw there

00:23:34.720 was the beginning of a blockade. Is that correct? Yeah, that's exactly right. So this was Capital

00:23:40.960 Pride, and it's an event that's done every year. It draws thousands. I've seen numbers up to 10,000

00:23:46.480 people. And they had a parade route scheduled this year that was going from Ottawa City Hall

00:23:50.740 up Elgin Street and then down Wellington in front of the Prime Minister's office, past

00:23:55.720 Parliament Hill before it headed down Bank Street into the Gay Village. And just as this parade 0.97

00:24:00.520 march was getting onto Wellington Street, basically directly in front of the PMO, there was a golf

00:24:07.920 cart, surprisingly enough. There was a grand marshal, then a Palestinian golf cart that was, I guess, 0.58

00:24:12.800 an approved contingent of this thing. But it was very quickly joined by a mass of other Palestinians.

00:24:18.120 They came up on the back and they basically ground the thing to a halt there. They made it as far as

00:24:22.400 the House of Commons, where they shut it all down. And an hour or two later, the whole thing was

00:24:25.940 canceled. So did anyone try to keep the parade moving? Did police move the blockade or did any

00:24:33.540 parade organizers even try to clear the blockade? And we'll play some background footage while we're

00:24:40.840 talking here to show, I mean, we showed the energy there as the Palestinian side was sort of mustering,

00:24:47.740 but I want to show that it actually blocked it. Did anyone try and clear it so the march could

00:24:52.660 continue? As far as forcing it to clear, I don't believe so. There was ongoing negotiations, is what

00:24:59.740 the statements have been put out. So there's kind of a few conflicting statements, depending on which

00:25:03.240 party you ask. But as far as Ottawa police being involved, there was, when I was down at the

00:25:08.480 blockade in front of the House of Commons, there was maybe a handful of officers that I could see

00:25:12.700 in my total line of view. I didn't see any public order units anywhere. I didn't see any officers

00:25:18.580 mustering, like they would even try to do anything. So once this thing stopped, there's some reports

00:25:24.040 that they were going to allow them to stop it for 20 minutes, which seems like a crazy idea to invite

00:25:28.580 these people in, then tell them you're going to allow them to stop your parade. So that may or may

00:25:32.380 not be true. But there are reports of that going around. But I mean, once they got to the House of

00:25:37.940 Commons, they had control of the front of it, they had hundreds of people, and there wasn't really a

00:25:42.400 lot that could be done. But I don't think anyone tried to do anything. Now, what did the mayor have

00:25:47.420 to say? Because the mayor attended the rally. I'm sure he wanted it to be a success. Did you see the

00:25:55.960 mayor? I think the mayor downplayed what happened. I don't think he used the word blockade, did he?

00:26:02.040 Yeah, so the mayor did put out a statement. He was involved, and I believe he was involved at the

00:26:06.360 start of the parade. There's been issues, I guess, with the mayor. Last year, there was an issue,

00:26:11.560 and I think he boycotted it. Basically, the Palestinian contingent, or the transfer Palestine

00:26:16.340 contingent, has a list of demands that they're making of people. You have to agree with them all,

00:26:20.480 or they'll do this sort of thing and shut you down. And I think that there was some demands that

00:26:24.500 they were making that some people involved with Pride, Ottawa and the mayor, and some of the groups

00:26:29.040 were not willing to make, particularly Jewish groups involved, I would like to say as well.

00:26:32.920 So the mayor did start the parade, as far as I know, but he didn't go through. He didn't finish

00:26:38.100 it. He certainly wasn't there when this happened, which was very early on in the parade. And as far

00:26:43.080 as statements, I think his statement that he's given is quite lacking so far. Right now that I

00:26:47.520 remember it, I think he didn't attend because they had some views that I think the mayor considered

00:26:52.500 to be anti-Semitic or something. I don't want to misstate what the mayor said, but it was he who

00:26:58.100 chose to boycott the parade last time. Now, there was a tweet this morning from the Globe and Mail,

00:27:03.720 and I just want to read it to you because I tell you, this choice of language is quite something.

00:27:08.840 Here it is. It's from the Globe and Mail. It says, Ottawa Pride Parade canceled after coinciding

00:27:17.780 with pro-Palestine rally. That makes it sound like, oh, wouldn't you know it? We've got two rallies,

00:27:23.300 and without explaining anything, the Pride Parade was canceled. So it was such a coincidence. They

00:27:31.760 kept coinciding. I don't know. That's a very creative tweet. I think it hides the truth of

00:27:37.980 what happened. They didn't coincide. It was a blockade. It was a deliberate, targeted blockade.

00:27:44.000 They hijacked the Pride Parade to get all its buzz and attention and blocked it. I don't know why the

00:27:50.440 Globe would use such an opposite word. I mean, why don't they want the world to know what happened?

00:27:59.620 Well, they're lying by omission, and it's so, so obvious. I mean, you can't completely hide these

00:28:04.820 things to coincide. We know that's not what happened. And thank goodness for community notes

00:28:09.600 where, you know, I'm a citizen journalist, and I was able to put out what really happened.

00:28:14.360 And some of that coverage is hitting millions of news at this point. It's gone absolutely viral.

00:28:18.120 And then the people online saw it. You know, they know what happened. They were able to add the

00:28:22.660 community note. So right there under the Globe, you get the community note now saying what really

00:28:26.520 happened. So it's a good thing we have that mechanism, at least, to correct the misinformation

00:28:30.680 from the state-funded media. Yeah, I love community notes. I mean, in the past, you could only just shake

00:28:36.200 your fist at these big regime media. But now ordinary people can talk back. And whoever the community

00:28:43.740 note is under can't get rid of it. Like, you can't just delete it. It's there. I suppose you could

00:28:49.000 delete your first tweet. What's so interesting to me, and Chris, I bump into you from time to time

00:28:54.360 outside the Ottawa courthouse, because I've been there maybe 10 times to cover the Tamara Leach hearings,

00:29:00.280 because that's obviously where all the trucker trials are taking place. And the story of the trucker

00:29:05.760 convoy is police clearing blockades on Wellington, which is the street right outside Parliament.

00:29:13.680 And I don't know, there's so many cases of protests in Toronto and Ottawa and other cities that don't

00:29:21.160 have permits, clearly block roads. Montreal's crazy these days. And I keep thinking that if they

00:29:26.600 weren't wearing kefias and flying Palestine flags, if they were wearing trucker hats and saying honk,

00:29:33.000 honk. Like, that's really the only, I can't think of any reason why the truckers were arrested and

00:29:39.180 called illegal and called an insurrection. But Palestinians flying foreign flags and sometimes

00:29:45.360 saying things that are quite violent in the language. Like, it's such a double standard to me.

00:29:51.700 It's like every police force in the country has been told, check the politics of who's protesting

00:29:56.980 before deciding how to respond. Yeah, this is very much the case. And, you know, I've been trying to

00:30:02.440 highlight the kind of two-tier standard I keep approaching it as. But now, this weekend,

00:30:07.000 it's really shown that it's more than two-tier, it's multi-tier. So the top tier, I guess,

00:30:11.040 is Palestinian or Islamists. Then you have the LGBTQ crowd. They're normally allowed to go out and do

00:30:16.100 whatever they want as well. But in this case, you know, you saw where it slots in. And then you can

00:30:20.400 start, you know, inserting different special interest groups there. And then, you know, you get into

00:30:24.620 right, you know, white people meeting at the bottom, basically. But a Christian male, a Jewish person,

00:30:30.480 you know, you can put in all these different groups, right? And they all seem to slot in.

00:30:35.620 It's really interesting to watch the approach and to see it unfold in real time, where you can

00:30:40.880 clearly see that this group has been given ultimate leeway to do whatever they want.

00:30:45.760 I was actually down by the PMO earlier today and filming a little video. And I was just thinking to

00:30:50.700 myself about Tamara and Chris. You know, Tamara's been convicted of, I believe, it's one count of

00:30:55.360 mischief. And in this blockade, yesterday, or yesterday, there was at least three different

00:31:02.120 people who identified themselves as leaders. There was the Asian gentleman we saw on the

00:31:07.060 megaphone in the video you played. You might recognize him. He was involved in the

00:31:11.240 flotillas for Gaza, with Greta Thunberg. So he kind of reached the internet, came a little bit that

00:31:16.460 way. There was also a person speaking directly in front of the House of Commons, putting themselves

00:31:20.680 out as a leader when it was shut down completely, who it turns out is a member of the public service

00:31:25.420 and works for Librarian Archives, Kenya. And then there was another woman who came out and 0.91

00:31:30.340 he was negotiating this blockade on behalf of them. So I mean, there's three identifiable people

00:31:34.960 who shut down the street, who caused a giant blockade that stopped a permitted march with

00:31:41.320 thousands of people. I think that would be impeding their ability to enjoy the public. I mean,

00:31:45.700 you're a lawyer, I think, not me, but it seems to me that many of these things would qualify

00:31:49.700 as mischief. We don't see the same approach. We don't see arrests. We don't see anyone calling

00:31:54.260 for arrests. So I mean, the multi-tiered approach is just completely in your face here.

00:31:59.860 Yeah. You know, in just the last couple of weeks, there's an American pastor who's sort of very

00:32:05.220 charismatic and sings and has outdoor prayer meetings. And it's very American, the style,

00:32:13.440 like the confident, charismatic Christianity. And it's very popular. And he's completely 0.64

00:32:19.220 harmless. His name is Chris Feucht, if I'm saying his last name right. And he has been banned from

00:32:25.020 city after city, from public parks, not even public streets, like literally a booking in a park.

00:32:32.000 He follows the rules, fills out the forms. And he's been driven out of the public square

00:32:36.620 and fined. In fact, we're crowdfunding his legal defense in Montreal. He was in a church.

00:32:44.200 The church was fined $2,500 just for letting him play there. And I just, my worry here, Chris,

00:32:52.400 is that this erodes trust in police. I grew up looking up to police thinking, hey, they're the

00:32:58.900 good guys. If I'm in trouble, they can help. They're sort of above the fray. But I have to say,

00:33:03.840 these days, when I look at police, half the time, I wonder, well, are they on some political mission

00:33:07.680 or not? And I really think it brings the administration of justice into disrepute.

00:33:12.700 I don't know. I mean, like you say, it's like they check, it's like a paint swatch. They check

00:33:19.440 your race, check your religion before they apply the law. And I don't know if policing can survive

00:33:25.400 that. Policing needs the consent of the people. And I mean, just like in the past, I suppose,

00:33:31.960 visual minorities didn't trust the police. Now, I think conservatives and maybe Christians,

00:33:37.620 they have cause to doubt if the police are going to be fair. I know that's a terrible thing to say,

00:33:42.060 but what else can you say when you witness this same thing a hundred times over?

00:33:45.880 And I can't really blame the people that think like that. I did go see Sean Foyce when he came

00:33:51.780 to Ottawa. I had to tickle him a threat to public safety. Christian worshipers are a threat to public 1.00

00:33:55.860 safety. I had to travel 40 minutes out of town into a farmer's field to go worship and watch worship. 0.95

00:34:01.500 But, you know, and he's certainly not a threat to public safety. But, you know, this is just the

00:34:07.060 way things are. I'm similar to yourself where I grew up with a healthy respect and for law

00:34:12.020 enforcement. I have friends in law enforcement. It's military. I still do know people in law

00:34:16.120 enforcement. And after the convoy, it really shattered that, seeing that. And my experience

00:34:21.120 since has really shattered that. And I really try hard to repersonalize and rehumanize different 0.80

00:34:26.620 police. I've worked really hard and I think a good day to get to know some of these people and figure out

00:34:31.160 how to work with them. But it's really disheartening to me to see what goes on here.

00:34:35.720 And I, it's different with different officers, but I can see officers that it looks like their

00:34:39.900 hands are tied and it looks like they're really uncomfortable with what's going on. You can almost

00:34:43.260 see people incurring like moral injuries for lack of a better term. They're just, they're not doing

00:34:47.820 well.

00:34:49.300 You know, I mean, obviously the police would have the power to sort things out there in a heartbeat if

00:34:55.180 they wanted to. And I'm not talking about billy club swing. I mean, everyone there was a pretty

00:34:59.820 soft touch, I think, but there was just zero political will to do so. It's very incredible.

00:35:05.360 But listen, I'm really glad you're there on the street. And I, and I saw, uh, I think you indicated

00:35:09.880 in an ex post this morning that you had over a million views on, on your vids and your tweets.

00:35:15.540 And I think that's, what's going to save the day in the end. We don't all have to read the

00:35:20.220 globe and mail story about the coinciding protests. If, as long as there's citizen journalists with a

00:35:26.580 cell phone camera, we'll always be able to get to the truth. If those citizen journalists are allowed

00:35:32.020 to operate. And so there is a, I suppose, silver lining here in that we're replacing the traditional

00:35:38.920 sources of info with disaggregated independence. And that's, I think where the trust in media will

00:35:45.180 be rebuilt. So thanks to you for being out there on those mean streets of Ottawa.

00:35:50.220 Thanks. There is Chris Dacey. You can follow him at, on Dacey media. And his X account is simply

00:35:58.020 Chris Dacey, D-A-C-E-Y. Stay with us. More ahead.

00:36:12.260 Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me. The first one by Natasha Janser is,

00:36:17.760 I can't listen to Mark Carney anymore, except he is announcing his resignation. Yeah. He's really

00:36:24.740 has an irritating tone and he says so little. He always says, let me be clear. And then he's not

00:36:30.980 clear. And like, have you ever, other than his phrase elbows up, which was clearly misleading.

00:36:37.320 Is there any speech he's given that you remembered? Any meaning he's imparted that has stayed with you?

00:36:43.540 I mean, I don't think he's an empty suit like Trudeau was. Trudeau was, was an actor. He would say

00:36:49.700 whatever lines were put in front of him. I don't think Mark Carney is that way. I don't think he is

00:36:54.120 someone else's vehicle. I just don't know what it is he stands for. I have no idea. And I'm not sure

00:36:59.960 if half his own caucus do either. Next letter from William McDowell says, Ezra, please don't show that

00:37:06.240 elbow chicken dance again. It's embarrassing for Canadians. Oh my God. You know what? I think it 0.58

00:37:12.600 was embarrassing. I think it was embarrassing when it happened. I think it's even more embarrassing now,

00:37:16.240 but there are people who still, you know, there was some brewery that had elbows up beer. I seen

00:37:23.960 some elbows up merch here and there. When I travel around the country in Ontario, mainly,

00:37:29.780 there are people who think he's doing great and would say he's doing great no matter what he did

00:37:36.900 simply not to have, uh, Pierre Polly of his prime minister. And, and frankly, anyone who says bad

00:37:43.220 things about Donald Trump right there, you're going to have 30% of the Canadian vote locked up

00:37:48.100 just by bad mouthing Trump. I think that's how he won. Last letter from Bernie Moore, who says,

00:37:53.940 not that there is any sanity in Europe, but to ignore Carney shows how low he is and Ford have

00:37:59.560 lowered Canada. Yeah. I mean, I, I was honestly surprised when Mark Carney was not allowed or was

00:38:08.660 not invited to go to that, I was calling it Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. I mean, you had Donald

00:38:13.720 Trump and Zelensky and then seven little European politicians, Macron and Starmer and MERS from Germany 0.99

00:38:20.360 and Maloney from Italy. And then the Finnish guy. I mean, if you're having a guy from Finland,

00:38:25.640 population 5 million, and you're not inviting the Canadian guy, population 42 million, that's given 0.89

00:38:31.640 $20 billion to Afghanistan. I was honestly shocked that Canada was not there. And I don't know if it's

00:38:38.440 Zelensky who said no, the Europeans, or if Trump said, no, I'm not giving that guy any of my time. He's,

00:38:44.100 he's interfering with me on Gaza. He's interfering with me on trade. Why would I give him the honor

00:38:51.300 of being there in the White House? I don't know. But that to me was more revealing than anything

00:38:57.640 about Canada-US relations. I don't know what's going on with their behind the scenes negotiation.

00:39:02.420 How would I know? But the fact that Trump or whoever it was blocked Carney from being at that

00:39:08.820 meeting tells me a lot about those two men's relationships. Well, that's our show for today.

00:39:14.840 Until next time tomorrow, on behalf of all of us at Rebel World Headquarters, see you at home.

00:39:19.060 Good night. And keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - August 26, 2025

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trump cracks down on flag-burners with new executive order

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