EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trump is winning 'bigly' with the American people
Episode Stats
Summary
With just one week to go until the U.S. election, we talk to Joel Pollack, senior editor-at-large at Breitbart, about the latest Democratic campaign ads in support of Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA). We also hear from our friend Avi Amini, who is crisscrossing the country in his RV, talking to Trump supporters.
Transcript
00:00:00.000
Hello, my friends. It's one week until the U.S. presidential election. I'm very excited about it,
00:00:04.620
and I'm nervous because, boy, it's on a knife's edge. I don't want to get my hopes too high. I'm
00:00:09.240
going to have a feature conversation today with our friend Joel Pollack, senior editor-at-large
00:00:13.900
at Breitbart.com. We're going to review some of the new TV ads, especially some crazy ones
00:00:19.520
in support of Kamala Harris. These are just unbelievable. You got to see them with your
00:00:24.640
eyes to believe them. They're real, by the way. I thought they were Saturday Night Live skits.
00:00:28.160
But to see them, you need the video version of this podcast. Go to rebelnewsplus.com,
00:00:35.280
rebelnewsplus. That's what we call our video version of the podcast. Go there and click
00:00:40.320
subscribe. It's eight bucks a month, and I know that might not sound like a lot of money to you,
00:00:44.200
but, boy, it's a lot for us when it adds up. So please go to rebelnewsplus.com, click subscribe.
00:00:48.960
Not only do you get the great content that we show you, not just tell you, but you support Rebel News
00:00:53.940
because we don't get any money from the government, and it shows. All right, here's today's podcast.
00:00:58.160
Tonight, one week to go till the U.S. election. We'll talk to Joel Pollack,
00:01:18.100
and we'll review a bunch of Kamala Harris's TV ads. It's October 29th, and this is The Ads for
00:01:40.840
Well, our friend Avi Amini continues to crisscross the United States in an RV, and I have to say,
00:01:46.880
I visited him in two cities. I met him in San Francisco and again in Vegas, and I sort of wish
00:01:52.740
I could run away and spend a month going town to town in America talking to severely normal people
00:01:57.780
about the election. What I love about doing streeters is that if you go someplace in your
00:02:02.960
private life as a tourist, nothing compels you to talk to 30 people. It would be really weird if you
00:02:08.600
did. They'd think you were sort of nuts. But if you've got a microphone, you're allowed to,
00:02:12.680
and people want to talk to you. And I think Avi's having the time of his life. And by the way,
00:02:16.800
he's doing some great journalism. Here he is outside Madison Square Gardens in New York City
00:02:24.560
at the historic Trump rally there. What is he doing going for a rally in the bluest city,
00:02:33.120
I guess, on the East Coast? Take a look at Avi having some fun with Republicans,
00:02:38.340
Trump-trumper-trumperters in New York. Take a look.
00:02:46.860
Mr. Donald Trump is keep doing what you're doing. You're doing something right. That's why the
00:02:50.580
establishment attacking you. The CIA, Markenberry Media is attacking Donald Trump and we the people.
00:02:57.660
I'm a bit confused because I was told that a Trump crowd would be full of white supremacists,
00:03:04.220
Yeah, it's exactly the opposite. That's why you can't listen to the mainstream news.
00:03:06.980
You've got to listen to people like you. Rebel news.
00:03:08.700
The Democrats said Trump is a Nazi. What are you guys doing in line waiting to see it?
00:03:14.340
So the fact that Trump's, that they're saying that shows the ignorance on what they think.
00:03:20.720
It is complete disgrace. They have no right to say that. Trump did nothing wrong.
00:03:25.580
He's a good guy. He supports the Jewish community. He supports Israel. Not like the other side,
00:03:31.080
all talk, talk, but they not, they do not do the walk. It's about time.
00:03:35.180
We've got law, order, peace, stability in this country, and we bring the world to a safer place.
00:03:42.560
You know, we live in the opposite world. Everything that she says is basically that you could guarantee
00:03:46.680
it's going to be the opposite of what's actually going on. So if she's saying Trump is a Nazi,
00:03:51.000
If he was a racist, he would have never signed the First Step Act. He would have never signed
00:04:00.420
Absolutely packed to the rafters. I think one of the reasons why Avi was emphasizing some of the
00:04:05.220
Jews he saw in line is because the whole media accused Trump of having a fascist echo because
00:04:12.020
some 80 or 90 years ago, someone else had a rally in Madison Square Gardens. I think it was Charles
00:04:17.120
Lindbergh for an American first sort of pro-Nazi meeting. Joining us to talk about that and all other
00:04:22.880
things related to the presidential election is our friend Joel Pollack, senior editor-at-large
00:04:27.600
at Breitbart.com. Hey, Joel, I've got a question for you. Is the Democrat last homestretch tactic
00:04:35.600
of accusing Trump of being a Nazi, they wouldn't do it if they didn't think it was going to work.
00:04:45.060
That's a great question, and the answer is we don't know because we don't know what the vote
00:04:50.300
result is going to be. We won't know until Tuesday at the earliest. We may not know for several more
00:04:55.220
weeks because many of these states that use vote by mail are going to take a long time to count the
00:04:59.920
ballots. There are going to be challenges and so forth, but I do think it works for Democrats, and
00:05:05.880
that's because the charge that your opponent is Hitler and that his supporters are Nazis is so
00:05:12.580
inflammatory that the only reason you bring that charge out is you're losing, number one, but number
00:05:20.380
two, you're prepared to risk everything to fight to win. And so the way Democrats are interpreting this
00:05:27.980
line of attack is not that they actually believe that Trump is Hitler and that his supporters are
00:05:34.080
Nazis, although some of them are doing a very, very good job of convincing themselves that it is so,
00:05:38.820
but the main reason they like it is that it shows that their candidate and their party are fighting
00:05:43.780
hard. They're even willing to give up on governing after they win, as long as they win, because you
00:05:50.560
can't really govern a country once you've called half of the country Nazis. You can't work with people
00:05:56.160
across the aisle. The only thing that this tactic can possibly do is frighten voters into voting for
00:06:03.240
you, and Democrats like to see that. They like to see that their party is willing to risk everything,
00:06:08.420
even the fate of the country, the fate of their future potential government to win. But it doesn't
00:06:14.180
help them with independence. It doesn't help them with undecided voters, and it doesn't help them with
00:06:18.700
voters in swing states. It is a purely base turnout kind of a tactic. Will it be enough? I don't know.
00:06:25.380
Nobody really knows. I do think you can pick up, not just because of media hype, but you can pick up
00:06:31.100
a sense of enthusiasm that has returned to the Democratic base once they started going after Trump,
00:06:36.680
because they say he is Hitler and his supporters are Nazis. This is the core of the argument against
00:06:43.660
Trump. It's not a policy argument. It's basically an argument that this guy is disruptive, and
00:06:49.160
disruption equals fear, and anything can happen if you let this guy back in. And that's the pitch
00:06:56.200
in the last week. It's not the pitch of a winning campaign. It's the pitch of a losing campaign.
00:07:01.800
But just like the Washington commanders throwing a Hail Mary at the end of the last football game
00:07:08.120
against my Chicago Bears, sometimes those Hail Mary passes do work, and they could win based on
00:07:14.020
this tactic. I think that most Democrat operatives do not believe it, but some people do. I mean,
00:07:21.640
if all you do is read columnists and commentators and pundits telling you he is like a Nazi,
00:07:27.640
he is a rapist, he is a convicted felon, or whatever you want to say, I think some people
00:07:33.320
will internalize that. I saw a fascinating exchange between Mark Halperin and Tucker Carlson,
00:07:38.680
where Halperin said, if Trump wins, it will create a genuine mental health crisis for a certain number
00:07:46.760
of Americans, millions, maybe tens of millions. You know, we laugh at those sort of memes of young,
00:07:53.160
college, woke kids screaming when Trump was elected. But it's not just woke college kids.
00:08:00.200
There are people... Here's a clip of Halperin. He's predicting divorces. He's predicting mass
00:08:06.920
depression. Because what does it mean for you and your country if you actually live in a country that
00:08:11.960
votes for a Nazi? Here's a quick clip of Mark Halperin. I find him very convincing. Take a look.
00:08:17.160
Let's say Trump wins three weeks from today. What happens? The Democratic Party is, I mean,
00:08:26.600
as you said, a lot of Democrats, maybe the majority believe that Trump becoming president again is the
00:08:34.200
worst thing that ever could happen. So how do they respond to that?
00:08:36.200
I say this not flippantly. I think it will be the cause of the greatest mental health crisis in the
00:08:41.800
history of the country. I don't... I think tens of millions of people will question their connection
00:08:47.960
to the nation, their connection to other human beings, their connection to their vision of what
00:08:55.080
their future for them and their children could be like. And I think that will be... require an enormous
00:09:01.320
amount of access to mental health professionals. I think it'll lead to trauma in the workplace. I
00:09:09.800
think there'll be some degree of... Are you being serious?
00:09:12.920
A hundred percent serious. A hundred percent serious. I think there'll be alcoholism. There'll be broken
00:09:20.120
Yeah. I think there are some people who genuinely think that Trump is a reincarnation of Hitler,
00:09:25.480
even though he didn't do any Hitler-like things in his first term. In fact, he was friends with the
00:09:30.280
Jews. I think you're right, though. It revs up those people. It'll help stimulate turnout. But
00:09:35.960
what's interesting is he's... Trump, I think, is a great friend of the Jews. He visited a very religious
00:09:44.200
Jewish sort of monument in the New York area recently. But Trump has also had some luck with
00:09:52.280
Muslims and Arabs, too, at the same time. Here is Donald Trump at a rally in Michigan where Arab-American
00:10:00.600
leaders were saying, vote for Trump, not Kamala Harris. Take a look at this. Joel, I'd like your help
00:10:04.440
to understand this. Take a look. Good afternoon, Michiganders. As the president said, we just had a
00:10:14.120
positive meeting with President Trump. We, as Muslims, stand with President Trump because he promises peace.
00:10:22.840
He promises peace, not war. We are supporting Donald Trump because he promised to end war in the Middle East and Ukraine.
00:10:43.080
The bloodshed has to stop all over the world. And I think this man can make that happen.
00:10:50.680
I personally believe that God saved his life twice for a reason.
00:11:05.240
How can it be that Jews really like Trump? I mean, some of them are quite effusive,
00:11:10.840
and yet Arab-Americans are saying, vote for Trump. I mean, the guy there said, if you want peace,
00:11:16.680
and I think that's pretty much a good answer. But the Democrats are so much more Islamist than Trump.
00:11:23.320
What do you make of that rally where they said, vote for Trump?
00:11:27.400
There are several things going on here. First of all, many Muslim-American voters and Arab-American
00:11:33.400
voters are actually conservatives. And I learned this firsthand in 2019 on the campaign trail when I
00:11:40.120
went to a mosque and saw a town hall meeting with one of the Democratic presidential candidates.
00:11:45.800
And the first question was a question about terrorism and terrorism watch lists. And it reflected
00:11:53.480
the priorities of a community that is still intertwined with some elements of radical Islam.
00:11:58.600
That was certainly a different and unique kind of issue to come up in a town hall. But the rest of the
00:12:04.840
the questions were all questions about why taxes are too high, why the government is wasting our money,
00:12:10.840
questions about small business regulation. Arab-American and Muslim-American voters are
00:12:15.640
conservatives, not just fiscally, but also socially. There are many towns in Michigan where there are a
00:12:21.640
lot of Muslim and Arab-American communities that are upset at the transgender mandates coming down
00:12:27.640
from the Biden administration. They don't want biological males in girls' bathrooms or on girls'
00:12:34.520
team sports. So the Muslim and Arab-American communities are finding a lot of common ground
00:12:40.600
with the Republican message on issues other than the Middle East. Now, on the Middle East,
00:12:45.080
there's something interesting happening. It is still true that I would say the majority of Arab and
00:12:51.640
Muslim-American voters who care about the Middle East are either going to vote for Democrats or are not
00:12:56.360
going to vote at all or are going to vote for third-party candidates. But there are some who
00:13:00.600
are saying two things. Number one, it doesn't do any good to vote for third-party candidates or no
00:13:06.040
party at all. If you really want to hurt Kamala Harris and Joe Biden for their support of Israel,
00:13:11.320
you have to vote for the other side. These elections may have other choices, but essentially they are
00:13:15.800
binary choices. And if you really want to punish the Democrats for supporting Israel as they see it,
00:13:21.080
of course, from my perspective, Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have not been supportive enough. But
00:13:25.080
from their perspective, they want to punish the Biden-Harris administration. And the best way to
00:13:29.320
do it is to cost them votes, not just to withhold votes. Now, there's something else that's also very
00:13:35.400
interesting that's going on. The Muslim-American leadership of the United States is starting to
00:13:40.760
become very politically sophisticated in a way that, regrettably, my own Jewish community is not.
00:13:46.520
And that is, they understand that Donald Trump is a transactional politician. And so if you do something
00:13:52.440
for him, he will do something for you. That's the basis on which Trump built bridges to conservatives.
00:13:58.200
It's the basis on which he built a pro-Israel policy in his first term. What Trump has seen from
00:14:04.040
the American Jewish community in general, there have been exceptions, but what he is seeing from
00:14:08.600
the mainstream institutions of the Jewish community is that these institutions aren't thanking him
00:14:13.640
for helping the community. They're not thanking him for helping Israel. The people on the street that
00:14:18.280
Avi Amini interviewed, ordinary Jewish people understand, but the establishment leadership
00:14:22.760
of the Jewish community is condemning Donald Trump. They are following the Democratic playbook because
00:14:27.560
they are deeply, deeply invested in the success of the Democratic Party. They are owned in many ways
00:14:33.080
by the Democratic Party. And so they have spurned Donald Trump. They have not thanked him. Again,
00:14:38.120
there are exceptions on the political right within the Jewish community, the Republican Jewish Coalition,
00:14:42.440
the Zionist Organization of America, but the mainstream Jewish institutions have been downright nasty to
00:14:48.040
Donald Trump. The Muslim American leadership in this country is starting to look at that and
00:14:52.840
realizing there is a gap, and we can fill that gap, and we can approach Donald Trump and say,
00:14:58.440
you know what, we are going to support you because we understand that you bring peace. After all,
00:15:03.320
he did bring peace for four years. We are going to support you, and after the election, we are going to
00:15:08.520
have a seat at the table this time. I think the American Jewish community has made a disastrous
00:15:14.200
political choice by opposing Donald Trump so vociferously that it has created an opening for
00:15:20.120
the Muslim American community, for the Arab American community, who have every right to participate in
00:15:24.440
politics and do deserve a seat at the table as ordinary Americans, but who will now have a greater
00:15:29.160
say on Middle East policy, I believe, potentially, in the next Trump administration because the Jewish
00:15:34.520
American leadership has simply been ungracious and has not shown gratitude toward the things that
00:15:42.120
Donald Trump has done. He's still going to be pro-Israel, but he's going to be listening to other
00:15:46.280
voices in the room this time, and when Jewish leaders want to look around for someone to blame,
00:15:50.760
they should find a handy mirror because they will only have themselves to blame.
00:15:54.120
Wow, very, very thoughtful, and I think there's echoes of that in Canada and certainly in the United
00:15:58.920
Kingdom as well. One of the interesting things is how podcasts, that is sort of amateur people with video or
00:16:08.360
audio shows, including comedians, have really been a big part of the campaign, especially for the
00:16:13.640
Donald Trump side. I think Kamala Harris has really resisted doing interviews, but I saw Donald Trump
00:16:19.320
sit down with Theo Vaughn. J.D. Vance sat down with Theo Vaughn. He's a sort of a kooky and and somewhat
00:16:26.440
dirty comedian and just an hour. They talk politics, but they also banter, and I think it really humanized
00:16:33.160
them. J.D. Vance, who's being called weird by the Democrats, I think he came off great. There was a
00:16:39.320
an interview that Donald Trump did with Joe Rogan. I'm not sure how long it was. I think it was almost
00:16:43.960
three hours long. That takes stamina, that if you have an irascible or irritating personality, you can't
00:16:53.880
control that for three hours. You have a chance to really show who you are, and that interview with Joe
00:17:00.760
Rogan, I think it was a hit for Trump. It was very popular. YouTube almost immediately made it
00:17:06.760
disappear. It doesn't show up in the search engines, which tells you a lot. Kamala Harris has avoided
00:17:12.760
these things. What do you think is going to happen? I think it's normalizing and humanizing Trump and
00:17:17.400
Vance, and I think that Kamala Harris is basically trying to hide from microphones as much as possible.
00:17:22.840
What do you think? Well, that's certainly true, and what Donald Trump has done is he's gone outside the
00:17:29.560
mainstream media, which until 2016 really was the filter for American politicians to reach the
00:17:36.840
American people. He realizes that our media landscape is now very splintered, and these
00:17:43.560
podcasts have massive audiences. He has also reached out to these audiences because he's doing better
00:17:49.800
among male voters who are overrepresented in some of the podcast audiences. Joe Rogan's 50 million male
00:17:57.160
listeners, for example, now know more about Donald Trump than they did before. There were some certain
00:18:02.120
things said on that podcast, like debunking the very fine people hoax, which you and I have talked
00:18:06.120
about, which some listeners may not have been aware of before, but now they know about it. So Donald Trump
00:18:10.920
has been very successful. And look, in a way, he's taking a page out of Barack Obama's playbook. Barack
00:18:17.080
Obama, even though he was beloved by the mainstream media, would almost never grant them interviews. It was
00:18:23.080
Barack Obama who first did interviews with YouTube personalities and obscure internet stars. He would
00:18:30.760
talk to Entertainment Tonight. Barack Obama showed that there are many other media in this country
00:18:37.160
outside of the broadcast networks and the cable news networks, and you can reach more people, especially
00:18:42.200
low propensity voters, if you go outside the mainstream media channels. If Donald Trump wins this election,
00:18:48.360
it will largely be because of voters that did not vote in 2016 or 2020 and who are only coming into
00:18:54.120
the process now because they're upset with the way the country's going, but also because Donald
00:18:58.440
Trump is reaching them. Kamala Harris isn't even trying. You know, you said something that I think
00:19:03.320
is very interesting. It's that men are not warming to Kamala Harris. And I think there's some deep,
00:19:11.000
ingrained things. There's sort of a naggy, screechy thing. I mean, every man alive, there's a certain sound,
00:19:17.480
I think, that gets under men's skin. I mean, I think it might be genetically programmed, just like
00:19:21.640
as a baby's cry is a motivation for people to take care of a baby. It's deep in their bones.
00:19:27.240
I think Kamala Harris reminds people of their first wife. Kamala Harris reminds people of,
00:19:32.280
take out the garbage, mow the lawn. I asked you to take the laundry. Like, it's just a nagging,
00:19:38.440
haggling, heckling, and that laugh. I know it's not fair, but I think that a lot of men just want to
00:19:47.640
not hear her. I don't know if that's a sexist thing to say, but I think it's a phenomenon.
00:19:52.520
Let me put it slightly differently. First of all, I think men are prepared to vote for
00:19:57.960
a female candidate. There are women in politics and media who are beloved by men. Look at Megyn Kelly.
00:20:04.440
Megyn Kelly has one of the most successful podcasts in American media. She was at Fox. She was the golden
00:20:11.640
girl. She was the big star. And in many ways, she was anti-Trump back in 2015, 2016. She almost built
00:20:18.120
her brand around the idea that Hillary Clinton was going to be the next president. And when that didn't
00:20:23.800
happen and her career at Fox fell apart, she picked up the pieces and started her own podcast. And when you
00:20:31.320
listen to her podcast, she's often hanging out with guys, with male analysts, with big guys from
00:20:38.360
the political world. And what she has done is she has shown that she can be one of the guys.
00:20:43.240
And so men love her podcast. It doesn't hurt that she's attractive and she's affable and she has a
00:20:48.280
sense of humor and she can swear as well as any sailor, but she's also one of the guys. She has shown
00:20:54.360
male qualities like strength, tolerance. She can take a joke. She can take a punch. She can throw a punch.
00:21:00.280
She is a great example of the kind of persona that attracts men in politics and in media.
00:21:09.400
You can do that. Kamala Harris is, look, I'm still on wife number one. My wife also tells me to take
00:21:15.480
out the trash. In fact, I just took it out a few minutes ago. But that's not the issue. The issue is,
00:21:22.280
can you attract people who want to be themselves around you? And all you have to do to understand why
00:21:29.240
men don't like Kamala Harris is look at Doug Emhoff, okay? The second gentleman. He is not just
00:21:36.600
her husband. He is the new paragon of masculinity, according to Democrats. Democrats consider him
00:21:42.280
the country's hottest sex symbol, all right? This guy makes speeches about how bad toxic masculinity
00:21:49.480
is. And he talks about how much he tries to support his wife, but how she yells at him and how
00:21:56.360
you know, he always messes up. I mean, this guy is the ultimate beta male, at least in terms of his
00:22:01.480
persona. But then all of these allegations come out about how he impregnated the nanny in his first
00:22:07.960
marriage and how he was nasty to women at his firm. And there are allegations from an ex-girlfriend that he
00:22:14.520
slapped her so hard that she spun around. The flip side of this kind of wimpy masculinity
00:22:21.400
is a deep and dark cruelty that is the worst of masculinity. And it's not what most men are or
00:22:28.680
aspire to be. And that's the bind that Democrats have put men in. Men can't be themselves around
00:22:37.080
Democrats. Actually, it doesn't have very much to do with male or female. What Megyn Kelly understands,
00:22:43.000
and what other female politicians and hosts understand is that you have to develop a natural
00:22:47.720
bond with men and allow them to be who they are. If you try to force them into this box of,
00:22:53.080
you know, as we like to say, the pajama boy, who was one of the Barack Obama icons, selling Obamacare,
00:22:58.540
sitting in his pajamas, drinking hot chocolate and not doing a job. I mean, we're going to reject
00:23:03.560
that. We're also going to reject the over-the-top displays of masculinity of a Tim Walz who goes
00:23:08.760
pheasant hunting and can't load his own shotgun or tries to play football with AOC on Madden and
00:23:15.560
doesn't even know how to score a touchdown and claims that she's calling a pick six play. You
00:23:21.320
don't call a pick six. That's just a defensive play. You know, you don't plan for it in advance.
00:23:25.780
I mean, these over-the-top attempts to appeal to men by doing what they think are male activities,
00:23:31.420
you know, you just have to have a certain way about you. And it's not that she's a woman or a first
00:23:35.860
wife. She's simply an intolerant person because her party is intolerant.
00:23:39.620
And she's so inauthentic. You know what it is, it's inauthentic. I don't know. I really don't
00:23:45.240
know what she's like. I don't think anyone knows.
00:23:47.420
Look, I think Trump said something very nice about her. And I think Trump is correct. He was asked
00:23:52.180
probably the most interesting question Trump got in the entire campaign. It happened last week
00:23:56.000
at Univision. And you might want to find the clip because it's so good. Spanish language TV.
00:24:00.720
And a voter asked him to say three nice things about Kamala Harris. And he said it was the toughest
00:24:06.620
question he had. But he thought about it and he gave a very sincere answer. And one of the things
00:24:10.600
he said was that she seems to have a nice way about her in some settings. And he also said she seems to
00:24:17.380
have enduring friendships. There are people who've been friends with her for a very long time. And he
00:24:21.840
said that that's a very good quality. And the other thing he said he admired about her was that
00:24:25.580
she's a survivor, that she's tough. Because you don't make it through the political morass and
00:24:30.580
come out on top of her party the way she has, unless there's some toughness to you. So there
00:24:34.440
are things about her that men admire, that Trump admires. But those are not the things that they
00:24:39.300
bring out. As you say, it's the inauthenticity. Doug Emhoff is held up as the paragon of masculinity
00:24:43.540
because he's completely deferential to his wife. He's not himself. He doesn't get to be himself
00:24:49.460
except in these perverted ways, if I can use that term. And I'm not a judgmental person. I have
00:24:54.420
rather socially liberal views on most issues of sexual morality. But I mean perverted in the sense
00:24:58.700
of twisted, where it's okay to hit women, where it's okay to cheat on women, where you impregnate
00:25:03.240
the nanny and she loses the child somehow. We don't know what happened to that child. I mean,
00:25:06.900
that's a distortion of masculinity. He calls being strong and tough toxic masculinity. But he is toxic
00:25:13.520
masculinity, this kind of biebel exterior, but this cruel dark side. And that's what she evokes. And
00:25:19.880
that's why she has a problem with men. So Trump's going to all these podcasts, because that's where the men
00:25:23.940
are. And he's going to bring out men to vote in a way that I don't think we've seen in a very long
00:25:27.940
time. Very interesting. Here's the clip from Univision. We'll take a look at it.
00:25:34.060
Good evening, Mr. President. I only think it's fair to ask the same question I posed the Democrat
00:25:42.320
What are the three virtues that you see in Vice President Kamala Harris?
00:26:00.000
That's the toughest question. The other ones are easy.
00:26:04.280
I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan. I think she's harmed our country horribly, horribly at the border,
00:26:12.080
with inflation, with so many other things. But she seems to have an ability to survive.
00:26:19.280
She seemed because, you know, she was out of the race and all of a sudden she's running
00:26:23.420
for president. That's a great ability that some people have and some people don't have.
00:26:29.080
She seems to have some pretty long time friendships. And that's, you know, also that's I don't call
00:26:37.780
that an ability. I call that a good thing. And she seems to have a nice way about her. I mean,
00:26:43.300
I like the way, you know, some of her statements, some of her, the way she behaves in a certain way.
00:26:50.660
But in another way, I think it's very bad for our country, very bad for our country. But she does
00:26:58.060
seem to have some relationships that be lasting. And she does seem to be a survivor. Because remember,
00:27:04.640
she was the first one out. And all of a sudden she's running for president. And the other 21 people
00:27:08.900
that are running this sitting home watching her on television. Right. So that's by far the toughest
00:27:14.120
question I've had today. Thank you very much. I appreciate your answer. Hey, back to the mail
00:27:18.260
thing. Kamala Harris is losing black male support. And I see. And by the way, black men, black Americans
00:27:26.420
are 14 percent of the population. Black men, therefore, are around 7 percent of the population.
00:27:31.080
And I think the Democrats are used to getting six out of the seven of those votes.
00:27:34.560
And if that falls to five or four, especially in places like Philadelphia or Detroit, where there's
00:27:42.880
a lot of black men, that could tip a few things, especially in Pennsylvania. And so she's trying
00:27:49.680
to reach out to black men. And I see so many streeters where they're not having it. They don't. I think
00:27:55.680
they have some doubts as to whether or not she really is black. I think Trump planted a few thoughts
00:28:00.700
there. But when Kamala Harris came out with her black men policy, it was weird. It was, well, you
00:28:08.760
know, we'll make it so that you can get into the pot business. We'll protect your crypto. I think there
00:28:17.560
was something in there about porn, if I recall. Here's an ad that Reid Hoffman's super PAC put out
00:28:24.900
a trying to appeal to men who like pornography. This is a, I just want to give a viewer discretion.
00:28:33.160
This is a real ad run by a Democrat super PAC in support of Kamala Harris. Viewer discretion
00:28:41.960
Oh, sorry. You can't do that. What the hell, man? How'd you get in here?
00:28:49.920
I'm your Republican congressman. Now that we're in charge, we're banning Bourne nationwide.
00:28:55.860
You can't tell me what to do. Get out of my bedroom, you creep.
00:28:58.680
I won the last election. So it's my decision. I'm just going to watch and make sure you don't
00:29:06.220
That's so weird. I, Joel, I didn't think that was real. I thought that's so gross and so
00:29:12.440
unpersuasive. I thought that's got to be a satire. That was, and by the way, Reid Hoffman
00:29:18.520
of LinkedIn, he, I think he's one of the two people terrified that Trump will win and release
00:29:26.120
Right, right. You know, he, I mean, Bill Gates made a $50 million donation for the first time
00:29:31.720
in his life for the Democrats. I think they're worried. They think that's, that's the, that's
00:29:37.000
their male audience. They think that's what a real guy is like. What do you think of that?
00:29:40.540
Right. Like that men, men want marijuana and pornography and look, they're catering to men
00:29:47.000
who don't get off the couch. And like, as if men want to stay home and live with their
00:29:51.640
parents or whatever, we do have a problem at the moment in the United States and in
00:29:56.220
the West in general of men who are failing to launch, who don't get jobs, who don't start
00:30:00.960
families. And so Democrats are saying to them, it's okay. We accept you as you are. We're going
00:30:05.540
to keep supplying you with the things that allow you to waste your time. And this is not what
00:30:12.320
most American men actually want to be. There, there is a population, but, but even that population
00:30:17.780
doesn't want to live that way. I mean, they're, they're doing it because they feel a sense of
00:30:20.760
despair, but you know, black men do care about things like criminal justice reform, but they
00:30:26.500
don't want to be addressed as criminals or potential criminals. Black men want to be free. And
00:30:31.520
what's amazing about black Trump supporters or even just black Trump voters, they may not support him
00:30:37.380
in general, but they're going to vote for him this time, is how happy they are about it. When you
00:30:41.220
interview black voters and they talk about why they're voting for Trump, they're amazingly overjoyed
00:30:48.700
about it because they know they're making a statement. Same thing with Hispanic voters. I was
00:30:53.560
picking my daughter up from the bus stop the other day here in Los Angeles, and there was a Toyota
00:30:58.260
with Trump bumper stickers all over it. And there was an Hispanic woman parked at the side of the
00:31:03.820
road in this Toyota. And I leaned out my window and I said to her, you support Trump, do you? And
00:31:08.580
she, she looked at me as if she was bracing for the attack that was to come because I'm a white guy
00:31:13.220
in LA. Of course I have to be voting for Harris. And I said to her, don't worry, I do too. And she,
00:31:19.000
she smiled, this broad smile, you know, they're happy to be breaking out of the conformity and the
00:31:26.220
laziness that Democrats impose on their own voters who are not naturally inclined to the
00:31:32.960
lifestyles that Democrats have forced them into. So look, porn is an issue that has come up because
00:31:40.200
Project 2025, which was written by the Heritage Foundation, talked about some curbs on pornography.
00:31:46.000
Now, I happen to be very libertarian on these issues. In fact, in 2016, I interviewed a porn star
00:31:51.560
for Breitbart, who said she was voting for Donald Trump. And I said to her, if you're voting Republican,
00:31:58.540
how do you reconcile that? This is long before Project 2025. But how do you reconcile that with the fact
00:32:03.720
that Donald Trump himself at that time said he wants to restrict certain kinds of pornography? She
00:32:09.560
said, I agree. I mean, I make my living in the porn industry, but this is not for children. And there's
00:32:14.920
certain things that should not be on camera. And we actually do have to have some restraint because
00:32:19.000
right now we have none. And that was her answer. So we shouldn't write anybody off. And I don't
00:32:25.300
think Trump is writing anybody off. I think that Democrats, by the way, the problem with that ad,
00:32:29.580
aside from being produced by Reid Hoffman, is that they have a man coming in to enforce the anti-porn
00:32:34.580
thing. It's ridiculous because it's not credible, because the vast majority of men have some exposure
00:32:41.920
to pornography or watch it on occasion. And so to have a man banning another man from watching
00:32:45.760
pornography. It doesn't make sense. That's part of the bizarreness of the whole thing.
00:32:49.000
The whole thing was weird. Let me show you one.
00:32:51.560
It just shows you they are they have no message other than fear. And Donald Trump actually said
00:32:56.380
it best in a press conference. He said, Kamala Harris is running a campaign of hate. That's what
00:33:02.500
it is. It's actually saying you have to hate and fear the people on the other side.
00:33:06.060
It's true. And it's so funny how they project that on their own opponents. I don't want to just
00:33:11.540
make this show playing ads, but I think they reveal so much because this is the distilled
00:33:16.680
essence, if not of Kamala Harris herself, at least those around her. I want to show you
00:33:21.580
another ad. And again, I didn't think this was real. It felt so off. It felt like it was created by
00:33:29.440
AI. You know, you can sort of feel that AI is off a little bit. I thought this was a skit or a sketch
00:33:36.880
or a fake, you know, the Babylon Bee. This is an ad called Man Enough. And these are Democrats.
00:33:47.420
I know this one. This is very good. And I looked at this and I thought, has Kamala Harris
00:33:54.280
ever met a man? Do the Democrats know what men are like? Here, take a look at this.
00:34:02.580
I'm a man. I'm a man. I'm a man, man. And I'm man enough. I'm man enough to enjoy a barrel-proof
00:34:09.520
bourbon. Neat. Man enough to cook my steak rare. Man enough to deadlift 500 and braid the
00:34:15.180
out of my daughter's hair. You think I'm afraid to rebuild a carburetor? I eat carburetors for
00:34:19.600
breakfast. I ain't afraid of bears. That's what bear hugs are for. I'll tell you another thing I
00:34:23.860
sure as I'm not afraid of. Women. I'm not afraid of women. I'm not afraid of women. They want to
00:34:29.780
control their bodies? I say go for it. They want to use IVF to start a family? I'm not afraid of
00:34:34.740
families. They want to be childless cat ladies? Have all the cats you want. Woman wants to be
00:34:39.080
president? Well, I hope she has the guts to look me right in the eye and accept my full-throated
00:34:43.280
endorsement. Because I'm man enough to support women. Man enough to know what kind of donuts
00:34:47.640
I like. Man enough to admit I'm lost even when I refuse to ask for directions. Man enough to not ban
00:34:53.320
young women from reading little women. Or one of those pants books that the sisters like. I'm man
00:34:57.960
enough to raw dog a flight. It sucked. Not worth it. I'm man enough to be emotional in front of my
00:35:03.800
wife. In front of my kids. In front of my horse. I'm man enough to tell you that I cry at love
00:35:09.680
actually. Goodwill hunting. West side story. That. And predator. And I'm sick of so-called men
00:35:14.960
domineering, belittling, and controlling women just so they can feel more powerful. That's not how my
00:35:20.420
mama raised me. I love women. I love women who support their families. Women who decide not to have
00:35:25.540
families. Women who take charge. And I'm man enough to help them win.
00:35:32.580
Yeah, I, you know, some of those people are actors. Live from New York, it's Saturday night.
00:35:36.740
Yeah, I swear. It felt, every single one of them felt off. That one guy sitting like that,
00:35:44.420
I think, I saw someone who did a little bio on each of them and had the links to prove it. I actually
00:35:49.940
think he was gay. So when he said, you know, not afraid of women and we love women, I'm not sure if
00:35:54.380
that guy was being completely candid. Um, I don't know. I just think that is so weird. I don't think
00:35:59.980
they know what men are like. I don't think one of my colleagues, one of my colleagues had a great
00:36:05.360
insight about that ad, which is that the ad is actually aimed at women because what, what the
00:36:10.720
ad does is it reminds women that women really run the democratic party because that is a set of
00:36:18.140
idealized male types who in the minds of a female audience are deferential to women's idea of how
00:36:26.420
they should relate. So it was weird on purpose because that is what other women in the Democrats
00:36:31.960
want. That's the men they're looking for. They're looking for the men who cry. They're looking for
00:36:37.360
the men who tell them they don't have to have families. They're looking for the men who will
00:36:41.500
participate in IVF. There's nothing wrong with IVF, by the way. I mean, I have family members who've
00:36:46.080
been through IVF, you know, it's look, most men don't tell you that they are men and they don't
00:36:53.420
tell you what it takes to be a man, but your father will, your coach will, your teacher will
00:36:58.980
privately, not publicly. And usually when they're telling you to be a man, it involves facing some
00:37:03.860
difficulty. Not one of those men talked about a difficulty. They talked about tastes and preferences.
00:37:09.420
There's nothing manly about tastes and preferences. Being manly is sucking up a bad situation at work
00:37:17.460
and going to work even for someone you don't like because you've got to pay the bills. That's what
00:37:22.460
a man has to do. Or being a man is apologizing to somebody when you don't think you were wrong
00:37:27.160
or getting abused by a coach on the football field because he's just trying to, I mean, I don't mean like
00:37:33.640
in a criminal way or a sexual way, but, you know, being sworn at by a coach who's mean and who's
00:37:38.940
trying to make you succeed. That, you know, being a man is all about facing difficulty. That's really
00:37:43.620
all it is when men talk to each other about being men. And it's usually in a father-son kind of
00:37:47.760
relationship. Men don't talk to each other like that. I mean, I know there are some men, I guess,
00:37:51.440
in the men's movement. I'm not trying to knock that, but men don't typically talk this way at all.
00:37:55.960
Um, I, you know, I don't know. Men, men don't relate to this at all. This was an ad aimed at
00:38:05.060
women. Yeah. That- The only part I related to was Good Will Hunting. I really liked that movie.
00:38:09.620
I think your, your friend who gave you this theory cracked the code because I thought,
00:38:14.580
how can that, they've got to know that's not real. And, and you've just told us why.
00:38:19.500
I think there's a huge thirst by men to know what men should be. Jordan Peterson's success
00:38:25.860
success. For better or for worse, Andrew Tate's success. Even our friend Gavin McInnes,
00:38:30.660
the Proud Boys. It's about men wanting to, to do manly things. And part of that is working.
00:38:36.080
I think the essential duty of a man is to work. And I don't think the Democrats believe that
00:38:41.260
themselves. Um. Well, the most, there's, you'll never touch the manliest gesture in the last
00:38:48.340
century of American history, which is getting shot in the head and getting up with your fist raised.
00:38:53.200
Yeah. I mean, there's nothing manlier than that. I mean, it's just never, you know, so she needed to
00:38:59.780
approach this issue entirely differently. Um, they're also trying to shame men. Michelle Obama
00:39:04.380
gave a speech. I don't know if you can find a clip of that. Michelle Obama gave a speech saying,
00:39:08.580
we're going to tell the men in our lives that we're not going to accept them voting the other way,
00:39:13.140
because that's a form of violence against us or whatever she said, basically telling women
00:39:17.340
to threaten the men in their lives, their husbands, their boyfriends. And that's that fingernails on
00:39:22.260
the chalkboard sound. I didn't describe it right, but, but every man knows that sound here. Let's
00:39:29.020
play a clip of that. Michelle Obama walking entitlement and, and, oh, take a look.
00:39:38.880
We have every right to demand that our, the men in our lives do better by us.
00:39:47.880
We have to use our voices to make these choices clear to the men that we love. Our lives are worth
00:39:56.800
more than their anger and disappointment. And we are more than just baby making vessels.
00:40:10.800
And if you are a woman who lives in a household of men that don't listen to you or value your opinion,
00:40:17.800
just remember that your vote is a private matter of the political views of your partner. You get to
00:40:29.800
choose. You get to use your judgment and cast your vote for yourself and the women in your life. Remember
00:40:36.800
women standing up for what is best for us can make the difference in this election. You know,
00:40:44.800
you know, she described men as being full of anger and disappointment. She described men valuing women
00:40:51.860
as baby making vessels. I think that the men she must know sound awful and atrocious, but I,
00:41:02.800
the vision, go ahead. When you're a man and you get a lecture like that from a woman,
00:41:08.180
even a woman you love, what it tells you is that the best way for you to express your freedom is to
00:41:13.660
quietly, just as she said, quietly in the privacy of the voting booth, vote exactly as you want to
00:41:19.120
vote and not the way she's telling you to vote. You know, I think, I think half the appeal of vote
00:41:23.680
by mail to Democrats is that it allows women to monitor the votes of their husbands. I'm only
00:41:29.360
half serious when I say that, but look, this idea, I mean, the worst line in there is actually that
00:41:34.540
we're more than baby making machines. Okay. There's no man that looks at a woman as a baby making
00:41:39.520
machine. Okay. You know, but when you listen to a Megyn Kelly, there's an understanding that she has
00:41:48.240
that at some level men are, maybe it's biological, men are programmed to objectify women for the
00:41:54.220
purpose of survival, at least in some small part of their minds. And, and that is normal and natural.
00:41:59.860
And, you know, if you're a woman, you can ignore it and you can roll with it. You can do whatever you
00:42:03.900
want with it, but that is part of the male brain. It's not all of the male brain. And it's certainly not
00:42:08.500
everything a man wants from a woman. So for her to say that it just, again, as you said,
00:42:13.600
it reflects something about her relationships, but I can tell you, it is the worst marital advice
00:42:18.440
in the world to tell your husband or your boyfriend or whatever, that if he votes the wrong way,
00:42:24.200
he's condoning violence against you. You know, it's, it's really detrimental to what this country
00:42:31.320
actually needs in a very serious way as a social problem, which is more families, more family
00:42:36.880
harmony, more children, more peace in the home. Politics has really escalated to the level where
00:42:42.920
it is going to break some families up. And it's because of speeches like that. Very bad advice.
00:42:48.580
You know, that's that Mark Halpern clip. I mean, there is, if Trump wins, there is going to be a
00:42:55.000
mental health crisis. I think he's totally right. Let's end with an interesting thing that I read.
00:43:00.520
I actually don't read the Washington Post a lot. I'm not American. And it just feels so dreary.
00:43:07.560
And don't worry, Americans don't read it either. Yeah. But it still has the Washington Post and the
00:43:12.840
New York Times are the two biggest brands in newspaperdom in the entire country, far ahead of
00:43:18.720
the Wall Street Journal or the New York Post. The New York Times is number one. Washington Post is
00:43:23.080
number two. And on foreign affairs and inside the Beltway stuff, Washington Post is number one.
00:43:27.480
And that's exactly why Jeff Bezos, one of the richest men in the world because of Amazon,
00:43:31.940
bought it because he gets a seat at the table. Buying the Washington Post and running it and
00:43:38.800
having his hand on it is the equivalent of hiring 100 lobbyists in town because he controls the thing
00:43:45.860
politicians crave the most. And in the past week, the Washington Post announced that it is not going
00:43:54.740
to endorse anybody. Although I think it's very clear that every single one of their columnists is
00:44:00.020
a Democrat. It doesn't, their coverage, I mean, I don't know why an official endorsement is necessary.
00:44:04.880
We all know who they support. But he wrote, he wrote saying that we don't need to do that.
00:44:10.380
We have to be accurate, but we have to be seen as accurate. And we're losing the trust of voters.
00:44:15.860
We're even less lovable than Congress. It was a very thoughtful letter. And he said, look, we've
00:44:23.120
just got to be a little less partisan and a little, we have to seem more accurate to our viewers.
00:44:28.480
And the rebellion and the resignations and the campaign to cancel subscriptions, what's going on
00:44:36.600
over there? His critics would say, oh, he's sucking up to Trump because he doesn't want Trump to hurt
00:44:41.720
Amazon if Trump becomes president. I think he's more genuine. By the way, after the assassination
00:44:47.680
attempt, Jeff Bezos wrote what I think was a very honest tweet saying he felt exhilarated by Trump
00:44:55.240
standing up and waving his fist, that he thought that was an incredibly brave moment. What's going on
00:44:59.500
with Jeff Bezos? Is this just some marketing ploy or some op? What's going on?
00:45:04.380
The owner of a newspaper has very little power over the newsroom. Even if he or she wanted to
00:45:12.060
exert power, they don't really have a lot of it. The one area in which they do have power is over
00:45:18.060
the editorial page and over this issue specifically, over a presidential endorsement. What's happening to
00:45:24.900
the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times and other publications that have decided not to endorse
00:45:29.820
is simply that they are losing money hand over fist. They cannot retain their readers because their
00:45:36.580
readers don't trust them, because these partisan publications are boring, they're tedious, and they're
00:45:41.620
untrustworthy. He can't fix that overnight, but he wants a seat at the table, and he's hedging his bets. He
00:45:49.500
believes that Donald Trump has a good chance of winning, and he doesn't want to have his reporters in the
00:45:56.180
White House briefing room looked upon by Trump or by his press secretary as if they're simply arms of
00:46:02.500
the Democratic Party. They may be that, but I think what he's hoping to do is to slowly turn that big
00:46:08.980
ship around and to get back to where at least there's some credibility still with the news organization
00:46:14.340
so they can bring readers back, and so they can actually report news that is trusted by people, and so
00:46:19.940
they can get access, frankly, to the White House and to other places. If Donald Trump wins this election,
00:46:25.500
it will be a victory over the media as much as or even more than over the Democratic Party, and he and
00:46:32.060
the other owners don't want to be on the losing side of that battle anymore, or rather, they've lost
00:46:36.680
enough already, and they've got to do something to save their business. You know, he bought the Washington
00:46:41.900
Post so he would have a voice, but if the Post fails, there goes his voice, and the Post is so bad that
00:46:47.980
even their conservative columnists are liberals. That's not a credible publication in any way
00:46:54.460
anymore, and they are trying to save their brand. They're trying to save their business.
00:47:00.060
Look, if the Washington Post did fail, he wouldn't really feel the pinch financially, but what else is
00:47:05.620
he going to do? He needs a seat at the table. He wants a seat at the table, and he's got to save that
00:47:10.900
publication if he wants that voice. So I see it as a way of basically betting on a probable Trump victory,
00:47:19.540
which is still, you know, a difficult thing to predict. It's 50-50. I do think he's going to win, by the way,
00:47:24.980
but it's going to be very close, but, or it could be very close. It could be a landslide. We don't know.
00:47:29.880
But I think that he is exerting power in the one way he can, and look, it's taking a lot of people by surprise.
00:47:37.300
I think that the reporters who are upset about it are right to be upset, because if you're allowing
00:47:41.720
the newspaper to run itself in a certain fashion, and then you do this complete 180 right before the
00:47:46.340
election, it's pretty jarring for the editors, but he has every right to do it, and it's the right thing
00:47:51.080
to do. You know, he's a tech boss, and we talked about YouTube hiding Joe Rogan's interview with the
00:47:58.680
president, but the one name we haven't mentioned is Elon Musk, who now has the number one news app in
00:48:04.240
the world. X, formerly called Twitter, and Elon Musk is campaigning every day in Pennsylvania. He set up a
00:48:11.060
super PAC called America that is giving away a million bucks a day to people who sign his petition, so he must
00:48:17.560
be gathering a ton of names and voter data, and he says he's willing to work in some role in a Trump
00:48:26.240
administration to get government efficiency, and I think he could do that. I mean, he's such a cost cutter
00:48:32.240
in his own companies. Give me, before we go, and you've been very generous with your time, give me
00:48:36.580
one minute on Elon Musk. I saw him compared to that character in the movie Iron Man, the richest man in
00:48:42.960
the world, the inventor gadget guy, and I thought, you know, there's just a little bit of something
00:48:49.000
there. Like, he's just an eccentric techno wizard launching rockets, making Tesla cars, billions of
00:48:57.700
dollars, a quarter of a trillion dollars, and there he is, giving goofy, but sometimes actually
00:49:02.040
very passionate, very thoughtful speeches. Give me a word on Elon Musk.
00:49:07.420
Elon Musk's role in the campaign is incredibly important, and look, we are critical of him at
00:49:12.900
Breitbart because of his dalliances with the Chinese Communist Party, and he has some other issues with some
00:49:19.720
of his companies and so forth. He's not always so principled and so forth. Tough boss to work for,
00:49:24.600
you might say, but he has stood for free speech. He put his own money on the line, acquiring Twitter
00:49:30.400
for much more than it was worth, and in so doing, he revealed the extent of government collusion with
00:49:35.520
Silicon Valley and the censorship of Americans, and the vision of America he's fighting for is a vision
00:49:40.820
of limitless possibility, where you can go to Mars, where you can catch a rocket booster with a pair of
00:49:45.900
chopsticks, where we don't even know what inventions could emerge in the next several years, where kids
00:49:51.880
can grow up dreaming of visiting another planet and actually making it happen. That's the America
00:49:56.440
he believes in. Peter Thiel gave a similar speech in 2016 when he spoke at the Republican National
00:50:01.600
Convention. He's sitting out of politics this time around, but Peter Thiel, who was Elon Musk's
00:50:06.060
business partner at PayPal way back when, said the same thing, that we used to be a country that
00:50:11.920
dreamed big. John F. Kennedy said we're going to the moon, and Ronald Reagan talked about Star Wars
00:50:16.460
as a defense system. These things have happened, but they happened because we were led by people
00:50:20.720
who dreamed big, and for whom something like cancer moonshot, which is one of Joe Biden's
00:50:25.100
refrains, wasn't just a kind of political throwaway line, but it was actually a way of life. Let's look
00:50:29.720
for innovators. Let's look for inventors. Let's look for entrepreneurs. Let's look for people who are
00:50:33.360
going to change the world, and that's really what Western civilization is about. Exploration has been
00:50:39.140
so run down. You know, Columbus is the great destroyer of indigenous civilization, and now they'll hate
00:50:45.500
him even more that he turned out to be Jewish. You know, I mean, but exploration is what the West is
00:50:50.720
about. It's where every other great civilization failed. China was way ahead of the rest of the
00:50:55.520
world, but didn't explore. The Islamic world didn't explore. They preserved the great wisdom of the
00:51:00.560
Greeks, but they didn't expand wisdom because they sought to create a perfect static world, and they still
00:51:05.420
do. But the West believes in expanding possibilities, and that's why Elon Musk is so important to this
00:51:11.520
campaign. American presidential elections have always been won on platforms of growth, and even
00:51:17.420
our leftists have emphasized growth. Barack Obama was a growth candidate, even if none of his policies
00:51:23.100
tended in that direction. Kamala Harris is not a growth president. She's a redistribution president.
00:51:28.460
She's a business-as-usual, bureaucracy-as-usual president, and when you have those systems, you can look at
00:51:33.380
Western Europe. You can look at the Islamic world. Look at South Africa, a wonderful experiment in
00:51:38.320
democracy ruined by the kind of racial politics the Democrats have imported into American culture.
00:51:43.820
Elon Musk stands for breaking out of that and is achieving a kind of escape velocity from the
00:51:49.400
stultifying rhetoric of left-wing politics and getting out into discovery. And he's not a social
00:51:55.120
conservative, although he's become more conservative on issues like abortion and so forth, but he really
00:51:59.820
believes in opening up possibilities. And that is exciting, whether Trump wins or not. The fact that
00:52:05.440
people are talking about that again is very good for America and for the world.
00:52:08.780
Yeah, you're right. You know, I'm going to leave it there because you've been so generous with your
00:52:12.700
time, but there are amazing things like RFK Jr. Imagine putting him in charge of the health of
00:52:19.200
America. I mean, there's a phrase, M-A-G-A, make America great again, MAGA, but M-A-H-A, make America
00:52:28.100
healthy again. Just saying that, you know, and he talks about kids being overweight and exercise and
00:52:34.920
the food pyramid. And yeah, I mean, I don't know. I find it appealing and I love sort of the bipartisan
00:52:40.720
nature of it. And RFK Jr. is such an interesting guy. And I like Trump. I don't want him anywhere
00:52:46.720
near environmentalist policy. But I don't know. I just think it's a very interesting time.
00:52:51.060
And if this, you know, League of Justice sort of superheroes, Batman and Superman and the Green
00:52:58.900
Lantern, if they all win, I think it's going to be an amazing time for America and the world.
00:53:03.120
If Kamala Harris wins, I think it's going to be the decline of America in a way that may not be
00:53:11.160
Well, let me put you at ease about something. I do think that's possible if she wins. I do think
00:53:16.520
it's possible that we decline. And I do think our enemies will be bolder if she wins. That's for
00:53:21.140
sure. I mean, we predicted that four years ago, that there would be war. Middle East would be a
00:53:24.780
massive. Joe Biden won. And that's what happened. So there are certain bad outcomes that will
00:53:28.160
transpire. But I do think that the American spirit can survive a Kamala Harris or Kamala Harris
00:53:33.860
presidency, because I think what will simply happen is what's happened in other societies and what's
00:53:38.700
happened in this country, too, in the past, which is that people withdraw from politics and they find
00:53:43.220
their freedom somewhere else. That's too bad for us as a country in some ways. In a way, it's almost
00:53:48.960
the Atlas-shrugged vision of a kind of dystopian future where people pull out of the public, they
00:53:55.960
pull out of society, and they create their own universes somewhere else. But you can't kill that
00:54:01.240
thirst for freedom quite so easily. And I think it will exist outside of government. I prefer, again,
00:54:07.020
not to see this happen. I'd like to see our civic life be strong and virtuous and exciting.
00:54:12.260
But if Kamala Harris wins, it won't be. But people will still find that somewhere else. People will
00:54:17.540
build alternatives outside government. It will make us weaker as a society and a civilization.
00:54:22.580
But there will still be places, I believe, to go to find freedom and happiness. We just won't
00:54:28.720
take the system seriously anymore. So I think even if she wins, because of the way she's campaigned,
00:54:34.100
calling Trump a Nazi and all that, I think even if she wins, she loses. I don't think there's any way
00:54:38.300
she can govern successfully if she wins. What I would worry about is 50 million migrants
00:54:43.300
turning the swing states blue forever. Elon Musk has elocuted that, and I think he's spot on.
00:54:50.620
It's a huge problem. And the adjustment would have to be a kind of mass internal migration of
00:54:56.420
Americans who want to live with other Americans in states that essentially, they don't secede from
00:55:01.580
the United States, but they put up all kinds of barriers to entry. And that's, you know, again,
00:55:06.000
there will be an internal resolution against these policies. But these policies cannot work,
00:55:12.260
even if she wins. Again, they just cannot work. You know, George Orwell used to say,
00:55:17.300
the greatest opponent of a left-wing government is its prior propaganda. But really, the greatest
00:55:21.980
opponent of a Kamala Harris administration would be Kamala Harris's policies. She just simply wouldn't
00:55:26.520
be able to do anything. Again, migration and so forth. And look, Americans would withdraw away from
00:55:33.100
places that migrants are going and would resist efforts to bring them there. You know, I live in
00:55:38.920
LA. California has a huge number of migrants. But I live on a hill. It's a little harder to get up this
00:55:44.800
hill. You know, people will find their cities on a hill. That's where the phrase comes from. You know,
00:55:50.360
it comes from the Bible originally. But the idea is, you know, the city of Jerusalem, the ideal city is
00:55:54.820
not so easy to get to. And it's a walled city. So we can either build that wall around our country,
00:55:59.980
or we can build it within our country. But that's really what's going to happen.
00:56:03.100
Well, that's the South African story, isn't it?
00:56:06.120
Well, Joel, great to catch up with you. One week to go. Joel Pollack, senior editor at large at
00:56:11.040
Breitbart.com. Keep up the fight down there. Good luck.
00:56:14.740
Right. There you have it. Well, it's great to be back in Canada. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here
00:56:20.520
at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.