Rebel News Podcast - July 02, 2025


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trump's mass deportation agenda comes to fruition—Canada, take note!


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What does the word remigration mean to Donald Trump and what does it mean to the rest of the world? Ezra Levenson explains on the Ezra Lee Vaynerchuck Show on July 2nd, 2019.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Good news from Syria. Have you ever heard those words before? I haven't.
00:00:05.800 But things are moving in Syria. Did you know Donald Trump lifted the sanctions? And here's
00:00:10.360 something I bet you didn't know. Did you know 1.4 million Syrian refugees have gone home?
00:00:17.480 Hey, are you thinking what I'm thinking? I'll talk to you a little bit about the word
00:00:20.860 remigration today. But first, let me invite you to get a subscription to what we call
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00:00:55.160 Tonight, what did Donald Trump mean by the word remigration? It's July 2nd,
00:01:01.880 and this is the Ezra LeVance Show.
00:01:06.460 Shame on you, you censorious bug.
00:01:18.420 Oh, hi, everybody. Look at this tweet from last year by Donald Trump. This was from September
00:01:24.120 in 2024 in the closing weeks of the presidential election campaign. He said,
00:01:29.980 as president, I will immediately end the migrant invasion of America. We will stop all migrant 1.00
00:01:36.160 flights and all illegal entries, terminate the Kamala phone app for smuggling illegals,
00:01:43.260 revoke deportation immunity, suspend refugee resettlement, and return Kamala's illegal migrants
00:01:48.960 to their home countries, also known as remigration. I will save our cities and towns, etc. 1.00
00:01:56.540 Remigration. It's a fairly new word to me. Trump has used it a few times. He's introducing it into
00:02:01.660 the political lexicon. Here he is saying it a few weeks ago. It's a long post, so I'll just quote
00:02:06.760 one sentence. Our federal government will continue to be focused on the remigration of aliens to the
00:02:13.000 places from where they came and prevented the, preventing the admission of anyone who undermines
00:02:18.160 the domestic tranquility of the United States. So now he's putting the word in all capital letters,
00:02:24.320 remigration, to send you back where you came from. He's been saying this in one way or another for a
00:02:30.620 long time. I mean, here he is in 2015, before he even became the Republican candidate.
00:02:35.740 The executive order gets rescinded. One good thing about it. You'll rescind that one too?
00:02:40.620 One good thing about it. You'll rescind the dream out executive order. You're going to have to.
00:02:43.320 We have to make a whole new set of standards. And when people come in, they have to come in.
00:02:48.000 So you're going to split up families? Chuck. You're going to deport children?
00:02:50.000 No, no. We're going to keep the families together. We have to keep the families together.
00:02:53.460 But you're going to keep them together out? But they have to go. But they have to go.
00:02:56.000 What if they have no place to go? We will work with them. They have to go. Chuck, we either have a country or we
00:03:01.720 don't have a country. The cost of doing this, how do you do it? The cost of doing it.
00:03:05.460 But look at the cost of what we have right now. The cost of doing it. Let me ask you this.
00:03:08.760 I understand that, but how do you do it? Do you think there's tremendous cost for the illegals
00:03:13.220 that are in here right now? Of course there's cost to it. Okay. Tremendous.
00:03:16.500 Do you think there's tremendous crime being committed by illegals? No, there's definitely 1.00
00:03:20.400 evidence that it's happened. Tremendous. Far greater than what they do. And you see it all over
00:03:24.640 just last night. All over. We will do it and we will expedite it so people can come back in.
00:03:31.140 It's still not clear. Chuck, Chuck, it'll work out so well. You will be so
00:03:35.320 happy. In four years, you're going to be interviewing me and you're going to say,
00:03:38.780 what a great job you've done. So don't be surprised. He's been saying it for a decade.
00:03:42.900 And just the other day, I saw that Secretary of State Marco Rubio in this news story by Axios,
00:03:49.260 let me read the headline, State Department seeks to create office of remigration in restructuring.
00:03:54.920 That's amazing. That I would imagine would be about pushing foreign countries to take back their 1.00
00:04:00.280 illegals. For example, something Pakistan refuses to do for criminal illegals from the UK. By the way,
00:04:06.360 what exactly does remigration means in terms of getting it going? Well, the first rule of holes is 0.99
00:04:13.300 when you're in one, stop digging, right? And there's a huge and important accomplishment by Trump
00:04:18.100 just to stop new border crossing. It's almost down to zero. The number of illegals just walking into the
00:04:26.100 United States has fallen to close to zero. And they're not being released within America as Biden
00:04:31.720 had done. Biden could have closed the border in a moment, but it was a deliberate decision and a
00:04:36.920 deliberate strategy by the Democrats to bring in literally millions of illegals to turn the country 0.97
00:04:41.840 against itself by laying the groundwork for simply importing millions of people who would become 1.00
00:04:47.260 naturalized citizens and vote Democrat, not to mention the chaos they would cause in the meantime. 0.83
00:04:51.660 And the big bucks involved with migrants from free hotels to free lawyers and all down that food 1.00
00:04:57.640 chain. So Trump turned off the tap, but what do you do with the millions in the U S already? Well,
00:05:02.940 Trump has, you know, he's nearly six months into his term. I checked. He is 11% done his second
00:05:09.140 term. 11%. He has not deported 11% of illegals. That would have mean he would have deported
00:05:14.880 a million people so far, and he has not done so. He sent home thousands. He started with the worst,
00:05:22.840 particularly gang members that were sent to El Salvador's super max terrorist prison, but
00:05:28.600 at his current rate, it just won't be done. He needs remigration. Some of that is by turning off the 0.99
00:05:36.820 taps of free stuff. That's hard to do. Of course, there's so much free stuff comes from states and cities
00:05:42.560 and private NGOs by free stuff. I mean, welfare and healthcare and food stamps, stuff like that.
00:05:47.620 Still, of course, Trump can turn a lot of that off. He has levers. Look at how he's managed to convince
00:05:52.480 wealthy universities to do the right thing simply by threatening to turn off their federal cash or
00:05:58.240 taking them to court. I mean, I don't know if you heard, but the university of Pennsylvania just
00:06:01.540 announced that it is going to apologize to every woman and girl that they have ever made compete
00:06:07.120 against a man in a sport. And they're also going to strip all those men of their fake awards and give
00:06:12.920 those awards to their proper female recipients. Complete abject apologies from University of
00:06:18.200 Pennsylvania. And it's all because of money and Trump going to battle over it. They don't want to
00:06:24.120 be punished legally and financially for breaking civil rights laws. Trump's team could use levers
00:06:30.460 against cities and states that don't cooperate, too. They're getting pretty creative. But again,
00:06:34.760 kicking them out. You can do it through force, through immigration cops and raids and then 0.99
00:06:41.120 deportations. That's what Trump has generally done. But what if you simply convince them to go to
00:06:47.440 self-deport? Now, you might think, who would ever do that? Why would you ever do that? Well, let me tell
00:06:54.180 you one reason why it could and should be done. Here's a study from the Netherlands that helped set the
00:06:59.120 context for how much is at stake money-wise and how much can be saved by not letting
00:07:04.740 these folks in in the first place and how much could be saved by getting them to
00:07:08.480 remigrate home. Look at this. Again, Dutch study published in the reputable
00:07:12.720 Telegraph of London. The negative contribution is especially large for asylum seekers from 1.00
00:07:18.820 Africa and the Middle East, say authors Jan van der Beek, Joop Hartog, and Garrett Kreffer,
00:07:24.660 and Hans Rodenberg. Sorry, I didn't give you a proper introduction. This is a Dutch study
00:07:29.420 of the cost of immigrants being cited in the Telegraph of London. The burden of the taxpayer
00:07:36.160 for each family migrant that comes to the Netherlands is 200,000 euros, according to their
00:07:40.940 report. I mean, look at this. The authors write that Western migrants made a total contribution
00:07:47.940 of 900 million euros to the Dutch economy in 2016. Migrants arriving from countries like the UK,
00:07:56.280 US, and Japan are expected to contribute more to the Dutch economy than they take out. Okay,
00:08:01.300 that's not too surprising because they're typically educated. They're culturally fit. They have language
00:08:05.920 skills. In comparison, those arriving from non-Western countries received 18.2 billion euros in the same
00:08:14.800 year. So those arriving from Sudan, Morocco, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria were said to have cost the
00:08:19.560 Dutch taxpayer the most. Did you get that list of countries? Sudan, Morocco, Afghanistan, Iraq, and
00:08:25.140 Syria. Well, that sounds like Canada's migration shopping list, doesn't it? We take in a lot of 1.00
00:08:31.840 Somalis too, and Pakistanis. I quoted the study, which is in euros. Each euro is worth about a buck 60
00:08:38.360 Canadian. So those are huge numbers. Those numbers suggest that each migrant family is more than 300,000
00:08:48.800 Canadian dollars in costs to Canada over their lifetime. Of course, they're not doctors and
00:08:55.920 scientists. They're at most Uber drivers or low-skilled laborers or other temporary foreign workers, but they 1.00
00:09:02.400 get all the good stuff for free. Free healthcare, free schooling, free everything, free housing even.
00:09:06.740 So if you know that each migrant from the third world is going to cost you a bundle, again, it varies
00:09:13.360 by type of migrant and where they're from, but let's be honest, we're no longer bringing in the world's 1.00
00:09:17.640 best here. It's not thousands of people coming from Japan every day. It's almost unlimited what you
00:09:24.640 would pay these people to stop the flood and to return to sender, to get remigration going. Here's a 0.54
00:09:33.120 story in Gateway Pundit the other day. Don't be astonished when Sweden is offering more than 50
00:09:40.460 grand per migrant to leave. Let me quote from Gateway Pundit. Sweden's center-right coalition
00:09:46.240 government, supported by the national conservative Sweden Democrats, is set to roll out a sweeping new
00:09:51.380 plan that will dramatically increase financial incentives for migrants who voluntarily leave the
00:09:55.960 country, marking one of the most generous, quote, return grant programs in Europe. Unveiled on
00:10:02.440 Wednesday, the proposed policy would offer up to 600,000 Swedish kroners, that's 61,000 U.S., to migrant
00:10:09.940 families who choose to repatriate or resettle outside the European Union and select neighboring
00:10:16.020 countries. Individual adults could receive up to 350,000 Swedish kroner, while couples may qualify for
00:10:23.820 500,000 Swedish kroners. Families would also be eligible for an additional 25,000 per child
00:10:30.060 under 18, capped at 600,000 Swedish kroners. It's an enormous amount of money. It sounds incredible.
00:10:40.500 Sounds like winning the lottery for these folks. And it is. I mean, imagine being paid north of 50
00:10:45.600 grand Canadian to leave a country that's not even your country. You just went there and you won this 0.82
00:10:50.660 jackpot if you leave. But believe it or not, and I'm sure it is easy for you to believe, it is worth
00:10:56.400 it compared to the hundreds of thousands of dollars these same migrants will cost Sweden in the long 1.00
00:11:01.160 term. Of course, this only works if you're stopping people coming in in the first place. Paying people
00:11:07.000 to leave doesn't work if they can come right back in easily and freely. But if you've closed the door
00:11:11.580 in, you can get them out any way you can. And we're just talking about dollars so far. What's the cost to
00:11:17.320 society in terms of cultural breakdown and even violence and even, I hate to say it,
00:11:21.940 rape? People from low-trust societies where women are not treated fairly. Easy pickings. 0.95
00:11:28.680 Which brings me to a video I saw the other day. In Dublin, one of my favorite cities,
00:11:33.440 new Somali refugees have started to arrive, not from Somalia, but from Sweden. That's curious.
00:11:41.400 This is from Mick O'Keefe's Twitter feed, which I go to every day. You can see they're setting up tents
00:11:48.060 in the same place where I was a year ago and saw tents. Here, take a look at the video.
00:11:52.240 We're from Sweden. The city is not filming us. It's not filming us.
00:11:57.080 Can you please delete the video? I'm asking you. I'm a kid. I'm asking you. Please delete the video.
00:12:13.580 Now, of course, there are no refugees from Sweden. You cannot be a refugee from Sweden. 0.63
00:12:18.800 It is not a dangerous place. You're safe there. Why would Somalis move from Sweden to Dublin? Well,
00:12:25.000 my theory is maybe they took the big cash payout from Sweden. Maybe they took their
00:12:29.160 60 grand. They obviously don't want to go home to Somalia. Who would? I wouldn't. 0.99
00:12:34.220 So they just moved right to another one of the high benefits, high trust
00:12:37.420 societies that haven't wised up yet. And the biggest suckers around are the Irish government.
00:12:43.360 Imagine that. I bet Canada gets a lot of these self-deported Swedes also. 1.00
00:12:47.240 Get some cash in Sweden and come to Canada for the big score.
00:12:51.500 But I was looking at Syria yesterday. You know, I was looking at how the Middle East has been
00:12:55.860 reshaped in the last couple of months. Did you know, I don't know if you know this,
00:12:59.020 Donald Trump has lifted U.S. sanctions from Syria. Do you know that? Trump is moving fast.
00:13:05.400 The Middle East is smashed and can be remade now. Iran is no longer a major factor. Syria has below 0.99
00:13:11.820 Lebanon. They're not major obstacles anymore. And Trump has given Hamas 60 days to get with 0.57
00:13:17.300 the program or he'll give Israel the green light to wipe them out finally. So Trump wants Syria to be 0.97
00:13:23.920 a normal kind of country again. Now, I'm not thrilled with Syria's leader, who's a former 1.00
00:13:28.640 Al-Qaeda terrorist. But if he agrees to certain limits about not becoming a hostile regime and not
00:13:34.520 becoming a terrorist regime, and hopefully if he protects the small Christian minority there, 1.00
00:13:39.600 Trump will reward Syria and bring it back into the community of nations, which will be a hell of a 1.00
00:13:44.780 trick given that Russia, too, still has military bases in that same country. Do you think Syria can 1.00
00:13:50.800 be fixed? Well, I'm a skeptic. It's sort of halfway between the absolute hopeless country of Afghanistan 1.00
00:13:59.060 and a Western-ish, progressive-ish country like Iran. I don't know. I'm a skeptic, but Trump thinks it
00:14:07.420 can be fixed. But incredibly, 1.4 million Syrian refugees think it can be fixed. Look at this story 1.00
00:14:16.180 by the UN itself. Let me read a headline. Geneva. Some 400,000 Syrians have returned from neighboring
00:14:23.600 countries since the fall of the Assad regime on 8th of December, 2024, according to estimates by
00:14:29.040 UNHCR, the UN Refugee Agency. During the same period, more than a million internally displaced
00:14:36.280 people within Syria have also returned, bringing the total number of Syrians who've gone home
00:14:41.600 to over 1.4 million. Wow. So they're coming home. They're not worried about war anymore. 1.4 million.
00:14:51.020 And look at this in the same article. In January, UNHCR launched an operational framework to help
00:14:57.420 1.5 million refugees and 2 million internally displaced persons return home in 2025 alone.
00:15:06.820 3.5 million people in this year alone. Millions of Syrians believe that that country is stable enough
00:15:16.260 that they are going home to their homes, which is great. It's great for them. It's great for Syria. 0.89
00:15:27.160 And holy smokes, is it great for us because Syria is safe now or safe enough. So people aren't fleeing
00:15:34.820 from danger anymore, are they? So we don't have to take Syrian refugees into Canada anymore, do we? 1.00
00:15:43.220 Like that refugee Ibrahim Ali that Trudeau brought over. He was a rapist who raped and murdered a 13-year-old 0.56
00:15:52.420 Chinese-Canadian girl in Vancouver a few years ago. Trudeau brought in unvetted, military-aged, 1.00
00:15:59.140 single-migrant men to our country from places where uncovered women are treated as fair game for rape
00:16:05.420 and worse. Okay, good news. They can all go home. And I, for one, think we should give them a free
00:16:12.380 plane ticket to do so and maybe even buy them, I don't know, a matching set of luggage or something.
00:16:16.980 Of course, we need to close the door first. It doesn't make sense to pay people to go back to Syria 0.98
00:16:21.860 for a vacation if they're just going to come back in. We got to close the door. But Canada is falling
00:16:28.180 apart because of mass immigration. So is the UK. So is Ireland. America was too, but Trump stopped
00:16:33.700 that. And he's showing the way by closing its borders and engaging in deportations. And now he's
00:16:38.740 using the word re-migration. So are Scandinavian countries who realize they'll actually save billions 0.64
00:16:45.460 of dollars by paying these ill-suited migrants to leave. Maybe we should too. Stay with us for more. 1.00
00:16:58.180 You know, censorship is on the march around the world. There was a victory against censorship
00:17:09.300 in Australia. Our friend Billboard Chris won a battle against that country's e-safety commissioner
00:17:15.860 for a tweet talking about transgenderism. It was a win and a much needed one, but the forces of 1.00
00:17:21.540 censorship are on the march. I keep an eye on my friends in Ireland. And the European Union is
00:17:26.980 demanding that they sign on to a Europe-wide social media censorship regulation. And their
00:17:34.900 prime minister, or Tayshok, as he's called in Gaelic, is saying he would be interested in doing so. Now,
00:17:41.060 we're lucky that here in Canada we are sort of following under the protective umbrella of our
00:17:46.820 First Amendment friends to the South, because otherwise you just know Mark Carney would be
00:17:51.780 censoring like a Trudeau. In fact, you've heard me tell you that the number one priority assigned to
00:17:57.940 the Heritage Department is to re-enact the Online Harms Bill, so-called C-63 in the last parliament.
00:18:06.100 I am worried, but let me read you a headline and then let's go to the number one expert on the subject.
00:18:10.420 This is a story in the Manchester Guardian. UN expert. Oh, you know it's going to be good.
00:18:18.580 UN expert urges criminalizing fossil fuel disinformation, banning lobbying.
00:18:28.900 Rapporteur calls for defossilization of economies and urgent reparations
00:18:35.940 to avert catastrophic rights and climate harms. Isn't that something? Let me just read to you the
00:18:41.220 first sentence and then we'll go to Mark Morano of Climate Depot. A leading UN expert is calling for
00:18:47.780 criminal penalties against those peddling disinformation about the climate crisis and a
00:18:54.100 total ban on fossil fuel industry lobbying and advertising as part of a radical shakeup to
00:19:00.900 to safeguard human rights and curtail planetary catastrophe. Hey folks, to safeguard your human
00:19:07.780 rights, we need to take away your human rights. Okay, give me one more sentence and then we'll go 0.98
00:19:13.060 to Mark. Elisa Morgera, who sounds like a very pleasant person, the UN special rapporteur on human
00:19:20.180 rights and climate change, who presents her damning new report to the General Assembly in Geneva on Monday,
00:19:26.100 argues that the U.S., U.K., Canada, Australia, and other wealthy fossil fuel nations are legally obliged
00:19:32.340 under international law to fully phase out oil, gas, and coal by 2030 and compensate communities
00:19:38.500 for harm's cause. Gee, I didn't see that coming. Well, you know, I really do want to read you the
00:19:42.820 whole thing because each line is crazier than the next, but I want to bring in the man who brought
00:19:46.900 this to my attention. He's our friend. He's the boss of ClimateDepot.com. By the way, ClimateDepot.com,
00:19:52.900 I think it's fair to say, is the most up-to-date, most comprehensive website for
00:19:59.060 any of these climate battles. And Mark has been doing this for more than 20 years.
00:20:03.540 I really think he is the number one expert in the United States, and I'm always grateful when
00:20:08.260 he finds time to join us. So joining us now via Skype is our buddy, Mark Moreno. Mark,
00:20:13.060 this gets crazier and crazier. Of course they want cash, but I think the funniest part is that
00:20:19.220 to save human rights, they've got to end our free speech. Yes. And if you remember the background to
00:20:25.300 this, well, first of all, decades of background, you had the corporate media colluding with the
00:20:30.260 United Nations, with the climate activists, with academia. You're comparing anyone whose dissents,
00:20:36.020 they called them climate deniers, they compared them to Holocaust deniers. In my book,
00:20:39.940 Politically Incorrect Guide to Climate Change, I had a whole chapter, a section,
00:20:43.300 on all of the dozens of examples of mainstream reporters from the Boston Globe to CBS News,
00:20:49.780 on down the line, comparing climate skeptics to Holocaust deniers. So they first wanted to
00:20:54.100 intimidate you into silence. When that doesn't work, we know that about two years ago, the UN
00:21:02.260 climate information chief said that they partnered with Google in order to essentially
00:21:08.340 redirect everyone to only UN-approved scientific claims. So they're working with big tech to
00:21:14.660 manipulate information flow. Now you have this lady, Elisa Morguero, and I love this report. 0.95
00:21:21.060 I love the panel, the International Panel on the Information Environment, IPAI is what they call it.
00:21:26.260 Just another bureaucratic arm of the UN, cranking out these reports. Now, how are we going to argue with
00:21:32.660 this, Ezra? They systematically reviewed 300 studies to come up with the conclusion that essentially
00:21:39.940 that there's, quote, bad actors out there amplifying disinformation and misinformation,
00:21:44.980 and we need to be criminally prosecuted. It's interesting because they actually quote a University
00:21:50.020 of Copenhagen professor, a guy named Klaus Jensen, who says misinformation is a major problem.
00:21:55.940 He led this IPAI report, the UN bureaucracy. I just wanted to read you the quote because it's so profound.
00:22:00.740 They always tell you what they're doing. If we don't have the right information available,
00:22:05.460 how are we going to vote for the right causes in politicians? And how are politicians going to
00:22:10.660 translate the claims and evidence made by the UN into necessary action? Unfortunately, the bad actors
00:22:17.300 are still very active and they're probably have the upper hand now. Now you and I are considered the
00:22:23.060 bad actors. They're literally saying we can't allow free speech because people might vote the wrong way.
00:22:29.060 That is officially sanctioned, stamped, you know, information and messaging coming from the United
00:22:34.820 Nations. I absolutely believe it. And just before we turn on the cameras, we were having some banter
00:22:39.940 and you reminded me that this is similar to the censorship guidelines brought in during the COVID
00:22:45.300 crisis. We can't let you hear from alternative views. And by the way, the number one person that
00:22:50.660 they wanted to censor back then was Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who is now the head of health care in the Trump
00:22:57.300 administration. So it's very political what's going on here. And, you know, the old saying,
00:23:03.460 let truth and falsehood grapple. You know, I mean, truth wins. Sometimes it takes a while for truth to win.
00:23:11.220 Sometimes it's still lacing up its boots by the time the lie is run around the world.
00:23:15.860 But in the long term, the answer to bad facts is good facts. And who are these folks to censor us
00:23:22.020 anyways? What's incredible is they're basically saying we want to win the argument and we want
00:23:27.700 to stop the other side from even being allowed to argue that that's really they're confessing that
00:23:33.940 the only way they can win is if they if the other guys are silenced.
00:23:38.980 Yes. And that has been going on in the climate. It's funny. You mentioned the COVID. Are we talking
00:23:43.700 about it? Because everything I learned in the COVID debate, I'd already learned in the climate
00:23:49.620 debate a decade earlier. It was the same exact template. And this goes back, you know, you could
00:23:54.340 say Al Gore's movie really was when they just started cracking down. But it really didn't happen until
00:24:00.020 Donald Trump was the Republican nominee 2016, because the media said we can never allow
00:24:06.420 a populist movement like Donald Trump to ever gain power again. We've got to squelch it.
00:24:10.660 And that's when everything, all the controls came down, not only the mainstream media, but all the
00:24:15.220 social media. That's when we had the deep state and the national security and Intel agencies embedded
00:24:21.940 in things like Twitter. And then we found this out from the Twitter files and Facebook, how they were
00:24:26.100 told they had to come in. It's the same template. But we're what we're talking about today. And it's
00:24:31.140 fascinating to see how open and honest the U.N. is saying this is what we need to do. This is what
00:24:36.020 we are doing. This is what our report showed. We need to start censoring the bad actors and
00:24:40.420 misinformation. Otherwise, people won't vote. Why are they saying all this? Because the COP30
00:24:46.660 U.N. summit is coming up and it's perhaps the most unanticipated dreaded U.N. summit by climate
00:24:53.300 activists in the history of climate summits, because as of right now, not even two dozen
00:24:58.260 countries out of over 200 have even made pledges, let alone kept pledges in line with the U.N. Paris
00:25:05.860 climate agreement net zero goals. So they're watching the entire collapse of their movement
00:25:11.780 and they're freaking out. They're watching the election results in Canada. I'm sorry,
00:25:15.700 not Canada, but Germany, throughout Europe, the EU. They're even watching Canada with Mark Carney,
00:25:20.820 even though he didn't repeal the carbon tax. He zeroed it down under, I guess, political pressure.
00:25:26.260 I'm not a Canadian, but I don't know the detail ins and outs of that. But even that was
00:25:30.820 somewhat significant. And so the U.N. is looking at this. They're watching Bolsonaro. I'm sorry,
00:25:35.380 not Bolsonaro, but Malay and Argentina pulled the whole delegation from the COP29. France didn't even
00:25:44.020 send their environmental team to it. They've said oil was a gift from God. This is the first time in my
00:25:49.620 lifetime, Ezra, that there's going to be no official U.N. U.S. delegation to COP30 in Belém,
00:25:55.460 Brazil, this November. I'm thinking of appointing myself, by the way, the unofficial U.S. ambassador.
00:26:00.980 If I can get away with it, maybe I'll get special access and they'll let me have a speech or something.
00:26:04.820 I don't know. Isn't that amazing? Hey, I just want to read one more line from this story. And thank
00:26:12.020 you for bringing it to our attention. And then it rang a bell in my mind. And I want to read
00:26:18.020 something to you that I think might come as a surprise to you because I
00:26:21.620 barely noticed it. And shame on me for missing it, but your story brought it back to mine. Let me
00:26:25.780 quote just one more line from this Guardian story and then let me pivot a bit. So this is one of the
00:26:32.100 things that this U.N. expert wants to do. According to the Guardian, states must ban fossil fuel ads and
00:26:42.500 lobbying, criminalize greenwashing misinformation and misrepresentation by the fossil fuel industry,
00:26:50.980 media and advertising firms and enforce harsh penalties for attacks on climate advocates
00:26:58.420 who are facing a rise in malicious lawsuits, online harassment and physical violence. Now,
00:27:02.980 of course, we're against physical violence, including that practice by Greenpeace. That's sort
00:27:07.700 of I've never seen any anti-Greenpeace violence. I've seen a lot of Greenpeace violence, including
00:27:12.900 from Stephen Gilbeau in Carney's cabinet. But basically, they're saying you're not allowed to
00:27:18.500 criticize. You're not allowed to you're not allowed to criticize climate and you're not allowed to even
00:27:23.460 advocate for yourself. And this would limit. For example, in Canada, there's some fuels that they
00:27:29.460 say are cleaner and they say, well, we have this much ethanol or we have like this much octane. Like,
00:27:34.820 there are some fuels that are cleaner by certain definitions. You're not allowed to say that.
00:27:40.340 And here's the shock, Mark. And here's when I saw this story, I thought, hang on, that happened in
00:27:46.420 Canada. Let me pull up a video clip. Here is a short speech, a statement rather, by one of the most
00:27:54.260 radical MPs in Canada. He's a socialist, Charlie Angus. Take a listen to this. This was when he was
00:28:00.980 introducing what's called a private member's bill in Canada, Mark. Now, private member's bills
00:28:05.460 are what they sound like. It's a backbench MP. He can write it, but it has very little chance of
00:28:10.180 succeeding unless it's officially backed by the government. It's really more a press release
00:28:14.900 than anything. But just watch for a minute and then I'm going to tell you the shocking news.
00:28:18.740 So this is Charlie Angus, a socialist MP. Take a look.
00:28:22.660 Big Oil has always relied on the Big Tobacco playbook of delay and disinformation. And so,
00:28:29.540 to tackle this immense threat to human health, we need to use many of the strategies that finally
00:28:35.060 took down Big Tobacco. In 1997, the Canadian Parliament banned advertising from Big Tobacco
00:28:42.020 because of the clear threat to human health. This is why I'm so proud to stand here today
00:28:47.700 with representatives of Canada's medical community to state that the time has come to ban all oil and
00:28:55.060 gas advertising. The Big Tobacco moment has finally arrived for Big Oil. Bill C-372 will,
00:29:04.180 quote, provide a legislative response to a national public health and environmental problem of
00:29:08.900 substantial and pressing concerns. The bill will make it illegal for Big Oil and Gas Lobby
00:29:15.060 or their front groups or paid influencers to falsely promote the burning of fossil fuels
00:29:21.140 as a benefit to the public. The legislation will make it illegal to falsely claim that the use of
00:29:27.780 one fossil fuel product is somehow better than another fossil fuel product in improving the environment.
00:29:35.140 To claim that there are clean fossil fuels is like saying there are safe cigarettes. We know that is
00:29:40.420 simply not true. So that bill did not move forward. That was not passed in a law.
00:29:46.100 Yeah, I just can't believe he would say that fossil fuels do not benefit human society. That'll be banned.
00:29:53.540 Eighty percent of global energy comes from fossil fuels. The entire modern era is based on fossil fuels.
00:29:58.580 He wouldn't even have a camera and a microphone without fossil fuels. The whole thing is absurd.
00:30:02.260 Well, you couldn't live in snowy Canada, really, without fossil fuels. But here's the crazy thing.
00:30:07.540 And Mark, I want to confess, I'm embarrassed that I haven't done more journalism on this. That bill died,
00:30:12.900 and I knew it would. But the Liberal government under Justin Trudeau, before he was deposed,
00:30:18.420 they took the ideas of that man and they embedded it, believe it or not, in another bill called C-59,
00:30:25.300 a Competition Act bill which became law almost exactly a year ago, June 20, 2024. So we're laughing at how
00:30:39.060 kooky this Guardian story is and that UN extremist and that private members bill. It's law. Let me read
00:30:45.460 to you a little bit from the Chamber of Commerce, the Canadian Chamber of Commerce, which like the
00:30:50.340 US Chamber of Commerce is pretty centrist, pretty moderate. Let me just read a little bit from this
00:30:55.620 and then I'm going to throw it back to you because I know when you pitched this story, when you suggested
00:31:00.580 this story to our producer, he was shocked, you were shocked, but I want to let you know that dark
00:31:05.460 day has arrived in Canada. Let me read from the Chamber of Commerce. So by the way, this became
00:31:11.460 law June 20 last year. Instead of applying only to products, the amendment applies broadly to anybody
00:31:17.620 making representation about a business or business activity that relates to the environment. It is
00:31:22.820 not limited to protecting consumers from false advertising in the traditional sense. It covers
00:31:28.660 what a company or its employees or representatives can say to investors, financial institutions, stakeholders,
00:31:33.780 business partners, even regulators and governments. It applies to businesses that don't offer services
00:31:39.220 or public products to the public and includes industry and business associations as well as
00:31:44.100 advocates. Let me just read one or two more lines. This is the crazy part, the reverse onus mark.
00:31:51.380 The new section regulates and impacts almost every sector of the Canadian economy under the late
00:31:58.020 stage amendment. Environmental representations do not even have to be false or materially misleading to be
00:32:06.580 actionable. A communication can be true, but illegal, unless substantiated in accordance with an undefined
00:32:15.140 quote, internationally recognized methodology. It goes on in that vein. And oh, by the way, penalties of
00:32:24.100 up to $10 million for the first offense. So what's happened? So you can't, you know, you can't talk about how
00:32:32.340 this coal has less emissions than that coal or lower sulfur or how natural gas has lower carbon emissions
00:32:40.260 and coal. If you care about that sort of thing, you can't do basic business. There's a reverse onus.
00:32:46.180 The presumption is you're lying. Fines are $10 million. That has been the law in Canada for a year mark.
00:32:54.740 Have they started enforcing it? Because that's just incredible. From the lips of the U.N. to the legislative
00:33:03.220 books in Canada. I'm not aware of that. That is incredible. It doesn't even have to be materially false and
00:33:10.740 they can still punish you and criminalize it. How do you fight that in Canada? And the big question is, have they
00:33:18.340 started enforcing that? I mean, that's an incredible law. And of course, this would apply to American companies
00:33:24.340 operating in Canada. And there's in our Canadian oil patch, there's a lot of us companies.
00:33:28.420 Mark, you and I first met almost 20 years ago when I set up something called ethical oil based on my
00:33:36.980 book of the same title. And I was at Sun News Network. So maybe not quite 20 years ago, the book
00:33:41.540 did really well. And then we set up something called the ethical oil Institute. And it was a little
00:33:45.620 think tank that I ran for a few years. Then they got really busy with rebel news. And, um,
00:33:50.820 you know, instead of just talking about oil, talked about everything.
00:33:55.940 I think we need to revive ethical oil.org, the ethical oil Institute, because I think we've got to
00:34:05.060 live truly and freely and speak positively about Canada's oil and gas industry.
00:34:12.020 And if these folks want to charge us with a crime, I think that we need to be the,
00:34:19.300 the test case because I literally won. I, you know, I don't win a lot of prizes out there,
00:34:25.060 especially from a mainstream media jury, but Mark, I don't know if you know, but my book ethical
00:34:29.780 oil actually won the Canadian business book of the year. So it's not just me saying rah, rah, the book
00:34:34.740 was, it was one of the most valuable things I think I ever did. And now that that is, that book would be
00:34:40.820 a crime today. I'd about to say that book would be illegal and you'd be prosecuted under, uh, you
00:34:45.940 know, speech crimes today. Yeah. You know, I think I got to lean into it. I, I do to give myself an
00:34:52.660 excuse. It's been an extremely busy year politically. There's a ton going on. There was an election.
00:34:58.900 So maybe I didn't focus on this as much as I should, but I, I feel, uh, rebuked by my own lack
00:35:05.540 of action here. And I feel, feel compelled to lean into it. And I can understand why an oil company
00:35:11.380 or an oil advocacy group wouldn't look at, like a mainstream one wouldn't want to run afoul of the
00:35:17.700 law. I get it. They want to, you know, maintain a certain reputation and be on the right side of the
00:35:22.980 lie. I totally get it. But I, I have no need to, to indulge in false courtesies or exquisite etiquette.
00:35:32.340 I'm a guy who believes in free speech. And I feel like going out there and telling the truth
00:35:36.660 about Canada's oil patch and to hell with socialist Charlie Angus or this bill.
00:35:42.180 Absolutely. And that's what people need to do. It's got to be open defiance of these kind of laws.
00:35:46.020 We saw that in COVID. I remember in Australia, if you even put a Facebook like on a post about a COVID
00:35:52.580 lockdown protest, police would visit your house. I mean, this was the most intrusive. And this was all
00:35:58.580 the precedents that was particularly broken in the West during the COVID lockdown. It was almost
00:36:03.140 unprecedented what occurred on a mass scale in once free Western nations. And the climate activists
00:36:09.220 have been trying to piggyback. Now, what the UN is trying to do, what's happened in Canada is
00:36:13.700 probably unlikely to succeed right now in the US. We've got, we're going very far the other direction.
00:36:18.980 Just today, when it comes to like identity politics, transgender, Donald Trump, by withholding funds
00:36:25.060 to the University of Pennsylvania has now Leah Thomas, the male swimmer who won all the female
00:36:30.020 records is now being officially stripped of all the titles. So that's what you need. You just need
00:36:35.460 actual open defiance. I'm a big believer in the narrative. And I think your ethical oil is exactly
00:36:40.980 right. It's like blood diamonds was a great narrative. Are you going to buy diamonds like that? We need to
00:36:45.940 call these, you know, blood EVs, blood energy, ethical oil. It's exactly the same concept. You really want
00:36:53.380 energy that China has a monopoly on with, you know, Uyghurs in concentration camps or underage 1.00
00:36:59.620 kids in Chinese cobalt mines in Africa. And it's that idea that homegrown energy is the best.
00:37:06.820 This is the mess that, you know, by, this is the mess that both Republicans, Democrats,
00:37:13.300 liberal conservatives have gotten us into up until Donald Trump globally. They've all,
00:37:17.860 because the Republicans always bought into the, I don't want to curse on air,
00:37:22.180 but the bull bleep rhetoric of this narrative on climate and the urgency and the, oh yeah,
00:37:28.100 we would, of course it's a problem, but let's just go a little slower. No, it's better to have
00:37:32.580 Donald Trump and his EPA director calling it a cult and a hoax and a religion right to their face.
00:37:38.420 So much so that career bureaucrats now at the US EPA are say, are writing a letter of dissent
00:37:45.380 because they're calling climate change a religion and they're not taking it seriously.
00:37:49.060 You've got to upend the table. And I, and I fully support what you're trying to do and fighting
00:37:54.420 that, especially with your, your premise of ethical oil is just phenomenal.
00:37:58.100 You know, I think it's up to us to do it. I have the background. I mean, I haven't really
00:38:02.900 leaned into the ethical oil battle in a while, although it's always on my mind and we love
00:38:07.220 talking to you, but rebel news is, I think, you know, from time to time, we go to court and fight
00:38:11.540 for free speech. And this is a confluence of both of those. This is not just defending oil and gas,
00:38:16.660 which is Canada's leading industry. It's defending our freedom of speech. And I, and I think that
00:38:23.380 like, really, I can't think of any group that overlaps free speech and oil more than rebel
00:38:28.580 news. We love going to court. We love fighting test cases. We've got some good lawyers.
00:38:33.300 Yeah. It's time to go after this specific law. Yes. I mean, that sounds, this sounds like it's ripe
00:38:37.860 to expose. Yeah. And we've got good lawyers we've worked with over the years. Mark, I got to tell you,
00:38:42.260 I sort of forgot about this because the oil industry has not made a fuss about it. Maybe
00:38:48.180 because they're afraid that fuss itself might be illegal. Mark, you lit a fire under me. I'm
00:38:54.020 going to stay in touch with you on it. By the way, I just emailed you this Chamber of Commerce website
00:38:58.340 that I referred to. You may wish to look into this further yourself for your American viewers. They
00:39:03.540 might be shocked because this applies to US companies operating in Canada too, if I'm not mistaken.
00:39:08.500 Wow. Okay. I didn't know anything about it. So I look forward to seeing that.
00:39:12.420 I just wanted to, the only thing I wanted to mention is the reason the UN and this whole idea
00:39:17.940 of suppressing free speech. On my website, I found a recent study by the United Nations,
00:39:24.660 climate crisis driving surge in gender-based violence. And they're worried about, quote,
00:39:30.980 femicide during heat waves, which is the killing of females. Every degree rise in temperature is
00:39:36.500 associated with a 4.7 increase in intimate partner violence. IPV is what they call it.
00:39:42.660 This is the kind of absolute drivel and crap coming from the United Nations that if you oppose,
00:39:48.420 you will be censored and criminally prosecuted. It's insane. And this is the next battle. And I think
00:39:54.260 you're exactly on the forefront of it. Ethical oil and going after this is a test case in Canada,
00:39:58.900 because this is the kind of stuff that we need to go after completely in the Trumpian way as well,
00:40:05.460 and the Ezra way where you just flip the narrative on them. And that's what's missing. That's what's
00:40:10.420 been missing in global politics for these decades. That's the most effective weapon, flipping the
00:40:16.180 narrative against these in terms of public perception and public debate, flipping the narrative in terms of
00:40:24.100 the entire argument on climate change. And that's how we did it on COVID, I believe, with COVID lockdowns.
00:40:29.060 By fomenting as much as we could resistance to that, it overturned it. And I think that ushered
00:40:35.700 in this era of Argentina and Donald Trump because they overstepped the bounds in COVID.
00:40:40.660 Yeah. Wow. Well, you've lit a fire under me. That's for sure. I'm excited about this.
00:40:45.220 You know, sometimes you look around and say, who's going to save us? Well, you got to step up
00:40:49.060 and fighting for freedom. You know, that's our motto, Mark. I don't know if you know,
00:40:51.700 but at the end of every single show, that's how I close the show. I say,
00:40:55.140 keep fighting for freedom. And you got to because it naturally atrophies and it just shrinks. And I
00:41:03.780 know it's tiring fighting for freedom because it's never done. And you have a win, sure,
00:41:09.220 catch your breath, but you got to get back in there. In Canada, we've got problems because Mark
00:41:13.620 Carney is now our prime minister and he's doing all sorts of weird things. And it's our job to fight.
00:41:19.540 You know, I was a, go ahead. Well, I was going to say,
00:41:22.260 just as an American, I will say just off the bat that Trudeau was basically a caricature,
00:41:29.300 easy to hate, arrogance, came off pretty much most American conservatives, even centrist,
00:41:34.660 hate him. Carney comes off as a competent, normal leader. I don't know. I mean, I know he's not
00:41:39.380 in terms of he's got a serious agenda. He's the puppet master. He's not a puppet like Trudeau. He's
00:41:43.860 the actual guy pulling the strings, but he is a brilliant just public image. He presents to the
00:41:49.300 world. I got to say that he's very effective messenger of saying he's just a mainstream,
00:41:56.980 normal leader in Canada. That's the perception here in the US. Even Trump has said nice things
00:42:00.980 about him. Yeah. And that's why he won. And which was demoralizing to the freedom oriented
00:42:07.780 Canadians. Well, it didn't help that Trump wanted to make you the 51st state and had a rise in
00:42:11.860 nationalism, right? Trump's one of Trump's bigger mistakes. Yeah. Well, we'll keep at it up here,
00:42:16.740 Mark. Great to catch up with you. I really appreciate this conversation. Thank you for
00:42:20.900 your encouragement. And I got to come up with a plan now. All right. Good luck. I'm happy to help
00:42:27.060 in any way. This is where the rubber meets the road. Congratulations. Right on. Take care,
00:42:31.380 my friend. And you keep up the work down there. All right. Appreciate it. There you have it, Mark Morano.
00:42:35.460 Like I say, if you haven't been visiting climatedepot.com, you're doing it wrong. It's such a great site.
00:42:40.660 It sort of in a way reminds me of the old Drudge Report and that it finds all the interesting
00:42:45.460 stories from around the world. And it's like a briefing. And it's, you know, Mark's been doing
00:42:50.900 it for probably 20 years and it shows. So he's the best at it. Hey, keep with us more after these,
00:42:56.420 after this short break.
00:43:09.060 Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me on trade negotiations with the states.
00:43:12.340 Humpty Dumpty, I think that might be a pen name, says,
00:43:16.260 Kevin O'Leary is 100% correct. There should be no tariffs on either side. Why do they call it free
00:43:21.780 trade if it's anything but? Well, Trump says he uses tariffs as a weapon to concentrate the mind
00:43:30.020 of the other side. And we know that it certainly does that. I really do think that Trump would
00:43:35.220 accept a tariff-free relationship with Canada if we remove some of the non-tariff irritants,
00:43:40.740 like our dairy cartel, like limits on US banks or US cell phones up here. And it was a pretty dumb
00:43:46.900 move by Mark Carney to try and enforce a multi-billion dollar social media tax right in the
00:43:52.420 middle of trade negotiations. That seems sort of dumb. On a Surrey terror attack, which has not got
00:43:58.740 a lot of coverage in the mainstream media, Larry Williams says the Ministry of Truth did not deem
00:44:03.220 this worthy of broadcasting. Yeah, I mean, an ISIS attack in Vancouver. And have you heard about it?
00:44:10.020 On my monologue about Israel and America and Israel wars,
00:44:13.700 Erin Licinius says the US should fight for itself. If some other nation is aligned with its interests,
00:44:20.180 then it might support them, but only if the interests of the US are considered first.
00:44:24.980 Well, the US has signed a treaty with a couple dozen other countries called NATO. An article
00:44:29.540 five of NATO says an attack against one is tantamount to an attack on all. So the US
00:44:35.540 is sort of a mutual defense pact. That's one of the things it was that Vladimir Putin complained about
00:44:41.620 is that it was surrounded by NATO right up in its grill. There was no buffer zone with Ukraine anymore.
00:44:50.660 Israel does not have the same defense pact with the United States. It just doesn't.
00:44:54.420 And I guess my point is, America goes to war for a lot of reasons and a lot of times. And it's not
00:45:02.740 always called a full scale war. Sending six B-2 bombers to take out Iranian nukes does not count as a war.
00:45:10.340 If that were the case, America's at war every single day around the world. I guess what I was trying to do in
00:45:14.900 my monologue was to show that Israel gets $3 billion a year from the US for military aid. Yes, it's true. 0.96
00:45:21.860 10% of its military budget. It's still a meaningful amount, but compared to the hundreds of billions
00:45:28.020 of dollars that the US spends on bases all around the world, including a dozen in the Arab world
00:45:33.380 and throughout Europe, like seriously, super rich Germany, Japan, UK, Italy, they get US military bases.
00:45:39.940 I'm willing to take criticism of US adventurism overseas. But if you're going to point out
00:45:45.940 Israel's $3 billion a year from America, don't you think you ought to point out the quarter trillion 0.71
00:45:50.820 dollars a year the US spends in other countries too? Just my thoughts. That's our show for the day.
00:45:56.820 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,
00:46:00.580 goodnight, and keep fighting for freedom.