EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trump's strongman tact dashes Trudeau's hopes for a trade war
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It really happened. Donald Trump put massive tariffs on Canada on February 1st, and then he took them off on February 3rd. What does it all mean? What did it reveal about our leaders? We ll take you through it today and read you some of the statements by Trump and others.
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Hello, my friends. It really happened. Donald Trump put massive tariffs on Canada on February
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1st, and then he took them off on February 3rd. I don't even think they kicked in. What does it
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all mean? What did it reveal about our leaders? We'll take you through it today and read you some
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Tonight, Donald Trump imposes tariffs on Canada and Mexico, but just for a couple of days.
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Are we out of the woods yet? It's February 3rd, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Well, it all started in November. A demand for strong borders against drugs and migrants
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or else. Donald Trump, during his transition period, got straight to work, demanding that
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Canada and Mexico fix a problem by the time Trump took office on Inauguration Day, January 20th.
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He said that the or else would be massive tariffs, 25%. Just to be clear what a tariff is,
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it's a special import tax paid by the importer. So Canada would sell oil to the United States,
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would sell automobiles. Those are, in fact, our two largest exports, and they would be sold at a
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certain price. But when they came into America, the buyer would have to spend 25% more on a tariff.
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That would likely price both of those things and anything else out of the market.
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Well, Justin Trudeau thought he would get right on it and flew down to Mar-a-Lago,
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Trump's unofficial White House in Florida, for an ill-fated meeting. It sounded like Donald Trump
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made a joke about the 51st state, and it sounded like Trudeau winced. And he revealed, apparently,
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according to people who were there, that tariffs would destroy the Canadian economy. Well, Donald Trump
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took that as a targeting exercise. You know how he is with nicknames. He knows that weak spot. And so
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for months, Donald Trump taunted Justin Trudeau about being the governor of the 51st state of Canada.
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Oh, it clearly rattled Trudeau and the entire political media establishment. Canadians are obsessed
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with Donald Trump, as are all people on planet Earth. But until then, the obsession was sort of
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from the cheap seats high up in the audience. We weren't actual players in the arena. Suddenly,
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Donald Trump was engaging with us. So Justin Trudeau declared a Team Canada approach. That's certainly
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what he called it. But it was anything but. He put together a crew of people with no Democratic
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mandate. Trudeau himself lacked a Democratic mandate, having just announced that he intends
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to resign on March 9th. He dissolved Parliament to avoid Democratic accountability. And he put together
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a Canada-U.S. Trade Council, which was purely political and had very little to do with trade.
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But here's just one example. Danielle Smith, the Premier of Alberta, the main oil pumping province,
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started shuttle diplomacy back and forth to Washington, D.C. almost every week. You might
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remember I bumped into her the day before the inauguration and we had a quick interview. Here's
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an excerpt from that. Is there anyone else working the rooms on behalf of Canada or is it just you and
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your team? I haven't seen any Canadians who are here in an official role from the federal government.
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I don't know if they will tomorrow. I'll be going to the Canadian embassy as the change to the
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inauguration has been moved indoors. We'll be watching the inauguration from the embassy and
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I'll be able to have more conversations there. But my view has always been, if you're going to be
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diplomatic, lead with diplomacy, lead with a relationship, lead with common interests, lead
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with talking about what the Americans benefit from their relationship with Canada. So I've taken a bit
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of a departure, I think, from our federal counterparts, but I think it's the right one. I think that this is
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going to be the way that we ensure that the relationship does not get damaged as the federal
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liberals are going through their inner party turmoil. That's the thing I find sort of stressing is that
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they're not taking a Canada first approach. They're taking a Liberal Party first approach.
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They're turning the Americans and the Trump administration in particular into the bad guys
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so that they can campaign against them for their own personal political benefit. And that is not good
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for the country. So we're putting the country first. We're putting the relationship first.
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And we hope that we end up with a positive outcome.
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She was going back and forth trying to make the case to Americans that it really didn't make sense
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to put an import tax or a tariff on oil because that oil went to American refineries to be turned
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into many products, including gasoline. The end product would just be 25% or 10% more expensive,
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whatever it would be. Why would that make sense when Canada is such a good supplier?
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Danielle Smith went in as a diplomat. She didn't go in to agitate or to exacerbate,
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but to explain and smooth over. She was the only one that was doing so. The others
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sought to turn this into a grand battle where they could demonstrate how virtuous they are.
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I mentioned a moment ago, the trade council that Justin Trudeau put together. Well, it includes
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Rachel Notley and her former campaign manager. That's the former NDP premier of Alberta who brought in
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the carbon tax and tried to kill off the industry itself. The person that Danielle Smith beat.
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Could you imagine that the representative for Alberta is the socialist, carbon taxing,
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Alberta-hating NDP premier who was a mortal enemy of Danielle Smith? Clearly,
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the whole purpose was to have the war. And that's what was so easy to discern so quickly.
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Most Canadian politicians wanted the or else to happen. Remember, Donald Trump said,
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I need the border sealed for illegal immigrants. I need the border sealed to illegal drugs or else
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I'll do these things. But it was very clear that while it might take a few billion dollars and a
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little bit of effort to seal that border, that all of these politicians actually wanted the brutal
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trade war that would possibly devastate the country. They wanted that for their own selfish reasons.
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Justin Trudeau himself to feel important and patriotic and to leave on a high note, perhaps,
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defending the country against the evil Trump, playing for his international fans, if there are any.
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David Eby, the hardcore left-wing pro-drug legalization premier of British Columbia.
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He actually, I think, probably is pro-fentanyl. In fact, I know he is. Their public health officer
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out there was proposing government-funded, government-distributed fentanyl. Just absolutely
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crazy. And in the case of Ontario's Doug Ford, he was opportunistic for his own reason. He's ahead
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in the polls and he wanted to lock that in by having a snap election, painting himself as a hero of
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Ontarians. But none of them actually went to Washington to try to solve the problem or try
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to soften the tariffs. They all actually wanted them to be as brutal as possible. Every one of
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the politicians I just listed would rather campaign against Donald Trump than against their actual
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opponent. And every one of them would like to mask their own economic mismanagement by blaming
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any disasters that the tariffs would cause. You know, for 10 years, Canada's establishment had
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Trump derangement syndrome. And it all just came out in the last few weeks. Look, tariffs aren't great.
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I'm not sure if a 10% oil tariff would have devastated the oil industry, because believe it or not,
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Canadian oil is often sold at below world market prices to America. And you might think,
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how is that even possible? Well, the answer is because the Liberals and the NDP have blocked
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pipelines to blue water. So Alberta can't actually export in any sizable amount to India or Korea or
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Japan or let alone China. We might have been able to had we had the Northern Gateway pipeline and the
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Canada, the Energy East pipeline that would have gone all the way to St. John, New Brunswick,
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where Canada's largest refinery is. Those were blocked. So the only people we could sell it to
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were the Americans. Recently, the Trans Mountain pipeline is open, but it's not a big game changer.
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We need much more pipelines. So we're selling it at a discount much of the time. So a 10% tariff
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might not be the end of the world, but it certainly would be a disaster for other things. And remember
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the point of a tariff. Of course, it's to raise money for the government. But Donald Trump is crystal
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clear. He wants to bring factories and industry home to America. And think about that if you're
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the second largest exporter of Canada, which is the auto sector. By far, the biggest and most valuable
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exports Canada have to the United States are oil and gas. But in second place, far back, but still in
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second place, is the auto industry. Donald Trump knows there are no votes for him in Ontario and Quebec.
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There's no electoral college votes for having a car factory in Windsor, Ontario. But if he were to
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bring those jobs back to Detroit and to places in Ohio, there absolutely would be jobs. And really,
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that's one of the things a tariff does is it makes exporters think, well, can I relocate within the
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country I'm selling to, to avoid the tariff? That said, the auto industry is pretty integrated on both
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sides of the border. That is, to build one vehicle, often different things are done on the Windsor or
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the Detroit side. Here's a clip of a senator from Michigan making that point to Trump's commerce
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secretary nominee saying, look, be careful with the auto industry because we actually do work in an
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integrated way with Canada. Here's that clip. I think I showed you this a week ago.
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As a senator from Michigan, I'm particularly focused on manufacturing. We know how to make things in
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Michigan. We, and I don't think you can be a great country if you don't actually make things. And
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that's what we do in my state. And I want to work with the administration to make sure we're growing
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that sector as well as creating good paying jobs that result from manufacturing. However, I am concerned
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that President Trump's plan to impose tariffs on, on Canada and Mexico before the rest of the world.
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In fact, it could be in a matter of days, is what we are hearing, could hurt our manufacturers who do
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considerable trade back and forth, as we discussed in the office. Michigan is the home of the two of the
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top three border crossings in North America. We're two of them. And a lot of that are auto parts that go
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back and forth. It's a highly integrated industry. And our auto companies are very concerned about what
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those, those tariffs might mean to cost, particularly to the cost of vehicles. Already, something we
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discussed, I'm concerned about the high cost of vehicles. Many families can't afford them now.
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And if tariffs are put in place that deal with that seamless trade that goes on with Canada,
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that that in the short run could definitely have an impact on prices and make cars even more
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unaffordable. I don't think that's something the American people want to see. And I'm afraid it would hurt
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consumers as well as also hurt those workers. So my question for you, sir, is talk me through how
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those tariffs would be implemented, what you're thinking will happen there, and how it's going to
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have an impact on prices, particularly in the short term. I know where you're going to go on the long
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term, but all this stuff takes time. And especially when it comes to manufacturing, it's not an industry
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that can turn on a dime. It's much more complicated, as I know you know.
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So the big tariff view is going to be studied. And the president launched that in an executive
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order where he asked the Commerce Department and the USTR to study the tariff model long term.
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The short term issue is illegal migration and worse, even still, fentanyl coming into this country
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and killing over 100,000 Americans. There's no war we could have that would kill 100,000 Americans.
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The president is focused on ending fentanyl coming into the country. You know that the labs in Canada
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are run by Mexican cartels. So this tariff model is simply to shut their borders with respect.
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Respect America. If we are your biggest trading partner, show us the respect. Shut your border
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and end fentanyl coming into this country. So it is not a tariff, per se. It is an action
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of domestic policy. Shut your border and stop allowing fentanyl into our country, killing our
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people. So this is a separate tariff to create action from Mexico and action from Canada. And
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as far as I know, they are acting swiftly. And if they execute it, there will be no tariff. And
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if they don't, then there will be. But it's an action oriented model. That's not the ordinary
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tariff. The ordinary tariffs need to be studied and examined. And that will start, as the EO said,
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in April. So I'm not sure if it makes a lot of sense to sack the auto industry with a 25% tariff,
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but it makes zero sense to do that on the oil and gas side. For the main reason is you can't move the
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oil sands to America. The oil sands can't say, wow, these tariffs are punitive. Let's get within
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the borders of the United States. We're free from the tariffs. You can't move the oil sands.
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And by the way, the companies developing the oil sands are either American companies or Canadian
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companies with lots of American shareholders. It just doesn't make sense. But you had this revival
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of Team Canada and sudden patriotism, and they were denouncing anyone who disagreed with them as
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traitors. They were literally calling Danielle Smith, the one woman trying to save things, calling
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her a traitor. Where was this Team Canada approach? Building pipelines, building tankers, or how about
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even free trade internally? And I was thinking, if you've ever been to the States and bought eggs or
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milk or cheese, you'll notice how much cheaper it is. It's about half price. Who put those tariffs on us
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to make us pay double for dairy and poultry? And by the way, if you've been anywhere other than Canada,
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you know that their dairy selection is so much better, whether it's yogurt or butter or whatever.
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Who was that dastardly person who put the tariffs on us for that? Was it Donald Trump? No.
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It was in our own government, who have national supply management. That's what they call it,
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where they make it illegal to produce milk or poultry or other things like that without the
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government's permission, without a license from the government. They call it supply management because
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of the law of supply and demand. They restrict the supply so the price goes up. That was done to us by
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our own government. But while I'm on a rant about that, who put the tariffs on us for the big banks
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with their awful service and their very low interest rate savings accounts and all their fees?
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Who said we can only do business with Canadian banks instead of American banks? Why can't there be
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American banks competing for our business here? And the worst of all are cell phones and the internet.
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I think you probably know, again, if you've ever traveled, that Canada's cell phone rates are
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literally amongst the highest in the world, especially for data. Who did that to us? Was that
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Donald Trump? No. Everything I've just listed in the last five minutes was done to us by ourselves.
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And Trump on February 1st brought in tariffs that would have hit the oil patch with 10% and everyone
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else with 25%. You know what's happening in just a couple of months on April 1st?
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Justin Trudeau is ratcheting up the carbon tax by how much? By 19%. Who did that to us? Who's
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devastating our economy? Trudeau and our closed socialist system. So yeah, Donald Trump is mean.
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He's mean to people who are mean to him first. I mentioned the nicknames and the 51st state
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cage rattling. Well, don't think that Justin Trudeau hasn't done his share of taunting
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Trump. In fact, far worse calling him a sexual assaulter, saying he is fomenting violence and
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insurrection. Here's Trudeau talking about January 6th.
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What we witnessed was an assault on democracy by violent rioters, incited by the current
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president and other politicians. As shocking, deeply disturbing, and frankly saddening as
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that event remains, we've also seen this week that democracy is resilient in America, our
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closest ally and neighbor. Violence has no place in our societies, and extremists will not succeed
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in overruling the will of the people. As Canadians, I think we've been all reflecting on our own
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country, something I spoke with the premiers about last night, about the fact that democracy
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is not automatic. It takes work every day. About what a real accomplishment it is to maintain a
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political system in which the losing side gracefully concedes, and in which rival political parties
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between elections work together for the common good. We have this in Canada because Canadians
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make it possible. Canadians expect their political leaders to protect our precious democracy by how
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we conduct ourselves. Chrystia Freeland attended an event that compared Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin,
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calling them both tyrants. And here's Chrystia Freeland rollicking in the fact that Trump doesn't like
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her, and she wants to emphasize that. Is that someone who wants to get a deal, or is that someone who
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wants to fight Trump to the detriment of the whole country? I want to let you in on a little secret.
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Donald Trump doesn't like me very much. Canada. We don't like their representative very much.
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I'm a tough negotiator. During the first Trump administration, I fought hard to protect Canadian
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jobs, the Canadian economy, and our way of life. And we won. I left Trudeau's cabinet because I know
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what we need to do to win that fight again. Donald Trump and his billionaire buddies think they can push
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us around. Trump thinks we're for sale, but he can take what isn't his. I'm not going to let him.
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Well, anyways, today was the day they pulled the trigger. Donald Trump pulled the trigger. 25% on
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everything except for energy, which was 10%. And there was a lot—actually, it happened on February 1st.
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Excuse me. It happened two days ago. Now, there was lots of Canada bashing online, including from
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conservatives that I think a lot of conservative Canadians typically like. Vice President J.D. Vance,
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Matt Gaetz, the former congressman and short-lived nominee for attorney general. And they were sort
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of mocking Canada and said, you had it coming. But I responded in a few tweets myself, some of which
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got quite a lot of views. How is it helping America to put a tariff on Canadian oil? I said that to Matt
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Gaetz. I said, if you're not going to buy your oil from Canada, who are you going to buy it from that's
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better? And by the way, if you're not buying our oil, who would you like us to sell it to?
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The obvious answer being China would love to get their paws on it. So from an America-first,
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America-centric, what's right for the little guy in America point of view, how does going after Canada
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help? I mean, going after any industry in Canada just raises the price in America. The answer might
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be well, you'll move those factories home. But like I say, by far the largest export to America is oil
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sands. You cannot move them. They will continue to pump oil. And if America doesn't buy it, who would
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America rather have their hands on that enormous strategic asset? And both J.D. Vance and Matt Gaetz and
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so many others show their disdain for Trudeau. Hey, me too. I'm not sure if there's anyone in Canada
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who's not an elected opposition politician who's expressed more antagonism towards Justin Trudeau as
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we have at Rebel News. I mean, we're suing them in so many ways. They sue us. We've published five books
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about Trudeau. We campaign against him with billboard trucks. It's a brutal fight. Believe me,
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I don't let a lot of people say they're bigger opponents of Trudeau than I am. But how does
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shooting at Canadian workers hurt Justin Trudeau? He's a gazillionaire. He's only got five more weeks
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on the job. That's my point. That J.D. Vance and Matt Gaetz and these tariffs were shooting at
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Trudeau, but they were hitting Canadian industries and more to the point, hitting American consumers,
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including who buys Canadian oil, American refineries. Now, in the end, after two days,
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there was a reprieve. And I don't think that tariffs actually took effect because it was over
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the weekend. Trump brought them in on February 1st, as he promised. And today on February 3rd,
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he undoes them. And I want to read to you his announcements that they were over.
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He had two phone calls today. And let me read them his readout. They're very similar.
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On Truth Social, Trump said, I just spoke with President Claudia Scheinbaum of Mexico. It was a
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very friendly conversation, wherein she agreed to immediately supply 10,000 Mexican soldiers on the
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border, separating Mexico and the United States. These soldiers will be specially designated to stop the
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flow of fentanyl and illegal migrants into our country. We further agreed to immediately pause
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the anticipated tariffs for a one-month period, during which we will have negotiations headed by
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Secretary of Treasury Board, Treasury Scott Besant, Secretary of Commerce
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Howard Lutnik, and high-level representatives of Mexico. I look forward to participating in these
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negotiations with President Scheinbaum as we attempt to achieve a deal between our two countries.
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So what has Trump got? He's got Mexico's attention. And if it's true, he'll have 10,000 Mexican soldiers
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dedicating to stop migrants before they get to the border. Now, I don't know how many were tasked
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with that mission beforehand, but I don't think they were quite as attentive as they're going to be in the
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next 30 days. Do you? And then at 3 p.m., Trump had his phone call with Justin Trudeau.
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And I'm not sure if you could say Canada caved, but let me read to you what Trudeau agreed to do. And you
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tell me if this is more Trudeau-y or more Trump-y. Canada has agreed to ensure we have a secure northern
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border and to finally end the deadly scourge of drugs like fentanyl that have been pouring into our
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country, killing hundreds of thousands of Americans while destroying their families and communities all
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across our country. Canada will implement their $1.3 billion plan. And as per Prime Minister Trudeau,
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we'll be, quote, reinforcing the border with new choppers, technology and personnel, enhanced
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coordination with our American partners, and increased resources to stop the flow of fentanyl.
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Nearly 10,000 frontline personnel are and will be working on protecting the border. In addition,
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Canada is making new commitments to appoint a fentanyl czar. We will list cartels as terrorists,
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ensure 24-7 eyes on the border, launch a Canada-U.S. joint strike force to combat organized crime,
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fentanyl, and money laundering. I have also signed a new intelligence directive on organized crime and
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fentanyl, and we will be backing you with $200 million. As president, it is my responsibility to
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ensure the safety of all Americans, and I am doing just that. I am very pleased with this
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initial outcome, and the tariffs announced on Saturday will be paused for a 30-day period to
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see whether or not a final economic deal with Canada can be structured. Fairness for all. Now,
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in some ways, you could say that Trudeau held the line. He had already announced $1.3 billion,
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which is not a lot of money for a border over the course of time. Agreeing to, in the future,
00:26:51.640
appoint a fentanyl czar. Okay, so who's that going to be? Just some, you know, token,
00:26:57.660
is that going to be Melanie Jolie? Like, what does it even mean? What powers will they have?
00:27:02.060
I think designating cartels as terrorists, but it's unclear if America's doing that on its own
00:27:07.180
or Canada, too. I think Trudeau can rightly say that Trump sort of blinked. But on the other hand,
00:27:15.060
I think Trump succeeded in getting Canada's full attention and making our country take border
00:27:21.280
control seriously for the first time. What it also did, and what I'm hopeful,
00:27:27.260
is that it woke Canadians up to the peril of having only one customer for our oil and gas.
00:27:32.540
The word monopoly is when there's only one person buying, sorry, one person selling and everyone has
00:27:39.900
to buy from them, so the price goes up. But when there's only one person buying, it's called a
00:27:44.140
monopsony. It's the opposite, and your price goes down, and you're beholden to them. If we had
00:27:50.240
pipelines and tankers that could sell our oil anywhere in the world, we would be in a much
00:27:55.200
better negotiating position. Now, Pierre Polly have released a video, and I think a lot of it's very
00:27:59.980
right, that we have to start by breaking down trade barriers within Canada. We have to build our industry
00:28:07.740
to trade with many places around the world. He put up an interesting video, and I think he's pretty
00:28:14.200
solid. He's careful he's not coming across as a Trump apologist. He's certainly not doing that.
00:28:19.140
That would allow the media to label him more than they are even now. But I think what we've all learned
00:28:25.320
over the last couple of months is we cannot leave diplomacy to the liberals. They're terrible
00:28:30.600
negotiators, and in the case of Donald Trump, they want to fail because they want to fight with
00:28:35.880
them. I think it's absolutely essential that Parliament resume as soon as possible. You know,
00:28:40.760
all these liberals saying everything's on the table. Absolutely everything's on the table,
00:28:44.580
which is generally code for they don't know what they're going to do. But the one thing that
00:28:48.520
certainly wasn't on the table for them was crack down on the border or have Parliament resume. And can
00:28:54.080
you really do some of these things like new spending and new projects without Parliament approving? And
00:28:58.680
I'm not so sure. I think what we've learned over the last couple of months is that we don't have
00:29:05.640
a serious country when it comes to foreign affairs and business affairs. I think a lot of the things
00:29:10.600
that Donald Trump has demanded from Canada, if you take Trump out of the picture, well, they're pretty
00:29:16.120
normal, reasonable things. America wants to do some banking in Canada. No one has to get a bank account
00:29:24.640
with Wells Fargo or Bank of America. But right now, no one even has the choice. Donald Trump, I think,
00:29:31.560
wants to get American banks in our country. And frankly, why would we object? No one has to bank
00:29:36.820
with them if they don't want to. But wouldn't it be nice to have some competition out there?
00:29:40.840
Same thing I would suggest with cell phone companies. I don't think Trump has mentioned
00:29:44.500
that. But wouldn't you like to have the ability to sign up to T-Mobile or Verizon or whatever they're
00:29:50.260
called? Again, you don't have to. If you love Bell, if you love Tellus and Rogers, and I don't think in
00:29:58.060
my entire life I've met anyone who does, keep it. So I think a lot of, and the military. I mean,
00:30:05.480
Donald Trump keeps talking about how much he's subsidizing Canada. And when he talks about a
00:30:10.140
trade surplus, that's not a subsidy. That's buying our oil rather than buying it from, let's say,
00:30:14.540
Saudi Arabia. But where he's correct is that Canada has had our military defense subsidized
00:30:20.420
by America. That is very true. Listen, it's good to be a nationalist and a patriot. And I consider
00:30:26.720
myself a nationalist and a patriot. That said, I don't think we actually needed to have a war with
00:30:32.400
Trump. I think we just had to do what was in our interest the whole time, seal the border to drugs and
00:30:37.140
bad guys. I think Trudeau and E.B. and even Doug Ford so relished the fight that they put Canada's
00:30:44.240
interests aside and followed their own. I think we've got to kick out all those political predators
00:30:49.840
who would have sold us out for their own reasons. Well, those are my thoughts. We'll see what's up
00:30:57.300
ahead. I'm going to have a surprise for you on this issue over the next few days. I think you'll be
00:31:01.560
a little bit surprised and delighted to hear it. I don't want to prejudge, but I'll have some news for
00:31:06.660
you on this file in the days ahead. Let me give you a little hint. Remember I wrote a book called
00:31:10.960
Ethical Oil. The Case for Canada's Oil Sands. Well, it's sort of related to that.
00:31:20.080
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patriots and support our independent journalism. Hey, for the rest of today's show, I want to
00:32:16.740
reintroduce you to Sammy Woodhouse. We just hired Sammy in the UK. As you know, we are interested in
00:32:23.540
things there. I sometimes fly over there, but it's time consuming and it's expensive to fly over to the UK
00:32:29.860
from Canada. And we've got very important things to cover here. So we've hired Sammy and a videographer
00:32:35.680
over there to cover the stories we're interested in, including freedom of speech, the case of Tommy
00:32:40.620
Robinson, and the rape gangs. As you may know, Sammy was one of the original victims and then the
00:32:48.580
whistleblowers of the Rotherham rape gang. And she led a movement to stand up for these girls.
00:32:56.120
They were all girls, very young, who were targeted by these grooming gangs. Sammy is a very brave soul.
00:33:04.380
And we're delighted to have her on our team. She's an activist and a journalist. And I think she's great.
00:33:11.600
This is her first video for us. Some streeters of what Brits think. Take a look.
00:33:18.240
It's a cold Saturday here in London, but I'm here to report on the Stop the Isolation event
00:33:27.980
for citizen journalist and activist Tommy Robinson. Now, Tommy was sentenced to 18 months in prison
00:33:34.880
and he's currently in solitary confinement for publishing his documentary, Silence, which
00:33:40.540
currently has around 157 million impressions on X. Now, the mainstream media probably won't attend
00:33:49.100
today. And if they do, they'll probably brand this crowd as racist or far-eyed. But I'm not the
00:33:54.360
mainstream media and I'm here to listen to what the people have to say. Now, you can go and support
00:33:59.720
my journalism and see more reports from today at TommyRobinson.com. I'm Sammy Woodhouse reporting
00:34:07.460
Kids are dying. Media and government are lying. Kids are dying. Media and government are lying.
00:34:17.940
We're here today because of Tommy's imprisonment and the imprisonment of every political prisoner
00:34:23.900
in the UK, just to make a stand, to make our voices heard and obviously to try and help
00:34:29.780
those that are in prison for things like doing the memes and, you know, political stuff.
00:34:34.860
Do you trust the mainstream media to tell us the truth about important subjects, you know,
00:34:41.620
Do I trust them? No. I don't think I ever put trust in mainstream media in the same sentence
00:34:46.100
usually. No. I think mainstream media will probably go away and become archaic because now that we
00:34:54.320
have X and people can speak and you can do reports on independent media, people will, all around the
00:35:01.700
world are waking up to realize that that's the truth. And mainstream media is bought and paid
00:35:05.320
for all around the world. And so, yeah, I hope they all go away.
00:35:09.200
So, Sammy, how are you, my darling? I'm all right, my love. Listen, you look great.
00:35:39.180
Absolutely fabulous. You're certainly dressed up for the day, aren't you? How's today been so far?
00:35:43.860
Do you know something? For me, it was important to come out here dressed as an English gentleman.
00:35:49.520
And I'm proud to be associated with Tommy Robinson dressed as an English gentleman.
00:35:56.180
And I can say I know him. He certainly is a gentleman.
00:35:58.660
I've just arrived at Downing Street and so are thousands of other patrons that I've taken to the
00:36:20.300
streets today in support of citizen journalist and activist Tommy Robinson and the UK's political
00:36:26.660
business. Now, as you can see behind me. Can everybody hear me at the back?
00:36:31.800
As you can see behind me. Yes, no, no, come on!
00:36:34.620
There's thousands here and the event has just started to take place.
00:36:38.480
So we're going to hear from the speakers and I'll speak to all of them.
00:36:46.880
And remember, there's going to be agitators amongst everybody.
00:36:51.820
Hey! You are sure that's been to happen, but we'll roll with it!
00:37:42.380
No, no, I didn't know Peter personally, but I saw him on quite a few interviews where he
00:37:48.560
talked about his policies and what this government was. Disgusting.
00:37:54.560
And he was a brave man. He was a good man. And he didn't deserve to die how he did. Not at all.
00:38:01.840
For people watching this that don't know who Peter Lynch is, Peter Lynch was someone from
00:38:07.980
my hometown of Rotherham that attended a protest. He was very passionate about his country, about
00:38:14.920
protecting children. Unfortunately, he was sent to prison. And even more unfortunately,
00:38:28.320
You know, how did he die? And the last thing that anybody saw of Peter Lynch was when he
00:38:34.400
stood in front of police officers and said to them, I pray for my grandchildren. I pray
00:38:41.040
for my country. They pushed him on the floor. He went down on the floor. After that, he was
00:38:48.000
Peter Lynch is just one of us. He was out. We've got children, grandchildren. He was out
00:38:53.120
just wanting to just make the country better for his children. We're all scared. We're all
00:38:57.840
scared. I've got ten grandchildren, two great-grandchildren. And I dread to think what's coming for him. I really
00:39:05.680
do. That man, I don't know what happened in jail. We can't question it, but I don't know.
00:39:18.960
I am, yes. But I've been paying attention. And I waved because, well, actually, I should
00:39:28.720
have come to speak to you because I saw your little clip saying, if you see me, come and
00:39:35.040
I do. So, well, I've kind of done that, haven't I?
00:39:43.520
I've got a two-year-old daughter, and I just worry about her future. I'm here for, like,
00:39:51.600
the agreement, not the agreement, the rape gangs. It's, like, it's absolutely disgusting.
00:39:56.640
And what happens in Southport is going to happen again.
00:39:59.440
Do you think we have freedom of speech in the UK?
00:40:13.120
Yes and no. Yes, I'm speaking. It's freedom of speech. But we are not being
00:40:17.120
guaranteed freedom after speech. So there's no freedom.
00:40:20.240
So, Liam, you are one of Tommy's closest friends. You've come here today. You've also
00:40:24.400
been hosting the event. You're just about to leave. How do you think it's gone?
00:40:28.880
It's gone very well. Very calm, very peaceful, very respectful. It's everything that the mainstream
00:40:37.360
hate to admit. And I'm sure that if you look at the headlines later on for the mainstream,
00:40:43.920
it will paint a very different picture. But rest assured, thousands of happy people. Very harmonious.
00:40:51.200
Donald Trump has started releasing the political prisoners in America.
00:40:55.440
Do you think Keir Starmer should do the same here?
00:40:57.600
Keir Starmer should do the same, because he's the one who put them in prison for the first time,
00:41:01.360
the majority of them. So he should follow Donald Trump's lead. But he's a weak leader,
00:41:06.000
Keir Starmer, so he will never do that until he gets told to by people like Trump. So things like
00:41:11.280
this will be important, because it will show that the people have an appetite for releasing innocent
00:41:17.520
people, rather than what Keir Starmer wants in his authoritarian regime, wants to imprison anyone who
00:41:22.720
wants to speak out against the government. Sadly, I have no faith in the government of any colour,
00:41:28.320
of any stripe at the moment, the way they keep putting him down. It's really a disgrace.
00:41:37.120
I admire Douglas Murray. He deals in such a mature manner with a difficult question,
00:41:46.000
because we know how toxic they like to make Tommy. If the people in government would only investigate,
00:41:57.440
only do their homework, then they would know that Tommy is a man to be admired.
00:42:04.160
What about the mainstream media? Do you trust the media? No. Why not?
00:42:09.200
Because it's all lies. I think they all tell lies. I used to be a conservative,
00:42:15.280
cancel my membership. I would never believe her anyway. And how I don't understand a party can get
00:42:21.280
in on the votes that less than 10,000 votes, be in power on lies and nothing but lies. So I listen,
00:42:29.280
I'm on YouTube all the time. Urban Scoop, Maya, Tappers. You watch Rebel News, don't you?
00:42:40.640
Gotta plug it. Do you think we have freedom of speech in the UK? Not at all. Not at all.
00:42:47.680
Do you think our country has freedom of speech? Well, no, not at all. Do you trust Keir Starmer
00:42:55.280
in the Labour government? Not at all. Not as far as I could throw in them. No, no,
00:43:02.880
they're horrible, evil people. Thank you for what you do at Rebel News.
00:43:08.000
Thank you. Yeah. Well, we at Rebel News, we like to give the people a voice,
00:43:12.800
so thank you for speaking with us. No, no, I love it. Especially what you did for the Amish people.
00:43:17.520
I was watching that with glee, sheer glee. And like I said, exposing the charity actors for what
00:43:25.920
they truly are, because they're given a script, they run with it, they make millions. But at the
00:43:30.480
end of the day, it's your freedom and mine that is a stake. Yeah. So thank you.
00:43:37.680
I have spoke to him. Sadly, they cancelled my visit on the 30th. I mean, every time I go and visit him,
00:43:44.560
I sign an NDA. I don't repeat that I've even been to see him because I don't want to jeopardise
00:43:48.960
future visits. Having visits with him is essential to his mental health, especially with friends.
00:43:54.160
I'm not a politician. I'm not a journalist. I'm just a friend that knows Stephen Yaxley Lennon,
00:43:59.920
the man that knows way more than the headlines like to portray. And it's disgraceful that they're
00:44:05.520
messing with his mind. And I look forward to when I do see him again. I think there's a new
00:44:10.560
process put in place. The whole process has been politicised. It's ridiculous. Contempt of court.
00:44:15.680
Most people will get a smack on the wrist and a fine. Yet there's Tommy Robinson sat in solitary
00:44:20.560
confinement for over three months now. It's a form of torture. No s buts or maybes. Whether you agree
00:44:26.720
with his politics or not, it's a victimless crime and he shouldn't be recategorised. He should now be
00:44:31.680
set free, period. Do you think Kia Stormer is the man to lead our country to victory?
00:44:37.280
No! Not at all. I think that wraps that up. What do you think to Kia Storm and the Labour Party?
00:44:44.960
Can they steer this country in the right direction? No chance. No. Everybody's lost though. You just
00:44:49.840
gotta look around the street. Do you think we're going to get the mainstream media here today?
00:44:54.080
We'll get some mainstream media here waiting to see a bit of action, but we won't get them here to
00:44:58.960
legitimately report what's going on. It's only you guys that we have to rely on because all they're
00:45:04.480
going to be doing if they are here to catch something that someone's done and then trying to
00:45:08.800
put the whole of the rally under disrepute, which is ridiculous. But you guys are here so we can
00:45:14.800
counter that with actual journalism. How do you feel about him being in solitary confinement?
00:45:20.560
Just terrible. How dare they? For telling the truth, basically. For exposing what's going on. He's been
00:45:31.600
standing for you girls ever since he was young, really. And I admire him greatly. I admire you all.
00:45:42.080
Do you trust the mainstream media? No. Never. I don't watch the mainstream media. I don't watch the telly.
00:45:46.960
Do you watch rebel news? I watch rebel news. I do watch rebel news. Yeah. Fantastic. Absolutely.
00:45:52.240
What does the UK need to improve? I think we need a kind of a Trump-like figure, some kind of a revolution.
00:46:02.400
It's not clear to me where that is going to come from or how that's going to happen.
00:46:08.080
So, so who is the person to lead the country then? Ben Heavy! Ben Heavy!
00:46:13.120
Nix to Codey. Nix to Codey. I just don't think UKIP would get in that's all. I'm upset
00:46:21.680
with what Richard and Nigel Farage have said about our friend. Do you think we have freedom of speech
00:46:27.520
in the uk no what do you think to the mainstream media i think they're disgraceful and that's why
00:46:34.400
we are all here and watching uh what 2ctv and urban scoop and rebel news and thank heavens for
00:46:44.240
them thank heavens for elon musk who has standing with tommy what do you think his mental health
00:46:52.080
is going to be like after you know he comes out of this do you think he's going to be okay
00:46:57.520
tommy will be okay because he has to be okay he's a leader of man and he's the head of his family
00:47:02.880
but he will need to work on himself when he comes out anybody that is subjected to sitting in a lonely
00:47:10.800
room for 23 hours a day every day in solitary confinement with only your mind to keep you
00:47:15.520
company uh that that takes its toll on your mental health so he will need sadly he will need a bit of
00:47:22.080
therapy a bit of counseling and he'll need to rebuild himself brick by brick but he will do
00:47:27.840
it because he's got the love and support of close friends and family members and he's also got
00:47:33.600
thousands of people you know not just around the uk but around the world that support him elon musk has
00:47:39.120
been you know very favorable about him he's paying his legal costs as well which is a good thing it's
00:47:45.440
phenomenal that elon musk a has given him the platform so he can there's a counterbalance now
00:47:52.160
so when there's lies printed about tommy elon musk has said well actually let's hear the right to reply
00:47:58.000
and once people have then read tommy's rights to reply the whole dynamic changes the whole perspective
00:48:04.000
of tommy robinson changes because they can see that there's lie after lie printed
00:48:08.160
and every single one can be proven that it's a lie so we really do owe elon musk like a hell of a lot
00:48:15.840
a for platforming tommy again because that's just changed the game completely but the general public
00:48:20.560
know that they have been lied to and misled it's a complete and utter insult and also the fact that
00:48:25.600
he's getting behind him financially and publicly even to the point he's denouncing people like nigel
00:48:30.800
farage what do you think to um mp nigel farage he's the leader of the rebound party uh i've i've long
00:48:40.720
time suspected that they might have something on him uh and so and and now i really strongly suspect
00:48:50.160
that because uh he's he's obviously politically switched on and yet twisting the knife into tommy
00:48:56.880
over and over and over his political suicide yeah i feel like he must be being forced to do that
00:49:05.280
because he he could just say hey look you know he's controversial he's not our cup of tea
00:49:12.640
uh he's not in reform anyway you know i mean and then we would still vote for him
00:49:17.760
uh but um now i would never vote for reform ever again i think they're just like tory 2.0
00:49:24.800
more of the same no change what do you make of rupert law he's been very vocal in the last couple of
00:49:30.800
weeks if he could be the leader of reform you keep in my opinion three elections away three elections
00:49:41.440
away i think nixon coney is the future pm but i think he will take three elections with nixon coney what i'll
00:49:49.200
say because the last one it's not what he says you agree with it sometimes his delivery does look a
00:49:56.000
little bit you'd almost imagine a little mustache in time because of the way he's sort of like yeah
00:50:03.440
i get that i get that 100 i'm with you he does do that but but who else who else is pumping their
00:50:13.200
well what do you think of sammy woodhouse she's still a little bit green but i think she's coming
00:50:19.840
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