Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trump's strongman tact dashes Trudeau's hopes for a trade war

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00:01:34.480 Tonight, Donald Trump imposes tariffs on Canada and Mexico, but just for a couple of days.

00:01:49.080 Are we out of the woods yet? It's February 3rd, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:53.260 You're ready for freedom!

00:01:56.400 Shame on you, you censorious bug!

00:02:04.480 Well, it all started in November. A demand for strong borders against drugs and migrants 1.00

00:02:15.420 or else. Donald Trump, during his transition period, got straight to work, demanding that

00:02:21.880 Canada and Mexico fix a problem by the time Trump took office on Inauguration Day, January 20th.

00:02:28.600 He said that the or else would be massive tariffs, 25%. Just to be clear what a tariff is,

00:02:37.840 it's a special import tax paid by the importer. So Canada would sell oil to the United States,

00:02:45.100 would sell automobiles. Those are, in fact, our two largest exports, and they would be sold at a

00:02:50.760 certain price. But when they came into America, the buyer would have to spend 25% more on a tariff.

00:02:57.500 That would likely price both of those things and anything else out of the market.

00:03:03.420 Well, Justin Trudeau thought he would get right on it and flew down to Mar-a-Lago,

00:03:08.940 Trump's unofficial White House in Florida, for an ill-fated meeting. It sounded like Donald Trump

00:03:15.880 made a joke about the 51st state, and it sounded like Trudeau winced. And he revealed, apparently,

00:03:22.180 according to people who were there, that tariffs would destroy the Canadian economy. Well, Donald Trump

00:03:27.320 took that as a targeting exercise. You know how he is with nicknames. He knows that weak spot. And so

00:03:35.940 for months, Donald Trump taunted Justin Trudeau about being the governor of the 51st state of Canada.

00:03:45.040 Oh, it clearly rattled Trudeau and the entire political media establishment. Canadians are obsessed

00:03:52.180 with Donald Trump, as are all people on planet Earth. But until then, the obsession was sort of

00:03:58.100 from the cheap seats high up in the audience. We weren't actual players in the arena. Suddenly,

00:04:05.960 Donald Trump was engaging with us. So Justin Trudeau declared a Team Canada approach. That's certainly

00:04:13.660 what he called it. But it was anything but. He put together a crew of people with no Democratic

00:04:20.380 mandate. Trudeau himself lacked a Democratic mandate, having just announced that he intends

00:04:25.300 to resign on March 9th. He dissolved Parliament to avoid Democratic accountability. And he put together

00:04:32.700 a Canada-U.S. Trade Council, which was purely political and had very little to do with trade.

00:04:40.000 But here's just one example. Danielle Smith, the Premier of Alberta, the main oil pumping province,

00:04:46.500 started shuttle diplomacy back and forth to Washington, D.C. almost every week. You might

00:04:51.480 remember I bumped into her the day before the inauguration and we had a quick interview. Here's

00:04:57.020 an excerpt from that. Is there anyone else working the rooms on behalf of Canada or is it just you and

00:05:03.280 your team? I haven't seen any Canadians who are here in an official role from the federal government.

00:05:09.820 I don't know if they will tomorrow. I'll be going to the Canadian embassy as the change to the

00:05:14.280 inauguration has been moved indoors. We'll be watching the inauguration from the embassy and

00:05:18.420 I'll be able to have more conversations there. But my view has always been, if you're going to be

00:05:23.020 diplomatic, lead with diplomacy, lead with a relationship, lead with common interests, lead

00:05:27.420 with talking about what the Americans benefit from their relationship with Canada. So I've taken a bit

00:05:32.820 of a departure, I think, from our federal counterparts, but I think it's the right one. I think that this is

00:05:37.140 going to be the way that we ensure that the relationship does not get damaged as the federal

00:05:42.900 liberals are going through their inner party turmoil. That's the thing I find sort of stressing is that

00:05:47.720 they're not taking a Canada first approach. They're taking a Liberal Party first approach.

00:05:52.400 They're turning the Americans and the Trump administration in particular into the bad guys

00:05:58.640 so that they can campaign against them for their own personal political benefit. And that is not good

00:06:04.040 for the country. So we're putting the country first. We're putting the relationship first.

00:06:07.900 And we hope that we end up with a positive outcome.

00:06:10.540 She was going back and forth trying to make the case to Americans that it really didn't make sense

00:06:14.740 to put an import tax or a tariff on oil because that oil went to American refineries to be turned

00:06:20.340 into many products, including gasoline. The end product would just be 25% or 10% more expensive,

00:06:27.700 whatever it would be. Why would that make sense when Canada is such a good supplier?

00:06:32.100 Danielle Smith went in as a diplomat. She didn't go in to agitate or to exacerbate, 1.00

00:06:37.800 but to explain and smooth over. She was the only one that was doing so. The others

00:06:43.280 sought to turn this into a grand battle where they could demonstrate how virtuous they are.

00:06:48.340 I mentioned a moment ago, the trade council that Justin Trudeau put together. Well, it includes

00:06:53.280 Rachel Notley and her former campaign manager. That's the former NDP premier of Alberta who brought in

00:07:01.560 the carbon tax and tried to kill off the industry itself. The person that Danielle Smith beat. 0.84

00:07:07.180 Could you imagine that the representative for Alberta is the socialist, carbon taxing,

00:07:13.160 Alberta-hating NDP premier who was a mortal enemy of Danielle Smith? Clearly,

00:07:19.040 the whole purpose was to have the war. And that's what was so easy to discern so quickly.

00:07:25.680 Most Canadian politicians wanted the or else to happen. Remember, Donald Trump said,

00:07:34.700 I need the border sealed for illegal immigrants. I need the border sealed to illegal drugs or else 1.00

00:07:40.380 I'll do these things. But it was very clear that while it might take a few billion dollars and a

00:07:45.420 little bit of effort to seal that border, that all of these politicians actually wanted the brutal 0.52

00:07:51.320 trade war that would possibly devastate the country. They wanted that for their own selfish reasons.

00:07:58.220 Justin Trudeau himself to feel important and patriotic and to leave on a high note, perhaps,

00:08:04.040 defending the country against the evil Trump, playing for his international fans, if there are any.

00:08:11.220 David Eby, the hardcore left-wing pro-drug legalization premier of British Columbia.

00:08:17.340 He actually, I think, probably is pro-fentanyl. In fact, I know he is. Their public health officer

00:08:23.700 out there was proposing government-funded, government-distributed fentanyl. Just absolutely

00:08:30.220 crazy. And in the case of Ontario's Doug Ford, he was opportunistic for his own reason. He's ahead

00:08:37.980 in the polls and he wanted to lock that in by having a snap election, painting himself as a hero of

00:08:44.180 Ontarians. But none of them actually went to Washington to try to solve the problem or try

00:08:50.660 to soften the tariffs. They all actually wanted them to be as brutal as possible. Every one of

00:08:57.580 the politicians I just listed would rather campaign against Donald Trump than against their actual

00:09:03.720 opponent. And every one of them would like to mask their own economic mismanagement by blaming

00:09:10.200 any disasters that the tariffs would cause. You know, for 10 years, Canada's establishment had

00:09:15.980 Trump derangement syndrome. And it all just came out in the last few weeks. Look, tariffs aren't great.

00:09:24.040 I'm not sure if a 10% oil tariff would have devastated the oil industry, because believe it or not,

00:09:30.020 Canadian oil is often sold at below world market prices to America. And you might think,

00:09:35.700 how is that even possible? Well, the answer is because the Liberals and the NDP have blocked

00:09:40.640 pipelines to blue water. So Alberta can't actually export in any sizable amount to India or Korea or

00:09:49.640 Japan or let alone China. We might have been able to had we had the Northern Gateway pipeline and the

00:09:56.640 Canada, the Energy East pipeline that would have gone all the way to St. John, New Brunswick,

00:10:02.380 where Canada's largest refinery is. Those were blocked. So the only people we could sell it to

00:10:07.900 were the Americans. Recently, the Trans Mountain pipeline is open, but it's not a big game changer.

00:10:13.660 We need much more pipelines. So we're selling it at a discount much of the time. So a 10% tariff

00:10:20.600 might not be the end of the world, but it certainly would be a disaster for other things. And remember

00:10:25.820 the point of a tariff. Of course, it's to raise money for the government. But Donald Trump is crystal

00:10:30.940 clear. He wants to bring factories and industry home to America. And think about that if you're

00:10:37.340 the second largest exporter of Canada, which is the auto sector. By far, the biggest and most valuable

00:10:43.940 exports Canada have to the United States are oil and gas. But in second place, far back, but still in

00:10:49.980 second place, is the auto industry. Donald Trump knows there are no votes for him in Ontario and Quebec.

00:10:57.560 There's no electoral college votes for having a car factory in Windsor, Ontario. But if he were to

00:11:05.300 bring those jobs back to Detroit and to places in Ohio, there absolutely would be jobs. And really,

00:11:12.880 that's one of the things a tariff does is it makes exporters think, well, can I relocate within the

00:11:18.580 country I'm selling to, to avoid the tariff? That said, the auto industry is pretty integrated on both

00:11:26.840 sides of the border. That is, to build one vehicle, often different things are done on the Windsor or

00:11:32.340 the Detroit side. Here's a clip of a senator from Michigan making that point to Trump's commerce

00:11:39.280 secretary nominee saying, look, be careful with the auto industry because we actually do work in an

00:11:45.500 integrated way with Canada. Here's that clip. I think I showed you this a week ago.

00:11:49.320 As a senator from Michigan, I'm particularly focused on manufacturing. We know how to make things in

00:11:54.080 Michigan. We, and I don't think you can be a great country if you don't actually make things. And

00:11:58.220 that's what we do in my state. And I want to work with the administration to make sure we're growing

00:12:02.700 that sector as well as creating good paying jobs that result from manufacturing. However, I am concerned

00:12:10.580 that President Trump's plan to impose tariffs on, on Canada and Mexico before the rest of the world.

00:12:16.980 In fact, it could be in a matter of days, is what we are hearing, could hurt our manufacturers who do

00:12:25.100 considerable trade back and forth, as we discussed in the office. Michigan is the home of the two of the

00:12:32.040 top three border crossings in North America. We're two of them. And a lot of that are auto parts that go

00:12:37.240 back and forth. It's a highly integrated industry. And our auto companies are very concerned about what

00:12:43.640 those, those tariffs might mean to cost, particularly to the cost of vehicles. Already, something we

00:12:50.840 discussed, I'm concerned about the high cost of vehicles. Many families can't afford them now.

00:12:55.040 And if tariffs are put in place that deal with that seamless trade that goes on with Canada,

00:13:02.700 that that in the short run could definitely have an impact on prices and make cars even more

00:13:08.040 unaffordable. I don't think that's something the American people want to see. And I'm afraid it would hurt

00:13:12.820 consumers as well as also hurt those workers. So my question for you, sir, is talk me through how

00:13:21.160 those tariffs would be implemented, what you're thinking will happen there, and how it's going to

00:13:27.220 have an impact on prices, particularly in the short term. I know where you're going to go on the long

00:13:33.080 term, but all this stuff takes time. And especially when it comes to manufacturing, it's not an industry

00:13:38.580 that can turn on a dime. It's much more complicated, as I know you know.

00:13:42.920 So the big tariff view is going to be studied. And the president launched that in an executive

00:13:48.920 order where he asked the Commerce Department and the USTR to study the tariff model long term.

00:13:56.560 The short term issue is illegal migration and worse, even still, fentanyl coming into this country

00:14:04.100 and killing over 100,000 Americans. There's no war we could have that would kill 100,000 Americans.

00:14:10.620 The president is focused on ending fentanyl coming into the country. You know that the labs in Canada

00:14:18.380 are run by Mexican cartels. So this tariff model is simply to shut their borders with respect. 0.83

00:14:27.160 Respect America. If we are your biggest trading partner, show us the respect. Shut your border 0.57

00:14:32.280 and end fentanyl coming into this country. So it is not a tariff, per se. It is an action

00:14:38.800 of domestic policy. Shut your border and stop allowing fentanyl into our country, killing our

00:14:45.720 people. So this is a separate tariff to create action from Mexico and action from Canada. And

00:14:54.500 as far as I know, they are acting swiftly. And if they execute it, there will be no tariff. And

00:14:59.740 if they don't, then there will be. But it's an action oriented model. That's not the ordinary

00:15:05.580 tariff. The ordinary tariffs need to be studied and examined. And that will start, as the EO said,

00:15:11.700 in April. So I'm not sure if it makes a lot of sense to sack the auto industry with a 25% tariff,

00:15:18.520 but it makes zero sense to do that on the oil and gas side. For the main reason is you can't move the

00:15:25.740 oil sands to America. The oil sands can't say, wow, these tariffs are punitive. Let's get within

00:15:31.400 the borders of the United States. We're free from the tariffs. You can't move the oil sands.

00:15:37.720 And by the way, the companies developing the oil sands are either American companies or Canadian

00:15:43.240 companies with lots of American shareholders. It just doesn't make sense. But you had this revival

00:15:50.120 of Team Canada and sudden patriotism, and they were denouncing anyone who disagreed with them as

00:15:56.140 traitors. They were literally calling Danielle Smith, the one woman trying to save things, calling

00:16:00.600 her a traitor. Where was this Team Canada approach? Building pipelines, building tankers, or how about

00:16:07.040 even free trade internally? And I was thinking, if you've ever been to the States and bought eggs or

00:16:14.220 milk or cheese, you'll notice how much cheaper it is. It's about half price. Who put those tariffs on us

00:16:23.160 to make us pay double for dairy and poultry? And by the way, if you've been anywhere other than Canada,

00:16:28.820 you know that their dairy selection is so much better, whether it's yogurt or butter or whatever.

00:16:34.300 Who was that dastardly person who put the tariffs on us for that? Was it Donald Trump? No.

00:16:40.860 It was in our own government, who have national supply management. That's what they call it,

00:16:47.000 where they make it illegal to produce milk or poultry or other things like that without the

00:16:54.020 government's permission, without a license from the government. They call it supply management because

00:16:58.020 of the law of supply and demand. They restrict the supply so the price goes up. That was done to us by

00:17:06.220 our own government. But while I'm on a rant about that, who put the tariffs on us for the big banks

00:17:12.760 with their awful service and their very low interest rate savings accounts and all their fees?

00:17:21.140 Who said we can only do business with Canadian banks instead of American banks? Why can't there be

00:17:26.740 American banks competing for our business here? And the worst of all are cell phones and the internet.

00:17:33.440 I think you probably know, again, if you've ever traveled, that Canada's cell phone rates are

00:17:39.960 literally amongst the highest in the world, especially for data. Who did that to us? Was that

00:17:46.860 Donald Trump? No. Everything I've just listed in the last five minutes was done to us by ourselves.

00:17:53.640 And Trump on February 1st brought in tariffs that would have hit the oil patch with 10% and everyone

00:17:59.360 else with 25%. You know what's happening in just a couple of months on April 1st?

00:18:05.560 Justin Trudeau is ratcheting up the carbon tax by how much? By 19%. Who did that to us? Who's

00:18:14.340 devastating our economy? Trudeau and our closed socialist system. So yeah, Donald Trump is mean.

00:18:22.960 He's mean to people who are mean to him first. I mentioned the nicknames and the 51st state

00:18:30.400 cage rattling. Well, don't think that Justin Trudeau hasn't done his share of taunting

00:18:35.100 Trump. In fact, far worse calling him a sexual assaulter, saying he is fomenting violence and

00:18:43.300 insurrection. Here's Trudeau talking about January 6th.

00:18:47.280 What we witnessed was an assault on democracy by violent rioters, incited by the current

00:18:53.880 president and other politicians. As shocking, deeply disturbing, and frankly saddening as

00:19:02.140 that event remains, we've also seen this week that democracy is resilient in America, our

00:19:09.240 closest ally and neighbor. Violence has no place in our societies, and extremists will not succeed

00:19:16.920 in overruling the will of the people. As Canadians, I think we've been all reflecting on our own

00:19:24.020 country, something I spoke with the premiers about last night, about the fact that democracy

00:19:29.560 is not automatic. It takes work every day. About what a real accomplishment it is to maintain a

00:19:38.980 political system in which the losing side gracefully concedes, and in which rival political parties

00:19:45.620 between elections work together for the common good. We have this in Canada because Canadians

00:19:53.320 make it possible. Canadians expect their political leaders to protect our precious democracy by how

00:20:01.940 we conduct ourselves. Chrystia Freeland attended an event that compared Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin,

00:20:07.360 calling them both tyrants. And here's Chrystia Freeland rollicking in the fact that Trump doesn't like 1.00

00:20:14.460 her, and she wants to emphasize that. Is that someone who wants to get a deal, or is that someone who

00:20:20.000 wants to fight Trump to the detriment of the whole country? I want to let you in on a little secret.

00:20:25.260 Donald Trump doesn't like me very much. Canada. We don't like their representative very much.

00:20:30.520 I'm a tough negotiator. During the first Trump administration, I fought hard to protect Canadian

00:20:35.900 jobs, the Canadian economy, and our way of life. And we won. I left Trudeau's cabinet because I know

00:20:42.680 what we need to do to win that fight again. Donald Trump and his billionaire buddies think they can push

00:20:48.420 us around. Trump thinks we're for sale, but he can take what isn't his. I'm not going to let him.

00:20:55.220 Well, anyways, today was the day they pulled the trigger. Donald Trump pulled the trigger. 25% on

00:21:02.820 everything except for energy, which was 10%. And there was a lot—actually, it happened on February 1st.

00:21:09.860 Excuse me. It happened two days ago. Now, there was lots of Canada bashing online, including from

00:21:16.600 conservatives that I think a lot of conservative Canadians typically like. Vice President J.D. Vance,

00:21:21.460 Matt Gaetz, the former congressman and short-lived nominee for attorney general. And they were sort

00:21:28.420 of mocking Canada and said, you had it coming. But I responded in a few tweets myself, some of which

00:21:33.420 got quite a lot of views. How is it helping America to put a tariff on Canadian oil? I said that to Matt

00:21:41.500 Gaetz. I said, if you're not going to buy your oil from Canada, who are you going to buy it from that's

00:21:48.200 better? And by the way, if you're not buying our oil, who would you like us to sell it to?

00:21:55.600 The obvious answer being China would love to get their paws on it. So from an America-first, 0.96

00:22:00.960 America-centric, what's right for the little guy in America point of view, how does going after Canada 0.81

00:22:07.420 help? I mean, going after any industry in Canada just raises the price in America. The answer might

00:22:12.780 be well, you'll move those factories home. But like I say, by far the largest export to America is oil

00:22:18.520 sands. You cannot move them. They will continue to pump oil. And if America doesn't buy it, who would

00:22:25.840 America rather have their hands on that enormous strategic asset? And both J.D. Vance and Matt Gaetz and

00:22:33.820 so many others show their disdain for Trudeau. Hey, me too. I'm not sure if there's anyone in Canada

00:22:42.020 who's not an elected opposition politician who's expressed more antagonism towards Justin Trudeau as

00:22:50.520 we have at Rebel News. I mean, we're suing them in so many ways. They sue us. We've published five books

00:22:57.840 about Trudeau. We campaign against him with billboard trucks. It's a brutal fight. Believe me,

00:23:05.820 I don't let a lot of people say they're bigger opponents of Trudeau than I am. But how does

00:23:14.300 shooting at Canadian workers hurt Justin Trudeau? He's a gazillionaire. He's only got five more weeks

00:23:20.940 on the job. That's my point. That J.D. Vance and Matt Gaetz and these tariffs were shooting at

00:23:28.980 Trudeau, but they were hitting Canadian industries and more to the point, hitting American consumers,

00:23:34.920 including who buys Canadian oil, American refineries. Now, in the end, after two days,

00:23:41.220 there was a reprieve. And I don't think that tariffs actually took effect because it was over

00:23:45.060 the weekend. Trump brought them in on February 1st, as he promised. And today on February 3rd,

00:23:49.500 he undoes them. And I want to read to you his announcements that they were over.

00:23:53.640 He had two phone calls today. And let me read them his readout. They're very similar.

00:23:59.000 On Truth Social, Trump said, I just spoke with President Claudia Scheinbaum of Mexico. It was a

00:24:04.620 very friendly conversation, wherein she agreed to immediately supply 10,000 Mexican soldiers on the

00:24:11.860 border, separating Mexico and the United States. These soldiers will be specially designated to stop the

00:24:17.560 flow of fentanyl and illegal migrants into our country. We further agreed to immediately pause

00:24:22.840 the anticipated tariffs for a one-month period, during which we will have negotiations headed by

00:24:27.820 Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Secretary of Treasury Board, Treasury Scott Besant, Secretary of Commerce

00:24:35.660 Howard Lutnik, and high-level representatives of Mexico. I look forward to participating in these

00:24:40.400 negotiations with President Scheinbaum as we attempt to achieve a deal between our two countries.

00:24:45.420 So what has Trump got? He's got Mexico's attention. And if it's true, he'll have 10,000 Mexican soldiers

00:24:53.700 dedicating to stop migrants before they get to the border. Now, I don't know how many were tasked

00:24:59.380 with that mission beforehand, but I don't think they were quite as attentive as they're going to be in the

00:25:03.960 next 30 days. Do you? And then at 3 p.m., Trump had his phone call with Justin Trudeau.

00:25:09.980 And I'm not sure if you could say Canada caved, but let me read to you what Trudeau agreed to do. And you

00:25:17.360 tell me if this is more Trudeau-y or more Trump-y. Canada has agreed to ensure we have a secure northern

00:25:24.920 border and to finally end the deadly scourge of drugs like fentanyl that have been pouring into our

00:25:30.000 country, killing hundreds of thousands of Americans while destroying their families and communities all 0.73

00:25:34.300 across our country. Canada will implement their $1.3 billion plan. And as per Prime Minister Trudeau,

00:25:40.660 we'll be, quote, reinforcing the border with new choppers, technology and personnel, enhanced

00:25:46.520 coordination with our American partners, and increased resources to stop the flow of fentanyl.

00:25:51.620 Nearly 10,000 frontline personnel are and will be working on protecting the border. In addition,

00:25:58.060 Canada is making new commitments to appoint a fentanyl czar. We will list cartels as terrorists,

00:26:05.320 ensure 24-7 eyes on the border, launch a Canada-U.S. joint strike force to combat organized crime,

00:26:12.680 fentanyl, and money laundering. I have also signed a new intelligence directive on organized crime and

00:26:18.020 fentanyl, and we will be backing you with $200 million. As president, it is my responsibility to

00:26:23.400 ensure the safety of all Americans, and I am doing just that. I am very pleased with this

00:26:27.900 initial outcome, and the tariffs announced on Saturday will be paused for a 30-day period to

00:26:33.300 see whether or not a final economic deal with Canada can be structured. Fairness for all. Now,

00:26:38.840 in some ways, you could say that Trudeau held the line. He had already announced $1.3 billion,

00:26:45.440 which is not a lot of money for a border over the course of time. Agreeing to, in the future,

00:26:51.640 appoint a fentanyl czar. Okay, so who's that going to be? Just some, you know, token,

00:26:57.660 is that going to be Melanie Jolie? Like, what does it even mean? What powers will they have?

00:27:02.060 I think designating cartels as terrorists, but it's unclear if America's doing that on its own

00:27:07.180 or Canada, too. I think Trudeau can rightly say that Trump sort of blinked. But on the other hand,

00:27:15.060 I think Trump succeeded in getting Canada's full attention and making our country take border

00:27:21.280 control seriously for the first time. What it also did, and what I'm hopeful,

00:27:27.260 is that it woke Canadians up to the peril of having only one customer for our oil and gas.

00:27:32.540 The word monopoly is when there's only one person buying, sorry, one person selling and everyone has

00:27:39.900 to buy from them, so the price goes up. But when there's only one person buying, it's called a

00:27:44.140 monopsony. It's the opposite, and your price goes down, and you're beholden to them. If we had

00:27:50.240 pipelines and tankers that could sell our oil anywhere in the world, we would be in a much

00:27:55.200 better negotiating position. Now, Pierre Polly have released a video, and I think a lot of it's very

00:27:59.980 right, that we have to start by breaking down trade barriers within Canada. We have to build our industry

00:28:07.740 to trade with many places around the world. He put up an interesting video, and I think he's pretty

00:28:14.200 solid. He's careful he's not coming across as a Trump apologist. He's certainly not doing that.

00:28:19.140 That would allow the media to label him more than they are even now. But I think what we've all learned

00:28:25.320 over the last couple of months is we cannot leave diplomacy to the liberals. They're terrible

00:28:30.600 negotiators, and in the case of Donald Trump, they want to fail because they want to fight with

00:28:35.880 them. I think it's absolutely essential that Parliament resume as soon as possible. You know,

00:28:40.760 all these liberals saying everything's on the table. Absolutely everything's on the table,

00:28:44.580 which is generally code for they don't know what they're going to do. But the one thing that

00:28:48.520 certainly wasn't on the table for them was crack down on the border or have Parliament resume. And can

00:28:54.080 you really do some of these things like new spending and new projects without Parliament approving? And

00:28:58.680 I'm not so sure. I think what we've learned over the last couple of months is that we don't have

00:29:05.640 a serious country when it comes to foreign affairs and business affairs. I think a lot of the things

00:29:10.600 that Donald Trump has demanded from Canada, if you take Trump out of the picture, well, they're pretty

00:29:16.120 normal, reasonable things. America wants to do some banking in Canada. No one has to get a bank account

00:29:24.640 with Wells Fargo or Bank of America. But right now, no one even has the choice. Donald Trump, I think,

00:29:31.560 wants to get American banks in our country. And frankly, why would we object? No one has to bank

00:29:36.820 with them if they don't want to. But wouldn't it be nice to have some competition out there?

00:29:40.840 Same thing I would suggest with cell phone companies. I don't think Trump has mentioned

00:29:44.500 that. But wouldn't you like to have the ability to sign up to T-Mobile or Verizon or whatever they're

00:29:50.260 called? Again, you don't have to. If you love Bell, if you love Tellus and Rogers, and I don't think in

00:29:58.060 my entire life I've met anyone who does, keep it. So I think a lot of, and the military. I mean,

00:30:05.480 Donald Trump keeps talking about how much he's subsidizing Canada. And when he talks about a

00:30:10.140 trade surplus, that's not a subsidy. That's buying our oil rather than buying it from, let's say,

00:30:14.540 Saudi Arabia. But where he's correct is that Canada has had our military defense subsidized

00:30:20.420 by America. That is very true. Listen, it's good to be a nationalist and a patriot. And I consider

00:30:26.720 myself a nationalist and a patriot. That said, I don't think we actually needed to have a war with

00:30:32.400 Trump. I think we just had to do what was in our interest the whole time, seal the border to drugs and

00:30:37.140 bad guys. I think Trudeau and E.B. and even Doug Ford so relished the fight that they put Canada's

00:30:44.240 interests aside and followed their own. I think we've got to kick out all those political predators

00:30:49.840 who would have sold us out for their own reasons. Well, those are my thoughts. We'll see what's up

00:30:57.300 ahead. I'm going to have a surprise for you on this issue over the next few days. I think you'll be

00:31:01.560 a little bit surprised and delighted to hear it. I don't want to prejudge, but I'll have some news for

00:31:06.660 you on this file in the days ahead. Let me give you a little hint. Remember I wrote a book called

00:31:10.960 Ethical Oil. The Case for Canada's Oil Sands. Well, it's sort of related to that.

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00:32:09.120 patriots and support our independent journalism. Hey, for the rest of today's show, I want to

00:32:16.740 reintroduce you to Sammy Woodhouse. We just hired Sammy in the UK. As you know, we are interested in

00:32:23.540 things there. I sometimes fly over there, but it's time consuming and it's expensive to fly over to the UK

00:32:29.860 from Canada. And we've got very important things to cover here. So we've hired Sammy and a videographer

00:32:35.680 over there to cover the stories we're interested in, including freedom of speech, the case of Tommy

00:32:40.620 Robinson, and the rape gangs. As you may know, Sammy was one of the original victims and then the

00:32:48.580 whistleblowers of the Rotherham rape gang. And she led a movement to stand up for these girls.

00:32:56.120 They were all girls, very young, who were targeted by these grooming gangs. Sammy is a very brave soul.

00:33:04.380 And we're delighted to have her on our team. She's an activist and a journalist. And I think she's great.

00:33:11.600 This is her first video for us. Some streeters of what Brits think. Take a look.

00:33:18.240 It's a cold Saturday here in London, but I'm here to report on the Stop the Isolation event

00:33:27.980 for citizen journalist and activist Tommy Robinson. Now, Tommy was sentenced to 18 months in prison

00:33:34.880 and he's currently in solitary confinement for publishing his documentary, Silence, which

00:33:40.540 currently has around 157 million impressions on X. Now, the mainstream media probably won't attend

00:33:49.100 today. And if they do, they'll probably brand this crowd as racist or far-eyed. But I'm not the

00:33:54.360 mainstream media and I'm here to listen to what the people have to say. Now, you can go and support

00:33:59.720 my journalism and see more reports from today at TommyRobinson.com. I'm Sammy Woodhouse reporting

00:34:06.280 with Rebel News.

00:34:07.460 Kids are dying. Media and government are lying. Kids are dying. Media and government are lying.

00:34:16.600 What brings you here today?

00:34:17.940 We're here today because of Tommy's imprisonment and the imprisonment of every political prisoner

00:34:23.900 in the UK, just to make a stand, to make our voices heard and obviously to try and help

00:34:29.780 those that are in prison for things like doing the memes and, you know, political stuff.

00:34:34.860 Do you trust the mainstream media to tell us the truth about important subjects, you know,

00:34:39.260 about immigration, about the rape gangs?

00:34:41.620 Do I trust them? No. I don't think I ever put trust in mainstream media in the same sentence

00:34:46.100 usually. No. I think mainstream media will probably go away and become archaic because now that we

00:34:54.320 have X and people can speak and you can do reports on independent media, people will, all around the

00:35:01.700 world are waking up to realize that that's the truth. And mainstream media is bought and paid

00:35:05.320 for all around the world. And so, yeah, I hope they all go away.

00:35:09.200 So, Sammy, how are you, my darling? I'm all right, my love. Listen, you look great.

00:35:39.180 Absolutely fabulous. You're certainly dressed up for the day, aren't you? How's today been so far?

00:35:43.860 Do you know something? For me, it was important to come out here dressed as an English gentleman.

00:35:49.520 And I'm proud to be associated with Tommy Robinson dressed as an English gentleman.

00:35:56.180 And I can say I know him. He certainly is a gentleman.

00:35:58.660 I've just arrived at Downing Street and so are thousands of other patrons that I've taken to the

00:36:20.300 streets today in support of citizen journalist and activist Tommy Robinson and the UK's political

00:36:26.660 business. Now, as you can see behind me. Can everybody hear me at the back?

00:36:31.800 As you can see behind me. Yes, no, no, come on!

00:36:34.620 There's thousands here and the event has just started to take place.

00:36:38.480 So we're going to hear from the speakers and I'll speak to all of them.

00:36:41.340 Come on! In the air! Yes, please! Come on!

00:36:46.880 And remember, there's going to be agitators amongst everybody.

00:36:51.820 Hey! You are sure that's been to happen, but we'll roll with it!

00:36:57.580 Excuse me, can I speak to you about your flag?

00:37:21.920 Hello, Sammy. I admire you very much.

00:37:27.060 Oh, thank you, sweetheart. Thank you.

00:37:28.680 Brilliant. Great joy to meet you.

00:37:30.680 Thank you. And what brings you to me today?

00:37:33.780 I'm always here for Tommy.

00:37:36.500 So you're a regular at his protest then?

00:37:39.000 Very much so, yes.

00:37:40.180 Yes. So did you know Peter personally?

00:37:42.380 No, no, I didn't know Peter personally, but I saw him on quite a few interviews where he

00:37:48.560 talked about his policies and what this government was. Disgusting.

00:37:54.560 And he was a brave man. He was a good man. And he didn't deserve to die how he did. Not at all.

00:38:01.840 For people watching this that don't know who Peter Lynch is, Peter Lynch was someone from

00:38:07.980 my hometown of Rotherham that attended a protest. He was very passionate about his country, about

00:38:14.920 protecting children. Unfortunately, he was sent to prison. And even more unfortunately,

00:38:20.840 he took his own life whilst in prison.

00:38:23.480 Questionable.

00:38:25.180 Okay.

00:38:25.480 Whether he took his own life. Questionable.

00:38:28.020 Okay.

00:38:28.320 You know, how did he die? And the last thing that anybody saw of Peter Lynch was when he

00:38:34.400 stood in front of police officers and said to them, I pray for my grandchildren. I pray

00:38:41.040 for my country. They pushed him on the floor. He went down on the floor. After that, he was

00:38:46.260 arrested. And now he's dead.

00:38:48.000 Peter Lynch is just one of us. He was out. We've got children, grandchildren. He was out

00:38:53.120 just wanting to just make the country better for his children. We're all scared. We're all

00:38:57.840 scared. I've got ten grandchildren, two great-grandchildren. And I dread to think what's coming for him. I really

00:39:05.680 do. That man, I don't know what happened in jail. We can't question it, but I don't know.

00:39:12.160 What brings you here today?

00:39:13.120 Well, this is my first rally.

00:39:16.120 Oh, so you're a rally virgin.

00:39:18.960 I am, yes. But I've been paying attention. And I waved because, well, actually, I should

00:39:28.720 have come to speak to you because I saw your little clip saying, if you see me, come and

00:39:33.840 speak to me and say hello.

00:39:35.040 I do. So, well, I've kind of done that, haven't I?

00:39:37.920 Yes, you have. Thank you.

00:39:39.040 Do you trust the mainstream media?

00:39:41.520 No.

00:39:41.840 No.

00:39:42.640 What is that?

00:39:43.520 I've got a two-year-old daughter, and I just worry about her future. I'm here for, like,

00:39:51.600 the agreement, not the agreement, the rape gangs. It's, like, it's absolutely disgusting.

00:39:56.640 And what happens in Southport is going to happen again.

00:39:59.440 Do you think we have freedom of speech in the UK?

00:40:13.120 Yes and no. Yes, I'm speaking. It's freedom of speech. But we are not being

00:40:17.120 guaranteed freedom after speech. So there's no freedom.

00:40:20.240 So, Liam, you are one of Tommy's closest friends. You've come here today. You've also

00:40:24.400 been hosting the event. You're just about to leave. How do you think it's gone?

00:40:28.880 It's gone very well. Very calm, very peaceful, very respectful. It's everything that the mainstream

00:40:37.360 hate to admit. And I'm sure that if you look at the headlines later on for the mainstream,

00:40:43.920 it will paint a very different picture. But rest assured, thousands of happy people. Very harmonious.

00:40:51.200 Donald Trump has started releasing the political prisoners in America.

00:40:55.440 Do you think Keir Starmer should do the same here?

00:40:57.600 Keir Starmer should do the same, because he's the one who put them in prison for the first time,

00:41:01.360 the majority of them. So he should follow Donald Trump's lead. But he's a weak leader,

00:41:06.000 Keir Starmer, so he will never do that until he gets told to by people like Trump. So things like

00:41:11.280 this will be important, because it will show that the people have an appetite for releasing innocent

00:41:17.520 people, rather than what Keir Starmer wants in his authoritarian regime, wants to imprison anyone who

00:41:22.720 wants to speak out against the government. Sadly, I have no faith in the government of any colour, 1.00

00:41:28.320 of any stripe at the moment, the way they keep putting him down. It's really a disgrace.

00:41:37.120 I admire Douglas Murray. He deals in such a mature manner with a difficult question,

00:41:46.000 because we know how toxic they like to make Tommy. If the people in government would only investigate,

00:41:57.440 only do their homework, then they would know that Tommy is a man to be admired.

00:42:04.160 What about the mainstream media? Do you trust the media? No. Why not?

00:42:09.200 Because it's all lies. I think they all tell lies. I used to be a conservative,

00:42:15.280 cancel my membership. I would never believe her anyway. And how I don't understand a party can get

00:42:21.280 in on the votes that less than 10,000 votes, be in power on lies and nothing but lies. So I listen,

00:42:29.280 I'm on YouTube all the time. Urban Scoop, Maya, Tappers. You watch Rebel News, don't you?

00:42:37.120 All of them. All of them.

00:42:40.640 Gotta plug it. Do you think we have freedom of speech in the UK? Not at all. Not at all.

00:42:47.680 Do you think our country has freedom of speech? Well, no, not at all. Do you trust Keir Starmer

00:42:55.280 in the Labour government? Not at all. Not as far as I could throw in them. No, no,

00:43:02.880 they're horrible, evil people. Thank you for what you do at Rebel News.

00:43:08.000 Thank you. Yeah. Well, we at Rebel News, we like to give the people a voice,

00:43:12.800 so thank you for speaking with us. No, no, I love it. Especially what you did for the Amish people.

00:43:17.520 I was watching that with glee, sheer glee. And like I said, exposing the charity actors for what

00:43:25.920 they truly are, because they're given a script, they run with it, they make millions. But at the

00:43:30.480 end of the day, it's your freedom and mine that is a stake. Yeah. So thank you.

00:43:34.960 And how easy, Tommy? Have you spoke to him?

00:43:37.680 I have spoke to him. Sadly, they cancelled my visit on the 30th. I mean, every time I go and visit him,

00:43:44.560 I sign an NDA. I don't repeat that I've even been to see him because I don't want to jeopardise

00:43:48.960 future visits. Having visits with him is essential to his mental health, especially with friends.

00:43:54.160 I'm not a politician. I'm not a journalist. I'm just a friend that knows Stephen Yaxley Lennon,

00:43:59.920 the man that knows way more than the headlines like to portray. And it's disgraceful that they're

00:44:05.520 messing with his mind. And I look forward to when I do see him again. I think there's a new

00:44:10.560 process put in place. The whole process has been politicised. It's ridiculous. Contempt of court.

00:44:15.680 Most people will get a smack on the wrist and a fine. Yet there's Tommy Robinson sat in solitary

00:44:20.560 confinement for over three months now. It's a form of torture. No s buts or maybes. Whether you agree

00:44:26.720 with his politics or not, it's a victimless crime and he shouldn't be recategorised. He should now be

00:44:31.680 set free, period. Do you think Kia Stormer is the man to lead our country to victory? 0.99

00:44:37.280 No! Not at all. I think that wraps that up. What do you think to Kia Storm and the Labour Party? 0.96

00:44:44.960 Can they steer this country in the right direction? No chance. No. Everybody's lost though. You just

00:44:49.840 gotta look around the street. Do you think we're going to get the mainstream media here today?

00:44:54.080 We'll get some mainstream media here waiting to see a bit of action, but we won't get them here to

00:44:58.960 legitimately report what's going on. It's only you guys that we have to rely on because all they're

00:45:04.480 going to be doing if they are here to catch something that someone's done and then trying to

00:45:08.800 put the whole of the rally under disrepute, which is ridiculous. But you guys are here so we can

00:45:14.800 counter that with actual journalism. How do you feel about him being in solitary confinement?

00:45:20.560 Just terrible. How dare they? For telling the truth, basically. For exposing what's going on. He's been

00:45:31.600 standing for you girls ever since he was young, really. And I admire him greatly. I admire you all.

00:45:42.080 Do you trust the mainstream media? No. Never. I don't watch the mainstream media. I don't watch the telly.

00:45:46.960 Do you watch rebel news? I watch rebel news. I do watch rebel news. Yeah. Fantastic. Absolutely.

00:45:52.240 What does the UK need to improve? I think we need a kind of a Trump-like figure, some kind of a revolution.

00:46:02.400 It's not clear to me where that is going to come from or how that's going to happen.

00:46:08.080 So, so who is the person to lead the country then? Ben Heavy! Ben Heavy!

00:46:13.120 Nix to Codey. Nix to Codey. I just don't think UKIP would get in that's all. I'm upset

00:46:21.680 with what Richard and Nigel Farage have said about our friend. Do you think we have freedom of speech

00:46:27.520 in the uk no what do you think to the mainstream media i think they're disgraceful and that's why

00:46:34.400 we are all here and watching uh what 2ctv and urban scoop and rebel news and thank heavens for

00:46:44.240 them thank heavens for elon musk who has standing with tommy what do you think his mental health

00:46:52.080 is going to be like after you know he comes out of this do you think he's going to be okay

00:46:57.520 tommy will be okay because he has to be okay he's a leader of man and he's the head of his family

00:47:02.880 but he will need to work on himself when he comes out anybody that is subjected to sitting in a lonely

00:47:10.800 room for 23 hours a day every day in solitary confinement with only your mind to keep you

00:47:15.520 company uh that that takes its toll on your mental health so he will need sadly he will need a bit of

00:47:22.080 therapy a bit of counseling and he'll need to rebuild himself brick by brick but he will do

00:47:27.840 it because he's got the love and support of close friends and family members and he's also got

00:47:33.600 thousands of people you know not just around the uk but around the world that support him elon musk has

00:47:39.120 been you know very favorable about him he's paying his legal costs as well which is a good thing it's

00:47:45.440 phenomenal that elon musk a has given him the platform so he can there's a counterbalance now

00:47:52.160 so when there's lies printed about tommy elon musk has said well actually let's hear the right to reply

00:47:58.000 and once people have then read tommy's rights to reply the whole dynamic changes the whole perspective

00:48:04.000 of tommy robinson changes because they can see that there's lie after lie printed

00:48:08.160 and every single one can be proven that it's a lie so we really do owe elon musk like a hell of a lot

00:48:15.840 a for platforming tommy again because that's just changed the game completely but the general public

00:48:20.560 know that they have been lied to and misled it's a complete and utter insult and also the fact that

00:48:25.600 he's getting behind him financially and publicly even to the point he's denouncing people like nigel 1.00

00:48:30.800 farage what do you think to um mp nigel farage he's the leader of the rebound party uh i've i've long

00:48:40.720 time suspected that they might have something on him uh and so and and now i really strongly suspect

00:48:50.160 that because uh he's he's obviously politically switched on and yet twisting the knife into tommy

00:48:56.880 over and over and over his political suicide yeah i feel like he must be being forced to do that

00:49:05.280 because he he could just say hey look you know he's controversial he's not our cup of tea

00:49:12.640 uh he's not in reform anyway you know i mean and then we would still vote for him

00:49:17.760 uh but um now i would never vote for reform ever again i think they're just like tory 2.0

00:49:24.800 more of the same no change what do you make of rupert law he's been very vocal in the last couple of

00:49:30.800 weeks if he could be the leader of reform you keep in my opinion three elections away three elections

00:49:41.440 away i think nixon coney is the future pm but i think he will take three elections with nixon coney what i'll

00:49:49.200 say because the last one it's not what he says you agree with it sometimes his delivery does look a

00:49:56.000 little bit you'd almost imagine a little mustache in time because of the way he's sort of like yeah

00:50:03.440 i get that i get that 100 i'm with you he does do that but but who else who else is pumping their

00:50:11.360 fist and stamping their feet for this country

00:50:13.200 well what do you think of sammy woodhouse she's still a little bit green but i think she's coming

00:50:19.840 along great that's our show for today until tomorrow on behalf of all of us here at rebel

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Rebel News Podcast - February 04, 2025

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trump's strongman tact dashes Trudeau's hopes for a trade war

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