Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trump sends Zelenskyy packing to his European handlers

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. You know what? Christopher Freeland and the globalist left always use a

00:00:06.880 phrase, rules-based international order. Have you ever heard them say that? It sounds like

00:00:13.400 word salad, and I've always ignored it. But today, I want to look at what it really means,

00:00:17.500 because I think it means find a way to box in the United States. I'm going to look at that

00:00:22.980 through the prism of the Zelensky-Trump meeting last week. Anyways, I don't think I introduced

00:00:29.940 it as very exciting, but I'm going to go through a whole bunch of things. What does it mean

00:00:33.880 to be a rules-based international order in 2025, as opposed to being a military superpower like the

00:00:41.520 United States? I really hope you enjoy today's monologue. I worked on it all weekend. I also

00:00:48.220 talked with Ruby Dalla about the latest from the Liberal Party, so make sure you don't miss that

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00:02:25.800 patriots and support our independent journalism. Tonight, Trump the disruptor disrupted something

00:02:33.780 pretty big last week, but what exactly? It's March 3rd, and this is the Ezra LeVance Show.

00:02:39.600 You've got it for freedom. Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:02:54.680 Well, it's official. The official people officially think Donald Trump was officially outrageous in

00:03:01.860 how he treated Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky last week. Here's a short clip of the

00:03:06.980 toughest part of that interaction. Mr. President, Mr. President, with respect,

00:03:10.940 I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front

00:03:14.460 of the American media. Right now, you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front

00:03:19.560 lines because you have manpower problems. You should be thanking the President for trying to bring it

00:03:24.420 into this conflict. Have you ever been to Ukraine that you say what problems we have?

00:03:28.140 I have been to... Come once. I've actually watched and seen the stories, and I know what happens is

00:03:35.480 you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour, Mr. President. Do you disagree that you've

00:03:40.740 had problems bringing people into your military? We have problems. And do you think that it's

00:03:44.760 respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration

00:03:49.680 that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country? A lot of questions. Let's start from the

00:03:55.100 beginning. Sure. First of all, during the war, everybody has problems. Even you. But you have

00:04:00.880 nice ocean. And don't feel now. But you will feel it in the future. God bless. You don't know that.

00:04:07.100 God bless. God bless. You will not have the war. Don't tell us what we're going to feel. We're trying

00:04:12.100 to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're going to feel. I'm not telling you. Because you're in no

00:04:16.440 position to dictate that. Remember this. You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel.

00:04:22.920 We're going to feel very good. You will feel influenced. We're going to feel very good and

00:04:27.420 very strong. You will feel influenced. You're right now not in a very good position. You've

00:04:32.020 allowed yourself to be in a very bad position. And he happens to be right about it. From the very

00:04:36.280 beginning of the war, Mr. President, I was in it. You're not in a good position. You don't have the

00:04:39.940 cards right now. With us, you start having cards. I'm not playing cards. I'm very serious,

00:04:45.080 Mr. President. I'm very serious. You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. You're gambling with

00:04:50.840 World War III. You're gambling with World War III. And what you're doing is very disrespectful

00:04:57.940 to the country, this country. It's back to you. Far more than a lot of people said they should have.

00:05:04.840 Have you said thank you once? A lot of times. No, in this entire meeting, you said thank you.

00:05:09.400 Even today. Even today. You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October.

00:05:14.240 Offer some words of appreciation for the United States of America and the President who's trying

00:05:19.240 to save your country. I won't show you the preceding half hour of the meeting, but if you watch it,

00:05:25.660 you can see how Zelensky repeatedly prickles at Trump and J.D. Vance until they finally take the

00:05:31.360 bait. I didn't know this until afterwards, but this was actually the third meeting where Zelensky

00:05:36.580 was supposed to sign a treaty with America that he refused to do so. Here's the U.S. Treasury

00:05:42.340 Secretary explaining it. President Trump sent me there to, again, we were supposed to bring the

00:05:50.560 Ukrainian people closer to the U.S. people, send a strong signal to Russian leadership that we had

00:05:57.840 not only shared values, but now shared economic interest and also have a strong signal for the

00:06:04.700 American people that their tax dollars were actually going to work. Instead, President Zelensky and I had

00:06:12.360 a very tough 45-minute meeting at a very loud decibel level, and I kept telling him, Mr. President,

00:06:20.800 the purpose of this is to show the Russians there is no daylight between us. And at the end of the 0.99

00:06:27.440 meeting, he said, well, I'm not signing this. I said at the end of the meeting, I said to him,

00:06:32.040 what do you want to go out and tell the press? He said, I said, because I don't want to go out

00:06:36.240 and show the Russians that there's daylight in between us. And he said, well, I'm going to go 0.93

00:06:41.980 out and say I'll sign it in Munich. Then he got to Munich and he ran into Vice President Vance

00:06:47.820 and Secretary Rubio, very different than Vice President Harris and Secretary Blinken,

00:06:53.620 but he didn't sign the agreement. So finally, we were supposed to have the signing today.

00:06:58.220 It was supposed to be a great day. And this is one of the biggest own goals in diplomatic history.

00:07:04.980 After his disastrous meeting with Trump, Zelensky flew to London, where he received a hero's welcome.

00:07:11.600 All of the rest of the NATO leaders and other Europeans were there cheering for him. It was the

00:07:17.740 same online. World leaders were very quick to tweet their support for Zelensky. But what does that

00:07:24.600 mean to say you support Zelensky? What does support mean? I mean, is that too philosophical a question

00:07:32.400 to ask? Trudeau likes to use the word victory when he talks about Ukraine, that Trudeau will be with

00:07:38.660 Ukraine until victory. But what does that mean? I was surprised that the CBC published this video

00:07:44.820 actually talking to Ukrainian troops who say they're just overwhelmed by Russian equipment,

00:07:50.040 but mainly Russian manpower. This is from just a few weeks ago. How are things going? I mean,

00:07:56.040 last time I talked to you, it was three months ago. How was the situation on the front line?

00:08:01.700 For real, I think the situation is not really good for me. We're all tired. We're all tired.

00:08:09.280 We want peace. We lack. We need manpower. We need equipment.

00:08:16.160 The main thing is the abundance of Russian equipment. It's just too much. There's too 1.00

00:08:22.840 many soldiers and stuff. But yet we're holding the line. Somehow we're holding it.

00:08:27.300 To me, this tweet was perfect. It's from the prime minister of Luxembourg. No, I haven't heard of him

00:08:33.500 either. Luxembourg is really just a city of about a million people, but he is a prime minister.

00:08:39.540 And he said this on Twitter. He said, Luxembourg stands with Ukraine. You are fighting for your

00:08:46.060 freedom and a rules-based international order. Here's what I wrote back. I said, I mean, you know,

00:08:52.540 me and the prime minister of Luxembourg, we're pen pals now or something. But here's what I said on

00:08:57.080 Twitter. And this seemed to resonate because 5 million people watched it. I said, Luxembourg has

00:09:03.600 a grand total of 939 people in its army. You have two unarmed helicopters and a cargo plane.

00:09:11.000 That's not a joke. I actually looked it up. I must have hit a nerve with that because millions of

00:09:15.680 people viewed it in a single day. Some people said that wasn't a fair point because Luxembourg is

00:09:21.580 just a city landlocked in Europe. What's the point of having a big army? To which I respond,

00:09:27.140 exactly. It would be like the mayor of Winnipeg tweeting that he stands with Zelensky. You say

00:09:34.160 you stand with Ukraine, but you are actually standing somewhere else. You're not in Ukraine

00:09:39.680 standing with them. As in, you are where they are standing with them, either in Kiev or actually in

00:09:47.500 the battlefield. Obviously not. And if not, you really, are you really standing with them? You say

00:09:53.500 you support them morally. You're giving them some moral support. Okay. But how about actual support?

00:10:00.220 France and the UK have both talked about sending actual troops there. But when pressed, they mean

00:10:05.320 as peacekeepers, as in after the war is already over. Of course, they're sending money. That's a form

00:10:11.920 of support. And they're sending equipment. And there's training the Ukrainians. And all of that has

00:10:18.760 been happening. But Russia has three times the population of Ukraine. It's just overwhelming the 0.99

00:10:25.140 troops. Take a look at this chart here. It shows foreign aid for Ukraine ranked by country. America

00:10:35.400 has given as much as the rest of the world combined. I've seen other charts with slightly different numbers

00:10:41.720 on them. But the gist is the same. This may be a European war, but it's American taxpayers putting

00:10:49.120 the money and equipment on the table. Trump campaigned on ending that. And he is ending it,

00:10:55.520 or trying to. That's distasteful to many people. Because for one thing, when you make a peace treaty,

00:11:01.060 you're generally doing so with someone who has been at war with you. So it's tough to go from

00:11:05.920 calling someone evil incarnate for three years to shaking hands with them and signing agreements with

00:11:12.500 them and ending sanctions on them. But that's how it works in wars. The alternative is, I guess,

00:11:19.160 an unconditional surrender, as Germany and Japan did after the Second World War. That's a war,

00:11:24.640 though, that cost the lives of 15 million soldiers, another 25 million wounded, and probably 45 or 50

00:11:32.700 million civilian deaths. That's the problem with tweeting your support from Luxembourg. You're

00:11:38.760 pretty far away from the front lines where young men are being put through the meat grinder every day.

00:11:45.220 I say young men, but actually the young men are gone now. They're either dead or they fled the country

00:11:51.600 as refugees. The average age, average age of Ukrainian soldiers is now 43 years old. A generation of young

00:11:59.840 Ukrainians have been killed in this war. You know, there's a longstanding meme on social media

00:12:04.560 that claims 80% of boys born in the Soviet Union in 1923 did not survive it through the Second World

00:12:13.020 War. The BBC had a historian fact check that and found it generally accurate, although many of them

00:12:20.520 died from other terrible things besides the war. Did almost 80% of the males born in the Soviet Union in 0.82

00:12:27.160 1923 not survive World War Two? Well, here's Mark Harrison, who got the answer by looking at figures

00:12:34.500 compiled in a book released in 1993 by three Russian demographers. It's not correct. It's somewhat

00:12:40.680 overstated. I think the true figure would be nearer two thirds. Two thirds of this cohort were dead by

00:12:46.500 the time the war was over. I think the only misleading thing about the line on the internet, the deeply

00:12:51.120 misleading thing is it implies that all these people were killed in the war. And that's not the case.

00:12:55.640 This is just a poor country in which lots and lots of babies and young men died anyway. And then of the

00:13:02.060 ones that were left, there was then this extra burden of war casualties. But in fact, the war was not the

00:13:08.600 most important source of mortality between 1923 and 1946. So 8% of the males born in 1923 hadn't died

00:13:17.660 by the end of the war. Two thirds had. That's still a lot of young males dead. Mike Haynes says census data gives the

00:13:25.580 same result. What we mustn't do under any circumstances is diminish the catastrophic nature of the Second World War and the

00:13:31.660 population losses in the Soviet Union. Around about 27 million is the estimate of what's called excess mortality.

00:13:38.080 And there's a margin of error there. And to put that figure into perspective, the margin of error in the Soviet data is

00:13:43.580 probably greater than all the wartime losses in Britain. So that's a measure of how many people died.

00:13:48.780 The point is, it cost an entire generation of Russian men. Just like the civil war in the United States culled an entire

00:13:58.620 generation of young men, particularly in the South. So yeah, you support Ukraine with everything and anything

00:14:05.820 except for actual help. The thing is, many of the complaints about what happened in that White House meeting are

00:14:13.500 compelling. Why Russia is wrong, why Ukraine deserves help. But they're all just stop at the 0.87

00:14:20.780 someone ought to do something point. It's like that fake song in that movie. I don't know if you ever saw it called

00:14:27.100 Forgetting Sarah Marshall. Russell Brand was hilarious in that movie. And he made a fake song in a fake band called

00:14:33.840 We've Got to Do Something. Here, just take a look for a second.

00:14:36.880 We gotta do something. We gotta do something. Before Mother Earth gets any more hurt, we gotta do something.

00:14:52.380 We've gotta do something. It's a really funny song, but here's the outgoing German 1.00

00:15:03.820 foreign minister, Annalena Baerbock. The speech is in German, but there are subtitles. Just FYI,

00:15:10.220 she's part of the Green Party. Those are the eco-peaceniks. You just watch a little bit of this

00:15:16.460 speech by the Green Party cabinet minister in Germany.

00:15:20.400 Viele von Ihnen werden heute Nacht angesichts der unsäglichen Videos aus dem Weißen Haus

00:15:27.080 unruhig geschlafen haben. Ich ehrlich gesagt auch. Leider war das kein schlechter Traum,

00:15:34.840 sondern heftige Realität. Unser Entsetzen ist heute größer als zuvor, aber ebenso unser Commitment für die

00:15:44.560 Menschen in der Ukraine, für unsere eigene Sicherheit und für den Frieden in Europa.

00:15:52.960 Der gestrige Abend hat unterstrichen, eine neue Zeit der Ruchlosigkeit hat begonnen. Eine

00:16:02.480 ruchlose Zeit, in der wir die regelbasierte internationale Ordnung und die Stärke des Rechts

00:16:09.500 mehr denn je gegen die Macht der Stärkeren verteidigen müssen. Denn sonst kann kein freies Land mehr

00:16:17.680 ruhig schlafen, das einen stärkeren Nachbarn hat. Das alles hat sich bereits seit geraumer Zeit

00:16:26.140 abgezeichnet. Und deswegen haben wir seit Längerem an neuen gestärkten Bündnissen mit all denen in der

00:16:34.220 Welt gearbeitet, die bereit sind, weiter für eine regelbasierte internationale Ordnung und die Stärke

00:16:42.040 des Rechts anstatt das Recht des Stärkeren einzustehen. Wir müssen selbst als Europäerinnen und Europäer

00:16:51.200 stärker als jemals zuvor vorangehen und entschlossen für unsere Interessen und das Völkerrecht einstehen,

00:16:58.400 und zwar ohne Wenn und Aber. Für uns ist deshalb klar, wir stehen felsenfest an der Seite der souveränen und

00:17:08.260 freien Ukraine. Die Ukraine ist Teil des freien und demokratischen Europas. Wer in diesem Krieg gegen

00:17:17.740 die Ukraine, brutaler Aggressor und wer mutiger Verteidiger ist, wer hier Täter und wer Opfer ist, das steht 0.93

00:17:27.400 vollkommen außer Frage. Die Welt schaut auf uns, insbesondere in Europa, aber niemand auf der Welt

00:17:36.880 wartet, bis wir hier Verhandlungen in Deutschland abgeschlossen haben. Wir leben in unsicheren Zeiten,

00:17:44.560 meine sehr verehrten Damen und Herren, aber wenn wir in diesen Momenten, in diesen Tagen erneut, wie schon

00:17:51.300 einmal vor drei Jahren, in Deutschland und in Europa die richtigen Weichen stellen, dann wird Europa zeigen,

00:17:58.260 was es im Kern ausmacht. Ein starkes Friedensprojekt, Frieden und Freiheit für seine Millionen Bürgerinnen und

00:18:06.560 Bürger. Ein Friedensprojekt, das in die Welt ausstrahlt. Slava Ukraini, es lebe Europa.

00:18:14.260 So, she's very passionate about Ukraine. And she says, Germany has to do something,

00:18:20.980 as Russell Brown would sing it. She should at least sing it. But how can they do something?

00:18:28.280 Germany hasn't just demilitarized, it's deindustrialized, in no small part because of 0.69

00:18:33.960 the Greens. You know, there are literally 40 U.S. military bases in Germany with about 50,000 U.S.

00:18:40.540 troops over there. Sister, you can't even defend yourselves, but you're ready to go on an adventurous

00:18:46.900 war in Ukraine? Actually, she's not. That's the whole point. She's not. She just wants to do

00:18:52.860 something. I get it. Look, me too. Actually, I don't think another multi-country land war in Central

00:19:01.840 Europe is the answer to pretty much anything in life, but all these really cool Europeans think so.

00:19:06.960 But you can't do that if you've denationalized your countries, if you've demilitarized your

00:19:12.680 entire continent, if you've deracinated your people, if you've removed the motivation for

00:19:17.620 young men to fight for their homeland. There's no industry left in Germany. Well, there is, 0.99

00:19:22.220 but it's shrinking as they decarbonize. There's no military, just a post-national,

00:19:29.620 post-industrial place where they listen to weird music. Here's Nick Kroll having some fun with that.

00:19:35.600 Want to know everything you want to know about coming to Europe? Well, watch this video from

00:19:40.020 the Sportadox Hostel, the coolest hostel in all the countries of Europe.

00:19:46.380 For breakfast, we'll do something cool, like have a cigarette and then like a bar of chocolate.

00:19:51.540 Then we go for work for like one half hour, two half hour. And then we'll go for lunch. And lunch is

00:19:57.240 usually, you know, something cool like a cigarette and like two, three bottles of red wine and then like a

00:20:02.940 bowl of heavy cream. And then dinner, you know, we'll do something healthy, like, you know,

00:20:07.980 four or five sausages and then like a chocolate cigarette. And then we'll invite our cigarette

00:20:12.740 outside to take an espresso and watch the streetlight. And we so much can eat as much as we

00:20:18.260 want and we never get heavy because of olive oil. So that's what we say.

00:20:23.660 So yeah, if you're a Green Party politician or the prime minister of a city called Luxembourg,

00:20:28.480 you do a lot of deep thinking and you may actually be right about Ukraine. But the answer to every 0.97

00:20:34.300 single time you say we've got to do something is, well, you and what army? And that's basically

00:20:42.560 what Trump asked Zelensky, you and what army? You heard that Green politician talk about a rules-based

00:20:48.400 international order. Did you catch that? And look again at that Luxembourgers tweet. He uses that same 0.98

00:20:53.700 language. You are fighting for your freedom and a rules-based international order. That's a phrase

00:20:59.420 Christopher Freeland uses endlessly. It's one of those phrases that sounds very bland. And so you

00:21:04.640 don't really even think about it. I've been hypnotized by that phrase. You know, I remember my friend Terry

00:21:10.980 Corcoran at the Financial Post was always writing, and I'm talking about 20 years ago, about the World

00:21:16.720 Economic Forum in Europe. And I confess, I was so bored by the words World Economic Forum that I never

00:21:22.980 really cared about it until I actually realized that that name was a kind of camouflage to hide what

00:21:27.720 they were doing. Same thing with the phrase rules-based international order. By the way, here's

00:21:33.620 Christopher Freeland talking about the rules-based international order at the World Economic Forum in

00:21:38.620 2019. The rules-based international order today is facing greater challenges than it has at any time

00:21:46.940 since the Second World War, at any time since it was created. And that's very serious. You know, I

00:21:53.940 sometimes scare myself when I say that. But I also think that we are starting to figure out how to

00:22:03.980 navigate this new world. And to, you know, we're starting to figure out ways for the rules-based

00:22:10.460 international order to fight back. She doesn't quite explain what she means there, though, does she?

00:22:15.000 Here she is in a 2017 interview. So this was during Trump's first year in his first term.

00:22:21.400 And I'll tell you what rules-based international order means. It means a bunch of socialists like

00:22:28.580 Chrystia Freeland and a bunch of Euro-socialists, I've discussed already, teaming up to tie down the

00:22:36.320 United States like Gulliver in Lilliput. Rules-based means using the United Nations and other multilateral

00:22:43.620 clubs to tell America what to do and what not to do. Not using the hard power of money and military

00:22:50.280 might, but the soft power of lawyers and journalists and bureaucrats and USAID and the World Economic

00:22:57.340 Forum and all sorts of other NGOs. Rules-based international order means making rules to stop

00:23:03.960 America, never to stop China. 0.75

00:23:05.780 We are at a time and a place when international institutions need to be reinvented and renewed.

00:23:13.280 And I argued today, and I believe so strongly, we need to double down on that international

00:23:19.980 rules-based order. And doing that is the best way. I believe it is the only way to ensure safety and

00:23:28.220 security for Canadians. There are only 36 million Canadians. A Fortress Canada approach is not going

00:23:34.580 to be an approach that will maintain our prosperity or our safety.

00:23:38.460 So you talked a lot about America today. Are you saying we need to go it alone and put some

00:23:43.100 separation between our foreign policy and America's foreign policy? You referenced it a lot in your

00:23:48.620 speech today. What exactly are you saying about Canada's role now?

00:23:52.480 My central conviction is about Canada committing to, recommitting to, building our leadership in

00:24:03.900 our multilateral alliances. Having said that, we also need to be honest with ourselves and with

00:24:11.420 Canadians. And we need to be honest about the fact that the election in the United States last fall,

00:24:17.560 for many Americans, was an expression of a weariness with the burdens of global leadership.

00:24:26.320 You said they're questioning global leadership. Exactly.

00:24:28.500 So if they're questioning global leadership, you're saying we have to take a sovereign,

00:24:33.780 almost a sovereign approach.

00:24:35.300 We have to appreciate that we as Canadians, our country, a middle power, is a huge beneficiary of

00:24:45.260 this international rules-based order. And we have to step up.

00:24:49.760 So let me explain. The rules-based international order, in case you're wondering, is a system or a

00:24:54.440 scheme or an ideology or a plan whose purpose is to let poor, weak, socialist countries box in the

00:25:01.660 United States. The rules-based international order is what Europe has just used for the past three

00:25:07.480 years to convince the mentally frail U.S. president, or whoever his deep state handlers were, to give 0.60

00:25:14.820 more than $100 billion to a war that Europe claims to care about, but doesn't really care about when

00:25:20.140 measured by anything real, like blood or treasure. A rules-based international order is how countries

00:25:26.240 convince or try to convince the United States to de-industrialize by adopting the global warming

00:25:31.600 cult and carbon taxes. A rules-based international order is how the United Nations is weaponized

00:25:37.620 mainly against America, but also against America's allies like Israel. A rules-based international 0.60

00:25:43.880 order is how you get insane things like a plastics registry championed by Canada.

00:25:51.260 You know what this reminds me of? The most European American there is, John Kerry. You know who I'm

00:25:56.680 talking about? Former senator, most recently Joe Biden's global warming ambassador. We keep bumping

00:26:03.040 into him naturally at the World Economic Forum in Davos, and we always ask him about his private

00:26:08.960 jets, and he just can't give them up. Secretary Kerry, do you think that the high price of natural gas

00:26:15.720 is actually a helpful thing to get people to transition to a green economy? I'd love to talk about it,

00:26:23.400 but I just can't do it on the run. How can you justify being here when you yourself take private jets?

00:26:29.080 Can you answer that? But you've taken a private jet before, no, but you've taken a private jet before to

00:26:34.620 collect the climate change award. You have done that. I fly commercial exclusively. Can I ask you,

00:26:40.880 did you fly commercial to get here? Partway, yes. Partway, and then what? What do you mean,

00:26:48.520 then what? Well, you're an advocate against climate change. Excuse me. Thank you very much.

00:26:58.120 Mr. Kerry, we got interrupted last. Quick question. Why are you actually here now when you're not in any

00:27:04.060 professional? I'm sorry, sir. No question. That's okay. He can talk for himself. You're in the private

00:27:08.740 sector now? Sure. And you told us that you part flew here privately. We're not. That's how you get

00:27:15.700 here. No, no, but you told me. Last year you got very upset that we implied that you took private

00:27:20.200 jets. Yesterday you told us that you. I'm not going to waste my time with you. You said you part

00:27:24.880 traveled. What part did you travel here privately? Thank you, sir. I'm sorry. Is it now worth it?

00:27:30.760 Is it now worth it in the private sector? Is your carbon footprint worth it now? I'm sorry, sir. We're not

00:27:35.040 doing any energy. Flying, obviously, private jets. We ask him about his private jets every year,

00:27:39.660 and he sort of answers us every year. And his answer is pretty much the same. And it's actually

00:27:45.060 an honest answer. He says, look, I'm important and I'm busy. And so that justifies using a private jet

00:27:51.100 with all its carbon emissions. As in, he says he really, really does care about the world's

00:27:56.340 environment. But in the case of himself, it's more important that he fly to another meeting than save

00:28:01.920 100 tons of carbon or whatever. He admits it's a contradiction, but he makes the choice. And surprise,

00:28:07.920 surprise, he chooses the private jet. So he believes in what he's saying, just not to the

00:28:13.440 point of actually having to inconvenience himself. Just like the foreign minister of Germany. She's a

00:28:19.520 deeply believing and deeply feeling woman. She's a member of the Green Party with everything that

00:28:25.960 entails. She wants an army for righteous moments like this, but she'd prefer it if it were the American 0.96

00:28:31.780 army or at least the Ukrainian army using American weapons. Does she really want an army 0.88

00:28:37.340 in Germany? Now, that's a dangerous question, I suppose. But like Kaya Callas, the foreign minister

00:28:43.260 of the European Union, I think she really just wants to do some role playing, some live action

00:28:50.040 role playing to play pretend, sort of like dress up. It's sort of like those Civil War reenactors,

00:28:58.160 those hobbyists in the U.S. who pretend they're soldiers in the Civil War. I think that's what all

00:29:03.380 these European politicians are like. So you've got every soft power, rules-based international order

00:29:09.960 who wants the hard power of the United States, but only in ways that they approve of. So when Donald

00:29:17.260 Trump wants a minerals deal out of Ukraine, they're appalled. Except you can't build a modern 0.99

00:29:24.220 industrial economy without minerals. And don't they realize this puts American and American interest

00:29:29.980 in Ukraine? Something that Putin would be very reluctant to shoot at as compared to the first

00:29:35.780 Luxembourg Brigade. Give me 30 seconds. Let me show you a video released by the Norwegian army. Now,

00:29:43.800 they're good people in Norway. I don't have a hard word to say about them, but seriously, feast your eyes

00:29:49.300 on this.

00:30:19.300 Now, I show you that because I have some news out of Norway. Maybe you saw it over the weekend.

00:30:27.380 A refueling company based in Norway says it will no longer refuel U.S. Navy ships patrolling near

00:30:36.120 Norway. They said this is because of how Trump handled Zelensky. Got it. But help me understand,

00:30:43.820 why is the U.S. Navy patrolling the seas near Norway in the first place? Apparently, it was this ship,

00:30:50.820 the USS Delaware, a nuclear-powered attack submarine that was looking for diesel fuel to back up for its

00:30:59.600 backup generator. It's a nuclear-powered sub, but it also has a diesel generator. Now, I'm skeptical of

00:31:04.640 the story. By the way, it feels like some social media activist used the Facebook account of this

00:31:10.160 company to make a personal statement, but it's plausible that he spoke for the company.

00:31:15.180 But here's what the USS Delaware looks like. I mean, it's just an awesome ship. I did some poking

00:31:22.220 around. It's a couple of photos of it. It's pretty huge. Look at the size of the people on the top of

00:31:28.120 it for scale. These are fast attack submarines. They cost more than $4 billion each just to build them.

00:31:36.380 And then there's the massive cost to arm them and operate them and crew them and maintain them.

00:31:44.560 They have a crew of 134 people. They're huge. They really move fast. Imagine that thing going 50

00:31:50.180 kilometers an hour. It's only about five years old, this ship. It's probably the most advanced

00:31:54.920 attack submarine in the world. But like I say, what were they doing in Norway? I mean, why was it there?

00:32:02.040 Why wasn't it protecting the United States, which is paying for it? Oh, this is why. The entire

00:32:09.440 Norwegian budget is about $15 billion U.S. a year. They can't afford to buy and then operate even a

00:32:18.120 single nuclear attack sub like this. Now, they do have six baby subs. Well, they're babies in size.

00:32:25.500 Here's a picture of two of them next to each other. But they're not babies in age. They were delivered

00:32:31.220 in the 1980s. So they're in their 40s. They're older than most of the crews sailing them. They're

00:32:38.020 small. They just take 21 crew. Now, they're not nothing. And that's more than Canada can do,

00:32:44.680 by the way. We allegedly have four submarines, but generally they don't work. In the whole year of 2019,

00:32:50.840 for example, all four Canadian submarines, they were in port being repaired or they just didn't

00:32:58.240 sail. But can you guess why the Americans were sailing around Norway? And it's not just

00:33:06.960 submarines. Here's a U.S. aircraft carrier recently sailing by Norway too. What's it doing in Norway?

00:33:13.760 Norway? Well, if you guessed, the answer is because Norway, like the rest of the free world,

00:33:21.660 really can't defend itself. That's the answer. They've made a choice not to defend themselves.

00:33:31.020 That's why the United States has 40 bases in Germany. That's why the United States is a nuclear 0.96

00:33:36.060 powered sub in Norway, has a nuclear powered aircraft carrier in Norway. Norway is very rich,

00:33:41.440 by the way. That's why Chrystia Freeland and the rest of the world's nagging Marxists lament the

00:33:47.860 end of the rules-based international order. Because to them, that means they get to be on par with the

00:33:54.020 Donald Trumps and Pete Hegseths of the world. They get to have as much say as the J.D. Vances and the

00:34:00.060 Marco Rubios. Why? Because of rules. But the rules didn't protect Ukraine, did they? American money and

00:34:07.140 weapons did. And Trump wants to end that war. Maybe you'll disagree with the exact way that

00:34:12.260 happens. Maybe you disagree with peace at all. Trump said it on Friday, Zelensky has no cards to play and

00:34:18.200 everyone can see that. So if you want a rules-based international order, you've got to do what Teddy

00:34:24.500 Roosevelt said about 120 years ago. You should walk softly and carry a big stick. Sometimes people

00:34:32.980 listen to America and Donald Trump because they make intellectually persuasive arguments.

00:34:38.640 Sometimes people listen to America because they make appealing commercial arguments.

00:34:44.400 But at the end of the day, America calls the shots because American taxpayers and American soldiers

00:34:49.600 have a good answer to that question. We've got to do something. They have an answer for the

00:34:57.360 something. And they have an answer to the question, you and what army? Joe Biden and his nurses or whoever

00:35:05.480 was running the show agreed with the weak world powers around the world who wanted to milk America for 0.87

00:35:12.620 all it had. Trump's going in a different direction and he campaigned on that. Now that doesn't mean

00:35:18.080 there's no role for Chrystia Freeland and a hundred other pundits like Kaya Callas and that Luxembourg 1.00

00:35:25.040 guy. Their role is to tweet, I guess. I mean, they could re-industrialize and re-militarize,

00:35:34.720 but that's too yucky and nationalistic and fascistic for them. So for now, I guess they'll just sort of

00:35:41.680 watch from the stands and heckle. By the way, I haven't said a lot about Canada today because no one is

00:35:49.660 really paying any attention to Justin Trudeau or our foreign minister, Melanie Jolie, but you can

00:35:55.700 expect Prime Minister Mark Carney to be the absolute worst in the world at this soft power stuff. He was

00:36:02.760 the original ESG, Environmental Social Governance Corporate Soft Power Oligarch. Boy, we are cruising

00:36:10.080 for a bruising here in Canada too. Stay with us for more.

00:36:26.260 Well, anyone who watched the two liberal leadership contest debates, I wouldn't even call them debates,

00:36:32.920 they were more like Me Too-a-thons. Well, you can figure out why they blocked Dr. Ruby Dalla

00:36:38.940 from being a candidate. By the way, they didn't block her until after she lodged her $350,000

00:36:45.780 entry fee into the race. The answer, in case you weren't watching those two debates, is that there

00:36:51.940 weren't actually debates. It felt like there was a kind of collusion going on that all four of the

00:36:58.200 remaining candidates had pretty much decided that Mark Carney was going to run away with it. So instead of

00:37:03.700 taking pot shots at him or, to phrase it another way, asking critical questions or challenging Carney

00:37:09.820 as the front runner, they all seemed to submit their resumes and apply for a cabinet position.

00:37:15.920 There were no sparks because that wouldn't suit. It was all about getting Mark Carney through this

00:37:22.160 entire process with as little scrutiny as possible. Well, the woman who they blocked has not been

00:37:29.080 stopped from talking about it. Joining us now to catch up on things is Ruby Dalla. Great to see 0.99

00:37:35.980 you again. Thanks for taking the time with us. Thank you so much. It's a pleasure to be back again.

00:37:41.220 Now, tell me what you thought of the debates. I'm sure you watched them. My number one reaction is

00:37:47.940 they weren't actually debates. It was like a controlled, managed conversation amongst friends and allies.

00:37:55.620 That was no debate. Well, I would certainly agree with you on that. It was actually more of a family

00:38:02.080 group chat, you know, that one would have within their family and having a discussion. It was very

00:38:08.100 clear after seeing some clips of that debate of why the Liberal Party of Canada did not want to have me

00:38:14.220 on that debate stage. You know, from the get go, I had spoken about wanting to bring the party back to

00:38:19.520 the centre about returning the party membership back into the hands of the grassroots of this country.

00:38:24.440 And most importantly, about talking about progressive policy ideas that I felt were the

00:38:29.080 need of the hour. And after watching that family group chat, I can tell you that I was very happy

00:38:35.740 that Canadians actually had a chance to hear about policy and about the vision and about the future

00:38:41.780 of our country with the simultaneous debate that I had with a very well-known TikTok, you know,

00:38:48.780 influencer with millions and millions of likes, you know, on his posts. But both him and myself,

00:38:55.080 we hosted something in collaboration for the debate called The Real Debate. And what was really,

00:39:00.120 really interesting is that the highest, I think, online viewership that the party and the CBC received

00:39:07.320 was 8,000. And we actually had 50,000 people, you know, that were watching us throughout our debate.

00:39:14.080 So it was very clear that Canadians wanted to hear about policies. They wanted a real debate,

00:39:21.500 you know, and where you actually have opposing views and certainly not having a friendly group chat.

00:39:27.720 Yeah. And I think that Canadians felt, especially Canadians who were liberals, and of course,

00:39:32.620 I myself, I'm not a liberal. But if I were a liberal, I would want to make up the choice for myself. I wouldn't

00:39:39.380 want a secretive committee of party insiders determining who I could or couldn't vote for.

00:39:45.080 I would want to inspect the merchandise of all the different candidates, kick the tires, to use

00:39:50.560 another metaphor. And I would want to be the decider. It feels a little bit too controlled. Now, let me

00:39:55.920 ask you, I know you appealed your decertification to an internal party appeal process. And again, from what I

00:40:04.720 heard, this was a secretive process, not done in public, not done with scrutiny. I suppose that

00:40:10.940 marks the end of the road internally. Thinking as a former lawyer, I know you could try and have the

00:40:18.160 courts judicially review it. That's probably a long shot. Courts would probably grant a lot of

00:40:23.760 deference to the Liberal Party. Is there any more legal moves you can, are there any more legal moves

00:40:30.240 you could make? Or are you just going to be a journalistic critic now? Are you going to try and

00:40:35.580 get back in? Or has that ship sailed? You know, it was very unfortunate what happened. And, you know,

00:40:41.940 as you shared that this, you know, disqualification of Ruby Dalla, it certainly, you know, engaged Canadians

00:40:50.160 from all political stripes from all over the country. And I and my team, you know, and supporters were

00:40:57.160 really, really shocked that 5.8 million people engaged on Twitter alone on 96 hours after the

00:41:06.220 disqualification on Instagram, we had 4.8 million people engaged, because people clearly saw this

00:41:12.500 disqualification for what it was, it was an attack on democracy. It was an attack on fairness and attack

00:41:18.300 on justice in our country. We live in a first world country where democracy is a foundation of,

00:41:24.360 you know, our country and the very people that we are. So to take away that opportunity for people

00:41:30.840 to vote, to take away the opportunity for people to have that choice, you know, in itself is something

00:41:36.340 that just makes you scratch their head for a party that was preaching about democracy and preaching

00:41:41.860 about being the Liberal Party of Canada. It certainly was not very liberal when they have a track record

00:41:48.480 now of kicking out smart, successful, intelligent women that have a voice. You take a look at Dr. 1.00

00:41:55.260 Jane Philpaw, you take a look at Jodi Wilson-Raybaud, you take a look at Selena, all of these people have

00:42:00.620 women, you know, smart and successful and intelligent have all been kicked out by the party. I was also the 0.99

00:42:06.460 second candidate, you know, to be disqualified from the immigrant community, from the South Asian

00:42:11.480 community in particular, even though I was born and raised in Canada. And for what? Because I was there to

00:42:17.440 challenge the status quo and to challenge the establishment. You know, when we talk about the

00:42:22.760 debate in particular, I mean, whoever wins and the establishment wants Mark Carney to win,

00:42:28.520 how is he going to go up on that debate stage and debate Pierre Paulyevre? How is he going to go up

00:42:33.900 and actually have a debate with other Canadians who want to talk about the future of our country?

00:42:40.000 Yet the establishment was scared to have Ruby Dalla up on stage debating Mark Carney. It just, it's all

00:42:46.140 very, very puzzling and very bizarre to say the least. And then to come up with, you know, fabricated

00:42:51.660 allegations hours after they received $350,000. So in terms of, you know, what you've mentioned,

00:43:00.620 where do we go from here? You're a lawyer. So we're actually, you know, you'll appreciate that

00:43:05.420 the lawyers are actually taking a look to see what windows, you know, exist in terms of pursuing

00:43:11.900 this further, especially for the $350,000, which was given actually by hardworking Canadians. And

00:43:19.140 they want the Liberal Party of Canada to do the honourable thing, to do the ethical thing and have

00:43:24.300 that money returned to those hardworking Canadians that donated for the vision that I had for the

00:43:29.900 party and for the country. Now, you mentioned that it was the party, some party agency, I don't know,

00:43:37.540 some committee that booted you out. Have you had any communication from any of the four candidates

00:43:45.460 or any MPs or anyone, just, and I'm not asking you to name them, but has anyone from within the party

00:43:52.680 reached out to you and say, you know, this isn't right, or I wish you hadn't been kicked out? Like,

00:43:58.620 have you had, are there other friendlies within the party who are saying what you've just said,

00:44:04.020 this isn't the right way to do it, it looks like censorship and cancel culture, or are they sort

00:44:09.620 of, have they all made their peace with the fact that Carney's their new king?

00:44:15.280 Well, I think one thing's very clear that I was certainly not in this leadership race to

00:44:20.000 get a job or to apply for a job. I was there, you know, for my lifelong commitment that I've had

00:44:25.900 to public service to our party and to our country. And like you said, this friendly group chat was

00:44:31.280 sort of everyone wanting to see which job they can get out of this. And, you know, when they were all,

00:44:36.340 I would say, appeasing Mark Carney, who they perceive as, you know, the front runner that the

00:44:41.580 establishment wants to become the leader. So I think that it really changes the dynamics. None of the four

00:44:47.220 candidates reached out, but many, many MPs, you know, did reach out and felt what was done by,

00:44:53.860 you know, the Liberal Party establishment was unfair, it was unjust. And as one MP put it,

00:44:58.880 this is certainly not very liberal at all for the Liberal Party to be carrying out, you know,

00:45:03.720 these types of issues. And even more than the many Liberals that reached out, there were also

00:45:10.300 so many Canadians, some who are politically aligned with other political parties, other people that are

00:45:15.860 not politically involved, other people that are politically homeless, but just people who really

00:45:19.800 believe in democracy and fairness. And they saw what happened. I mean, I learned of my disqualification

00:45:24.760 while I was live on television. Guess with you, with CBC, you know, so for someone that was running

00:45:30.960 for the leadership of the Liberal Party, for someone that is running to be Prime Minister of the country,

00:45:35.580 for a party establishment to inform me in that manner, I think that a lot of Canadians just felt that

00:45:41.680 that was just plain wrong and something that was unacceptable, you know, by the Liberal Party.

00:45:47.580 When we spoke nine days ago, you mentioned the fact that both Chrystia Freeland and Mark Carney

00:45:54.400 had been directors of the World Economic Forum. Now, that's not something that most people in

00:46:00.160 mainstream media or mainstream politics know about or talk about. And it's sort of a can of worms. We

00:46:05.400 cover the World Economic Forum every year. We fly over there and try and ask questions of the VVIPs. 1.00

00:46:10.860 So I know exactly what you mean. That's the kind of question that makes the mainstream media really

00:46:16.100 uncomfortable. And I think that's exactly the kind of thing they were trying to stop you

00:46:21.640 from injecting into the debate. So here's my question about that. I know that when you talk

00:46:27.620 to us, you talk to other citizen journalists too, other YouTubers. You mentioned the big TikTok

00:46:33.540 influencer you were with on debate night. And that doesn't surprise me that people who are sort of

00:46:40.280 skeptical citizen journalists would want to hear what you have to say. But let me ask you this.

00:46:45.160 How have you been treated in the last 10 days by what we call the mainstream media, by the CBC,

00:46:51.940 CTV, Global, by the Globe and Mail, by the Toronto Star, really the big guys?

00:46:58.060 Have they been open-minded towards you? Have they given you a fair hearing? Or have they frozen you out

00:47:04.420 because they don't want to talk about prickly things like the World Economic Forum or whatever also?

00:47:11.740 Well, we're actually going to need your help on this one because I can tell you a rebel news

00:47:16.020 because we, you know, we're looking through some of the various interviews that were being done

00:47:22.160 of the liberal talking heads. And one of the best analogies that this liberal talking head came up

00:47:30.660 with on CBC News about the reason for my disqualification was, well, Ruby was discussing

00:47:37.660 the World Economic Forum. And this is a bizarre conspiracy theory. Like the whole thing just,

00:47:44.800 you know, makes you scratch your head that if the liberal talking head could have this as the best

00:47:50.240 reason possible for having Ruby Dalla disqualified because she's talking about the World Economic 1.00

00:47:56.040 Forum, which they deem to be a conspiracy theory, I was just sitting back and thinking, this is all

00:48:01.220 fact. You know, I haven't been a part of the World Economic Forum. And if you have these group of

00:48:05.880 individuals that have been and are, it should be of no basis to have me disqualified because I was here

00:48:11.540 talking and focusing on the issues. I never personally attacked any, you know, candidate that was running.

00:48:17.320 I never personally attacked any individual. I was focused on talking about issues and policies,

00:48:22.740 which are the need of, you know, the hour. So that was, you know, the sentiment that was being

00:48:29.080 expressed by them. Then when it comes to mainstream media, I mean, CBC, just everything from the language

00:48:35.460 that was used by CBC right now, right to them finding out about my disqualification, you know,

00:48:42.100 before I found out who was the candidate, that was very strange. But afterwards, you know,

00:48:47.320 you take a look at the Toronto Sun, you take a look at the National Post in particular, and even

00:48:53.220 CP24, they have all come out, you know, showing my side of the story. And see, I think it was a

00:49:00.060 Toronto Sun, Brian Lilly, called some of the allegations laughable. The National Post came out with an

00:49:05.860 article basically stating why the Liberal Party of Canada saw Ruby Della as a threat to Mark Carney's

00:49:12.300 coronation, and hence the reason. So some of the mainstream channels, I think, have really taken

00:49:16.880 a step back and taken a look at this and say that it was very evident that they wanted to have me off

00:49:23.340 of the debate stage, off of the ballot and complete the coronation of Mark Carney. And I think that those

00:49:28.800 media outlets all agree that this was unjust. But I think that's stemming from seeing the overwhelming

00:49:34.240 response of citizens, people who are, you know, may or may not be affiliated with a political party,

00:49:40.340 or maybe politically homeless, or maybe very, you know, pro-liberal or anti-liberal or pro-conservative,

00:49:46.140 or, you know, not with another political party, I think it stems from the fact that this was just

00:49:50.840 something that was an attack on democracy in our country, something that was completely an attack

00:49:55.580 on fairness and justice. And people actually lost the right to cast their vote, to make a choice of who

00:50:02.900 they want as a liberal leader and as Canada's future prime minister. I had signed up thousands

00:50:09.760 and thousands of membership across the country. All of those people were left without the opportunity

00:50:14.980 to be able to vote for me. And those donors that gave $350,000 for the vision, that believing in

00:50:22.520 the vision that I had for the country, that I had for the party, they're all out of pocket with this

00:50:27.580 money. And that's why the Liberal Party needs to do the right thing and return that money to those

00:50:31.940 donors. Yeah. Just really quickly on the World Economic Forum, I don't want to spend too much

00:50:36.220 time on it, but I mean, it is a real thing. It meets every January in Davos, Switzerland. Now,

00:50:41.480 I'm sure there are false rumors about it, but it is not a rumor that both Chrystia Freeland and Mark

00:50:48.760 Carney were on the board. In fact, we've interviewed Mark Carney every year at the World Economic Forum

00:50:55.140 when we're walking on the streets. Here's a quick clip of me scrumming him last year on the streets

00:51:00.220 of Davos. He actually was sort of friendly. Here, take a look. Talk to a Canuck. Talk to him. Great. Nice to

00:51:06.500 see you. But seriously, he needs help. He's down 20 points. He has a gender gap. Women are choosing 1.00

00:51:12.840 conservatives more than liberals. I don't remember the last time that happened. What advice would you

00:51:17.620 have for the youngster? Going to a central banker for political advice is never a good idea. Come on.

00:51:24.180 We know that you're in the line. I heard you had a meeting the other day with the prime minister in

00:51:29.600 Ottawa. Is that correct? I see the prime minister from time to time. In what capacity, may I ask?

00:51:35.560 I, well, I do a lot of work on climate, as you know. I'm sure a big fan of that.

00:51:42.520 Do you ever register as a lobbyist or is it just friendship?

00:51:46.600 Sorry, I don't. When you meet with the PM on climate,

00:51:50.060 are you there on your own behalf or are you there on behalf of a company lobbyist?

00:51:53.260 I am the UN special envoy on climate action and finance.

00:51:58.500 And what do you make it so bitter cold in Canada, down to minus 40s?

00:52:02.260 Back home in Alberta, it was minus 40. And Gilboa was saying, go to electric cars.

00:52:07.220 That doesn't work. Well, you've got to have, watch out, you've got to have the full,

00:52:12.420 you've got to have full capacity, right? And you've got to have, you've got to, you know,

00:52:17.320 one of the things we're going to need to do in Canada, across Canada, and this is, you know,

00:52:23.540 for the benefit of jobs in the country is, is build out the grid. You can't switch before you

00:52:28.340 build it out. Number one. Number two, one of the things you need, regardless of the

00:52:33.520 form of energy you have, we have, is, is also to have what's called a capacity market alongside

00:52:42.260 the electricity market.

00:52:44.680 So you think that Gilboa's plan is a little bit hasty since we haven't done those foundational

00:52:48.320 things?

00:52:48.780 Well, I think what's important is that, you know, whether it's in Alberta, Ontario, Canada,

00:52:55.360 Australia, for that matter, is that you have to, yeah, you have to build, you have to build.

00:53:00.780 And it's a, it's a time to build. And look, we're in a position where we in Canada are in a position

00:53:08.460 where we have been an energy superpower. We can continue to be an energy superpower.

00:53:14.720 We've always, we've always had the ability to develop new sources of energy.

00:53:22.100 But the PM said there was no market for natural gas. How do you feel about natural gas, especially

00:53:26.080 to relieve Ukraine and other Europeans from Russian gas? How come they're buying Russian

00:53:31.860 gas and Qatari gas, but Justin Trudeau won't let them buy Canadian gas?

00:53:36.000 Well, we would have to get to build the trains in order to do the, what are called LNG trains

00:53:42.000 in order to get the gas to them? Well, God, this is a long interview, isn't it?

00:53:45.680 I'm enjoying it and I'm, and I'm doing my best to be fair and friendly.

00:53:49.660 If this was Canada, you could have him arrested.

00:53:53.320 Did you see that? Your rival, Christy Freeland, had one of our reporters arrested.

00:53:57.380 I don't think she did. I think she didn't say a word against it.

00:53:59.860 On the incident, as you guys know very well, Canada is a rule of law country. Canada is

00:54:12.700 a democracy. Operational decisions about law enforcement are taken by the police of jurisdiction.

00:54:20.200 Quite appropriately, elected officials have no role in the taking of those decisions. And that's

00:54:29.760 why I don't have any further comment. It was the wrong thing. It was absolutely the wrong thing.

00:54:34.400 Thank you for saying that. Look, freedom of the press. I've been a public figure in Canada,

00:54:43.020 been a public figure in the UK. I know you got to answer tough questions and you guys,

00:54:46.380 you know, you asked tough questions and that's fair. Well, I want to thank you for saying that

00:54:50.040 because I have to say, Christy Freeland has not yet said anything in the, in the vein that you have.

00:54:55.620 She's been happy to let the cops do her work for her. And if she disagrees with the cops,

00:54:59.720 she hasn't said so. Well, I said what I said. So, but look, the questions you were asking earlier

00:55:06.520 about energy and I'm going to have to. Thanks for your time. I really appreciate it.

00:55:10.940 So that clip shows, I mean, it's, he, he's there every year. Like it's Mark Carney's

00:55:24.280 real stomping grounds. And Chris, you're feeling, I, it's really weird to me.

00:55:28.340 The real question is if you're going to get a clip done this year.

00:55:31.300 Yeah. Well, he wasn't, neither of them went this year. Both of them stayed home because of the

00:55:35.680 liberal leadership contest. Let me ask you one last question. I'm, I sure appreciate you spending so

00:55:39.960 much time with us. Let's say that there's no more legal avenues to, to go down. I, I'm guessing

00:55:48.660 that a court would be reluctant to overturn the deal here. I mean, it's, it has happened before.

00:55:53.460 I've seen it in other parties. There have been some courts intervening, but I don't know if they'll

00:55:58.580 do that here. And certainly I don't know if they'll do it quick enough. So let's say that the state of

00:56:04.300 affairs continues as it is. You were kicked out. You can't get back in. And as I think will happen,

00:56:10.520 Mark Carney is, has a coronation. What are your plans? Are you going to continue to speak as a

00:56:17.560 journalist, like a, as an, like a pundit? Are you going to run in some form? Are you still figuring

00:56:25.740 that out? What do you, I mean, I, I enjoy talking with you. It's very interesting, but what are you

00:56:30.880 going to do, let's say a month from now or in the heart of a campaign? Have you thought it through?

00:56:37.140 To be very honest and transparent with you, there has been a lot of suggestions and advice and

00:56:42.880 everything happened very quickly. I had gone in, you know, into the race to win it. I did not

00:56:48.100 imagine that me questioning the status quo or questioning the establishment or even talking

00:56:53.140 about progressive policy ideas would result in the liberal party having, you know, their egos and

00:56:59.320 the establishment so bruised that they would, you know, have me disqualified. So I'm going to take

00:57:04.260 some time just to think about next steps. I have dedicated my life to the liberal party of Canada,

00:57:09.800 but it certainly did not turn out to be very liberal after all. So I'm going to be in the coming days

00:57:14.960 taking a little bit more time to reflect as to the next steps. And hopefully we'll share those with

00:57:21.420 you once they find and they have been finalized. Well, I should tell you that our petition at

00:57:26.200 draftruby.com has almost 5,000 signatures on it. I'll send it over to you. So there's a lot of

00:57:32.620 people who want to see you do something, whether that's run as an independent, maybe even look at

00:57:38.380 other parties that might be more welcoming. I mean, I think that some of our viewers are quite

00:57:43.620 conservative, but I think they can spot someone who is an independent thinker, is a critical thinker,

00:57:51.260 who is open-minded, who believes in democracy. And I think those are important values,

00:57:56.120 whether you're left-wing or right-wing. So I think you embody some of that public spirit. And I think

00:58:01.240 you've impressed a lot of people. I've enjoyed talking with you and I hope we'll keep in touch

00:58:04.960 over the next few months because it's going to be very intense news times. And I know you'll have

00:58:10.560 something to say. I hope we can keep talking to you from time to time.

00:58:13.300 Yes. Thank you so much once again. And I just want to say thank you to all of your

00:58:17.820 listeners and your audience for reaching out. We're sending so many messages of support.

00:58:22.200 And I want everyone to know that this was really about a movement. And it became a moment of sort

00:58:27.260 of truth of, you know, showing that when you do question the establishment or you ever speak out

00:58:32.780 and bruise anyone's egos or you challenge the status quo, that there are people that are going to

00:58:38.100 attack the democracy. And I think that because so many Canadians and so many, you know, people just 0.98

00:58:44.080 spoke out and engaged, that Canadians will not allow any political institution in our country

00:58:49.480 to attack democracy, to attack our values of fairness and justice. And regardless of which direction and

00:58:55.800 which path I move forward in, I will always stand with all Canadians in this fight for democracy,

00:59:02.000 fairness and justice and speaking the truth.

00:59:04.220 All right. There you have it, Dr. Ruby Dalla. You can sign our petition

00:59:07.440 at draftruby.com. Stay with us. More ahead.

00:59:24.460 Hey, you know what? I was in the Wall Street Journal the other day. Did I tell you that?

00:59:28.580 It's quite a prestigious newspaper, if I do say so myself. It's a very old newspaper. It's one of the

00:59:33.660 largest newspapers in America. I think it's the second largest. And it's prestigious, especially

00:59:39.540 as a business paper. Anyways, they published an op-ed by me about tariffs and how my view is that

00:59:46.880 Donald Trump should not punish all of Canada just to get at Justin Trudeau. In fact, it's not a very

00:59:52.780 America first thing to do to push away Canadian oil. He should pull more Canadian oil to displace 0.53

00:59:58.100 conflict. So I was very proud, frankly, to be published in the Wall Street Journal. And it felt

01:00:04.840 like I overcame some cancel culture. Not that they were ever bad at it, but it felt, you know,

01:00:09.460 prestigious for me. And then Jordan Peterson had me on his show for an hour and a half. Did you see

01:00:15.320 that? I was sort of excited. And not that Jordan Peterson is a cancel culture guy at all. Quite the

01:00:21.980 opposite. He's someone the left tried to cancel. But I felt like both Jordan Peterson and the Wall

01:00:28.100 Street Journal within a week felt like the world wanted to hear what Rebel News had to say. And

01:00:34.880 maybe cancel culture is on the wane. And maybe, you know, people are sort of sick of, oh, you can't

01:00:41.600 listen to the hymn or stay away from Rebel. I don't know. I found it quite vindicating in a way.

01:00:46.000 Anyway, so without further ado, let me end the show with some clips from my appearance. You can

01:00:54.220 find it on Jordan Peterson's YouTube channel. But here are some clips from my appearance with

01:00:58.720 Jordan Peterson. Take a look.

01:01:00.080 The Trucker Convoy, Rebel News, that was really our time to shine. The regime media were all on

01:01:06.020 Justin Trudeau's script. This is the Maple Leaf insurrection. This is the January 6th moment for

01:01:11.620 Canada. Yeah, it wasn't just for Canada either. Like that, that, that, that demonstration triggered

01:01:16.680 all those farmers protests in the UK. And it was a big deal. It was huge. It was the time when people

01:01:21.940 paid attention to Canada in an interested, focused way. But Trudeau tried to have the script being

01:01:28.340 these are violent, racist people. Fringe minority with unacceptable views. That was his exact...

01:01:33.600 Confederate Nazis. You know Canada's full of Confederate Nazis. 0.73

01:01:36.920 So we were down there just with our citizen journalists, just filming everything on our

01:01:42.080 phones. And in that month, we had 400 million views and impressions, which is more than the

01:01:49.280 average bunch of the CBC state broadcaster. I believe we helped stop the Trudeau narrative

01:01:55.440 from taking root. Anyways, that Trucker Convoy was completely peaceful, except one thing. There was

01:02:04.360 one shooting. There were probably 10,000 or tens of thousands of people in Ottawa, and there were

01:02:10.340 echo events all across the country. Who was the shooting? Our reporter, Alexa Lavoie, clearly marked

01:02:17.660 as a reporter, holding her cell phone, filming riot police and truckers. One riot cop with the RCMP

01:02:26.540 takes out his riot gun at close range and shoots her in the leg. Her, the only person in the end,

01:02:35.020 and with the wadding and a huge bruising, and you can hear her screams of pain. And by the way,

01:02:42.900 the police don't offer her help afterwards. They shoot her and go. We're suing the RCMP for that as

01:02:47.960 well. We've discovered that that weapon is not meant to be shot at a person. Won't surprise you to learn.

01:02:52.740 You shoot it into an area on the ground, and it releases cure gas. And you only do that with that

01:03:00.160 weapon if things are very escalated. If there's like a riot underway, if people are storming

01:03:05.640 something, you do not use that weapon preemptively because there's a bunch of people chanting.

01:03:10.060 So it was used inappropriately, both in terms of manner and time. And is it a coincidence,

01:03:17.460 and this is my conspiracy theory side, is it coincidence?

01:03:20.220 About time we got to those. That the only person in the country who was shot during the convoy

01:03:24.320 was our reporter. And we complained to the RCMP. We're suing them, but we also complained to them.

01:03:29.700 You know who, the police have an internal complaint system. You know who they assigned it to?

01:03:34.000 You know where the RCMP officer was based who looked into this matter? You're not going to guess,

01:03:40.100 but what do you guess for fun? I couldn't tell you.

01:03:43.860 Port-au-Prince, Haiti.

01:03:44.860 No, I wouldn't have guessed that. I've got to tell you.

01:03:48.520 The RCMP, as part of Trudeau's outreach to the Haitian community in Montreal, has RCMP officers

01:03:54.820 stationed in Haiti to teach them how to be cops. You can accept that or not, but that was where 0.93

01:04:00.760 the cop who was going to do this investigation of the shooting of Alexa Lavoie, our reporter,

01:04:05.160 was based. It's so absurd.

01:04:07.100 Well, that's our show for today. Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World

01:04:12.620 Headquarters, to you at home, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - March 04, 2025

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trump sends Zelenskyy packing to his European handlers

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