EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trump sends Zelenskyy packing to his European handlers
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What does it mean to be a rules-based international order in 2025, as opposed to being a military superpower like the United States? President Trump and Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky met last week in the Oval Office.
Transcript
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Hello, my friends. You know what? Christopher Freeland and the globalist left always use a
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phrase, rules-based international order. Have you ever heard them say that? It sounds like
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word salad, and I've always ignored it. But today, I want to look at what it really means,
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because I think it means find a way to box in the United States. I'm going to look at that
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through the prism of the Zelensky-Trump meeting last week. Anyways, I don't think I introduced
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it as very exciting, but I'm going to go through a whole bunch of things. What does it mean
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to be a rules-based international order in 2025, as opposed to being a military superpower like the
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United States? I really hope you enjoy today's monologue. I worked on it all weekend. I also
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talked with Ruby Dalla about the latest from the Liberal Party, so make sure you don't miss that
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also. One more thing. Let me invite you to get the video version of this podcast. I want you to see
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a speech by, there's a German politician I play a clip from, play a couple of clips from
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Chrystia Freeland, and I want to show you some submarines in Norway, and you're thinking,
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patriots and support our independent journalism. Tonight, Trump the disruptor disrupted something
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pretty big last week, but what exactly? It's March 3rd, and this is the Ezra LeVance Show.
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You've got it for freedom. Shame on you, you censorious bug.
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Well, it's official. The official people officially think Donald Trump was officially outrageous in
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how he treated Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky last week. Here's a short clip of the
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toughest part of that interaction. Mr. President, Mr. President, with respect,
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I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front
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of the American media. Right now, you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front
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lines because you have manpower problems. You should be thanking the President for trying to bring it
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into this conflict. Have you ever been to Ukraine that you say what problems we have?
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I have been to... Come once. I've actually watched and seen the stories, and I know what happens is
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you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour, Mr. President. Do you disagree that you've
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had problems bringing people into your military? We have problems. And do you think that it's
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respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration
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that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country? A lot of questions. Let's start from the
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beginning. Sure. First of all, during the war, everybody has problems. Even you. But you have
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nice ocean. And don't feel now. But you will feel it in the future. God bless. You don't know that.
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God bless. God bless. You will not have the war. Don't tell us what we're going to feel. We're trying
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to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're going to feel. I'm not telling you. Because you're in no
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position to dictate that. Remember this. You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel.
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We're going to feel very good. You will feel influenced. We're going to feel very good and
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very strong. You will feel influenced. You're right now not in a very good position. You've
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allowed yourself to be in a very bad position. And he happens to be right about it. From the very
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beginning of the war, Mr. President, I was in it. You're not in a good position. You don't have the
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cards right now. With us, you start having cards. I'm not playing cards. I'm very serious,
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Mr. President. I'm very serious. You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. You're gambling with
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World War III. You're gambling with World War III. And what you're doing is very disrespectful
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to the country, this country. It's back to you. Far more than a lot of people said they should have.
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Have you said thank you once? A lot of times. No, in this entire meeting, you said thank you.
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Even today. Even today. You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October.
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Offer some words of appreciation for the United States of America and the President who's trying
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to save your country. I won't show you the preceding half hour of the meeting, but if you watch it,
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you can see how Zelensky repeatedly prickles at Trump and J.D. Vance until they finally take the
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bait. I didn't know this until afterwards, but this was actually the third meeting where Zelensky
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was supposed to sign a treaty with America that he refused to do so. Here's the U.S. Treasury
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Secretary explaining it. President Trump sent me there to, again, we were supposed to bring the
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Ukrainian people closer to the U.S. people, send a strong signal to Russian leadership that we had
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not only shared values, but now shared economic interest and also have a strong signal for the
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American people that their tax dollars were actually going to work. Instead, President Zelensky and I had
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a very tough 45-minute meeting at a very loud decibel level, and I kept telling him, Mr. President,
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the purpose of this is to show the Russians there is no daylight between us. And at the end of the
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meeting, he said, well, I'm not signing this. I said at the end of the meeting, I said to him,
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what do you want to go out and tell the press? He said, I said, because I don't want to go out
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and show the Russians that there's daylight in between us. And he said, well, I'm going to go
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out and say I'll sign it in Munich. Then he got to Munich and he ran into Vice President Vance
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and Secretary Rubio, very different than Vice President Harris and Secretary Blinken,
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but he didn't sign the agreement. So finally, we were supposed to have the signing today.
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It was supposed to be a great day. And this is one of the biggest own goals in diplomatic history.
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After his disastrous meeting with Trump, Zelensky flew to London, where he received a hero's welcome.
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All of the rest of the NATO leaders and other Europeans were there cheering for him. It was the
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same online. World leaders were very quick to tweet their support for Zelensky. But what does that
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mean to say you support Zelensky? What does support mean? I mean, is that too philosophical a question
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to ask? Trudeau likes to use the word victory when he talks about Ukraine, that Trudeau will be with
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Ukraine until victory. But what does that mean? I was surprised that the CBC published this video
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actually talking to Ukrainian troops who say they're just overwhelmed by Russian equipment,
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but mainly Russian manpower. This is from just a few weeks ago. How are things going? I mean,
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last time I talked to you, it was three months ago. How was the situation on the front line?
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For real, I think the situation is not really good for me. We're all tired. We're all tired.
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We want peace. We lack. We need manpower. We need equipment.
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The main thing is the abundance of Russian equipment. It's just too much. There's too
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many soldiers and stuff. But yet we're holding the line. Somehow we're holding it.
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To me, this tweet was perfect. It's from the prime minister of Luxembourg. No, I haven't heard of him
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either. Luxembourg is really just a city of about a million people, but he is a prime minister.
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And he said this on Twitter. He said, Luxembourg stands with Ukraine. You are fighting for your
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freedom and a rules-based international order. Here's what I wrote back. I said, I mean, you know,
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me and the prime minister of Luxembourg, we're pen pals now or something. But here's what I said on
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Twitter. And this seemed to resonate because 5 million people watched it. I said, Luxembourg has
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a grand total of 939 people in its army. You have two unarmed helicopters and a cargo plane.
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That's not a joke. I actually looked it up. I must have hit a nerve with that because millions of
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people viewed it in a single day. Some people said that wasn't a fair point because Luxembourg is
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just a city landlocked in Europe. What's the point of having a big army? To which I respond,
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exactly. It would be like the mayor of Winnipeg tweeting that he stands with Zelensky. You say
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you stand with Ukraine, but you are actually standing somewhere else. You're not in Ukraine
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standing with them. As in, you are where they are standing with them, either in Kiev or actually in
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the battlefield. Obviously not. And if not, you really, are you really standing with them? You say
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you support them morally. You're giving them some moral support. Okay. But how about actual support?
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France and the UK have both talked about sending actual troops there. But when pressed, they mean
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as peacekeepers, as in after the war is already over. Of course, they're sending money. That's a form
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of support. And they're sending equipment. And there's training the Ukrainians. And all of that has
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been happening. But Russia has three times the population of Ukraine. It's just overwhelming the
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troops. Take a look at this chart here. It shows foreign aid for Ukraine ranked by country. America
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has given as much as the rest of the world combined. I've seen other charts with slightly different numbers
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on them. But the gist is the same. This may be a European war, but it's American taxpayers putting
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the money and equipment on the table. Trump campaigned on ending that. And he is ending it,
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or trying to. That's distasteful to many people. Because for one thing, when you make a peace treaty,
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you're generally doing so with someone who has been at war with you. So it's tough to go from
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calling someone evil incarnate for three years to shaking hands with them and signing agreements with
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them and ending sanctions on them. But that's how it works in wars. The alternative is, I guess,
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an unconditional surrender, as Germany and Japan did after the Second World War. That's a war,
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though, that cost the lives of 15 million soldiers, another 25 million wounded, and probably 45 or 50
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million civilian deaths. That's the problem with tweeting your support from Luxembourg. You're
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pretty far away from the front lines where young men are being put through the meat grinder every day.
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I say young men, but actually the young men are gone now. They're either dead or they fled the country
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as refugees. The average age, average age of Ukrainian soldiers is now 43 years old. A generation of young
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Ukrainians have been killed in this war. You know, there's a longstanding meme on social media
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that claims 80% of boys born in the Soviet Union in 1923 did not survive it through the Second World
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War. The BBC had a historian fact check that and found it generally accurate, although many of them
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died from other terrible things besides the war. Did almost 80% of the males born in the Soviet Union in
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1923 not survive World War Two? Well, here's Mark Harrison, who got the answer by looking at figures
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compiled in a book released in 1993 by three Russian demographers. It's not correct. It's somewhat
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overstated. I think the true figure would be nearer two thirds. Two thirds of this cohort were dead by
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the time the war was over. I think the only misleading thing about the line on the internet, the deeply
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misleading thing is it implies that all these people were killed in the war. And that's not the case.
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This is just a poor country in which lots and lots of babies and young men died anyway. And then of the
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ones that were left, there was then this extra burden of war casualties. But in fact, the war was not the
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most important source of mortality between 1923 and 1946. So 8% of the males born in 1923 hadn't died
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by the end of the war. Two thirds had. That's still a lot of young males dead. Mike Haynes says census data gives the
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same result. What we mustn't do under any circumstances is diminish the catastrophic nature of the Second World War and the
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population losses in the Soviet Union. Around about 27 million is the estimate of what's called excess mortality.
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And there's a margin of error there. And to put that figure into perspective, the margin of error in the Soviet data is
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probably greater than all the wartime losses in Britain. So that's a measure of how many people died.
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The point is, it cost an entire generation of Russian men. Just like the civil war in the United States culled an entire
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generation of young men, particularly in the South. So yeah, you support Ukraine with everything and anything
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except for actual help. The thing is, many of the complaints about what happened in that White House meeting are
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compelling. Why Russia is wrong, why Ukraine deserves help. But they're all just stop at the
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someone ought to do something point. It's like that fake song in that movie. I don't know if you ever saw it called
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Forgetting Sarah Marshall. Russell Brand was hilarious in that movie. And he made a fake song in a fake band called
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We've Got to Do Something. Here, just take a look for a second.
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We gotta do something. We gotta do something. Before Mother Earth gets any more hurt, we gotta do something.
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We've gotta do something. It's a really funny song, but here's the outgoing German
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foreign minister, Annalena Baerbock. The speech is in German, but there are subtitles. Just FYI,
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she's part of the Green Party. Those are the eco-peaceniks. You just watch a little bit of this
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speech by the Green Party cabinet minister in Germany.
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Viele von Ihnen werden heute Nacht angesichts der unsäglichen Videos aus dem Weißen Haus
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unruhig geschlafen haben. Ich ehrlich gesagt auch. Leider war das kein schlechter Traum,
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sondern heftige Realität. Unser Entsetzen ist heute größer als zuvor, aber ebenso unser Commitment für die
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Menschen in der Ukraine, für unsere eigene Sicherheit und für den Frieden in Europa.
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Der gestrige Abend hat unterstrichen, eine neue Zeit der Ruchlosigkeit hat begonnen. Eine
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ruchlose Zeit, in der wir die regelbasierte internationale Ordnung und die Stärke des Rechts
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mehr denn je gegen die Macht der Stärkeren verteidigen müssen. Denn sonst kann kein freies Land mehr
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ruhig schlafen, das einen stärkeren Nachbarn hat. Das alles hat sich bereits seit geraumer Zeit
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abgezeichnet. Und deswegen haben wir seit Längerem an neuen gestärkten Bündnissen mit all denen in der
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Welt gearbeitet, die bereit sind, weiter für eine regelbasierte internationale Ordnung und die Stärke
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des Rechts anstatt das Recht des Stärkeren einzustehen. Wir müssen selbst als Europäerinnen und Europäer
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stärker als jemals zuvor vorangehen und entschlossen für unsere Interessen und das Völkerrecht einstehen,
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und zwar ohne Wenn und Aber. Für uns ist deshalb klar, wir stehen felsenfest an der Seite der souveränen und
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freien Ukraine. Die Ukraine ist Teil des freien und demokratischen Europas. Wer in diesem Krieg gegen
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die Ukraine, brutaler Aggressor und wer mutiger Verteidiger ist, wer hier Täter und wer Opfer ist, das steht
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vollkommen außer Frage. Die Welt schaut auf uns, insbesondere in Europa, aber niemand auf der Welt
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wartet, bis wir hier Verhandlungen in Deutschland abgeschlossen haben. Wir leben in unsicheren Zeiten,
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meine sehr verehrten Damen und Herren, aber wenn wir in diesen Momenten, in diesen Tagen erneut, wie schon
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einmal vor drei Jahren, in Deutschland und in Europa die richtigen Weichen stellen, dann wird Europa zeigen,
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was es im Kern ausmacht. Ein starkes Friedensprojekt, Frieden und Freiheit für seine Millionen Bürgerinnen und
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Bürger. Ein Friedensprojekt, das in die Welt ausstrahlt. Slava Ukraini, es lebe Europa.
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So, she's very passionate about Ukraine. And she says, Germany has to do something,
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as Russell Brown would sing it. She should at least sing it. But how can they do something?
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Germany hasn't just demilitarized, it's deindustrialized, in no small part because of
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the Greens. You know, there are literally 40 U.S. military bases in Germany with about 50,000 U.S.
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troops over there. Sister, you can't even defend yourselves, but you're ready to go on an adventurous
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war in Ukraine? Actually, she's not. That's the whole point. She's not. She just wants to do
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something. I get it. Look, me too. Actually, I don't think another multi-country land war in Central
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Europe is the answer to pretty much anything in life, but all these really cool Europeans think so.
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But you can't do that if you've denationalized your countries, if you've demilitarized your
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entire continent, if you've deracinated your people, if you've removed the motivation for
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young men to fight for their homeland. There's no industry left in Germany. Well, there is,
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but it's shrinking as they decarbonize. There's no military, just a post-national,
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post-industrial place where they listen to weird music. Here's Nick Kroll having some fun with that.
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Want to know everything you want to know about coming to Europe? Well, watch this video from
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the Sportadox Hostel, the coolest hostel in all the countries of Europe.
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For breakfast, we'll do something cool, like have a cigarette and then like a bar of chocolate.
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Then we go for work for like one half hour, two half hour. And then we'll go for lunch. And lunch is
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usually, you know, something cool like a cigarette and like two, three bottles of red wine and then like a
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bowl of heavy cream. And then dinner, you know, we'll do something healthy, like, you know,
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four or five sausages and then like a chocolate cigarette. And then we'll invite our cigarette
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outside to take an espresso and watch the streetlight. And we so much can eat as much as we
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want and we never get heavy because of olive oil. So that's what we say.
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So yeah, if you're a Green Party politician or the prime minister of a city called Luxembourg,
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you do a lot of deep thinking and you may actually be right about Ukraine. But the answer to every
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single time you say we've got to do something is, well, you and what army? And that's basically
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what Trump asked Zelensky, you and what army? You heard that Green politician talk about a rules-based
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international order. Did you catch that? And look again at that Luxembourgers tweet. He uses that same
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language. You are fighting for your freedom and a rules-based international order. That's a phrase
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Christopher Freeland uses endlessly. It's one of those phrases that sounds very bland. And so you
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don't really even think about it. I've been hypnotized by that phrase. You know, I remember my friend Terry
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Corcoran at the Financial Post was always writing, and I'm talking about 20 years ago, about the World
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Economic Forum in Europe. And I confess, I was so bored by the words World Economic Forum that I never
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really cared about it until I actually realized that that name was a kind of camouflage to hide what
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they were doing. Same thing with the phrase rules-based international order. By the way, here's
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Christopher Freeland talking about the rules-based international order at the World Economic Forum in
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2019. The rules-based international order today is facing greater challenges than it has at any time
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since the Second World War, at any time since it was created. And that's very serious. You know, I
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sometimes scare myself when I say that. But I also think that we are starting to figure out how to
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navigate this new world. And to, you know, we're starting to figure out ways for the rules-based
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international order to fight back. She doesn't quite explain what she means there, though, does she?
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Here she is in a 2017 interview. So this was during Trump's first year in his first term.
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And I'll tell you what rules-based international order means. It means a bunch of socialists like
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Chrystia Freeland and a bunch of Euro-socialists, I've discussed already, teaming up to tie down the
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United States like Gulliver in Lilliput. Rules-based means using the United Nations and other multilateral
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clubs to tell America what to do and what not to do. Not using the hard power of money and military
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might, but the soft power of lawyers and journalists and bureaucrats and USAID and the World Economic
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Forum and all sorts of other NGOs. Rules-based international order means making rules to stop
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We are at a time and a place when international institutions need to be reinvented and renewed.
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And I argued today, and I believe so strongly, we need to double down on that international
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rules-based order. And doing that is the best way. I believe it is the only way to ensure safety and
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security for Canadians. There are only 36 million Canadians. A Fortress Canada approach is not going
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to be an approach that will maintain our prosperity or our safety.
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So you talked a lot about America today. Are you saying we need to go it alone and put some
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separation between our foreign policy and America's foreign policy? You referenced it a lot in your
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speech today. What exactly are you saying about Canada's role now?
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My central conviction is about Canada committing to, recommitting to, building our leadership in
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our multilateral alliances. Having said that, we also need to be honest with ourselves and with
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Canadians. And we need to be honest about the fact that the election in the United States last fall,
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for many Americans, was an expression of a weariness with the burdens of global leadership.
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You said they're questioning global leadership. Exactly.
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So if they're questioning global leadership, you're saying we have to take a sovereign,
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We have to appreciate that we as Canadians, our country, a middle power, is a huge beneficiary of
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this international rules-based order. And we have to step up.
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So let me explain. The rules-based international order, in case you're wondering, is a system or a
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scheme or an ideology or a plan whose purpose is to let poor, weak, socialist countries box in the
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United States. The rules-based international order is what Europe has just used for the past three
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years to convince the mentally frail U.S. president, or whoever his deep state handlers were, to give
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more than $100 billion to a war that Europe claims to care about, but doesn't really care about when
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measured by anything real, like blood or treasure. A rules-based international order is how countries
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convince or try to convince the United States to de-industrialize by adopting the global warming
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cult and carbon taxes. A rules-based international order is how the United Nations is weaponized
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mainly against America, but also against America's allies like Israel. A rules-based international
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order is how you get insane things like a plastics registry championed by Canada.
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You know what this reminds me of? The most European American there is, John Kerry. You know who I'm
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talking about? Former senator, most recently Joe Biden's global warming ambassador. We keep bumping
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into him naturally at the World Economic Forum in Davos, and we always ask him about his private
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jets, and he just can't give them up. Secretary Kerry, do you think that the high price of natural gas
00:26:15.720
is actually a helpful thing to get people to transition to a green economy? I'd love to talk about it,
00:26:23.400
but I just can't do it on the run. How can you justify being here when you yourself take private jets?
00:26:29.080
Can you answer that? But you've taken a private jet before, no, but you've taken a private jet before to
00:26:34.620
collect the climate change award. You have done that. I fly commercial exclusively. Can I ask you,
00:26:40.880
did you fly commercial to get here? Partway, yes. Partway, and then what? What do you mean,
00:26:48.520
then what? Well, you're an advocate against climate change. Excuse me. Thank you very much.
00:26:58.120
Mr. Kerry, we got interrupted last. Quick question. Why are you actually here now when you're not in any
00:27:04.060
professional? I'm sorry, sir. No question. That's okay. He can talk for himself. You're in the private
00:27:08.740
sector now? Sure. And you told us that you part flew here privately. We're not. That's how you get
00:27:15.700
here. No, no, but you told me. Last year you got very upset that we implied that you took private
00:27:20.200
jets. Yesterday you told us that you. I'm not going to waste my time with you. You said you part
00:27:24.880
traveled. What part did you travel here privately? Thank you, sir. I'm sorry. Is it now worth it?
00:27:30.760
Is it now worth it in the private sector? Is your carbon footprint worth it now? I'm sorry, sir. We're not
00:27:35.040
doing any energy. Flying, obviously, private jets. We ask him about his private jets every year,
00:27:39.660
and he sort of answers us every year. And his answer is pretty much the same. And it's actually
00:27:45.060
an honest answer. He says, look, I'm important and I'm busy. And so that justifies using a private jet
00:27:51.100
with all its carbon emissions. As in, he says he really, really does care about the world's
00:27:56.340
environment. But in the case of himself, it's more important that he fly to another meeting than save
00:28:01.920
100 tons of carbon or whatever. He admits it's a contradiction, but he makes the choice. And surprise,
00:28:07.920
surprise, he chooses the private jet. So he believes in what he's saying, just not to the
00:28:13.440
point of actually having to inconvenience himself. Just like the foreign minister of Germany. She's a
00:28:19.520
deeply believing and deeply feeling woman. She's a member of the Green Party with everything that
00:28:25.960
entails. She wants an army for righteous moments like this, but she'd prefer it if it were the American
00:28:31.780
army or at least the Ukrainian army using American weapons. Does she really want an army
00:28:37.340
in Germany? Now, that's a dangerous question, I suppose. But like Kaya Callas, the foreign minister
00:28:43.260
of the European Union, I think she really just wants to do some role playing, some live action
00:28:50.040
role playing to play pretend, sort of like dress up. It's sort of like those Civil War reenactors,
00:28:58.160
those hobbyists in the U.S. who pretend they're soldiers in the Civil War. I think that's what all
00:29:03.380
these European politicians are like. So you've got every soft power, rules-based international order
00:29:09.960
who wants the hard power of the United States, but only in ways that they approve of. So when Donald
00:29:17.260
Trump wants a minerals deal out of Ukraine, they're appalled. Except you can't build a modern
00:29:24.220
industrial economy without minerals. And don't they realize this puts American and American interest
00:29:29.980
in Ukraine? Something that Putin would be very reluctant to shoot at as compared to the first
00:29:35.780
Luxembourg Brigade. Give me 30 seconds. Let me show you a video released by the Norwegian army. Now,
00:29:43.800
they're good people in Norway. I don't have a hard word to say about them, but seriously, feast your eyes
00:30:19.300
Now, I show you that because I have some news out of Norway. Maybe you saw it over the weekend.
00:30:27.380
A refueling company based in Norway says it will no longer refuel U.S. Navy ships patrolling near
00:30:36.120
Norway. They said this is because of how Trump handled Zelensky. Got it. But help me understand,
00:30:43.820
why is the U.S. Navy patrolling the seas near Norway in the first place? Apparently, it was this ship,
00:30:50.820
the USS Delaware, a nuclear-powered attack submarine that was looking for diesel fuel to back up for its
00:30:59.600
backup generator. It's a nuclear-powered sub, but it also has a diesel generator. Now, I'm skeptical of
00:31:04.640
the story. By the way, it feels like some social media activist used the Facebook account of this
00:31:10.160
company to make a personal statement, but it's plausible that he spoke for the company.
00:31:15.180
But here's what the USS Delaware looks like. I mean, it's just an awesome ship. I did some poking
00:31:22.220
around. It's a couple of photos of it. It's pretty huge. Look at the size of the people on the top of
00:31:28.120
it for scale. These are fast attack submarines. They cost more than $4 billion each just to build them.
00:31:36.380
And then there's the massive cost to arm them and operate them and crew them and maintain them.
00:31:44.560
They have a crew of 134 people. They're huge. They really move fast. Imagine that thing going 50
00:31:50.180
kilometers an hour. It's only about five years old, this ship. It's probably the most advanced
00:31:54.920
attack submarine in the world. But like I say, what were they doing in Norway? I mean, why was it there?
00:32:02.040
Why wasn't it protecting the United States, which is paying for it? Oh, this is why. The entire
00:32:09.440
Norwegian budget is about $15 billion U.S. a year. They can't afford to buy and then operate even a
00:32:18.120
single nuclear attack sub like this. Now, they do have six baby subs. Well, they're babies in size.
00:32:25.500
Here's a picture of two of them next to each other. But they're not babies in age. They were delivered
00:32:31.220
in the 1980s. So they're in their 40s. They're older than most of the crews sailing them. They're
00:32:38.020
small. They just take 21 crew. Now, they're not nothing. And that's more than Canada can do,
00:32:44.680
by the way. We allegedly have four submarines, but generally they don't work. In the whole year of 2019,
00:32:50.840
for example, all four Canadian submarines, they were in port being repaired or they just didn't
00:32:58.240
sail. But can you guess why the Americans were sailing around Norway? And it's not just
00:33:06.960
submarines. Here's a U.S. aircraft carrier recently sailing by Norway too. What's it doing in Norway?
00:33:13.760
Norway? Well, if you guessed, the answer is because Norway, like the rest of the free world,
00:33:21.660
really can't defend itself. That's the answer. They've made a choice not to defend themselves.
00:33:31.020
That's why the United States has 40 bases in Germany. That's why the United States is a nuclear
00:33:36.060
powered sub in Norway, has a nuclear powered aircraft carrier in Norway. Norway is very rich,
00:33:41.440
by the way. That's why Chrystia Freeland and the rest of the world's nagging Marxists lament the
00:33:47.860
end of the rules-based international order. Because to them, that means they get to be on par with the
00:33:54.020
Donald Trumps and Pete Hegseths of the world. They get to have as much say as the J.D. Vances and the
00:34:00.060
Marco Rubios. Why? Because of rules. But the rules didn't protect Ukraine, did they? American money and
00:34:07.140
weapons did. And Trump wants to end that war. Maybe you'll disagree with the exact way that
00:34:12.260
happens. Maybe you disagree with peace at all. Trump said it on Friday, Zelensky has no cards to play and
00:34:18.200
everyone can see that. So if you want a rules-based international order, you've got to do what Teddy
00:34:24.500
Roosevelt said about 120 years ago. You should walk softly and carry a big stick. Sometimes people
00:34:32.980
listen to America and Donald Trump because they make intellectually persuasive arguments.
00:34:38.640
Sometimes people listen to America because they make appealing commercial arguments.
00:34:44.400
But at the end of the day, America calls the shots because American taxpayers and American soldiers
00:34:49.600
have a good answer to that question. We've got to do something. They have an answer for the
00:34:57.360
something. And they have an answer to the question, you and what army? Joe Biden and his nurses or whoever
00:35:05.480
was running the show agreed with the weak world powers around the world who wanted to milk America for
00:35:12.620
all it had. Trump's going in a different direction and he campaigned on that. Now that doesn't mean
00:35:18.080
there's no role for Chrystia Freeland and a hundred other pundits like Kaya Callas and that Luxembourg
00:35:25.040
guy. Their role is to tweet, I guess. I mean, they could re-industrialize and re-militarize,
00:35:34.720
but that's too yucky and nationalistic and fascistic for them. So for now, I guess they'll just sort of
00:35:41.680
watch from the stands and heckle. By the way, I haven't said a lot about Canada today because no one is
00:35:49.660
really paying any attention to Justin Trudeau or our foreign minister, Melanie Jolie, but you can
00:35:55.700
expect Prime Minister Mark Carney to be the absolute worst in the world at this soft power stuff. He was
00:36:02.760
the original ESG, Environmental Social Governance Corporate Soft Power Oligarch. Boy, we are cruising
00:36:10.080
for a bruising here in Canada too. Stay with us for more.
00:36:26.260
Well, anyone who watched the two liberal leadership contest debates, I wouldn't even call them debates,
00:36:32.920
they were more like Me Too-a-thons. Well, you can figure out why they blocked Dr. Ruby Dalla
00:36:38.940
from being a candidate. By the way, they didn't block her until after she lodged her $350,000
00:36:45.780
entry fee into the race. The answer, in case you weren't watching those two debates, is that there
00:36:51.940
weren't actually debates. It felt like there was a kind of collusion going on that all four of the
00:36:58.200
remaining candidates had pretty much decided that Mark Carney was going to run away with it. So instead of
00:37:03.700
taking pot shots at him or, to phrase it another way, asking critical questions or challenging Carney
00:37:09.820
as the front runner, they all seemed to submit their resumes and apply for a cabinet position.
00:37:15.920
There were no sparks because that wouldn't suit. It was all about getting Mark Carney through this
00:37:22.160
entire process with as little scrutiny as possible. Well, the woman who they blocked has not been
00:37:29.080
stopped from talking about it. Joining us now to catch up on things is Ruby Dalla. Great to see
00:37:35.980
you again. Thanks for taking the time with us. Thank you so much. It's a pleasure to be back again.
00:37:41.220
Now, tell me what you thought of the debates. I'm sure you watched them. My number one reaction is
00:37:47.940
they weren't actually debates. It was like a controlled, managed conversation amongst friends and allies.
00:37:55.620
That was no debate. Well, I would certainly agree with you on that. It was actually more of a family
00:38:02.080
group chat, you know, that one would have within their family and having a discussion. It was very
00:38:08.100
clear after seeing some clips of that debate of why the Liberal Party of Canada did not want to have me
00:38:14.220
on that debate stage. You know, from the get go, I had spoken about wanting to bring the party back to
00:38:19.520
the centre about returning the party membership back into the hands of the grassroots of this country.
00:38:24.440
And most importantly, about talking about progressive policy ideas that I felt were the
00:38:29.080
need of the hour. And after watching that family group chat, I can tell you that I was very happy
00:38:35.740
that Canadians actually had a chance to hear about policy and about the vision and about the future
00:38:41.780
of our country with the simultaneous debate that I had with a very well-known TikTok, you know,
00:38:48.780
influencer with millions and millions of likes, you know, on his posts. But both him and myself,
00:38:55.080
we hosted something in collaboration for the debate called The Real Debate. And what was really,
00:39:00.120
really interesting is that the highest, I think, online viewership that the party and the CBC received
00:39:07.320
was 8,000. And we actually had 50,000 people, you know, that were watching us throughout our debate.
00:39:14.080
So it was very clear that Canadians wanted to hear about policies. They wanted a real debate,
00:39:21.500
you know, and where you actually have opposing views and certainly not having a friendly group chat.
00:39:27.720
Yeah. And I think that Canadians felt, especially Canadians who were liberals, and of course,
00:39:32.620
I myself, I'm not a liberal. But if I were a liberal, I would want to make up the choice for myself. I wouldn't
00:39:39.380
want a secretive committee of party insiders determining who I could or couldn't vote for.
00:39:45.080
I would want to inspect the merchandise of all the different candidates, kick the tires, to use
00:39:50.560
another metaphor. And I would want to be the decider. It feels a little bit too controlled. Now, let me
00:39:55.920
ask you, I know you appealed your decertification to an internal party appeal process. And again, from what I
00:40:04.720
heard, this was a secretive process, not done in public, not done with scrutiny. I suppose that
00:40:10.940
marks the end of the road internally. Thinking as a former lawyer, I know you could try and have the
00:40:18.160
courts judicially review it. That's probably a long shot. Courts would probably grant a lot of
00:40:23.760
deference to the Liberal Party. Is there any more legal moves you can, are there any more legal moves
00:40:30.240
you could make? Or are you just going to be a journalistic critic now? Are you going to try and
00:40:35.580
get back in? Or has that ship sailed? You know, it was very unfortunate what happened. And, you know,
00:40:41.940
as you shared that this, you know, disqualification of Ruby Dalla, it certainly, you know, engaged Canadians
00:40:50.160
from all political stripes from all over the country. And I and my team, you know, and supporters were
00:40:57.160
really, really shocked that 5.8 million people engaged on Twitter alone on 96 hours after the
00:41:06.220
disqualification on Instagram, we had 4.8 million people engaged, because people clearly saw this
00:41:12.500
disqualification for what it was, it was an attack on democracy. It was an attack on fairness and attack
00:41:18.300
on justice in our country. We live in a first world country where democracy is a foundation of,
00:41:24.360
you know, our country and the very people that we are. So to take away that opportunity for people
00:41:30.840
to vote, to take away the opportunity for people to have that choice, you know, in itself is something
00:41:36.340
that just makes you scratch their head for a party that was preaching about democracy and preaching
00:41:41.860
about being the Liberal Party of Canada. It certainly was not very liberal when they have a track record
00:41:48.480
now of kicking out smart, successful, intelligent women that have a voice. You take a look at Dr.
00:41:55.260
Jane Philpaw, you take a look at Jodi Wilson-Raybaud, you take a look at Selena, all of these people have
00:42:00.620
women, you know, smart and successful and intelligent have all been kicked out by the party. I was also the
00:42:06.460
second candidate, you know, to be disqualified from the immigrant community, from the South Asian
00:42:11.480
community in particular, even though I was born and raised in Canada. And for what? Because I was there to
00:42:17.440
challenge the status quo and to challenge the establishment. You know, when we talk about the
00:42:22.760
debate in particular, I mean, whoever wins and the establishment wants Mark Carney to win,
00:42:28.520
how is he going to go up on that debate stage and debate Pierre Paulyevre? How is he going to go up
00:42:33.900
and actually have a debate with other Canadians who want to talk about the future of our country?
00:42:40.000
Yet the establishment was scared to have Ruby Dalla up on stage debating Mark Carney. It just, it's all
00:42:46.140
very, very puzzling and very bizarre to say the least. And then to come up with, you know, fabricated
00:42:51.660
allegations hours after they received $350,000. So in terms of, you know, what you've mentioned,
00:43:00.620
where do we go from here? You're a lawyer. So we're actually, you know, you'll appreciate that
00:43:05.420
the lawyers are actually taking a look to see what windows, you know, exist in terms of pursuing
00:43:11.900
this further, especially for the $350,000, which was given actually by hardworking Canadians. And
00:43:19.140
they want the Liberal Party of Canada to do the honourable thing, to do the ethical thing and have
00:43:24.300
that money returned to those hardworking Canadians that donated for the vision that I had for the
00:43:29.900
party and for the country. Now, you mentioned that it was the party, some party agency, I don't know,
00:43:37.540
some committee that booted you out. Have you had any communication from any of the four candidates
00:43:45.460
or any MPs or anyone, just, and I'm not asking you to name them, but has anyone from within the party
00:43:52.680
reached out to you and say, you know, this isn't right, or I wish you hadn't been kicked out? Like,
00:43:58.620
have you had, are there other friendlies within the party who are saying what you've just said,
00:44:04.020
this isn't the right way to do it, it looks like censorship and cancel culture, or are they sort
00:44:09.620
of, have they all made their peace with the fact that Carney's their new king?
00:44:15.280
Well, I think one thing's very clear that I was certainly not in this leadership race to
00:44:20.000
get a job or to apply for a job. I was there, you know, for my lifelong commitment that I've had
00:44:25.900
to public service to our party and to our country. And like you said, this friendly group chat was
00:44:31.280
sort of everyone wanting to see which job they can get out of this. And, you know, when they were all,
00:44:36.340
I would say, appeasing Mark Carney, who they perceive as, you know, the front runner that the
00:44:41.580
establishment wants to become the leader. So I think that it really changes the dynamics. None of the four
00:44:47.220
candidates reached out, but many, many MPs, you know, did reach out and felt what was done by,
00:44:53.860
you know, the Liberal Party establishment was unfair, it was unjust. And as one MP put it,
00:44:58.880
this is certainly not very liberal at all for the Liberal Party to be carrying out, you know,
00:45:03.720
these types of issues. And even more than the many Liberals that reached out, there were also
00:45:10.300
so many Canadians, some who are politically aligned with other political parties, other people that are
00:45:15.860
not politically involved, other people that are politically homeless, but just people who really
00:45:19.800
believe in democracy and fairness. And they saw what happened. I mean, I learned of my disqualification
00:45:24.760
while I was live on television. Guess with you, with CBC, you know, so for someone that was running
00:45:30.960
for the leadership of the Liberal Party, for someone that is running to be Prime Minister of the country,
00:45:35.580
for a party establishment to inform me in that manner, I think that a lot of Canadians just felt that
00:45:41.680
that was just plain wrong and something that was unacceptable, you know, by the Liberal Party.
00:45:47.580
When we spoke nine days ago, you mentioned the fact that both Chrystia Freeland and Mark Carney
00:45:54.400
had been directors of the World Economic Forum. Now, that's not something that most people in
00:46:00.160
mainstream media or mainstream politics know about or talk about. And it's sort of a can of worms. We
00:46:05.400
cover the World Economic Forum every year. We fly over there and try and ask questions of the VVIPs.
00:46:10.860
So I know exactly what you mean. That's the kind of question that makes the mainstream media really
00:46:16.100
uncomfortable. And I think that's exactly the kind of thing they were trying to stop you
00:46:21.640
from injecting into the debate. So here's my question about that. I know that when you talk
00:46:27.620
to us, you talk to other citizen journalists too, other YouTubers. You mentioned the big TikTok
00:46:33.540
influencer you were with on debate night. And that doesn't surprise me that people who are sort of
00:46:40.280
skeptical citizen journalists would want to hear what you have to say. But let me ask you this.
00:46:45.160
How have you been treated in the last 10 days by what we call the mainstream media, by the CBC,
00:46:51.940
CTV, Global, by the Globe and Mail, by the Toronto Star, really the big guys?
00:46:58.060
Have they been open-minded towards you? Have they given you a fair hearing? Or have they frozen you out
00:47:04.420
because they don't want to talk about prickly things like the World Economic Forum or whatever also?
00:47:11.740
Well, we're actually going to need your help on this one because I can tell you a rebel news
00:47:16.020
because we, you know, we're looking through some of the various interviews that were being done
00:47:22.160
of the liberal talking heads. And one of the best analogies that this liberal talking head came up
00:47:30.660
with on CBC News about the reason for my disqualification was, well, Ruby was discussing
00:47:37.660
the World Economic Forum. And this is a bizarre conspiracy theory. Like the whole thing just,
00:47:44.800
you know, makes you scratch your head that if the liberal talking head could have this as the best
00:47:50.240
reason possible for having Ruby Dalla disqualified because she's talking about the World Economic
00:47:56.040
Forum, which they deem to be a conspiracy theory, I was just sitting back and thinking, this is all
00:48:01.220
fact. You know, I haven't been a part of the World Economic Forum. And if you have these group of
00:48:05.880
individuals that have been and are, it should be of no basis to have me disqualified because I was here
00:48:11.540
talking and focusing on the issues. I never personally attacked any, you know, candidate that was running.
00:48:17.320
I never personally attacked any individual. I was focused on talking about issues and policies,
00:48:22.740
which are the need of, you know, the hour. So that was, you know, the sentiment that was being
00:48:29.080
expressed by them. Then when it comes to mainstream media, I mean, CBC, just everything from the language
00:48:35.460
that was used by CBC right now, right to them finding out about my disqualification, you know,
00:48:42.100
before I found out who was the candidate, that was very strange. But afterwards, you know,
00:48:47.320
you take a look at the Toronto Sun, you take a look at the National Post in particular, and even
00:48:53.220
CP24, they have all come out, you know, showing my side of the story. And see, I think it was a
00:49:00.060
Toronto Sun, Brian Lilly, called some of the allegations laughable. The National Post came out with an
00:49:05.860
article basically stating why the Liberal Party of Canada saw Ruby Della as a threat to Mark Carney's
00:49:12.300
coronation, and hence the reason. So some of the mainstream channels, I think, have really taken
00:49:16.880
a step back and taken a look at this and say that it was very evident that they wanted to have me off
00:49:23.340
of the debate stage, off of the ballot and complete the coronation of Mark Carney. And I think that those
00:49:28.800
media outlets all agree that this was unjust. But I think that's stemming from seeing the overwhelming
00:49:34.240
response of citizens, people who are, you know, may or may not be affiliated with a political party,
00:49:40.340
or maybe politically homeless, or maybe very, you know, pro-liberal or anti-liberal or pro-conservative,
00:49:46.140
or, you know, not with another political party, I think it stems from the fact that this was just
00:49:50.840
something that was an attack on democracy in our country, something that was completely an attack
00:49:55.580
on fairness and justice. And people actually lost the right to cast their vote, to make a choice of who
00:50:02.900
they want as a liberal leader and as Canada's future prime minister. I had signed up thousands
00:50:09.760
and thousands of membership across the country. All of those people were left without the opportunity
00:50:14.980
to be able to vote for me. And those donors that gave $350,000 for the vision, that believing in
00:50:22.520
the vision that I had for the country, that I had for the party, they're all out of pocket with this
00:50:27.580
money. And that's why the Liberal Party needs to do the right thing and return that money to those
00:50:31.940
donors. Yeah. Just really quickly on the World Economic Forum, I don't want to spend too much
00:50:36.220
time on it, but I mean, it is a real thing. It meets every January in Davos, Switzerland. Now,
00:50:41.480
I'm sure there are false rumors about it, but it is not a rumor that both Chrystia Freeland and Mark
00:50:48.760
Carney were on the board. In fact, we've interviewed Mark Carney every year at the World Economic Forum
00:50:55.140
when we're walking on the streets. Here's a quick clip of me scrumming him last year on the streets
00:51:00.220
of Davos. He actually was sort of friendly. Here, take a look. Talk to a Canuck. Talk to him. Great. Nice to
00:51:06.500
see you. But seriously, he needs help. He's down 20 points. He has a gender gap. Women are choosing
00:51:12.840
conservatives more than liberals. I don't remember the last time that happened. What advice would you
00:51:17.620
have for the youngster? Going to a central banker for political advice is never a good idea. Come on.
00:51:24.180
We know that you're in the line. I heard you had a meeting the other day with the prime minister in
00:51:29.600
Ottawa. Is that correct? I see the prime minister from time to time. In what capacity, may I ask?
00:51:35.560
I, well, I do a lot of work on climate, as you know. I'm sure a big fan of that.
00:51:42.520
Do you ever register as a lobbyist or is it just friendship?
00:51:46.600
Sorry, I don't. When you meet with the PM on climate,
00:51:50.060
are you there on your own behalf or are you there on behalf of a company lobbyist?
00:51:53.260
I am the UN special envoy on climate action and finance.
00:51:58.500
And what do you make it so bitter cold in Canada, down to minus 40s?
00:52:02.260
Back home in Alberta, it was minus 40. And Gilboa was saying, go to electric cars.
00:52:07.220
That doesn't work. Well, you've got to have, watch out, you've got to have the full,
00:52:12.420
you've got to have full capacity, right? And you've got to have, you've got to, you know,
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one of the things we're going to need to do in Canada, across Canada, and this is, you know,
00:52:23.540
for the benefit of jobs in the country is, is build out the grid. You can't switch before you
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build it out. Number one. Number two, one of the things you need, regardless of the
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form of energy you have, we have, is, is also to have what's called a capacity market alongside
00:52:44.680
So you think that Gilboa's plan is a little bit hasty since we haven't done those foundational
00:52:48.780
Well, I think what's important is that, you know, whether it's in Alberta, Ontario, Canada,
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Australia, for that matter, is that you have to, yeah, you have to build, you have to build.
00:53:00.780
And it's a, it's a time to build. And look, we're in a position where we in Canada are in a position
00:53:08.460
where we have been an energy superpower. We can continue to be an energy superpower.
00:53:14.720
We've always, we've always had the ability to develop new sources of energy.
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But the PM said there was no market for natural gas. How do you feel about natural gas, especially
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to relieve Ukraine and other Europeans from Russian gas? How come they're buying Russian
00:53:31.860
gas and Qatari gas, but Justin Trudeau won't let them buy Canadian gas?
00:53:36.000
Well, we would have to get to build the trains in order to do the, what are called LNG trains
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in order to get the gas to them? Well, God, this is a long interview, isn't it?
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I'm enjoying it and I'm, and I'm doing my best to be fair and friendly.
00:53:49.660
If this was Canada, you could have him arrested.
00:53:53.320
Did you see that? Your rival, Christy Freeland, had one of our reporters arrested.
00:53:57.380
I don't think she did. I think she didn't say a word against it.
00:53:59.860
On the incident, as you guys know very well, Canada is a rule of law country. Canada is
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a democracy. Operational decisions about law enforcement are taken by the police of jurisdiction.
00:54:20.200
Quite appropriately, elected officials have no role in the taking of those decisions. And that's
00:54:29.760
why I don't have any further comment. It was the wrong thing. It was absolutely the wrong thing.
00:54:34.400
Thank you for saying that. Look, freedom of the press. I've been a public figure in Canada,
00:54:43.020
been a public figure in the UK. I know you got to answer tough questions and you guys,
00:54:46.380
you know, you asked tough questions and that's fair. Well, I want to thank you for saying that
00:54:50.040
because I have to say, Christy Freeland has not yet said anything in the, in the vein that you have.
00:54:55.620
She's been happy to let the cops do her work for her. And if she disagrees with the cops,
00:54:59.720
she hasn't said so. Well, I said what I said. So, but look, the questions you were asking earlier
00:55:06.520
about energy and I'm going to have to. Thanks for your time. I really appreciate it.
00:55:10.940
So that clip shows, I mean, it's, he, he's there every year. Like it's Mark Carney's
00:55:24.280
real stomping grounds. And Chris, you're feeling, I, it's really weird to me.
00:55:28.340
The real question is if you're going to get a clip done this year.
00:55:31.300
Yeah. Well, he wasn't, neither of them went this year. Both of them stayed home because of the
00:55:35.680
liberal leadership contest. Let me ask you one last question. I'm, I sure appreciate you spending so
00:55:39.960
much time with us. Let's say that there's no more legal avenues to, to go down. I, I'm guessing
00:55:48.660
that a court would be reluctant to overturn the deal here. I mean, it's, it has happened before.
00:55:53.460
I've seen it in other parties. There have been some courts intervening, but I don't know if they'll
00:55:58.580
do that here. And certainly I don't know if they'll do it quick enough. So let's say that the state of
00:56:04.300
affairs continues as it is. You were kicked out. You can't get back in. And as I think will happen,
00:56:10.520
Mark Carney is, has a coronation. What are your plans? Are you going to continue to speak as a
00:56:17.560
journalist, like a, as an, like a pundit? Are you going to run in some form? Are you still figuring
00:56:25.740
that out? What do you, I mean, I, I enjoy talking with you. It's very interesting, but what are you
00:56:30.880
going to do, let's say a month from now or in the heart of a campaign? Have you thought it through?
00:56:37.140
To be very honest and transparent with you, there has been a lot of suggestions and advice and
00:56:42.880
everything happened very quickly. I had gone in, you know, into the race to win it. I did not
00:56:48.100
imagine that me questioning the status quo or questioning the establishment or even talking
00:56:53.140
about progressive policy ideas would result in the liberal party having, you know, their egos and
00:56:59.320
the establishment so bruised that they would, you know, have me disqualified. So I'm going to take
00:57:04.260
some time just to think about next steps. I have dedicated my life to the liberal party of Canada,
00:57:09.800
but it certainly did not turn out to be very liberal after all. So I'm going to be in the coming days
00:57:14.960
taking a little bit more time to reflect as to the next steps. And hopefully we'll share those with
00:57:21.420
you once they find and they have been finalized. Well, I should tell you that our petition at
00:57:26.200
draftruby.com has almost 5,000 signatures on it. I'll send it over to you. So there's a lot of
00:57:32.620
people who want to see you do something, whether that's run as an independent, maybe even look at
00:57:38.380
other parties that might be more welcoming. I mean, I think that some of our viewers are quite
00:57:43.620
conservative, but I think they can spot someone who is an independent thinker, is a critical thinker,
00:57:51.260
who is open-minded, who believes in democracy. And I think those are important values,
00:57:56.120
whether you're left-wing or right-wing. So I think you embody some of that public spirit. And I think
00:58:01.240
you've impressed a lot of people. I've enjoyed talking with you and I hope we'll keep in touch
00:58:04.960
over the next few months because it's going to be very intense news times. And I know you'll have
00:58:10.560
something to say. I hope we can keep talking to you from time to time.
00:58:13.300
Yes. Thank you so much once again. And I just want to say thank you to all of your
00:58:17.820
listeners and your audience for reaching out. We're sending so many messages of support.
00:58:22.200
And I want everyone to know that this was really about a movement. And it became a moment of sort
00:58:27.260
of truth of, you know, showing that when you do question the establishment or you ever speak out
00:58:32.780
and bruise anyone's egos or you challenge the status quo, that there are people that are going to
00:58:38.100
attack the democracy. And I think that because so many Canadians and so many, you know, people just
00:58:44.080
spoke out and engaged, that Canadians will not allow any political institution in our country
00:58:49.480
to attack democracy, to attack our values of fairness and justice. And regardless of which direction and
00:58:55.800
which path I move forward in, I will always stand with all Canadians in this fight for democracy,
00:59:04.220
All right. There you have it, Dr. Ruby Dalla. You can sign our petition
00:59:24.460
Hey, you know what? I was in the Wall Street Journal the other day. Did I tell you that?
00:59:28.580
It's quite a prestigious newspaper, if I do say so myself. It's a very old newspaper. It's one of the
00:59:33.660
largest newspapers in America. I think it's the second largest. And it's prestigious, especially
00:59:39.540
as a business paper. Anyways, they published an op-ed by me about tariffs and how my view is that
00:59:46.880
Donald Trump should not punish all of Canada just to get at Justin Trudeau. In fact, it's not a very
00:59:52.780
America first thing to do to push away Canadian oil. He should pull more Canadian oil to displace
00:59:58.100
conflict. So I was very proud, frankly, to be published in the Wall Street Journal. And it felt
01:00:04.840
like I overcame some cancel culture. Not that they were ever bad at it, but it felt, you know,
01:00:09.460
prestigious for me. And then Jordan Peterson had me on his show for an hour and a half. Did you see
01:00:15.320
that? I was sort of excited. And not that Jordan Peterson is a cancel culture guy at all. Quite the
01:00:21.980
opposite. He's someone the left tried to cancel. But I felt like both Jordan Peterson and the Wall
01:00:28.100
Street Journal within a week felt like the world wanted to hear what Rebel News had to say. And
01:00:34.880
maybe cancel culture is on the wane. And maybe, you know, people are sort of sick of, oh, you can't
01:00:41.600
listen to the hymn or stay away from Rebel. I don't know. I found it quite vindicating in a way.
01:00:46.000
Anyway, so without further ado, let me end the show with some clips from my appearance. You can
01:00:54.220
find it on Jordan Peterson's YouTube channel. But here are some clips from my appearance with
01:01:00.080
The Trucker Convoy, Rebel News, that was really our time to shine. The regime media were all on
01:01:06.020
Justin Trudeau's script. This is the Maple Leaf insurrection. This is the January 6th moment for
01:01:11.620
Canada. Yeah, it wasn't just for Canada either. Like that, that, that, that demonstration triggered
01:01:16.680
all those farmers protests in the UK. And it was a big deal. It was huge. It was the time when people
01:01:21.940
paid attention to Canada in an interested, focused way. But Trudeau tried to have the script being
01:01:28.340
these are violent, racist people. Fringe minority with unacceptable views. That was his exact...
01:01:33.600
Confederate Nazis. You know Canada's full of Confederate Nazis.
01:01:36.920
So we were down there just with our citizen journalists, just filming everything on our
01:01:42.080
phones. And in that month, we had 400 million views and impressions, which is more than the
01:01:49.280
average bunch of the CBC state broadcaster. I believe we helped stop the Trudeau narrative
01:01:55.440
from taking root. Anyways, that Trucker Convoy was completely peaceful, except one thing. There was
01:02:04.360
one shooting. There were probably 10,000 or tens of thousands of people in Ottawa, and there were
01:02:10.340
echo events all across the country. Who was the shooting? Our reporter, Alexa Lavoie, clearly marked
01:02:17.660
as a reporter, holding her cell phone, filming riot police and truckers. One riot cop with the RCMP
01:02:26.540
takes out his riot gun at close range and shoots her in the leg. Her, the only person in the end,
01:02:35.020
and with the wadding and a huge bruising, and you can hear her screams of pain. And by the way,
01:02:42.900
the police don't offer her help afterwards. They shoot her and go. We're suing the RCMP for that as
01:02:47.960
well. We've discovered that that weapon is not meant to be shot at a person. Won't surprise you to learn.
01:02:52.740
You shoot it into an area on the ground, and it releases cure gas. And you only do that with that
01:03:00.160
weapon if things are very escalated. If there's like a riot underway, if people are storming
01:03:05.640
something, you do not use that weapon preemptively because there's a bunch of people chanting.
01:03:10.060
So it was used inappropriately, both in terms of manner and time. And is it a coincidence,
01:03:17.460
and this is my conspiracy theory side, is it coincidence?
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About time we got to those. That the only person in the country who was shot during the convoy
01:03:24.320
was our reporter. And we complained to the RCMP. We're suing them, but we also complained to them.
01:03:29.700
You know who, the police have an internal complaint system. You know who they assigned it to?
01:03:34.000
You know where the RCMP officer was based who looked into this matter? You're not going to guess,
01:03:40.100
but what do you guess for fun? I couldn't tell you.
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No, I wouldn't have guessed that. I've got to tell you.
01:03:48.520
The RCMP, as part of Trudeau's outreach to the Haitian community in Montreal, has RCMP officers
01:03:54.820
stationed in Haiti to teach them how to be cops. You can accept that or not, but that was where
01:04:00.760
the cop who was going to do this investigation of the shooting of Alexa Lavoie, our reporter,
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Well, that's our show for today. Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World
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Headquarters, to you at home, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.