Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trump steals the show at ASEAN as Carney fumbles abroad

00:00:01.000 Hello, my friends. I watched Mark Carney's entire speech at an Asian conference in Malaysia.

00:00:08.180 It's only five and a half minutes long. That's all the time they gave him.

00:00:11.340 I'll play you the speech and I'll give you my thoughts and then I'll contrast it

00:00:14.820 with Donald Trump's triumphant arrival at that same conference. That's ahead.

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00:00:28.320 I want you to see this empty room, Carney, not even standing at a podium. 0.98

00:00:32.260 I want you to see how pitiful and pathetic it was and how mumbly it was. 0.92

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00:00:49.160 Tonight, Donald Trump and Mark Carney were both in Malaysia, but they didn't meet.

00:00:54.080 Let me show you how each of them fared at that get-together.

00:00:57.000 It's October 27th and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:03.280 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:06.420 Hey, the word ASEAN, A-S-E-A-N, it's like NATO. It's an acronym.

00:01:21.360 It stands for the Association of Southeast Asian Nations.

00:01:25.080 There's 11 countries, including Indonesia, which is a pretty big country.

00:01:30.100 And you'd be surprised how big countries like the Philippines and Vietnam and Thailand are,

00:01:34.120 but they're all pretty poor also, to be honest.

00:01:37.920 Neither Canada nor the United States are members of this club called ASEAN,

00:01:42.400 but both were there, invited as guests.

00:01:45.920 I'm going to show you what each of those two leaders did.

00:01:48.740 Now, I'm sorry, you're going to find this very depressing.

00:01:51.680 Now, let's start with Mark Carney.

00:01:53.280 He left Canada during a crisis.

00:01:56.480 His best friend, Doug Ford, had dumped $75 million, allegedly,

00:02:01.320 into attack ads against Donald Trump,

00:02:03.700 the same time as Canada's diplomats are trying to negotiate a trade agreement with them.

00:02:07.480 Could you imagine if Trump had bought $75 million worth of political attack ads in Canada

00:02:12.460 just to rough up Mark Carney, to whip up Canadian sentiment,

00:02:16.480 to put pressure on Carney, to compromise in a negotiation?

00:02:20.720 I think it would be unthinkable,

00:02:22.360 but that's what the brilliant neurosurgeon rocket scientist Doug Ford cooked up.

00:02:26.860 And even when he agreed to stop the ads, he fudged that

00:02:30.940 because he really wanted the ads to air during the World Series over the weekend.

00:02:34.660 That surprised Trump, who had been told the ads were coming down.

00:02:38.560 And he gave Canada, as a surprise in return, a 10% bump in tariffs.

00:02:44.580 On the plane yesterday, you said that you're so thrilled about the Canada tariffs.

00:02:48.960 Can you walk through when you expect those to take effect?

00:02:52.240 And can you ask why?

00:02:53.020 I don't know. We're going to let them know.

00:02:56.800 Ronald Reagan loved tariffs.

00:02:58.520 He used them sparingly, which he probably would make a mistake.

00:03:03.180 He made a mistake in that.

00:03:04.660 And again, I was the biggest fan of Ronald Reagan.

00:03:07.440 But on finance, on trade, it wasn't his strong suit.

00:03:13.640 But he liked tariffs.

00:03:14.840 And they totally changed that to say that he didn't.

00:03:18.160 Because they're catering to the Supreme Court.

00:03:20.620 Because Canada has been ripping us off for a long time.

00:03:23.720 And they're not going to rip us off anymore.

00:03:25.540 Canada has been ripping us off for a long time.

00:03:28.780 One of the most difficult countries to deal with has been Canada.

00:03:31.900 As much as I love Canada itself and the people of Canada,

00:03:36.020 they've just had a lot of bad representatives.

00:03:38.320 They did a fake ad yesterday.

00:03:39.820 They were caught.

00:03:40.840 The Ronald Reagan Foundation was the one that caught them.

00:03:44.780 And it was totally the opposite of what they said.

00:03:47.460 So I don't like that. 1.00

00:03:48.860 That's dirty fool. 1.00

00:03:49.920 You can't do that. 1.00

00:03:50.800 And let me just tell you, they shouldn't have done it.

00:03:54.820 And they've apologized.

00:03:56.240 And they said, we're going to take the ad down.

00:03:57.960 Well, they did it.

00:03:58.880 But they did it very late.

00:04:00.140 They let it play for another two nights.

00:04:02.360 And now they took that ad down.

00:04:04.500 So I don't know when it's going to kick in.

00:04:06.900 We'll see.

00:04:07.540 But I don't really want to discuss it.

00:04:09.520 By the way, here's a U.S. negotiator who says it's not even about the ad.

00:04:13.780 It's about all sorts of antics by the Canadian negotiating team.

00:04:17.240 And he specifically mentioned some holdovers from the Trudeau years.

00:04:21.940 Yeah, obviously the president's truth,

00:04:24.240 something that reveals his frustration with the actions and postures of the Canadians 1.00

00:04:29.540 through months of negotiations.

00:04:32.300 And we'll see how it goes.

00:04:34.000 Mr. Hassett, on Canada, you said the president was frustrated.

00:04:38.580 But is this just a knee-jerk reaction?

00:04:41.420 I think the frustration has built up over time.

00:04:43.860 I've been involved in some of these negotiations.

00:04:45.880 And the Canadians have been very difficult to negotiate with. 1.00

00:04:48.940 And you look at all the countries around the world that we've made deals with,

00:04:52.340 and the fact that we're now negotiating with Mexico separately

00:04:56.420 reveals that it's not just about one ad,

00:05:01.220 that there's frustration that's built up.

00:05:03.280 And is he planning to speak with the Prime Minister Carney

00:05:05.620 when they're both in Asia this week?

00:05:07.140 Because this ad had nothing to do with Carney's government.

00:05:09.780 I don't have any information on that.

00:05:13.460 Mr. Hassett, how concerned is the administration

00:05:15.800 that the Supreme Court will not ultimately side with your view on the tariff policy?

00:05:22.060 The president has been truthing a lot about the upcoming case.

00:05:26.060 I think that we have a very high level of confidence

00:05:28.360 that the Supreme Court will side with us.

00:05:30.640 We think we're on very strong grounds.

00:05:32.060 I've been fishing through the briefs myself just to see what the arguments are.

00:05:37.340 And I think that the case is very, very strong

00:05:39.160 and we're highly confident that they'll side with us.

00:05:41.440 I even spoke to the Oval with the president about it last night.

00:05:44.520 And I say the level of confidence is extremely high.

00:05:46.820 Mr. Hassett, just very quickly,

00:05:48.740 what has been so challenging about dealing with Canada in trade negotiations?

00:05:53.020 I guess the lack of flexibility and, you know, also I would guess that

00:06:00.340 leftover behaviors from, like, the Trudeau folks

00:06:06.260 that can be very frustrating for people who are in this year.

00:06:10.220 Anyways, I'd call that a crisis.

00:06:12.640 Is there anything more important that Carney is doing?

00:06:14.960 But, you know, his way of handling crises seems to be to run away to his happy place,

00:06:20.140 his safe place, which is foreign conferences,

00:06:22.940 as opposed to our parliament or a cabinet meeting

00:06:25.860 or even just going down to the White House to try and fix things.

00:06:28.720 I think that Mark Carney likes giving speeches in faraway places

00:06:32.480 and sounding like a boring Goldman Sachs analyst, which he is.

00:06:37.660 Just jargon-filled word salads.

00:06:41.140 I'll show you.

00:06:41.620 Let me show you his entire speech to this ASEAN conference.

00:06:46.600 I got to tell you, the speech is just over five minutes long

00:06:49.380 and no one there cared what Carney had to say.

00:06:55.480 The place was inattentive.

00:06:56.960 Carney wasn't even standing up at a podium.

00:06:59.800 He was just sitting in front of a microphone, low energy.

00:07:03.560 I'm not sure if his speech was written out for him,

00:07:05.780 but it doesn't really matter.

00:07:07.220 It was just all that jargon fog machine.

00:07:10.700 Take a look.

00:07:11.240 I want you to promise to stay and listen to what Trump said

00:07:15.440 and what Trump did by contrast.

00:07:17.660 That's my whole point here is to compare.

00:07:20.100 So please don't be bored by Mark Carney and click away.

00:07:24.640 I really want you to stay to see the difference

00:07:26.480 between Carney and Trump at the same meeting.

00:07:29.400 Okay?

00:07:29.800 So here goes.

00:07:30.500 I'm going to, like I said, it's about a five-minute speech that Carney gave.

00:07:33.160 I'll play the whole thing.

00:07:34.740 I'll play the first two and a half minutes without interruption.

00:07:38.140 So that's half the speech right there.

00:07:39.680 It's just a five-minute long speech here.

00:07:40.960 Take a look.

00:07:41.340 Now, Excellencies, ladies and gentlemen, as for the tradition,

00:07:48.760 we will first invite the guests of the chair,

00:07:53.740 and we begin with the Prime Minister of Canada.

00:07:56.780 Thank you very much, Prime Minister, for that introduction,

00:08:02.400 for your hospitality, and for your leadership in this vital forum

00:08:06.560 at this historic time and your leadership over the years and going forward.

00:08:11.520 Your Royal Highness, Your Excellencies, it is an honor to be here.

00:08:16.280 I chose this summit and this visit to Malaysia

00:08:20.100 as my first trip as Prime Minister to Asia for a reason.

00:08:26.040 And that is, like ASEAN, Canada values sustainability

00:08:30.260 and inclusivity in everything we do.

00:08:32.960 And I felt as I walked in to the summit, as I said to His Excellency,

00:08:37.040 that I felt at home seeing the symbolism here.

00:08:40.960 We value a rules-based system.

00:08:43.600 We respect trade agreements and the rule of law.

00:08:45.760 We value the free exchange of goods, capital, and ideas.

00:08:49.720 We're a natural partner.

00:08:51.840 And as one of your earliest dialogue partners,

00:08:55.080 we value ASEAN as the standard barrier of multilateralism.

00:08:59.440 And I just want to say a few words about how we can contribute to building that.

00:09:04.200 I recognize your words this morning.

00:09:07.260 We're at an uncertain time in the world.

00:09:10.340 There's a shift.

00:09:11.980 We don't know the new system that's going to emerge.

00:09:14.740 This is more of a rupture than a transition.

00:09:17.440 It's a shift that's happening in a short period of time.

00:09:21.780 Multilateralism, giving away to transactional bilateral trade,

00:09:26.260 a new era of great power rivalry,

00:09:29.100 technological change shrinking distance,

00:09:31.520 and increasing the fields of conflicts.

00:09:35.020 Developments that all challenge the effectiveness

00:09:38.080 of the institutions on which we as middle powers have long relied.

00:09:42.940 It makes ASEAN more important than ever.

00:09:46.000 And it underscores the importance of reliable partners

00:09:49.260 who honor their commitments, who are there in tough times,

00:09:51.880 and when things are not working,

00:09:54.140 who work collaboratively to fix them.

00:09:55.980 And, again, I want to commend you, Chair,

00:09:58.220 in brokering the peace agreement that was announced this morning.

00:10:05.360 A future determined by commitment, not circumstance, again, to quote.

00:10:08.960 And, colleagues, I would like to just underscore

00:10:12.920 that Canada can be and is such a partner.

00:10:15.640 You know, in 2025, no one really cares about someone

00:10:20.360 talking about a rules-based order.

00:10:22.860 That's the idea that economic power and military power

00:10:26.140 don't really count its whatever rules

00:10:29.100 some bureaucrats at the UN publish that matter.

00:10:32.560 That's just not how the world works.

00:10:34.420 Certainly not in places like Ukraine and Russia

00:10:36.560 and Israel and Gaza and China and Taiwan and anything.

00:10:40.720 But even so, it's a lie.

00:10:41.920 Mark Carney does not believe in a rules-based order.

00:10:44.180 He violated the rules by unilaterally and unconditionally

00:10:48.980 declaring Canada's recognition of a Hamas-led Palestine

00:10:53.640 without adhering to any rules or any international systems

00:10:56.840 like a UN vote.

00:10:59.060 I don't believe in the UN.

00:11:00.220 I think the rules-based system is code for blocking the United States.

00:11:04.640 But it's a bit rich for the guy who claims to follow the rules

00:11:07.700 just to give a big diplomatic gift to Hamas terrorists 0.92

00:11:10.420 and pretend that he didn't.

00:11:11.380 But other than that, would you agree that this speech

00:11:15.020 really just sounds like a bunch of blather?

00:11:17.640 Like a bored professor talking to bored students?

00:11:21.420 He mentions a peace agreement.

00:11:22.920 I'll come to that in a moment.

00:11:24.460 It seems like he had no idea about it in advance.

00:11:26.880 But unless I misunderstood him,

00:11:28.460 I think he actually suggested in just a mumble

00:11:31.100 that no one listened to that Canada might be willing to help do that.

00:11:36.360 Canada can be and is such a partner.

00:11:40.620 No one asked Canada to make a peace deal

00:11:42.720 between Thailand and Cambodia.

00:11:44.640 No one asked.

00:11:46.020 No one asked Canada to help negotiate between Ukraine and Russia

00:11:48.960 or between China and Taiwan

00:11:50.740 or between Israel and Hamas.

00:11:52.540 It's literally no one in the world thinks,

00:11:56.400 what would Canada do? 0.82

00:11:57.980 Let's ask them.

00:11:58.800 Let's ask them for help.

00:11:59.660 No one.

00:12:00.540 And I'm embarrassed to say this,

00:12:02.560 but it's downright pitiful to see this mumbler 0.73

00:12:05.380 just sort of half-assed say it

00:12:06.980 after the fact suggesting

00:12:08.400 that he could have been relevant

00:12:10.280 to a peace deal or something.

00:12:11.820 I'll show you more about the peace deal later.

00:12:13.680 But let me play some more of his speech.

00:12:15.060 We're halfway done

00:12:15.760 because here's where he starts in on his sales pitch

00:12:18.720 to this half-empty room.

00:12:20.840 I'll play just under a minute.

00:12:22.360 Here, take a look.

00:12:23.080 Let me give an example.

00:12:23.940 A few days ago,

00:12:25.300 I announced our plan to double our non-U.S. exports

00:12:29.580 over the course of the next decade.

00:12:31.580 That's more than $300 billion in new trade,

00:12:34.260 much of which we hope will be with this group.

00:12:37.760 We think we can do that

00:12:39.140 because we have much of what the world wants.

00:12:41.380 We're an energy superpower

00:12:42.680 in both clean and conventional.

00:12:44.640 We expect within the next five years

00:12:47.780 to produce and export 50 million tons of LNG

00:12:51.100 every year to Asia

00:12:53.780 and to double that within 10 years from then.

00:12:57.800 So Carney says we're an energy superpower,

00:13:00.040 both clean and conventional.

00:13:02.520 But we're not.

00:13:03.660 We're a serious producer of oil and gas,

00:13:05.760 but both are very limited by the fact

00:13:07.480 that you can't build pipelines in Canada

00:13:09.300 and you can't build tanker facilities

00:13:11.180 because the government will stop you.

00:13:13.260 The liberals killed the Northern Gateway Pipeline

00:13:15.460 and the Energy East Pipeline,

00:13:17.400 and they haven't lifted a finger

00:13:18.520 to revive the Keystone XL Pipeline

00:13:20.500 after their ally, Joe Biden, killed it.

00:13:22.780 Now that Trump is there,

00:13:24.240 they would revive it in a second.

00:13:26.040 But what does a clean energy superpower even mean?

00:13:29.860 We export some electricity to the U.S.,

00:13:32.060 most of it from hydroelectric dams,

00:13:34.260 not from windmills or solar panels,

00:13:36.280 which is what I think Carney means.

00:13:38.400 Now he does mention LNG, liquefied natural gas.

00:13:41.420 He refuses to say the word oil.

00:13:44.200 But his liberals have been an impediment to LNG.

00:13:46.940 Remember, Justin Trudeau actually said

00:13:48.680 there was not a business case for it.

00:13:51.140 And he turned down countries like South Korea,

00:13:53.120 Japan, Germany, and India

00:13:54.600 who all wanted Canadian energy.

00:13:56.900 Listen to what he says about rare earth minerals,

00:13:59.220 which are needed for some high-tech things

00:14:01.440 like magnets and batteries.

00:14:02.780 Take a look here, and I'll come back to it in a minute.

00:14:05.420 We're one of the largest,

00:14:06.900 blessed with one of the largest resources

00:14:09.000 of critical minerals and rare earths,

00:14:11.420 just like many around the table.

00:14:13.360 And part of our partnership offer

00:14:14.720 is to work with you on financing and developing that,

00:14:19.100 including through what we formed,

00:14:21.860 a critical mineral alliance,

00:14:23.740 which can provide a secure buyer for these resources

00:14:27.400 so that you can develop them over time.

00:14:30.120 Do you understand that?

00:14:31.420 He says he's ready for financing and development

00:14:35.220 for them, not for us.

00:14:37.700 He says you twice.

00:14:39.160 So he's going to take Canadian money

00:14:41.340 and put it into foreign countries?

00:14:44.020 What does he mean by that?

00:14:45.260 Does he think he's at Brookfield or something?

00:14:48.260 He's offering them money?

00:14:49.740 Whose money?

00:14:51.180 Taxes, I presume, to develop Asian resources. 1.00

00:14:55.200 I thought he was trying to sell them

00:14:56.440 on developing our resources.

00:14:58.420 Play that again.

00:14:59.000 We're one of the largest,

00:15:01.460 blessed with one of the largest resources

00:15:03.560 of critical minerals and rare earths,

00:15:06.160 just like many around the table.

00:15:07.920 And part of our partnership offer

00:15:09.280 is to work with you on financing and developing that,

00:15:13.680 including through what we formed,

00:15:16.440 a critical mineral alliance,

00:15:18.280 which can provide a secure buyer for these resources

00:15:21.960 so that you can develop them over time.

00:15:24.420 You can develop them.

00:15:26.900 No, we can develop them.

00:15:28.280 Well, I don't know what he's talking about there.

00:15:30.280 Maybe I've misunderstood him.

00:15:32.020 Maybe he's just saying nothing.

00:15:34.080 And then he starts to ramble and mumble.

00:15:35.880 I guess he saw that he has just 60 seconds left

00:15:38.080 by this point.

00:15:38.980 So he sort of goes nuts

00:15:40.100 and it sort of overheats in his short circuits.

00:15:43.020 And he says all the buzzwords at once,

00:15:45.100 cyber, AI, you know,

00:15:47.060 and he just starts reaching for his happy places,

00:15:49.640 catalyze a generational investment.

00:15:51.380 Well, that's his favourite.

00:15:52.840 Watch this explosion of jargon.

00:15:55.600 With respect to defence, AI, cyber,

00:16:00.600 just to give context,

00:16:02.500 we are quadrupling our spending on defence

00:16:04.780 in the next five years.

00:16:06.400 Much of that will be in the realms of cyber security,

00:16:10.200 artificial intelligence and the interactions.

00:16:12.600 This is an area where our cooperation is ideal.

00:16:17.680 Do you know what he even means by that?

00:16:19.260 They shoehorned him into a meeting.

00:16:21.620 This is why he ran away from Canada.

00:16:24.100 For that, for five minutes of mumbling

00:16:26.020 when no one was even in the room,

00:16:27.340 he wasn't even standing at a podium.

00:16:29.580 The one thing that was tangible

00:16:31.320 was him saying he's going to quadruple

00:16:33.220 spending on the military.

00:16:34.760 I don't believe him.

00:16:35.760 Canada spends about $40 billion a year.

00:16:38.380 Do you really think he's going to quadruple it

00:16:39.820 to $160 billion a year?

00:16:41.840 Of course not.

00:16:42.740 But even if he were,

00:16:44.560 what's his point?

00:16:45.440 Why is he telling that to these other countries?

00:16:47.000 Is he going to send them some of the shipbuilding contracts

00:16:50.040 or something?

00:16:50.720 Is he inviting them to get some of that business?

00:16:53.440 What on earth is that false boast?

00:16:55.900 What does it have to do with getting investors

00:16:57.320 to put money into Canadian factories

00:16:59.200 or to buy Canadian goods?

00:17:00.920 I don't know.

00:17:01.560 And then he just lies.

00:17:03.260 This is the final clip.

00:17:04.300 I hope you haven't turned this off yet

00:17:05.540 because you've just got to hear Trump by contrast.

00:17:08.360 Here's the final moments.

00:17:09.920 President Prabowo, thank you.

00:17:14.980 We concluded a historic trade agreement,

00:17:18.440 our first bilateral free trade agreement

00:17:20.560 with an ASEAN partner,

00:17:22.080 with speed and with ambition.

00:17:25.940 This reflects what we want to do as a government.

00:17:29.720 We will bring the same commitment

00:17:31.880 to bilateral discussions with any of you

00:17:33.980 who are interested.

00:17:34.660 But very importantly,

00:17:36.020 and this is something I wanted to underscore,

00:17:38.420 we would like to complete the negotiations

00:17:41.620 of the Canada-ASEAN free trade agreement

00:17:44.260 over the course of next year's presidency.

00:17:48.820 President Marcos, we discussed earlier,

00:17:51.620 we will put all the resources in.

00:17:53.720 And finally, to supplement your work on digital,

00:17:58.540 on clean tech, and on energy wherever we can

00:18:01.380 because this is the form of reason and respect.

00:18:06.240 This is the form of inclusivity and sustainability,

00:18:09.220 and we are keen to contribute in any way we can.

00:18:12.620 Thank you very much.

00:18:13.880 Yeah, so Mark Carney is all about speed and ambition, people.

00:18:17.660 Today is his 228th day as prime minister.

00:18:20.600 What has he done so quickly and ambitiously?

00:18:23.500 Again, he mutters the buzzwords digital, clean tech,

00:18:27.060 but he doesn't say what he means.

00:18:28.780 Is he trying to get them to invest money in Canada?

00:18:33.180 Is he offering to spend our money on them?

00:18:36.960 Who knows?

00:18:38.040 No one knows, and no one there really cares.

00:18:41.520 He ends with some sort of passive-aggressive comment

00:18:43.800 that ASEAN, this group, is a form of civility and inclusively.

00:18:48.140 I think he's taking some subtle jab at Trump.

00:18:51.860 But he was crystal clear, wasn't he?

00:18:53.620 He said he concluded a trade agreement with an ASEAN country.

00:18:56.780 I looked it up, and I don't think he has.

00:18:59.240 Now, there was a deal with Indonesia that was done last year,

00:19:02.980 and they signed the paperwork recently.

00:19:05.340 Maybe that's what he means.

00:19:07.520 I don't know.

00:19:08.720 I mean, if he's taking credit for that, I guess it's true. 1.00

00:19:12.340 But it would be a weird thing to lie about.

00:19:15.020 I don't know.

00:19:15.600 Here's the statement that I thought he was referring to.

00:19:19.420 He put this statement out about meeting the head of the Philippines.

00:19:22.980 The headline is, Prime Minister Carney met with the president of the Philippines,

00:19:28.480 Ferdinand Marcos Jr.

00:19:29.760 I read the statement, and it says that Canada has been slowly negotiating freer trade

00:19:34.880 with the ASEAN group for years, and that'll continue for at least another year.

00:19:39.500 And the big news in that press release, apparently,

00:19:42.800 is that now Canada will also directly negotiate with the Philippines,

00:19:46.580 and that's going to take at least a year to negotiate.

00:19:49.500 So that's starting now, as in they don't have an agreement yet?

00:19:55.020 By the way, I like the Philippines,

00:19:57.080 but we only do about $3 billion in two-way trade each year with them.

00:20:01.540 We sell them about $1.4 billion worth of stuff every year.

00:20:05.240 Compared with a trillion dollars or $1,000 billion,

00:20:08.560 we do business with the U.S.

00:20:10.060 So it's sort of pitiful, sort of lame.

00:20:13.020 I see he was pretty proud to meet with the leader of Laos.

00:20:17.240 Our exports there, I checked, are $18 million.

00:20:20.760 Not billion, million.

00:20:22.260 I have no beef with Laos. 1.00

00:20:23.700 I couldn't find them on a map, honestly, but I'm sure they're nice.

00:20:27.240 I think running away from the crisis in Washington

00:20:29.960 for a photo op with Laos is pretty weak.

00:20:33.720 So that's our guy.

00:20:35.520 That's our elbows-up guy.

00:20:36.740 Honestly, what even was his message?

00:20:39.520 If you take all the filler words out of his speech,

00:20:43.040 AI, cyber, clean tech, digital, sustainable, transformative,

00:20:48.240 catalyzing, decisive action, you take all those words out,

00:20:51.740 there was only three things he said in that whole speech.

00:20:54.160 He's going to quadruple military spending,

00:20:56.040 which just is not true.

00:20:58.320 And what's that got to do with exports?

00:21:00.340 He says he signed a free trade deal.

00:21:02.760 If he means the one that was negotiated last year,

00:21:05.340 I guess that's true, but that's a weird thing to boast about.

00:21:08.360 And he's taking a veiled dig at Trump not being civil.

00:21:12.300 Speaking of whom,

00:21:14.000 Trump landed at Malaysia around the same time, too,

00:21:16.860 and he announced two real things almost immediately.

00:21:20.760 A peace deal between Thailand and Cambodia.

00:21:23.780 I didn't even know they were fighting.

00:21:25.200 Here, take a look.

00:21:25.760 I'll give it to him.

00:21:52.140 Oh, just that. Just another peace deal.

00:22:18.860 Now, some might point out that there have been attempts at getting those two countries together for a long time and that Trump just came along at the end as they crossed the finish line. Well, I suppose, but that's sort of the point. No one could make it stick. No one could get it across the finish line. No one could get it done. No one else could turn a maybe into a yes. No one else had the charisma, the authority, the economic power, the diplomatic power, the carrot and the stick.

00:22:43.280 Just like Joe Biden allegedly was working on peace for Israel his whole term. Well, Trump did it in a few months, getting both the Jews and the Arabs to agree.

00:22:52.900 Oh, but don't forget our Mr. Mumbles. He said he's available in case anyone wants him as a mediator or whatever it was that he said in that incoherent speech.

00:23:01.320 But besides a peace deal, Trump announced a trade deal the day he landed. And by deal, I mean a real deal, not a promise to try and get a deal a year from now.

00:23:11.320 You can read the deal on the White House website. It's very long and very beneficial to the United States. I skimmed the whole thing. It's very long.

00:23:18.940 Let me tell you some of the highlights.

00:23:20.060 It has 19% tariffs on Malaysian exports to the United States. So they pay for access to the U.S. market. And in return, they grant preferred market access for Americans in the Malaysian economy.

00:23:38.760 Isn't that what Carney said he was supposed to go to this conference in Malaysia to do? Didn't Carney want access to markets? Our guy didn't get them. Trump did. Remember, Carney mumbled something about critical minerals.

00:23:52.060 It was weird. He said Canada had them, but then he said something about ASEAN developing them. I'm not sure what the deal was. Actually, I am sure there is no deal. Just a mumble.

00:24:01.320 But let me read the critical minerals section of Trump's deal, which is in black and white.

00:24:05.860 Malaysia has committed to refrain from banning or imposing quotas on exports to the United States of critical minerals or rare earth elements.

00:24:16.320 Malaysia has committed to the expedient development of its critical minerals and rare earth sectors in partnership with U.S. companies, including granting extended operating licenses to create certainty for businesses to increase production capacity.

00:24:30.340 Malaysia has committed to ensure no restrictions are imposed on the sale of rare earth magnets to U.S. companies.

00:24:38.420 So U.S. companies get to go into Malaysia, mine rare earths, sell it to America with no impediments, no, you know, taxes or tariffs for an extended time.

00:24:51.800 Pow! China's strategic advantage over rare earth minerals just disappeared.

00:24:56.220 And remember Carney mumbled something about LNG? Yeah, Trump just signed a deal on that, too. Let me read it to you.

00:25:06.420 America will sell, Malaysia will, quote, purchase up to 5 million tons per annum of liquefied natural gas, estimated at up to $3.4 billion per year.

00:25:17.940 And unlike Canada, the U.S. has plenty of LNG liquefaction plants.

00:25:22.300 They frack the natural gas, they pipe it to the ports, they liquefy it, and they put it on ships to Asia.

00:25:27.820 They're doing that now. We have a single LNG plant that's operational, and it's just started, and it's not even up to full speed yet, and there's problems with it.

00:25:36.100 And the grand total it's shipped ever is less than a million tons.

00:25:40.120 Now, I'm rooting for it. I hope Carney doesn't kill it, or the other LNG projects that are trying to get built.

00:25:46.620 I hope Carney doesn't kill the gas pipelines to feed these LNG plants.

00:25:50.580 But Trump just signed a 5 million ton a year deal with Malaysia, while we're still figuring out where our naval is.

00:25:57.240 Oh, yeah, and then this part of the deal.

00:26:00.040 Procurement of 30 aircraft plus a purchase option for 30 additional aircraft.

00:26:05.060 Now, I'm not sure if those are fighter jets that America would sell, or passenger jets, but that in itself is a multi-billion dollar coup.

00:26:14.400 I'm not going to read the whole deal. I'd characterize it two ways.

00:26:16.800 Number one, Malaysia pays to sell its goods into America, and agrees to let America sell significant goods into Malaysia on favored terms.

00:26:25.100 But more importantly, America locks in Malaysia's rare earths, dealing a blow to China's ambitions in the region. 0.82

00:26:30.900 So, yeah, one meeting, ASEAN, two different leaders, Carney and Trump.

00:26:37.540 Based on what you've seen, Trump is absolutely going to devour Carney, isn't he?

00:26:45.600 Stay with us for more.

00:26:46.760 Well, I think that Alberta is the crucible, the laboratory for conservative and freedom-oriented and smaller government ideas in Canada.

00:27:06.800 In fact, I think you could argue that it has been that place for more than a century.

00:27:11.340 A lot of political leaders, a lot of political parties come out of Alberta.

00:27:14.540 And right now, a movement that has a fair bit of life to it is the Alberta independence movement.

00:27:21.140 And as you may know, Rebel News had some town hall meetings in Calgary, Red Deer, Edmonton, and even one in Saskatoon.

00:27:27.200 Hundreds of people came out just to explore the ideas.

00:27:30.540 Well, a couple of days ago, there was a rally outdoors in the cool weather in Edmonton,

00:27:35.540 Edmonton, and thousands and thousands of people came.

00:27:41.520 And one of them was our friend, Sheila Gunn-Reed, our chief reporter.

00:27:44.360 She joins us now via Zoom.

00:27:47.200 Hey, Sheila, how was it?

00:27:48.340 What was it like?

00:27:49.380 First of all, who sponsored the rally?

00:27:52.320 How many people were there?

00:27:53.360 Who spoke?

00:27:54.040 Just give us some facts about it.

00:27:55.580 Sure, Ezra, it was an incredible sea of blue.

00:28:01.200 It was just nothing but Alberta flags and thousands of people.

00:28:04.840 Now, there are some disputes over how many people were there.

00:28:07.180 I asked the police on scene, take this for what you will.

00:28:09.940 They said between 5,000 and 6,000, which is still...

00:28:12.740 Really? That's huge.

00:28:14.000 It's an enormous number for a nonpartisan political rally.

00:28:18.660 The only rally I've seen bigger would be Polyev's final rally in Edmonton.

00:28:24.380 That was like 12,000 to 14,000.

00:28:26.100 But this is nonpartisan.

00:28:27.940 There's no political money backing it the way that it would back a political party.

00:28:34.860 The organizers, the Alberta Prosperity Project, organized this on kind of short order,

00:28:40.440 not too long, maybe a couple of weeks.

00:28:42.220 Their numbers, using drone footage and some analysis of that, suggest closer to 10 or 12,000.

00:28:49.360 I would believe either one of those numbers.

00:28:51.520 It's hard to get a grasp on how big a crowd is when you're in the middle of it and all you see

00:28:57.820 is just a sea of humanity.

00:29:00.740 For example, I thought there was people sort of up top of the plaza because they ran out

00:29:06.640 of room on the plaza.

00:29:07.560 And I thought, oh, those are the antis.

00:29:09.520 Those are the counter protesters.

00:29:11.540 I went up there.

00:29:12.800 Nope, same rally.

00:29:13.940 Just they ran out of room and it was up top.

00:29:16.180 It was just an enormous bunch of people.

00:29:18.380 We had Jeffrey Rath.

00:29:19.760 He's the lawyer who undead much of Jason Kenney's COVID madness here.

00:29:25.340 We had trucker lawyer Keith Wilson.

00:29:27.780 He spoke.

00:29:28.500 There were other Alberta Prosperity Project linked people, but also Chris Scott.

00:29:36.260 So the Whistle Stop Cafe owner who stood up at great personal cost against the COVID mandates.

00:29:43.360 And now he's standing up for Alberta independence.

00:29:45.960 Well, we know all those folks.

00:29:49.340 Very interesting.

00:29:50.580 Now, you mentioned counter protesters.

00:29:52.860 Were there any?

00:29:54.460 I guess.

00:29:55.780 I ran up to take a look.

00:29:57.720 And I was safe to do that, not only because I was in thousands of friendly folks, but because

00:30:03.740 the police were guarding these antis pretty carefully.

00:30:07.900 There were about a dozen or so police officers guarding about eight counter protesters.

00:30:14.280 They look exactly how you would imagine they look.

00:30:17.920 There was one openly Antifa guy waving an Antifa flag.

00:30:23.360 There was, you know, your obligatory Handmaid's Tale LARPer.

00:30:28.740 She was there.

00:30:29.500 The ladies of the left need a new book. 1.00

00:30:32.000 They really do.

00:30:33.500 But, you know, there was just eight people, you know, your regular left-wing kooks from

00:30:38.860 downtown Edmonton that wandered down there.

00:30:40.920 But that was it, really.

00:30:42.160 Well, I suppose if they use plural pronouns, that would double the number.

00:30:45.820 So there's eight people there, but they all call themselves they, them.

00:30:48.760 Maybe that's like 16 people.

00:30:49.900 I don't know.

00:30:50.120 I don't know how the math works.

00:30:51.820 Now, I saw this clip.

00:30:54.120 It sort of made me smile.

00:30:55.700 A couple years ago, when Danielle Smith was running for the UCP, United Conservative Party

00:31:01.320 leadership, there was a forum held by the Alberta Prosperity Project.

00:31:05.780 And if you can believe it, they asked me to be one of the emcees in this debate.

00:31:09.560 So it was a forum and a debate.

00:31:11.700 And I put a question to Danielle Smith, which I guess they liked because they played it.

00:31:18.020 Yeah.

00:31:18.560 And the answer at the rally.

00:31:20.280 And didn't that make me feel good?

00:31:21.960 Here, let's play a clip of that.

00:31:23.840 This is at the big rally.

00:31:25.980 The audio is from a couple years ago, though, when I moderated the debate.

00:31:30.100 Here, take a look.

00:31:30.800 Ezra, I hope your eyes are better after getting pepper sprayed over in Ireland.

00:31:34.100 I think it was this week, but he asked a question during the leadership campaign for

00:31:39.560 the United Conservative Party.

00:31:42.680 And Danielle Smith was the one who answered, Kerry, get the audio. 0.64

00:31:49.680 Economic minority.

00:31:50.880 But they did something different.

00:31:52.860 They had an or else added to the end of it.

00:31:55.520 How far are you willing to go?

00:31:57.880 Are you willing to say, we want these things or else?

00:32:01.960 At what stage would you, for example, invoke the Clarity Act as clarified by the Supreme

00:32:08.320 Court?

00:32:08.860 For example, calling a referendum on the Clarity Act question of secession.

00:32:13.140 Do you have an or else in mind?

00:32:16.100 What is it and what would make you use it?

00:32:18.560 And if not, how are you serious?

00:32:21.400 And I'll start off with Danielle Smith on that one.

00:32:24.100 The or else is Dennis Modry and the Alberta Prosperity Project.

00:32:32.540 It's true.

00:32:33.920 We complained into law on April the 7th, the Citizen Initiative Act, which gives the people

00:32:41.180 the power to collect signatures for a petition campaign to propose an amendment.

00:32:45.960 If it's a simple matter of policy, it's a 10% threshold.

00:32:49.300 If it's a constitutional change, it's a 20% threshold.

00:32:52.900 That would mean 600,000 signatures.

00:32:56.340 And as I understand it, Dr. Modry has a million people on his database.

00:33:00.500 So part of when I decided I wanted to run, I knew how important it was to make sure that

00:33:05.280 we address the issues of autonomy.

00:33:06.720 And I talked to Dr. Modry as one of my first steps.

00:33:08.920 I said, let's try this together.

00:33:11.080 Let's get as much autonomy as we can.

00:33:14.080 Full well knowing that he's got the power.

00:33:16.380 You've got the power.

00:33:17.240 If we're not successful, and this is why I take your movement very, very seriously and

00:33:22.740 why Justin Trudeau should take it very, very seriously too, because you have the power to

00:33:26.760 be able to be the or else.

00:33:28.220 Well, that's sort of fun, but I think it is the essential point.

00:33:35.300 I mean, in politics, you can take your base for granted if they have nowhere else to go.

00:33:42.780 I suppose your base can, quote, stay home.

00:33:44.920 But if you can, like, can you take Alberta for granted?

00:33:52.060 Can any party take Alberta for granted?

00:33:55.160 Well, if there's no or else, then the answer is yeah, probably.

00:33:58.640 And my question to Danielle Smith, who's now the premier, implied, let's say you try and

00:34:05.280 fail like so many Albertan leaders have tried and failed before.

00:34:09.880 Are you willing to push that button, that independence button?

00:34:13.580 And her answer is sort of, right?

00:34:17.460 Because she's allowing the referendum and making it a little bit easier. 0.69

00:34:20.820 She's sort of neutral about it.

00:34:22.580 But the fact that she would give it her blessing itself is a big positive.

00:34:26.400 How did this crowd sound in regards to Danielle Smith?

00:34:30.020 Because in a way, she's enabled their referendum, but she's not sort of cheering for it.

00:34:34.880 I think she's taking a neutral stance, which is probably wise.

00:34:39.400 What's the mood about her?

00:34:40.980 You know, I didn't meet a single person there who would not have been a UCP voter, like a

00:34:48.720 United Conservative Party voter.

00:34:50.100 I think the Venn diagram, as they say, on these people being Conservative Party voters,

00:34:56.520 United Conservative Party voters, it's a circle.

00:34:59.600 These are the UCP base.

00:35:01.700 And as I said in my upcoming video on this, you discard these people at your peril.

00:35:07.200 I think they are people who are perfectly happy to have Danielle Smith fight with the

00:35:13.220 feds, fight for provincial autonomy, fight for our jobs, fight for our pipelines, fight

00:35:17.400 for our firearms rights.

00:35:19.340 But in the meantime, do all that while they work towards independence.

00:35:26.720 They're not anti-Danielle Smith.

00:35:29.060 In fact, I think a lot of people appreciate her hands-off approach.

00:35:32.420 I don't think people want political meddling.

00:35:35.080 And yet, there's the likes of Jason Kenney, who repeatedly goes after the Sovereignist movement

00:35:41.720 as in the same language that Justin Trudeau used to go after the Freedom Convoy.

00:35:47.740 These are a bunch of fringe.

00:35:49.080 These are a bunch of radicals. 0.92

00:35:50.400 These are a bunch of wackos. 1.00

00:35:51.900 Yahoo's.

00:35:52.460 They sure didn't look that way to me when I was there.

00:35:55.240 In fact, there are people who likely voted for Jason Kenney in the past.

00:35:59.640 You know, I mean, Jason Kenney is a pundit out there, but he's also in private business.

00:36:04.460 And sometimes I wonder who his clients are.

00:36:06.220 And if he's speaking for himself or for his clients, I'm not quite sure.

00:36:09.960 Let me ask you a question, because I've been focused on Mark Carney, and he has been really

00:36:16.800 wobbly in his negotiations with Donald Trump.

00:36:19.160 He promised he would be the guy who could handle Trump better than anyone else.

00:36:23.480 Turns out he's the guy who Trump doesn't want to meet with over anyone else.

00:36:27.980 Like, Trump will literally, he's cutting deals every day, but he will not talk with Carney.

00:36:32.780 It's sort of weird to watch.

00:36:34.820 But I'm listening to Carney anyway.

00:36:36.400 He was in Malaysia, and he said Canada has clean energy to offer, and we have what the

00:36:46.600 world wants.

00:36:47.240 He's basically been saying that for a while.

00:36:49.920 But I don't know what he means by clean energy.

00:36:52.000 I think he means LNG, liquefied natural gas.

00:36:54.480 But I don't think he means oil, even though places like India and basically everyone in

00:37:02.820 the world would prefer to buy our oil if they could.

00:37:06.600 Do you think Mark Carney is going to allow a pipeline of oil to be built?

00:37:11.880 I actually think he'll approve LNG.

00:37:15.520 Do you think he's going to allow any oil?

00:37:17.800 No, absolutely not.

00:37:21.080 That's why I wasn't such a cheerleader for Bill C-5 when it was being rammed through the

00:37:26.100 House of Commons.

00:37:27.560 I don't think the government should be deciding private projects that are in the nation's

00:37:33.680 interest.

00:37:34.260 They should meet a specific criteria for safety, and then that's it.

00:37:38.980 The government should get out of the way.

00:37:40.180 But when they attach this in the nation's interest to it, what I believe is in the nation's

00:37:45.240 interest and what the liberals believe are in the nation's interest are two far different

00:37:49.360 things.

00:37:49.740 You're going to see, I think, all sorts of green energy projects being approved in the

00:37:56.020 nation's interest and a lot of liberal linked friends and insiders being enriched by these

00:38:00.900 projects that are being approved because they're in the nation's interest.

00:38:04.380 But do I believe that a pipeline will go forward?

00:38:07.720 No.

00:38:07.980 And like the liberals before him, Mark Carney is offloading the voice of no to somebody

00:38:14.480 else so he can say, look, I tried.

00:38:16.020 I kept my hands clean.

00:38:17.360 David Eby says no.

00:38:19.220 And Quebec says no.

00:38:20.560 It's not me saying no.

00:38:22.020 Can't you see?

00:38:22.740 I tried.

00:38:23.720 And so do I think that any of these projects that are in the nation's interest related to

00:38:29.660 Alberta are going to go forward?

00:38:30.720 Absolutely not.

00:38:32.000 When Mark Carney says that the world wants what Canada has, I think he means maybe.

00:38:37.980 Liquified natural gas, which is fine.

00:38:40.440 But I think some weird, quirky green project too, like offloading some sort of weird green

00:38:48.040 tech that's developed in Canada for a gajillion dollars to Brookfield Asset Management.

00:38:53.820 That's what I think he means.

00:38:55.100 You know, when I was in Bermuda for four hours earlier this year trying to track down one

00:39:00.440 of his shell companies, I discovered them in Bermuda.

00:39:03.460 All his green companies have this sort of storefront office in Bermuda.

00:39:08.120 None of them operate there, by the way.

00:39:09.960 It's just basically compliance lawyers and clerks.

00:39:12.360 And he hasn't sold any of his stock.

00:39:15.240 He has still held on to all his stock and he makes money with these green schemes.

00:39:20.500 And just, I mean, 99 plus percent of his stocks are foreign.

00:39:25.940 He just doesn't believe in Canadian companies.

00:39:28.640 In fact, his last act as head of Brookfield was to move their head office out of Canada.

00:39:33.060 I think, you say there's between 6,000 and 12,000 people at the separate independence rally

00:39:39.920 in Edmonton.

00:39:41.260 When it becomes clear, when you get a hard no on a pipeline, I think then you will see

00:39:48.400 those numbers skyrocket.

00:39:49.820 Right now, people are trying to understand Carney.

00:39:52.580 What does he mean?

00:39:53.700 He speaks in foggy emanations.

00:39:57.380 It's tough to understand him.

00:39:58.860 But he's been Prime Minister for almost 230 days, which is a lot more than it feels like

00:40:06.500 because he hasn't done a bloody thing.

00:40:08.700 Right.

00:40:09.400 And it's coming up on a full year.

00:40:13.020 And what exactly has he done?

00:40:15.920 In my monologue today, I point out Trump, he lands in Malaysia, announces a peace treaty,

00:40:20.580 announces a trade deal, moves on to Japan.

00:40:22.880 Mark Carney talked for five minutes.

00:40:25.440 No one was in the hall listening to him.

00:40:26.920 And he met with Laos.

00:40:30.200 Nice people, I'm sure.

00:40:31.540 But the total Canadian exports to Laos last year were $18 million with an M, not a B, not

00:40:37.560 billion, $18 million.

00:40:38.920 Like, what are you even doing meeting with the Laotian leader?

00:40:46.600 It's costing you.

00:40:47.940 I mean, are you going to increase trade by 10%?

00:40:51.000 And just the paperwork on that trade, like, it was such a joke.

00:40:54.660 I don't know.

00:40:55.420 I'm worried.

00:40:57.020 I think that, I think you're right.

00:41:00.580 He's delegating the good cop, bad cop.

00:41:03.820 I mean, Doug Ford was the bad cop attacking Trump.

00:41:07.120 EB's the bad cop blocking pipelines.

00:41:09.340 I think that this is, it's the old Mark Carney, the green scheme, sustainable, yeah, I think

00:41:16.720 he is.

00:41:17.620 Yeah.

00:41:17.920 You know how I know there's no pipelines getting built in Canada?

00:41:20.800 Brookfield is heavily invested in pipelines in other places.

00:41:24.140 That's how I know.

00:41:25.260 If Brookfield were heavily invested in pipelines in Canada, then Canada would get pipelines.

00:41:29.740 But Mark Carney's policies are whatever is good for Brookfield.

00:41:33.180 And there's a Brazilian pipeline that Brookfield is invested in and another one in the United

00:41:38.080 States.

00:41:38.760 And blocking Canadian pipelines is good business for Brookfield.

00:41:42.540 Yeah.

00:41:43.140 Oh, wow.

00:41:44.080 Well, I'm so glad you were there.

00:41:45.400 And it was quite something I'm going to try and make the next rally myself.

00:41:48.060 I love going to big rallies.

00:41:49.720 Sometimes they're in Dublin.

00:41:51.100 Sometimes they're in London.

00:41:52.380 I should at least go to the ones in my, the province of my birth.

00:41:55.180 So Sheila, keep me posted on those rallies.

00:41:57.160 I'll go to the next one.

00:41:58.280 All right.

00:41:58.660 You know what?

00:41:59.220 Before you, before you let me go, I have to tell you, usually when I go to these things,

00:42:03.820 people are asking me, did David Menzies ever get his whiskey?

00:42:06.500 But a lot of people were asking me, how's Ezra?

00:42:09.460 How, how is he post his incidents, incidents in Dublin?

00:42:15.720 They're very worried about you.

00:42:17.240 So your province of your birth cares about you as much as you care about them.

00:42:20.740 Well, thank you very much.

00:42:21.640 You know what?

00:42:22.080 I think there's a reference.

00:42:23.340 I was in Dublin.

00:42:23.860 I got pepper sprayed, which, you know, it's really painful when it's in your eye, but

00:42:29.060 you wash it out and the pain goes away in 10 minutes.

00:42:32.040 It's not the end of the world.

00:42:33.720 And, you know, I'm not saying I wanted it to happen, but it's sort of a, you know, a

00:42:38.000 coming of age, I suppose, as a street journalist.

00:42:40.480 Being assaulted, being jumped on by some, some guy in a, in a mask was not my idea of fun.

00:42:47.040 And I feel like I got away lucky there.

00:42:48.900 I mean, I had no injuries.

00:42:50.180 They didn't even break my glasses, which is sort of surprising, but yeah, I mean, Dublin,

00:42:55.380 that's a whole different thing.

00:42:56.500 I, I prefer our Canadian ways.

00:42:58.000 I, I don't, I don't, I think once you open the door to violence, you know, it just spins

00:43:04.620 out of control.

00:43:05.160 But listen, Ireland has a different history.

00:43:07.640 They have a different culture, a different, you know, they rebelled again.

00:43:10.820 Hey, I'm talking too much about Ireland, but they, they are rebels and they mean it. 0.80

00:43:15.500 And, um, anyway, I love going over there to learn.

00:43:18.680 Uh, I'm just going to try not to be the, the, the target.

00:43:22.060 Learn the hard way.

00:43:23.040 That's right.

00:43:23.880 Well, thank you for passing on those regards.

00:43:25.880 All right.

00:43:26.160 Sheila, thanks for going there.

00:43:27.180 I'll be at the next independence rally.

00:43:29.020 That's for sure.

00:43:29.740 All right, folks, stay with us.

00:43:30.820 Your Letters to Me next.

00:43:41.740 Hey, welcome back.

00:43:42.720 Your Letters to Me on the show this past Friday, Trevor Boyne says, notice how Doug Ford mentions

00:43:48.900 all provinces, but does not mention Alberta.

00:43:52.120 Yeah.

00:43:52.260 I mean, his approach, just shouting, calling everyone a tyrant, running $75 million worth

00:43:57.280 of attack ads.

00:43:58.380 It ain't working.

00:43:59.420 Then Danielle Smith went down to Washington politely, was not obsequious, just said, look,

00:44:04.600 guys, I'm here to make a deal.

00:44:06.200 I'm here showing respect.

00:44:08.200 Can we work on this?

00:44:09.720 Um, Danielle Smith has been utterly vindicated. 0.99

00:44:12.780 Doug Ford has been shown to be a destructive buffoon. 0.96

00:44:16.620 So of course he's jealous of Danielle Smith. 0.82

00:44:19.820 Susan Ashbrook writes, really enjoyed your discussion with Keith Wilson tonight.

00:44:23.340 Was eyeopening.

00:44:24.380 Thank you.

00:44:24.700 Keith predicted it, that Donald Trump would be enraged when he learned that in

00:44:29.300 fact, the ad was not canceled as promised, but run ran during the World Series.

00:44:33.620 And I mean, just put the shoe on the other foot.

00:44:35.700 Imagine if Trump was running attack ads against Mark Carney in, in districts where there was

00:44:42.820 a by-election of foot or something, I don't know, like attack ads.

00:44:46.620 And by the way, even if the attack ads are right, even if Doug Ford's attack ad on Donald

00:44:52.100 Trump is correct, you're at a, you're at a negotiating table.

00:44:56.920 You're trying to reason with them.

00:44:59.160 This is you saying, I'm going to mess you up.

00:45:01.940 That's my negotiating tactic is to have an external threat to you.

00:45:07.520 Who would have thought that would work?

00:45:10.480 Last letter from Ruth Bard, who says, when Carney speaks, I'm reminded of the ads from the 70s

00:45:14.740 about how they got the caramel in the caramel bar.

00:45:19.120 Unadulterated gobbledygook.

00:45:20.560 Yeah, you know, there are some industry leaders who can think clearly and speak clearly.

00:45:28.420 And you can tell that their clear speaking is a reflection of their clear mind.

00:45:34.800 And then there's the opposite, the absolute BSers.

00:45:38.000 You see them more in politics and journalism.

00:45:41.380 In companies, you typically don't see that in a CEO.

00:45:44.580 You would see that in a mid-level bureaucrat.

00:45:47.600 I mean, just think of Elon Musk.

00:45:48.860 Whatever else the guy is, he's a blunt communicator.

00:45:52.340 He says exactly what's on his mind.

00:45:54.580 He might go down different tangents, but he is crystal clear about what he means, even

00:45:59.140 if he's quite technical.

00:46:01.140 Mark Carney uses words to obscure, not to reveal.

00:46:05.420 And I think that's how he ran Brookfield.

00:46:09.080 And as Keith mentioned, Keith Wilson mentioned, he didn't really run Brookfield.

00:46:13.800 He was the chairman of it.

00:46:15.540 And Brookfield itself doesn't really run things.

00:46:17.700 As they just acquire things and hold them, I think we've got a terrible prime minister

00:46:22.120 on our hands, and it's just dawning on me.

00:46:24.820 That's our show for today.

00:46:26.520 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good

00:46:30.000 night.

00:46:30.860 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:46:31.900 Thank you.

00:46:37.180 Thank you.

00:46:37.720 Thank you.

00:46:38.140 Thank you.

00:46:39.580 Thank you.

00:46:40.520 Thank you.

00:46:41.020 Thank you.

00:46:41.680 Thank you.

00:46:53.020 And have you?

Rebel News Podcast - October 27, 2025

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trump steals the show at ASEAN as Carney fumbles abroad

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