Rebel News Podcast - August 15, 2025


EZRA LEVANT | UK police crack down on catcalling while rape crisis rages on


Episode Stats

Length

38 minutes

Words per Minute

163.09148

Word Count

6,242

Sentence Count

481

Misogynist Sentences

26

Hate Speech Sentences

32


Summary

The United Kingdom has a rape problem, but to distract from the real source of the problem, the UK police are sending out women, attractive women, in tight-fitting jogging outfits, and then capturing anyone who catcalls them. And then the police jump in. It s a crazy non-crime exercise to distract the actual rape crimes in that country.


Transcript

00:00:00.160 Hello, my friends. The United Kingdom has a massive rape problem, but to distract from
00:00:05.220 the real source of the problem, the UK police are sending out women, attractive women, in
00:00:10.960 tight-fitting jogging outfits and then capturing anyone who catcalls them. I've got the video
00:00:16.660 to prove it. But first, let me invite you to become a subscriber to what we call Rebel
00:00:20.920 News Plus. It's the video version of this podcast. And I'd like you to see these joggers.
00:00:25.540 They're going out jogging. They're sort of, they're not quite supermodels or anything,
00:00:29.080 but they're very pretty policewomen who are going out jogging to trap men into whistling
00:00:34.200 or complimenting them or even honking their horns. And then the police jump in. It's a crazy
00:00:40.020 non-crime exercise to distract from the actual rape crimes in that country.
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00:01:25.920 Tonight, Britain has become Europe's rape capital, but police have bigger crimes to investigate,
00:01:46.300 including honking at pretty women. It's August 14th, and this is the Ezra LeVance Show.
00:01:52.020 You're ready for freedom. Shame on you, you censorious bug.
00:02:07.640 I keep watching those migrant hotels in the UK that I visited a few weeks ago. There was one in
00:02:14.360 a small town called Epping that now has another alleged rape committed by a migrant resident in
00:02:22.420 the hotel there. This craziness isn't stopping. And in London, you might remember I went to Canary
00:02:28.920 Wharf, which is really a fancy financial sector neighborhood. They've taken over a four-star hotel.
00:02:35.440 There's protesters there. And one man who, I have to say, looked demonic. He broke into the country
00:02:42.240 a couple of weeks ago. And then yesterday, he broke into someone's house. Take a look.
00:02:48.280 This is the guy. This is him. He's been trying to walk into a girl's house on the IOD. We watched
00:02:54.740 her chase him. Now he's trying to cover his face. Look. Police, police. We caught you, mate. We
00:03:03.580 caught you. We caught you. This man in this vehicle, this man in this vehicle has just entered a lady's
00:03:11.200 property without her consent. And these officers have said it's not an offence. They're letting
00:03:17.100 him go. They're letting him go. Officer, how is that? How is that not an offence? How is
00:03:24.860 it not an offence entering someone's house? Regardless, she didn't want him in the house.
00:03:30.660 So he was chased out before he could harm the children. Walked into the house, walked into
00:03:59.600 the bathroom. He was chased out before he could do anything. Police said, oh, well, since
00:04:04.940 he didn't do anything, it's not an arrestable offence. They actually said that. Take a look.
00:04:10.660 You guys are quite unhappy about it. But we have no allegation to arrest people. Okay? I understand
00:04:17.100 that. That's not something you want to hear. But obviously, there's only so many people here.
00:04:21.220 Obviously, she's the main person there. And she does want to arrest people. She does want
00:04:28.220 to arrest people. She does want to arrest people. She does want to arrest people.
00:04:32.280 What's the allegation to arrest people? What's the allegation to arrest people?
00:04:37.860 Here's a couple of lads who were there on the scene. Upon leaving Tiller Road, we turn right
00:04:43.220 into Bing Street to where we see a lady leaving her property and an illegal immigrant who we
00:04:48.260 recently see, just before that, leaving the hotel. We pull over. He's trying to gain entrance
00:04:55.280 into the lady's house to where we say to the man, like, what are you doing? He decides to
00:05:00.040 run, nearly getting hit by the car that we're in. We follow him up the road to where we jump
00:05:05.720 out and say, like, mate, what are you doing? You can't be doing this sort of stuff. He runs
00:05:09.340 up the road to Marshall where we follow him. We then detain him. We don't touch him. We
00:05:15.000 phone the police and we say to the police, like, come down. This is what's happened.
00:05:19.620 They turn up. Once they turn up, this is where the two-tier policing comes into play. They
00:05:25.460 turn up. And when they turn up, they tell us that they can't arrest a man because of it's
00:05:33.120 only trespassing. He didn't say anything. He didn't want to touch anything in their property,
00:05:38.560 which they don't know because of the girl managed to get him out of her property. They
00:05:45.220 put the man in their vehicle and drive him to return him to the Britannia Hotel on the
00:05:50.320 Isle of Dogs, Canary Wolf. We then get down there. And then when we get down there, that's
00:05:54.800 where all the two-tier policing starts. They say they can't arrest a man through trespassing,
00:06:00.440 not being a criminal offence, a civil matter. What's he doing in there? What's he doing in
00:06:04.440 the property in the first place? What's his intentions of going into their house? And
00:06:08.260 then once we get down there, they then started issuing, what was this? Section 35. So the
00:06:16.200 old bill said, you've got to leave the property and you can't come back to two o'clock in the
00:06:19.200 morning. You might find this hard to believe, but the migrant was not charged, but the home
00:06:25.100 owner was because she wouldn't disperse. Just absolute two-tier policing. And we're starting
00:06:32.140 to get that way in Canada too, aren't we? Imagine saying trespass is not an arrestable
00:06:36.940 offense. I really worry for the United Kingdom. By the way, I'm very excited about this news.
00:06:44.500 We have a new contributor from the UK. That way I don't have to fly over there all the time,
00:06:50.100 even though I love it. Emma Dunwell did this demo video for us, which I love so much. We published
00:06:57.880 it here. We won't run the whole thing. You can watch it on our channel, but I think she's doing
00:07:02.440 a great job. Take a look at this. This is Emma Dunwell reporting for Rebel News. And today I am
00:07:07.640 in Waterlooville near Portsmouth, and I'm just outside of Boots on London Street, the flats above
00:07:14.120 which were proposed by the Home Office to be used to house 35 asylum seekers. This then faced
00:07:20.060 massive local backlash that turned national with figures like Suella Braverman calling it an
00:07:24.560 inappropriate decision. And a protest was held about two weeks ago where about 2,000 people turned
00:07:29.640 up calling the decision undemocratic. The Home Office, since the protest, has reversed their decision
00:07:34.800 to house the asylum seekers here.
00:07:36.340 I don't agree with anything at all with illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is what it
00:07:50.460 says. It is illegal and nothing is done about it. These people aren't vetted. We don't know
00:07:55.500 what they've done, where they've come from, whether they're criminals or not. But these are
00:08:00.140 illegal migrants and they are not refugees. I won't walk through a park in the daytime.
00:08:05.420 And I think the priorities are wrong. I think we should be housing our own homeless first
00:08:10.020 because they're the ones that paid the taxes. I think they should start putting Britain first,
00:08:15.120 British people first, and then not. That's Emma Dunwell. And I hope to have a lot more videos
00:08:22.400 from her. She's a young woman who's doing citizen journalism. I think she's got a really good style
00:08:26.900 job. And hopefully she can be our feet on the ground. I'll still go over there from time to
00:08:31.080 time, of course. But I think she's doing a great job. The United Kingdom has something unusual
00:08:37.640 in the West. And I'm sorry to talk about it. Whenever I talk about it, I feel like it's a
00:08:43.240 little bit gross. It's an adult conversation. It's about something called a rape gang.
00:08:48.400 In North America, we have rape. Typically, it's a smash and grab situation or someone trapped in a
00:08:56.080 situation. And it's a one-off. It could be random. It's terrible. It's horrific. In North America,
00:09:05.860 you hear help, rape, and men go to help the woman victim. In the United Kingdom, they have a different
00:09:13.140 phenomenon that I hope we are unfamiliar with in Canada. I hope it never comes here. It is the rape
00:09:19.780 gang. Tens, 20, 30 men raping together or consecutively, the same girls night after night.
00:09:31.060 So it's not a random mugging style smash and grab. It is young children, as young as 11, 12 years old
00:09:39.660 girls who are tricked and groomed and extorted. And then they're forced to have sex with a gang of men
00:09:47.100 every night, sometimes for years. You may have seen this image that I've shown before. It's the
00:09:55.320 front page of a newspaper when 1,400 girls in the small city of Rotherham, UK, about 100,000 people
00:10:04.380 were raped for years by overwhelmingly Pakistani Muslim men. How does it happen? How does it happen
00:10:14.140 that men would rape together as a dark team? Well, part of it comes from the rape culture
00:10:22.780 in Pakistan. The fact that there's a high level of trust and secrecy amongst the men because of clan
00:10:29.420 ties, because of cousin marriage, believe it or not. I mean, who could you possibly just engage in a
00:10:37.700 dark thought experiment? If you were to commit such a horrific crime, really a crime tantamount to
00:10:44.840 murder, could you name one other person, let alone 5 or 10 or 20 or 30, that would commit this most
00:10:54.860 diabolical crime with you night after night and keep the secret with you? It's unthinkable in Western
00:11:02.880 society. And by the way, in Rotherham, policemen got in on it. Politicians got in on it. It's
00:11:10.660 something specific to Pakistani Muslim culture. And I know that sounds very racist. I don't think
00:11:17.500 it's racist. It's not the race that's the issue. It's the cultural practices. Here's a story. I wrote
00:11:23.380 about this back in 2014 for the Toronto Sun. Let me read the first couple of paragraphs.
00:11:28.800 Pakistan's troubling rape problem was my headline. This was published in September, 2014.
00:11:38.400 There are 1.5 million street kids in Pakistan, and estimated 90% of them have been sexually abused
00:11:47.340 at some point in their lives. Rape in Pakistan is so common, it's barely taboo. Last week, the Daily
00:11:53.600 Mail interviewed a bus driver from Peshawar, who says after his shift is over, he likes to go into
00:12:00.580 the slums and rape street kids. It was a shocking story in the Daily Mail. Sometimes he pays them a
00:12:08.460 dollar, but often he doesn't. He just joins in a big gang rape. Quote, once there was a boy on the bus
00:12:16.700 and everyone had sex with him, he told the Daily Mail. I did it too, but what else could I do? They
00:12:22.380 invited me. And he was that kind of boy anyways. He says he's raped 12 different children. This wasn't
00:12:29.600 a solitary rapist hiding in the shadows, afraid of being seen or being caught. This was men joining
00:12:35.520 together, unworried about social norms, unworried about someone stopping them. A poll of 1,800 Pakistani
00:12:42.400 men found that a third don't think raping street kids is a crime. And they don't even think it's a
00:12:48.220 bad thing to do. It's a story I wrote 11 years ago when I barely had heard about Rotherham. But do you
00:12:54.640 understand the phenomenon I'm talking about? Rape is so shocking, so taboo, such a heinous crime.
00:13:00.740 It's a capital crime in various parts of the West. But the idea that you would commit it just with
00:13:06.620 other people and you wouldn't tell on them and they wouldn't tell on you and you would join together
00:13:12.240 to commit the crime. It's so unthinkable in the West. But these grooming gangs, as they're
00:13:18.700 misleadingly called, exist en masse in the UK. And that is why the UK has amongst the highest rape
00:13:26.320 rate in the world. It's not Welshman or Englishman or Scots. It's the mass migration from rape culture
00:13:33.480 countries. And finally in the UK, women are leading the counter-protest. Women are standing up
00:13:40.560 as women. Here's a sample of that.
00:13:43.020 Just outside of a tiny hotel. Now you've kicked off what's being called, you know, the pink
00:13:46.860 ladies movement. We've seen it obviously started here last Sunday. I know it's spread to Epping.
00:13:51.440 I think other places are picking up as well. But also women and children, you know, the mothers
00:13:55.040 and grandmothers who've come out to protest against, you know, migrants who committing sexual
00:14:00.120 assault and stuff. Like, are you glad to see the movements growing?
00:14:02.580 Yeah, it's great that it's took a momentum and the other groups, you know, other areas are
00:14:08.880 hooking on. Basically, it's, it's, we don't hate these people. I don't know these people. I can't
00:14:14.860 hate someone I don't know. What I hate, what I hate is the system. That they could go walk
00:14:21.180 freely. And they're all undocumented men. Yeah, in their 20s and 30s. They haven't, they haven't
00:14:28.420 been with a woman for donkeys, well, months and months and months and months. And you're letting
00:14:33.100 them out with our girls who they don't respect. You see? And that's our worry.
00:14:38.360 So that's the UK. But you know all of that. That's what we've been reporting about. But look
00:14:42.380 at this. Here's some news from Surrey, not Surrey BC, the original Surrey in the UK.
00:14:48.360 These women aren't friends out for a run. They're actually undercover police officers
00:14:54.500 taking to the streets in Surrey as part of a new operation trying to stop people catcalling
00:15:00.700 and harassing female runners. We get honked at, they're staring, they're hanging out of
00:15:06.280 the window just to look at us and it just, it's so, so, so prevalent. And police teams are
00:15:12.540 ready to intervene the moment the officers are beeped at, followed or shouted at, pulling
00:15:18.360 people over.
00:15:21.500 Those kind of behaviours may not be criminal offences in themselves, but they still need
00:15:25.460 to be addressed. And of course, the people that are likely to commit those kind of behaviours.
00:15:30.720 Oh really? Here's another video from the Surrey police. Take a look.
00:15:34.120 Hi, I'm Abby. I'm going out on my evening run, afternoon run. I enjoy running. I'm trying
00:15:43.140 to get fitter and trying to get a bit more cardio done. What happens if I do get catcalled?
00:15:47.800 I feel diminished. I feel, it's just, I just feel uncomfortable. It just makes me feel a
00:15:52.860 little bit like, what are they getting out of it? It makes me feel uneasy. And then instantly
00:15:57.080 it's just ruined my run. I just don't want to, I just, yeah.
00:16:00.560 My name is P.C. Abby Hayward. I work out of North Division. So I'm on Runnymede Safer
00:16:07.780 Neighbourhood team. So the change I'd like to see is for people to recognise that it's
00:16:13.140 not right. It's not just a small act. It's a thing that can make someone feel really quite
00:16:18.700 uncomfortable. So I think it's important Surrey Police are taking it so serious. It's one
00:16:22.920 of our forced priorities. And for me, that makes me feel proud to work for Surrey Police,
00:16:27.700 because for me, it's such a personal experience. And I know for a lot of other, if not all other
00:16:32.540 women who experience it. You know, being grabbed off the streets
00:16:36.880 and raped in a dark corner, that is a problem, but it's not as widespread as the grooming gangs
00:16:42.460 who go after vulnerable children again and again. This idea that joggers, though, should
00:16:49.420 be able to jog in skin tight Lululemon clothing without anyone winking at them or saying, what's
00:16:56.100 up baby or other catcalling? That is not threats, not, you know, crimes, just hooting and hollering
00:17:05.020 or whistling. The idea that that should be a police priority in an age of gang rapes is
00:17:12.440 a luxury belief. The police should stop catcalling as opposed to fighting real crime, especially
00:17:19.280 rapes. It's not actually policing at all, is it? It's so obviously a misdirection. Look
00:17:28.840 over there. Stop talking about rapes from rape gang. Stop talking about migrant rapes. Look
00:17:34.480 over there. Some pretty girls are jogging and some white guy whistled at her. Cops go after
00:17:40.400 that. What a crazy story the United Kingdom has become. Stay with us for more.
00:17:57.180 It is human nature to be aware of dangerous things. We teach this to children. Beware of
00:18:02.920 strangers, stranger danger. It's a natural instinct. Fear is an important emotion over the generations.
00:18:11.920 It is a evolutionary strategy to stay safe. And there's nothing more innate than parents
00:18:20.880 protecting children from other predators, including other adults who would have their way with them.
00:18:27.360 And one of the tactics that is necessary by people who take advantage of young children
00:18:33.960 is to defeat that natural reflex, that defensiveness, that revulsion or fear when an adult presents
00:18:43.740 himself in an inappropriate way to a child. There's a psychological term called DARVO. It's an
00:18:48.740 acronym. Deny, accuse, reverse victim, and offender. What I mean by that is if there's a sexual offender,
00:18:57.700 who is challenged on that, one of the manipulative techniques, a form of gaslighting is to flip
00:19:03.720 things around and say, no, no, you are the offender. I'm the victim. I didn't do anything wrong. You did.
00:19:12.320 And it's a strategy that is implicit in the fight against transphobia. Let me be more specific what
00:19:20.900 I'm saying because I'm speaking perhaps too abstractly. How do you get mama bears? How do you get
00:19:26.880 mothers to back away and let men, including grown men, have access to their girls in a change room?
00:19:35.140 How do you defeat that maternal protective instinct? How do you defeat that instinct in teenage girls
00:19:43.300 to stay away from men in a change room? If you go into a bathroom or a change room and there is a man
00:19:49.220 there, let alone a naked man, the instinct is to withdraw, to call for help, to sound the alarm.
00:19:55.360 But transphobia, a made up word, means that if you do so, darvo, deny, accuse, reverse victim and
00:20:05.780 offender. If you make a fuss about it, if you rely on your instincts that this is a dangerous situation,
00:20:13.100 you are now called the offender and the man in the change room is called the victim. And these are
00:20:20.680 very difficult stories to report on for obvious reasons because anyone who talks about them
00:20:27.180 is darvoed. Anyone who reports about them is called an offender, a transphobe. And in so many of these
00:20:36.140 sports environments, children have been practicing their sport for years since they were very little,
00:20:42.540 and perhaps they're trying to make a national team. And it would wreck it if they got into a political
00:20:48.820 fight. Very hard to report on. Our friend David Menzies is one of only a handful of reporters in Canada
00:20:56.480 who dares to do so. And so I am delighted to see a second reporter covering this beat. Let me read to you
00:21:04.840 a recent headline in True North, our friends in an independent media outlet. Exclusive girl athletes silenced
00:21:15.200 over concerns about male teammate in dorms. Members of Team Nova Scotia's girls volleyball roster returned
00:21:22.860 from the Canada Cup in Toronto under threat of sanctions after raising private concerns
00:21:28.840 against competing against a male teammate. The author is Melanie Bennett, and she joins me now
00:21:35.940 from a secret location in Ontario. Melanie, great to see you again.
00:21:40.360 Hi, Ezra. Thank you for asking me to join your show again.
00:21:42.400 Well, you know, if you keep writing stories like this, I'm going to keep asking you to join the show
00:21:46.580 because I want to hear about it. It is difficult to report because people do not want to pop their
00:21:52.420 head up to warn, to blow the whistle about men in women's change rooms because they'll be
00:21:59.460 denounced as transphobic.
00:22:02.740 Right. But in this case, it's not a man. We're talking about a minor. So it's a boy. As far as I
00:22:08.660 understand, he's 17 years old and the adults around him are the ones I think that require a little bit
00:22:17.340 of scrutiny because this whole story upset me an awful lot when the whistleblower, I guess whistleblower
00:22:24.400 leak, the person came to me. I can't really disclose any of their information, but the whole premise is
00:22:30.480 that this this kid, this young male was included on a team and his his team kept winning and winning
00:22:37.760 and winning and winning and he ended up winning most valuable player, ended up doing the cup in Toronto
00:22:44.160 and some girls complained, some young girls complained. They're all underage, that they're away from their
00:22:49.460 parents out halfway across the country, unaware of what's going on and raised some private concerns,
00:22:57.200 like like you pointed out, private concerns on a private app amongst themselves. I'm sure that young
00:23:02.120 girls knew that they weren't allowed to complain about these sorts of things, given the education
00:23:06.420 that we we give them now. But that wasn't enough. They're not even allowed to complain in private
00:23:12.420 messages that was leaked to the coaches and the girls returned home, like you said, under sanctions.
00:23:18.040 Let me read one of the most infuriating lines from your report. The male's inclusion on the girls
00:23:26.880 provincial team required him to travel to Ontario and share accommodations with female athletes. I
00:23:35.920 remember when I was young and I would go on tours with other high school kids. Of course, you would share
00:23:41.160 hotel rooms with, you know, a couple of beds in the room. You were saving money. And it was same
00:23:47.840 sex. Girls were with girls and boys were with boys. What you're reporting to me is that this 17 year
00:23:53.720 and yet it's a minor, but a 17 year old boy is tantamount to being a man. Certainly physically,
00:24:00.260 a 17 year old is a man. And to have this man be clear, I'll correct you on this. Just to be clear,
00:24:07.000 I'm from what I was told, they didn't actually share rooms. They did have a shared bathroom,
00:24:13.240 but the rooms themselves were private. So the girls weren't sharing rooms at all.
00:24:18.620 Thank you for clarifying that. I'm glad you did. Sharing a bathroom could, you know, I don't know
00:24:25.860 the actual physical setup. Was there a lock on the door, et cetera. So that makes it less acute.
00:24:32.400 I should tell you that the case of Leah Thomas in Pennsylvania that kicked off so many of these
00:24:36.820 protests, he would travel with the girls and, and they're terrified to speak up. And that's what I
00:24:43.940 mean by having your stranger danger instincts dulled. Because if you dare instinctively say,
00:24:50.620 this isn't right, you're the one called a trans folk. Well, listen, these, these girls are terrified
00:24:56.060 too, because if you think about it, they're at an age where next year, uh, like they're elite. Okay.
00:25:01.060 So these are elite youths who are competing at a high level, perhaps for scholarships for, uh, maybe
00:25:07.460 to, to be professional. And so right now there's a male coming in at the, um, at the elite level at 17
00:25:14.180 years old, they have another year of the high school left. And these girls complaining about somebody
00:25:18.800 being in their spaces, possibly taking their, their trophies and their scholarships and, and whatever
00:25:23.980 else, um, they're being threatened with being exposed from the team in their last year. Uh, that would
00:25:30.340 effectively remove them from any possibility in the future. So there's a really heavy hand here by the
00:25:35.540 adults in the situation to keep this quiet. And also I'll point out, um, I saw many communications
00:25:41.420 that I couldn't share because I would identify the people who spoke to me, but it seems to me,
00:25:46.120 they were talking to the coaches and volleyball Canada. We're talking about an LGBTQ plus, I think
00:25:51.760 you called it athlete, but they never specified that this person was a trans identified male in the
00:25:58.580 girls sport. They didn't say that they said LGBTQ plus athlete. So it seems to me there's a lot of
00:26:04.840 effort to hide what's going on and make it look like it's, uh, this, this kid who happens to be
00:26:09.960 gay, who's being bullied, which is not the case at all. He's, he is the bully, even if he's not,
00:26:16.320 uh, expressing himself verbally as the bully, his presence is bullying. And the fact that everyone
00:26:23.320 is terrified to talk about it proves it, um, I see that the coach in your story, coach John Elliott,
00:26:29.980 um, summoned players in a meeting, condemned the chat as disgusting, uh, laced with transphobia,
00:26:40.000 rude and disrespectful. This is pure Darbo. This is how you extort a youth. And you know what? It's
00:26:47.900 funny because one of the things I cover, Melanie, is I look at how these girls in the United Kingdom
00:26:53.240 and I mean, girls, they're, they're as young as 11, um, are, they use the word groomed over there.
00:27:00.680 They're exploited. They're not just raped once they're raped every night for years by scores of
00:27:09.020 men. It is a mass industrial rape. How, how do they get these girls to do it? And through extortion
00:27:16.400 and fear. And if you talk about it, we'll expose you to your mom. And if you talk about it, we'll
00:27:22.200 punish you. Like it's, it is such a psychological extortion of these girls. I see that happening
00:27:30.320 on a grave scale in the UK. Obviously this is not rape. So there's that important distinction,
00:27:37.240 but psychologically terrifying the victims. Don't you say a word? If you do, you're the bad one.
00:27:45.220 We will condemn you. We will ruin your life. It is the same gaslighting tactics. Thank God on a
00:27:52.280 smaller scale, but it's the same species as what I see in the UK. Well, I would agree. I think the,
00:27:58.300 the adults here are bullying. However, I went and looked at the, uh, the policies because I wanted
00:28:03.240 to see if this is actually within their code of ethics and absolutely is in the code of ethics and
00:28:08.240 their policies. They, they do it. There's some research and scientific research apparently that
00:28:12.380 they based it on. And they do recognize that males jump higher, hit harder, uh, serve faster or serve
00:28:18.140 harder, all these things, but that, that wasn't enough really to stop the males within the female
00:28:22.620 sports. Uh, and so they create all these policies to include trans people and obviously keep it quiet
00:28:27.520 from everybody else. And in this case, I think absolutely these girls are being bullied and that
00:28:32.080 bullying by adults and threatening, frankly, is being supported by policies. So unless those policies
00:28:38.620 change, unless, um, the ethics and sports committees actually do anything about this,
00:28:42.940 which at this point, I'm not sure they will, uh, without a significant amount of pressure,
00:28:46.700 this is just going to continue because it's all about protecting the male who happens to be in
00:28:51.180 female sports, uh, from, from any kind of outing, I guess you could say, and exclusion from, from the
00:28:58.700 sport, regardless of the fact that we consistently see males who play on female sports, even with, uh,
00:29:04.940 estrogen, uh, winning best player, they're winning cups, they're winning trophies. And obviously the
00:29:10.220 team that has the male on the team, they like that because their team is, is consistently winning.
00:29:16.060 They have the best player on there. So I think we need to start putting pressure on, on the
00:29:20.780 organizations and the policies that allow this to happen. Yeah. As another way to describe what
00:29:25.900 you're talking about is cheating. There's a reason why sports have different gradations,
00:29:32.460 different ages. You wouldn't have 12 year old hockey players skating against 18 year old hockey
00:29:41.260 players. That's not sport anymore. You wouldn't have a 250 pound super heavyweight boxer fighting
00:29:49.100 against a featherweight. That's not sport anymore. And to get around that is cheating. And when you have
00:29:56.220 someone who's biologically male, I, you know, I don't know the 17 year old biological male to which
00:30:01.660 you refer, but I'm guessing that he was a mediocre athlete on the men's team. And then he decided he
00:30:07.980 wanted to win like so many of these gross us cases. That's a, that's called cheating. The thing is,
00:30:14.620 it's not just cheating. It's putting these girls in a terrible position, violating their, their physical
00:30:20.860 integrity, safety, security, peace of mind. And like you say, stealing the awards from them. I got one
00:30:26.300 last question for you. The United States is going gangbusters in the other direction. The University
00:30:33.180 of Pennsylvania has stripped Leah Thomas of his medals and has re-awarded them to the girls
00:30:38.620 who should have won him. Donald Trump passed an executive order within hours of becoming president,
00:30:45.500 banning this sort of thing and enforcing it through civil rights laws. Universities across the U.S. are
00:30:52.060 complying. So are different sports leagues. It really is a complete pendulum swing back towards
00:30:58.460 women and girls and away from trans extremists. It's actually incredible to behold. Has that U.S.
00:31:06.460 state of affairs or will it cause things to change in Canada? And one of the ways it could
00:31:12.940 is if Canadian teams travel to the U.S. to compete, I presume they wouldn't be allowed to bring their,
00:31:19.580 their trans player along. Is there any sign that that U.S. reaction is coming to Canada?
00:31:26.860 I mean, I would be speculating. What I can say is that within the documents that I saw,
00:31:32.380 there was some recognition that when the athletes play abroad, that there might be different rules.
00:31:36.540 Like for example, in Canada, the males or females who participate on the other side,
00:31:40.620 but really we're talking about males and female sports here, that there's no requirement for them to
00:31:44.620 take any tests like estrogen tests or, not estrogen tests, sorry, hormone tests or anything like that.
00:31:50.060 But they recognize that that might be the case when they go abroad. So there's already sort of
00:31:53.100 provision. Like they understand that the rules might be different in different countries. Whether or not
00:31:57.100 that actually translates, what they're doing in America actually translates in Canada, I don't see
00:32:01.420 any evidence of that happening within our country right now because it seems to me these policies,
00:32:05.900 they, they, they, they're not changing. There's no, there's no conversation around changing gender
00:32:11.260 identity and expression policies, whether it's in sport or education or anything that I've looked
00:32:15.900 at so far now that I think that could change. But it will fire a little bit of pressure for that to
00:32:20.940 happen. Yeah. Well, Melanie, I sure am glad you reported on this story. It's very rare to do so.
00:32:27.900 And I'm sure you've received flack from trans extremists for it. You're smiling. No, no, no,
00:32:36.620 not yet. They haven't noticed. However, I will just say this as we close. I, I reached to obviously reach
00:32:42.060 out to people when I write stories because I want their side of the story. Few people do actually
00:32:46.540 respond to me. And I reached out to the athlete in question because they put their email on their public
00:32:52.380 social media. And I presume that if you're putting email on your public social media,
00:32:56.780 that's advertising you as a fantastic athlete, then you want to be contacted by the media.
00:33:01.900 The athlete's mother got very, very upset with me. How dare I get in touch with a minor
00:33:06.620 and ask such sensitive questions? Of course, she denied everything.
00:33:10.860 But that was, I guess, the only pushback that I got. I didn't, I didn't hear back from anybody yet.
00:33:15.980 So what I'm saying is, I don't think it's necessarily as dangerous to address these issues
00:33:20.300 as people would like to think. I think maybe people are perhaps a little bit too shy
00:33:24.220 and too worried about the impacts on them. I think we just need to be a little bit braver
00:33:28.380 because at the end of the day, you know, I don't have activists coming up on canoes
00:33:32.860 trying to attack me right now, do I? Well, it looks like you would be very difficult to spot
00:33:38.300 and you could defend yourself is my guess. Listen, it's great to chat with you. Melanie Bennett is the
00:33:44.700 journalist. True North is the publication. The headline is exclusive girl athletes silenced
00:33:51.260 over concerns about male teammates in dorms. I hope you're right that we can be braver and
00:33:56.140 there's no reason to fear. I don't want to disagree with you because I learned so much from you,
00:34:02.060 but it may be that by not naming any of the people involved, they have not felt spurred to counter
00:34:10.540 attack you. And that may be the reason I think of our friend, David Menzies, who goes out and films
00:34:15.500 the trans athletes like Ash Davis and et cetera. And it may be that you, that you've kicked the
00:34:22.220 hornet's nest more gently by, by not naming names. I'm not disrespecting your work at all. I'm just
00:34:29.500 saying we have to be clever about these sorts of things sometimes. Well, listen, I'm a huge fan. I
00:34:34.060 am so glad you're covering this beat. I intend to follow your work and I look forward to having you on
00:34:39.260 again to talk about these important issues. Um, what's the best way for people to follow you?
00:34:44.780 Well, my speaking of activists, I did get attacked by activists on my Twitter, which used to be
00:34:49.340 Finkledusty, which, uh, that's a whole story we'll get into, but so they, they, they managed to ban
00:34:56.540 that account. So now it's real Finkledusty, which you're welcome to go, uh, follow me there to gather
00:35:01.180 my following count again, or, uh, I'm on Substack, Melanie Bennett on Substack where all of my articles
00:35:06.060 get published in the post there. All right, well, we'll check it out. There she is.
00:35:09.100 Melanie Bennett in an undisclosed location, ready to defend against any attack,
00:35:14.860 amphibian or terrestrial. Stay with us more ahead.
00:35:29.900 Hey, welcome back. We put Emma's video online already, and we got some letters. Let me read
00:35:35.340 them to you from in vino veritas. You may as well fight because there is nowhere to run to.
00:35:41.260 Well, that's the thing. I mean, we talk about indigenous homelands and ethnic homelands.
00:35:46.140 What is the homeland for the British people? Uh, uh, an ethnicity, you know, Anglos,
00:35:52.300 the Welsh, the Scots that goes back centuries or even thousands of years.
00:35:56.860 Why should they not have a homeland the same way Italy should be for Italians and France for the
00:36:02.300 French? I support that. And the thing is the UK, they got nowhere else to go.
00:36:07.500 Next letter from Hen Sid who said, Starmer, that's the prime minister over there.
00:36:12.700 Starmer tells us they are doing something about it. And that is true. He's paying the French
00:36:16.860 millions to push the boats out to sea, sending them on their way to the UK.
00:36:21.100 You know, Donald Trump has got the flow of illegal migrants in across the southern border
00:36:26.540 down to practically zero. In fact, I think some months it actually is zero. There's no technical
00:36:33.340 problem, physical problem stopping the United States from, you know, letting in what was let
00:36:41.180 in under Joe Biden's term, 13 million people. There was no technical problem that Joe Biden had.
00:36:45.980 The border police had the tools. They were just told not to use them. The United Kingdom has
00:36:52.460 remained a free country for centuries because of the English general, a natural moat. And the Royal
00:36:58.860 Navy even to this day is a mighty force. The only reason they're allowing these dinghies to cross is
00:37:04.620 because that is a choice made by their government. John Hunter says, Canadians need to be doing the
00:37:11.020 same thing. It's not racist to disagree with people who have different values than Canadians.
00:37:14.940 Their skin tone is irrelevant. That's exactly right. And when I talked about the rape culture,
00:37:19.980 that's not connected to the hue of skin of people from Pakistan. It's just a culture in that country.
00:37:26.860 And I quoted from a 2014 article I wrote about a shocking incident. By the way, in the rest of that
00:37:33.260 story, the bus driver saw the rape in the back of the bus, he pulled over and joined in. That is
00:37:39.500 unthinkable in Canada. Absolutely unthinkable. That is a true rape culture. And how can you bring in
00:37:47.020 hundreds of thousands of men, millions even, from those countries, dump them in the middle of a
00:37:53.900 high trust society where, yeah, you have women jogging in Lululemon. The problem is not the cat
00:37:59.180 calling, I can assure you. It's the rape. It's our show for today. Sorry to talk about such heavy things.
00:38:05.740 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters to you at home, good night.
00:38:11.020 And keep fighting for freedom.