Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Using his parliamentary majority, Mark Carney moves to limit debate on controversial surveillance laws

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. What did the Liberals need their majority in Parliament for so badly that

00:00:06.020 they bribed all those opposition MPs to come over? Well, I'll tell you, and it's not a pretty picture,

00:00:10.920 it's to ram through a bill in the grossest way you can imagine. That, plus we'll talk about a

00:00:17.780 Saskatchewan idea to put away some of that money in a rainy day fund. We'll talk to the Taxpayers

00:00:23.500 Federation. But first, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus. It's the video

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00:00:37.760 money and it shows. Tonight, why did Mark Carney want a majority

00:00:57.780 government so badly? What would he use it for? I'll show you the ugly answer. It's June 16th,

00:01:04.460 and this is the Ezra LeVant Show. Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:12.140 Well, last year, Mark Carney won the election with 43% of the vote, and he got 169 seats out of 343 in the House of Commons.

00:01:31.420 So you need 172 to have a majority. He was just shy of the majority. Canadians chose to give him a minority.

00:01:39.280 Sometimes they do that to keep a politician on a shorter leash.

00:01:43.520 Well, Mark Carney went about undermining the decision of the electorate.

00:01:48.360 He didn't accept the results.

00:01:50.400 Now, did he?

00:01:51.520 By the way, that's what they accused Donald Trump of doing.

00:01:54.520 So what did Mark Carney do?

00:01:57.980 What did he want to do, rather, that was so important that he sought to bribe half a dozen

00:02:04.200 MPs to cross the floor?

00:02:06.220 What did he need them for?

00:02:07.860 What was so critical that he couldn't do what Justin Trudeau did for a decade, namely live with a minority government?

00:02:15.140 Really, Justin Trudeau had an effective majority government because the NDP went along with him on everything.

00:02:21.500 And, of course, the NDP would do that again now.

00:02:24.160 So what did he need the majority for?

00:02:27.560 I mean, remember, Trudeau passed every budget.

00:02:29.340 He didn't lose a budget.

00:02:30.400 He didn't lose a confidence vote. 0.86

00:02:31.640 It would have been the same, but there are some things that no self-respecting MP would accept, even if they are a socialist or an Islamist. 0.98

00:02:42.860 And one of the things is what Mark Carney has just done. 0.76

00:02:45.680 It's a parliamentary procedure move, cutting off debate, denying the opposition the chance to make suggestions or amendments or ask questions.

00:02:56.540 You know, the kind of stuff that we have a parliament for.

00:02:59.560 It's not just question, period.

00:03:00.980 the noisiest 45 minutes of the day. In fact, you could say question period gets very little done.

00:03:06.780 It's the other stuff. The committee meetings where they listen to experts, where they ask

00:03:12.160 questions, where they try to improve the bills, where they look to other jurisdictions for

00:03:16.660 examples of what worked and what didn't. That has all been cut off. And that's only possible

00:03:23.520 because Carney was able to undemocratically bribe MPs to cross the floor, giving him the majority

00:03:30.820 allowing him to short circuit parliament himself. It's fitting, isn't it? Violate democracy by

00:03:38.240 bribing MPs to cross the floor barely a year after they were elected as opposition MPs.

00:03:43.460 And then once they've crossed, use those fraudulent MPs, those stolen seats as the majority to stop

00:03:50.900 even more democracy. And let me read some of that to you, even though it's in a bit of legalese.

00:03:55.900 This is about a very important bill that would give the government the power to compel

00:03:59.700 tech companies to spy on you that would make it a requirement that they store your secrets

00:04:05.960 for a year and make them available to the government on demand.

00:04:10.780 Lots of real questions about privacy, of course, and other civil liberties.

00:04:15.180 I mean, you can see why they're still appealing the Federal Court of Appeal ruling that what

00:04:20.400 they did during the Emergency Act was illegal.

00:04:22.240 Remember that?

00:04:23.300 The Emergencies Act was challenged in court.

00:04:25.740 The Federal Court ruled it was illegal.

00:04:27.540 The government appealed to the Federal Court of Appeal.

00:04:30.320 Three judges in a row upheld the lower court.

00:04:33.200 Four judges in a row now have said invoking the Emergencies Act was illegal.

00:04:39.480 But they want to win that case so badly because they want to do what they did.

00:04:46.000 Again, they loved doing it, seizing and freezing bank accounts without any legal process,

00:04:51.000 that sort of thing that they want to do so much more of.

00:04:54.860 never forget that mark carney even though he was living in europe at the time wrote an op-ed in the

00:04:59.260 globe and mail saying that anyone who supported the truckers was guilty of sedition and the

00:05:03.780 government had to go harder on them not softer anyways take a look at this this is not the

00:05:09.360 substance of the new spy bill c22 but rather how they intend to shove it through parliament not

00:05:15.840 just over the objections of the opposition but without objections from the opposition just

00:05:21.080 cut them out. Just stop them from objecting. Just tape their mouths shut. Just end all the

00:05:27.160 silly talk. I mean, the boss, Mark Carney, he's flying to some foreign country again, or several

00:05:33.360 actually. This week it's been Ireland and France and wherever, whatever takes him away from the

00:05:38.920 humdrum world of parliament. I mean, he rarely goes to question period, much less than Justin

00:05:43.500 Trudeau or Stephen Harper did. I mean, why bother? He's bribed his way to a majority, so there's no

00:05:48.820 need for him to talk to the opposition. So here's what they're doing with their majority now. Here's

00:05:54.120 what they're doing about ramming through the spy bill, C-22, the one that requires tech companies

00:05:59.520 to give up your secrets. Here's why they bribed the former conservative Marilyn Gladue and Matt

00:06:06.060 Jenneru and Chris Dantremont. Here's why they crossed the floor. Now, you know, Michael Ma

00:06:10.780 crossed the floor to be of better service to the Communist Party of China. Literally, his immediate

00:06:16.220 reward by Mark Carney was to fly with the Canadian government to China to meet Xi Jinping.

00:06:20.960 I mean, couldn't have been more brazen. But here's what all of them are doing. Now,

00:06:24.680 I'm going to read the wording to you. This is from the parliamentary website. It's a little

00:06:29.460 bit technical, so I'm going to do my best to make it in plain English. But I am going to read it.

00:06:35.160 Notwithstanding any standing order or usual practice of the House, Bill C-22,

00:06:40.240 an act respecting lawful access, be disposed of as follows. So they're saying,

00:06:44.360 no matter what any standing order is no matter how we normally do things no matter

00:06:48.180 the rules we're going to change that now see that's what they need the majority for

00:06:53.520 then they have a list a it'd be an instruction the standing committee on public safety national

00:07:00.180 security that during its consideration of the bill the committee shall meet within one hour

00:07:05.080 after the adoption of this order for the purpose of completing clause by clause consideration of

00:07:10.220 the bill. Oh, so just one hour. Hey guys, meetings in one hour. Two, if the committee has not

00:07:17.580 completed the clause by clause consideration of the bill within 30 minutes of the beginning of

00:07:23.580 the meeting, all remaining amendments that were submitted to the committee by June 15th shall be

00:07:28.460 deemed moved. The chair shall put the question forthwith and successively without further debate

00:07:33.380 on all remaining clauses and amendments submitted to the committee, as well as each and every

00:07:37.760 question necessary to dispose of the clause by clause consideration i won't read it all but

00:07:42.460 basically you have to meet within an hour you have a grand total of half an hour to talk about it

00:07:48.120 and at the end just boom all the amendments are put there's no debating that amendments there's

00:07:54.580 no back and forth there's no considering them part three the committee shall have first priority for

00:08:00.860 the use of house resources for the meeting so nothing else is more important get this done

00:08:04.680 Four, a member of the committee may report the bill to the House by depositing it with the clerk of the House at any time after the completion of clause-by-clause consideration, and the clerk shall notify the House leaders of the recognized parties and independent members, and the report shall be deemed to have been duly presented to the House.

00:08:20.740 So this is happening in minutes.

00:08:24.540 The bill may be considered at the report stage at any time following the completion of paragraph A4 of this order.

00:08:30.260 And when the order is read, it shall begin to have been concurred in as amended at the report stage.

00:08:35.340 Now, there's three readings of every bill.

00:08:38.480 A reading is a debate and a vote, typically.

00:08:41.600 And they're just jamming that done in a matter of minutes here.

00:08:44.360 I'll just read a little bit more.

00:08:45.440 A motion for third reading may be made immediately after the bill has been concurrent in as amended at the report stage.

00:08:52.320 So they're moving through stage two to stage three immediately.

00:08:56.700 I mean, what, you have a debate?

00:08:57.820 Okay, you have 34 minutes to do that.

00:09:00.620 E, when the House begins debate at the third reading stage of the bill,

00:09:05.060 one member of each recognized party, a member of the NDP and a member of the Green Party,

00:09:09.680 because they're not official parties,

00:09:11.020 may each speak at the said stage for not more than 20 minutes.

00:09:15.440 followed by 10 minutes for comments and questions and comments provided that members may be permitted

00:09:21.340 to split their time with another member so that they have 20 minutes each so so there's the

00:09:26.400 liberals the conservatives the bloc the ndp and the greens a total of 20 minutes each to give a speech

00:09:33.660 and that's it this is the biggest invasion of privacy maybe in canadian history because it

00:09:40.180 requires the government it gives the government power to require any tech company to keep your

00:09:47.440 files to keep your private stuff on hand for a year and to fork it over on command no one else

00:09:55.040 does this other than places like cuba and north korea and now the conservative party has 20 minutes

00:10:00.240 to debate it and the ndp which probably supports it i'd have to check has 20 minutes f at the

00:10:06.440 conclusion of the time provided for the debate at the third reading stage or when no member wishes

00:10:10.740 to speak whichever is earlier all questions necessary to dispose of the third reading stage

00:10:15.680 of the bill shall be put without further debate or amendment provided that if a recorded division

00:10:19.740 is requested it shall not be deferred this is just a fancy way of saying when it's done it's done

00:10:25.040 when the bill is considered at report stage and at the third reading stage after 12 p.m

00:10:30.080 no quorum calls dilatory motions or requests for unanimous consent except from a minister of the

00:10:36.220 crown shall be received by the chair so there's nothing that can stop us uh say the liberals you

00:10:41.320 can't have any other motion you can't call for quorum you can't to make you can't do anything

00:10:47.820 the only people who are allowed to talk really are cabinet ministers translation they will force

00:10:56.660 through their undemocratic bill undemocratically they're able to do this only because of the floor

00:11:05.700 cross there's no debate no listening to witnesses oh sorry 20 minutes of debate pardon me no

00:11:12.540 amendments no chance to even air concerns to the public just just done that's how they do democracy

00:11:19.260 in canada under mark carney and the regime media is fine with it they're all excited about going

00:11:24.380 on fancy trips with him to ireland and france here's professor michael geist he's certainly

00:11:30.000 no conservative he's regarded as one of the leading experts in this kind of law i'm just

00:11:34.840 reading from his website. He says, the government is planning to shut down hearings into Bill C-22,

00:11:39.400 the lawful access bill, with no further debate or discussion on potential amendments to the bill.

00:11:43.900 It has just placed a motion on the order paper, that's what I just read, that would limit today's

00:11:48.360 committee meeting to only 30 minutes for standard clause-by-clause review. That's when you go line

00:11:53.380 by line and make sure it's right. After that, it plans to cancel all further debate or discussion

00:11:58.840 on any other amendments. The committee will instead be required to vote on all remaining

00:12:04.860 amendments with no further debate, discussions, or questions to officials. In fact, the substance

00:12:10.800 of the amendments will remain secret and will not even be disclosed to the public. I don't

00:12:16.000 understand that part, but I'm going to take Professor Guy's word for it. The government's

00:12:20.780 intent is clearly to complete clause-by-clause review tonight to ensure that the bill passes

00:12:25.640 through the house of commons by the end of the week their this is their most urgent priority

00:12:31.260 this is their number one thing you read it yourself they said nothing gets higher priority

00:12:36.380 for house resources nothing can defer this um that's on top i'm just i'm just going to keep uh

00:12:45.980 well actually that professor geish has made his point this is by the way on top of the new plan

00:12:50.480 to force everyone to prove their adults to get online done the name of children of course as if

00:12:55.300 they care more about your children than you do. I see two paths when it comes to technology. We

00:13:00.080 sure are talking about technology a lot, aren't we? There's two paths I see. They're very clear

00:13:05.200 choices. There's the Elon Musk USA plan, which is go to space, go to Mars, go to the stars,

00:13:15.320 build huge rocket ships and make them a hundred times cheaper than ever before by making them

00:13:21.040 reusable and using high tech. And by the way, have computers in space so you don't need these

00:13:27.280 data centers on earth. Have them up there so they're closer to the sun and solar powered.

00:13:31.900 Have them, like, it's all about future tech, almost science fiction coming true. It's what

00:13:36.700 you can dream about and then magnify that even more. Life on Mars. That is the USA Elon Musk

00:13:43.160 approach to technology. And then there's the approach taken by Canada, the United Kingdom,

00:13:51.020 France, and recently by Australia, four middle powers, each with a socialist government,

00:13:56.480 where they've all decided, isn't that a coincidence, every one of those four countries

00:14:01.360 has decided at approximately the same time to bring in this kind of requirement for governments

00:14:08.060 to get access to your technology and the latest thing is you have to prove you're over 16 to get

00:14:15.140 on the internet you have to log in you have to give your id so the government can track you in

00:14:20.820 the name of kids of course hey remember that book 1984 by george orwell as you know rebel news

00:14:26.700 republished it he had a description of the future he said quote if you want a picture of the future

00:14:33.900 imagine a boot stamping on a human face forever. That's pretty dramatic. I don't know if I would

00:14:41.380 quite go that far yet, but one thing's for sure. They've certainly stamped on the power of

00:14:47.400 parliament, haven't they? Stay with us for more. Some of the richest places in the world got rich

00:15:01.800 because of oil and gas. Think of the sovereign wealth funds in places like Saudi Arabia or Qatar

00:15:07.280 or even Norway because of the North Sea oil. So much money is put in a kind of a savings fund

00:15:15.380 and invested and the rate of return is shared with the local people. It's an idea that I learned

00:15:22.040 about when I was growing up in Alberta. A portion of the proceeds were supposed to be kept for a

00:15:27.020 rainy day. Of course, politicians have an idea about rainy days and they love to crack open

00:15:32.540 those piggy banks for any emergency they seem. But one thing I really didn't know, even though

00:15:38.180 I was born and raised in Alberta, is that our neighboring province, Saskatchewan, which also

00:15:42.780 has revenues from natural resources, they've got a heritage savings funds too. I did not know that,

00:15:48.800 but here to educate me and perhaps to educate you as well, is our friend Gage Hobrick,

00:15:53.560 who is the Prairies Director for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:15:58.400 He joins us today from Saskatoon.

00:16:00.200 Gage, tell me a little bit about Saskatchewan's Heritage Fund,

00:16:03.780 because honestly, the one I'm most familiar with is the Alberta Project.

00:16:08.800 How long has Saskatchewan had it?

00:16:11.120 How big is it?

00:16:12.580 And what are they doing with it?

00:16:14.980 Yeah, so I mean, unfortunately, Saskatchewan doesn't currently have a new Heritage Fund.

00:16:19.380 We had one back in the late 70s to the 90s, where, as you mentioned, politicians decided that it was emergency and essentially spent all the money out of the fund.

00:16:28.980 So what we're calling for now is for the government to start a new one to start saving the natural resource revenue for the future.

00:16:35.780 OK, well, I'm glad I asked because I didn't know it.

00:16:38.600 And tell me what it would mean for Saskatchewan to have one.

00:16:44.780 It's good to know that that is a prospective idea.

00:16:48.320 What would it take to start one?

00:16:50.340 Has there been any discussion about this in Saskatchewan?

00:16:53.800 And where does the Premier, Scott Moe, who's a pretty good guy, where does he stand on this?

00:16:59.420 Yeah, so back in 2013, during one of those old oil booms,

00:17:03.540 former Premier Brad Wall commissioned a report on heritage funds for the province of Saskatchewan.

00:17:08.360 And that report recommended that the province should start one to save our resource revenues for the future,

00:17:14.160 just in the same way that Alberta is doing and a little bit more successfully in places like Norway and Alaska.

00:17:20.280 But unfortunately, at that time, the government didn't start a new heritage fund.

00:17:24.380 But based on our report, if the government had started a fund back at that time based on similar rules,

00:17:29.720 it would contain about $4 billion today and generate about $200 million a year in interest income.

00:17:36.960 And that's important because that interest income isn't money that comes from taxpayers.

00:17:40.340 It's just generated off the investments in the fund and that it can be used to fix potholes, build hospitals, provide tax relief.

00:17:47.680 And we've seen from the current premier, Ska Mo, that he said they're open to that sort of idea.

00:17:52.720 But, of course, the government has to pay back some of Saskatchewan's debt first before they can start that heritage fund.

00:17:58.820 He said he's open to it. He understands that Saskatchewan has resource wealth.

00:18:02.380 So we're trying to push him in the right direction to actually establish that heritage fund and not just talk about it.

00:18:06.980 Yeah. I'm thinking back way decades ago when Alberta had this fund. It sometimes gave it at low interest rate loans to have not provinces. It was sort of a kind of foreign policy, so to speak, of Alberta to help out some of the other provinces with cheap money.

00:18:26.420 I don't think that worked. I don't know if Alberta got anything in return for basically subsidizing other provinces on top of equalization.

00:18:38.040 That's one question I have. Isn't the surplus energy wealth already being scooped up by the feds?

00:18:46.360 And would this protect this money from being scooped up? How would this interact with equalization?

00:18:52.380 Have you studied that part?

00:18:55.200 Yeah.

00:18:55.680 So, I mean, it would obviously go into the same formula when they're making those natural resource revenues, but it would really the big benefit for Saskatchewan, especially when you compare it to the federal government, that then they can save those resource revenues for the future, right?

00:19:08.560 So right now, the government, they get a certain amount of money when oil is doing well.

00:19:12.100 Ottawa takes some of that.

00:19:13.140 They do that equalization.

00:19:14.040 But if they save the money that they get to keep, then even in the future, when, let's say, oil isn't doing too hot or uranium potash isn't doing too hot, they've already have that money in the savings.

00:19:24.540 And then they can dip into that rainy day fund and use it to actually spend on those priorities.

00:19:29.220 And then they don't have to rely on something like handouts from Ottawa and make the province more independent and standing on its own footing in that sense instead of riding that resource revenue roller coaster that also Alberta knows only too well.

00:19:41.240 You know, in both Alberta and Saskatchewan, politicians are only human, they're flesh and bone. And if they were to see a big piggy bank, you know, in case of fire, break glass or something, when you reward governments in an emergency situation, when you give them power, when you give them money, when you violate civil liberties, you're going to find out pretty quick that there's, it's always an emergency.

00:20:06.260 because i mean we saw that during covid times we saw that during the trucker convoy emergencies

00:20:12.440 act well no not really um i i think it's pretty tough to build a fence around a pot of money it's

00:20:20.700 almost like scrooge mcduck rolling around in the giant safe in all his money it's tough to stop

00:20:26.560 politicians from doing that i think you might even need some sort of a constitutional thing

00:20:31.320 because if all it takes, I mean, by the way, it's not always going to be a conservative leaning

00:20:36.980 premier like Scott Moe. I mean, one day the Sask party will probably lose nothing's forever

00:20:44.440 and there'll be a socialist in there. It'll be an NDP again, God forbid. I hate to say it,

00:20:48.840 please may it not happen, but it most likely will. And you've got to have such high fences

00:20:55.000 around that money that it's not just a vote of the legislature to grab the cash.

00:20:59.960 Are there any techniques that we see from around the world in Alaska or Norway that could be copied here in Saskatchewan to stop the thievery of this money?

00:21:11.820 Because it's easy to sock money away when resource prices are high.

00:21:15.880 But come an election year, any politician would be tempted.

00:21:20.760 No, I think that's definitely right.

00:21:22.240 I think there's two things there that are really important.

00:21:24.060 The first one is that any fence is still a little bit better than no fence.

00:21:28.040 Because right now there's nothing stopping the government from spending resource revenues as fast as they come in on whatever politician pet project and wasting that money instead of saving it.

00:21:37.640 But thankfully, there are some pretty good protections that do exist out there.

00:21:41.460 As you mentioned, you talk about constitutional.

00:21:43.740 In Alaska, they wrote it into their state constitution that politicians in that state can't pilfer the principle of the fund.

00:21:50.520 They can only spend the interest.

00:21:51.960 The initial savings are always kept safe from prying politician hands.

00:21:56.380 And then in Norway, they have a whole set up independent fund that manages their whole fund.

00:22:02.320 And one key thing about Norway that's also very important is that they don't invest any of their money in Norway.

00:22:08.520 They only do it outside of the country.

00:22:10.360 So then it's just done for investment returns to go back to Norwegian taxpayers, not for politicians to take the money out to make flashy announcements on bad corporate welfare or other subsidy deals.

00:22:20.860 it's a very interesting idea because of course in canada politicians love nothing more than than to

00:22:25.940 say we're investing of course they never use their own money they're used that's what they call

00:22:30.160 spending well gage it sounds like you've done a lot of thinking about this and i hope it does

00:22:35.600 come to pass that there is a heritage fund again i didn't quite know until you explained it to me

00:22:40.900 that the idea was there and then it sort of wasn't there but now it's it might come back i think it's

00:22:45.960 an exciting idea. You've got an uphill battle to keep money out of politicians' hands, but

00:22:50.880 if anyone can do it, the Canadian Taxpayers Federation can. Thanks for spending some time

00:22:55.280 with us today. Thanks for having me. All right, there he is, Gage Habrick,

00:22:59.680 the Prairie Director for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. Stay with us. Your letters to me next.

00:23:04.900 hey everybody welcome back your letters to me uh about tim hortons the first is from the foreman

00:23:19.680 who says this is the first time in my 65 years that i've heard of a news company being threatened

00:23:24.700 with lawsuits and trespass orders that tells you all you need to know about this traitor restaurant

00:23:29.120 shame yeah tim hortons is going cuckoo they and i i think i know why because they're in an impossible

00:23:36.380 position because publicly they've led people to believe that they're going to start hiring

00:23:41.380 canadians again but in reality they're not they're still hiring foreign nationals to work as quote

00:23:47.980 temporary workers plus they're hiring other foreigners like foreign students and something's

00:23:53.380 going to break you can't keep telling the public oh no no we're into canadians now when you're doing

00:23:58.340 the opposite. By the way, our whistleblower site that we set up yesterday at timhortonswatch.com,

00:24:04.720 oh my God, we've probably had 50 tips come in just overnight. Some of them are more in the way

00:24:12.020 of just sort of grumbling, but some of them are very shocking allegations. Expect a lot more

00:24:16.600 journalism from us, and hopefully it'll get Tim Hortons to do the right thing. I don't know,

00:24:20.900 anything's possible. Old Dude says, please realize, Tim's customers, you are paying for

00:24:26.220 these foreign workers twice, buying a product and your taxes. That's so right. I only learned 1.00

00:24:32.140 fairly recently that the foreign workers program is a cost to the government. We're actually

00:24:37.580 subsidizing Tim Hortons so they can hire foreigners instead of young Canadians. I say again, 1.00

00:24:44.300 my very first job was working in a little restaurant and I literally got minimum wage

00:24:50.080 and there wasn't a lot left after the deductions, but it wasn't about the money. It was about my

00:24:54.680 first job I was 14 and what that meant and showing up on time and a clean apron and listening to

00:25:00.960 instructions and getting along with others and doing things you know doing parts of a job that

00:25:05.840 weren't that fun and biting your tongue when a customer was rude it was all those things that

00:25:11.840 are far more important than money but we are denying our young people those first jobs so

00:25:17.460 that a multinational coffee chain can save a few percent on each cup of coffee I don't accept it

00:25:23.660 Well, that's our show for the day.

00:25:25.460 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:25:28.380 to you at home, good night.

00:25:30.340 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:25:31.420 They're very dangerous people, and they're very protective of this agenda.

00:25:49.500 I'm getting done on four soul charges.

00:25:53.580 Ross, when I used to think of Ireland, I thought it was a socially conservative place,

00:25:58.800 strong catholic church a little bit old-fashioned but it seems to be one of the most woke countries 0.56

00:26:05.900 around tell me about your experience with this book is gay day at a library because this blew

00:26:13.820 my mind that this was happening in ireland yeah yeah i wouldn't believe to myself ezra 10 15 years 0.86

00:26:19.400 ago this would have been unthinkable but you're having the library and then teaching kids how to

00:26:23.860 go up and down the shaft of a i won't say here because it's you know probably not appropriate 0.59

00:26:27.400 but c-o-c-k literally how to get on to dating apps a grinder for 18 and over all sexual acts 0.92

00:26:34.200 and what age are the kids in this school yeah well it's in the library for 12 years 0.99

00:26:38.280 pre-teen and i thought like this would be an easy fight it was so pathetic i didn't realize

00:26:43.480 like the trouble i'd get myself in um they're very dangerous people and they're very protective of

00:26:48.680 this agenda so who's they i suppose the state the cork city council the councils all over the country

00:26:54.120 The NGOs are all involved.

00:26:55.860 So you're from Cork, which is in the southwest part of the country.

00:26:58.760 Was it a school or a library?

00:27:00.680 It was the Cork City Library, but they were in libraries all over the country.

00:27:03.700 So is that when you were assaulted?

00:27:05.100 Yes, I was assaulted.

00:27:06.160 I was the only one with photographic evidence.

00:27:08.320 My arms were scratched up and down.

00:27:09.960 I was poked in the eye with an umbrella.

00:27:11.720 I assaulted no one.

00:27:12.640 I'm getting done on four soul charges and a public order.

00:27:15.700 So you go into a library that's having Drag Queen Story Hour, 0.93

00:27:19.940 which is deliberately targeting kids.

00:27:22.100 I didn't think I could get myself into trouble for speaking on something that...

00:27:26.100 So let me ask, did you just speak out or did you get handsy also?

00:27:29.100 Well, there's a video of it, it went absolutely viral.

00:27:34.100 Excuse me. Sorry, excuse me. Sorry.

00:27:37.100 Sorry, excuse me.

00:27:38.100 So we're going to do it. We're going to read the story, please.

00:27:41.100 This is utterly wrong.

00:27:44.100 This is utterly wrong.

00:27:46.100 Excuse me. Sorry, excuse me.

00:27:49.100 Lads, this is wrong. 0.99

00:27:50.520 Drag queen story time for children is all wrong. 1.00

00:27:55.060 Margot, can we not do it? 1.00

00:27:55.880 Yeah.

00:27:56.960 Lads, this is absolutely disgraceful. 1.00

00:27:59.680 We have kids, men dressed as prostitutes, reading filth to children. 0.99

00:28:05.780 What's this all about, lads? 0.99

00:28:07.220 We can't.

00:28:08.620 Hi, how's it going?

00:28:10.020 Lads, we can't stand for this. 1.00

00:28:11.880 Drag queen story time. 0.93

00:28:14.560 People are giving out about it in America.

00:28:16.520 It's not welcome in Ireland.

00:28:17.500 Look at all these people here, lads. They're in protection of grooming.

00:28:28.500 This is a piece, look at this lads, all around.

00:28:32.500 Look what they have. They're protecting grooming going on in Tralee.

00:28:36.500 There's grooming going on in Tralee.

00:28:39.500 No, I won't. This is a public library. We are members of the public.

00:28:43.500 This is an event. This is an event. A children's event.

00:28:46.500 Oh, don't be touching me.

00:28:48.780 Hey, Steve, can you record this?

00:28:50.540 Where are you, Steve?

00:28:52.300 Please.

00:28:52.780 All right.

00:28:53.840 No, we're not going to.

00:28:54.740 We have every right to be here.

00:28:56.180 We've been asked to leave.

00:28:57.260 And we were used to leave.

00:28:58.900 You can call the guardie all you want.

00:29:01.120 What should be called in the guardie is this grooming going on for children.

00:29:04.300 How dare they?

00:29:05.780 This is grooming. 1.00

00:29:07.120 Why do you have men dressed as women? 1.00

00:29:09.100 They're not even dressed as women. 1.00

00:29:10.120 They're dressed as prostitutes. 1.00

00:29:12.080 Right? 0.98

00:29:12.460 You don't need to be insulting to people.

00:29:14.020 Excuse me, what's insulting is what you're doing to these kids here.

00:29:17.500 Come on, push me out, push me out.

00:29:19.740 Push me out, come on, push me out.

00:29:21.620 They're trying to manhandle me.

00:29:24.520 But good luck to that, good luck to that.

00:29:27.260 Here we are, lads.

00:29:31.240 If you put it on my face, I'm going to have to protect myself. 0.99

00:29:34.720 Because this umbrella, you disgust me, you disgust me. 0.96

00:29:38.420 People like Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, Jordan Peterson and Tommy Robinson retweeted. 0.92

00:29:42.740 They did, eh? Holy smokes.

00:29:44.520 Well, that must have made the authorities mad.

00:29:46.980 Well, absolutely.

00:29:47.720 In the victim impact statement, she referred to these people

00:29:51.840 and what such a huge platform they have

00:29:54.220 and how she felt vulnerable going around the street.

00:29:55.920 So when you say victim impact statement,

00:29:58.820 you said that you were the one who was roughed up.

00:30:01.700 So what victim are you talking about?

00:30:03.520 So there was four assault charges on me.

00:30:05.740 So it was one of the four people that I'm being prosecuted for.

00:30:09.800 Okay, so did you hit anyone or did they hit you?

00:30:12.020 Well, I went in the door, and I kind of, like, kind of pushed my way past the door.

00:30:16.700 And then I went in, and then I was surrounded.

00:30:18.420 I was costed with umbrellas.

00:30:19.860 Were they open the umbrellas to hide what they're doing behind it?

00:30:21.940 Yeah, they were different.

00:30:22.420 Antifa does that.

00:30:23.220 Yes, they were very militant.

00:30:24.800 They were very organized.

00:30:25.840 This was all pre-planned.

00:30:27.160 They knew exactly what they were doing.

00:30:28.380 So they knew you were coming, and they were lying in wait.

00:30:30.400 They didn't know I was coming, but they were ready if I did come, because I was known for my...

00:30:34.880 So you're the notorious guy.

00:30:36.340 Yes.

00:30:36.900 And they were on a lookout, and then they just swarmed you, is what you're saying.

00:30:40.900 Basically, they surrounded me.

00:30:42.660 I couldn't, they were in my face.

00:30:45.180 This one in particular had a book in my face. 1.00

00:30:47.660 And when I pushed her hand away, she started screaming.

00:30:50.300 It was all rehearsed.

00:30:51.440 And then this big, tall guy came to manhandle me.

00:30:54.580 And we got into a little bit of a scuffle.

00:30:56.240 Nobody was hurt.

00:30:57.260 Were any of them charged?

00:30:58.440 No, we made statements as well straight after to protect ourselves.

00:31:01.420 But those statements were used against us.

00:31:02.960 I was in with two other people.

00:31:04.580 What is motivating you to keep doing this?

00:31:07.060 Why are you so seized with this?

00:31:09.740 Well, I suppose it's just wrong.

00:31:12.440 It's just flat-out wrong.

00:31:14.000 It's immoral, and we should be able to speak up.

00:31:16.220 But they hate ourselves, right?

00:31:17.600 And if you speak out against us, they hate you even more.

00:31:20.200 I thought that this place was a little bit more religious than Las Vegas, let's say.

00:31:25.520 Sure, sure.

00:31:26.000 I suppose back in the 90s, we would have been regarded hardcore Catholic,

00:31:29.620 but they came out against the priests and called them paedophiles,

00:31:32.900 and people took a turn against the Catholic Church,

00:31:34.840 and they were after stepping away from the Catholic Church.

00:31:36.340 And how's the media?

00:31:37.240 Are they part of the problem here, too?

00:31:38.760 Oh, absolutely.

00:31:39.300 hand in glove with the government, with the judicial system and the Gardaí and the media.

00:31:43.440 They're all on the same page.

00:31:44.380 Do you have any allies?

00:31:46.180 I suppose the general public.

00:31:48.320 I get a lot of support from the general public.

00:31:50.860 You know, we could be walking through town and people would say, keep it up, Ross, well

00:31:53.640 done, things like that, you know.

00:31:54.880 I just feel in general people are against this, especially when it comes to the over

00:31:58.760 sexualization of children.

00:32:00.040 Have they tried to censor you?

00:32:01.560 I mean, you've been charged and they're trying to stop you from going to these things.

00:32:04.680 But like, are you on social media, for example?

00:32:06.300 Well, I was. I did have a pretty good following on Facebook, but there's troll farms flagging my page.

00:32:11.580 So I'm getting restricted and I have to appeal and make sure I haven't breached any community standards.

00:32:17.900 But if I go back on again, they're just going to do the same all over again.

00:32:20.920 Leisha de Bruyne is your lawyer to get that overturned. So she's taken your case.

00:32:24.800 Yeah. And again, thank you so much, Ezra, because I probably would be in prison right now.

00:32:29.180 I was set for trial back in March. We got an adjournment through you and the legal team, Leisha and Podrick.

00:32:34.600 so and we're still fighting that well i've gotten to know alicia and padrick a little bit over the

00:32:38.140 last few months and i'm glad that there are lawyers willing to stand up because lawyers

00:32:42.360 sometimes are creatures of the establishment they want to get in good with the government

00:32:48.000 so they can maybe be appointed judges one day like they're they're certainly part of a high

00:32:52.680 stratus of society so for for lawyers to stand with you and to fight for you you got to give

00:32:59.160 them credit because they may be burning bridges themselves you know yes and i spoke to alicia

00:33:03.700 about that and um yeah she she she knows the situation and you're just really putting yourself

00:33:09.460 on a limb there because as you said they just want to shoot you down the pipe you know they

00:33:12.980 just want you to please well that's another thing that i i've learned i mean i'm trying to understand

00:33:16.980 the irish legal system i i have a law degree from canada but our system is very different

00:33:21.860 but one thing that's the same canada uk ireland is they try to get you to do a plea deal where you

00:33:29.700 say i'm guilty and they'll let you go easy and the reason like that might make sense for like a

00:33:35.140 traffic offense or some really minor thing but when it's a matter of conscience yeah they're

00:33:41.300 just trying to get you to say i was wrong they're trying to get you to renounce or recant your views

00:33:47.460 that's why plea deals in political cases are so deadly because they're trying to demoralize and

00:33:53.860 undermine someone's conscience that's how i feel about it they try to throw a massive fright into

00:33:59.140 they say if you're not going to plead you're going to do more time and then if you do plead

00:34:02.660 you know they're going to run it in the newspaper and it's going to be like you admitted guilt

00:34:06.260 you know and i i i don't feel like i'm guilty i don't feel like a criminal here i've no can i

00:34:10.580 actually have no criminal record i want to keep it that way and this is political policing this

00:34:15.380 is a two-tier system i mean if i was a black man and i went to the airport and i attempted to

00:34:19.700 murder someone by stabbing him they would turn around give me suspended sentence make me out to

00:34:24.660 be the victim and say it was a cry for help this is an actual case was that an actual case yeah

00:34:29.860 yeah i'm not i didn't know what you were referring to no i'm not making it up and the other thing as

00:34:33.540 well is to tear um you might find this interesting ezra i approached the lord mayor a few years ago

00:34:39.300 and he was on the radio and he was down in cork it's down in cork and he was singing from the

00:34:43.700 same hymn sheet as all the rest of them saying that we were calling him pedophiles and called

00:34:47.460 nobody a pedophile we're abusing staff members so i pressed him and he started singing he's called

00:34:53.380 the scene in lord mayor now oh what a beautiful morning oh what a beautiful day from beginning

00:34:57.300 to end he took my phone from my hand he flung it into the into the air it hit an innocent bystander

00:35:03.060 in the head it's all on video this this video went viral a few years ago and he got away scot-free

00:35:07.860 You can go all over again if you want.

00:35:09.860 Continue, Lord Mayor.

00:35:11.860 Lord Mayor, we demand answers.

00:35:13.860 Why are you lying about us?

00:35:27.860 He assaulted me. He took my phone.

00:35:29.860 He chucked it. 0.93

00:35:31.860 He hit someone in the head with the phone.

00:35:33.860 I asked him a simple question why he was making up lies.

00:35:35.860 talk about how they defeated the British Empire like there's a fighting spirit and I'm just saying

00:35:40.300 okay so where's the independent journalists where's the politicians like Nigel Farage and I'm

00:35:46.220 looking and I'm looking and I know it's in your blood yeah but where is it in your political

00:35:51.000 system that's the difference I suppose between England and Ireland I mean when they step out

00:35:55.460 they have people to step in but we don't have that in Ireland well listen I'm rooting for Ireland

00:35:58.980 and you sound like a really good guy you remind me of Derek Reimer he's the Canadian pastor who

00:36:03.840 was roughed up in almost an identical way he went into a drag queen story hour he was assaulted and

00:36:10.780 yet they charged him with assault he he's someone that rebel news has helped actually for years now

00:36:16.160 i think for four years we've helped him out and like you he's a little bit stubborn you know

00:36:21.180 derrick reimer doesn't sound irish to me but maybe there's some irish blood in them somehow

00:36:25.040 i i like the fact that you're trying and i like the fact that you're peaceful i know irish can be

00:36:29.740 a little, you know, tougher than Canadians, but I like your style and we'll do our best to help.

00:36:34.780 And I think part of that is telling the story to the world. Thank you so much, Ezra. I really 1.00

00:36:37.980 appreciate you. And, you know, I'd be in prison if it wasn't for you stepping in. Well, I think

00:36:42.700 you're giving me credit for Alicia and Padraig. They've done great work. Well, listen, we are

00:36:47.280 crowdfunding. I was talking to your lawyer earlier. And for folks who want to chip in, I mean, we've

00:36:51.840 done this in Canada. We've done this in Australia. We've taken some cases in the UK, most notably

00:36:57.020 tommy robinson's over over the course of time there's a lack of free speech fighters in ireland

00:37:02.480 and so when you when you meet one and when he's suffering at the hands of an unjust system

00:37:07.100 i feel compelled to do something and i'd like to invite viewers who want to help because i think

00:37:12.400 there's a freedom deficit here in ireland if you go to irish freespeech.com we'll send that dough

00:37:19.520 to the lawyers who who they've they're the ones who've kept you out of prison thank god

00:37:25.060 And let's see if we can do our best.

00:37:27.260 That's irishfreespeech.com.

Rebel News Podcast - June 16, 2026

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Using his parliamentary majority, Mark Carney moves to limit debate on controversial surveillance laws

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