00:10:15.380So I think we know that that is not correct.
00:10:18.220A lot of what you just said there, Premier Smith, specifically, and we spoke about this, so I don't mind repeating this.
00:10:26.920It is not up to the petition gatherers to fulfill the duty to consult.
00:10:30.540it is up to you as the Alberta government to fulfill the duty to consult. And in this case,
00:10:37.360when there is clearly going to be an impact on well-established existing hunting and fishing
00:10:42.320rights by putting up an international border, if some would have their way, the judge ruled,
00:10:48.560and I would agree with the judge's ruling, that that is going to infringe on rights.
00:10:52.740And so there is a duty to consult. Now, to take a step further, for the Albertan who's been
00:10:58.920frustrated over the lack of progress on pipelines. You've got the premier of BC
00:11:05.640announcing LNG, we're working on Churchill, we're working on northern
00:11:09.540trade corridors. This is a moment to get big things built in Manitoba and I would
00:11:15.180say now is the time to work together. Why don't we hold off on this referendum
00:11:20.540talk for a year or two and see if we get these pipelines under construction
00:11:24.600because at the end of the day we want Canada to succeed we're all very proud
00:11:30.180of this place I myself am very very patriotic and what I think it's
00:11:34.600important for us to say when we hear this sorts of discussion happening here
00:11:38.920in Alberta is for us to say okay thank you First Nations in Alberta for hitting
00:11:43.500the pause button on this now the rest of Canada let's work together and show
00:11:47.880Alberta just how appreciated they are in the rest of this country and this is why
00:11:52.380we have the courts because you can have politicians disagree and that's why you take it through the
00:11:56.880court and you take it through the appeals and you go to the supreme court and ultimately though i
00:12:00.960know respect the difference of opinion that premier canoe has raised i i think we'll we'll
00:12:06.300wait to see how our court of appeals process goes and see what the courts have to say in the end
00:12:10.820that's what i mean if you're celebrating the fact that a trudeau appointed judge has invented a new
00:12:18.860right that you can't even petition your government if you're a white man until indigenous people have
00:12:24.800consulted and you can throw out the will of 700,000 people who have signed petitions. That's0.88
00:12:30.260how many it is. It's not just the 300,000 for the independence petition. There's 400,000 for
00:12:36.420another petition. If you're smirking and rubbing it in and doing a kind of triumphalism because
00:12:44.060as some newly concocted made-up right was just discovered, that you can't do anything without
00:12:50.100indigenous participation. Do you see how corrosive that can be to the friendly reconciliation,
00:12:56.480moving together as equals goal? If you can stop a referendum in the name of democracy,
00:13:04.300at a certain point in time, I think that you will start to take on water the same way that0.92
00:13:11.040transgenderism has done for the gay rights movement. And I like the fact that Wab Kanu is0.80
00:13:15.800premier. I hate the fact that he's an NDP socialist. I hate the fact that he sometimes
00:13:20.200loses his grown-up-ness and becomes childish. But I think he has the opportunity to be a great
00:13:26.780healer of race relations in this country, like Obama had the opportunity. Obama squandered it.
00:13:33.360Instead, he leaned into the Black Lives Matter racial theories of Marxism applied to race. I0.75
00:13:40.760think under barack obama race relations reached an all-time low even though his own election was
00:13:47.060proof that america had become post-racial i'm worried that wab canoe could do the same thing
00:13:52.180if he continues to endorse indigenous vetoes over democratic wishes i think he's going to
00:13:58.620turn a lot of friends into enemies like transgenderism does and you know those are
00:14:03.040some of my thoughts today and i we've got a great interview with franco teresano the tax0.98
00:14:07.600base federation coming up but let me show you an outtake from the live stream i participated in
00:14:13.620today where we talked about wab canoe daniel smith and other things stockwell day was our special
00:14:18.900guest and of course sheila gunreed and lise morrow here take a look at this recording from earlier
00:14:23.180today what do you think first of all of referendums the last big referendum canada had if i'm not
00:14:30.200forgetting anything was the charlatan accord which was oh i mean that was if i'm not mistaken 1992
00:14:37.080So, you know, a whole generation ago, the entire establishment was for, yes, this was a constitutional reform. All the big parties supported it, all the media. This was in the pre-internet era. So I remember big full-page ads were taken out in newspaper by every fancy person saying, I support this, therefore you should because I say so. But it failed 60-40, which I thought was wonderful. What do you think of referendums in general, Stock?
00:15:05.240well there should be a place for them it's uh things can be accomplished through a referendum
00:15:11.080that maybe can't be accomplished in other ways one of the main things it does it's it's it's like a
00:15:16.200pressure valve and it allows people to at least ask a question anytime you say to i'm talking
00:15:23.120with you're talking about raising your kids and you say you can't ask that question or if you get
00:15:27.660to university and the prop says you can't ask that question which actually happens quite a bit today
00:15:32.340anytime you tell somebody who's really burning up to ask a question to shut up and you can't ask the
00:15:39.680question you're just going to create huge problems there has to be a way for questions to be put
00:15:45.360referenda are a valid way of doing that structured along certain guidelines and they should be
00:15:50.620permitted you know i think sometimes politicians throw prickly questions to the courts precisely
00:15:57.400so they can avoid having to make a decision now the courts always tilt one way so it's something
00:16:03.660liberals love to do but in a way a referendum is the same get off the hook for a politician they
00:16:10.060could say i'm gonna this is a tough one this is a big momentous thing i'm not going to arrogate
00:16:14.800unto myself the decision i'm going to let ordinary people do it and uh i i think the reason why so
00:16:21.980many in the elite commentariat in canada like i just think of andrew coin and shut up he explained
00:16:28.640like that that's what you're talking about stock just telling people to shut up and and calling
00:16:32.880names it's it's not going to persuade people i think if anything it's a safety valve for prickly
00:16:38.680issues i mean remember it's not just uh independence that's on the ballot danielle smith is putting
00:16:43.840immigration questions on the ballot and that's something that every single pollster for 10 years
00:16:50.560or more has said people want lower numbers but no politician in office has seemed to done it
00:16:56.320what a great way to air out that question so politicians don't have to be the bad guy
00:17:01.660i i don't know are there any other does anyone know are there other provinces that have
00:17:07.100referendum or citizen initiative laws on the books i think bc might but i could be wrong on
00:17:13.420that do you guys know well i know yeah go ahead sir go ahead no i was just gonna say i know for
00:17:18.800sure saskatchewan does however unlike alberta theirs is non-binding so and the bar to get your
00:17:25.340referendum question on the ballot is very high almost insurmountable the last one they had
00:17:30.480lisa correct me if i'm wrong i think it was on debt yes yes on debt and debt spending and of
00:17:40.280course naturally uh that did pass but then they continued debt spending because it's non-binding
00:17:46.120So if the people of Saskatchewan want a voice in their future, our friend Scott Moe in Saskatchewan should consider making a referendum non-binding and also lowering the bar so that putting a ballot question to the people is not so onerous the way it is there now.
00:18:39.500and that's that's actually done on the premise that people will not always make the right thing
00:18:46.860people will not always do the right thing you cannot trust one level of government that is a
00:18:51.980very good healthy perspective to have and that's why there's a balance of powers but it gets
00:18:57.220imbalanced when you have the judiciary that completely abandons the original intent of the
00:19:03.160balance of powers is when all at the end of the line the question whatever it might be would go to
00:19:08.880judges who would make a decision based on what was the original intent now i realize a lot of
00:19:15.900people and uh ezra quite rightly mentioned uh these pontificators who roll their eyes you know
00:19:21.400when we the uh the mere masses discuss these things like original intent but that was the
00:19:27.440purpose of it a judge or judges would then decide well based on the whether they like it or not
00:19:32.960Based on the original intent, this law can stand or it can't.
00:19:37.140And when you have judges define that as the recent judicial decision in Alberta or as the one just recently in Ontario, which says it's actually a constitutional right for you to have an encampment in a downtown city and not be moved.
00:19:52.820When we get insane rulings that have nothing to do with original intent, you get a lot of unrest and it brings even more into light the need for referenda.
00:20:01.880You know, you're so right. I mean, this one lone judge in Alberta, and it is relevant that that judge was appointed by Justin Trudeau. And it is relevant that that judge is originally from New Brunswick. I've got nothing against New Brunswick. And I think there's a place for liberals in society, believe it or not.
00:20:18.100But just simply to have 700,000 petition signers – remember 300,000 who signed the independence petition led by Mitch Sylvester and 400,000 who signed a pro-Albert – I mean there's pro-Canada one.
00:20:30.680So 700,000 people want a referendum, at least that many, more who didn't sign it for sure.
00:20:38.120And one judge says, no, I've invented, I've discovered a new indigenous veto on – I mean these people hadn't even done anything other than say, hey, I'd like a discussion.
00:20:47.760No, shut up, she explained. You're not allowed. And and by the way, this goes, this feeds the underlying grievance of Alberta, which suggests that there's a two tier system in Canada because Quebec has had two independence referendums and none of this was was thrown at them.0.96
00:21:05.540To his credit, the Parti Quebecois, that's the Provincial Separatist Party in Quebec, had a comment about this.
00:21:13.660And I think it's a good time to play that clip, Olivia.
00:21:16.760And by the way, our Alexa Lavoie had a one-hour sit-down with the Parti Quebecois leader.
00:21:22.340So I appreciate him giving us the time of talking to us.
00:21:25.780I think it was an excellent interview.
00:21:26.900Without further ado, here's a clip of Mr. Plamont-Long.
00:21:29.820I don't think we heard your reaction since Daniel Smith announced that she'll start the process for a future and potential referendum.
00:21:40.620How do you react about this? What's happening in Alberta?
00:21:44.860I'm surprised at what Carney said. Mark Carney seemed to be willing to give many things to Alberta in exchange for some peace.
00:21:56.300And I think the premier of Alberta, Daniel Smith, is just doing her job as a premier, saying that, of course, they are free to consult their population.
00:22:08.320And, of course, they're a parliament free of making any laws that they deem fit for their objectives.
00:22:17.520So for Mark Carney to all of a sudden start saying that it's a bluff, it's dangerous, I think it's really out of line.
00:22:25.960And I'm not sure where that is heading, but let me make clear that in the case of Quebec, our laws are clear.
00:22:34.540The history of the two referendums are very clear.
00:22:38.860We are free to consult our population at any time.
00:22:42.460And there's no blackmail or any comment that will change that principle.
00:22:47.020And I'm pretty sure that it's the same reasoning in Alberta right now.
00:22:50.940I mean, again, he's just saying, I can talk to my people.
00:22:53.840they can petition me and no judge is going to stop it and i think that's that would be called
00:22:58.160normal democracy he was referring to a few comments by mark carney and let me just play
00:23:03.360a couple more vids and then we'll go back to our super duper panel olivia can you play the first
00:23:07.560one there where carney says the referendum about a referendum is not binding and i am frustrated
00:23:15.600that danielle smith watered it down to two referendums in a row i don't think that makes
00:23:19.540any sense i don't i don't think he was justified but she did it here's mark carney saying the
00:23:24.420whole thing's a joke take a listen i gave i gave a very i gave a sorry just to be clear um the
00:23:33.640because it is a question about a question i mean it's uh it it it doesn't it's not a by it's
00:23:39.440explicit in the question that it's not a binding referendum this is what i expected but i uh you
00:23:44.520know as I said in French that as Prime Minister and issues particularly issues
00:23:49.680of a constitutional nature I like to make sure I have the official advice
00:23:54.300before so which is why yesterday I was careful in terms of my no it is not it
00:23:59.640is not for under a clarity act it is absolutely not and I would just
00:24:03.720recommend that you read the clarity acted very clear not surprisingly clarity
00:24:07.200act is very clear and a determination and there's a series of conditions which
00:24:11.340I responded in the house for the record. So a big win from Mark Carney. I don't know what
00:24:17.340Danielle Smith got in return. And just one more. Mark Carney had a hot mic incident where it sounds
00:24:24.380like he was calling Danielle Smith stupid, or at least her ideas stupid. And I mean, listen,1.00
00:24:30.660we know he sneers at the West. We know he sneers at democracy. I mean, it's quite something to take
00:24:35.160lectures on democracy from someone who did not get a majority government. Voters deemed he should
00:24:40.840only have a minority government, but he undermined that election by bribing and giving gifts and
00:24:46.640promises to MPs to make them cross the floor. So I don't really think that we should take lessons
00:24:52.600from Carney on democracy, but here he is referring to a moment captured by, I think it was CTV,0.99
00:24:59.680where he was saying, Danielle Smith is stupid for not letting the judge kill this thing. Take a0.99
00:25:04.500listen. Yeah, Prime Minister, I'm hoping you can clarify some remarks that you made after the
00:25:09.320scrum on Monday. When you were leaving the press conference, you spoke with Minister Robertson,
00:25:14.360and I want to read what you set out. What are you doing? This is stupid. You've got an offer
00:25:18.740and take it. That to me sounds like you're talking about Daniel Smith and the Alberta
00:25:22.680referendum question. I'm just talking to Minister Robertson. Can you clarify what you were discussing
00:25:27.780in that point in time, because the scrum was about what Smith had done.
00:30:29.620So why is it that when Canadian officials fly on those private jets that the Canadian government makes affordable to them, make not affordable, makes available to them, why do they spend tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of dollars on meals that are so weird and so exotic that no airline, not even the fanciest first airline, first class airline would ever do?
00:30:59.160Why are they not satisfiable with merely business class or first class food?
00:31:05.840Even some of the most fancy airlines in the world, like Emirates Airlines.
00:31:09.980If the ticket you're buying costs you $10,000, obviously the super fancy meal you get is less than $10,000.
00:31:20.000So how is it that Mark Carney recently spent nearly $200,000 on food and wine?
00:31:29.920Here to take us through these statistics is our friend Franco Terrizano, the boss of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
00:31:36.540You know, Franco, this is a subject close to my heart because I fly a lot.
00:31:58.060Well, the price gets higher for taxpayers when the meals that you're getting on the airline are slow simmered beef with red wine reduction sauce or sauteed beef with, quote, world famous creamy sauce or Scottish salmon filet beef tenderloin with Bordelais sauce.
00:32:15.900You know, Ezra, some of these food choices are so exotic.
00:32:19.960I'm not even sure I'm pronouncing them right.
00:32:22.020And also, don't forget about dessert, right?
00:32:24.020There was some luxury Normandy buttercups.
00:32:27.240You had blueberry cheesecake, creme brulee, chocolate mousse, and so much more.