Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Welcome to Davos — home to the condescending, fancy pant oligarchs who rule us from the shadows

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Today's report is from the Swiss Alps, but I'm not here on a winter vacation.

00:00:06.360 I am here because the World Economic Forum is meeting, and we are doing our best to interview

00:00:11.480 the VVIPs on the street. You absolutely have to get the video version of this podcast. I mean,

00:00:18.200 sure, you'll enjoy listening to it, but you got to see it. You got to see how they run.

00:00:22.880 When we ask some questions, go to rebelnewsplus.com and click subscribe. All right, here's today's

00:00:28.180 podcast. Tonight, I'm in the belly of the beast of the World Economic Forum. It's January 16th,

00:00:49.560 and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:51.160 You're fighting for freedom. Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:00:58.180 Oh, hi there. It's pretty frosty out. It's almost sunset. I'm in a ski town called Davos, 0.75

00:01:11.880 but I didn't come here to sled. I came here to slay, along with my fellow citizen journalists.

00:01:17.900 We are here hunting, not for VVIPs, but for VVIPs, the masters of the universe, if they do say so

00:01:24.900 themselves, the condescending fancy pants, the oligarchs who rule over us without having to go 1.00

00:01:31.340 through the bother of winning our support in elections. That's the thing about Davos and the

00:01:36.500 World Economic Forum. There are some extremely powerful people here. I will say there are some

00:01:41.580 important people here. By that, I mean they control much of our lives. For example, BlackRock,

00:01:47.340 which has more than $10 trillion of assets under management, they have a shape, they have an effect

00:01:54.660 on your life. There are many politicians here, retired and active. There are diplomats, lobbyists,

00:02:01.220 everyone here with a scheme or a scam. There's money in the streets, but mainly there's power.

00:02:07.780 And normally power is checked. We believe in checks and balances. We believe in an official opposition.

00:02:13.780 We believe in a media that can scrutinize and criticize. We believe in access to information.

00:02:19.740 We believe in, for example, registries of foreign lobbyists. But none of those things here are in

00:02:26.800 the World Economic Forum. In fact, that's their selling point. The World Economic Forum is an alternative

00:02:32.600 crypto government where powerful people come knowing that pay to play is okay. That what would be called

00:02:40.660 a bribe back in Canada or the UK or the United States is called, I don't know, a sponsorship fee

00:02:47.340 here. That applies to the journalists too, by the way. I say that there are very few citizen journalists

00:02:53.480 like ourselves here, and it's true. There's six of us from Rebel News. There's three of our friends

00:02:58.520 from True North. And there's a handful of others, maybe, maybe 15 altogether. But there are literally

00:03:06.220 hundreds of other journalists here, but they are not here in their capacity as journalists.

00:03:11.160 They're here as insiders. They're here as people who paid a sponsorship fee to Klaus Schwab, the owner

00:03:17.760 and founder of the World Economic Forum. And so they get to sit on the stage. They get one of these

00:03:24.780 kiosks, these pavilions along the promenade in the city. So if you paid hundreds of thousands of dollars

00:03:31.780 to have a seat at the table, as a journalist, I can guarantee that you're not going to be asking

00:03:37.320 critical questions. You're going to be in stenography mode. In fact, there's a little bit of

00:03:42.720 tension between the citizen journalists of Rebel News and the official regime journalists. A few

00:03:49.200 reasons for that. We ask prickly questions of their guests that they would never. And I think there's a

00:03:55.120 tiny bit of jealousy that we're allowed to be free and they're not. Plus, it's fun to be in the

00:04:01.220 streets. But it's something I've said about Canada, too. People say, why was David Menzies

00:04:05.360 scrumming Chrystia Freeland, the deputy prime minister, on the street? Why did he have to do

00:04:09.640 that? Well, the answer is because Chrystia Freeland and the liberal government has banned us from

00:04:13.860 attending press conferences. I believe that's illegal, by the way. Same thing here. I wrote to the World

00:04:19.160 Economic Forum months ago. I said, look, we're coming and we're going to do our stories. And, you know,

00:04:24.120 obviously we're critics. But why don't you at least talk to us, allow us to come into some of the

00:04:29.940 meetings. Give us more information. Be part of our stories. It couldn't hurt. Well, they had

00:04:35.720 nothing. They had none of it. And we are on the streets. But I put it to you, we've done some better

00:04:40.560 journalism on the streets than the shills and the stenographers who paid hundreds of thousands of

00:04:46.260 dollars to be here. It's very interesting. And for the rest of the show, I want to give you a few

00:04:51.120 snippets of what the last couple of days has been like. You never know who you're going to meet.

00:04:57.060 And by the way, not everyone who you meet is hostile. Not everyone who you meet is part of the

00:05:03.940 inner sanctum. We met a gentleman earlier who we saw last year who is fighting against child labor.

00:05:11.520 And he points out that Canadian companies use child labor. I like a guy like that. But like us,

00:05:17.840 he's a rebel. He's on the outside. Here's just a minute of our friend Fernando.

00:05:21.640 Hi, how are you? See you again. Thank you. Yeah, nice to see you. I remember we had a great chat

00:05:26.680 last year. Did you see the videos we made? You made a lot of noise. Very good. But, you know,

00:05:32.560 53 years after the WEF was founded, they have 75 million children working in their supply chains.

00:05:39.320 This is absolutely unacceptable. And we have high officials from the government of Canada,

00:05:45.280 Canada, like the deputy prime minister, Christian Finland, who's a member of the board of the World 0.93

00:05:51.600 Economic Forum. And this is something important. You know, this is Fernando Morales de la Cruz,

00:05:57.240 who we met exactly a year ago when we were doing the same walk. And you introduced yourself to us.

00:06:02.080 And you had riveting and terrifying and heartbreaking stories about child trafficking. And I thought,

00:06:07.540 this is the right place to be because a lot of the people here are complicit.

00:06:10.860 Well, they are profiting from the exploitation of 75 million children in their supply chains.

00:06:15.900 And I'm actually being conservative in the figure. The problem is that many of these companies have

00:06:21.060 business models that have actually increased misery, hunger, malnutrition, and child labor.

00:06:25.420 And some of these companies are even Canadian. And of course, we have the Ontario Teachers Pension

00:06:30.080 Plan, which is a shareholder in Barry Calibout, the largest cocoa processing company. And they are

00:06:36.220 profiting also from child labor by investing in such a company. And I'm sure the Ontario Teachers,

00:06:40.840 are honest people, but the Ontario Teachers Pension Plan should not be doing this kind of

00:06:46.060 investments. Yeah. Well, I'm absolutely delighted to see you here again. And you're proof that not

00:06:52.180 every... There are people here who come to speak truth to power. And I put you in that category.

00:06:56.880 Yeah, I'm outside of the web. Yeah, us too.

00:06:59.240 So it was nice to see him here. But like I say, most people here are here to suck up to power, 0.88

00:07:05.200 not speak truth to power. But let me show you a few snippets from various interviews that we've done

00:07:12.380 today and other videos. But I don't want to play them all in full because we have done so much work,

00:07:19.880 it simply wouldn't be enough time. So I'll show you excerpts of some videos, but I want you to see it

00:07:24.940 in full. Because this is actually our largest journalistic project of the year. As you know,

00:07:30.900 sometimes we go on little missions, little journeys. I think, for example,

00:07:35.360 of when I went for two days to cover the riots in Marseille, France. Okay, that was interesting.

00:07:41.640 It was a couple of days. And actually, we were able to do it quite economically. But this visit to

00:07:47.200 Davos, we're here for a full week. And there's half a dozen of us. And we had to spend a lot of money

00:07:53.800 because the World Economic Forum buys up every hotel room and Airbnb within a large radius of

00:08:00.480 Davos. We're not saying in Davos, we got to get on a train and go to the next town over or a car we

00:08:07.000 borrowed. We rented a car because we wanted to go to the private jet airport to watch the fancy pants

00:08:11.520 come in. So being here is difficult. And I think it's difficult on purpose. I mean, being high here in

00:08:17.980 the mountains, you know, Klaus Schwab, the founder of the World Economic Forum, he comes across as a Bond

00:08:24.520 supervillain. He's got the German accent, which just, you know, just perfects the Bond supervillain 1.00

00:08:30.540 look. But it is a historical fact that his father actually was a Nazi industrialist. His father moved to

00:08:40.300 Germany right before the war to run a factory for Hitler. I don't know, maybe that's why Christia 0.97

00:08:47.780 Freeland is on the board of the World Economic Forum. She has that in common with Klaus Schwab,

00:08:54.140 her own grandfather, of course, being a Nazi as well. So it's difficult to get here, which I think

00:08:59.960 lets the folks who are here let their hair down. The oligarchs, the billionaires, the masters of the

00:09:05.880 universe, they feel like they're amongst friends. They feel like they're far away from Washington,

00:09:10.460 D.C. or Ottawa or London, where there's snooping media. The only media allowed in are on the payroll,

00:09:17.480 essentially. So when you approach them on the street, maybe they're more chatty than they normally

00:09:23.160 were, or certainly they just don't have a large entourage of bodyguards. So let me show you a few

00:09:28.800 things. I want to start with a clip from my visit to the local private jet airport, where I chatted

00:09:34.640 with one worker there who says 150 flights per day, private jets coming in, so many that they don't

00:09:44.420 have room to park them. So the jets come in, disgorge their VVIPs, and then the jets take off and go fly 0.72

00:09:52.020 elsewhere to wait. And then the jets come back to pick up their VVIPs and fly out. That sounds

00:09:59.020 astonishing, but it makes sense because there's not room for 150 jets. Here's a little bit of what

00:10:04.960 we saw at the airport. There's planes coming and going literally every 10 minutes. I just heard

00:10:10.740 the sound of a jet behind me. It's fascinating. One of the things about planes that I didn't know

00:10:16.100 is that you can look up their number on the tail, search out the details. For example,

00:10:22.240 what kind of aircraft it is and who owns it. And there's even an app where you can track jets as

00:10:31.640 they come and go. This is a fairly small airstrip. It's a private airstrip. I think it's used for

00:10:38.360 commercial business. There's some industry in the area and for people flying in to go skiing in the

00:10:43.380 Alps. But this one week of the World Economic Forum is the busiest week by far for this little airstrip.

00:10:50.320 And you see massive jets that you wouldn't normally see. It's so busy. It's such an important part of

00:10:56.660 their business that the website of the airport has its own special menu bar just for the World

00:11:03.580 Economic Forum. You could read it yourself. They make hundreds of thousands of dollars from the fees

00:11:09.100 of these planes landing and getting fueled and staying in hangars. But like I say, this is a fairly

00:11:16.620 small airfield. There's not enough room. So the jets sometimes fly elsewhere to park elsewhere.

00:11:24.080 We followed one plane that took off from London, landed here. It was an enormous plane,

00:11:31.960 a Bombardier 6500. I googled it. Those things retail for about $50 million US. And they cost tens of

00:11:41.620 thousands of dollars per hour to fly with that high carbon jet fuel. We watched that aircraft land

00:11:49.420 and I was ready for a huge entourage to get off the plane. There were only three people on the plane.

00:11:55.880 Sorry, it's a little noisy. Another aircraft is pulling up right now. I love the fact that the name

00:12:01.040 of this private jet airport is the people's airport. It reminds me of what we saw in Davos the other day

00:12:08.740 about the equality lounge. There's something wonderful about JP Morgan and McKinsey and the

00:12:15.120 world's billionaires having an equality lounge. And there's something very Orwellian about this 0.75

00:12:20.560 people's airport. Another private jet landing there. Another one getting ready to take off there.

00:12:25.220 These are the people telling you to reduce your carbon. I thought that was very interesting.

00:12:30.560 And it certainly puts a lie to the climate agenda of the World Economic Forum. But you got to remember,

00:12:35.140 they do believe in reducing emissions. They actually do. They just believe in reducing

00:12:40.780 your emissions, not theirs. They believe that you will eat the bugs, not them. I've spent some time

00:12:48.920 in Davos in the neighboring town of Klossers. I haven't found any place that's serving bugs.

00:12:53.280 They want you to eat bugs, but they'll have the finest meals available. Let me show you another

00:12:59.640 video. I actually, there's a real Ukraine presence here, not surprisingly. There was last year as well.

00:13:08.260 I want to show you two things about Ukraine. The first is I visited the Ukrainian pavilion,

00:13:16.560 which had a very different tone to it this year than last year. Last year, you might recall,

00:13:20.780 they were talking about prosecuting Vladimir Putin for war crimes, seizing Russian assets and using

00:13:27.180 it in reparations. Here's just a flashback to my visit a year ago. I want to take you through this

00:13:33.400 facility. I didn't go to every nook and cranny of it, but the main floor is a kind of museum

00:13:40.640 that frankly reminded me a little bit of the Holocaust Museum in that it was documenting

00:13:46.140 death and destruction and injury to civilians. And they use the language of war crimes and they

00:13:55.420 certainly use dramatic footage, both video footage and photography. War crimes are happening across

00:14:03.020 the territory, across the occupied territories in Ukraine. And this is one part of the exhibition,

00:14:10.240 which is upstairs, where we again have to focus on the war crimes that have not stopped.

00:14:15.920 Is it one of the goals of this installation to get war crimes prosecutions of Russia?

00:14:23.120 It's absolutely essential that justice will be brought against those who committed the atrocities. So yes,

00:14:30.720 one wants to have justice. And it's not the goal of the installation. The goal of the installation is

00:14:36.160 to create awareness, to create emotions. Um, but I hope part of the discussions that we're holding, uh,

00:14:44.240 around this installation is really focused on how to get, uh, Russian war criminals to justice.

00:14:50.880 This year was very different. There was an emphasis on the atrocities and the damage done to civilians.

00:14:56.640 It was heartbreaking to visit them. And they had a whole art exhibit about what they call stolen

00:15:02.480 children. Here's just a quick snippet of that. When I talked to the curator of the exhibit.

00:15:07.200 You're the curator for this very powerful exhibition. I'd like to ask you some questions

00:15:12.080 because I don't understand the salary behind it. Can you please tell them who are these children?

00:15:18.000 How were they selected for deportations and how did that happen?

00:15:22.720 So all of the children you see here are Ukrainian children who have been deported by Russians,

00:15:28.240 who have been brought to Hems, um, and who have been returned to Ukraine because their parents or

00:15:37.040 their legal guardians at personal risk went into Russia to bring them back with documents arguing

00:15:44.160 to the people who are in the cab, that this is their child, that the child should be given back to

00:15:49.040 them. And like this, they were brought back to Ukraine. So how would these children physically

00:15:54.560 taken if they had the parents? How were they swept up? Well, the stories of each child are different.

00:16:01.520 Many of the children were brought to, you know, holiday camps, as they called it, and were never returned.

00:16:10.480 Some critics say that these people are ethnically Russian or that they affiliate with Russia as

00:16:17.840 opposed to Ukraine. Is that incorrect? Come here. What would you say to, uh, to those who, who,

00:16:25.760 well, help me understand that. Help me, help me, um, swear in the circle. How would, just try to

00:16:32.240 understand who they are and how it happened. I mean, I'm at a loss. Well, Russians have a genocide and 0.91

00:16:39.760 intent in Ukraine. One of the ways to destroy Ukraine is to steal the children. It's according to the 1.00

00:16:47.120 Ginny Buck invention. One of the acts of genocide. That is exactly what they have been doing. We have

00:16:53.440 reported facts of thousands of children. We don't know about many mothers because there's not always

00:16:59.520 acts. And there's testimonies. There's witness statements. There's children themselves who tell

00:17:04.240 the stories. How they do it, that's a different question. The fact that they take them away from their

00:17:09.840 parents. They've taken away from their homes and bring them to a right to re-educate. I think the most

00:17:14.880 telling thing was the name of the panel discussion. We didn't have time to stick around to watch it.

00:17:20.480 It was something that would have been unthinkable for the pavilion a year ago.

00:17:24.240 What happens if Ukraine loses the war? And I think that the global opinion has shifted.

00:17:32.080 Some of the enthusiastic support for the world economic, from the World Economic Forum, uh, elites

00:17:38.080 and other countries for the Ukraine war has dissipated for whatever reason, economic reason or public

00:17:43.600 support. So I think that the mood is changing. And, um, I don't know. I just, it's painful to

00:17:50.640 think of how many people died, both civilian and military and what's happened to their country.

00:17:54.960 So there was a lot of Ukraine stuff, but of course there are people here from every background.

00:17:58.880 It's hard to spot them in the wild because as you can see behind me, people walk by

00:18:03.840 and they're maybe wearing a name tag, but unless someone is very visible and identifiable,

00:18:09.120 you're not going to be, I mean, John Kerry, someone that everyone would know what he looks like. I

00:18:13.440 think I would recognize certain, uh, executives like last year. I recognize, I did identify

00:18:20.800 Albert Bourla. One of our teammates spotted him, but I knew what he looked like is what I mean.

00:18:24.960 But for example, the head of state street, which is like black rock, a super huge, um, asset management

00:18:31.840 company. I didn't know who he was. Uh, other than the fact that one of our teams spotted his name tag,

00:18:37.120 here's me attempting to talk to the CEO of state street about what's called ESG environmental,

00:18:44.560 social and governance. That's basically a cultural Marxism forced into companies through these big

00:18:51.040 investment funds. It wasn't a very successful interview, but I, but I want to show it to you

00:18:55.920 nonetheless. Take a look. Can I ask you a little bit about a state street and ESG? Are you pulling

00:19:01.760 back from it the same way black rock is? No. And why don't we just set this up formally, but no,

00:19:08.640 we're not pulling back from it. Well, what about, uh, critics like Elon Musk who say it's a kind of

00:19:13.200 reverse racism? Elon's got his opinion. What about shareholders who say you're putting other goals

00:19:21.440 ahead of your fiduciary duties? You're putting cultural Marxism or affirmative action. Those may be

00:19:27.200 political values, but they're not designed to get a maximum rate of return. If there's, uh, firms that

00:19:33.280 are doing that, I don't know that that's not how we do it. We have one focus, which is shareholder value

00:19:37.600 period. Well then how you just told me though, you're sticking with ESG.

00:19:43.280 We stick with value. It's about value, not values. Can I ask you about state governments that are pulling

00:19:50.640 their funds out of ESG firms like the state of Florida, for example, or they do. Are you worried that the

00:19:55.840 state street will be hit by divestment from companies that are rejecting ESG?

00:20:00.960 So we only focus on creating value for our shareholders. And if you look at our track record,

00:20:06.640 that's all that we've ever done. And what we focus on is what's, what are long-term investors need to

00:20:12.320 be thinking about? What are the kinds of risks they need to be thinking about? And they need to make

00:20:16.240 the decision. That's what we've always done. What were your goals? What are your goals here? Okay.

00:20:25.840 Yeah, I see you're walking. I proposed to walk with you. I'd like to ask what your goals are here

00:20:34.720 today. What were your goals here at the World Economic Forum? That's not a tough question. I'm

00:20:38.800 just curious what your goals are. Well, why won't you answer that? That's not a gotcha. What are your

00:20:46.000 goals here at the World Economic Forum? Okay. I mean, is there something you'd like to say? I mean,

00:20:54.720 that's not a trick or a trap. It's just curious what your goals are at the World Economic Forum.

00:21:01.520 Some people criticize it for being not transparent. For example, there's lobbying going on that's not

00:21:06.960 registered. There's foreign agents. Is that why you're here?

00:21:19.840 Did you have any meetings with politicians that you're not going to register? Like, have you had

00:21:25.040 any meetings with politicians, for example, from Ukraine about rebuilding Ukraine after the war?

00:21:38.480 Do you think it's a good look for State Street not to ask and not to answer even basic questions?

00:21:52.080 Are you worried about misinformation and disinformation? That's been a big

00:21:58.800 focus of the World Economic Forum this year. Do you agree with that?

00:22:08.480 You might recall last year, the highlight of our trip was scrumming Albert Bourla.

00:22:12.560 Here's just a taste of that to remind you. Mr. Bourla, can I ask you, when did you know that the

00:22:18.720 vaccines didn't stop transmission? How long did you know that without saying it publicly?

00:22:23.840 Thank you very much. I'm sorry to that question. I mean, we now know that the vaccines didn't stop

00:22:29.920 transmission. But why did you keep it secret? You said it was 100 percent effective, then 90 percent,

00:22:37.680 then 80 percent, then 70 percent. But we now know that the vaccines do not stop transmission.

00:22:43.520 Why did you keep that secret? Have a nice day.

00:22:46.720 I won't have a nice day until I know the answer. Why did you keep it a secret that your vaccine

00:22:53.280 did not stop transmission?

00:22:56.800 Is it time to apologize to the world, sir, to give refunds back to the countries that

00:23:02.000 poured all their money into your vaccine that doesn't work, your ineffective vaccine?

00:23:07.760 Are you not ashamed of what you've done in the last couple of years?

00:23:10.160 Do you have any apologies to the public, sir? I think Albert Bourla won't make the mistake again

00:23:15.440 of walking in the streets unattended. He'll probably, if he's here at all, he'll probably be

00:23:21.200 in one of those VIP vans with the darkened windows. But we did bump into an executive from AstraZeneca,

00:23:28.640 whose first instinct was to run and hide in a building. We waited, and he came out later with

00:23:36.720 a few talking points. You tell me how you think this went. Can I ask you a couple questions

00:23:42.400 on how AstraZeneca's planning for the disease X? Do you have any comments about the coming

00:23:48.960 infection X that they're talking about here?

00:23:51.040 How come you guys are running away, David?

00:23:54.880 Over here. Get out of the street. 0.64

00:23:56.720 Okay. I've got some questions about AstraZeneca.

00:23:59.840 Yeah, I'd love to. And thank you for doing that.

00:24:01.360 Yeah, you're welcome.

00:24:02.080 Well, I want to ask you about AstraZeneca because you've been in the news a lot.

00:24:05.840 And I want to say, first of all, what lessons do you think AstraZeneca has learned

00:24:10.080 from COVID-19? Do you think you did anything wrong?

00:24:14.720 Well, I think that the biggest lessons that were learned is that public-private partnerships

00:24:20.560 have really been brought to the fore as a way that progress can be made.

00:24:25.440 So you're saying the vaccine mandates, is that what you mean?

00:24:28.080 Oh, no. I'm actually really talking more instead about the

00:24:31.840 global effort that was made by the entire sector to be able to address the pandemic.

00:24:37.200 Well, that's one thing, and I have no problem with that. But what about the forcible nature

00:24:41.360 that so many people were forced to take the jab or lose their job?

00:24:44.720 Oh, well, what I'd like to actually just say within this is that we're certainly proud

00:24:50.720 of the efforts that collectively that the healthcare sector made.

00:24:53.360 Right. And I know that, and I'm not disputing that.

00:24:55.200 But I think that if you'd like to discuss any of this further,

00:24:57.440 that you can certainly be in contact with our media relations group,

00:25:00.240 and they'd be happy to get in touch with you on it. Okay?

00:25:02.080 I don't think they would be happy to get in touch with me because they,

00:25:05.200 just like you're not answering.

00:25:06.720 I have an appointment that I do need to go to.

00:25:07.200 Well, let's walk into, I'm walking with you. I'm not slowing you down.

00:25:11.040 How do you feel about vaccine mandates? Do you think they're a legitimate public policy solution?

00:25:15.120 Well, we certainly know from a lot of the evidence that vaccines across a number of

00:25:18.800 different disease areas have made an impact on public health.

00:25:22.080 And I'm not disputing that. I'm asking you about the forcible nature that if people didn't,

00:25:26.960 if they weren't forced to take your medicine against their will, they'd be fired.

00:25:30.960 I need to go on this. But what I would say is, is that all of this comes

00:25:33.920 down to local decisions that are made by countries. Local decisions? I think you profited by it.

00:25:38.480 Anyways, I don't want to show you all the videos we did because there's just not enough time.

00:25:42.080 Can I invite you to go to our special website, wefreports.com? That's where we're going to put

00:25:48.080 all of them. And it's not just me, of course, it's Avi. And we've got a team of videographers,

00:25:53.040 another here. So we're going to have new uploads every day. And I'm excited about what we're doing

00:26:00.240 here. I see that we've inspired other citizen journalists. I've met several people. There was

00:26:05.360 a fellow from Portugal. There were people stopping us on the street. In fact, when Avi landed at the

00:26:10.560 airport, Customs, the person at Customs recognized him. Rebel News is showing what citizen journalism

00:26:17.360 really can be. And it's pretty fun. There's a fellow here from Germany. I mean, there are rebellious 1.00

00:26:23.680 people around the world who are inspired by what we're doing here. And I think it's caused the World

00:26:30.480 Economic Forum to change. For example, they don't publish their full guest list anymore. They don't

00:26:35.200 want us to get a jump on who's here. But let me close with a snippet of a video that you can see in

00:26:40.160 full on the WF Reports website. I bumped into Mark Carney, the former governor of the Bank of Canada,

00:26:46.400 who then went on to become the boss of the Bank of England. And now he works for the United Nations,

00:26:50.320 pushing global warming. And his name is frequently touted as a successor to Justin Trudeau for the

00:26:56.800 leader of the Liberal Party and presumably for Prime Minister. It's basically Mark Carney

00:27:03.680 and Chrystia Freeland, I would say, are the two leading candidates. I'd never talked to Mark

00:27:08.000 Carney before in my life, never interacted with him at all. My colleague Avi Amini had. I saw him

00:27:12.800 talking to Mark Carney and I sort of jumped in as a tag team. I'll show you some of that, not all,

00:27:18.080 but because I want you to see the whole thing for yourself at wefreports.com. But here's a taste

00:27:23.280 of Mark Carney and let me say, he's good. He took a scrappy, hostile situation and turned it around

00:27:32.160 by not being defensive, by not being mean, by not being condescending. I gotta say, he's smarter than

00:27:38.160 Justin Trudeau. He's a lot more socially normal than the very awkward and twitchy Chrystia Freeland.

00:27:44.480 I think he's got some of that foreign fancy pants vibe that undid Michael Ignatieff. I don't know 0.91

00:27:50.480 how he'll do against Pierre Polyev's populism, but I gotta say, if Mark Carney becomes the Liberal

00:27:56.320 Party candidate, he's gonna be a tough contender. Take a look at how he handled me and Avi Amini.

00:28:01.760 Let me ask you, let me ask you something. So, um, Justin Trudeau is struggling in the polls there.

00:28:07.760 Um, what would your, what would your, I guess, advice be to Trudeau? Because you've got an election

00:28:14.000 coming up, at least in the next couple of years. Um,

00:28:16.560 It's so good of you to follow Canadian talk specs that close.

00:28:19.600 Yeah. Well, what, no, seriously, what would you, what would you advise, Justin?

00:28:22.880 You have an election in Australia before that.

00:28:24.960 I'm the one asking questions, sir. What is, are there rules in, rules in England?

00:28:28.960 What here are we, don't worry.

00:28:30.960 I'm going, how's the scene out of there? Seriously, he needs help. He's down 20, Paul.

00:28:35.040 He has a general, women are choosing the two years more in the middle. I don't remember the last time 0.97

00:28:40.560 that happened. What? Advice to the Ableton of Soleil?

00:28:44.240 The, uh, it's just going to a simple anchor for us. Good.

00:28:48.960 Come on. We know that you're in the line, uh, you know, for the succession.

00:28:52.560 The other day with, uh, I've never served in Ottawa. Is that fair?

00:28:56.800 Uh, I see to try me. It wasn't about sitting in Ottawa. Uh, I, well, uh, I do,

00:29:03.840 a lot of words to, uh, trying to see that. Do you ever register as a lobbyist or is it just friendship?

00:29:11.920 Sorry, I don't. When you meet, when you meet with the PM on climate,

00:29:15.360 are you there on your own behalf or are you there on behalf of it?

00:29:17.760 Well, I do not. I, uh, am the UN's chapter one boy on.

00:29:23.920 I want to make it so pretty cold and that would pan it down the minus.

00:29:26.960 Yeah, and that cold. No.

00:29:28.640 I had it for, uh, and Gilboa was saying go to electric.

00:29:32.400 That doesn't work in for a week. Well, you've got to have, watch out.

00:29:36.000 You've got to have this full, uh, you've got to have full capacity.

00:29:39.200 Yes. And you've got to have, um, you've got to, you've got to,

00:29:42.720 one of the things we're going to need to do, uh, in Canada, cross Canada, um,

00:29:47.200 and this is, you know, for the benefit of the droughts and the consumer is build out the

00:29:52.080 grid and stretch, you can build it out. Number two, one is they believe, regardless of the

00:29:59.600 form of energy you've had, uh, we had, is, um, just also to have, what fell, a capacity market

00:30:07.120 alongside, uh, the electricity bar. So you think that Gilboa's plan is a little bit hasty

00:30:12.000 since we haven't found the foundational day? Well, I think what's important is that, you know,

00:30:16.720 whether it's, uh,

00:30:17.680 whether it's a, uh, in Alberta or Canada or Canada or Canada or Canada.

00:30:26.160 And it's, uh, it's a time-building. Look, we're in a position, uh, where, uh,

00:30:32.240 meeting them is a condition where we have been, we can, you've got the deep, you've always, uh,

00:30:40.960 We've always had the ability to develop new solutions to this.

00:30:47.340 But the PM is saying there was no market for natural gas.

00:30:49.900 How do you feel about natural gas, especially to relieve Ukraine from other ASEANs from Russian gas?

00:30:55.980 How can they have been buying Russian gas to Tartari gas with Justin Trudeau at the Umbau of Canadian?

00:31:01.060 Well, we would have to get to build the Ukraine, which was called LAD, to get the gas in mind.

00:31:08.980 What's that?

00:31:10.960 Well, if this was Canada, you could have him arrested.

00:31:18.680 Your colleague, have you seen that?

00:31:22.280 Well, I don't think she did.

00:31:25.360 If the police tried to arrest me, would you?

00:31:30.440 Well, thank you for showing that.

00:31:35.780 We're friends already.

00:31:36.840 I've been a public figure in Canada, then a public figure in the UK.

00:31:40.260 I know you've got to answer to a couple of things.

00:31:42.140 Have you guys, you know, you asked her for a few minutes?

00:31:44.820 Well, I want to say I could be saying that because I have to say, Mr. Pulas has not yet said anything in the same that you've had.

00:31:51.740 She's been happy to let the cops do her work for it. 1.00

00:31:54.200 And if she disagrees with the cops, she hasn't said so.

00:31:58.160 Well, I've said what I said.

00:32:00.260 But look, the questions you were asking earlier about energy, and I'm going to have to go on.

00:32:05.580 I appreciate the work.

00:32:07.720 Well, that's my show for today.

00:32:09.080 I tell you, we're having a great time out here.

00:32:10.920 But it's hard work.

00:32:12.680 We get up very early.

00:32:13.620 We take the train to Davos.

00:32:15.860 We're outside.

00:32:16.340 It's quite cold.

00:32:17.640 We're wearing gloves and boots.

00:32:19.060 I've got three layers on underneath.

00:32:20.400 But we love it, and it's adrenalizing.

00:32:24.320 I feel like we're hunting for supervillains, but occasionally we get, you know, there's some good guys.

00:32:31.180 I want to show you that, for example.

00:32:32.840 Let me leave on this note.

00:32:35.320 Senator Coons, a Democrat from the United States, I'm really not that familiar with him, but we spotted him, and I had some questions for him.

00:32:41.580 At first, he didn't want to talk to me at all.

00:32:43.580 He stonewalled me, and his staff actually sort of tried to block me.

00:32:46.560 But when he realized I was persistent, he said, yeah, why am I being so funny about this?

00:32:51.240 Let me just talk to this guy.

00:32:52.800 And I have to say, his answers were good.

00:32:57.100 And my respect for him rose.

00:32:59.240 And he's a Democrat.

00:33:00.620 Here, watch my walk and talk with Senator Coons. 0.97

00:33:04.580 Senator, what have we made for the Iowa caucus since yesterday?

00:33:08.040 What do you think of the result?

00:33:10.900 Sorry, I'm sorry.

00:33:12.540 Senator, no. 0.86

00:33:13.740 Go to either profile.

00:33:16.560 Not, but, Senator, please.

00:33:19.540 I mean, sure.

00:33:20.060 I don't know who you think you are.

00:33:21.240 I'm allowed to ask questions and switch to him.

00:33:24.360 Senator, what do you think of the cards on Trump's win that?

00:33:29.560 Democratic crosses.

00:33:31.340 Glad to see that it went off well, and it was free and fair.

00:33:37.660 Cocktis and important first step in our primary cross.

00:33:40.140 Do you think this is good news for the Democrats?

00:33:41.640 Look, I think we're going to have a robust and open election process this year.

00:33:48.760 And I look forward to President Biden being reelected.

00:33:52.280 What do you think of the possible third-party candidacy of RFK, Jr.?

00:33:56.200 He seems to be drawing infarcts from President Biden's support.

00:34:00.360 I'm not sure that polling shows that.

00:34:03.000 Look, there's a half-dozen third-party candidates.

00:34:05.440 There are in every cycle.

00:34:06.500 Sometimes they have an impact, sometimes they don't.

00:34:09.300 Could I ask you what your goals are here at Zabel?

00:34:12.380 I'm part of a bipartisan delegation that has, you know, I just met with.

00:34:17.640 Don't fall.

00:34:18.580 Two different foreign ministers about the hostages of Gaza, about the Ukraine war.

00:34:25.720 I just met with President Zelensky.

00:34:27.680 Do you have any news that you're able to report about your meeting with President Zelensky?

00:34:34.100 It's a very positive conversation about the determination of many of us in the Senate,

00:34:39.500 in both parties, to continue support for Ukraine.

00:34:43.960 Very kind, thank you.

00:34:45.200 That's right, mate.

00:34:46.460 How worried are you about misinformation and disinformation?

00:34:49.820 I understand.

00:34:50.520 It's a very significant drop.

00:34:52.100 But how do we deal without engaging in censorship?

00:34:55.020 It's a balance, we have to strike.

00:34:57.960 Free and open societies with wired access to information.

00:35:01.480 Professionals, I mean, that is something that is old, but we also need it as communities

00:35:07.760 and then states to be discerning about the information that they consume.

00:35:14.860 This is a challenge globally.

00:35:17.220 One of the criticisms of Davos is that there's not a lot of transparency,

00:35:21.180 that there's meetings that aren't disclosed, lots of lobbying behind the scenes that's not trapped.

00:35:27.440 Do you have any response to that?

00:35:29.800 I publish reports on the meetings I have and who I talk to,

00:35:34.120 but I also think that it's, look, many different people come here from around the world for different purposes.

00:35:40.300 Senator Rounds and I came here briefly in two days for a fairly simple purpose,

00:35:45.800 which was to show continued strong bipartisan support for the fight of Ukraine against Russia.

00:35:52.700 What do you think of the South African prosecution at the Israel Court?

00:35:57.820 I haven't looked into the details, but I, excuse me, I'm really going to fall.

00:36:04.540 I'd rather not be trying to, you, not break my wrist.

00:36:08.440 So I did the South African ministry yesterday.

00:36:12.320 And it's worth continuing to pay attention to.

00:36:14.560 Let's not freak, Klein.

00:36:15.900 So, look, we do real interviews.

00:36:17.660 I suppose our interview with Mark Carney was a real interview, too.

00:36:20.260 I guess we're just so used to the antagonistic style because we deal with politicians who more and more simply refuse to answer questions.

00:36:29.880 And I think that's a problem of politicians.

00:36:31.940 If you are in public life, answer questions from the people you seek to rule.

00:36:37.200 And that's the quirky thing.

00:36:38.660 The World Economic Forum, they were never elected by anyone.

00:36:41.780 And by nature, they don't believe to talk, believe in talking to the rabble. 1.00

00:36:47.360 Well, we'll keep at it until tomorrow.

00:36:50.260 On behalf of all of us around the world and here in the Swiss Alps, to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - January 17, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Welcome to Davos — home to the condescending, fancy pant oligarchs who rule us from the shadows

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