Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Wendy Mesley wants you to know she's disappointed after FINALLY being fired by the CBC

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. I'm going to go deep on Wendy Mesley's big diary, dear diary, by Wendy Mesley.

00:00:07.480 She was given 1,500 words in the Globe and Mail to explain her use of the N-word.

00:00:14.340 She never apologizes for it, though, which is sort of interesting.

00:00:18.960 I take you through it line by line, and I'm sorry to do that to you, but it's quite a Rorschach test.

00:00:25.200 That's those inkblot tests, just a little insight into Wendy Mesley's mind, quite incredible.

00:00:31.900 So join me for that.

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00:01:06.120 Tonight, Wendy Mesley is finally fired from the CBC, and she wants to let you know she's really disappointed.

00:01:22.520 It's July 7th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:25.200 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:30.920 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:35.000 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:45.640 You know Wendy Mesley. We all know Wendy Mesley.

00:01:48.740 She had a long career at the CBC marked by nepotism.

00:01:54.380 She was, of course, Peter Mansbridge's ex, so she had a special place at the Mother Corp.

00:02:00.100 She was a conspiracy theorist, which was different than her early career as just arm candy. 0.97

00:02:06.100 She had a show in the end of her twilight years that was basically a U.S. conspiracy of the week.

00:02:13.620 Crazy rumors about Donald Trump Jr. about to be arrested.

00:02:18.760 Stuff that was too kooky for the internet.

00:02:21.400 It made it on Wendy Mesley's show.

00:02:24.520 She was on the lowest rated time, on the lowest rated day of the channel.

00:02:29.600 It was like her retirement home.

00:02:32.060 But she did serve a function for the CBC.

00:02:35.400 She was the channel's accuser-in-chief in the culture wars,

00:02:40.200 accusing all of Trudeau's enemies and the CBC enemies of being racist bigots.

00:02:46.720 Here's a clip of her interviewing Maxime Bernier,

00:02:50.360 and she just couldn't help but call him a racist, because that's her move.

00:02:56.040 You got a lot of criticism for your comments about extreme multiculturalism.

00:03:00.100 Kicked off quite a debate.

00:03:01.500 It has become a bit of a dog whistle for people with bigoted points of view.

00:03:10.800 And I know that you have spoken out about how you don't want these people in your party.

00:03:14.720 You're trying to get them off your social media.

00:03:17.780 But I do wonder if you've noticed that rebel media, for example, does seem to be fond of you.

00:03:26.160 It's been accused, of course, of being supportive of white supremacist views.

00:03:29.440 Ezra Levant, they have a million subscribers on YouTube, 150,000 followers on Facebook.

00:03:38.360 Do you want his support?

00:03:40.580 Do you want his audience?

00:03:42.600 I never understand why people talk to CBC hacks like Wendy Mansley.

00:03:47.060 They're not acting in good faith.

00:03:49.040 Jordan Peterson is perhaps the most successful Canadian author in a generation.

00:03:54.720 I suppose it makes sense that he gave an interview to the CBC.

00:03:58.920 I mean, he's done interviews all around the world.

00:04:01.280 But imagine how lame you have to be as Wendy Mansley.

00:04:04.640 You have Jordan Peterson, the public intellectual of the moment.

00:04:08.640 And you just want to ask him why he's going on Rebel News.

00:04:12.280 I've shown you this clip before.

00:04:14.140 After you're speaking out against the federal bill, C-16, and gender pronouns and so on,

00:04:20.100 the federal government cut your funding for research.

00:04:22.780 Rebel Media came in and did a crowdfunding project for you, raised about $200,000.

00:04:30.380 After Charlottesville and the riots, the protests there, many people cut ties with Rebel Media,

00:04:38.180 including the conservative leader Andrew Scheer, saying that it could be seen as giving hate groups a platform.

00:04:44.120 You still go on there.

00:04:47.060 So I'm wondering, why do you go on Rebel Media after Charlottesville?

00:04:52.080 What a lame cancel culture, you know, de-platformer.

00:04:58.680 So pitiful.

00:05:00.100 It didn't work.

00:05:00.940 I mean, water off a duck's back for Jordan Peterson.

00:05:04.500 Bigger and smarter people than Wendy Mansley have tried to cancel him.

00:05:07.960 But I just wanted to show you what she did for a living besides being Peter Mansbridge's ex.

00:05:14.940 She was the smearer, the character assassin, the de-platformer. 0.79

00:05:21.140 She would accuse you of racism if you simply were conservative.

00:05:25.980 Alas, the racism was coming from inside the house.

00:05:30.340 Wendy Mesley, it turns out, repeatedly dropped the N-word in full in staff meetings. 0.96

00:05:37.960 Including talking to people who were black or other visible minorities.

00:05:43.900 She used the N-word and everyone heard it and saw it on her staff and they were appalled.

00:05:50.420 But she wasn't fired.

00:05:52.560 Not until news broke was she fired.

00:05:56.300 But actually, it turned out that although she was suspended from her show, she wasn't fired.

00:06:03.800 She just didn't have to work anymore to collect her salary. 1.00

00:06:07.960 And the CBC, instead of firing her or condemning her, simply suspended her and then did what they did for Xi'an Gomeshi.

00:06:19.300 They covered up for her.

00:06:21.260 They defended her.

00:06:22.040 We showed you this from access to information documents that we received.

00:06:26.900 The CBC had a policy of not allowing comments on their website that said what Wendy Mesley had been fired for or suspended for.

00:06:37.740 They were censoring comments that gave the facts.

00:06:41.280 They themselves wouldn't tell the truth about what she said.

00:06:45.180 But they wouldn't let anyone else say it either.

00:06:47.380 They banned any reference to it from all of the CBC's social media sites.

00:06:54.380 They have many Twitter accounts and Instagram accounts.

00:06:58.240 None of them were allowed to talk about their own scandal.

00:07:01.580 And incredibly, the entire branch of the CBC called Radio Canada, the French version, didn't say a single word about her racism or her suspension.

00:07:14.680 Well, she finally was fired, and I don't know why they hung on to her for so long.

00:07:22.640 But today in the Globe and Mail, she has a 1,500-word pity party that is just incredible.

00:07:32.520 The tone deafness, the insight into her mind of how she is the victim here is quite incredible.

00:07:40.660 And I want to take you through it.

00:07:41.720 But I read this article online, and of course, you can search, do a word search on a website, as you know.

00:07:51.180 I counted the number of times she used the word I or me in this article, and it was 74 times.

00:08:01.720 74 times.

00:08:02.900 She really is her own favorite subject.

00:08:05.460 I suppose some of that's fair.

00:08:06.620 I mean, she was talking about her incident.

00:08:09.020 But it just, when you have that in mind and you read it, you realize what a person you're dealing with, with Wendy Mesley.

00:08:16.840 And I truly feel sorry for her staff who had to put up with her for so many years.

00:08:21.960 The headline is just gorgeous.

00:08:25.160 I made mistakes, but my departure wasn't the solution to the CBC's problem with racism.

00:08:34.160 Sorry, you're the one dropping the N-bomb. 0.97

00:08:38.280 You're the one talking to black people and using the N-word. 0.99

00:08:42.120 And you were just the scapegoat for the CBC's problem. 0.99

00:08:48.040 You were the CBC's problem.

00:08:50.280 I don't think there was anyone else of that senior rank strutting around the CBC just dropping those swears.

00:08:58.340 Who talks that way?

00:09:00.140 Unbelievable.

00:09:01.100 Their problem?

00:09:01.980 I want to take you through the article.

00:09:04.260 It's an incredible reflection, a little insight into Wendy Mesley's mind.

00:09:08.500 But it's also incredible that the Globe and Mail published this.

00:09:11.400 My favorite part is the first line.

00:09:15.620 Wendy Mesley is an award-winning broadcast journalist. 0.86

00:09:19.800 Yeah, if you say so.

00:09:22.660 But I think she's known for something else now.

00:09:25.700 Just incredible.

00:09:27.100 For almost 40 years, my name had a prefix.

00:09:29.560 I was the CBC's Wendy Mesley.

00:09:33.220 Well, I'm sure some people call you that.

00:09:35.160 I always called you Peter Mansbridge's ex.

00:09:38.280 That's how you got the job.

00:09:40.120 Or if not got it, that's how you kept it.

00:09:42.760 I fought against the status quo my whole life.

00:09:47.300 That's why I got into journalism.

00:09:49.080 Yeah, no, sister.

00:09:51.640 When you're working for the state broadcaster as a government journalist who gives tongue baths to authority and smacks down as racist any opposition, you're not fighting against the status quo.

00:10:04.400 Well, you are the status quo.

00:10:08.080 The article goes on.

00:10:09.540 I'm not going to read all of it.

00:10:10.540 There's just too much to criticize all of it.

00:10:12.780 But let me hop ahead.

00:10:14.420 She actually has the audacity to invoke George Floyd, the U.S. man who was killed by a cop.

00:10:22.940 She says, after George Floyd's murder last May, a black CBC reporter tweeted that she had repeatedly been called the N-word.

00:10:32.120 I was furious.

00:10:34.560 I wanted to put her on the air to discuss that and said so in a conference call with producers for The Weekly with Wendy Mansley.

00:10:44.100 Okay, but why didn't you do that, Wendy?

00:10:48.740 Why did you never put her on TV?

00:10:52.940 This isn't a lie, is it, Wendy?

00:10:56.040 During our discussion, I was so upset over what our colleague experienced that I stupidly filled in the N-word.

00:11:05.300 Why?

00:11:06.140 I've asked myself that question a thousand times and I have no good answer.

00:11:11.080 Well, you've got 1,500 words here.

00:11:15.500 Who does that?

00:11:17.180 You're talking to a person who's telling you they're upset about the N-word and you just think, well, let me help you by saying it at you? 0.96

00:11:27.840 What a, you know, you don't know why you did it? 0.91

00:11:32.040 Maybe it's because you're a bit of a racist? 0.59

00:11:35.280 Just a guess? 0.95

00:11:36.700 Just a guess?

00:11:37.600 Would you give the benefit of the doubt to anyone else, Wendy Mansley?

00:11:41.000 I really don't know anyone else in media who drops the N-word like throwing confetti and you just, oh, I just don't know what happened.

00:11:50.020 Yeah, I know what happened, Wendy.

00:11:51.460 But here's what gets him more incredible.

00:11:56.660 She's talking about how in the context of George Floyd and a black CBC producer who's complaining about racism, she drops the N-word.

00:12:05.540 But get this, and look at the wording here.

00:12:08.040 Look at the passive past tense.

00:12:09.600 That would unearth an incident from months before while preparing another show on racism focusing on Quebec's controversial 21, Bill 21, which banned head coverings.

00:12:21.500 That would unearth an earlier incident from months before.

00:12:26.460 Unearthed, was something buried?

00:12:28.600 Did something need to be unearthed?

00:12:30.260 What's she talking about?

00:12:31.100 Was there something hidden?

00:12:32.880 No, no, no.

00:12:34.480 She's talking about herself.

00:12:35.960 No, that would unearth an incident.

00:12:39.960 No, it unearthed something that you yourself had said, sister.

00:12:44.960 To make my point, she's talking about an earlier incident.

00:12:48.540 I referenced the seminal 1968 book, Né, Ré, Brond, Amérique, a Marxist analysis by the francophone writer Pierre Vallière.

00:12:56.280 Again, I filled in the blank by saying the English title.

00:13:00.360 To be honest, it didn't occur to me to say white N-words of North America.

00:13:03.540 It didn't occur to you not to say the N-words. 1.00

00:13:07.220 You're talking about racism.

00:13:09.000 And it just didn't occur to you not to use the derogatory word.

00:13:14.360 It didn't occur to you.

00:13:16.060 You just, I mean, that would be weird to say N-word instead of to actually.

00:13:22.280 So your default is to say the N-word.

00:13:25.600 That's who you are, how you live, 40 years at the CBC, and just no one ever told you that was wrong.

00:13:32.140 How many times did Peter Mansbridge hear you say that word and not correct you?

00:13:38.640 40 years at the CBC and it never occurred to her not to say the N-word?

00:13:42.920 What planet are you from?

00:13:46.100 And to think she's the hate finder general who would grill Maxime Bernier and Jordan Peterson over perceived intolerance or offensiveness.

00:13:57.280 This is incredible.

00:13:58.760 The CBC suspended me.

00:14:00.500 At one point I thought I was going to be fired.

00:14:02.660 Instead, I was punished and also ordered to take sensitivity training.

00:14:07.380 Okay, now are you saying that the sensitivity training was a punishment?

00:14:13.560 And I don't quite know what she means by that.

00:14:17.120 It was made clear to me that the CBC would look after the story and me.

00:14:23.620 Hang on a second.

00:14:24.620 So you're saying the CBC said they would defend you.

00:14:27.760 They would cover up for you.

00:14:29.160 They would help you get through it.

00:14:32.380 Well, they sort of did, didn't they?

00:14:34.300 Because they didn't actually fire her.

00:14:36.360 They kept her on the salary. 0.52

00:14:38.360 And as I showed you before, they censored the story both in comments, on social media, and in French CBC.

00:14:45.940 So the CBC actually did circle the wagons around the N-bomb dropper. 1.00

00:14:53.280 But she's the victim here.

00:14:55.380 She says, trusting them was my second big mistake.

00:15:00.540 As in, she assumed they would cover up for her.

00:15:03.980 She assumed they would do what they did for Zhang Gomeshi, set up a war room and try and discredit any critics like they did for Zhang Gomeshi.

00:15:12.320 The CBC did not offer me any public support.

00:15:16.600 What were they supposed to do?

00:15:18.680 Oh, she said the N-word in a good way. 1.00

00:15:23.300 She meant it in a good way.

00:15:25.500 You know that sort of kooky woman on the wrong side of 60 who's been accusing everyone else of racism for years? 1.00

00:15:36.060 She's got her little conspiracy theory show at a time and place no one watches. 1.00

00:15:40.060 You know that kook? 0.92

00:15:40.940 And she's dropping the N-word in meetings with black staff? 0.98

00:15:46.400 What's that word?

00:15:48.380 We support her.

00:15:50.540 She actually thought that they would support her dropping the N-bomb.

00:15:56.300 I also felt it would have been wrong for me to play the victim card.

00:16:01.040 Yeah, sister, you're playing the victim card in 1,500 words here in the Globe and Mail.

00:16:06.360 This is incredible.

00:16:07.900 This is just creative writing.

00:16:10.080 I don't know if this was written by her or Peter Mansbridge or some crisis PR team.

00:16:15.360 It feels like it was written by a committee.

00:16:17.600 It's incredible.

00:16:18.680 Let me just read this next paragraph.

00:16:21.540 This, I think, is the most telling.

00:16:24.040 So she's mad that the CBC fired her.

00:16:27.780 She's mad that they didn't support her or cover up for her or defend her or whatever. 0.80

00:16:32.780 She's just mad at a lot of things.

00:16:34.180 She's mad that her earlier racist comments were unearthed. 0.99

00:16:39.200 But look who she's the most mad at. 1.00

00:16:41.860 Let me read.

00:16:43.740 My silence backfired as players on all sides used me as a cudgel to advance political interests.

00:16:51.900 While some journalists offered public support, my most vocal defenders were free speech warriors,

00:16:58.600 yuck, who wanted to make me a cautionary tale about the dangers of cancel culture. 0.76

00:17:04.180 That distinction horrified me because I fought to cancel injustice my whole life.

00:17:09.360 I resent being made a poster child of a movement I wasn't part of.

00:17:13.840 Did you hear what she said there?

00:17:16.380 She's fought to cancel injustice her whole life.

00:17:20.060 She believes in cancel culture. 0.82

00:17:23.600 Let me read that again.

00:17:25.240 That distinction horrified me.

00:17:26.700 She horrified being distinguished as the cause celeb for anti-cancel culture types. 0.66

00:17:31.880 She hated the fact that free speech people were for her.

00:17:35.520 She hated the fact that anti-cancel culture people were for her.

00:17:38.760 Because I fought to cancel injustice my whole life.

00:17:42.440 Even after she was canceled, she is proud of canceling other people.

00:17:50.100 I resented being made a poster child of a movement I wasn't part of.

00:17:55.600 So she's actually not for free speech.

00:17:59.440 She's actually for cancel culture. 0.96

00:18:03.280 She just thought somehow she'd be protected from it by, I don't know,

00:18:07.360 Peter Mansbridge or some PR team.

00:18:10.160 She still believes in cancel culture after everything. 0.86

00:18:12.680 Just for other people.

00:18:14.540 All right, I'm almost done.

00:18:16.300 And I believe the CBC had an agenda to use me to distract or absolve themselves

00:18:21.160 from their own underlying problems.

00:18:23.080 Yeah, I don't think the CBC was planning this, sister.

00:18:26.940 I think you're a little bit solipsistic.

00:18:29.180 Not the entire world orbits around you.

00:18:31.720 You created a problem.

00:18:33.380 And they finally, a year later, solved it.

00:18:36.380 This wasn't some big plan of theirs to, you know, expiate their own sins

00:18:40.960 by having you blow things up.

00:18:43.720 But I soon learned there had been at least three other cases in the network

00:18:48.240 involving shows in which the N-word was allegedly used in meetings

00:18:52.040 while one was reported.

00:18:53.780 The other cases seemed to have disappeared internally.

00:18:56.200 The broader questions of systemic racism swept under the rug

00:18:59.220 until I became a convenient device for cleaning up their brand.

00:19:04.480 Are you saying that other people should be canceled too?

00:19:08.900 Are you saying that you shouldn't have been canceled

00:19:11.980 because it was just a trick?

00:19:13.580 This woman is weird. 1.00

00:19:15.500 After the cancellation of my show, I was offered another role

00:19:17.940 that I saw as unreasonable.

00:19:20.060 Now that's a little bit of news.

00:19:21.480 What role did the CBC offer this racist? 0.97

00:19:25.240 She's a serial N-word dropper. 1.00

00:19:27.520 She believes in cancel culture. 0.82

00:19:30.060 She thinks this whole thing is some conspiracy.

00:19:34.300 Like I said, she's a conspiracy theorist. 1.00

00:19:36.360 This whole thing is some conspiracy to take out the dirty laundry on her back. 0.99

00:19:42.020 The CBC offered her a gig of some sort.

00:19:44.640 She doesn't say what.

00:19:45.560 Even after her scandal?

00:19:48.240 What role was that?

00:19:50.140 Who offered her a job after that? 1.00

00:19:53.620 That's interesting.

00:19:55.900 But remember, it's about her and her feelings.

00:19:59.520 I remain angry.

00:20:01.900 I'm angry at myself for hurting people.

00:20:04.240 I'm angry at the CBC for abandoning me because of two moments.

00:20:09.180 Do you think it was just two, really?

00:20:11.540 Instead of judging me by my whole career.

00:20:13.620 Well, isn't that funny?

00:20:15.920 Because that's sort of how she operated on conservatives, isn't it? 0.97

00:20:19.760 I understand the mistake I made was serious and invited repercussions,

00:20:23.940 but I also submit that using a particular situation to advance broader agendas is divisive and wrong.

00:20:30.280 Really?

00:20:30.560 That's the whole description of your awful show.

00:20:35.740 I'm sad.

00:20:37.780 I'm left feeling mostly disappointed.

00:20:40.860 And it goes on and it finally, blessedly ends.

00:20:44.260 What an incredible insight into a horrible woman. 0.81

00:20:49.180 I wish she hadn't written this. 0.69

00:20:51.320 I wish the worst I knew about Wendy Mesley was that she was a self-appointed anti-racism hunter who herself was a racist. 1.00

00:21:01.020 That's pretty low.

00:21:02.500 But what I see in her article is all of that, plus a feeling of that she is the victim,

00:21:09.600 an entitlement that she demands the CBC stand by her even after her disgraces.

00:21:15.780 It's quite funny to read the comments, even though this is in the Globe and Mail, the fancy pants newspaper.

00:21:21.660 I see remarks along the line of, who's Wendy Mesley again?

00:21:26.160 And there is one comment I saw.

00:21:28.560 So, live by the sword, die by the sword.

00:21:32.640 Well, isn't that the truth?

00:21:34.220 You know, I think Wendy Mesley will land on her feet. 1.00

00:21:39.500 She's Peter Mansbridge's ex.

00:21:41.160 That counts for a lot.

00:21:42.560 And she did a lot of favors for a lot of powerful people. 0.99

00:21:46.220 She pretends that she fought the man, but she actually slept with the man and worked for the man 0.98

00:21:52.380 and polished the man's shoes for 40 years.

00:21:55.900 She worked for power. 0.99

00:21:57.180 She never challenged that.

00:21:58.560 In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if Justin Trudeau appoints her to the Senate or something.

00:22:04.320 I mean, after all, he's the guy who wore blackface so many times, he couldn't count. 0.96

00:22:11.820 Stay with us.

00:22:12.860 More ahead.

00:22:13.240 Well, Justin Trudeau is in Calgary, which suggests to me, since he hates that city and hates making that trip,

00:22:32.120 that an election is afoot.

00:22:33.820 He's just getting it out of the way now.

00:22:35.340 I expect that Trudeau will announce an election in August.

00:22:39.600 And the vote itself will be shortly after Labor Day, when school is back and work is back.

00:22:44.840 And once the lockdown is hopefully lifted in the last of Ontario, Justin Trudeau will be able to campaign in a sleepwalk mode in August,

00:22:53.840 when most Canadians are busy enjoying their first summer of freedom in memory.

00:22:58.700 And he'll have sort of a Joe Biden style, low energy, cocooned campaign, where he won't really engage in debates or questions from the media,

00:23:09.240 just little sound bites from his basement, as Joe Biden did.

00:23:13.040 Heck, it worked for Biden.

00:23:14.340 It'll work here.

00:23:15.100 Wouldn't surprise me if Trudeau tries to have mail-in ballots like they had in the United States to ensure the Democrats' victory.

00:23:22.920 Joining us now via Skype from Calgary is our Calgary reporter, Adam Sos, who has been at least trying to follow Trudeau around the city.

00:23:33.700 Adam, I think as a sign of things to come, Trudeau kicked out the media from his events today.

00:23:40.380 Is that correct?

00:23:41.980 Yeah.

00:23:42.520 So they've had a very small polling-type media situation where even mainstream outlets,

00:23:48.780 if they're not in the four or five pre-approved reporters, they're simply not being granted access.

00:23:55.080 What's worse than this, though, is we had a business this morning where the property owner really didn't have a problem with us being there.

00:24:02.760 Then Prime Minister's security team spoke with him and asked him to ask police and us to leave.

00:24:09.600 So he's like, well, I don't really have a problem with it.

00:24:11.440 There's a few protesters they asked to leave.

00:24:13.300 And then the Prime Minister's security team literally intervened for him to request our departure.

00:24:19.640 So hang on.

00:24:20.340 He wanted protesters gone, the security team.

00:24:24.400 Security is interested in physical security, safety.

00:24:28.400 If there was an actual threat to him, of course, I would agree with security.

00:24:33.100 But it sounds like if you've just described them as protesters, they were not violent or a threat.

00:24:39.040 They were just disagreeing with him.

00:24:40.940 Is that correct?

00:24:42.320 Yeah.

00:24:42.820 And I mean, they weren't even overtly disagreeing with him.

00:24:44.960 There's a few people who are simply standing around.

00:24:48.020 And it was kind of an awkward area where it was a long stretch of private property.

00:24:53.120 And the event was a private event around the corner.

00:24:56.080 But there was really no problem.

00:24:58.340 No one from the group seemed to have an issue with people being there until security members started pointing that out.

00:25:04.040 This trend continued throughout the day, of course.

00:25:08.000 There was only the same few limited media people allowed access.

00:25:11.980 But quite possibly the most concerning thing that we saw all day happened just now as Justin Trudeau was leaving the Palacer Hotel in Calgary.

00:25:20.240 He actually had a large police contingent block off a long stretch of the sidewalk.

00:25:26.540 They had all the big vehicles pull up.

00:25:28.800 And they were waiting there.

00:25:29.920 Families couldn't get through.

00:25:31.160 People couldn't get into the business.

00:25:32.920 They were spending about 15, 20 minutes shutting the sidewalk.

00:25:36.320 And it was a duke.

00:25:37.400 Justin Trudeau actually was going out another door.

00:25:40.940 So they set up this entire false departure scenario.

00:25:45.060 The police didn't even know.

00:25:46.280 They were rather upset that their time had been wasted.

00:25:48.660 And they didn't know that Justin Trudeau was using them as a distraction.

00:25:52.480 You know, I want to come back to your earlier comment that the security detail shooed away protesters.

00:26:01.000 You said they weren't really even protesting in a lively way.

00:26:03.860 But I would like to draw a distinction between shooing away protesters, which I disagree with unless the protesters are some sort of physical threat, and shooing away media.

00:26:14.160 You're not a protester.

00:26:15.640 You're a journalist.

00:26:17.080 Were you swept out as well?

00:26:20.320 Yeah.

00:26:20.820 And it was, at least there was some consistency, that we did notice global CTV, CBC people also being ejected.

00:26:29.960 So we certainly weren't being targeted.

00:26:31.340 In fact, we were the last media party standing there.

00:26:34.740 We're the last people that they asked to eject.

00:26:37.420 We're not sure if the owner was fans or something.

00:26:39.340 But we managed to stay there for quite a while after everyone was cleared out.

00:26:43.520 And then eventually at that point, that's when the security team for the prime minister spoke with the owner of the property.

00:26:49.960 And then he asked us to leave with police present.

00:26:52.400 Okay, so just to get this straight, Trudeau's team had all the media, except for his hand-picked friends, shooed away.

00:27:02.700 You stayed as long as you could.

00:27:05.200 Trudeau's people asked the owner to have you kicked off.

00:27:08.900 And you say you thought it was done reluctantly.

00:27:11.560 You know, that wouldn't surprise me if a private business owner, property owner in Calgary, A, believed in free speech, and B, frankly, was a rebel supporter.

00:27:20.160 I'm glad you did not leave quickly or too willingly.

00:27:25.300 I find this so indicative of Trudeau, and this is what I said when I introduced you.

00:27:32.620 He's going to have a low accountability, low access campaign.

00:27:37.880 Did any of the other media who were ejected, did any of them complain even under the voice, under their breath?

00:27:45.860 Did they complain to you in private?

00:27:47.760 Did any of them seem unhappy with being treated as cattle to be herded away?

00:27:53.080 Yeah, so certainly.

00:27:55.320 So I know the one individual who was from CBC Canada, Brent, he was part of the sort of contingent of media that found out the event was being around the back of the building.

00:28:07.620 So he was rather upset.

00:28:10.360 At one point, he spoke to them, and he seemed to be giving the indication that he might be allowed in, but it turned out that he was not allowed in in the end.

00:28:18.580 So, yeah, so there was a number of media outlets that were rather upset.

00:28:23.380 There was actually a significant altercation, and we did capture it, where David Pawlowski and a number of other counter-protesters were there.

00:28:31.880 And they got into a bit of an altercation with Global News, actually.

00:28:34.800 And the Global News cameraman was swearing extensively at Pawlowski.

00:28:41.080 So there was some altercations.

00:28:42.760 The media is definitely on high end.

00:28:45.360 Rick Ball, who was also present and tried to gain access but was unable to.

00:28:49.920 So definitely I think you're accurate when you say that there will not be media accountability for Justin Trudeau during this next election cycle.

00:28:57.040 Right.

00:28:57.300 I think Rick Ball, he's with the Calgary Sun.

00:28:59.220 He's a really great reporter, real shoe leather man in the people, one of my favorite guys.

00:29:03.720 Well, that's very interesting, and it's funny because I heard a little bit of this before we just invited you on.

00:29:09.860 And I really do think they're going to use the Joe Biden playbook.

00:29:13.580 A few controlled interviews, some niche YouTube interviews, but really keep the public away from Trudeau.

00:29:21.800 Keep Trudeau away from the public.

00:29:24.360 Don't let any independent journalists near him.

00:29:26.720 Have a few favorites like Rosemary Barton and the other plaintiffs at the CBC who actually sued the Conservative Party.

00:29:34.720 Shoo away Rebel News.

00:29:36.140 Call the cops on them if necessary.

00:29:37.820 And what gets me, Adam, it's not that I'm surprised.

00:29:40.920 Listen, the leopard doesn't change its spots.

00:29:42.640 This is what Trudeau and the liberals do.

00:29:44.860 What gets me is that this is now the acceptable culture now.

00:29:48.700 It's acceptable by the political media establishment.

00:29:52.120 This is just how it is now.

00:29:54.180 And if you don't like it, well, then don't take your media bailout, and they all do.

00:29:58.000 So I think that we are in a new era of semi-authoritarianism.

00:30:02.820 If you were to tell me that in Turkey or Pakistan or a place like that or Russia, the leaders' bodyguards shoot away press, I'd say, yeah, that sounds about right for Belarus. 1.00

00:30:18.300 But when you tell me it's in Calgary, I just get sad because I see what's happening to Canada.

00:30:23.340 Last word to you, Adam.

00:30:24.320 Do you have any last words before we say goodbye?

00:30:30.920 Anything?

00:30:31.920 How long is Trudeau expected to be in Alberta?

00:30:35.220 Yeah, sir.

00:30:35.760 Sir, there's just a big military vehicle flying overhead, so it's very loud.

00:30:40.260 It's been kind of a comedically short visit to Calgary.

00:30:44.100 He had two locations that are directly adjacent to the Calgary airport and one trip at one of the most expensive downtown Calgary hotels.

00:30:52.360 So he has an announcement coming at 1.45 today.

00:30:56.440 Some people have suggested that he may call the election today.

00:30:59.040 I don't think that's necessarily the case.

00:31:00.620 He's actually at one of the transit maintenance lines now, so we suggest that potentially he could be announcing funding for the Green Line or something along those lines.

00:31:09.380 But he arrived this morning around 8 a.m., and he's going to be gone by about 2.

00:31:14.700 We are hearing, though, that he may be back.

00:31:17.140 He's swinging into B.C., and he may be back for a Stampede breakfast this weekend already.

00:31:22.320 Yeah.

00:31:23.120 Well, I think that we've had a snapshot of what things are going to be like.

00:31:27.120 Adam, thanks for covering it.

00:31:28.480 And I'm glad to hear that that property owner was friendlier to Rebel News than Trudeau's bodyguard.

00:31:35.800 And I'm not sure if I'm going to call them thugs, but when you shoo away peaceful protesters and journalists, I think the label might fit.

00:31:42.960 Adam, great to see you.

00:31:43.700 Thanks for your work.

00:31:45.100 Thanks very much.

00:31:45.580 Really appreciate it.

00:31:46.220 All right, there you have it, Adam Sos, our Calgary reporter on the scene, one of various reporters.

00:31:51.760 I'm slightly surprised to hear, as you heard, too, that other mainstream reporters, including apparently a French CBC reporter, were shooed away by Trudeau's personal staff.

00:32:02.720 Stay with us more.

00:32:03.360 Hey, welcome back.

00:32:16.100 On my show last night, Maurice writes, Rebel needs to get a TV channel similar to Fox.

00:32:21.420 Then you can reach out to a nation.

00:32:23.760 Listen, I hear what you're saying.

00:32:25.140 Not just Fox, but in the United Kingdom, GB News.

00:32:28.940 Trouble is, that just simply won't happen in Canada.

00:32:32.420 I know, because I was part of the last effort to try.

00:32:35.560 Pierre-Carl Pelletot, as much of an establishment man as is possible, he literally owns a company called Quebecor.

00:32:43.320 He has the largest media company in that province.

00:32:47.080 Newspapers, TV stations, cable companies.

00:32:49.540 Even he, after sinking $50 million into Sun News Network, was undone by the CRTC.

00:32:57.540 A bunch of lawyers and bureaucrats with all their, you know, colluding with the cable company oligarchs, killed the Sun News Network.

00:33:05.220 If they would kill the Sun News Network against Pierre-Carl Pelletot, of course they would think nothing of destroying Rebel News.

00:33:12.180 Our future lies online.

00:33:14.240 Alfonso writes, we are experiencing the illusion of back to normal.

00:33:19.140 Get ready for the demonization of vaccine skeptics and the lockdowns and restrictions returning this fall, just in time for the annual flu season.

00:33:26.560 You're right, and I don't want you to think that I've suddenly said, okay, we're done on that.

00:33:32.540 I'm saying that I believe that the lockdowns will relax.

00:33:36.020 We'll have fewer lockdown news stories to write about.

00:33:40.060 Fewer lockdown fines to fight in our Fight the Fines campaign.

00:33:44.540 I think actually the vast majority of those fines will simply be abandoned by the government.

00:33:49.640 I did specifically mention that vaccine passports are the number one legal risk I see going forward.

00:33:55.720 I'm just trying to think ahead to other issues like the election, C-10 and C-36, the censorship bills,

00:34:03.300 the self-destruction of the media that took Trudeau's poisonous bailout.

00:34:07.520 I'm trying to think ahead, what will Rebel News be like?

00:34:11.220 Yes, obviously we're not done talking about the lockdowns and VACs and things like that,

00:34:15.460 but what comes after that?

00:34:18.020 Because there will be an after that.

00:34:19.980 There will be other issues, and I just want to position ourselves to take those on.

00:34:23.960 And I thank you for your support.

00:34:26.040 That's our show for today.

00:34:27.000 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:34:30.580 to you and I have a good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

00:34:33.020 We'll be right back.

Rebel News Podcast - July 08, 2021

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Wendy Mesley wants you to know she's disappointed after FINALLY being fired by the CBC

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