Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ What do the Trudeau Liberals know about their own carbon emissions？ Nothing, it turns out

00:00:00.000 the liberals are completely convinced that it's your greenhouse gas emissions and not

00:00:18.800 theirs ending the world they're so convinced they don't even bother to measure their own

00:00:23.120 then cosman gerja from true north joins me to discuss his expose the fertilizer files

00:00:28.400 it's february 3rd 2023 i'm sheila gun reed and you're watching the ezra levant show

00:00:34.240 you know it's absolutely astounding that the liberals can talk about the specific

00:00:54.180 degrees by which we need to dodge the bullet of global warming with absolute confidence they

00:01:01.040 tell me the world cannot go over 1.5 degrees of global warming from pre-industrial levels

00:01:06.380 but when you stop and really think about it how would you ever be able to measure that how do you

00:01:14.180 measure the average temperature increase of 1.5 degrees across the surface of the earth with

00:01:20.400 different topographies latitudes longitudes mountains rivers streams oceans grasslands

00:01:25.400 prairies wetlands rainforests deserts number of people number of animals all these things affect

00:01:33.600 the surface temperature and almost make it impossible to measure across any large space when you get your

00:01:42.520 weather from your weather app it is only the temperature exactly where the thermometer is

00:01:49.080 and it can vary across a very small space you know my friend michelle sterling from friends of science

00:01:56.180 did this very experiment in real time just to show us how absurd this thinking all is she put a handful

00:02:03.820 of thermometers in her backyard in different locations but not all that far apart just to show

00:02:10.060 how wildly the temperature varies

00:02:13.660 now let's just leave that for a few minutes and just see what happens i'm gonna go get my cell phone

00:02:27.620 so

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00:02:39.520 so we have 25 wizards in water

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00:02:50.140 like Noah Perkins

00:02:52.340 now let the lenses

00:02:54.380 Now, some of you may say, well, what kind of scientific experiment is that?

00:03:23.380 Every one of these polar bears or Bigfoot were parked in a different location.

00:03:28.380 They all had different thermometers. None of them were calibrated to this air.

00:03:33.380 And so this is a poor experiment because not all the thermometers and the sightings are exactly correct.

00:03:41.380 Well, what do you think about all the temperature monitors in the world?

00:03:46.380 Do you think they're all sighted correctly? Because you're wrong.

00:03:51.380 Do you think they're all well maintained? Because they're not.

00:03:55.380 They did this to demonstrate how insane it is to think that there's a global mean or average temperature that you could A, first measure and B, then stay beneath.

00:04:04.380 By how? Paying a carbon tax on everything? Sure.

00:04:08.380 Now, the liberals speak with such a surety that not only is this temperature fluctuation measurable across the entire surface of the globe, think about how crazy that is.

00:04:22.380 But any upward fluctuations in that immeasurable number is somehow caused by your car, your job, the number of kids you have, your steak, and even that malicious, vile monster, your local farmer.

00:04:42.480 You know, the liberals say this and vilify farming with such certainty that they'll insist your farmer reduce his fertilizer use by 30% and perhaps his farmland by 10%, which means your pocketbook will be reduced by hundreds of dollars every year.

00:05:02.480 Not only in the form of the carbon tax I just mentioned, but also food inflation, because if a farmer's yield drops, the price to the consumer goes up.

00:05:13.820 Oh, and the liberals, they'll also make you buy an electric car that is unable to get you even to the grocery store in the winter.

00:05:22.500 But what if the liberals own greenhouse gas emissions?

00:05:26.380 I know that they are not driving electric cars.

00:05:29.900 I filed for access to information on that.

00:05:32.940 But they know all about your greenhouse gas emissions, don't they?

00:05:36.600 And they know how bad they are.

00:05:39.020 Surely they would know about their own greenhouse gas emissions, right?

00:05:43.260 This makes sense.

00:05:44.220 But they don't, and we know it today through a handful of order paper responses that came back in a huge stack this morning.

00:05:52.500 Now, for those of you who don't know what order paper questions are, they're a tool used by opposition parties in our forum of parliamentary democracy to compel the government of the day to provide hard data in an answer to a very specific and narrow question within usually about 30 days.

00:06:14.220 Frankly, it's an antidote for the theatrical nonsense and non-answers of question period.

00:06:20.040 So I'm going to show you three order paper responses to some questions that came back today.

00:06:27.120 The first order paper question was posed to Environment and Climate Change Canada by Conservative MP Gerard Deltel,

00:06:34.340 who asked about whether or not the government had even calculated the greenhouse gas emissions expended to send an absolute army of hundreds of Canadian delegates

00:06:43.900 to Egypt to Egypt, actually to the resort town of Sharm el-Sheikh for last year's annual United Nations Climate Change Summit,

00:06:52.560 something that probably could have been a Zoom call or maybe even an email.

00:06:57.260 Now, I know through other data that the government has already tabulated $622,000 in flights alone for people to attend that thing.

00:07:06.640 And that number is not finalized.

00:07:08.660 In fact, it's expected to grow.

00:07:11.220 But the ministry tasked with lecturing Canadians about the deadliness of their own carbon footprint

00:07:16.320 was forced to respond that they don't even care about their own.

00:07:21.080 They're not even remotely interested enough in their own carbon footprint to bother calculating it.

00:07:25.960 Here's their response to Deltel.

00:07:27.660 The information requested is not systematically tracked in a centralized database.

00:07:32.920 Environment and Climate Change Canada?

00:07:34.140 They don't care about their carbon footprint to stop flying to these places.

00:07:40.020 They only care about your carbon footprint to go to your kid's hockey game.

00:07:44.440 Anyway, let's keep going because there's another very similar order paper response to a somewhat cheeky similar question.

00:07:52.420 Full disclosure, my own MP asked this prickly question through an order paper to the Privy Council office.

00:07:59.820 So those are Justin Trudeau's bureaucrats.

00:08:01.680 Those are the ones who work around him.

00:08:03.360 Garnet Jenis, the Conservative MP for Sherwood Park, Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta, asked for the greenhouse gas calculations for the Prime Minister's travel and work.

00:08:14.920 And wouldn't you know it?

00:08:16.280 It's on page four of the response.

00:08:18.500 Since 2015, these people have not tracked a single one of the Prime Minister's greenhouse gas emissions.

00:08:25.300 But you better not treat yourself to that ribeye steak tonight because Justin Trudeau said it's going to cause climate refugees or something.

00:08:32.220 Now, here's the last order paper response that I wanted to show you.

00:08:36.200 It's been posed by Conservative MP Clifford Small.

00:08:39.980 And the reason I want to show you this is because it demonstrates the absolute insane hypocrisy of the liberals on the subject of greenhouse gas emissions.

00:08:48.040 Because you don't get to have a job in natural gas and our country doesn't get to reap the benefits of exporting natural gas and offsetting Russian natural gas because the liberals are absolutely convinced that natural gas is a bad greenhouse gas.

00:09:04.760 And any country that wants to do business exporting natural gas has to do the climate tabulations that the liberals refuse to do for themselves.

00:09:16.640 So Clifford Small asked with regard to the Prime Minister's claim that there has never been a strong business case to export liquefied natural gas from Canada to Europe.

00:09:25.700 On what specific evidence or analysis, if any, did the Prime Minister base such claims?

00:09:31.920 We are in a situation in the short term where we will do what we can to contribute to the global supply of energy by increasing our capacities in the short term.

00:09:45.720 And explore ways to see if it makes sense to export LNG and if there's a business case for it to export LNG directly to Europe.

00:09:56.100 And that's something that economic conversations are going on between businesses in Canada and in Germany.

00:10:02.740 They never actually answer the question directly, but they do answer it kind of by detailing all the hoops that a company would have to jump through for an export project to go ahead.

00:10:14.440 Which naturally would make it just so expensive to start a project to export natural gas that you'd have to be out of your mind to even propose such a thing.

00:10:25.020 Let me show you.

00:10:26.520 As the Minister of Natural Resources has stated, in order for any liquefied natural gas project to go ahead,

00:10:32.860 they must ensure that upstream emissions associated with gas production and those from liquefaction facilities fit within Canada's emissions reductions targets

00:10:43.260 and demonstrate that exports from these facilities will be used to displace either higher emitting energy sources like coal and unabated natural gas or Russian supplied oil and gas.

00:10:56.360 Proponents should also build energy transition considerations into project design,

00:11:02.180 such as plans to transition facilities to hydrogen production and export.

00:11:07.700 So, these companies have to calculate their carbon footprint before they get permission to build a project that will lower global emissions.

00:11:19.480 Huh.

00:11:20.880 This is like what my friend David Menzies always says about liberal hypocrisy.

00:11:25.580 Rules for thee, but not for me.

00:11:28.540 Well, this is analysis for thee, but not for me as long as me as a liberal.

00:11:33.440 Stay with us more climate craziness with Cosmin Georgia from True North up after the break.

00:11:50.900 So, we learned through order paper responses that the Liberals don't actually track their own greenhouse gas emissions,

00:11:56.620 but they have absolutely no problem vilifying with complete certainty your SUV, your trips to the hockey game,

00:12:03.680 your job, your stake, and your local farmer for global warming,

00:12:08.280 which is actually, when you think about it, probably completely immeasurable anyway.

00:12:13.800 Now, part of this vilification of farming is being played out in Justin Trudeau's war on nitrogen-based fertilizer

00:12:20.040 with the imposition of his so-called voluntary fertilizer targets.

00:12:25.200 Now, my guest today got his hands on a stack of documents from Agri-Food Canada

00:12:30.320 about what the federal government was really planning when it came to fertilizer.

00:12:35.320 So, joining me now is Cosmin Georgia from True North on his expose he's calling the Fertilizer Files.

00:12:42.220 Cosmin, thanks so much for joining me.

00:12:45.500 What, I guess, as a fellow access information journalist, what made you file for these documents?

00:12:50.460 You must have known that they were doing something else or plotting something else behind the scenes.

00:12:57.080 Right. So, this goes back all the way to 2020 when the Liberal government announced their climate plan of that year.

00:13:05.760 And that set these 30% below 2020 levels fertilizer emission reduction targets for the agricultural industry.

00:13:17.660 So, I was interested to see the planning process, the reasoning and science that went behind achieving this 30% target

00:13:28.060 because there's a lot of questions that, well, it looks arbitrary to a lot of people.

00:13:33.740 So, we wanted to investigate where they got these numbers from and what they were saying on the inside.

00:13:41.200 Now, the trove we're talking about, it was about 3,000 pages of access to information documents.

00:13:47.720 And this was actually a preliminary release because the government told me that they were already working on processing these files for another party.

00:13:56.900 Now, I don't know who that other party was, but we were the first to make it public as far as I know.

00:14:04.000 And now, we're still waiting for documents that span the year 2022 to see where this program is in its current state.

00:14:13.440 Cosmin, I think you might have scooped me, but I'm happy that it was True North that did it.

00:14:19.200 Now, you've broken this down into three document dumps because, as you say, there are so many documents.

00:14:25.000 You just, it's so labor-intensive to read through them all and then to weed, and you have to physically read through them all,

00:14:31.840 to weed through sort of the government back and forth to get the nuggets of gold and what they're really plotting.

00:14:38.560 Now, document package one, it sort of blows a hole in the Trudeau narrative that these fertilizer targets are just a voluntary thing that good-hearted farmers who don't care about the size of their yield

00:14:53.220 or their input costs are going to do to help fight climate change.

00:14:57.120 Because if farmers didn't adopt these targets voluntarily, they were floating the idea of a carbon tax-style scheme.

00:15:08.080 Tell us about this.

00:15:10.020 Right.

00:15:10.760 So, what you're talking about, it's a policy discussion paper.

00:15:15.580 Now, these papers are compiled by, you know, high-level staff within ministries.

00:15:20.160 We're talking about deputy ministers giving all kinds of input.

00:15:24.520 And in that document, there's a section called policy options.

00:15:29.340 And under the policy options, Agricultural Canada says we need to give consideration to a regulatory backstop should these voluntary agreements fail.

00:15:42.960 Now, if you recall, when the government was first introducing the federal carbon tax way back, they were calling it, and still do call it, a regulatory backstop.

00:15:53.220 Now, that's just a fancy way of saying, well, if all else fails, here's our policy measure or tax to make sure that our policy objectives get done.

00:16:04.680 So, it's quite stunning that the government internally is seriously considering this.

00:16:09.780 And my question would be, is there a plan for this?

00:16:12.380 Is there a drafted law or potential bill that has been worked on?

00:16:18.720 And I think that's something I will be looking into.

00:16:22.460 But for a while and throughout this whole time they've been introducing these emission reduction targets, the government has maintained that this is voluntary.

00:16:32.460 But internally, they're considering otherwise.

00:16:34.860 And they're telling you, if you say that it is never going to be voluntary, they're accusing you of fake news and misinformation.

00:16:42.260 They do it all the time.

00:16:43.180 They say one thing in public and say another thing behind closed doors, which is why I love access to information.

00:16:48.180 You get down to the heart of the matter.

00:16:49.600 You cut through the spin and the talking points to see what they're really actually scheming.

00:16:54.400 Now, part two of the fertilizer files, I think, is probably the most frightening for non-farmers and terrible for consumers, especially as we are trying to struggle our way through an inflationary crisis.

00:17:08.120 Part two of the fertilizer files documents that the federal government was aware that these fertilizer emission targets would, first of all, like so many of their bad policies, target Western Canada, because we are where you use these fertilizers, and that it would ultimately, if you harm the yield, then the cost of the consumer is driven up in the grocery store.

00:17:35.480 Tell us about this.

00:17:36.260 Right.

00:17:38.260 So, first of all, I'd like to make the point that a 30% reduction in nitrogen emissions in the agricultural industry on a global level is minuscule, if not negligible.

00:17:51.480 It's not going to do anything realistically to the pollution levels.

00:17:57.480 So, it's quite astounding that they're willing to sacrifice yields.

00:18:03.540 And by yields, we mean essentially areas throughout Canada that produce a large amount of agriculture, particularly the prairies in Western Canada, where like over almost 100% of Canada's canola gets produced.

00:18:20.460 All that stuff is threatened by this because if those farmers, which already use low amounts of nitrogen fertilizer because of regional conditions like arid topography and different climate conditions, if they do any sort of reduction, it will impact their yields.

00:18:44.000 There's, there are, it's like a thin hair of the amount of change that they could possibly make.

00:18:50.640 And, and it's going to, and doing a 30% reduction is, is quite astounding because the government insists, well, no, on the one hand, they're telling farmers, we need to become a global competitor in the agricultural industry and to feed the world that is ballooning in population.

00:19:08.640 And on the other hand, and on the other hand, they're saying, and on the other hand, they're saying you have to make these reductions.

00:19:12.600 So, it's absolutely nonsensical.

00:19:14.940 They haven't explained themselves properly to farmers and industry groups, and, and it just makes no sense.

00:19:24.620 It's like these people have never actually met a farmer.

00:19:27.260 It's like they think we're just out there with a garden hose spraying fertilizer all over the place because we need something to do.

00:19:33.160 Farmers are very concerned about input costs, especially as the carbon tax is added to our inputs.

00:19:39.600 We are price takers, not price setters in the world market.

00:19:43.360 So, if you want to maximize your profit, you have to manage your input costs.

00:19:47.900 And one of those input costs is fertilizer.

00:19:50.620 If you use too much fertilizer, it cuts into your bottom line on the other side.

00:19:54.600 Again, I stress, it's like the people at Agri-Food Canada have never talked to a real farmer.

00:19:59.140 But on the flip side, these are export crops, largely.

00:20:04.800 We're talking about canola.

00:20:06.540 Canada's, we developed canola, but we're also the world's largest exporter of canola.

00:20:11.800 Pulses, beans, legumes, these are portable proteins that store well dry, and we export them to the developing world because they're cost affordable for people in the developing world.

00:20:24.540 And this is, not only are we sacrificing Canadian farmers on the altar of climate change, Western Canadian farmers by and large, but we're also sacrificing poor people in the developing world because we are making their food way too expensive.

00:20:38.920 Right, and it's not only canola, we're also talking about wheat and barley grains.

00:20:44.940 For example, I think it was last year I wrote a story about Agriculture Canada labeling Canadian wheat and barley farmers as the worst offenders when it comes to agricultural emissions.

00:21:00.400 And that is quite astounding because Canada has some of the best fertilizer use among the agricultural industry when it comes to limiting emissions and reducing environmental impact compared to other parts of the world like China and India.

00:21:16.740 So it's quite, it must be from a farmer's perspective, you know, quite insulting to see this government label you in such a derogatory fashion, completely overlook the hard work that has been put over the last, you know, couple decades into making our farms more sustainable.

00:21:36.840 And I've spoken to farmers groups and farmers themselves and, you know, they're open to making their, to protecting their environment, you know, Robert Sayke from an agricultural consultancy group told me, you know, the key to producing good soil and reducing emissions is also growing good crops.

00:21:58.640 And Canadian farmers and Canadian farmers are already doing that, especially in Saskatchewan, yet the government has ignored this and is pushing this, as a matter of fact, arbitrary target onto them to achieve some sort of ideological policy agenda so they can check off that box.

00:22:18.200 Yeah, we're stewards of the land. If the land is unhealthy, we, we don't have a job.

00:22:24.120 Like, I mean, it's just so crazy that they think some bureaucrat in Ottawa would do a better job of taking care of our land than we do when generations of, and again, I do, I take it as a personal slight because generations of my family have lived and farmed to this exact same land and now apparently I need Justin Trudeau to tell me how to do it.

00:22:42.800 Now, I, I said number two was kind of shocking, but number three of fertilizer files blows your mind, but it is indicative of the liberals inability to learn from others mistakes.

00:22:55.580 So part three of the fertilizer files notes that Ottawa considered following the same steps that Europe has walked in, that resulted in riots, resulted in mass protests in Holland.

00:23:15.860 Ottawa looked at that and said, yeah, let's do that too. Tell us about this.

00:23:19.420 Right. So throughout these documents, the federal government, Agricultural Canada spoke, you know, boasted about how great the European strategy was.

00:23:32.620 And now we're talking about what's called the Farm to Fork strategy introduced by the European Union, which has a list of like a couple dozen targets that they want to see member states achieve.

00:23:47.100 Among them is, I believe, among them is, I believe, a 20% reduction in fertilizer emissions.

00:23:52.240 Now, this is just one of the targets.

00:23:55.300 There's also a 10% reduction in land use for agriculture within the European Union.

00:24:02.100 Now, as you mentioned, the Dutch farmers protest, the Netherlands government prompted by this push from the EU picked an astounding, I think, 50% reduction in fertilizer emissions.

00:24:16.100 By introducing a farm buyback scheme.

00:24:19.920 So they're essentially buying farms and land from farmers who have been there for generations.

00:24:27.440 And I mean, we're talking about potentially hundreds of years here because this is Europe we're talking about.

00:24:33.460 So they want to take this land, pay them some money so that these farmers stop doing their, you know, ancestral livelihoods.

00:24:43.460 And that, of course, prompted a huge backlash throughout Europe.

00:24:48.780 We saw, you know, tractor convoys.

00:24:50.840 We saw farmers dumping manure in front of government buildings and all sorts of clashes.

00:24:56.580 Yet the Canadian government was looking at this policy and saying, we want to align ourselves with the farm-to-fork strategy.

00:25:06.680 This is a great thing that we need to adopt in Canada.

00:25:10.560 And industry groups, rightfully so, were worried.

00:25:14.060 We see in those documents Fertilizer Canada, which is one of the leading industry groups on this matter, saying, hey, we want to make sure that you guys are not going to pursue this disastrous European approach.

00:25:29.100 Because we're getting a lot of mixed messages where the government is saying, actually, we want to see a fertilizer reduction, not only a fertilizer emission reduction, which is a completely different thing, right?

00:25:42.480 The government has insisted they don't want a fertilizer reduction.

00:25:46.540 But internally, there's mixed messages and conflicting statements from deputy ministers and these sorts of documents.

00:25:55.640 So it's incredible that the government has looked at this scenario unfold and is continuing to barrel ahead with this.

00:26:04.560 And that's why I think it's so important that we get our hands on those 2022 documents, because when I filed that access to information request, I asked particularly about this, whether they have any concerns or whether any statements have been expressed about the social and political consequences of pursuing these.

00:26:24.680 And I would really like to see what they're thinking and whether there's any sort of adjustment or they're reconsidering this approach.

00:26:32.820 Yeah, I'd love to see their paperwork on any, if any, I should say, financial analysis being done on behalf of the consumer, not just the farmer for these sorts of crazy ideas.

00:26:47.540 Because as you note here, they were so committed and they seem to be so committed to focusing on this farm to fork initiative that senior Agriculture Canada officials were already preparing media lines in case they were being put on blast by the public for their bad ideas.

00:27:05.320 So I would like to see if they were saying, so I would like to see if they were saying, I'd love to see if they were saying, but I'm not sure if they're going to be doing that.

00:27:19.320 How that's going to be passed along in the supply chain to the consumer and how it's going to hurt Canadian families who are already struggling to get by with increased food inflation.

00:27:29.700 And I'm sure if they've done that, which I doubt they have, it's going to be buried in another 5,000 pages of documents coming your way.

00:27:37.700 Right. And what I want to stress that this approach was being considered, like the current plan is not based on that 10 and 20% target the European Union is pursuing.

00:27:49.880 Our target is 30% fertilizer emissions reduction below 2020 levels, but Fertilizer Canada released a report in 2020 based on the scenario of what the fertilizer reduction would mean for the industry.

00:28:09.000 And that goes into consumer exports related stuff. It actually claims that such a reduction, if we pursue the European approach, would totally eliminate Canada's canola industry, basically.

00:28:23.560 It would destroy us. And, you know, the way the arithmetic works out in trade and economics, you know, like exports and imports, all those things will have an impact on GDP.

00:28:35.620 And, you know, we'll have ripple effects throughout the economy. So the government needs to tread very carefully on this stuff.

00:28:45.920 But it seems to me that they're just ignoring what people are telling them and what the farmers themselves are telling them.

00:28:55.740 And I want, you know, who knows what the government is planning to introduce with that regulatory backstop stuff.

00:29:02.240 So, you know, we're talking, the government has spoken about mandatory things all the time.

00:29:08.660 We saw it with the COVID-19 pandemic, right? You know, a lot of stuff were voluntary.

00:29:13.840 You know, you can get, it's voluntary to get vaccinated, but here are all these consequences.

00:29:19.080 We also saw the government promising they would never take firearms, but yet here they are today trying to do a buyback scheme on firearms.

00:29:27.760 So we can't trust them for their word. And that's why we have to look deeply and investigate this stuff while we still can.

00:29:35.720 Yeah, exactly. Well, we still can. And they just passed Bill C-11.

00:29:39.740 So while we can even still talk about this sort of stuff.

00:29:42.580 Cosmin, how do people read the fertilizer files? How do they support your work at True North?

00:29:47.680 Because I think you're one of the best investigative journalists in the country.

00:29:50.360 You cover all the beats, you know, federal government access to information documents, school board craziness.

00:29:57.320 How do people support your work? Because I think it's just so, so vital.

00:30:01.260 Thank you, Sheila. So you can find our fertilizer files at tnc.news.

00:30:05.920 I'm pretty sure we still have it featured on our website.

00:30:09.940 So there's three parts to that. You can read it all there.

00:30:12.620 We've put the documents into those stories so you can look for yourselves.

00:30:18.140 You can also follow me on Twitter at CosminDZS.

00:30:21.480 And then I have a substack on more global, you know, European dissident issues at outeredge.substack.com.

00:30:32.020 Cosmin, thanks so much for taking the time to go through these thousands and thousands of pages of documents.

00:30:39.320 From me to you, though, as a farmer, thanks so much for this important work that you're doing.

00:30:45.380 I'm a journalist farmer, but I know there are a lot of farmers who are too busy trying to feed the world to worry about what the government is doing behind their back.

00:30:52.980 So thank you so much for that.

00:30:55.580 Father, thank you, Sheila.

00:30:57.440 Thanks.

00:30:58.200 Stay with us. Your letters to Ezra, read by me, up after the break.

00:31:01.780 Thank you so much for joining us.

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00:31:55.680 Now, today's comments come to us on Ezra's coverage of the latest trial of firebrand Calgary pastor Artur Poloski, who was our very first client of the Fight the Fines project.

00:32:09.480 He got in trouble during the times of COVID for holding an illegal public gathering, which was Artur feeding Calgary's homeless on a bitterly cold day.

00:32:21.980 And since then, it's been run in after run in after run in with the COVID cops.

00:32:26.720 And then, when he went to Coutts, Alberta, to give a supportive sermon to the truckers and activists there who were blocking the border in protest of vaccine mandates and other COVID restrictions,

00:32:40.880 he was charged under the Critical Infrastructure Defense Act, a law that's meant for pipeline terrorism.

00:32:47.640 Well, he was charged under that law.

00:32:49.100 Now, that's not what he's on trial for today.

00:32:51.180 Right now, he's on trial for mischief because the Crown Prosecutor in Lethbridge, Alberta, says that the sermon he gave to those truckers in support of freedom is mischief, a crime against the state.

00:33:07.260 It's outrageous.

00:33:08.480 It's an attempt to criminalize political disagreement with the governing agents of the day.

00:33:17.440 Anyway, that's your God-given right, but it's also a protected right in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

00:33:24.280 I cannot believe that tyrant prosecutor in Lethbridge is proceeding with this, but, I mean, it makes perfect sense.

00:33:36.000 This is a man who was charged with an illegal public gathering for providing food, sustenance, and care to Calgary's forgotten people.

00:33:44.120 So, anyway, Mary2023 writes,

00:33:47.740 Trials, like Pastor Arter's, is not about any crimes being committed, especially when freedom of speech is every Canadian citizen's right.

00:33:55.160 These trials are about political prisoners being made an example of to the rest of Canada.

00:34:00.340 Our courts don't care about real crimes and real justice. 0.90

00:34:03.080 No, their purpose has become to follow the dictates of a tyrant in Parliament who is a servant to the cabal.

00:34:10.040 Now, I don't think I'm speaking out of turn when I tell you about a phone call that I literally just had with Ezra.

00:34:16.360 And he said when he got to the courthouse in Lethbridge today that there were like 30 people gathered on the steps of the courthouse and they were there protesting because an accused child sex offender has either been given a lenient sentence or granted bail.

00:34:37.900 And as we know, it's very difficult to get bail if you're somebody like Tamara Leach or Jeremy McKenzie, who's a critic of Justin Trudeau.

00:34:47.560 It's pretty easy to get bail for all sorts of other things, including murder or child sex offenses.

00:34:52.960 And as I said, it was just sort of a perfect synopsis of the problem with the Canadian legal system.

00:35:02.700 But particularly here in Alberta, where we're short, 50 crown prosecutors and real court cases with real victims, other than the feelings of some politicians, are under threat of being tossed out because they're going over the statutory limit for a court case to make it to trial.

00:35:23.600 And Ezra said it was perfect that you have these people who are either accused of or have committed real crimes against vulnerable little people, people we should as a society protect.

00:35:35.820 And Ezra's there because an out-of-control crown is wasting two days worth of already stretched thin prosecutorial resources on a pastor who said some things to some truckers that the political powerful people might disagree with.

00:35:55.320 It's just shocking.

00:35:56.560 Now, thank goodness Pastor Art has his really great lawyers, Sarah Miller and Chad Haggerty, working overtime to fight this because it's not just about Pastor Art's freedom of speech because if they can do this to Pastor Art, they'll do it to the rest of us.

00:36:11.600 And so not only thanks to Sarah Miller and Chad Haggerty for their hard work, but thank you to all of you who pitch in at SaveArcher.com.

00:36:20.920 That's Archer's legal fund.

00:36:22.660 And you can make a tax-deductible donation there to help him navigate his legal challenges.

00:36:31.740 He's still got so many ahead of him.

00:36:33.980 Let's keep going.

00:36:35.280 Raw Data writes,

00:36:36.320 Persecution directed against an individual or an identifiable group is a crime against humanity.

00:36:41.740 Multiple prosecution attempts against Pastor Artur have resulted in case dismissed.

00:36:46.900 Using Canadian taxpayer money to repeatedly attempt to prosecute Pastor Artur is persecution.

00:36:51.360 There's a statute of limitations for prosecuting crimes against humanity.

00:36:55.140 Mr. Kenny may have to come out of an old-age care home to stand trial at Nuremberg, too.

00:37:00.640 Yeah, I think that sounds a lot like wishful thinking.

00:37:04.560 But yeah, I mean, I don't think anybody would argue, like any reasonable sane person would argue, that what's happening to Pastor Art is not persecution.

00:37:13.140 They are withdrawing, not dismissing, but they're withdrawing charges before they get a judgment because they don't want the judgment against them because they know it's not going to be against Pastor Art.

00:37:30.480 He keeps winning these things or having his charges withdrawn.

00:37:33.300 The only one that he actually lost was overturned on appeal.

00:37:38.860 So all that is to say, I'm not all that convinced that anybody involved in any of this persecution is ever going to be held accountable.

00:37:51.840 And at this point, I think the best we can hope for is that they just go away forever.

00:37:56.240 Wouldn't that be great?

00:37:58.820 M-U-4-S-S. 1.00

00:38:01.400 What is this?

00:38:02.780 Moo Assassin? 0.99

00:38:04.380 Did I get that right?

00:38:05.860 I don't know.

00:38:06.360 I'm not much for internet speak.

00:38:07.920 Anyway, Rebel News always gets an automatic like from me.

00:38:11.700 My reason has nothing to do with political affiliations either, and it's mainly because Rebel News doesn't impose their views on the viewer.

00:38:18.620 This is real news.

00:38:20.440 Thank you for all your hard work.

00:38:21.980 Well, thanks so much.

00:38:23.640 Well, we try to keep an open mind here at Rebel News, and I think, and I'm always honest with my viewer.

00:38:31.080 I'm a conservative.

00:38:32.280 I don't think that should shock anybody.

00:38:33.760 So I do look at the world through a very specific worldview.

00:38:39.700 But I think as long as I let you, the viewer, know that that's the lens through which I see the world around me, you can make up your own mind.

00:38:48.220 My problem with the CBC and the mainstream media outlets is that they are just as biased as me because I will admit my bias.

00:38:56.440 I'm conservative.

00:38:57.180 Everybody knows that.

00:38:58.380 They're just as biased as me.

00:38:59.920 They just aren't truthful about it, which is dishonest to the viewer and an insult to the viewer, by the way, because I think you know they're liberals too.

00:39:13.280 But second, I don't want to have to pay for their liberal bias.

00:39:18.520 You want to pay for Rebel News?

00:39:19.700 That's great.

00:39:20.820 If you don't, that's your choice.

00:39:22.420 I wish you would.

00:39:23.460 But it's also your choice.

00:39:24.500 We don't have a choice with the CBC, and we no longer have a choice with the mainstream media, either because they live and breathe on Justin Trudeau's constant bailouts.

00:39:35.140 And boy, it's sure reflected in their coverage of him, isn't it?

00:39:38.920 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:39:40.640 Thank you so much for tuning in and bearing with me as I fill in for Ezra Levant.

00:39:44.760 I think Ezra is back in the big show on Monday.

00:39:49.300 And as Ezra always says, keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - February 04, 2023

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