Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ What does the Canadian flag represent to you in 2022？

00:00:00.000 Tonight, is the Canadian flag a symbol of pride or of shame?

00:00:20.320 It's Wednesday, June 15th, 2022.

00:00:23.680 I'm David Menzies, and this is the Ezra Levent Show.

00:00:30.000 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:00:42.000 Well, folks, with Dominion Day just a couple of weeks away, the question arises,

00:00:47.600 what does the Canadian flag represent to you in 2022?

00:00:52.700 Is the Maple Leaf something to take pride in?

00:00:55.500 Because it seems in certain circles, the Canadian flag is deemed to be a symbol of colonialism and or imperialism.

00:01:04.900 Or maybe our flag is a symbol that is now too closely linked with the great unwashed masses 0.95

00:01:11.720 who make up the various freedom convoys.

00:01:14.420 And as we all know by now, for the rank-and-file folks who comprise the loony left,

00:01:21.140 freedom can have, you know, negative connotations.

00:01:26.080 Now, if you think I'm exaggerating, I will now present the proverbial proof in the pudding.

00:01:32.220 Consider what happened recently in Newmarket, Ontario, a town just north of Toronto.

00:01:37.720 Donna Steffkos owns a SUV that is draped with several flags.

00:01:44.680 Some flags state, We the Fringe.

00:01:47.280 And there are Canadian flags on her Jeep, too.

00:01:50.680 She works at the Kortha Dairy Shop on Davis Drive.

00:01:54.320 By the way, if you happen to be in the Newmarket area and you are craving for ice cream or a milkshake,

00:02:00.840 I can think of no better place for those marvellous edibles than Kortha Dairy.

00:02:06.980 Regardless, somebody took exception to those flags on Donna's vehicle.

00:02:12.960 And this man walked into the shop and complained vociferously.

00:02:18.840 The flags were offensive to him.

00:02:21.740 Naturally, the state-funded Newmarket-era newspaper published fake news pertaining to what those flags were.

00:02:28.440 The era noted the flag stated, F. Trudeau.

00:02:33.000 That was false.

00:02:34.360 But, hey, isn't that par for the course for a Torstar-owned newspaper slash birdcage liner?

00:02:41.040 In any event, based on one solitary complaint from somebody who apparently is unable to read basic English,

00:02:51.540 the executives running Kortha Dairy bent the knee?

00:02:55.120 Really? Donna was ordered to remove the flags, as in all of the flags on her truck.

00:03:01.080 Yes, including those Canadian flags.

00:03:04.800 Well, if the executives at Kortha Dairy thought this would get their company out of the 24-hour news cycle,

00:03:13.100 they were dead wrong.

00:03:14.060 Because, you see, last Saturday, a few hundred protesters descended upon the shop to voice their outrage regarding the ultimatum Donna had received.

00:03:24.680 Now, we knew there was no way in hell that these demonstrators or Donna would get a fair shake from the mainstream media.

00:03:32.140 So, my camerawoman Olivia and I also headed up to Newmarket on that day to chronicle the event.

00:03:39.220 Here, check out an excerpt of our report.

00:03:41.680 As the saying goes, I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream.

00:03:46.500 But forget about that.

00:03:47.640 It seems that some people these days are screaming for censorship.

00:03:52.840 And that's the crux of the matter of this story.

00:03:56.640 I'm in front of the Kortha Dairy store.

00:03:59.540 It's a fantastic ice cream shop.

00:04:01.340 But, you see, what happened recently is the Newmarket era, yes, that's part of the state-funded mainstream media,

00:04:10.120 reported that an employee here had her vehicle festooned with F. Trudeau flags.

00:04:18.980 Actually, that wasn't the case.

00:04:20.360 There was not a single F. Trudeau flag on her vehicle.

00:04:23.680 And even if there was, I don't think there's any kind of rule against profanity.

00:04:27.360 If that were the case, half the rap songs would have to be deleted from the radio.

00:04:32.140 Certainly, the flags look like the infamous F. Trudeau flags.

00:04:36.840 But it says, we the fringe.

00:04:39.100 And you're quoting basically how the liberal government has described the Freedom Convoy people

00:04:47.860 in terms of their ongoing demonization and vilification of this movement.

00:04:53.760 So, what's the deal here?

00:04:56.120 Why did they think that you were displaying F. Trudeau flags in the first place?

00:05:02.480 Well, in my opinion, I think the person had nothing better to do with their time.

00:05:06.960 It was a gloomy, rainy day.

00:05:08.640 The flags were down.

00:05:11.300 Like I said, my vehicle has been parked over there at my place of employment,

00:05:16.620 which does not have anything to do with me and my personal stuff.

00:05:22.760 Somebody just couldn't read.

00:05:24.400 It almost comes down to that.

00:05:25.700 We have somebody in our community that hates our country.

00:05:28.480 Couldn't take two seconds to even walk over and lift it up.

00:05:31.560 I would not be disgraced if anybody touched my flag to look at it.

00:05:34.840 The store received one complaint, singular, one complaint, that this was offside.

00:05:41.120 And she was ordered to remove the We the Fringe flags. 0.93

00:05:45.240 This is my own opinion.

00:05:46.360 This has nothing to do with Cortha Dairy.

00:05:48.340 The product is great.

00:05:49.460 It is Canadian run.

00:05:50.880 My views do not reflect anything to do with the company.

00:05:54.660 That one customer clearly should have done their homework.

00:05:58.680 And they have ruined many people's lives by one comment that blasted up.

00:06:04.260 The store was being called and harassed on a daily basis and still is.

00:06:09.280 And there are a lot of freedom fighters out there.

00:06:11.520 There are so many people that love our country that have been calling in support as well.

00:06:15.940 She was ordered to remove even the Canadian flags.

00:06:20.180 I feel that this has been an unjust and discrimination to our Canadian flag.

00:06:27.920 It's been a rough few days, all because somebody wanted to post fake news.

00:06:33.200 If you're showing pride in your country by flying a Canadian flag, this is offside somehow?

00:06:39.520 You said it right there.

00:06:41.360 It has become sad.

00:06:43.180 The cancel culture is real.

00:06:44.880 People can flip things and turn things all around.

00:06:48.160 It is actually despicable.

00:06:49.180 Can you imagine, folks, that we, the fringe flags, are offensive to those who are presumably

00:06:56.780 Justin Trudeau supporters?

00:06:59.520 I mean, wait a minute.

00:07:00.920 That fringe word emanates from the lips of the prime minister himself.

00:07:05.980 Check out this footage from late January.

00:07:09.200 We know the way through this pandemic is by getting everyone vaccinated.

00:07:17.720 And the overwhelming majority, close to 90% of Canadians have done exactly that.

00:07:25.860 The small fringe minority of people who are on their way to Ottawa or who are holding unacceptable views that they're expressing.

00:07:38.820 Yeah, so fringe, as in, you know, lunatic fringe, was essentially a slur directed toward the truckers and their allies.

00:07:48.920 This was the first step by the Trudeau liberals in terms of vilifying and demonizing the Freedom Convoy.

00:07:56.820 So when it came to that progressive nut bar who threw a temper tantrum when he saw Donna's vehicle at the New Market Kawartha dairy shop, what, pray tell, was the issue?

00:08:09.520 Donna was simply identifying herself as a member of that despicable fringe minority, right? 1.00

00:08:16.840 The complainant had no reason to be triggered, really.

00:08:21.980 But as you also saw in the video clip, the Kawartha dairy VP, Dana Summerfield, also ordered Donna to remove the Canadian flags from her vehicle.

00:08:34.600 Huh?

00:08:34.920 Oh, by the way, just to let you know, while Canadian flags were banned from the personal vehicles of Kawartha dairy employees, no such ban was in place for, say, pride flags or Black Lives Matter flags or Ukrainian flags.

00:08:52.260 Yes, this is beyond parody, folks, but it is also a telltale example of what happens when a corporation essentially melts like, well, ice cream on a hot summer day.

00:09:07.400 Because what Kawartha dairy should have said to that hysterical complainer was simply this.

00:09:13.400 Your disdain for our employees' flags is duly noted.

00:09:18.200 And while we welcome your patronage, there are several other stores in New Market that can fulfill your dairy needs.

00:09:26.040 Be thanking you.

00:09:27.840 In any event, yesterday, I did touch base with Donna.

00:09:32.100 And I have an update to report regarding Flaggate, if we can call it that.

00:09:36.500 Namely, Kawartha dairy VP, Summerfield, and CEO Brian Kerr, reversed the Canadian flag ban.

00:09:45.500 Wow!

00:09:46.380 It's like the Christmas miracle in June.

00:09:49.420 Imagine that.

00:09:50.520 The Canadian flag can be displayed at Kawartha dairy yet again.

00:09:55.760 Excellent.

00:09:56.740 By the way, when Donna asked Dana why the Maple Leaf was banned in the first place,

00:10:02.180 Dana reportedly said that in the past two years, the Canadian flag has become tainted.

00:10:10.920 Tainted.

00:10:12.360 Like the Maple Leaf is akin to, oh, I don't know, a swastika?

00:10:18.220 Mein Gott!

00:10:19.760 Also, Donna was told that the We the Fringe flags remain under the ban.

00:10:26.220 Why?

00:10:26.700 Because given the colors and the font style, some passers-by might think that we the fringe flags

00:10:35.320 are actually F-Trudeau flags.

00:10:39.060 What the hell? 0.98

00:10:40.740 If that's the case, maybe these delusional people need to see an optometrist or a psychiatrist 0.98

00:10:48.640 or both.

00:10:50.280 In any event, is this where we are when it comes to bending the knee to the zealots who

00:10:56.820 comprise the cancel culture mob?

00:10:59.840 That now we must say sorry and ban things based on imaginary offensive images.

00:11:08.100 Are we actually now acquiescing to those who are delusional?

00:11:14.120 Well, yes, apparently so.

00:11:15.840 By the way, I reached out to both Ms. Summerfield and Mr. Kerr to get their side of the story.

00:11:22.660 I posed five questions so that I could try to make sense of their warped logic regarding

00:11:29.320 the flag policy at Kawartha Dairy Shops.

00:11:32.560 Here are the questions I sent to them verbatim.

00:11:36.000 Number one, I am trying to understand why Donna was ordered to remove Canadian flags from

00:11:41.860 her vehicle.

00:11:42.380 Well, she remarked that you told her that the Canadian flag in the last two years has

00:11:47.900 become tainted.

00:11:49.500 Can you explain what you meant by this remark?

00:11:53.460 Two, I understand that the We the Fringe flags are still under the ban.

00:11:58.780 Donna remarked that you told her that some people might think those flags state F-Trudeau.

00:12:04.880 But clearly, Donna's flags do not state this phrase.

00:12:09.920 It seems odd to me that a flag would be banned on the basis that people might think they are

00:12:17.060 reading something that simply does not exist.

00:12:19.720 Again, can you explain your rationale for this decision?

00:12:24.580 Three, when this flag flap began, you had issued a statement that read as follows.

00:12:30.900 Quote, although there was no profanity on the flags, we have spoken to the employee who

00:12:37.860 has removed the flags from their vehicle.

00:12:40.660 Kawartha Dairy prides ourselves on being an inclusive company who treats everyone like

00:12:46.220 family and respects the personal opinions of our employees and our customers.

00:12:51.740 End quote.

00:12:52.180 Quote, the part of the statement that refers to inclusivity does not make sense to me, given

00:12:58.380 that banning flags is actually an exclusionary act.

00:13:02.720 Can you explain how banning something is indeed an act of inclusion?

00:13:07.440 Four, as I understand things, this whole controversy erupted after just one customer complained about

00:13:14.920 something that did not exist, namely the F-Trudeau flag.

00:13:18.820 In hindsight, do you think that Kawartha Dairy bending the knee to this individual regarding

00:13:25.400 an imaginary problem was a good idea?

00:13:29.660 Why did your company simply point out that the customer was wrong on what he believed to

00:13:36.480 be true and simply move on?

00:13:39.460 And five, Donna mentioned that both you and Mr. Kerr verbally apologized to her for the flag

00:13:46.060 ordeal.

00:13:46.480 Well, is this indeed correct?

00:13:49.940 Well, folks, alas, at time of broadcast, neither executive had gotten back to me.

00:13:55.120 But is that surprising, really?

00:13:57.520 As these banana splits continue to ban and unban and re-ban certain flags on almost a daily basis,

00:14:05.440 I don't think Somerville and Kerr know what to say or know what to do anymore.

00:14:10.480 But one thing is certain, it was prudent to allow the Canadian flag back on Donna's vehicle, 0.58

00:14:17.780 because had they not done so, and worse, had these cowards disciplined Donna for flying

00:14:24.860 the Maple Leaf, then me thinks we're talking a major lawsuit here.

00:14:29.900 Oh, by the way, for an added slice of insanity, just consider the fact that Kwartha Dairy actually

00:14:37.500 uses a Maple Leaf on their packaging.

00:14:41.180 Amazing.

00:14:42.460 But sadly, Canadian flag delusional syndrome is spreading these days, folks.

00:14:47.660 Case in point, the Sunderland Public School in Sunderland, Ontario, recently sent home a permission

00:14:55.540 slip to parents, a permission slip that left many parents absolutely baffled.

00:15:02.540 This was not a permission slip regarding students going on a field trip or taking part in a school

00:15:08.220 dance. Rather, the local Lions Club in Sunderland thought it would be a nice gesture to give the

00:15:14.860 grade one students a Canadian flag. Alas, these days, no good deed goes unpunished, it would seem,

00:15:23.340 because in advance of the free flags being handed out, the school sent out letters to parents

00:15:29.660 to see if it was, you know, okay to distribute this material to the youngsters.

00:15:37.020 You know, I'm not making this up. Were the Lions handing out Canadian flags or pornography?

00:15:45.180 Or is our red and white symbol tantamount to porn in certain circles these days?

00:15:51.260 Well, here's what Principal Jennifer Fisher said in her bizarre letter to parents, quote,

00:15:56.780 On June 28th, our grade one students will have the opportunity to meet with a member of the

00:16:03.180 Sunderland Lions Club to learn a little about the history of Canada and why we celebrate Canada Day.

00:16:10.780 Students will also have the opportunity to receive a Canadian flag from the Sunderland Lions Club.

00:16:17.100 If you prefer that your child does not receive a Canadian flag, please return the bottom portion

00:16:25.020 of this letter to the school prior to June 28th. If you do not return the form, your child will receive

00:16:33.020 a flag, end quote. Principal Fisher then noted to parents that if they had, quote,

00:16:38.940 quote, concerns about the presentation or the flag, end quote, then they could contact their child's

00:16:47.020 teacher or the office. Now, I reached out to Principal Fisher but was told she was in a meeting.

00:16:54.220 But check out my brief conversation with the nice receptionist at Sunderland School.

00:17:01.420 It looks like the principal's letter really stirred up a hornet's nest.

00:17:10.140 Sunderland Public School.

00:17:11.180 Yes, good morning. Can I speak to Jennifer Fisher, please?

00:17:15.420 She's in a meeting at the moment. Can I take a message?

00:17:18.060 Oh, sure. My name is David Menzies and I'm with Rebel News in Toronto.

00:17:25.020 And I'm just calling her about this Canada flag permission form.

00:17:29.580 Oh, okay. You can call the board office in regards to it.

00:17:33.980 Oh, was this a board decision?

00:17:36.220 Well, no. It was from her but she's not taking the call.

00:17:40.140 Oh, that's interesting. Why would she put out a permission form but I would have to direct

00:17:46.220 my calls to the board that had nothing to do with this?

00:17:50.380 I don't know. I've just been getting a lot of calls and a lot of angry people and yelling at me and...

00:17:56.700 Oh, no. I'm not going to yell at you, ma'am.

00:17:58.060 No, no. I know. I can already tell you're not going to yell because you're very calm.

00:18:02.860 But believe me, the amount of calls that I have taken and the amount of angry citizens that are out there

00:18:08.700 and the yelling and the swearing that I'm hearing from the other end is...

00:18:13.420 I just am tired of taking them, so I'm just going to direct them to the board office now.

00:18:17.500 You know what? I'm very sorry you're getting verbally abused. I know it's not your decision, so...

00:18:21.660 No. No, I hadn't. That's the thing. I had nothing to do with it.

00:18:25.660 Do you know why the permission is being asked in the first place? I mean...

00:18:30.700 I do not understand that. I don't.

00:18:32.540 Okay, yeah. And so, I guess because of the amount of angry people, this is why Ms. Fisher isn't taking calls on this issue, or...?

00:18:42.140 I'm going to assume that's the reason why. So, like I said, she's also said you can voice your concerns at our website, centralnps.dbsb.ca.

00:18:54.220 Wow. You know, I suspect Principal Fisher is not in a meeting, but rather she's curled up in the fetal position in the staff lounge these days.

00:19:05.660 Nevertheless, I did reach out to the Durham District School Board, and according to spokeswoman Rachel Matheson,

00:19:12.780 the ostensible policy reason for the permission slip was to essentially be environmentally friendly and to avoid offending indigenous people?

00:19:26.540 Says Matheson, quote,

00:19:28.620 Schools don't often distribute Canadian flags, and we wanted to ensure that we weren't wasteful in terms of families already having one or not intending to make use of them.

00:19:41.140 We also recognize that for some indigenous families, the Canadian flag may represent something else in terms of their relationship,

00:19:51.220 and that we are being respectful of their rights as we support reconciliation efforts.

00:19:58.660 The letter home was simply designed to provide choice to students and families in the class about receiving the flag

00:20:06.740 after a presentation from a member of the Lions Club about why we celebrate Canada Day

00:20:13.780 and was in no way intended to diminish the importance of our national flag or cause harm, end quote.

00:20:22.260 Wow. You know, I never thought I'd see this, folks.

00:20:26.020 This idea of the Canadian flag in Canada in 2022, that it could somehow be deemed both environmentally unfriendly and politically incorrect.

00:20:38.540 And you know something?

00:20:39.800 I wonder if the Durham District School Board sends out permission slips if schools are staging, you know, drag queen story times.

00:20:49.780 Nah, what am I thinking?

00:20:52.420 That might come across as, oh, I don't know, being homophobic or transphobic or biphobic or some sort of phobia. 0.84

00:20:59.860 So, hey, kids, sit right back and check out a striptease show courtesy of a fake female. 1.00

00:21:06.920 Nothing wrong about that.

00:21:08.560 And, hey, maybe Kortha Derry would like to cater such events. 0.96

00:21:13.200 And in the meantime, let's shield the kids' precious eyes from that vulgar red and white piece of fabric known as the flag of Canada.

00:21:25.800 Folks, are we all collectively trapped in a nightmare right now?

00:21:30.960 Is the alarm bell going to ring any second now?

00:21:34.180 And we're all going to finally wake up and realize that the events of recent weeks are akin to season nine of Dallas?

00:21:42.640 You know, that it was all a bad dream, this whole business of Bobby dying in season eight.

00:21:48.180 Or are we indeed awake?

00:21:50.400 And this is indeed the new perverse reality that we are living in.

00:21:55.320 That Canadian flags are somehow offensive to some people, maybe, perhaps.

00:22:04.260 And another thing, what Miss Somerville allegedly said about the Canadian flag being tainted these days, isn't the polar opposite the truth?

00:22:15.060 At other trucker protests and at other freedom rallies the world over, from the United States to India and Australia,

00:22:23.680 the Canadian flag is proudly on display.

00:22:27.820 It's an acknowledgment of how Canadian truckers and their supporters stood up when their democratic rights were being threatened.

00:22:37.620 Yet here in our great dominion, the maple leaf is deemed to be something that we need to apologize for, that we need to keep in the closet.

00:22:48.720 Just think of the logic process at play here.

00:22:52.020 The Canadian flag represents freedom, yet for the progressives that champion big government and big tech and big lockdowns, freedom is the new F word?

00:23:06.160 I'll be in Canada, eh?

00:23:11.660 Pity.

00:23:12.380 Don't know about you, folks, but it seems that life in Canada under the Justin Jagmeet regime is increasingly resembling a South Park episode.

00:23:24.080 What a pity indeed.

00:23:26.080 Well, folks, unfortunately, not a day goes by in which someone or something isn't eradicated by the social justice warriors who make up team cancel culture.

00:23:50.600 Perhaps it's a broadcaster who allegedly said something offensive.

00:23:56.060 Maybe it's a company getting boycotted for God knows what.

00:24:00.180 But for the progressives and the Marxists out there, it's their way or the highway.

00:24:06.260 And the question arises, what can be done?

00:24:09.600 And to answer this question and other queries, I'm joined now by Nicky Bellew, who, along with Wayne Allen Root, wrote the great patriot protest boycott book subtitled

00:24:23.580 The Priceless List for Conservatives, Christians, Patriots and 80-plus million Trump warriors to cancel, cancel culture and save America.

00:24:34.900 Hey, welcome to the Ezra Levin Show, Nicky.

00:24:36.940 Hey, it's great to be here, brother David.

00:24:41.280 Thanks for having me on.

00:24:42.400 It's a pleasure.

00:24:43.200 So, Nicky, as I mentioned, cancel culture is everywhere these days.

00:24:46.860 It's very depressing.

00:24:48.140 Heck, even the Canadian flag is being canceled in certain circles in Canada, as I mentioned in my monologue.

00:24:56.600 But first and foremost, what indeed can be done to fight back against this insidious trend?

00:25:03.920 Well, David, I got to tell you, for me, I think there's a lot that can be done to fight back.

00:25:10.620 We live right now in what is still the freest, greatest society on Earth.

00:25:18.800 Canada, the United States, the free West still offer greater freedom for everybody than any other place on Earth.

00:25:25.320 And for that, I'm very, very grateful.

00:25:27.640 And even though the forces of totalitarianism have gained a foothold, they have not yet managed to completely eradicate freedom.

00:25:35.660 And that gives me a ton of hope and a ton of belief in what we can do.

00:25:39.960 Now, Wayne Allen Root and I decided to write this book, The Great Patriot Protest and Boycott book, because we believe that we can use some of the tactics of the Alinskyite left against him.

00:25:52.180 If you've heard of Saul Alinsky and his book, Rules for Radicals, you know that when they were in the fringes of society, they used a very specific series of tactics and strategies in order to push back against bourgeois society, put people back on their heels.

00:26:12.940 And they used that to get themselves into power.

00:26:16.440 And hey, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

00:26:18.700 So we've done the same thing.

00:26:19.820 We put together this incredible book, which is a list of 116 companies that, generally speaking, are capitalistic companies, but they've been browbeaten by the left into adopting their mantras and their model of the world wholesale.

00:26:34.620 So this book essentially is a call to polite, persistent activism, where people that really are the base customers of these organizations can go up to them and say, hey, you're doing X, Y, and Z that I disapprove of.

00:26:51.960 For example, you're trying to sexualize five-year-old children, which I disapprove of.

00:26:55.520 So I'm no longer going to be giving my business to you.

00:26:58.040 Thank you.

00:26:58.760 Goodbye.

00:26:59.040 And this book's been very powerful.

00:27:01.060 And I got to tell you, I don't know if Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida actually read this book, but he certainly was inspired by the spirit embodied in the book because he took a page out of what we're doing.

00:27:12.080 And when Disney decided to start putting their family programming toward sexualization for five to eight-year-old children, they took away Disney's tax-exempt status, which immediately cost Disney over a billion dollars a year.

00:27:26.040 And that cost Disney over $63 billion in market capitalization.

00:27:31.940 So other companies took notice in the United States, and right now their advisors are telling them, stop being political, stop jumping into issues that are controversial.

00:27:42.820 And many companies that were being kowtowed by the left are no longer going down that path.

00:27:48.700 So it's a small victory, but it is a victory.

00:27:50.600 And for that, I'm very grateful.

00:27:52.660 And, you know, Nikki, I mean, if we can just go back a little bit about why this is a thing with corporations these days, why they are bending their knee to basically a lunatic fringe.

00:28:06.100 And you mentioned Disney.

00:28:07.760 Disney is a great example.

00:28:09.860 We had basically those in the radical transgender community demanding that Disney no longer refer to their guests, their paying customers, that is, as ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.

00:28:23.540 Now it's friends, you know, so we don't misgender anyone.

00:28:27.840 And what I understand is that people for that and other things, you know, that Disney has promoted recently, they're staying away from the park and droves.

00:28:40.940 You mentioned the DeSantis tax break issue.

00:28:44.760 And what I'm just trying to get to the bottom of here, Nikki, is why?

00:28:48.740 Why is it that a corporation would acquiesce to these people?

00:28:53.900 My theory, it's two-pronged.

00:28:55.940 One, they figure if we agree to their insane demands, they'll leave us alone and go on to company ABC and make life difficult for them.

00:29:08.020 And B, many of the executives, the younger executives, that is, they've been indoctrinated.

00:29:14.280 They've gone through school. 0.73

00:29:16.060 They actually believe in this nonsense.

00:29:19.120 Have I got the right picture on what's going on, Nikki?

00:29:22.540 Well, definitely the first part, I 100% agree with you.

00:29:26.480 They're just scared.

00:29:27.540 They're plain afraid of being targeted by folks.

00:29:31.600 They don't believe in standing up for themselves.

00:29:33.920 And that's just a shame because, you know, a lot of corporations go out there and they give everybody this great big song and dance that they stand for things, that they believe in things, and it doesn't matter if it costs them money.

00:29:44.260 Well, that's really not true because they're bending the knee to people because they're afraid.

00:29:49.840 They're not standing up for the values that they truly, maybe privately even believe in, but they think they need to stand up for these values that they don't really buy into.

00:29:58.420 Now, yeah, there are a lot of younger executives that buy into some of this woke ideology, but I believe that number isn't as big as you think.

00:30:07.580 So I'll give you an example of what happened at Netflix.

00:30:10.380 Netflix basically said to their employees that we're going to be bringing in content from conservative and traditional voices.

00:30:18.880 And a whole bunch of their employees just were up in arms and saying, oh, my God, you can't do this.

00:30:23.100 You can't do this.

00:30:23.700 I'm going to stop working here.

00:30:25.480 Well, the head of content at Netflix sent out a very famous internal memo and said, hey, I appreciate.

00:30:32.860 Thank you for sharing your views, and Netflix is committed to a diversity of voices in the content that we create.

00:30:39.520 And if you can't abide by that, maybe this isn't the place for you to work any longer.

00:30:48.660 And when he said that, Netflix, which had been losing subscribers at an alarming rate because of their insane commitment to some crazy programming,

00:30:59.060 they had a program that was sexualizing 11-year-old girls. 1.00

00:31:02.100 That is a terrible idea, a terrible idea.

00:31:07.220 You don't want to do this.

00:31:08.880 This puts young girls at risk in a huge, huge way.

00:31:12.320 We can't have that. 0.99

00:31:13.560 And now it seems like they found their cojones and their ovaries if they're female. 1.00

00:31:21.920 Cajones for the men, ovaries for the females. 0.99

00:31:23.800 And they've gone in there and said, nope, no more of that.

00:31:26.780 And that has caused exactly what?

00:31:30.440 Nothing.

00:31:30.860 The employees that were up in arms have either resigned or they've shut up because they know that the corporation isn't really going to put up with this.

00:31:39.540 And that's really one of the reasons we wrote this book is we want to encourage corporations to stay out of controversial issues,

00:31:47.240 to stop putting their finger on the scale for either side.

00:31:51.100 But you're here to be in business.

00:31:52.780 You're not here to support a particular ideology.

00:31:55.980 Now, I appreciate that there are certain universal values that are good for every corporation to be in favor of.

00:32:02.860 Motherhood, apple pie, clean air, clean water. 0.85

00:32:06.620 I'm 100% on board with all those things because we can all agree on those.

00:32:10.840 But there are many, many things that they're getting involved in that we don't all agree on.

00:32:17.100 And in fact, the vast majority of their customer base is diametrically opposed to.

00:32:22.000 So, look, I have a ton of sympathy for somebody who's going through gender confusion.

00:32:26.340 One of my best friend's brother decided, you know, that he was not decided.

00:32:34.000 That's not the right word to use.

00:32:35.040 Let me just say this properly.

00:32:36.120 Was confused about who he was, was confused about his sexual identity, his gender identity.

00:32:40.780 And he transitioned into a woman.

00:32:42.400 He had the surgeries.

00:32:43.280 He did all that.

00:32:44.340 And after living as a woman for 10 years, took his own life, took her own life. 0.96

00:32:49.400 You know, and this was a good person.

00:32:52.460 I knew this person.

00:32:53.460 You know what I mean?

00:32:54.480 Robert, when I met, met the person and Julia later.

00:32:57.420 And this confusion caused all kinds of angst for this individual.

00:33:02.160 I got a ton of sympathy for this individual.

00:33:04.600 I got a ton of sympathy for my friend and his family.

00:33:08.140 And, you know, the, his mother and father to see their own child commit suicide.

00:33:13.300 That's absolutely awful.

00:33:14.820 You know, and we need to, as a society, deal with people who are genuinely dealing with

00:33:19.460 these types of issues, with sensitivity, with compassion, with plenty of space to make

00:33:25.280 up their own mind in their own way.

00:33:26.900 What we don't need is some nut bar activist forcing a particular view down people's throats. 1.00

00:33:34.380 So these folks are worse than the people that said, no, no, no, this, this is not a thing

00:33:38.960 at all, because those people that had no sensitivity for the real issues some people are going

00:33:43.340 through. These people have no sensitivity or nuance for the fact that, that young people

00:33:48.600 that are questioning their identity, questioning their gender need to be given all the room in the

00:33:54.200 world to come to their own decision, their own understanding and pushing them in one way or

00:34:00.300 another is terrible. And there's hundreds, if not hundreds of thousands of stories, well,

00:34:05.920 maybe not hundreds of thousands, but hundreds, thousands of stories of teenagers who felt pushed

00:34:10.920 in a particular direction by activists to make a decision to go on puberty blockers, to have

00:34:15.780 gender reassignment surgery, who now regret it. And I got to tell you, that's not right. 1.00

00:34:21.460 You've got to give space for people, especially teenagers, to be able to understand that they're

00:34:26.900 going through a time of confusion being a teenager period. And if this issue is particularly

00:34:31.380 an issue that they're dealing with, they need to be dealt with with sensitivity. What they don't

00:34:35.800 need is these crazy left wing activists coming down and forcing them to do something that they'll 0.98

00:34:40.980 regret later. And that we all got to take a stand against that. We all got to say is wrong. It

00:34:46.420 shouldn't happen. And we definitely, definitely need to say that, hey, sexualizing children, 1.00

00:34:52.860 any child is wrong until a child is of age 16, 17, 18 years old. These are not issues that adults

00:35:00.840 should be forcing down their throats. And I'll, I'll die on that hill. You know what, as far as I'm 0.97

00:35:05.460 concerned, Disney as a corporation has lost all my respect, all my trust. I won't be going to their

00:35:11.520 theme parks because I was planning on doing that. I won't be going to watch their movies. I won't be

00:35:16.480 supporting them. I definitely won't be investing in their corporation. And I'll be encouraging every

00:35:21.540 person I know who's a parent to stop doing business with Disney until such time that Disney wakes up

00:35:28.120 and says, hey, you know what, maybe sexualizing kids isn't a good idea for a family oriented 0.98

00:35:32.720 company. Couldn't agree more, Nicky. And I also say, as I'm a bit of a theme park aficionado,

00:35:39.080 if you are in Florida, or California, for that matter, don't go to Disney World or Disneyland,

00:35:44.520 go to Universal if you want some really good rides to have fun on. I, what I'm getting at is I think

00:35:50.620 Disney is vastly overrated. But getting back to the book very quickly, Nicky, you provide a list of

00:35:58.100 more than 100 companies, as you say, for conservatives and patriots to protest, boycott and hound. And

00:36:07.340 I'm looking at the list. It's everything from Coca-Cola and Costco to Hyundai and Toyota. First of all,

00:36:15.700 Nicky, what are some of the reasons that you've targeted, say, the four companies I just mentioned

00:36:22.540 there? And do boycotts work? I mean, you really need a critical mass. Last time I went by my local

00:36:30.500 Costco, it was like, you know, half an hour lineups to buy your merchandise. Is there any hope of,

00:36:38.720 you know, basically initiating boycott movements in the first place?

00:36:42.900 Look, I would say conservatively in Canada and the United States, a good 70 to 75% of consumers

00:36:52.120 are against radical leftist woke ideology against sexualizing children, you know, against forcing

00:36:59.820 teenagers to make life altering decisions that they can't walk back. If later on, they get to some

00:37:07.020 clarity against pushing forward Marxist ideology, against going into schools and saying that one

00:37:16.100 ethnicity or one race is bad. I mean, we all, we used to call that racism back in my day, you know, 1.00

00:37:22.180 if you were against one ethnicity, we called you a racist. Now the left is trying to rebrand racism.

00:37:26.960 Well, the left have always been racist. Let's be honest. In the United States, the history of racism

00:37:31.120 is the history of the progressive left. The Democrat Party has always been the racist party.

00:37:35.980 They're the ones who have the slaves. They got really mad when us Republican types went,

00:37:40.260 took away their slaves and they got smart, you know, evil got smart. And they said, you know what,

00:37:46.140 we can't be open about our racism anymore. Let's, let's call the other people racist,

00:37:50.380 but we know we're still really the ones who are the racist because, you know, we're Democrats and

00:37:53.620 we're progressives and, you know, they've always been racist. Every progressive in the past has been a

00:38:00.380 racist. They've put racism at the center of their thinking and they're doing it again. They're just

00:38:04.880 pretending they're not. And it's very important for us to understand that. Now I'm not talking about

00:38:09.800 good, ordinary people who may be progressive in some of the things. Those people are not racist.

00:38:14.560 I'm talking about the activist ideologues. Those people absolutely are racist. The average person 0.82

00:38:20.280 isn't. 75% of people can be persuaded that they should not with their dollars be supporting

00:38:27.420 organizations that are absolutely destroying their children. They're absolutely, you know,

00:38:32.440 crapping all over their values. And if you think about this, if we can only get about 75%,

00:38:38.360 30%, which is less than half to switch their buying habits away from these organizations,

00:38:43.800 we're talking about seven and a half trillion dollars in Canada, in the United States that

00:38:50.480 will be taken away from these corporations. Trust me, that's a lot of revenue to divert elsewhere.

00:38:56.760 And if Coca-Cola lost 30% of its revenue in any given year, the CEO would be fired, 0.96

00:39:03.680 the shareholders would revolt, and they'd say, enough of this crap, let's get back to what we do 0.92

00:39:08.140 best, which is, you know, creating fizzy, sugared water, which is bad for you and bad for your teeth 0.97

00:39:12.480 and all that stuff. You shouldn't be drinking Coca-Cola in the first place for other reasons.

00:39:16.360 But the fact that they've gone crazy insane woke is another great reason not to do business with them.

00:39:20.820 And I really believe that if we have these organizations in the spirit of the great Ronald

00:39:26.060 Reagan, the happy warrior himself, we can absolutely beat these folks. Reagan had a simple strategy,

00:39:31.340 a simple philosophy when it came to fighting the Cold War against the Soviets. I have the same

00:39:35.980 philosophy when it comes to fighting progressive wokest ideology. You want to hear it? Shall I share it

00:39:42.360 with you, David? Absolutely. Don't hold back. Here it was. Here it was. Reagan's philosophy was,

00:39:48.060 it's simple. We win, they lose. We win, they lose. We win, they lose. That's what it's all about,

00:39:55.800 baby. And listen, in my other work, I'm a businessman. I teach the mindset of champions.

00:40:00.780 I work with men. I'm all about helping people have powerful, strong mindset. And that's what it's all

00:40:07.260 about. You got to have the people on our side stop being snowflakes too. Stop being victims. Stop

00:40:12.300 blaming other people. Get in action. Take extreme ownership, as Jocko Willink and Leif Babin say,

00:40:18.060 in their great book, Extreme Ownership, take extreme ownership. Stop blaming the other folks.

00:40:22.820 Get into action. They can give money to organizations like yours. They can actually

00:40:26.900 write letters or go on social media with the CEOs of these organizations. I bet you if the CEO of

00:40:32.220 Coca-Cola got 300 people on his Instagram saying, we're leaving you because you're woke, he'd notice.

00:40:37.980 He'd notice.

00:40:38.640 You know, and the proof is in the proverbial pudding, Nikki, because I go back to the Kortha 0.97

00:40:45.120 dairy story that we covered in which the employee was ordered to remove the Canadian flags from her

00:40:52.400 vehicle, a vehicle parked in Canada. And there was an enormous Patriot counter demonstration at the

00:40:59.140 dairy shop on Saturday. And lo and behold, the executives have reversed themselves and said, yep,

00:41:06.480 you can put those Canadian flags back on. You know, Nikki, we're running out of time. One last

00:41:11.860 question. And since you mentioned Disney and since we've seen this corporation take a financial knee

00:41:18.240 capping on so many fronts, here's the big picture question I want to ask you. Will Disney change its

00:41:25.660 ways? Because with any big corporation, as they say, the bottom line is the bottom line. And if they're

00:41:32.100 going to lose millions, even billions in revenue because of these crazy, you know, social justice

00:41:40.960 positions they've adopted and alienating their base in the meantime, will we see this company change

00:41:49.380 and reverse some of its policies like Kortha dairy did here in Canada? Or are we, is it going to be

00:41:55.980 more of the same just for waving the flag of wokeism? Well, listen, one of the things I can tell you is

00:42:03.100 I don't know if they will, and I don't know if they won't. But if we keep up the pressure, then we have a

00:42:08.680 better chance of having them change their policies. And if they don't, if they lose 30 to 50 percent of

00:42:14.500 their current revenues, then they're going to go out of business. I'd rather they don't go out of

00:42:18.780 business. Disney's a great American company started by a great American patriot. Walt Disney is now

00:42:23.380 rolling in his grave because he loved America and everything it stood for. If you read about this

00:42:28.020 man's story, my God, it'll, it'll give you goosebumps. It'll make you want to stand up and salute. He was

00:42:32.740 such a great man. Now he had his flaws. There were things about him that weren't great, but there were

00:42:36.600 so many things about him that were great. And the folks at Disney right now are led by weak and

00:42:42.520 competent leadership. There's a poem a friend of mine wrote, his name is Jeff Michael Hopf. And it goes

00:42:48.080 something like this, hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create

00:42:53.900 weak men, weak men create hard times. Well, we're living in hard times right now because weak men

00:42:58.780 have been in charge. We've had people in charge of Canada who are weak, like Justin Trudeau. We've

00:43:03.500 had people in charge of America that are weak, like Barack Obama and Joe Biden. What we need right

00:43:10.280 now is we need some of those hard men. Those are the men that need to come up and save the world. And

00:43:14.480 yeah, we need, we need, and listen, just in case there's anybody here who's going, oh, what about

00:43:18.160 women? Well, yeah, we absolutely need hard women too. My favorite leader of the last half of the 1.00

00:43:22.980 20th century is the late, great Margaret Thatcher. Lady Thatcher, the Iron Lady, inspired me even more

00:43:29.940 than Ronald Reagan, more than Pope John Paul II. She had big ovaries and she got them done. We need 1.00

00:43:36.820 women and women to their credit are stepping up. I mean, in the United States and even in Canada,

00:43:41.380 they're the ones that are going to school boards more than the men and fighting back against these

00:43:45.960 wokest and God bless the women. The mama bears are what we need to, but I'm talking to the men right 0.96

00:43:50.960 now. Cause you know, I'm a man and there's a lot of men right now that are acting like a bunch of

00:43:54.560 wussies. Uh, you know, and there's another word that rhymes with wussies and I'll just leave it to 0.99

00:43:59.000 your imagination as to what that word ought to be. These men need to get up off their duff. They need to

00:44:04.520 stand up and they need to say enough of this, stop buying from Disney, organize other people to stop

00:44:09.220 doing it. And you know, you got to push back against these corporations and their institutional

00:44:14.420 investors like BlackRock Corporation, who really is a pushing a woke agenda. I don't understand why

00:44:20.360 someone who's made, uh, trillions of dollars for his organization is pushing wokeism, but for whatever

00:44:25.220 reason, he's decided this is the thing to do. We need to push back against these organizations.

00:44:29.120 We need to find our own champions who are wealthy. And it looks like Elon Musk is coming over from the

00:44:33.840 dark side to the side of the angels. So let's really work with people like Elon. If Elon watches the show,

00:44:39.120 are you listening to this? Elon, my name is Nicky Ballou. Look me up, man. Let's talk. Let's work.

00:44:43.400 You're a man with a big voice. You know, I'm a man with some masculine cojones. We can work together 0.99

00:44:47.840 and make a lot of good things happen in the world. And we ought to, the world needs for us to do this.

00:44:53.320 And I say this to every progressive thinker, to every liberal person, a fair-minded person,

00:44:58.520 I'm on your side. I believe in that I want to free Canada and I want everyone to be tolerated.

00:45:03.940 I am a brown man from the Middle East. I've actually experienced real racism. When I was a

00:45:09.820 young boy in Iran, a Molotov cocktail was thrown through my window. The note on it said,

00:45:15.360 die Christian scum, a shuri scum. It was based on my ethnicity and my religion. So for all you people 1.00

00:45:21.320 who think you've actually experienced racism, tell me if you got a better story than that,

00:45:25.180 then we'll talk because I bet you don't. Right? So I'm nobody. And I mean, nobody is more opposed

00:45:32.500 to racist, true racist behavior than Nikki Ballou. But I also am not going to put up with the wokest

00:45:38.920 and the left-wing activists co-opting opposition to racism because they really aren't opposed to it

00:45:45.080 and trying to smear people, fair-minded people, and getting them to shut up by falsely claiming

00:45:50.000 they're racist. If you want to come after Nikki Ballou and call him a racist, bring it, buddy. 1.00

00:45:54.580 Bring it. Because I'll eviscerate you. I will destroy you, you leftist, woke piece of garbage 1.00

00:46:02.120 lying sack of you-know-what. Don't you dare. We are the party of the people who freed the slaves. 1.00

00:46:09.040 You're the ones who took the slaves and you got mad at us for taking them away from you.

00:46:13.900 So get over yourself and let's go. Let's go. Let's make this world a better place for you.

00:46:18.700 Normal people who are left of center, hey, you're with us. Pretty soon they're going to come after

00:46:22.680 you too. We're all going to be right of center. Just like Elon Musk with his beautiful little graphic

00:46:26.680 that he placed it on Twitter. Before yesterday, he'd never voted Republican. Yesterday,

00:46:30.940 for the first time in his life, he voted for a Republican.

00:46:33.640 There you go. Well, Nikki, I love your enthusiasm and hope abounds. And my goodness,

00:46:38.280 that list of leaders of decades gone past, Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, Pope John Paul.

00:46:44.340 I really wish there was a Delorne with the flux capacitor option so I could go back in time to the

00:46:50.700 80s. It seemed like a hell of a lot normal time than we're living in today. And Nikki, one last

00:46:57.100 question quickly, because we are out of time. If somebody wants to get a copy of the great

00:47:01.980 Patriot protest and boycott book, how do they get it, my friend?

00:47:06.360 It's on Amazon. Go on Amazon, Amazon.ca. You know, if you're elsewhere, Amazon.com,

00:47:12.600 go grab yourself a copy. And, you know, you can contact us. Our emails are in the back cover,

00:47:17.940 back page of the book. So you can email me and Wayne and we'll respond.

00:47:21.320 Fantastic. Nikki, it's a pleasure. Maybe we'll have you back in the future, especially if Disney

00:47:28.100 does indeed reverse its ways. Thank you so much for your time, my friend.

00:47:33.120 Thanks for having me on. It's an honor to be here.

00:47:35.380 You got it. And that is Nikki Ballou, who, along with Wayne Allen Root, is the co-author of

00:47:42.080 The Great Patriot, sorry, The Great, yes, The Great Patriot Protest and Boycott book,

00:47:47.720 required reading, folks. You'll really enjoy this one. Keep it here. More of the Ezra LeVent show to

00:47:53.540 come right after this.

00:48:06.300 Well, folks, plenty of mail last night regarding Ezra's monologue on the travel restrictions

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00:48:18.180 writes, I'm so glad that Canada has rebel news or else this country would be left to the idiots 1.00

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00:48:32.280 the vast majority of the mainstream media is on the government take in one form or the other.

00:48:38.620 We depend on you, our viewers, to fund rebel news. And for that, we are forever grateful.

00:48:47.380 Ron Fowler writes, did you ever in your life think that Canada would be in a group with North Korea

00:48:54.740 and China? Well, yes, Ron, I did. And I started thinking that way several years ago. I think it was

00:49:01.480 2014 before Prime Minister Trudeau became Prime Minister Trudeau, when he was just Citizen Justin.

00:49:07.800 And he remarked at a female-only meeting in Toronto that he has admiration for the basic

00:49:18.320 dictatorship of China. The very fact that he said that a future leader of a Western democracy

00:49:26.260 is unbelievable and egregious. But he said it himself. Those were his own words. So yeah,

00:49:33.740 the idea that Canada is increasingly resembling communist China, no surprise whatsoever, my friend, 0.91

00:49:41.260 sadly. And Dave Sobrani writes, I think they ended the mandates because of the veteran walking to Ottawa.

00:49:50.520 They are very scared. Yes, that would be James Topp, who is indeed walking right across our country

00:49:56.980 to Ottawa. Say, folks, do you think Justin Trudeau will actually come out and greet him? Will shake

00:50:04.460 his hand? Or would this be another case of, you know, as Justin likes to say, the veterans are simply

00:50:10.700 asking for too much? What a disgrace. Well, folks, that wraps up tonight's edition of the Ezra Levent Show.

00:50:18.400 Thanks for tuning in. The Big Boss Man, he'll be back tomorrow. In the meantime, as always, stay sane.

00:50:26.140 Kerry Diot for Rebel News. Everyone knows and remembers the late Ted Byfield as a conservative

00:50:33.020 activist and great opinion columnist. Now there is a book about the man and the legend.

00:50:40.380 There's a gentleman by the name of Jonathan Van Maren, who runs his own show, The Bridgehead. And he felt that

00:50:50.880 we don't have enough conservative heroes. In fact, I don't think we have hardly any these days. And

00:50:58.920 the media has done a great job in popularizing a lot of left-wing folks. But Dad or Ted was very much

00:51:16.300 a larger-than-life figure. And this came through. And the stories that circulate around my dad

00:51:25.440 are so amazing at times that some people think that they're made up. And Dad is the first one to say

00:51:35.720 that, how did he put it? Verification has ruined many a good story. But at the same time, the facts

00:51:45.620 with some of the things that my dad had accomplished in his life need to be told. Hopefully, it will serve

00:51:54.580 as an inspiration. For someone who's never heard of Alberta Report, how would you describe it?

00:52:01.760 Time magazine from literally 1920 in terms of its viewpoints. It was Christianity. It was Christian

00:52:09.260 values, but it wasn't in-your-face Christian values. It was just assumed. It was sort of the foundation of

00:52:17.080 every article, pretty much. But it was not. Anyway, it took off. It was very popular. And what happened

00:52:25.560 in the early 80s is it became known that they were practically the only media, if not the only media,

00:52:33.860 in the province that was going to stand up to the liberals when Pierre Elliott Trudeau and Marc

00:52:41.740 Lalonde introduced the National Energy Programme, which was a blatant grab of Alberta's energy in terms of

00:52:48.920 tax revenue.

00:52:50.500 Did your dad see this book before he passed away?

00:52:54.980 No, I'm afraid not. He was able to see a draft of the first three or four chapters and had provided a lot of

00:53:06.780 input with Jonathan. He thought Jonathan did a really good job. And by the way, people who've

00:53:12.700 reviewed the book and have endorsed the book, like Preston Manning, Preston won't endorse a book unless

00:53:19.940 he's read it. He's a very principled man. And he thought it was exceptionally well done. And so did others.

00:53:28.720 Phil DeBrand, your competitor for the Western Standard, said he could not put the book down. He just,

00:53:35.100 he says, he's never read a book faster.

00:53:37.220 What did he think about politics toward the end of his life? Obviously, he saw the first Trudeau up close and

00:53:43.460 personal.

00:53:45.240 Yeah, I think actually dad had a fair amount of respect for his adversary. He always thought of Pierre as a

00:53:56.960 very intelligent man, but quite clearly, the enemy. And if you read dad's

00:54:04.880 writings, even early on, even though dad lived and died a federalist, dad saw the, what is often coined

00:54:16.140 now, the Laurentian elites as a really serious problem that will wreck this country if they are not somehow

00:54:24.760 put in check. And so dad came up with the triple E Senate, well, along with Preston Manning.

00:54:30.840 And, uh, but that's been fairly soundly rejected since.

00:54:36.100 The, uh, it's probably not a secret to most people in Alberta that it's arguable that had your dad not

00:54:43.520 been around, there might not be a Conservative Party of Canada.

00:54:46.460 Uh, yeah, I think so. Because, uh, I, if you look at the history of movements, I think that the Reform Party

00:54:59.520 very clearly said, and it, and the most, the most famous expression that's associated with the Reform Party is

00:55:08.720 the West wants in. Uh, and, uh, so I think had Preston and dad not provided that leadership and vision,

00:55:27.900 there were plenty of people, even back then in the nineties, uh, who wanted out and had had enough.

00:55:37.660 Uh, but dad, uh, said, we need to give it one more try. And, uh, and they did, they tried really hard.

00:55:45.420 Um, and, uh, so, so Preston obviously created the Reform Party and, and then, uh, Stephen Harper took over

00:55:53.240 and, uh, and then merged with Peter McKay. I have my opinions on that not necessarily being the best

00:56:02.380 thing for Western Canada, but, uh, certainly has kept, uh, kept everything stuck together in terms of

00:56:09.820 the Conf, the Federation. What do you think, what, what do you think your dad would like to be remembered

00:56:15.020 most for? I think he wants to be remembered most for his books. Uh, and, and, uh, he, he, he, every day

00:56:28.880 until his last day prayed every morning and prayed every night. And I think that he wants to be remembered

00:56:38.240 as a good and loyal servant of God. Now that means serving his fellow man. And that means serving his

00:56:50.000 fellow Albertan and Western Canadian. And he genuinely does feel that a Canada that can resolve these

00:56:58.740 regional issues is better than a divided Canada. And I might add, he has said that if Alberta were to

00:57:08.060 ever separate, that's the end of Canada, the rest of Canada will fall apart very, very quickly.

00:57:16.160 Ted Byfield was a conservative legend. If you'd like to know more about what made this guy tick,

00:57:22.940 check out Prairie Lion, the book.

Rebel News Podcast - June 16, 2022

EZRA LEVANT ｜ What does the Canadian flag represent to you in 2022？

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