Rebel News Podcast - February 02, 2026


EZRA LEVANT | What happened inside the Conservative Party convention


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47 minutes

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185.8005

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8,917

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Summary

Rebel News is at the Conservative Party Convention in Calgary, and we're here to tell you all about it. We're at the conservative party conference in Calgary, and it's an enormous gathering of thousands of people, and the key vote happened yesterday, namely that UCP leader Justin Parnell received a vote of confidence by 87.4% of the party, which is about as high as Stephen Harper got after his first attempt at re-election, when he didn't make it.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 tonight rebel news is at the conservative party convention i'll tell you all the details
00:00:19.700 it's february 2nd and this is the answer levant show
00:00:22.940 shame on you you censorious bug
00:00:29.140 oh hi everybody i am at the conservative party conference in calgary thousands of people it's
00:00:44.380 an enormous gathering and i'm coming to you on saturday the key vote happened yesterday namely
00:00:51.620 that uh pierre paulie have received a vote of confidence by 87.4 percent of the party if my
00:00:59.920 memory is correct to the exactitudes that's about as high as stephen harper got after his first
00:01:07.120 election attempt when he didn't make it it's not quite as high as danielle smith's uh affirmation
00:01:13.120 by her provincial party and recall jason kenney the premier of alberta left the position after
00:01:19.380 receiving just 51 percent of the vote by the ucp after his disastrous handling of covid anyhow the
00:01:26.160 party seems united and of course there's the old saying you can't beat someone with no one by which
00:01:32.600 i mean if not pierre paulieff then who and i think a lot of the disparagement of pierre paulieff is bad
00:01:38.300 faith criticism by people who hate him anyways if you look at most of the people who've been slagging
00:01:43.780 pierre paulieff it's liberals it's the cbc they mock him just the other day i saw this outrageous
00:01:50.180 uh sketch on this hour has 22 minutes just mocking pierre paulieff trying to denormalize him
00:01:57.140 not funny at all just trying to make him come across as whiny and and grating take a look oh my god
00:02:04.000 this is pierre's worst new year's party yet you think so remember 2021 we had to help him put his
00:02:09.600 contacts in this one's worse look around we're at a loser party okay maybe we should go to the
00:02:15.720 liberal party hey hey isn't this party something team no music fully lit hard chairs i love it yeah
00:02:23.180 yeah too bad some of the group left for the liberal party traitorous scum yeah i hate traitorous scum
00:02:29.980 plus i heard the party sucks anyway you know open bar can you imagine enjoying a drink you didn't earn
00:02:36.020 yeah plus new year new pierre i'm nice and i'm fun now you guys want to play my favorite party game
00:02:44.660 i test yeah maybe in a bit okay you're missing out yeah it's it's not even funny it's just insults
00:02:52.540 and mean girl stuff i think they're forgetting to use the laugh track over there at this hour's 22
00:02:57.200 minutes anyways i think pierre paulieff can win and i know that because for about a year he was miles
00:03:03.580 ahead of the liberal party until mark carney came in nuked the carbon tax and whipped up anti-americanism
00:03:11.060 against donald trump i don't think that pierre paulieff managed to parry that quickly enough
00:03:16.900 i don't think they came up with a strategy quickly enough they didn't change quickly enough to adjust
00:03:22.580 to the new lay of the land but i think it is certainly possible to win the next time now
00:03:27.020 the liberal media it's like they were shot at and missed so they felt like it was a miracle
00:03:33.980 the last election that paulieff was kept out and they want to keep it that way that's why the
00:03:38.580 importance of independent journalists is even more important not just rebel news but there's a lot of
00:03:43.200 influencers who are here the conservative party knows that if if they are going to have any hope of
00:03:49.080 getting their message out it's not going to be through liberal mouthpieces like the cbc or ctv it's
00:03:54.260 going to be through independent people like rebel news and the influencers who are here anyways um
00:04:00.040 here without further ado let me play for you some videos of the proceedings last few days and then
00:04:07.000 let me end with a conversation with my friend sheila gun reid who's our chief reporter who was here the
00:04:12.100 whole time i should tell you that one of the exciting things about rebel news's coverage has been
00:04:16.380 that tamara leach our newest hire was here as a reporter as you know we hired her and we have a very
00:04:23.780 careful agreement with her probation officer she's under house arrest which is outrageous but there
00:04:29.600 is a legal exemption for work and rebel news has in fact signed an employment contract with tamara so
00:04:36.160 her coming to calgary and her traveling around that is all permitted under the terms of her sentence i feel
00:04:41.900 great about that and just watching the people here come up to her and take selfies with her and hug her
00:04:48.580 and catch up with her is very affirming for her and we're so proud of our affiliation with her and it's
00:04:55.640 a rebuke to all of those uh in the regime media who disparaged her and even let's be fair to some
00:05:02.300 conservatives who were too timid about the truckers at the time anyways i just wanted to put in that plug
00:05:07.220 for the great work that tamara leach is doing also a shout out to syd fazard and angelica toy who've been
00:05:12.820 working hard out here without further ado here are some highlights from the conservative party convention
00:05:18.220 it's tamara leach here with rebel news and i am joined by andrew lawton mp from ontario and
00:05:30.420 also a good friend of mine um andrew how are you enjoying the convention it's good it's always good
00:05:35.980 to be around members of our conservative family from across the country we had a great showing last
00:05:40.860 night uh really decisive results in support of peer polyev's leadership and i think also pretty
00:05:46.180 clear to canadians broadly what the stakes are after 10 years of liberals so i'm glad to be taking
00:05:51.660 what happens here and head back to ottawa and hold the liberal government to account uh next week yes
00:05:57.200 uh i love watching you in the house of commons i mean you've just you're such an inspiration i think
00:06:02.960 for so many people um that want to get involved in politics and i just want to say you know i watched
00:06:08.860 your exchange with uh stephen mckinnon the other day in the house and uh and i was obviously unimpressed
00:06:15.240 with his with his answer i mean how what what did you think of that well i i look i i mean i i didn't
00:06:21.200 ask the question expecting an answer but i had hoped that there would be one and one of the big
00:06:25.080 frustrations i've seen is that the liberals will want to claim credit for things that justin trudeau did
00:06:30.000 when it suits them and then when it's something controversial they say oh this is a new government we
00:06:34.180 have nothing to do with that and the exchange you're referring to i was asking if the liberals
00:06:38.240 will accept the federal court of appeal ruling on the emergencies act and accept that they violated
00:06:43.220 the constitutional rights of canadians or if they would appeal it and he wouldn't give an answer and
00:06:48.140 again it's another example of they're trying to disclaim responsibility for this trudeau era decision
00:06:54.680 but now if they appeal it they have to own that decision and they have to basically own that they do not
00:06:59.480 believe they broke the law even though two courts have ruled that they did exactly four four judges
00:07:05.280 actually yes so which is with some very direct wording i might add i i mean i thought the decision
00:07:11.380 that the wording and the decision was pretty decisive um so going forward now um like how how was the
00:07:19.260 conservative how would a conservative government hold this whole situation to account because it was
00:07:24.280 ruled is unlawful now in my opinion um history would dictate that a decision like that would force
00:07:30.440 mps involved in that decision making process and anybody else to resign well certainly cabinet ministers
00:07:37.920 need to bear accountability for for what they've done and you know obviously christian freeland and
00:07:42.400 justin trudeau are now out of office i i do think that canadians get very frustrated when you can
00:07:48.460 you know violate the most fundamental freedoms we have as canadians and that there doesn't seem to be
00:07:53.600 outraged we haven't seen a lot of pressure from the media the liberals have not really come out and
00:07:57.860 apologize at a bare minimum so i i think that from a conservative perspective i would say that
00:08:03.480 for starters we vow to not do it we vow to not go down that road and i think those judges rulings need
00:08:09.740 to be a really important warning that you can't just for political convenience target your political
00:08:15.140 opponents in those sorts of ways and you know whether there are changes to the emergencies act itself
00:08:20.180 i would certainly be happy to look into that process but i think the whole point of it is that
00:08:24.420 the act is supposed to constrain governments from doing what the liberal government did
00:08:29.140 absolutely and so so changing gears a little bit here we're obviously in beautiful calgary alberta
00:08:34.980 um and as you know there's a there's quite a little independence movement happening here
00:08:39.960 so what would you say to albertans um to encourage them to stay in confederation and remain a part of
00:08:46.540 the country of canada when you know um obviously there there is a lot of issues that the invalid
00:08:51.540 concerns i think that albertans have you know i i love canada and i love alberta and i love the fact
00:08:56.920 that alberta and albertans are a part of this this beautiful country i will say that i understand
00:09:02.320 the frustrations people in the west have but i also very mindful being an ontario mp i don't want to
00:09:08.460 be the one coming here and telling albertans how they have to think and how they have to feel
00:09:11.800 you know i think that in general right now the conservatives are putting forward a vision for
00:09:16.060 a canada that would alleviate a lot of these concerns and i think we need to sell that to
00:09:19.940 all canadians in the next election and we're trying to make the country a better place for
00:09:23.560 everyone to make sure confederation works but i'm also not going to be an ontarian that's going to
00:09:27.480 come and tell albertans that they don't have grievances with the status quo right exactly
00:09:32.420 and uh what's next for you look i we have our premier daniel smith is fee as a speaker here
00:09:38.900 we have our policy discussions on the agenda we have lots more people from across the country
00:09:44.120 that i haven't seen in a while that i'm hoping to connect with and then on monday we head back
00:09:47.780 to ottawa and get back to work well it's always great to see you i want to congratulate you on a
00:09:52.960 smashingly successful convention the largest one i believe you guys have had so far so yes that's
00:09:59.360 what i heard anyway so congratulations and it's always great to see you and thank you for making
00:10:03.040 the time for me today you too tamara thank you sheila gun reid for rebel news i'm here in calgary at
00:10:10.340 the largest conservative convention ever and a common sense policy resolution just died on the
00:10:18.500 floor i'm here with billboard chris elston an advocate for the rights of children and bodily
00:10:25.560 autonomy tell me what just happened yeah i'm an advocate for the rights of children to grow up
00:10:31.880 without having body parts removed without being sterilized with chemical castration drugs cross-sex
00:10:38.140 hormones and a resolution to make it so that children could get therapy to feel comfortable
00:10:45.300 in their skin as god created them so that children could receive the message that they are beautiful as
00:10:50.640 they are no drugs or scalpers needed that resolution to protect kids did not pass it was close but that's
00:10:58.120 bizarre you know it what i saw was you know a policy that protected the rights of parents to seek
00:11:06.320 religious or psychological therapy for kids who are struggling with gender identity and we know
00:11:12.800 that when kids struggle with gender identity it does put them at risk of suicide why wouldn't you want
00:11:18.160 them to be able to go to therapy right so a few years ago a bill passed called bill c4 right which made
00:11:23.780 a crime of conversion therapy to try to make a gay person straight everyone agrees with that we
00:11:29.200 shouldn't do that right but the real purpose of this bill was the gender identity component
00:11:32.840 and these same bills get presented all over the world by the trans activists and they use the
00:11:38.080 sexual orientation component to buy support for the real reason these bills are created which is to
00:11:43.080 stop people from helping children to feel comfortable with their sex so it is now a crime if your little
00:11:49.900 girl says she's a boy it's a crime to say no sweetheart you're a beautiful girl we love you just as you
00:11:56.620 are it's a crime to help her to feel comfortable as a girl same for boys it's totally okay to convince
00:12:03.660 your little girl that she was born in the wrong body right and that she needs puberty blockers cross-sex
00:12:09.000 hormones and a double mastectomy at the age of 14 that's what apparently passes for compassion
00:12:14.020 so the actual conversion therapy going on is what all of our mps unanimously voted for with bill c4
00:12:22.260 because most of these kids according to all the academic studies would grow up to be gay
00:12:27.480 they're now telling these kids that they're born in the wrong body right in iran gay men will be killed
00:12:33.700 but the first ayatollah issued a fatwa which made it okay for them to be trans so to stay alive in
00:12:40.760 in the country of iran the gay men transition that's homophobia we do the same thing here
00:12:47.220 and we call it love and acceptance and the mp tamara cronis from nanaimo ladysmith got up on the mic
00:12:54.960 objected and she said that this was very divisive you know what's divisive maiming and sterilizing kids
00:13:01.080 we should stop doing that yeah we we would expect that the conservative party would be fundamentally
00:13:07.580 fundamentally different than the left on this issue that this should be the place
00:13:11.740 of common sense and reality but we saw that it is completely divided in the room
00:13:17.020 yes a lot of these people are confused but it is incredible to me because i travel the world
00:13:23.480 i've been out on the streets for five and a half years talking to tens of thousands of people
00:13:27.820 i get 90 support on the street i was just in davos at the world economic forum where you'd think i'd
00:13:33.660 have a lot of opposition there was only one person who was opposed to what i was doing i had non-stop
00:13:38.240 enthusiastic support which i get all over the world but for some reason this conservative party
00:13:43.460 is too afraid to tell the truth about this they don't even want to hear about it they just want
00:13:49.200 to bury their head in the sand and pretend that they're helping kids when they're doing the exact
00:13:55.280 opposite if they want to win liberal votes this is the number one way they could do it
00:13:59.760 right by saying stop the chemical castration of children get men out of women's sports and you'd
00:14:04.380 have moderate leftists all day long coming over the conservative party but they're all afraid yeah
00:14:08.940 they they couldn't vote to empower parents to get their own children to help that they need to deal
00:14:14.640 with this issue now i think that it is like an 80 20 90 10 issue even in this room but i think across
00:14:23.740 all political parties that people are against sterilizing children yeah i think they're scared
00:14:29.900 of the mainstream media that's what it is so yesterday this resolution passed there's two stages in the
00:14:36.360 first vote it passed with 68 which i was shocked that it was that low but i'm told from someone in the
00:14:44.420 know that leadership of the conservative party encouraged their people to vote against this resolution
00:14:52.080 so this is coming from the very top this is on pierre paulia i can't confirm or deny that but i do know
00:14:59.220 that it was split in this room and i also know that these people in their hearts and minds know that
00:15:06.140 sterilizing kids is wrong right so of course they they're too scared of the cbc in the room i guess
00:15:12.600 it's absolute cowardice yeah let the radical left scream who cares right you know what you can do you can
00:15:18.440 just ignore them right and you can do what is right and you can stand up to protect kids right here in
00:15:23.680 canada not even the conservative party will do it and i travel all over the world i deal with
00:15:27.980 politicians all over the world i spoke in the european parliament twice last year i went to australia i met
00:15:33.380 with 20 different mps and senators i work with politicians in the uk this is the only conservative
00:15:39.140 party that won't speak out against this it's a shame it's a shame um and people expect more yes and i
00:15:46.580 wanted to come here and i am here to make friends i'm here to make allies i'm here to turn enemies
00:15:50.980 into allies and i want to be a friend of the conservative party but they have to wake up this
00:15:57.180 is the greatest child abuse scandal in modern medicine history and they are enabling it it's a
00:16:02.060 gift to the liberals chris thanks so much uh you know this interview was sort of on the fly you came
00:16:08.300 over we were all sort of stunned at what we saw but thanks for articulating uh the problem with just
00:16:14.600 what unfolded here thank you yes stop being afraid of the media yes just tell the truth it's not hard
00:16:20.320 aaron gunn mp from north island power river bc thanks for joining me aaron thank you for having me
00:16:28.560 so day two of the convention um what are your thoughts so far well i think there's a lot of
00:16:33.080 energy in the room there's a lot of unity despite what you might hear on the mainstream media and a lot
00:16:38.640 of talk about how this country in so many ways is worse off than we were 10 years ago because of
00:16:44.440 liberal and ndp policies whether it's on the fiscal side of things whether it's keeping our resources in
00:16:49.400 the ground handing out free drugs and we've been uh myself other mps and we just heard from pierre
00:16:55.660 articulating uh an alternative vision for canada where we make a smaller government to make room for
00:17:01.480 bigger citizens yes exactly and so some of the as you were just talking about some of the biggest
00:17:07.300 concerns i think for canadians right now obviously is the economy and the resources um so some of the
00:17:13.600 solutions that you guys uh are going to put forth what uh do you have in mind like uh bill c69 for
00:17:21.160 example bill c48 um those types of that type of repealing that kind of legislation so uh you know
00:17:27.460 mark curry and the liberals they've talked a big game about setting up this special projects office
00:17:32.100 to try to steam uh streamline process approvals development approvals but it's the liberals own
00:17:38.520 policies that are stopping all of these developments from happening in the first place and we just say
00:17:43.640 you know it's not that this country we have so much uh ingenuity of the canadian people we have
00:17:50.700 such an incredible wealth of natural resources we don't actually really need the government to step up in
00:17:56.340 any particular way we just need the government to get out of the way and give this country back to
00:18:00.920 those who built up the people and there's people ready to build things in this country but just over
00:18:05.100 and over again the bureaucracy the red tape the political decision making uh slows things down and
00:18:10.240 this country is built on pioneers who built things right we're a couple a mile away maybe from the
00:18:16.180 canadian pacific railway that goes right through the heart of downtown calgary the ribbon of steel that
00:18:21.060 that made canada what it is today so we just have to get back i think to that mentality and
00:18:24.740 empowering citizens to step up absolutely now i i'm sure a lot of canadians like me are watching
00:18:30.840 some of the things that are happening in bc on a provincial level as far as the um uh land grabs
00:18:36.200 that seem to be happening now and property rights so is that something that you think that a conservative
00:18:41.300 government uh um federally can can help curb i think it has a lot to do with the undrip
00:18:46.700 policies that have been implemented so i mean that's a big concern for a lot of canadians because
00:18:51.560 it's it's their property yeah look i think there's uh in some cases you have to react to decisions
00:18:57.580 that the court makes that you you don't agree with but i think it's important as people that hold
00:19:02.660 political office to articulate clearly where we stand and that is in this case uh there can be no
00:19:08.080 compromising of private property rights and that has to be a red line and you know whether how you
00:19:13.660 go about doing that is maybe depends on what the courts decide to say as far as i'm concerned
00:19:18.280 if you have to try in the constitution to ensure that it's protected then that's what you have to
00:19:22.640 do but that's got to be a red line that we can't cross because you know if you start compromising
00:19:27.700 private property rights who in their right mind is going to invest a cent in canada whether it's a
00:19:32.440 resource company or whether it's someone that just wants to buy their own home if you can't guarantee
00:19:37.500 the fee simple title beneath it yeah i agree i think um i think we need to see that so definitely
00:19:44.340 stabilize for sure and i mean i'm personally worried about the economy i mean i think even
00:19:49.360 if a conservative government is elected tomorrow for example um i think so much damage has been done
00:19:56.040 i think to our reputation um that it would take a long time before these businesses are going to come
00:20:00.840 back and and invest in canada again what are your thoughts on that i mean look it's not going to be
00:20:06.120 a problem you fix overnight i tell people that there's there's lots of problems facing the country
00:20:10.300 some are actually pretty easy to fix like the fact that we keep allowing repeat violent offenders
00:20:15.400 out onto our streets i mean that's an easy one to fix you stop releasing them out of the prison system
00:20:20.320 other issues like the fact we've doubled our national debt in the last 10 years that's a tough one to
00:20:26.240 fix the fact we're running the largest deficit uh in history outside of covid and then um as you
00:20:32.540 pointed out the fact we've lost so much investment you know they say you know investment is kind of like
00:20:37.500 trust it leaves on horseback and returns on foot so it can be a lot easier to lose it than it is to
00:20:43.540 get it back but uh the thing that we have going for us again is we have so much incredible natural
00:20:48.200 wealth in this country and we have a great workforce and an educated workforce so i think if we do get
00:20:53.820 government in that is pro-investment that sets the playing field where people want to come here and
00:21:00.040 do business i do think you will get uh capital and investment back in the country yes and i know you're
00:21:06.320 a bit of a time crunch here so i just i have one more question i want to ask you so there is three
00:21:11.080 provinces in confederation right now that are all seriously talking about um seeking independence
00:21:16.460 and so um what would you tell the people that are seeking separation like what what reasons would
00:21:24.760 you give say albertans to stay as a part of confederation look i i understand why people are
00:21:31.720 frustrated and many of these provinces uh after 10 years of liberal government as pierre was saying
00:21:37.860 earlier but look this is for me when it comes back to supporting this country and supporting confederation
00:21:42.540 we have to take the long-term view this country's been around for over 150 years it's one of the
00:21:46.660 longest continuous democracies in the world and the vision that built this country that johnny mcdonald
00:21:53.420 laid down in 1867 where we built the national railway that we fought and defended through two world wars
00:21:58.940 the the the foundation of that is still there we just need a government that that can that steps up
00:22:05.000 to realize canada's true potential once again and so i think the the foundation is is covered in so much
00:22:10.880 government mismanagement bureaucracy and red tape and infringement on the constitutional rights of
00:22:15.600 canadians but we can fix that and the foundation and we are fundamentally stronger together as long as
00:22:21.320 we get a government uh in in ottawa and in my case in british columbia as well it's not it's not any
00:22:28.300 better in victoria i can tell you and uh that gets this country working again for for the incredible
00:22:33.920 citizens that call canada home so i do think that we are stronger together we just have to pull together
00:22:38.800 to make confederation work better for everybody
00:22:40.620 hey everybody i'm lise merrill from rebel news here at the biggest conservative convention to date
00:22:48.200 in calgary alberta uh i am joined today by the inimitable fortress of a woman dallas brody leader of
00:22:57.980 one bc dallas thanks so much for joining us today thank you for having me uh buddy i want to just start
00:23:03.400 out by asking you why it is you do the work that you do the work i'm doing is driven by my um sense
00:23:11.600 over the last few years before i got into politics that think this country's drifting away from
00:23:15.380 everything that i had growing up i was born in 62 and i'm watching things change to and not for the
00:23:21.300 better i'm very i'm i'm doing this because my ancestors i'm a fifth generation british columbia i
00:23:27.420 consider myself indigenous i i grew up here they built they built vancouver parts of british columbia
00:23:33.220 they loved it and they gave us so much and they fought in wars and we owe it and i really feel
00:23:40.420 that it's not about me i need to be brave and stand up and say what needs to be said and i also have
00:23:47.300 children and i'm very concerned about the future we're leaving them with right now these it's it's
00:23:52.020 very it's not looking good for them yeah i don't think you're alone in that i think there are great
00:23:57.060 many canadians that feel that we are reaching a critical moment where if we don't do something all of
00:24:03.180 this is lost and then then it's for what then it's for what and then you're and then you're left
00:24:08.160 and i have many friends who are around my age and they say well i'm leaving i'm going to move to here
00:24:12.780 and i and i get mad at them sometimes i say if you you guys if everybody just left britain and didn't
00:24:19.020 fight then look what would have happened they stood we have to stay and fight for what's right
00:24:24.280 and i know that nobody likes to be the one who's criticized at the dinner party or the person who
00:24:29.320 loses friends because they're saying uncomfortable truths but it's a time for finding our inner
00:24:34.500 bravery and saying i don't care if you're going to be mad at me i need to say this and do this and
00:24:41.960 and i know that that takes bravery but think about the bravery it took to get out of those boats
00:24:45.740 at normandy like that's bravery this is simply overcoming some social discomfort
00:24:50.800 and once you once you get over it because once you've been called a bad name once that's the
00:24:56.700 worst that's the worst time right it gets easier from there and then and then you realize what kind
00:25:02.260 of power that gives you just just not be stopped and speaking the truth it is truly a sight to behold
00:25:07.360 and you okay nobody is doing a better job in canada right now than dallas brody and taking up
00:25:13.540 all the air in the room oh dallas they're jealous of you they want the attention that dallas brody is
00:25:19.200 getting but only dallas brody is telling the truth and that's why she's getting it stallas you are
00:25:25.620 dealing with david eby as a premier in british columbia and we are so sorry british columbia like how
00:25:32.440 oh god managed this for this this many years but he recently he recently called independence
00:25:40.060 minded western canadians uh treasonous didn't he didn't he call yes like traitors treasonous yes
00:25:48.160 what what do you what do you say to independence minded western canadians to try and compel them
00:25:55.560 to stay in canada like what would your words of advice be well i can't believe well first of all
00:26:00.560 i couldn't believe it when i heard him commenting on that i said i said to myself david the entire
00:26:06.300 province of british columbia isn't functioning every single file is on fire 9 11 9 11 full sos fire
00:26:13.400 stage crisis everywhere and you're sitting here throwing rocks at people in alberta who are trying
00:26:19.040 to get a better deal for their province it's outrageous it is not treasonous to say that making
00:26:24.120 some arrangements if the people vote to leave they have the right to make arrangements with other
00:26:28.120 countries for um for support and you know banking and international relations i mean this is what's
00:26:34.820 involved in being an independent country this is what happens and so it i i was shocked because it
00:26:40.740 to me that was arrogant of him keep your nose in our own province you've got enough problems of your
00:26:45.560 own david and deal with that it's terrible and and this is a legitimate and lawful referendum that's
00:26:52.720 taking place here it may not succeed but the people there needs to be a transition plan if it does
00:26:57.400 succeed yes you have to have a transition plan i've already started dreaming of my transition plan for
00:27:02.780 when i take over british columbia and and become premier of that province and i'm going to have
00:27:06.980 a transition teams on every front you're in charge of fixing forestry you're in charge of fixing mining
00:27:11.720 you're in charge of fixing the hospitals you come back in two weeks and i want to plan and we start
00:27:15.540 immediately i think we need more of this kind of energy in the world salisbury you go and fix the
00:27:21.360 mess you made right today yes and do i love this for us i love this for us you deserve this after
00:27:28.000 this many years of ndpr rule like you need a big correction in oh we need a big correction and and
00:27:33.580 it hasn't just it's been a it's been a decline that is is now like it's falling right off a cliff
00:27:39.840 we are we have a net outward migration out of british columbia for the first time in our history
00:27:44.620 it's up to something like 75 000 people a year leaving now net outward and we're not losing
00:27:50.460 we're losing good people right young ambitious people we're not losing drug addicts oh they're
00:27:57.520 still coming we're getting we're losing good people with hopes and dreams and futures and children
00:28:03.580 and we're also losing people with lots of money because they're saying i'm done
00:28:07.500 it's great to finally meet you michelle it's really nice to meet you tamara thank you for
00:28:13.720 everything you've done and thank you for everything that you've done and continue to do i i really
00:28:17.820 appreciate now that you've moved on from uh being a member of parliament that you have a little more
00:28:22.380 freedom to be a little bit more vocal so um we were just discussing um andrew lawton got up in the
00:28:28.400 house of commons the other day and addressed the federal court of appeal ruling upholding justice
00:28:32.940 mosley's appeal and you saw stephen mckinnon's uh reaction and what were your thoughts on that
00:28:38.460 whoo tamara it was a lot it was a lot of emotion so you know stephen mckinnon is a liberal house
00:28:44.800 leader and i can't believe how you've been doing this all day with this behind you then you you are
00:28:49.800 a focused lady i'm just like talking going on behind us okay so in a nutshell what i what i'm so
00:28:56.020 upset about and what's so shocking and you you live this so i just was on the ground experiencing it
00:29:01.700 but every day when i walked through those streets and i saw the families and people who just wanted
00:29:07.960 to go to work right so andrew lawton stood up in the house of commons to your point he said you know
00:29:14.260 will you accept the federal courts of appeal that you were it was illegal what you did the emergency
00:29:18.980 invoking the emergencies act was illegal and steve mckinnon the liberal house leader literally
00:29:24.140 doubled down like he literally doubled down his repeated endorsement of the occupation of this
00:29:30.420 downtown of the disturbance and uh unbelievable annoyance that this created for residents of
00:29:38.240 downtown ottawa and of the fact that it was an unlawful demonstration divided the country even
00:29:44.020 further dismissed the people who left their jobs their families to advocate to go to work and the
00:29:49.200 pushback i have for this you already know this yes but the anger inside of me is why were the people
00:29:56.080 there in the first place why did an occupation happen why did you let that happen and then when
00:30:02.120 they got there when they got there instead of coming out and negotiating and talking he went and
00:30:08.220 hit and it is such a vilification of people whose lives were ruined and i thought a lot about it tamara
00:30:15.960 like i i pulled over i recorded a video i was so angry and i've never posted it but you know what i think
00:30:21.980 it is more than anything it's leadership without any empathy it's leadership that can't fathom that
00:30:29.320 their lives weren't impacted so they're the problem instead of understanding that people lost their jobs
00:30:37.060 they got sick they died they couldn't go visit their mothers in the hospital they couldn't go to work
00:30:43.040 and that's they were planning their own suicides that's something that we heard every single day
00:30:47.740 it's i think that's what's missing and it was kind of like a light bulb moment for me when i saw this
00:30:53.000 and it was such validation right the day that the federal court of appeals said it was illegal we knew
00:30:58.100 it everybody knew it was an overreach everybody knew and it was the day that changed my view of
00:31:04.640 politics and the liberal party because i really thought justin trudeau was going to revoke it after
00:31:10.600 they cleared the streets i was like oh he'll he'll pull it back yeah because i walked to the house of
00:31:16.400 commons that day and there was nothing in the street and not only did he not revoke it he doubled
00:31:21.780 down and he froze people's bank accounts i mean you you're like michelle i know but i think it's just
00:31:30.480 from an outsider's perspective it's it is a leadership that it is so cruel because it has no
00:31:38.700 empathy to understand that your policies just because they didn't hurt you doesn't mean they didn't
00:31:45.600 destroy someone else's life yeah and i think one of the disappointing things like you just mentioned
00:31:50.380 it's like they're being selective on which canadians they're going to support and look after and take
00:31:56.760 care of winners and losers that's right and i mean that i'm and i've always said that especially about
00:32:01.240 justin trudeau because he said some pretty horrible things um during that period um like about should
00:32:07.040 people like me be tolerated and and it just struck me as you know if you're a leader you lead all of
00:32:14.520 your people even if you don't agree with them you don't vilify and demonize a portion of society just
00:32:20.660 because they don't agree with you and you at least try to understand them that's right you at least try
00:32:25.900 to meet with them to understand them because hey he said it best we experienced it differently
00:32:31.580 it's so true i just used that quote today too it's absolutely true well and i think in justin
00:32:38.340 trudeau's case like i i was obviously paying a lot of attention throughout that whole two-year period of
00:32:43.580 the pandemic and he actually wanted to invoke the emergencies act at the beginning of the pandemic
00:32:48.740 so that he could spend what he wanted without having to be accountable you know just to have those
00:32:53.920 powers so i i personally i was i was shocked that he didn't end up invoking it in the end obviously
00:33:01.160 because i was there on the ground and i'm like what is the problem here um but but i but i was
00:33:07.120 not surprised because of the fact that you know he'd been saying that for quite some time who wanted
00:33:12.100 him to invoke it tamara who was the man behind the scenes at the time right mr mark carney that's
00:33:18.320 exactly and i i guess the question i leave for people i know a lot of viewers who watch rebel are
00:33:22.340 already they already understand all this yeah but there's still people i meet every day who are
00:33:27.400 so hateful to the convoy they are so hateful to the people who went there to have their voice heard
00:33:34.560 and i have to say to them you have to ask yourself why why did they go to ottawa like that is the
00:33:41.760 question you need to answer because nobody was listening to them no and how else are you supposed
00:33:46.740 to execute your voice and what you guys did is really something and i i mean i took the heat for it too
00:33:53.280 i got called every name in the book when i first i have a text from one of our city counselors calling
00:33:57.780 me a national embarrassment wow that i'm pathetic and uh she said you know you need to be neutral
00:34:03.900 right and i'm like neutrality when people are can't pay their mortgage yeah yeah like what do
00:34:10.840 what are we doing and at least okay let's find a middle ground let's find some kind of there was
00:34:16.240 nothing there was no middle ground she left in under the weather for a couple days so i was not
00:34:23.240 able to make it here until today but i was watching on twitter what was going on how's it been the last
00:34:30.660 couple days here at the conservative party convention it's been real busy uh we are treated
00:34:36.600 actually like every other media outlet in the riser that we're sitting on right now we're right
00:34:41.500 besides cbc radio canada there's no special treatment for media which is all we ever ask for
00:34:47.140 we just want to be able to do our job we've had access to mps activists it's been a very very busy
00:34:54.640 convention especially with tamara leach here and you know what on a journalistic mission it's hard for
00:35:01.020 her to actually work because everybody wants to stop talk to her thank her and take their picture with
00:35:06.300 her you know she is turning into a real journalist but she's also an ambassador yes for freedom for
00:35:12.520 civil liberties for the truckers and now even for rebel news so i couldn't be prouder and thanks
00:35:17.280 as our senior chief reporter thanks for keeping an eye out to help her grow into the great journalist i
00:35:23.680 know she'll become yeah she was able to sit down with her own mp she was able to sit down with andrew
00:35:30.600 lawton and and discuss the you know her time in the freedom convoy he wrote a book about it he's
00:35:36.860 been really hard on the government in the house of commons for their violation of civil liberties uh
00:35:42.780 we know that that was reaffirmed by three judges just a couple of weeks ago so you know with that
00:35:48.460 decision being levied against the liberals tamara's been a very popular person here at the convention
00:35:55.200 that's right because i think there were some politicians who were maybe risk averse and but
00:36:00.640 now that we know that the actual lawbreakers were the government you know it's funny when i was in
00:36:05.700 davos last week i asked both justin trudeau and christia freeland about that i said how do you feel
00:36:13.000 about being rebuked again by a three-judge panel of the federal court of appeals yeah and both of them
00:36:19.740 were avoiding the issue neither of them would show any compunction so i think tamara leach's star is
00:36:25.720 continuing to rise so rebel has a great deployment here you're here syd fazard is here angelica toy
00:36:32.860 tamara leach and i finally made an appearance um tell me more about the conference itself has there
00:36:38.760 been any big battles any interesting tussles i mean we know that the big thing was 87.4 percent
00:36:46.180 thumbs up for pierre paulia which i sort of thought he would get right some of the media were implying
00:36:50.920 that he was in trouble they don't know this party obviously other than that have there been some big
00:36:55.800 moments you know there was just a few minutes ago there was a policy motion that was passed
00:37:01.740 overwhelmingly by the grassroots to force the cbc if the conservatives ever foreign form government to
00:37:09.940 exist in the free market and it was funny the mps who spoke to it so um gerard deltel spoke against
00:37:18.140 the motion which is peculiar uh he said you know it's necessary for francophones to have access
00:37:25.300 to canadian content that way and you know the the young man who spoke in favor of it was very
00:37:32.140 francophone and he said look there are plenty of french language resources out there that are fair
00:37:38.060 that we don't have to pay for unless we want to so that just passed and then i had i spoke to chris
00:37:44.460 uh billboard chris elston because a motion failed to pass it was very close and it was on affirming the
00:37:54.340 rights of parents to seek uh counseling and therapy for their children to deal with
00:38:01.980 gender dysphoria that doesn't involve gender affirming care or surgeries and that failed
00:38:12.020 because they said it was too divisive which i for me that reads as too we're too frightened to go up
00:38:21.040 against the cbc on that issue well of course it's divisive i mean there couldn't be two more different
00:38:27.180 outcomes that's disappointing you know back to the cbc point for a second the other day
00:38:32.960 i i went to the cbc's home page when iran was just the the marchers the democrat and there was a
00:38:40.440 credible report out of iran that suggested that the regime had murdered more than 30 000 people in two
00:38:47.420 days that is such a shocking number that is it's almost hard to process a small city and i went to
00:38:55.380 the cbc home page and i scrolled all the way down i couldn't find a single story about that there were
00:39:00.840 five stories about minnesota and ice uh the top foreign stories was some guy climbed a tall skyscraper
00:39:10.240 in taiwan that was the world story like why are we like where's the canadian culture at all gerard
00:39:18.560 tell me have said we need it for frank to tell the francophone canadian stories they're talking about
00:39:24.520 minnesota they're talking about trump i i unfortunately follow this hour's 22 minutes
00:39:30.040 the government comedy channel they spent about a quarter million dollars taking their entire team
00:39:35.320 to greenland just to smear trump just have mark critch do his trump impression like it was so cringe
00:39:42.300 and the whole time i'm thinking how on earth is any of this in keeping with their man under the
00:39:48.120 canadian broadcasting act so the fact that there's still a debate in this room over should we get rid
00:39:54.380 of the cbc it it feels really obsolete and why are we even discussing it still it should be unanimous but
00:40:01.400 you're telling me it passed it did pass it passed um we also saw policy resolutions that passed on
00:40:06.700 property rights free speech um on the jordan peterson rule right on professional organizations
00:40:14.240 censoring their people there was some discussion about whether that's provincial jurisdiction or
00:40:19.420 not but it should be part of the party ethos i think to protect the free speech of professionals
00:40:25.640 you know one thing that i've noticed we've got these name tags um you and i are registered um there's
00:40:33.820 also influencers have their own like those are online personalities the pleb is here mark dixon is here
00:40:41.020 jasmine lane is here i'm really excited to see the party reaching out to the online media because
00:40:47.600 social media is the only way you're going to defeat the 1.5 billion dollars here to the cbc
00:40:52.260 well and we know that the federal government also pays influencers to advance their ideas they did it
00:40:57.520 around covid they do it around specific pieces of legislation all the time and now these guys are
00:41:03.120 not government funded they're not funded by the party but they are advancing ideas and by the way this
00:41:09.180 is an overwhelmingly young convention right there's a ton of young people so to bring in the influencers
00:41:14.520 that's pretty smart you know alan fryer who used to be a mainstream media reporter i follow him on twitter
00:41:19.640 he said if i had the choice between a convention of young people this is it or the the boomers who want more
00:41:27.740 free stuff he knows which side he'd be on i thought that was a keen observation in the past i remember
00:41:33.600 when i was a youngster the reform party was always knocked at being old people and that was a real
00:41:40.320 knock that the mainstream media would say now the conservative party is young if you look at the
00:41:44.920 polls young people are far more likely to support conservative than liberal and yet that whole line
00:41:52.440 of criticism that the media party would never make it anymore because it's their friends who are old
00:41:57.640 and entrenched and established i don't know i think it's from what i've just detected today
00:42:05.240 the conference is good but i think people still are grieving in a way the fact that what was going
00:42:12.680 to be a majority government we all watched for a year was snatched away and now might be another
00:42:17.840 three years or it could be very soon yeah you know i was talking to some conservatives in the know i
00:42:25.760 won't say who but there's a real concern that carney could drop the written march right to have an
00:42:32.100 election in april because the americans are headed to midterms and so trump will no longer be outwardly
00:42:38.860 focused on foreign policy and he'll be inwardly campaigning and so mark carney really only has a small
00:42:45.100 window to be the anti-trump elbows up guy to round up all those scared boomer votes all right
00:42:51.220 well if that comes we will register again as a third party election group i can't wait the reason
00:42:59.340 we do that is because if we didn't we would be harassed by elections canada you remember that in 2019
00:43:04.740 i wrote a book criticizing trudeau called the libranos and we had lawn signs promoting the book they
00:43:10.460 had three words on them by the book which was specifically permitted under the law but
00:43:14.780 elections canada chased me for about six years they didn't chase the people's republic of china
00:43:20.240 for bussing in uh teenage foreign nationals in the gta ridings they were busy going after my book so i
00:43:28.520 thought for sure they're going to go after us again especially our big beautiful billboard truck
00:43:33.280 so we're if there is another election sheila we're going to register as a campaign group and you know
00:43:38.740 what i'm totally fine with it because they're requiring us to do that to speak candidly and clearly and we
00:43:44.600 will and in fact i'm sort of excited about getting back into a fight in the last election rebel news
00:43:49.840 targeted two different districts one was my own writing of where yaara sacks the self-hating jew who
00:43:57.160 held hands with mahmoud abbas we had a bit of a campaign there and also manji johari who was a pro
00:44:04.640 regime iranian mp in richmond hill both of them lost right and i think rebel news deserves a little bit
00:44:12.780 of paternity for that so i'm ready to fight again and if the liberals want to have another run in it
00:44:17.680 let's let's give them a run for it well and to be clear we're never campaigning for the conservatives
00:44:22.720 just campaigning against the liberals yeah you know i um rebel news is independent in a number of ways
00:44:31.080 we don't take any government money and there's very few media companies who can say that and also
00:44:35.260 we hold the conservative parties of this country to account when we think that they're slipping we
00:44:40.680 certainly did that in alberta when jason kenney was the premier who was cracking down hard on
00:44:46.140 churches during covet times i remember the sky palace lunch he had well we did it here today when
00:44:53.220 i interviewed billboard chris elston on the gender affirming care resolution that didn't pass and i
00:45:00.560 think that's one of the reasons that we're trusted by our viewers is that they know we're not just going
00:45:04.920 to echo i mean we call doug ford a liberal which is what he is we criticize conservative and i think
00:45:13.140 they know it so some of them are a little scared to be interviewed by us because it's not just going
00:45:16.860 to be softballs i think that's good positioning we're we're right wing we're conservative we're
00:45:21.980 freedom oriented we're all those things but we're in no one's pocket and i like pierre paulian by the
00:45:26.760 way i if i were a party member i for sure would have voted to give him another shot at things i think
00:45:31.620 he can win i think it was a terrible step back that he didn't i have some ideas for how he might
00:45:35.960 do things differently but we're not in his pocket and the fact that they have not yet scheduled a
00:45:42.240 meeting for you to interview him tells me they're a little bit scared of you too sheila and honestly
00:45:47.160 that's where i want to be yeah that's where i want to be because they know i'm going to ask the
00:45:50.980 tough questions and i think our viewers want us to be there too and we're not taking cheap shots at
00:45:55.340 the conservatives we're not being mean or gotchas we are asking ideological questions philosophical
00:46:00.000 questions because there's no point in winning if we're just liberal light right and i think rebel
00:46:05.820 news has helped move the overton window certainly we did during covet times i think we did in alberta
00:46:13.240 i think our criticism of jason kenney led to a premier daniel smith who is the leading conservative
00:46:21.140 thought leader in this country bold on guns bold on uh medical choice bold on free speech
00:46:28.800 so i mean that's a good thing yeah oh we absolutely were and that was hard because
00:46:36.620 jason kenney was a personal friend and certainly an ideological friend when he was a federal cabinet
00:46:39.980 minister he was great but he went from being the federal cabinet minister in charge of religious
00:46:44.500 freedom to the provincial premier in charge of prosecuting churches so we had to tell it like
00:46:50.360 it was and i think we earned some trust with our viewers and we'll take that approach into the
00:46:54.240 next election if it's coming this spring i think we take that approach every day i think we do
00:46:57.780 she's great to see you thanks for holding the form while i was under the weather thanks everybody
00:47:01.360 for tuning in and thanks to our whole team that deployed here including tamara leach our latest
00:47:08.280 addition to rebel news i was just delighted to see her here thanks sheila you got it all right
00:47:13.440 goodbye everybody well that's our show for the day and by the way we're not done tonight we have a
00:47:20.600 reception for rebel news supporters at the james joyce pub i look forward to seeing everybody there
00:47:25.940 until next time on behalf of all of us here at rebel news to you at home good night and keep fighting
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