Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ What's the next thing after transgenderism？

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. I know you're still getting used to the idea of transgenderism,

00:00:04.760 but I got to tell you, there's a new thing out there. Oh, my God. Like, what's next, right?

00:00:10.180 What could possibly be next? Well, there's a new surgery out there. There's a new mental

00:00:15.400 disorder that's being normalized. It'll have all the details for you. And it is so nuts,

00:00:20.560 but really, you can see how inevitable it is. I won't give it away now. I want you to watch the

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00:00:59.500 Tonight, what's the next thing after transgenderism? I've got the mind-boggling answer. It's April 5th, 1.00

00:01:10.540 and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:12.000 You've got it for freedom!

00:01:15.140 Shame on you, you censorious bug! 0.99

00:01:26.860 Feels like we never heard about transgenderism until like five minutes ago. It was so rare. 0.99

00:01:33.540 I remember growing up, there were a couple of Hollywood movies about transvestites,

00:01:39.160 but they were just plot devices. The movie Tootsie. Dustin Hoffman couldn't get ahead

00:01:45.840 in showbiz as a man, so he became a sassy woman and had great success. 0.98

00:01:53.100 Mrs. Doubtfire, same thing. That was a Robin Williams role. A man wanted to spend time with his 0.96

00:01:59.180 kids after a bitter divorce. Again, a plot device and a comedy. The character wasn't actually trans.

00:02:05.660 I think the only glimpse of transgenderism that most people saw until about a decade ago was a

00:02:09.980 glimpse into some gay nightclubs. That's where Madonna got her inspiration for her music video,

00:02:16.400 Vogue, if you remember that song. The style of dancing was called Voguing, but it was an activity.

00:02:23.200 It was a fetish. It was a very adult, very separate scene, a million miles away from children and schools,

00:02:31.600 to state the obvious. And then suddenly it was here, and then suddenly it was everywhere.

00:02:37.600 It was a political decision, by the way. Here's a headline from 2012 when it happens.

00:02:43.040 Here's the NBC story. Being transgender no longer a mental disorder.

00:02:46.680 A-P-A. Transgender people will now be diagnosed with gender dysphoria, which means emotional stress

00:03:04.760 related to gender identity. The American Psychiatric Association has revised its

00:03:10.980 Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, and it no longer lists being transgender as a mental

00:03:18.020 disorder, among other changes announced this past weekend. Transgender people will now be diagnosed

00:03:24.020 with gender dysphoria, which means emotional stress related to gender identity. Gender identity disorder

00:03:30.260 had been listed as a mental disorder since the third edition of the DSM more than 20 years ago.

00:03:36.160 So it was a decision that was announced. There was no new research. It was a political decision.

00:03:43.520 A decision by whom? Well, it was a vote of a small group of trustees of that lobby group,

00:03:49.340 the American Psychiatric Association. Here's another report of it from a gay newspaper. They said, 0.57

00:03:56.940 the American Psychiatric Association has voted to eliminate the term gender identity disorder and

00:04:03.080 replace it with gender dysphoria when diagnosing people who are transgender. The board of trustees

00:04:08.460 of the APA meeting in Arlington, Virginia on Saturday approved the change as part of the soon-to-be

00:04:14.240 published fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, DSM,

00:04:19.940 the definitive guide to psychiatry used by mental health professionals in the U.S. and worldwide.

00:04:25.440 So it was a vote. I didn't know you could just vote for something to become an illness or vote for

00:04:32.660 something to make it not an illness and who gets to vote and in what country and how many and like,

00:04:39.960 it's just, did you know that that's how it works? Who paid them and who lobbied them or anything?

00:04:46.220 It just was done and then it was just announced and now you're living in that world.

00:04:50.360 Hey, I saw this video for real this morning. This is a criminal lawyer named Stephanie Mueller

00:04:57.920 in Seattle. This is 100% real. I know the reporter who filmed it.

00:05:04.420 My comment about my client, I just met her. She's really nice. She's really smart. She sounds like

00:05:26.240 she's got the right idea about things. I really support what she's up to and I think it's fabulous.

00:05:31.160 How about that? God, do you, she's accused of, what is it, criminal trespass?

00:05:35.720 In the first degree, yes. Is she innocent or guilty?

00:05:39.580 She's innocent, of course. She's innocent, okay. Well, she's caught on video being arrested and 0.91

00:05:44.640 protesting and allegedly protesting. So I'm trying to get all sides. So I want to-

00:05:48.460 My client has pled not guilty. My name is Stephanie Mueller. I'm in the directory for

00:05:53.560 the Washington State Bar Association. You can look me up. Okay, Stephanie, thank you for your time.

00:05:57.960 At this point, your client is being arraigned though. It's all just happened. Her hearing is

00:06:03.980 over. Got it. It's done. All right. Do you know when her next court date is? I do. Do you,

00:06:09.660 I'd like to maybe just keep tabs if they're, uh-huh. I think that's a great idea. Could you tell me

00:06:15.340 when that is? No. Take care. Thank you, Stephanie. Yeah, can I say something obvious? That's not

00:06:21.800 actually a woman. That's a man. But here's something that I think is also obvious. That's

00:06:30.100 not a man even dressed up as a woman. That's not Tootsie or Mrs. Doubtfire. That's someone dressing

00:06:38.540 up as a bizarre caricature of a woman, an objectified, sexualized mockery of what a woman is.

00:06:48.120 No woman looks like that or would present like that even if they did have the underlying geometry 1.00

00:06:55.340 like that. It's like that teacher that David Menzies has reported on named Busty Lemieux.

00:07:02.440 That's the nickname with the extreme prosthetic breasts. That's not a woman. That's not someone 1.00

00:07:08.880 trying to look like a woman. That's not psychologically normal to do that. That's an extreme deranged 1.00

00:07:14.360 fetish of a man pretending to be a woman. That is a mental illness. I don't care what a vote in 1.00

00:07:19.760 Arlington, Virginia 12 years ago said. It's absurd. It's a dare. It's a challenge to all norms. It would

00:07:26.960 be like if a female to male transgender person dressed up with a crazy two-foot-long fake penis 1.00

00:07:33.580 under their pants or something and just trotted around a courthouse or a school and demanded that 0.99

00:07:38.080 you call her a man and that you pretend that's what men look like or what men do. Tootsie and

00:07:43.780 Mrs. Doubtfire didn't force you to call them women. They tried to be so much like women that you 1.00

00:07:48.580 couldn't tell the difference, that you actually thought they were women and treated them as such. 1.00

00:07:52.400 But this Stephanie Mueller and Busty Lemieux aren't trying to convince you. They're doing the opposite,

00:07:58.480 actually. They're trying to force you against your will and against your judgment, against your

00:08:03.080 instincts, to say, yes ma'am, you really are a woman. I accept that. I'll call you by your pronouns

00:08:10.560 she, her, and I'll pretend this is all really normal. I'll participate in your sexual fantasy by 0.99

00:08:16.980 affirming it. And then that's not enough, of course. They demand access to women's only places like 1.00

00:08:23.760 bathrooms and swimming pool changing rooms. We see a lot of that. Even men getting into women's

00:08:31.460 prisons by saying they're trans, even sex criminals saying they're women so they can get put into 0.53

00:08:36.960 prison with women. This is a million miles away from the obscure gay dance club scene of 30 years 1.00

00:08:43.480 ago that Madonna emulated in her music video Vogue. Just 12 years ago, a vote by some clinical doctors

00:08:51.460 at some meeting in Virginia suddenly waved a magic wand and all of this became normalized.

00:08:56.360 And now Justin Trudeau has ordered our army bases to put tampon dispensers in men's bathrooms at

00:09:04.880 Canadian Forces bases. And, and God forbid you say anything about any of this, you'll be prosecuted

00:09:11.100 by a human rights commission. So what's next? I mean, really, I've told you nothing new in the last

00:09:16.980 five minutes, but what's next? Cause something's next. Well, here's what's next. It's a story in

00:09:24.120 the national post. The headline is Quebec man has two healthy fingers amputated to relieve body

00:09:32.720 integrity dysphoria. Um, it's not the first time amputation has been used as a treatment for the

00:09:42.160 rare condition. Yeah. I don't think it's going to be rare for very long. Do you? Do you see though,

00:09:48.520 they called, they called that a treatment. They said cutting off perfectly healthy fingers is a

00:09:53.880 treatment. Well, why wouldn't it be cutting off? I I'm so, so gross. I don't even like to say cutting

00:09:59.140 off the breasts of women to, to transition to become trans men or cutting off a man's penis to 1.00

00:10:06.040 transition and be a trans woman. That's insane also. And now it's called a treatment, a gender 1.00

00:10:13.820 affirming medical care is what they call it. This guy just had his two fingers cut off as a

00:10:19.360 affirming care as a treatment. I read the whole article. I don't want to read that much of it to

00:10:24.420 you. I will gag if I, if I do, I'm sorry. I don't have the stomach for this. The story talks about a man

00:10:30.760 who had this mental illness and the story reports, quote, a surgeon at his local hospital agreed to

00:10:39.580 an elective amputation. Those are two words that should never go together. An elective amputation

00:10:46.440 in what is being called the first described case of digits amputation for body integrity dysphoria or

00:10:54.440 BID, a rare and complex condition characterized by an intense desire to amputate a perfectly healthy

00:11:00.260 body part, such as an arm or leg. You know that, that medical proverb, the motto of the profession

00:11:06.960 is do no harm, right? Do no harm. But once you, once you have agreed to cut off body parts

00:11:14.960 for sexual dysphoria, why wouldn't you cut off fingers? 1.00

00:11:20.440 Is body integrity dysphoria still a mental illness or did, or did an obscure committee of the

00:11:26.780 American Psychiatric Association have a vote one weekend and vote to make it a lifestyle

00:11:32.040 or an identity protected by the Human Rights Commission, no doubt? And maybe your schools

00:11:39.040 will start showing your kids books about choosing their bodies and not feeling like they're in the

00:11:46.540 right bodies because they're not meant to have 10 fingers. Are your fingers bothering you?

00:11:53.660 Well, we can do something about that. Just don't tell your parents. I know that sounds nuts.

00:12:01.660 But isn't that what we're doing right now about gender dysphoria? Stay with us for more. 0.98

00:12:08.720 One of the things that always bothered me about both the way Justin Trudeau talked about the

00:12:24.540 trucker convoy and the way the regime media did is they called it an illegal occupation or an illegal

00:12:31.140 protest. They used the word illegal to describe the entire manifestation of people, but that's

00:12:37.580 actually not true. There's no such thing as deeming a protest illegal. I suppose you could read the

00:12:43.860 riot act and say anyone in this area is guilty if they don't immediately disperse of a crime. I mean,

00:12:51.760 I suppose that's one way to deem a protest illegal, but that didn't happen. The emergencies act,

00:12:58.160 when it was invoked, specifically excluded peaceful protests. In fact, that was an essential part of both

00:13:06.480 the emergencies act and its invocation. So whenever people said the truckers were illegal, that was a

00:13:13.780 lie. In the case of the media, they might just simply not have known and they went along with the

00:13:19.220 flow. But when the government did it, they absolutely knew what they were saying was false.

00:13:24.280 And the reason I say that is that police, especially the interim police chief in the city of Ottawa,

00:13:31.060 he tried to terrify ordinary Canadians into not donating towards the truckers. You may recall,

00:13:38.700 there was a large Give, Send, Go donation crowdfund. $10 million was raised. Under political pressure,

00:13:46.240 they froze those funds. They briefly threatened to donate it to causes of their own choosing

00:13:52.040 before they finally refunded them. Then Give, Send, Go, a U.S.-based, Christian-based fundraising

00:14:00.420 engine raised $12 million. And that was hit with an order as well by Ontario courts.

00:14:08.760 And the trouble is the list of names on the Give, Send, Go donation was hacked and leaked a criminal act.

00:14:17.120 In fact, there was a hacker who boasted about it online with some proof. Take a look at this.

00:14:24.580 Nothing scares me. Nothing.

00:14:29.760 Yes, I doxed the truckers. I did it. It was me. I hacked Give, Send, Go, baby. And I'd do it again.

00:14:37.180 I'm doing it a hundred times. I did it. I did it. Come at me. What are you going to do?

00:14:50.820 What are you going to do to me? Huh?

00:14:52.900 I hacked Epic Hosting. I hacked Parler. I hacked Gab. I hacked Truth Social. I hacked Go, Give, Send, Go.

00:15:10.620 I don't care.

00:15:12.360 I'm, you can literally put my name into the news tab on Google and you can find everything I've done.

00:15:26.740 I am literally in every mainstream media publication for the things that I do.

00:15:32.300 I'm not an unknown actor. I'm literally a famous fucking cyber terrorist. 0.99

00:15:38.440 And you think that you could scare me? 0.99

00:15:44.900 Well, there's no way that hacker would be able to boast about a hack and claim he had the approval of police and simply not be arrested if it weren't true.

00:15:55.740 And it dovetails with the threats by Ottawa's police chief at the time to hunt down anyone who dared to give money to the truckers.

00:16:04.840 Here's that odious, odious clip of a disgraceful cop. Take a look at this.

00:16:10.180 As I indicated earlier, we will have the opportunity to review all of those files.

00:16:14.080 There are complaint mechanisms for people to enter into if they feel that there is excessive use of force by members of our police service.

00:16:22.880 What I will also say is we have been here for three weeks.

00:16:27.920 I have been at this podium for the last five days imploring people to leave, asking them to get out of our streets.

00:16:35.460 This occupation is over. We have advised them that if they peacefully leave, they may go home. That still exists.

00:16:43.420 We also indicated that we would escalate and forcefully remove people from the streets if they did not comply.

00:16:50.400 Some of that is what you're seeing.

00:16:52.180 So I will stand here today again and say this demonstration is over. Go home.

00:16:57.640 If you don't go home, we will remove you from the streets.

00:17:00.260 Well, wouldn't you know it, in the hacked list of thousands of donors was one police officer himself, Constable Michael Briscoe of Windsor.

00:17:12.700 He donated 50 bucks to the peaceful protest, a legal protest.

00:17:17.140 He did so privately. He did so lawfully.

00:17:20.000 But he was targeted by his police force.

00:17:22.760 He was charged with discreditable conduct.

00:17:27.240 And we're here to talk to his lawyer who's fighting for him.

00:17:31.020 James Manson of the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms joins us now via Skype.

00:17:35.640 James, great to see you. Thanks for joining us.

00:17:38.040 Did I accurately tell the story of Constable Briscoe?

00:17:42.780 He's just an ordinary guy, donated 50 bucks on one of these completely legal crowd funds to a completely legal protest.

00:17:51.100 And yet for two years now, he's been prosecuted by his own police force.

00:17:55.740 Is that right?

00:17:57.060 That is right, Ezra.

00:17:59.040 Thanks again for having me on the show here today.

00:18:02.640 Michael Briscoe is one of several police officers who were, I guess, targeted because they gave money to the, you know, the Freedom Convoy protests.

00:18:15.940 And so what we have, what basically happened was, as you said a few minutes ago, Ezra, somebody hacked into the Give, Send, Go database illegally, of course, and they found this donor information and they put it on the Internet somewhere.

00:18:33.260 What happened apparently was the OPP, the Ontario Provincial Police, somehow got themselves this information.

00:18:43.960 And what happened apparently was they began to contact police forces around the province, among them the Windsor Police Service.

00:18:51.680 That's where Michael Briscoe was a police officer, still is a police officer.

00:18:55.500 And they said to, you know, police organizations like Windsor Police, they said, hey, we have this name here and it looks like there's a Michael Briscoe that's on your police force, so maybe you might want to investigate this.

00:19:08.540 And so they did.

00:19:09.740 And so what happens, just so that the viewers understand here, is that, number one, Ezra, it is, as you say, totally legal and proper for a police officer to donate to a political cause.

00:19:25.360 Now, Constable Briscoe, in this case, was on leave.

00:19:29.720 He was on unpaid leave.

00:19:31.500 Why?

00:19:32.420 He didn't want to take the COVID vaccine, and so they put him on unpaid leave.

00:19:35.940 And while he was on unpaid leave, of course, the convoy came to Ottawa, and he was very interested.

00:19:42.100 He had nothing else to do at that point.

00:19:44.080 So he was motivated to donate $50.

00:19:48.540 And so he gave that through the online web portal, whatever you do.

00:19:52.920 And the regulation says that you can do that.

00:19:55.840 Sorry, this is the regulations under the Police Services Act.

00:19:59.640 This is the law that governs what police do in Ontario.

00:20:03.620 So anyways, the regulations say that you can donate as a police officer, as long as you don't donate it as the officer.

00:20:12.860 So it can be Michael Briscoe, but not Officer Michael Briscoe.

00:20:16.520 So ultimately, what happened was, he did that.

00:20:20.520 And it was Michael Briscoe.

00:20:22.160 He donated in his own name or as a cop?

00:20:24.440 Which did he do?

00:20:25.180 In his own name.

00:20:26.760 That's right.

00:20:27.340 Okay, so he didn't lend any authority to this?

00:20:30.620 He didn't claim this was a police activity on his part.

00:20:33.300 He was on leave anyways.

00:20:35.080 Correct.

00:20:35.420 So they charged him, I understand, with discreditable conduct.

00:20:39.440 Is that right?

00:20:40.520 Right.

00:20:40.900 So what happened then was the OPP got this information.

00:20:45.200 They funneled it somehow to the Windsor Police Service.

00:20:47.960 Then it gets transferred to an investigating officer.

00:20:51.760 In this case, her name was Sergeant Leah McFadden.

00:20:53.860 Sergeant McFadden, Sergeant McFadden, then goes into an investigation phase.

00:20:58.420 And what she does is she downloads and she looks at 20 or so newspaper articles.

00:21:05.780 And these newspaper articles are the ones that we all remember from back in the day when Chief of Police slowly in Ottawa and, you know, Premier Ford, Prime Minister Trudeau, all these official people were calling the protests illegal.

00:21:22.860 Some people referred to it as a siege.

00:21:25.500 Other people referred to it as lawless behavior, things like that.

00:21:29.420 None of that was true.

00:21:30.600 So, Ezra, I totally agree with you on what you said a few minutes ago.

00:21:36.720 You can't just deem something to be illegal in this province if you're a public official.

00:21:42.000 That's called tyranny.

00:21:43.220 We don't have tyranny in this province.

00:21:45.600 Maybe a judge could do it by making an order if somebody actually asks the judge to do so.

00:21:51.860 Perhaps Parliament itself could declare something illegal by law.

00:21:56.120 Otherwise, you're talking about maybe the Riot Act, as you said, as well.

00:22:01.100 None of that happened, of course.

00:22:02.760 So, there was no declaration of illegal activity.

00:22:06.220 There still hasn't been at all in this province.

00:22:09.720 So, anyway, she, Sergeant McFadden, she reads these articles and she says, well, good enough for me.

00:22:17.260 Everybody is claiming that this is an illegal protest.

00:22:20.420 Therefore, it's illegal.

00:22:21.360 Therefore, Michael Briscoe arguably donated money to an illegal activity, period.

00:22:28.100 That was the extent of her investigation.

00:22:30.080 And so then, what she was allowed to do, Ezra, is she was allowed to drag Constable Briscoe into an interview on the record.

00:22:40.620 And he did not have the ability to refuse questions.

00:22:43.740 You have to answer the questions when you're in an interview for disciplinary purposes.

00:22:48.100 The reason that you don't have the right to remain silent, as you do in a criminal context, is because this wasn't a criminal issue.

00:22:55.520 He wasn't being charged criminally.

00:22:57.720 He was being charged with, you know, discreditable conduct under the Code of Conduct for police officers.

00:23:04.400 That's just a disciplinary hearing that could maybe, you know, cost you your job or something, but it's not going to land you in jail.

00:23:11.120 So, there is no right to remain silent, if you will.

00:23:14.860 So, he had to answer the questions.

00:23:16.580 The only reason she knew about all this is because she downloaded, because the OPP, pardon me, downloaded the illegally hacked information.

00:23:27.420 That sounds like discredible conduct to me.

00:23:29.920 I think whoever downloaded it in the OPP should face discredible conduct.

00:23:33.940 And maybe Officer McFadden, her conduct was discredible for using stolen private information.

00:23:39.880 I'd like to file a complaint against Officer McFadden.

00:23:42.080 Well, one of the things that we tried to do, and we're still trying to do, in the course of our legal representation of Constable Briscoe,

00:23:52.740 is to advance a claim of abuse of process.

00:23:56.000 And so, it's a complicated subject, and there's a lot of details, but basically, there is a way in the law to get these types of things thrown out.

00:24:07.240 If you can show that the justice system is thrown into disrepute, if it's allowed to go forward.

00:24:14.880 And one of the arguments I'm trying to make, and now we're actually taking this case into the court system.

00:24:20.860 So, just so that the viewers understand, we haven't been in court about this yet.

00:24:25.860 This entire investigation culminated in a hearing before a retired superintendent of the police board himself, or the police force himself.

00:24:36.020 And he, that person doesn't have to be a trained lawyer.

00:24:39.580 So, you know, they're used to the process, but they're not necessarily trained in the vagaries of evidence and all these things.

00:24:47.380 And just so that the viewers understand, relying on newspaper articles is not admissible normally in court.

00:24:57.340 That's called hearsay.

00:24:59.240 And usually, you can't base a conclusion on hearsay evidence.

00:25:05.980 In this system, you can.

00:25:07.900 The rules are a bit relaxed, and that's why we are where we are.

00:25:11.520 But anyways, ultimately, we were arguing all of these things as appeal counsel.

00:25:20.440 So, what happened was, Sergeant, sorry, the Constable Briscoe's hearing was before this hearing officer.

00:25:27.500 We were not counsel for him at the time.

00:25:30.080 Did he have lawyers at the time, or did he go on his own?

00:25:33.680 He had a lawyer.

00:25:35.460 For reasons I'm not sure, the lawyer did not raise any of this stuff.

00:25:40.080 He didn't really raise the abusive process argument.

00:25:42.880 He didn't complain about the way that this evidence came into the hands of the police.

00:25:49.260 Maybe had we been involved, it might have been different.

00:25:51.680 But anyways, just so the viewers understand, when you're taking a case to the appeal,

00:25:56.440 so what happened next was we got involved, and there's an appeal process from the hearing officer's ruling.

00:26:02.920 What happened was the hearing officer found him to have committed discreditable conduct.

00:26:07.980 He basically went hook, line, and sinker with respect to the illegal activity.

00:26:13.260 Didn't really care about the hearsay nature of the newspaper articles.

00:26:18.220 Didn't care about the fact that nobody in those articles has the authority to declare anything illegal anyway.

00:26:24.920 Didn't care about any of that.

00:26:26.900 According to the CBC, it was illegal, and that's good enough for the Windsor police, I guess.

00:26:31.480 Right. So ultimately, he just basically convicted Constable Briscoe of discreditable conduct

00:26:40.340 and ordered him to pay basically 80 hours of salary.

00:26:44.780 He had to forfeit two weeks' pay, essentially, for making a $50 donation, which he had every right to do.

00:26:51.940 So we took it to an appeal, and one of the appeal arguments was, hey, this entire thing smells.

00:26:59.100 This entire thing should never have happened.

00:27:01.640 It should never have come to light at all because nobody investigated, you know, where the illegally hacked information came from.

00:27:09.820 Who did it? Why was that?

00:27:11.480 Why are we relying on nothing but hearsay evidence?

00:27:14.260 There's got to be a limit to that.

00:27:15.520 We were making all these points.

00:27:16.700 The appeal committee, it's a body called the Ontario Civilian Police Commission.

00:27:23.180 It basically is an appeal body.

00:27:24.940 They were not very interested in the arguments either.

00:27:27.960 We had some other arguments as well, including whether or not people were considering Constable Briscoe's charter rights appropriately,

00:27:38.760 because in a case like this, you have to do that.

00:27:40.760 Essentially, none of my points were really accepted by the commission at the final analysis.

00:27:49.960 And so what we've done, Ezra, is we've now launched into the court process.

00:27:54.440 And so there is a way to take the appeal decision from this commission into court.

00:27:59.940 There is a court called the Divisional Court in Ontario.

00:28:03.180 They are a panel of three judges.

00:28:05.300 They, you know, different judges sit as panels of three judges.

00:28:08.400 And we will be taking it again.

00:28:10.440 And we're going to be putting it before the Divisional Court.

00:28:14.120 We're going to be saying again that this was an outrageous abusive process,

00:28:19.380 that Constable Briscoe should never have even been called into that interview,

00:28:23.420 because that evidence that was setting it all up was wrong.

00:28:27.540 Yeah, it was basically stolen property.

00:28:30.760 That list was stolen property.

00:28:33.240 It was violated as privacy rights.

00:28:35.680 There's the hearsay and there's the general BS that this was illegal because the CBC said so.

00:28:41.400 There's so many lawyers here.

00:28:43.060 And, you know, I don't know Constable Briscoe.

00:28:45.780 He sounds like my kind of guy if he was a conscientious objector on the forced vax

00:28:51.220 and then chipping in 50 bucks to the truckers seems like a good egg,

00:28:54.540 especially if he was unemployed at the time.

00:28:56.820 Right.

00:28:57.260 But, I mean, I'd like him to be saved from the 80 hours fine.

00:29:05.020 But this is really about the reputation of the police.

00:29:08.040 I think that in the last five years, the police have murdered their own reputations.

00:29:13.700 They've been excessively partisan.

00:29:15.380 They've run political errands.

00:29:17.080 We're seeing now in the foreign influence investigations that police and other security services like CSIS

00:29:25.120 doctored their reports to suit the liberals.

00:29:28.200 I think if the police want the trust of Canadians across the spectrum,

00:29:34.140 left wing, right wing, liberal, conservative, whatever, they have to be nonpartisan.

00:29:38.260 And this is clearly a political vendetta against someone who embarrassed the government.

00:29:45.380 You know, yes, I want Constable Briscoe to be made whole here and to be redeemed and vindicated.

00:29:50.420 But much more than that, I want the Windsor Police and the OPP, the Ontario Provincial Police,

00:29:55.240 to remove the stain of partisanship and abuse from them.

00:29:58.560 That's what's important.

00:30:00.280 I agree, Ezra.

00:30:01.240 And let's just have a thought for a moment about the rank-and-file members of these police forces

00:30:07.240 across the country.

00:30:08.280 You can't tell me that they agree with what's going on.

00:30:11.420 You can't tell me that even a small percentage of them do.

00:30:15.140 Maybe a small percentage of them do.

00:30:16.840 But I would bet you the vast majority just want to do their jobs, protect their communities,

00:30:21.060 protect the citizens, do the jobs that they were, you know, signed up to do.

00:30:26.520 I mean, maybe some of them want to run these investigations against people for these political

00:30:31.540 purposes, as you're alleging, which may in fact be true.

00:30:34.340 But I bet you the vast majority just want to do their jobs without any of this nonsense.

00:30:39.800 And I certainly, as a citizen, want to have a police force that is nonpartisan, that is

00:30:44.940 going to be there to have my back when I need something to happen, and otherwise butt out.

00:30:51.600 Yeah.

00:30:52.140 You know, I think that's pretty reasonable to expect a police force.

00:30:57.360 You know, so many institutions drove their best people out.

00:31:01.260 I mean, again, I've never met this cop, but he's 15 years on the force, so he's got some

00:31:05.900 experience.

00:31:06.920 He's safe hands, as they say.

00:31:09.120 He's an independent thinker.

00:31:10.520 He thinks about freedom and privacy.

00:31:12.860 That's why he was an objector to the force vaccine.

00:31:15.800 You're purging guys like this.

00:31:17.500 You're punishing guys like this, and you're promoting the woke political police.

00:31:21.820 That's a reason why institutions, first of all, have trouble recruiting new members, and

00:31:27.900 second of all, have trouble maintaining the support of the public.

00:31:31.380 The common sense rules of modern policing that Sir Robert Peel rolled out over a century

00:31:38.860 ago, I can sum them up in one sentence.

00:31:41.520 You need the support of the community.

00:31:43.340 Only in a totalitarian regime can you police against the will of the people.

00:31:49.340 In democracies like Canada, the police must do the will of the people for them to succeed,

00:31:55.680 and that is that we're losing that.

00:31:59.600 When do we expect the next hearing to be here, either of the appeal for your conviction or

00:32:06.100 for your proactive lawsuit on abusive process, have either of those, the wheels of justice,

00:32:13.100 started turning yet?

00:32:14.540 Yes.

00:32:15.060 Yes, they have.

00:32:16.060 So the appeal process before that commission is over, it's finished.

00:32:20.060 Now, the actual mechanism is called a judicial review.

00:32:24.860 It's not technically an appeal.

00:32:27.160 It's like an appeal.

00:32:28.240 And that's at the divisional court.

00:32:29.940 That's correct.

00:32:30.840 Have you filed that yet?

00:32:31.760 We have.

00:32:32.560 Yeah, we filed it about a couple of weeks ago.

00:32:34.840 And what now needs to happen is the people on the other side, so the police force and

00:32:42.440 the actual commission itself is actually a party in the case.

00:32:46.780 So they need to get their wheels turning, and they have to put together the record of

00:32:52.100 all the evidence that was put before the commission and the hearing officer.

00:32:55.900 That's on them to do that.

00:32:57.740 So anyway, we have been in contact with them.

00:33:00.680 It looks like we're aiming for a hearing somewhere probably closer to the end of this year.

00:33:07.300 It's going to be a while.

00:33:08.840 Well, keep us posted on that, because if it's an open proceeding, if it's like in a courtroom,

00:33:14.120 I think we'll definitely want to send a reporter there.

00:33:16.820 This is of interest to our people, not just because we covered the trucker convoy so carefully

00:33:22.460 when it happened, but because of the issues we've been talking about.

00:33:25.520 Well, listen, I wish you well, and I salute the JCCF.

00:33:29.960 That's the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedom.

00:33:32.360 By the way, I don't think I've mentioned it to our viewers yet.

00:33:35.900 I've actually been nominated for the—they have an annual award, so I'm delighted I should

00:33:43.260 disclose that, because, I mean, I've always been a fan of the JCCF, and we've done journalism

00:33:47.540 about them for 10 years, but it's a special honour that they gave me a shout-out this year,

00:33:53.860 so that's great.

00:33:55.320 Absolutely.

00:33:56.160 Ezra, just to interject, we are very proud to honour you this year.

00:34:00.200 I'll be seeing you at the George Jonas dinner in June here in Toronto, and we're also extremely

00:34:07.240 grateful for all the contributions you make to freedom and to, you know, shining lights

00:34:11.620 in dark places.

00:34:12.540 It's awesome.

00:34:13.340 Well, you're very nice to say it in so many ways.

00:34:15.700 We model what we do after the JCCF.

00:34:19.260 You guys were the first, you're the biggest, and you make the most difference, so thank

00:34:23.340 you for your kind words.

00:34:25.380 Good to catch up with you.

00:34:26.500 Thank you for the update, and please do keep us in touch, because if this moves forward through

00:34:31.140 the court system, we want to do some journalism on it.

00:34:34.580 Absolutely.

00:34:35.220 Will do, Ezra.

00:34:35.820 Thanks.

00:34:36.300 All right.

00:34:36.740 Thank you.

00:34:37.260 There you have it, James Manson from the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedom.

00:34:40.340 Stay with us.

00:34:40.940 More ahead.

00:34:45.700 Hey, welcome back.

00:34:54.080 Your letters to me about my chat with Sheila Gunn-Reed yesterday.

00:34:58.020 Chris Proudlove says, how about we not let anyone not born in Canada serve in public office?

00:35:04.440 I think that's too extreme, but the United States has a rule, as you may know, that you

00:35:09.320 have to be born an American to be president.

00:35:14.060 I think, you know, in Canada, Sir John A. Macdonald, for example, our first prime minister,

00:35:20.260 was born in Scotland, and in fact, several other of our prime ministers were born in the

00:35:25.900 UK.

00:35:26.120 I think that the problem here is Justin Trudeau sold out his loyalty to Canada, literally for

00:35:35.340 cash and for votes.

00:35:37.560 That astonishing story of a busload of high school kids who weren't Canadians coming in 1.00

00:35:43.220 from another district to vote for him in a liberal nomination is so astonishing.

00:35:47.220 You know, the fact that Handong, an ethnically Chinese Canadian, was the beneficiary of that, 0.99

00:35:56.380 but it could have been anyone.

00:35:57.460 I mean, Justin Trudeau was born in Canada, but he was, in fact, the largest beneficiary

00:36:03.860 of all this.

00:36:04.380 So yeah, they got this conservative candidate knocked out, and they got that liberal candidate

00:36:09.840 put in, but the net effect was to benefit a born-in-Canada white man named Justin Trudeau,

00:36:16.280 which is why he turned a blind eye to it, which is why he turns a blind eye to Iran's 0.62

00:36:21.500 mucking about on the Hamas stuff, because he wants the Muslim vote, and he thinks that

00:36:27.040 there are enough Muslim radicals in Canada to offset the Jewish vote he's losing. 0.52

00:36:31.140 It's so obvious.

00:36:33.620 Someone with the nickname WS2102 says,

00:36:35.820 Why wasn't this dealt with in 2020 when it was common knowledge?

00:36:39.420 Driving through the rearview mirror is pointless.

00:36:41.700 Nothing comes from these things.

00:36:42.880 Well, I'm going to disagree with you.

00:36:44.700 We're learning a lot about warnings that were given, and the warnings were given to the liberals,

00:36:50.460 and the liberals refused to publish or do anything about it until after the election.

00:36:54.660 We're actually learning about the kind of corruption that is only alleged, but now it's being proved.

00:37:00.920 So something is coming from it.

00:37:02.260 Yes, we should have acted earlier, but I don't think we had the kind of evidence now of the absolute trickery

00:37:10.200 that CSIS and the RCMP and the rest of the alphabet soup agencies engaged in at the direction of Trudeau,

00:37:17.160 and that's the problem.

00:37:19.400 When Jody Wilson-Raybould was the Justice Minister, you can disagree with her ideology on a number of things,

00:37:24.100 and I do, for example, but I think she was ethical enough that she would have made better decisions,

00:37:32.320 for example, with the Trucker Emergencies Act.

00:37:34.540 I don't think she would have gone ahead with that.

00:37:36.800 I use her as an example because Justin Trudeau replaced her with David Lamedi,

00:37:41.580 who would do anything for Trudeau, including break the law.

00:37:44.620 Justin Trudeau has installed within the government, in the RCMP, in CSIS, in Cabinet,

00:37:50.420 throughout the government, installed people who were loyal to him, not loyal to their office or to the people.

00:37:59.100 That's, I think, one of the reasons why Trudeau himself has never been charged with various offenses

00:38:03.140 that could rationally be put to him.

00:38:05.020 I think the RCMP, in particular, has disgraced themselves.

00:38:11.960 Remember, a lot of this stuff we're only reading about because it was leaked by some spy

00:38:18.380 who said, we've got to tell the world about this because Trudeau's covering it up.

00:38:23.020 I think it's incredible, and I'm glad Sheila's covering it closely,

00:38:25.680 and you should follow her reports on our website.

00:38:28.880 That's our show for today.

00:38:30.380 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:38:33.200 to you at home, good night.

00:38:35.020 And keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - April 06, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ What's the next thing after transgenderism？

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