Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ What’s the real problem in Tumbler Ridge, B.C.？

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. I just want to talk about disinformation. That's normally the accusation

00:00:05.580 that the government makes of independent journalists they don't like, but holy smokes

00:00:09.840 has there been disinformation over the last two days by official sources about the murderer at

00:00:16.140 Tumblr Ridge. Just incredible. I'll take you through some of the craziest moments.

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00:00:50.320 Tonight, what's the real problem in Tumblr Ridge, B.C.? It's February 12th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:59.200 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:11.540 Hey, we're talking about something really dark, but permit me to show you two quick jokes from the late 0.79

00:01:18.600 comedian Norm MacDonald. It's a very dry sense of humor. Not everyone gets it, but I think he was

00:01:25.220 sort of a subversive conservative in his own way. Here are two jokes, and they're actually in a way

00:01:31.040 structured the identical way. In a way, they're the same joke, and they're making the same point.

00:01:36.780 Here's the first one. Norm delivered it so deadpan that neither of his guests even realized

00:01:43.160 he was joking. It's a 9-11 kind of joke.

00:01:46.380 Well, I can't say my friend's name, but he said his biggest fear

00:01:50.700 is

00:01:53.780 that ISIS or some terrorist group like that 0.98

00:02:00.880 would get a hold of a dirty bomb 0.99

00:02:03.520 and explode it over a major city within the United States 0.99

00:02:08.540 and kill tens of millions of people, because then 0.99

00:02:15.860 the blowback against innocent Muslims would be absolutely terrible. 0.98

00:02:23.500 Now, here's the same sort of joke, but on a smaller scale, talking about the terrible revelations 0.99

00:02:30.420 that fellow comedian Bill Cosby had drugged and raped women. Again, not the sort of thing most

00:02:38.220 comedians would joke about, but he's making the same point, isn't he?

00:02:42.100 Cosby's legacy will be hurt?

00:02:45.460 Yeah.

00:02:46.080 You do, huh? I mean, there was a comedian, Patton Oswalt, he told me,

00:02:49.400 I think the worst part of the Cosby thing was the hypocrisy, and I disagreed.

00:02:55.800 You disagreed with that?

00:02:57.060 Yeah. I thought it was the raping. 0.96

00:03:01.100 That's my feeling, most rapists are hypocrites. 1.00

00:03:04.260 You don't meet many and go, I like raping, and I know it's not politically correct, but by God, 0.99

00:03:10.420 people go, well, he's not being a hypocrite, and that's the worst part. 0.99

00:03:13.900 If you missed it, the real problem with ISIS dropping a dirty bomb over New York 1.00

00:03:18.300 isn't the political blowback on Muslims, it's that ISIS dropped a dirty bomb over New York. 1.00

00:03:24.860 And the real problem with Bill Cosby raping women isn't the hypocrisy, it's the raping. 0.99

00:03:31.640 Now, maybe you see a theme here, so let me ask you, and by you, I mean the bulk of the 0.96

00:03:35.600 regime media, I don't actually mean you, what do you think is the most important part of the story

00:03:40.520 out of Tumblr Ridge, B.C.?

00:03:42.300 Is it the mass murder committed by a drugged-up psychopath, or is it some people call that

00:03:48.820 drugged-up psychopath he, instead of his chosen pronoun she?

00:03:53.480 What's the real problem here?

00:03:56.140 Watch this extraordinary clip from Sky News.

00:03:59.620 It's a couple minutes long, but you've just got to watch it.

00:04:01.880 I just kept watching, and watching, and watching.

00:04:05.400 I kept waiting for the punchline to drop.

00:04:08.960 It never comes.

00:04:10.080 Take a look.

00:04:10.780 A deadly shooting at a secondary school in a remote part of Canada.

00:04:15.380 It's not what you would expect.

00:04:17.160 The attacker was described as a female in a dress with brown hair.

00:04:21.660 So here's what we know about a tragic day in a place called Tumblr Ridge.

00:04:26.500 It took police two minutes to respond to calls from the local high school, but they weren't

00:04:32.300 able to prevent the shooting.

00:04:34.000 Students were barricading themselves in the classrooms, using desks and chairs to block

00:04:39.060 the doors.

00:04:39.920 Parents were waiting at the town hall to hear about the fate of their children.

00:04:44.940 There was another shooting in a nearby home with two fatalities there, and the police believe

00:04:50.580 this shooting was connected to the school attack.

00:04:53.460 Tumblr Ridge is a small, isolated community in the province of British Columbia, a 13-hour

00:04:58.980 drive northeast of Vancouver.

00:05:01.720 It's close-knit, with a population of just over 2,000 people.

00:05:05.520 And I know what it's like.

00:05:06.540 I grew up in small-town Canada.

00:05:08.980 You greet and chat to everybody you see.

00:05:12.200 Car doors and front doors, they all remain unlocked, and your business tends to be the

00:05:17.700 community's business as well.

00:05:19.140 And that's why I think this will come as such a shock to Canadians.

00:05:23.460 You can see the premier of British Columbia struggling to find the right words here in

00:05:28.620 front of the cameras.

00:05:29.560 It's hard to know what to say on a night like tonight.

00:05:31.660 This is the kind of thing that feels like it happens in other places and not close to

00:05:36.480 home in a way that this feels for so many British Columbians and Canadians.

00:05:41.940 School shootings are something that happen south of the border.

00:05:44.720 In the United States, not in Canada, the last time something like this happened, it was in

00:05:49.820 Montreal.

00:05:50.720 And the gun laws in Canada are tight.

00:05:53.240 You have to do a training course to get a license.

00:05:56.460 And if you own a gun, you have to register it with the police.

00:05:59.520 You can't just walk into Walmart and buy yourself an assault rifle.

00:06:03.780 It doesn't work like that in Canada.

00:06:05.760 The police say the attacker was dead when they found her.

00:06:08.180 She had a self-inflicted wound and she matched the description given in an earlier police

00:06:14.000 alert, female wearing a dress with brown hair.

00:06:17.940 That is extremely unusual.

00:06:20.580 It's rare to have a female attacker. 0.98

00:06:22.820 I think we will struggle to determine the why, but we're going to try and do our best to

00:06:27.640 determine what transpired that day and what led up to this tragic event.

00:06:32.380 That is a candid assessment from a member of a deeply shocked community.

00:06:37.080 He literally said it's super rare for women to do a mass shooting.

00:06:41.620 I thought that's exactly where he was going to say, well, this was a man.

00:06:46.100 No, he just said that with a straight face.

00:06:50.420 I guess he's right.

00:06:51.220 It is super rare for a woman to engage in a mass shooting and it did not happen in Tumblr 0.86

00:06:55.580 Ridge, even though he just said it did. 0.99

00:06:57.600 What a liar. 0.92

00:06:58.680 Is that actually a reporter? 0.98

00:07:01.200 Someone who reports to you what happened?

00:07:04.020 Is that the media, the Latin word for the middle, as in they'll connect you to the information?

00:07:10.540 Are they really giving you the information or are they doing the complete opposite of reporting

00:07:15.000 of being the media?

00:07:15.700 Are they trying, in fact, deliberately to obscure information, to hide the truth from you, trying

00:07:20.220 to lie to you?

00:07:21.320 That's what it's called when you spread a falsehood on purpose.

00:07:24.740 It's called a lie or disinformation.

00:07:27.540 A lot of the people who tell you about disinformation and fake news and that you can only trust them,

00:07:33.040 they are deliberate liars, aren't they?

00:07:34.860 When it's something they are trying to sell you. 0.78

00:07:36.880 We saw this endlessly during COVID, didn't they?

00:07:40.720 And then again, during the Israel-Hamas war.

00:07:43.780 And here it is now.

00:07:45.260 You cannot trust institutional journalism.

00:07:48.400 It's just incredible to me.

00:07:50.380 You know it's bad, like COVID times, when the regime media spends more time trying to criticize

00:07:56.380 and fact-check independent journalists who dare to dissent rather than doing their own journalism.

00:08:04.120 They're spending more effort on anti-journalism than on journalism, trying to undermine alternative

00:08:09.440 sources.

00:08:10.080 Let's go through a gross one.

00:08:11.480 I just saw this in the Toronto Star.

00:08:13.800 I mean, these people are raging that they don't control all information.

00:08:17.860 They're for censorship because they hate when a dissenting point of view is allowed.

00:08:22.280 So let me show you this Toronto Star article.

00:08:25.740 Inflammatory claims about Tumblr-ridged shooter identity surge as elected official claims trans

00:08:32.520 violence.

00:08:33.920 Far-right U.S. commentators. 0.66

00:08:35.660 Oh, they're the worst. 0.97

00:08:36.820 The far-right U.S. commentators have argued that transgender people commit a disproportionate 1.00

00:08:42.480 share of crimes.

00:08:43.460 A claim not borne out by statistics.

00:08:45.900 Well, I tell you, those inflammatory claims, you don't say.

00:08:50.000 As Norm Macdonald might joke if he were around, I thought the mass murdering part was the

00:08:56.000 worst part.

00:08:57.540 So this is by Alex Boyd, a staff reporter for the Toronto Star.

00:09:01.280 The initial alert sent from police to local Tumblr Ridge, B.C. residents described the suspect

00:09:06.380 as a, quote, female in a dress with brown hair.

00:09:10.020 According to media reports, the unusual wording seemed to trigger speculation about the shooter's

00:09:16.340 gender identity online.

00:09:17.500 I think some people chose to interpret that as a trans person, says Blaine Badiuk, a trans

00:09:24.580 woman and conservative political commentator who grew up in Grand Prairie, just across

00:09:30.020 the border in Alberta.

00:09:31.900 Okay, why did they call Blaine Badiuk a trans woman, but they didn't use that same descriptor

00:09:39.100 for the shooter?

00:09:40.000 I mean, why did they pretty much disclose that Blaine isn't a real woman, but why did

00:09:44.940 they hide it or abide the hiding of it for the murderer?

00:09:50.900 Police would later say that the shooter was known to them and had previously been apprehended

00:09:55.680 under the Provincial Mental Health Act and hospitalized, quote, in some circumstances.

00:10:00.840 That's incredible.

00:10:02.740 In fact, I saw a report today that police interacted with him and his family, either in person or

00:10:08.120 by phone, 60 times.

00:10:10.780 If that's true, that is shocking.

00:10:13.280 And like I say, police are so afraid of even misgendering him.

00:10:16.400 Were they also afraid politically to arrest him?

00:10:19.980 Given all his bizarre outbursts and danger, if you're afraid to call a guy he instead of

00:10:25.300 she, you're probably afraid to arrest him.

00:10:28.100 Back to the star.

00:10:30.420 That should be the focus, said Badiuk, who remembers well the scarcity of mental health

00:10:34.280 resources in remote northern resource towns, that we have a mental health crisis on our

00:10:39.240 hands for youth.

00:10:41.340 Okay, are you saying that transgenderism is a mental health crisis or being pumped with 0.83

00:10:45.800 drugs or hormones? 0.98

00:10:46.920 I'm not sure, but he said it.

00:10:49.940 Back to the story.

00:10:50.820 But online, the shooter's suspected transgender identity was frequently emphasized, even before

00:10:56.580 it was officially confirmed.

00:10:58.620 What does that mean, something's officially confirmed?

00:11:00.920 Is there an office of confirming things?

00:11:04.520 What independent journalist learned something by researching?

00:11:08.960 I mean, that's how the facts came out.

00:11:11.620 Juno News, our friends over there, they didn't wait until some government office told them they

00:11:17.160 could publish it.

00:11:17.780 They called around and found out.

00:11:20.540 What does it mean, officially confirmed?

00:11:22.820 Do we have to wait for someone official to tell us now it's okay to publish the truth?

00:11:27.200 Is that what the Toronto Star does?

00:11:29.800 Does any other murderer get that kind of treatment from the media?

00:11:33.340 I mean, look at this from the CBC.

00:11:34.960 They're literally using the killer's first name, like he's a friend or something.

00:11:39.880 Maybe they're doing that to avoid saying he or she.

00:11:42.420 They're calling him Jesse.

00:11:44.560 The RCMP say that there had been several mental health related calls to Jesse's home in recent

00:11:51.300 years.

00:11:52.120 The most recent was last May.

00:11:55.260 Police say Jesse had been apprehended for assessment and follow-up related to mental health.

00:12:02.740 The Globe and Mail is reporting Jesse had recently returned from receiving psychiatric care in Prince

00:12:09.220 George and had previously set a fire in the family home.

00:12:13.700 We know Jesse dropped out of school about four years ago.

00:12:17.840 Police also told us Jesse began transitioning from male to female about two years before that.

00:12:25.060 Jesse this, Jesse that.

00:12:26.820 It would be like saying Adolf instead of Hitler.

00:12:30.000 Or on a smaller scale, it would be like talking about Paul Bernardo and saying,

00:12:34.620 Paul, and Paul said this, and Paul said that, or Clifford Olson, and Cliff said this. 0.69

00:12:39.160 It's so gross.

00:12:40.440 Why are they doing that?

00:12:41.680 You know why they're doing that.

00:12:43.120 Back to the star.

00:12:44.560 Right wing outlet Juno News ran an interview with the alleged shooter's family member who

00:12:50.620 said the shooter was transgender.

00:12:52.580 The name Juno used was different than the one eventually given by police.

00:12:56.320 This speculation took off from there.

00:12:59.540 Now, I think it's probably fair to call Juno News right wing, but I think they're pretty

00:13:04.180 mainstream.

00:13:05.180 Like, I think they're sort of peer poly of right wing, like 40% of the population right

00:13:11.260 wing.

00:13:11.720 They're not, I wouldn't call them radical.

00:13:13.520 I just wouldn't.

00:13:14.120 I like them.

00:13:16.720 Right wing, but they're not crazy.

00:13:18.640 They're pretty accurate.

00:13:20.360 There's certainly no further out there on the right than the star is on the left.

00:13:24.160 So, Juno News confirmed the facts with the murderer's family.

00:13:28.800 That's called journalism-ing.

00:13:30.980 But the star said they were supposed to wait until officials gave the green light to reporters

00:13:36.780 to say that.

00:13:37.760 Why would they wait?

00:13:39.140 Because the star was waiting for instructions?

00:13:42.320 By the way, Juno confirmed the facts.

00:13:44.300 The murderer, who is legally called Jesse Van Rutzler, actually went by the family name.

00:13:52.080 There were multiple last names in the family.

00:13:55.060 Went by Jesse String.

00:13:57.260 So, why would the police say, no, no, no, it's Jesse Rutzler, when he went by Jesse String?

00:14:01.680 I think it's obvious because Jesse String is the name the murderer used with his endless

00:14:07.520 online rants about being transgender.

00:14:10.840 I think the police didn't want people to Google the name he used online, and the star agrees

00:14:16.380 with that, I guess.

00:14:17.080 They're really mad that Juno News is using the killer's name that he used online.

00:14:23.040 Back to the story.

00:14:23.920 That same evening, Tara Armstrong, the MLA for a central British Columbia rioting, who 0.97

00:14:28.820 was elected as a conservative but is now independent, tweeted to almost 15,000 followers that there

00:14:33.920 is, quote, an epidemic of transgender violence spreading across the West, citing Tumblr Ridge

00:14:38.980 as the latest example.

00:14:41.060 Yeah, how dare she have an opinion?

00:14:43.520 As Norm MacDonald would say, maybe the murderer is the worst part here.

00:14:48.060 Back to the story.

00:14:49.240 This epidemic of violence will continue until we change our society's response to transgender 1.00

00:14:53.500 ideology, she wrote.

00:14:56.080 Armstrong did not respond to requests for an interview, as transgender rights in general

00:15:01.140 have come under fire in the United States.

00:15:03.960 Far-right commentators there have argued in recent years that transgender people commit

00:15:08.600 a disproportionate share of crimes, a claim not borne out by statistics.

00:15:14.400 GLAAD, a non-profit U.S.-based organization that advocates for the LGBTQ community, says there's

00:15:21.340 no evidence of escalating violence committed by LGBTQ people, but points to a trend of social

00:15:26.220 media accounts blaming transgender people before facts are known.

00:15:30.160 But we know the facts here.

00:15:32.960 There's no blaming falsely here.

00:15:37.560 He was transgender. 0.98

00:15:38.980 He did do the murders. 0.97

00:15:40.480 Back to the story.

00:15:41.200 As of last fall, factcheck.org calculated that less than 0.1% of shootings in the U.S.

00:15:47.760 had been committed by trans people since 2013.

00:15:53.440 But by going back to 2013 and just all shootings, I think, I mean, and transgenderism was really 1.00

00:16:00.020 just getting started back then.

00:16:01.180 I think you're cherry picking early data when transgenderism was, before transgenderism was

00:16:06.560 weaponized both politically and enabled medically by pumping confused teams full of drugs and

00:16:12.780 hormones.

00:16:14.140 Now, of course, fewer than 1% of Americans are transgender.

00:16:17.700 So, of course, the absolute number of shootings will be small.

00:16:21.020 But even if these stats are right, even if the lobby groups, they quote, are convincing that

00:16:27.280 it's not a disproportionate number of murders, so what?

00:16:33.020 Is that the focus here?

00:16:34.520 Like Norm MacDonald said, is that really the terrible thing here?

00:16:37.620 That a politician said there's too much of this kind of violence and a transgender lobby 0.97

00:16:42.440 group said, no, there's not too much.

00:16:44.960 There's just the normal amount of violence here.

00:16:47.040 Does that make it better?

00:16:48.700 Is that the star's point here?

00:16:49.800 Back to the star.

00:16:52.160 Nevertheless, other posts spread a different message.

00:16:54.220 In a post to Twitter Thursday night, the pleb reporter, an influencer who recently attended

00:16:58.180 the Federal Conservative Convention on a content creator pass, what a weird attempt at guilt

00:17:04.000 by association, apologized to his 172,000 followers for posting pictures of a person he claimed was

00:17:10.940 the shooter, but who was not.

00:17:13.020 My point is that that's an error.

00:17:16.940 Obviously not on purpose.

00:17:18.120 It's identifying the wrong person isn't great, but it's not a malicious political decision.

00:17:22.140 It's not a commentary on transgenderism, but boy, they're working hard to discredit 1.00

00:17:26.360 independent voices and to link it to the conservatives.

00:17:29.100 He said he took down the tweet within minutes and had asked that other accounts do the same, adding that speed is never an excuse for inaccuracy.

00:17:37.740 However, a screenshot at least appears to live on, having been shared by actor James Woods, who sent it out to his 5 million followers.

00:17:44.280 In it, the pleb referred to the person in the photos as a trans lunatic and said the RCMP was hiding the truth.

00:17:50.920 The pleb declined an interview, but in a statement said that it was now known that the shooter was transgender.

00:17:57.260 In fact, he argued both police and media had obscured.

00:18:00.180 I do not assert that all transgender people are inherently violent, and I have never said so, he wrote.

00:18:05.060 Yet from my observation, media reporting has persistently and selectively downplayed cases involving trans-identified individuals in mass shootings, as they have in this case.

00:18:14.360 But doesn't he know he's not allowed to have that opinion?

00:18:19.080 The only political opinion you're allowed to graft onto a horrific tragedy like this is the need to ban more guns.

00:18:26.520 Mark Carney is headed to Tumblr Ridge.

00:18:29.320 I'll bet you a dollar he talks about gun control, because that's the good kind of politicizing a murder, isn't it?

00:18:35.220 On Wednesday afternoon, police said that the person behind one of Canada's worst mass shootings was transgender.

00:18:39.780 Speaking to media, RCMP Deputy Commissioner Dwayne MacDonald identified the shooter who killed family members at home before turning a gun on random students at a local school in northern BC,

00:18:49.880 as 18-year-old Jesse Van Rutzler, saying she was born male but had transitioned six years ago.

00:18:58.300 We're not hiding it, he said when pressed about the online speculation that had bubbled up in the day between the shooting and Wednesday's press conference.

00:19:07.660 Hang on, they're not hiding it?

00:19:09.140 By calling the person a female in a dress?

00:19:14.100 They weren't hiding it?

00:19:16.640 That's what they said in their emergency cell phone message, too.

00:19:19.540 They weren't hiding it?

00:19:22.380 Why are they lying?

00:19:24.660 Why is the star enabling the lying?

00:19:28.440 I will say this, we identify the suspect as they chose to be identified in public and in social media.

00:19:34.000 He added, before stressing that it was too early to say whether Van Rutzler's gender identity had any correlation to the investigation.

00:19:42.320 So you're respecting the political wishes of a mass murderer.

00:19:46.520 That's what Jesse would want.

00:19:49.280 I'm not going to keep reading it, it's just more of the same.

00:19:51.340 Running defense, not only for the murderer, but for transgenderism and the right kind of politicization. 0.84

00:19:57.660 No time to talk about the victims, though.

00:19:59.580 Really no time for them.

00:20:00.980 Who cares about them? 0.96

00:20:02.360 They're the problem here because they embarrass transgenderism, including the young children who were shot. 1.00

00:20:08.100 No time to talk about vicious crime. 0.97

00:20:10.220 You see, the real issue here is about the misgendering and about being anti-trans.

00:20:16.500 Don't you know?

00:20:26.100 Well, Juno News is having a good week.

00:20:28.720 Cosmin Georgia, one of their contributors, was the first to confirm that the murderer in northern B.C. was a transgender extremist. 0.62

00:20:39.600 The rest of the media were following the RCMP line of using weird language like gun person or a female in a dress.

00:20:50.520 But Juno News actually made phone calls late at night into the town and connected with neighbors and friends and family members.

00:20:59.460 So good for Juno News for getting that scoop.

00:21:02.340 Juno News also is the publication in which our friend Melanie Bennett writes.

00:21:07.460 We're delighted to join her now to talk about some disturbing news in the province of Ontario.

00:21:13.920 Melanie, great to see you.

00:21:15.320 Congratulations to Juno News on such a big week.

00:21:18.380 I want to talk about two things that you've brought to our attention.

00:21:21.840 The first is an essay you've written entitled,

00:21:24.660 Ontario Students to Learn About Anti-Semitism from Anti-Israel Group.

00:21:31.900 Tell me a little bit about that.

00:21:33.420 It's I shouldn't be smiling or laughing. 0.96

00:21:35.540 It's completely unfunny, but it's ridiculous. 0.97

00:21:38.360 Tell me who will be teaching Ontario students about Jews. 0.96

00:21:41.900 Yeah, so Independent Jewish Voices is an organization that says it represents Jews, but they're anti-Zionists, essentially.

00:21:55.900 And the Elementary Teachers Federation of Ontario have hired Independent Jewish Voices to write training materials,

00:22:05.140 which will down the line end up training teachers, I imagine, through the union.

00:22:11.180 And ETFO has been an interesting union when it comes to anti-Zionism and some of the downstream effects of that in the province. 0.60

00:22:21.240 So that was called out by CJA, who were, you know, upset that they were maybe some larger organizations that represent Jewish people in Canada were not consulted.

00:22:35.160 I also spoke to B'nai B'rith, who also made a statement along the lines of they would have been happy to provide some training for them, but they were not contacted.

00:22:42.740 So it's interesting that the ETFO, I believe the largest teachers union,

00:22:46.180 I think it's the largest teachers union in the province, chose a fringe group of radicals to provide resources.

00:22:55.660 Yeah, I've encountered these Independent Jewish Voices, and the only thing Jewish about them is the name.

00:23:01.420 That's why it's in the name.

00:23:02.680 They're designed to confuse.

00:23:04.460 If you see these Jews denouncing Israel, denouncing Zionism, it's immediately confusing.

00:23:11.420 You sometimes see some ultra-Orthodox Jews who wear the traditional garb, and they're marching with Hamas also. 0.73

00:23:20.740 It's designed to confuse and muddy the waters. 0.74

00:23:24.020 There are some anti-Semitic Jews.

00:23:27.000 I know that's hard to believe. 0.97

00:23:28.160 It would be as if there was a movement called Blacks for the KKK.

00:23:32.720 I mean, it would be so confusing and startling.

00:23:36.440 And that's the whole point.

00:23:37.800 So to choose this self-loathing group to teach Ontario children about anti-Semitism is pure malice.

00:23:49.160 It would be better not to teach them anything at all than to allow these saboteurs in.

00:23:55.180 That's my view.

00:23:56.780 Well, listen, I'm not Jewish, but if I wanted someone representing my views,

00:24:02.500 I'd want groups that represent at least the majority view of that particular community.

00:24:07.240 And as far as I understand, Independent and Jewish Voices certainly does not do that.

00:24:10.660 They have quite fringe opinions.

00:24:12.540 I don't think it's a surprise that EDFO would go do that,

00:24:14.980 because the unions just seem to be increasingly radicalized on so many different topics,

00:24:19.700 not even just, you know, this anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism, but across the board.

00:24:25.300 And that's obviously something I cover a lot.

00:24:27.880 So a very disappointed decision that they would do that.

00:24:30.140 You know, I think the better analogy, I just tried an analogy of a black Klansman. 0.81

00:24:34.640 That's just too absurd.

00:24:36.200 I think a better one would be all these women's groups, women's magazines, women's awards,

00:24:43.180 who in recent years have been, you know, woman of the year is actually a man,

00:24:49.000 like a male to female transgender.

00:24:50.920 I think that's the better analogy, is who would you send into school to teach about women's rights 0.98

00:24:58.420 and being a woman, a trans person.

00:25:02.040 It's cuckoo, but it's happening.

00:25:05.120 We all see it.

00:25:06.180 I mean, it's so audacious, it's hard to fathom.

00:25:10.040 But that's exactly what this Independent Jewish Voices is.

00:25:13.440 It's like the transgenders of the Jewish faith. 1.00

00:25:18.540 Crazy story. 0.90

00:25:19.780 I don't want to spend too much more time on it, because just a moment ago,

00:25:22.760 you told me what you're doing in the city of Ottawa.

00:25:26.840 And I'd like to invite you to tell our viewers, what are you doing there?

00:25:33.240 Who invited you there?

00:25:35.380 And what did you see, hear and learn?

00:25:38.400 I was invited a little while ago by Tafsik.

00:25:42.820 Tafsik is a Jewish advocacy group.

00:25:46.460 And they noticed some of the coverage that I was putting out about some of the incidences

00:25:52.980 within the schools.

00:25:54.180 They put together an event to advocate to designate the Muslim Brotherhood in Canada.

00:26:00.940 And I was invited to speak about the things that I found in schools,

00:26:04.420 some of the reporting that I'd published about schools.

00:26:08.400 And the meeting was in Parliament yesterday.

00:26:12.440 We had a whole day of delegations from different experts, researchers.

00:26:18.180 There was some politicians there.

00:26:20.980 So it was an interesting meeting.

00:26:22.800 And yeah, that's why I'm here in Ottawa.

00:26:26.160 Now, one of the focuses, I think, is on the Muslim Brotherhood, which is not a formal organization.

00:26:34.860 I mean, it does manifest itself in corporations and groups and mosques.

00:26:39.620 But it's sort of like, in a way, Antifa.

00:26:43.760 It's more an idea or a loose affiliation or an identity.

00:26:47.440 It would be like someone saying, I'm a hipster.

00:26:50.560 You don't have a membership card.

00:26:52.540 You just, it's who you think you are.

00:26:54.740 It's who you affiliate with.

00:26:56.500 Some countries have banned the Muslim Brotherhood.

00:27:00.760 For example, the United Arab Emirates in particular.

00:27:03.280 Tell me about the Muslim Brotherhood in Canada.

00:27:08.140 Because, first of all, maybe give a moment to our viewers.

00:27:11.120 What exactly is the Muslim Brotherhood?

00:27:14.320 What do they believe?

00:27:15.340 Who do they follow?

00:27:16.360 And what does the Muslim Brotherhood do around the world?

00:27:21.540 Well, it's, you're right.

00:27:23.280 It's more of an ideology.

00:27:24.800 It's a set of ideas.

00:27:25.900 It's a group of people.

00:27:27.020 It's who ascribe to the teachings of a person called Hassan al-Banna, who in the late 1920s

00:27:35.100 wanted to create a global caliphate, if you will.

00:27:40.340 He wanted to expand Islam.

00:27:43.600 He wanted, yeah, and so it's a sort of supremacist Islamic ideology that has spread across many 0.62

00:27:53.620 different countries.

00:27:54.440 You're correct that the, I don't know how you designate an ideology, but it has been

00:28:00.820 treated as extremist and banned in several Middle Eastern countries, including the UAE.

00:28:07.580 I believe Saudi Arabia and Egypt, its original home.

00:28:11.500 So in the Middle East, they understand that it is a dangerous ideology and that it does 1.00

00:28:16.260 interfere with the regular functioning of society.

00:28:20.420 But in the West, we haven't been as forthcoming with that.

00:28:25.020 The UK did put out a report, I believe in 2015, warning about the dangers of this particular

00:28:32.260 ideology and the presence of its followers within the UK.

00:28:35.300 It is also present within Canada.

00:28:39.040 Just as a side note, if people didn't know, Hamas is the Palestinian arm of the Muslim Brotherhood.

00:28:45.260 And many of the terrorist organizations that are famous are linked in one way or another

00:28:49.280 to this ideology of the Muslim Brotherhood.

00:28:52.000 And so this is, for me, a growing concern.

00:28:56.480 And to see organizations affiliated by and named by other organizations as in Canada, being

00:29:03.520 affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood, to find presence of that within the K-12 education

00:29:07.400 system, I find very concerning.

00:29:09.200 I'll say in Canada, there's an organization called the National Council of Canadian Muslims

00:29:14.060 or NCCM.

00:29:15.080 Before that, they were called CARE-CAN, Council of American Islamic Relations.

00:29:22.340 It was the Canadian branch of a U.S. group that was an unindicted co-conspirator in terrorism

00:29:31.180 prosecutions.

00:29:32.820 That NCCM is the leading Islamic advocacy group in Canada.

00:29:38.200 That's where, for example, a lot of the, you know, that's where the former anti-Islamophobia

00:29:47.440 activist position that Justin Trudeau appointed came from.

00:29:54.420 Tell me a little bit about the activities, if you can, of the NCCM or some of their officials

00:30:02.020 or even some MPs in Ottawa.

00:30:06.240 Now, people don't say, I'm Muslim Brotherhood.

00:30:09.580 They don't say that.

00:30:11.560 It's almost, I don't know, I'm trying to think of it, an Anglo equivalent.

00:30:17.420 It might, I suppose it might be like being a mason.

00:30:20.380 I think the Antifa is a pretty good, I think it's a pretty good comparison, this set of

00:30:23.760 ideas, right?

00:30:24.380 So a lot of extremists aren't going to say, I'm Antifa.

00:30:27.420 But what was the question?

00:30:28.440 So some of the activities here in Ottawa currently?

00:30:31.680 Well, I mean, tell me a little bit more what's going on with the Muslim Brotherhood in

00:30:35.700 Ottawa, in Parliament.

00:30:39.720 Okay.

00:30:40.200 Tell me some of the Islamic advocacy that's going on.

00:30:43.460 Okay.

00:30:43.860 Well, I found it curious that I was invited to a delegation yesterday to designate the

00:30:48.400 Muslim Brotherhood.

00:30:49.480 And it's interesting you bring up NCCM because they put out a post denouncing this meeting,

00:30:54.200 calling it a conspiracy theory.

00:30:55.600 And isn't it terrible that these people are having a meeting to designate the thing that

00:30:59.380 doesn't exist, but we're very upset that the meeting's happening.

00:31:02.280 And then today, I just, right before talking with you, I noticed on Twitter that one of

00:31:09.120 our MPs, Salma Zaid, posted about a meeting between herself and the Prime Minister and other

00:31:16.420 MPs with some, the CEO of NCCM, also some people associated with other groups, including the

00:31:25.820 Muslim Association of Canada and CMPAC, and also the Canadian Muslim Vote.

00:31:31.280 We can get into that.

00:31:32.260 But certainly leaders that I found curious, given some of the things that we've discovered,

00:31:37.860 I'll just, I'll mention this quickly.

00:31:39.600 So in the CRA, the Canada Revenue Agency, put out an audit, or did an audit over a period of

00:31:46.680 several years about the financial dealings of the Muslim Association of Canada.

00:31:51.480 And it identified in this rather large audit, I read over 300 pages of different documents.

00:31:59.840 And they very plainly said that there was connections and affiliations.

00:32:04.780 And this is the CRA, that there were connections and affiliations with the Muslim Brotherhood

00:32:09.960 and the Muslim Association of Canada.

00:32:11.860 Now, they were trying to have, they were trying to remove the charitable status, but MAC had

00:32:22.140 appealed, and they've retained their charitable status.

00:32:25.620 And there are some financial penalties for that, but they've retained it.

00:32:29.600 And so a lot of these groups are being linked and identified and then continue to advocate

00:32:36.500 at the highest levels of our government.

00:32:38.820 Like I said, today meeting with the Prime Minister, a day after we had a meeting to designate them.

00:32:46.380 You know, it's funny because it was, you know, the name that was on the tip of my tongue

00:32:49.820 was Amira El-Gawabi.

00:32:51.440 She came from the NCCM.

00:32:53.500 She was Trudeau's anti-Islamophobia captain or ambassador.

00:32:58.000 She's still very much being deployed, as is the NCCM.

00:33:03.000 It sounds like the meeting that you documented, where all these activists were meeting with

00:33:07.900 the Prime Minister, it sounds like Mark Carney is saying, all right, we're going to remove

00:33:11.860 that one official position, but I am at the disposal of any advocates or activists in

00:33:19.580 the country.

00:33:20.000 It sounds like it was sort of an apology tour by Mark Carney for shutting down this anti-Islamophobia

00:33:25.900 position.

00:33:26.600 Is that right?

00:33:27.120 Well, it's funny you mention that because, sorry, I don't have, I'd have to double check

00:33:31.920 this, but I believe that the meeting today happening that was posted is in fact to talk

00:33:36.660 about this new equity department after the elimination of both the Islamophobia and the

00:33:42.940 anti-Semitism czars.

00:33:44.120 So it looks like it has to do with, with this, um, I can't remember the exact title of the

00:33:49.540 office, but the new equity office, the anti-hate office.

00:33:53.240 Yeah.

00:33:54.060 You know, it's funny.

00:33:55.620 I, uh, I don't deny that there are some anti-Semitic Jews, uh, going back to our earlier

00:34:02.380 conversation.

00:34:02.920 Because I look at who is generally considered the front runner in the NDP's leadership race.

00:34:09.100 And it's a guy about my age named Avi Lewis, son of Stephen Lewis, um, longtime political

00:34:16.100 leftist.

00:34:16.960 And he and his wife, Naomi Klein, are being basically communists.

00:34:20.460 I don't think they would deny that for the whole lives.

00:34:23.260 And he is running his chief campaign platform is an anti-Israel platform.

00:34:29.760 So this is a, a secular Jew.

00:34:31.920 He and his wife are about as Jewish as a ham sandwich, but they are Jewish and they are the

00:34:38.560 kind of Jews who would be in this independent voices, Jewish voices group.

00:34:43.840 What's interesting to me is Jagmeet Singh was, you know, created in a laboratory to be the worst

00:34:51.640 NDP leader possible.

00:34:53.340 So all the left-wing votes would coalesce behind Justin Trudeau.

00:34:57.860 That's my observation.

00:34:58.920 In fact, in the last election, I think the NDP got what?

00:35:02.400 Nine percent?

00:35:03.600 Shockingly no number.

00:35:05.680 I think Avi Lewis, as strange as it sounds, a nominally Jewish politician, if he wins, could

00:35:14.720 attract some of the Muslim vote to the NDP.

00:35:18.060 You see that in the UK where the Green Party, the deputy leader of the Green Party is an

00:35:24.100 Islamic extremist. 0.96

00:35:25.700 Like it's a very strange combination of self-loathing Jews, environmental extremists and Islamic 1.00

00:35:32.420 extremists. 0.98

00:35:33.060 It's quite something.

00:35:33.940 I think the Green Party in the UK is really on the move.

00:35:37.680 I think you're going to see that in Canada.

00:35:39.660 And perhaps this move with Mark Carney meeting with all the Islamist activists is his way 1.00

00:35:45.580 to shore things up.

00:35:47.100 Because if Avi Lewis actually becomes the leader of the NDP and attracts the anti-Semites and

00:35:52.320 the anti-Israel activists, the Liberal Party of Canada is going to have some competition

00:35:56.520 on the left.

00:35:57.160 Yeah, at the end of the day, it seems to me that this so-called Islamo-leftist alliance

00:36:06.140 has less to do with Israel or being Jewish and more to do with hating the West and having 0.99

00:36:14.220 a common goal in eliminating the West, right? 0.61

00:36:18.380 It seems to me like that's been the case in places like Iran during the Iranian Revolution.

00:36:24.900 That's been the case.

00:36:25.900 We're seeing it in the UK right now, as you say, whether it's the Green Party or the

00:36:30.240 new party, Corbynista Party.

00:36:32.140 Was it your party, I believe they called it?

00:36:34.360 Who then they extracted themselves from the Labour, which was not far left enough, created

00:36:39.700 their own party.

00:36:41.160 And you see, obviously, the Islamist MPs joining the Green Party as well.

00:36:46.980 So we see this all over the world.

00:36:49.220 And ultimately, what do they have in common?

00:36:51.820 They don't like Western liberal democracy.

00:36:55.160 They wish to eliminate Western liberal democracy, whether you call it anti-capitalism or whatever

00:37:00.940 you want to call it.

00:37:02.200 But ultimately, there's a danger to that.

00:37:04.680 Because again, in Iran, once the revolution is over, this alliance cannot stand.

00:37:13.600 And so somebody is going to be eliminated.

00:37:15.580 And that somebody is going to be the leftists.

00:37:17.960 And it's unfortunate that we haven't learned our lessons.

00:37:20.800 And I would like to avoid seeing that in Canada.

00:37:23.160 I don't think we have to go down that road.

00:37:24.860 And I think we can learn from history.

00:37:27.180 Well, I sure hope you're right.

00:37:28.740 Sometimes I fear we've gone past the point of no return.

00:37:32.260 I'm encouraged by Nigel Farage becoming bolder every day.

00:37:37.140 But I also worry that it's just too far.

00:37:39.920 I mean, his latest comments refer to one million Brits who don't even speak English.

00:37:45.740 I mean, here's a little videotape of Nigel Farage addressing this.

00:37:50.160 It was actually a football club owner who first said, we are being colonized by foreigners.

00:37:56.380 That got a shocking tut-tut, including from the prime minister.

00:37:59.920 But Nigel Farage, I think, is slowly finding his courage.

00:38:03.420 So Jim Ratcliffe, one of the richest Britons in the world, of course, the boss of INEOS

00:38:07.100 and now a major shareholder in Manchester United Football Club, has caused outrage by his comments.

00:38:12.980 So what's he actually said?

00:38:15.300 Well, he said that our population has gone up from 58 million to 70 million.

00:38:20.980 And that with 9 million people of working age on benefits, we don't need mass migration.

00:38:27.100 He said much of the country had been colonized by immigrants.

00:38:30.580 Now, that word was a controversial word.

00:38:32.960 And he said, OK, if you don't like the word, we'll tone it down.

00:38:35.620 But just think about this.

00:38:37.920 You ask yourself why public services have diminished.

00:38:41.460 You ask yourself why rents have gone through the roof.

00:38:44.380 The population explosion has done that.

00:38:46.720 And then you look at parts of London, for example, where the road names, the underground signs,

00:38:52.620 aren't just in English.

00:38:54.520 They're in a foreign language as well.

00:38:56.300 One million people living in this country don't speak any English at all.

00:38:59.660 Four million people, four million people living in this country, barely speak passable English.

00:39:05.220 And that's the point that he was making, that big areas of our towns and cities have been changed

00:39:10.760 into something completely different to what they were, and that it's all making us poorer.

00:39:17.120 And I don't really care if number 10 is in uproar, or if much of mainstream media find his comments too difficult.

00:39:23.960 I believe firmly that Jim Ratcliffe is right.

00:39:28.180 Keen to know what you think.

00:39:29.920 I don't know, Melanie.

00:39:31.100 I just, I fear that, you know, demographics is destiny and we've just gone too far.

00:39:36.860 Are you hopeful or do you think we're past the tipping point?

00:39:41.600 Of course I'm hopeful.

00:39:42.880 I think we must always be hopeful.

00:39:46.020 It's not over until it's over.

00:39:47.740 Just because something isn't necessarily in the headlines right now doesn't mean that people will not realize.

00:39:52.100 If we, listen, you were talking about Cosmin Georgia, my boss, who cracked open the story about the trans shooter.

00:39:59.360 Now, trans was not so much in, or the issues around that were not as prevalent in the media several years ago, right?

00:40:07.320 The media didn't want to talk about it.

00:40:09.260 And certainly True North and Juneau News and yourselves helped bring some of these issues into the forefront.

00:40:13.680 And now many, many people are aware of a lot of the issues associated with that.

00:40:16.980 And so sometimes it just takes a little bit of persistence and repeating the message over and over for people to start hearing about it.

00:40:24.040 But you talked about the UK and one of the differences I find with the media environment in the UK compared to Canada is that we don't have a lot of so-called conservative or right-wing media in a more mainstream way in Canada.

00:40:40.900 Whereas the UK does have that, they might be panned by people because obviously, you know, on the right equals evil still in the UK, but it exists.

00:40:50.540 And we struggle to bring that, we struggle to bring alternative opinions in Canada because of this media environment.

00:40:57.200 But certainly we do our best and I think that we've done a really great job.

00:41:02.520 And so, of course, I'm hopeful.

00:41:03.740 I think it just takes a little bit of time and effort.

00:41:05.400 Yeah, I think you may be referring to GB News, which is just a great conservative Islamic skeptic broadcaster.

00:41:14.340 Nigel Farage, in fact, has a show there.

00:41:17.920 We had that in Canada for about 10 minutes called the Sun News Network until Prime Minister Stephen Harper allowed the CRTC to destroy it,

00:41:27.500 which is, I think, one of his gravest long-term errors he made as a prime minister.

00:41:32.480 But that's a conversation for another day.

00:41:34.780 Melanie Bennett, it is so great to see you again.

00:41:37.640 You're always doing such interesting stuff and you're always so well informed about your subjects.

00:41:44.140 And I really learn a lot from you.

00:41:45.900 Thank you for taking the time with us today and congratulations on your work.

00:41:50.600 Always a pleasure. Thank you, Ezra.

00:41:52.140 Right on. There she is.

00:41:53.420 Melanie Bennett from Juneau News.

00:41:55.620 Stay with us.

00:41:56.580 Your letters to me next.

00:41:58.360 Hey, welcome back.

00:42:08.560 Your letters to me.

00:42:10.060 Jamie Heather says, just like poisoning is known as a woman's crime, a mass shooting, especially at a school with the inclusion of the perp committing suicide, is a man's crime.

00:42:20.260 Well, for whatever reason, crime is disproportionately male.

00:42:23.860 I've never heard poisoning called a women's crime, but I suppose I could see why it is. 1.00

00:42:28.860 It is, I can't even think of a mass murder committed by a woman other than some recent cases in the States of a transgender female to male who is so pumped full of rage-inducing testosterone that I really think it was a psychoactive moment. 0.99

00:42:44.640 That you can only pump so many hormones into someone without having them go nuts. 0.99

00:42:52.640 Sun 84888 says, RCMP mobilizes dozens of officers to murder innocent ostriches, but gives guns back to a deranged, mentally unstable creep. 0.97

00:43:02.880 You know, the RCMP is not fit for purpose.

00:43:05.240 That press conference was so atrocious.

00:43:07.520 There's a gun person afoot.

00:43:09.540 It's a female in a dress. 1.00

00:43:12.080 Stop lying.

00:43:13.380 And I just learned today, I mentioned this in my monologue, that the police interacted with this guy 60 times, but obviously they were too afraid to do anything for political reasons.

00:43:24.420 Code Jam Man says, the only reason the mainstream media reported on it was because of the body count.

00:43:29.420 I'm sure the transgender part they would have loved to bury, but they couldn't because of independent news organization like yours brought it to the public. 1.00

00:43:36.360 The liberal government will use this and twist it to follow their own agenda, whatever it is.

00:43:40.080 We'll see, because remember, Mark Carney's own daughter has transed to be a man, and she's an activist about it.

00:43:48.320 We'll see what Carney himself says.

00:43:49.680 You know, it's so crazy that I think that the police are so afraid of doing or saying anything that could be taken as anti-trans in some way.

00:44:11.660 I think that's why they let this guy stay in the community, despite his crazy outbursts, keep his guns, 60 interactions with police.

00:44:22.220 This was a ticking time bomb.

00:44:24.280 Very sad.

00:44:26.300 It's a show for the day.

00:44:27.960 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

00:44:34.380 We'll see you next time.

Rebel News Podcast - February 13, 2026

EZRA LEVANT ｜ What’s the real problem in Tumbler Ridge, B.C.？

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