Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ When will we hear counts of deaths from the lockdown？

00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. Today's show is about a new report that says 500,000 surgeries have been cancelled in Canada because of the lockdowns.

00:00:12.400 A lot of them are cancer surgeries, cataract surgeries on people's eyes when they're going blind, hip and knee surgeries so they can't even walk.

00:00:20.580 Half a million cancelled.

00:00:23.840 And I wonder how many of those have died.

00:00:26.840 And is that number larger than the 29,000 people who have died from COVID, usually in their 80s?

00:00:33.400 I'll take you through the numbers in the report. It's quite something.

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00:00:56.840 Tonight, when will we hear daily counts of deaths from the lockdown?

00:01:16.120 It's December 9th and this is the Ezra LeVance Show.

00:01:18.820 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:24.800 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:28.880 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:39.720 Look at this headline.

00:01:40.760 Again, I just picked it at random, really.

00:01:43.760 I could find a bunch like it.

00:01:46.220 Rapid infection rate of Omicron COVID variant is causing concern as UK braces for one million cases.

00:01:57.000 Wow, a million cases? A million.

00:01:59.580 No doubt it's causing concern, except that so far, I don't think this Omicron mutation of the COVID virus has sent a single person to the hospital.

00:02:09.420 I showed you this clip from the United Kingdom itself just the other day.

00:02:13.340 How many of those who have tested positive in the UK are ill?

00:02:19.900 Secretary of State.

00:02:20.860 The number of confirmed cases in the UK is 336.

00:02:28.480 They are all by definition infected.

00:02:30.960 They will have been various.

00:02:32.760 Some may be asymptomatic.

00:02:35.540 Others will be feeling ill.

00:02:37.820 None of them so far, as far as I am aware, have been hospitalized.

00:02:41.860 So you're saying it's like the common cold.

00:02:46.080 Okay.

00:02:46.860 But hey, the UK is bracing for a million cases of the common cold.

00:02:52.720 They really want to scare you, don't they?

00:02:54.800 They love saying new and exotic words, Omicron.

00:02:58.200 That sounds so cool, but scary too.

00:03:01.000 There are a lot of cool Greek letters to name a bunch more common colds after.

00:03:06.160 Omega, that's going to be amazing.

00:03:11.620 Why do they do it?

00:03:13.520 Well, like any war, there are war profiteers.

00:03:17.860 This is a sort of war.

00:03:19.920 People in the war material business love war.

00:03:22.820 Whether it's making uniforms for soldiers or, I don't know, making masks.

00:03:29.540 You know, I'm not too interested in hearing from folks who wanted to ban plastic straws.

00:03:37.300 I can't go anywhere without seeing gross masks on the ground.

00:03:41.520 But hey, it's for your health.

00:03:42.660 Just remember, politicians love a war.

00:03:46.140 People pull together around their leaders against an external enemy.

00:03:50.160 It's great for politicians or an invisible enemy.

00:03:53.160 I mean, hang on.

00:03:54.980 You're not for the enemy, are you?

00:03:57.160 I mean, you're either with us or you're with the enemy.

00:03:59.140 Who are you siding on?

00:04:00.960 And Canadian opposition leaders don't dare dissent.

00:04:04.980 Of course, the media loves a war.

00:04:06.640 It's good for ratings.

00:04:08.660 Here's a story about Hearst, the famous propagandist after whom the phrase yellow journalism was named.

00:04:18.280 Let me read this story about him from PBS.

00:04:20.900 It was about how he really wanted a war, sort of like CNN does these days.

00:04:25.860 Perhaps the most famous anecdote surrounding Hearst's zeal for the war involves a legendary communication between the illustrator, Frederick Remington and Hearst.

00:04:38.140 As the story goes, Remington, who had been sent to Cuba to cover the insurrection, cabled to Hearst that there was no war to cover.

00:04:47.900 Hearst allegedly replied with,

00:04:49.820 Well, for four years, Donald Trump refused to give the world new wars.

00:04:59.620 He just didn't.

00:05:01.000 I'm afraid that Joe Biden is fixing that.

00:05:03.280 I'm afraid that Biden's weakness is inviting Russia to devour Ukraine and China to devour Taiwan, something they wouldn't dare do under Donald Trump.

00:05:12.920 But I think the media's insatiable need for conflict and drama and an enemy has made the pandemic into a sort of war.

00:05:20.860 Not against China, even though they are the source of the virus, but against the real enemy of the media, which is our own citizens and their freedoms.

00:05:31.120 I really despise the vocabulary of the warmongers who insist on one weapon only to fight the enemy, namely vaccines that just don't really work as promised.

00:05:43.740 I mean, ask Bill Gates.

00:05:45.360 The deaths, it's been completely horrific, and I would expect that will lead the R&D budgets to be focused on things we didn't have today.

00:05:58.280 You know, we didn't have vaccines that block transmission.

00:06:01.540 We got vaccines that help you with your health, but they only slightly reduce the transmissions.

00:06:06.300 We need a new way of doing the vaccine.

00:06:09.600 The vaccines don't stop you from getting or spreading the disease.

00:06:13.060 Yesterday, I showed you how a new study published by the U.S. government shows that vaccines may actually be encouraging mutations and more infections.

00:06:23.520 But war profiteers need their profits.

00:06:25.820 So the solution to any and every problem is more shots.

00:06:29.060 I mean, just keep doing it, right?

00:06:31.920 Do you think that the third shot, that some people call the third shot, some people call the booster, will eventually be part of vaccine passports and mandates, that it will take more than two in order to be considered fully vaccinated?

00:06:44.920 Probably, almost certainly, because that's how the history of vaccination proceeds.

00:06:52.340 You know, vaccines have a limited time during which they are fully effective, and that's going to be the case for the COVID-19 vaccines.

00:07:00.760 Now, we're not there yet.

00:07:02.140 We are at the start of an important booster campaign, and we have yet to give a booster shot to many Canadians.

00:07:09.740 And so we'll have to focus on that for now.

00:07:12.440 Vaccines, boosters, triple vaxxed.

00:07:15.560 I'm tired of that.

00:07:16.460 But what's driving it is the fear.

00:07:19.020 And what's sowing the fear is illiterate and innumerate journalists saying things like a million cases of Omicron.

00:07:26.900 Omicron, oh my gosh.

00:07:29.140 Except that, you know, it's like the cold.

00:07:32.580 It's like when that PGA player was literally having the game of his life and someone went up to him and tapped him on the shoulder and told him he had to quit mid-game because he had COVID, they claimed, even though he didn't even know it.

00:07:47.900 Yeah, that's a terrifying disease.

00:07:50.540 When Donald Trump, a fat man in his 70s, got COVID and recovered in a weekend, I knew it was a touch overblown. 0.98

00:07:58.900 And that wasn't even the mild version. 0.99

00:08:02.180 So I know all of these useless and meaningless numbers.

00:08:07.600 I mean, here are just a few.

00:08:10.880 COVID-19, Alberta reports six new cases of Omicron variant.

00:08:16.700 Imagine thinking that as a news story.

00:08:18.580 Six people have a cold in a province of nearly 5 million citizens.

00:08:24.020 Here's another from the Atlantic.

00:08:25.600 Omicron's explosive growth is a warning sign.

00:08:30.680 We don't know how severe Omicron is, but we do know it's spreading very fast.

00:08:35.820 Yeah, no, we actually do know how severe it is.

00:08:40.260 It's not severe.

00:08:41.360 The overall patience that was recorded yesterday was around about 3,700.

00:08:49.240 So our positivity rate is 9.2%.

00:08:53.100 It is, yes, it is more than we would have loved it to be.

00:08:59.700 But looking at the mildness of the symptoms that we are seeing, currently there's no reason for panicking as we don't see severely ill patients.

00:09:12.220 Here's Trudeau's CBC state broadcaster, rising COVID-19 hospitalizations will strain system, even without Omicron, Ontario's science table.

00:09:21.680 Yeah, even without Omicron, it has nothing to do with Omicron.

00:09:25.380 Not a single one of those hospitalizations has to do with Omicron.

00:09:29.540 Why would you put that in your headline?

00:09:32.240 It's deceptive.

00:09:33.120 It's fake news.

00:09:33.880 It's disinformation.

00:09:35.060 It implies Omicron is what's making it worse. 1.00

00:09:37.520 Those wicked liars. 1.00

00:09:38.860 Here's another one. 0.98

00:09:40.780 Ontario extends pause on reopening plan indefinitely as COVID-19 situation worsens.

00:09:46.920 Oh, there's a shocker, a warmonger mongering the war.

00:09:51.580 Listen to this shocking language.

00:09:53.640 A basic means of protecting individuals is stopping the mixing of unvaccinated and vaccinated. 1.00

00:09:59.500 Yeah.

00:09:59.760 At what point do we get to call these guys bigots?

00:10:02.820 But look at this story.

00:10:04.160 The rare time when a stopped clock is right.

00:10:07.720 This is from the Globe and Mail.

00:10:08.980 It appeared elsewhere, too.

00:10:11.960 The story is number of surgeries performed in Canada fell more than half a million during

00:10:17.980 pandemic, report says.

00:10:20.040 Hmm.

00:10:20.760 Half a million surgeries.

00:10:22.560 Half a million.

00:10:24.360 And I don't think we're talking about surgeries like, I don't know, breast implants or nose

00:10:30.020 jobs or things like that.

00:10:31.320 Half a million.

00:10:31.900 Have you ever had surgery ever?

00:10:35.740 If you did, I'm guessing it was for something sort of serious, more serious than the cold.

00:10:40.960 Half a million surgeries canceled.

00:10:45.080 The number of surgeries performed in Canadian hospitals fell by more than half a million from

00:10:48.640 March 2020 to June 2021, according to a new report that highlights the collateral damage

00:10:53.280 caused by the pandemic.

00:10:54.800 I'm going to stop you right there, brother.

00:10:56.280 The pandemic didn't do that.

00:10:57.680 The report published on Thursday by the Canadian Institute for Health Information found surgeries

00:11:06.120 decreased by about 35,000 a month during the first 16 months of the pandemic, with the

00:11:11.680 largest declines during the first wave in early 2020.

00:11:15.140 The report found the biggest decreases were in cataract removals and hip and knee replacements.

00:11:21.620 Oh, really?

00:11:22.460 Cataracts.

00:11:23.020 That's when you're going blind, right?

00:11:25.740 That's not important, is it?

00:11:27.720 Knee and hip surgery so you can walk, right?

00:11:30.360 You don't really need those, do you?

00:11:34.420 As the number of COVID-19 cases creeps up in many parts of Canada, public health experts

00:11:38.920 predict that disruptions to the healthcare system will continue for some time.

00:11:43.740 Cases.

00:11:44.440 What's a case?

00:11:45.500 A case of Omicron?

00:11:47.060 What does that have to do with getting cataract surgery?

00:11:50.660 Elective operations also include cancer surgery and treatments for other serious, possibly

00:11:55.460 life-threatening medical conditions.

00:11:58.000 Oh, is cancer surgery elective?

00:12:00.300 I didn't know that.

00:12:02.180 Half a million of these.

00:12:05.240 You know, 29,000 Canadians have died from COVID over the past two years, if you trust

00:12:10.060 the statistics.

00:12:11.160 That's a lot.

00:12:12.700 But then again, not really a lot.

00:12:14.960 There's 38 million Canadians.

00:12:17.220 It's a bit higher than the number over the same period of time who would have died from

00:12:21.380 the flu in any given two-year period.

00:12:23.420 The average age of COVID deaths, though, is about 80.

00:12:27.160 A huge number of these deaths were euthanized in Quebec nursing homes, according to the provincial

00:12:33.220 inquiry into the subject.

00:12:34.420 I'm sorry, you don't get to attribute euthanasia to a virus.

00:12:39.320 That was done by people and politicians and bureaucrats.

00:12:42.720 So a half a million surgeries, including cancer surgeries, have been canceled.

00:12:47.680 Do you doubt that that's killed or is going to kill more than 29,000 of those half million?

00:12:55.040 I don't want people of any age to die, but we are all going to die someday.

00:12:59.200 Dying at 80 from natural causes is sad, but not a tragedy.

00:13:04.380 Dying at 80 from COVID is sad.

00:13:07.000 Dying at 30 or 40 or 50 years old because your cancer was missed or not operated on,

00:13:14.000 that's more than sad.

00:13:14.820 That's a tragedy.

00:13:15.820 And at some point, I think you've got to stop calling it a tragedy and start calling it a crime.

00:13:22.740 And that's just surgeries.

00:13:25.180 The drug overdoses and suicides, too.

00:13:28.260 The data also found that people in low-income areas were more likely than those in the highest

00:13:33.140 income neighborhoods to be admitted to hospital for health problems linked to substance abuse.

00:13:38.560 And young women were more likely than any other demographic to be hospitalized for self-harm

00:13:43.840 during that period of the pandemic, the report shows.

00:13:47.060 The analysis includes only hospital admissions linked to substance abuse or self-harm.

00:13:51.700 So it's an incomplete picture of the true toll, the report said.

00:13:56.400 Yeah, average age of suicides and drug deaths is much lower than people in their 80s.

00:14:01.260 We're sacrificing children.

00:14:04.080 That's the opposite of civilization.

00:14:06.940 Are you okay with any of this?

00:14:10.140 Stay with us for more.

00:14:14.380 I'm paying the $7 billion bill associated with this proposal.

00:14:18.260 That question is directed to who, Mr. Poliaff?

00:14:30.160 Anyone who wants to answer it.

00:14:40.280 If they have one, anyone over there that is concerned about where the money comes from,

00:14:45.160 that person could speak up.

00:14:46.500 Maybe you could choose one of the witnesses.

00:14:56.180 I don't know who on their side is responsible for this,

00:15:00.160 but clearly they're getting the money from somewhere, so they must know where.

00:15:02.840 Anyone here from Finance Canada?

00:15:11.560 I see Mr. Baylor.

00:15:12.520 Mr. Chair, I can provide a high-level response,

00:15:19.320 but I'm afraid I won't be able to answer directly the Honourable Member's question,

00:15:25.920 because we're here to discuss.

00:15:31.440 And what I can say with regards to the cost of the measures in terms of part one,

00:15:37.620 the three first programs that I mentioned,

00:15:42.660 the tourism and hospitality recovery program,

00:15:46.500 part businesses recovery program,

00:15:49.220 and the local lockdown program,

00:15:51.100 have a cost of $3.2 billion.

00:15:53.940 And where is, sorry, Mr. Baylor,

00:15:56.640 where is the money coming from?

00:15:57.800 Well, Mr. Chair, that is within the government's broader macroeconomic framework,

00:16:04.920 and I'm not responding.

00:16:07.600 I can't speak to that.

00:16:10.020 So you don't have anyone here?

00:16:11.780 It's just that we're being asked to vote in favor of another $7 billion of spending.

00:16:16.700 And the obvious question is, where is it coming from?

00:16:22.880 Mr. Chair, as I indicated, I can discuss the contents of the bill,

00:16:27.360 and I appreciate the question, but I can't answer that question.

00:16:32.020 Oh, my gosh.

00:16:33.140 You really have to watch that whole video.

00:16:36.660 It's too much.

00:16:38.360 It's too much.

00:16:39.620 The cringe factor.

00:16:42.060 You've got 10 finance officials,

00:16:45.180 and none of them know what the answer is,

00:16:48.440 none of them are allowed to say the answers,

00:16:51.300 none of them think if they answer that maybe they'll get in trouble.

00:16:55.900 That's too perfect.

00:16:58.460 That's unperfect in a terrible way.

00:17:01.500 Holy mackerel.

00:17:03.320 And, of course, is Pierre Polyev,

00:17:05.240 I think the most effective critic in the opposition,

00:17:07.840 which some would say is like saying the tallest short guy,

00:17:10.240 but, boy, that was good.

00:17:12.300 There aren't a lot of people holding the line on spending,

00:17:15.620 especially during the pandemic where anything goes,

00:17:18.060 but one of the few organizations I think you can trust,

00:17:22.580 mainly because they're not on the government goal,

00:17:25.080 because they don't take any government handouts,

00:17:27.860 one of the few good guys left out there that's untainted by the Trudeau bucks,

00:17:32.400 those are our friends at the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:17:35.220 Joining us now via Skype is Franco Teresano,

00:17:38.460 the Canadian Taxpayers Federation federal director who joins us now.

00:17:43.940 Franco, great to see you again.

00:17:45.340 Thanks for joining us today.

00:17:47.160 Hey, my pleasure.

00:17:48.460 It was great to see.

00:17:49.100 I see you have an article in the Sun newspapers.

00:17:52.340 This is from the Toronto Sun.

00:17:53.640 The headline is,

00:17:55.000 Trudeau needs to make government debt a priority.

00:17:59.040 Now, you could read that headline in two ways,

00:18:02.540 and Trudeau would say,

00:18:03.620 I'm making government debt a huge priority.

00:18:06.440 I mean, he's the master of it,

00:18:08.240 but I think you mean it the opposite way, don't you?

00:18:11.260 Yeah, we mean actually reining in all this massive deficit spending.

00:18:15.840 And Ezra, we just got the throne speech from this government.

00:18:18.540 That's when they talk about all these different types of priorities.

00:18:21.900 And unfortunately, sometimes what is not said is what reveals the most.

00:18:27.160 And we didn't hear a single mention of the word deficit or debt.

00:18:32.040 Now, I get that there's many different priorities that governments have right now,

00:18:36.060 but when you are more than $1 trillion in debt,

00:18:39.300 you would think that debt reduction should be a key priority.

00:18:43.280 Yeah.

00:18:43.660 Well, can you explain to folks that?

00:18:45.580 And I got to say,

00:18:46.580 there's certain subjects I feel like I know a fair bit about,

00:18:49.280 but monetary policy and inflation,

00:18:51.340 I'll admit I only have a sort of understanding of the subject.

00:18:56.420 Can you help our folks out and help me out a bit?

00:18:58.740 How does massive government debt feed into inflation?

00:19:04.140 And what is inflation and interest rates?

00:19:07.340 What do they do?

00:19:08.120 Can you sort of bring it down to street level for me?

00:19:12.780 Well, the one thing that you have to know is just that the more money

00:19:16.400 or the more dollars that the government prints through its central bank,

00:19:20.200 the less that your dollars in your paychecks or your saving account will buy.

00:19:24.580 And what we've seen during the pandemic is this printing press has been on overdrive.

00:19:29.380 The Bank of Canada has printed up $370 billion purchasing financial assets,

00:19:36.680 such as government of Canada debt.

00:19:38.820 Now, that sounds like a huge amount of new dollars because it is.

00:19:42.520 It's a 300% growth in the Bank of Canada's assets,

00:19:46.160 which is way more than what happened during the recessions of the 70s,

00:19:50.040 the 80s, the 90s, even the 08-09 recession.

00:19:53.420 Well, so what does that do?

00:19:56.160 I mean, a lot of Canadians in certain cities, at least, Toronto, Vancouver, to name a couple,

00:20:03.440 housing prices are so high.

00:20:06.040 I mean, the average detached dwelling in Toronto property is over a million dollars now.

00:20:11.900 I think Vancouver in some ways is even more expensive.

00:20:13.940 What's the effect this has on housing prices for people trying to buy their first house?

00:20:21.940 And what's the effect for people who maybe own their home but have to renegotiate their mortgage?

00:20:29.060 Well, it's driving up the cost of living. 0.57

00:20:31.140 I mean, it's too many dollars chasing too few goods.

00:20:33.980 I mean, there's so many factors that can influence prices day to day.

00:20:37.580 But a key one is the fact that the government can print new dollars out of thin air,

00:20:41.940 but it can't print new houses.

00:20:43.680 It can't print up new farmland.

00:20:46.020 And one of the things that we have to remember is that the Bank of Canada,

00:20:49.360 one of the key things that is buying up is government of Canada debt.

00:20:53.120 The last that I looked, the Bank of Canada's assets, 85% of that is government of Canada bonds.

00:20:59.660 So to me, it sure seems like the Trudeau government is using the printing press

00:21:05.080 to finance a good chunk of its deficits.

00:21:08.540 You know, for such a long time, interest rates have been so low.

00:21:11.940 It's been easy for people if they could muster some sort of a down payment to buy a home.

00:21:17.800 But if interest rates start going up, I mean, we could be in...

00:21:23.200 I mean, I remember this term from a generation ago, stagflation.

00:21:27.740 It was sort of a made-up word, stagnation and inflation.

00:21:31.240 I remember there was a time when interest rates were double digits.

00:21:34.700 And what that does to people who are trying to pay a mortgage is shocking to me.

00:21:42.020 You know, it's so long ago, I think a whole generation of Canadians has grown up

00:21:46.460 never knowing what hyperinflation and devaluation of the currency is like.

00:21:52.040 I think a lot of people are in for a rude awakening.

00:21:56.100 It's a little scary.

00:21:56.900 It reminds me of Trudeau version 1, Trudeau 1.0.

00:22:00.400 Like, it was under his watch that we were in this trouble the last time, isn't it?

00:22:04.900 Well, and this is one of the key things that we're trying to get across, Ezra, right?

00:22:08.160 Either the federal government makes some tough decisions today,

00:22:11.280 or we're going to see tougher decisions forced on us.

00:22:14.260 Now, you just mentioned Trudeau Sr., but we could even look a little bit closer in time.

00:22:17.920 Let's just go to what happened in the 80s and 90s.

00:22:21.280 Well, in the 80s, you had these big spending politicians

00:22:23.920 that kept kicking the deficit can down the road.

00:22:26.540 And by the time the 90s came across, you saw politicians on all sides of the aisle,

00:22:31.180 on different levels of government, were forced to make tough decisions.

00:22:35.200 In Saskatchewan, for example, they had to close, what was it?

00:22:38.360 More than 50 hospitals across the Prairie province.

00:22:41.720 So that's the message that we're getting across

00:22:43.880 or trying to get across here to these politicians is,

00:22:46.400 hey, look, you either make some tough decisions today,

00:22:49.540 tighten your belts, or tougher decisions are going to be forced on all Canadians.

00:22:53.220 Yeah. Well, I forgot about that.

00:22:55.200 That's right. The NDP, the party of Tommy Douglas,

00:22:58.180 was the party shutting down hospitals

00:23:00.200 because they simply ran out of other people's money.

00:23:02.720 Well, folks, do me a favor and go to taxpayer, singular, taxpayer.com.

00:23:08.100 And that's the website for Franco and the other teammates there,

00:23:11.200 the Taxpayers Federation.

00:23:12.320 If you're not already signed up there, please do.

00:23:15.140 Like I say, they're one of the few organizations in civil society

00:23:18.960 that is not on the government payroll.

00:23:21.220 So they're one of the few folks out there

00:23:22.960 that's able to, you know, speak honestly and independently.

00:23:26.680 Franco, it's great to see you.

00:23:27.960 Keep up the good work.

00:23:28.700 I'm so pleased to see you published in the Toronto Sun,

00:23:31.220 and I hope to talk to you again soon.

00:23:33.520 Hey, well, thank you so much for having me on today.

00:23:35.640 Well, it's our pleasure.

00:23:36.840 There you have it. Franco Teresano,

00:23:38.280 he's the federal director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:23:41.960 Stay with us.

00:23:42.520 More ahead.

00:23:51.180 Hey, welcome back.

00:23:52.260 Your letters.

00:23:53.280 Someone named John here says,

00:23:54.800 I like Avi.

00:23:56.040 He gets right in there to root out the truth.

00:23:59.300 A real journalist, as is the rest of your team.

00:24:02.080 I'm behind Rebel News all the way.

00:24:04.180 When you fear the government, it's tyranny, not freedom.

00:24:08.420 Avi's doing great down there.

00:24:09.860 And really, against all odds, there's such a small handful of Australians fighting.

00:24:15.720 And in the state of Victoria, they call them states down there.

00:24:20.240 That's where Melbourne is, city of five, six million.

00:24:23.120 That really is one of the most locked down places in the world.

00:24:25.520 I'm so glad Avi's there.

00:24:27.900 And boy, the premier hates him.

00:24:30.760 Paul McCullough says,

00:24:31.620 Yeah, I mean, it's one of those curious things.

00:24:42.940 Like, remember that huge shooting, the worst mass shooting in American history?

00:24:48.340 That guy in Las Vegas from the hotel room just shooting for like an hour or whatever.

00:24:52.860 Whatever happened to that?

00:24:55.200 What, why have we not heard anything?

00:24:58.000 You would think that with the combined might and investigative powers of the FBI and other police,

00:25:04.680 we'd know the truth about that.

00:25:06.240 Why did that just vaporize?

00:25:08.660 I feel the same way about certain curiosities.

00:25:10.940 Like, oh, gee, this virus from Wuhan, China, where did it come from?

00:25:15.160 Did people just stop asking when they got too close to the answer?

00:25:18.980 I don't know.

00:25:21.300 Scott Roofer says, here's my new word for it, control vid.

00:25:28.660 Control vid.

00:25:29.620 All right.

00:25:30.100 It doesn't quite roll off the tongue, but I get it.

00:25:33.980 Hey, I want to say goodnight to you now, and I want to tell you to keep fighting for freedom,

00:25:37.820 and I want to say goodnight, but I want to tell you to watch this video today first.

00:25:41.740 This is our friend Matt Brevner from Vancouver talking to an unvaccinated doctor

00:25:47.320 who has refused entry to his own clinic.

00:25:51.880 All right.

00:25:52.280 I'll leave you with this.

00:25:53.320 Keep fighting for freedom.

00:25:54.380 How's that?

00:25:55.300 Uh, no.

00:25:55.960 Yeah.

00:25:56.320 So the elevator's this way.

00:25:57.560 If you guys want to head out.

00:25:58.520 Sure.

00:25:58.940 Appreciate it.

00:25:59.540 Sure, yeah.

00:26:00.220 Yeah.

00:26:00.680 You can head out.

00:26:01.640 Sure, yeah.

00:26:02.280 Yeah.

00:26:02.700 Yeah.

00:26:02.980 Thanks.

00:26:03.920 Let's head out, guys.

00:26:04.840 Sure, yeah.

00:26:06.180 Let's go.

00:26:06.880 Let's go.

00:26:10.780 What's that?

00:26:11.400 I have to call the call.

00:26:12.320 Well, I attended the college to the clinic, in fact, to go to my regular shift where I supervise.

00:26:21.260 I put in an eight-hour shift there.

00:26:23.420 Being their longest standing, oldest licensed doctor on staff, I thought, well, you know,

00:26:30.000 I'll just show up for my regular shift.

00:26:31.540 But I was met at the door, unfortunately, by, you know, a group of people who were bent on barring me from entering the clinic.

00:26:40.600 My supervisor very conveniently went on holidays, you know, so when the push comes to shove, they're not there.

00:26:49.480 Some students are very close to graduating.

00:26:51.940 You know, in a week, they would get their doctorate.

00:26:57.140 But, you know, to be held, as it were, at gunpoint, you know, gun to your head to not be able to graduate,

00:27:06.420 get your degree that you spent 10 years of education invested in that,

00:27:12.180 and goodness knows, way more than hundreds of thousands of dollars.

00:27:16.100 And to have that held over your head just doesn't seem right or fair to me.

00:27:22.280 It's wrong. 0.97

00:27:23.400 Just when you thought things couldn't get any more ridiculous, 0.85

00:27:27.500 this naturopathic doctor is being fired from the Canadian College of Naturopathic Medicine. 0.54

00:27:32.840 Why do you ask?

00:27:33.900 For not getting vaccinated.

00:27:35.660 That's coming up next.

00:27:39.400 Hey, guys.

00:27:40.600 Matt Brevner here for Rebel News.

00:27:42.140 And in the latest edition of Get Jabbed or Get Lost,

00:27:46.440 I bring you Canadian College of Naturopathic Medicine and Boucher Naturopathic Medical Clinic

00:27:51.780 in my hometown of New Westminster, British Columbia, the Royal City.

00:27:57.080 At the beginning of November, Boucher Medical Clinic and the CCNM sent out a mass email

00:28:02.060 to all faculty and all students, essentially saying if you do not get vaccinated,

00:28:07.340 you won't be able to graduate, you won't be able to attend in-person lessons,

00:28:11.380 you won't be able to teach, and there won't be a job for you.

00:28:14.520 So you might as well get vaccinated and get with the program or get lost.

00:28:18.520 Now, mind you, this does not apply to patients coming to the school or to the clinic.

00:28:24.060 Patients are not required to be vaccinated.

00:28:25.960 But for some reason, a naturopathy school and clinic, that's right,

00:28:30.440 a naturopathy school and clinic is requiring all of their students and all of their staff to get vaxxed.

00:28:37.380 The British Columbia Provincial Health Officer has issued an order requiring all faculty members

00:28:44.060 of post-secondary institutions employed in a care location for training to be vaccinated for COVID-19.

00:28:51.220 This order applies to all clinic staff and supervisors at the Boucher campus of CCNM.

00:28:57.660 For those hired before October 26, 2021, you must provide proof of vaccination to Dr. Fairman Young by November 29th.

00:29:07.100 A scan or PDF of your vaccination passport is sufficient.

00:29:11.020 If you have received one dose of the vaccine and are waiting to receive the second dose for a period of up to 35 days,

00:29:18.080 you may continue to work so long as you comply with the preventative measures already in place at the Boucher campus.

00:29:24.140 If hired after October 26, 2021, you may only continue to work if you are fully vaccinated.

00:29:33.060 Unfortunately, those who are not meeting the conditions that permit them to work will be placed on unpaid leave effective November 29th, 2021.

00:29:41.960 On receiving this email, Dr. Tyler decided that enough was enough.

00:29:45.660 And he wrote to his Associate Dean of Clinical Studies and Chief Medical Officer of CCM Boucher, Dr. Corinne Fairman Young,

00:29:54.180 to make his position known and to stand up for what he believes is right and also stand up for fair treatment of his students.

00:30:01.040 Dear Karen, with due respect to you and the offices you represent, and in view of imminent mandates coming to private health care,

00:30:07.900 I felt the time was now to make my position clear with regard to the current political health care conundrum we are facing.

00:30:14.280 I do not intend to be coerced into taking the COVID-19 vaccine as a condition of employment,

00:30:19.860 nor will I be relegated to second-class employee status by being forced to take regular antibody tests or the like.

00:30:26.800 My experience in our beloved profession and the science as of today has taught me that there are too many risks versus benefits of receiving these shots.

00:30:34.060 No doubt you are aware of the grievances on both sides of this rift,

00:30:38.340 and I am hopeful that we as sensible, logical human beings will be able to ford this ever-deepening river

00:30:44.440 and continue the task that has been ours from the beginning to pass on the knowledge we have gained from our elders to our students.

00:30:52.380 There are accommodations that can be made to appease the powers that be

00:30:55.680 and thereby allow us to carry on teaching while maintaining our inviolate human right to choose medical procedures.

00:31:02.620 You may have seen or heard the news reports of large school boards in Surrey,

00:31:07.100 Vancouver, New Westminster, and others taking the position to not mandate their member teachers to vaccinate.

00:31:14.360 I hope that we will be treated similarly.

00:31:16.340 Sincerely yours, Dr. Alan Scott-Tyler.

00:31:19.080 Although I wish it was under different circumstances,

00:31:21.480 I had the privilege and the distinct honour to chat with Dr. Alan Scott-Tyler, N.D.,

00:31:26.460 a naturopath of over 30 years.

00:31:28.520 In fact, his grandfather was a naturopath during the Spanish flu,

00:31:31.500 so it's in his lineage and he has a distinct understanding about alternative medicine.

00:31:36.100 We met on December 1st, his last day of work,

00:31:39.240 to discuss what's going on at Boucher Medical Clinic and what the future has in store.

00:31:44.600 Now, before we get into this interview with Dr. Tyler, I just wanted to ask,

00:31:48.180 if you have a second, please open up another tab or window and go to novaxpassports.com

00:31:53.480 and sign our petition or pitch in for our legal efforts.

00:31:56.660 We're hiring top-notch lawyers to fight against these unjust vaccine mandates

00:32:01.200 and vaccine passports on all of our behalves.

00:32:04.240 Thank you so much.

00:32:05.300 I'm here with Dr. Alan Tyler, a naturopathic doctor at the Boucher Medical Institute,

00:32:10.460 a clinic supervisor, in fact.

00:32:12.200 Can you explain to us what just happened today

00:32:13.960 and the drama that unfolded before we met you here?

00:32:17.940 Yes.

00:32:18.780 Yes.

00:32:19.340 Well, I attended the college to the clinic, in fact, to go to my regular shift where I supervise.

00:32:28.000 I put in an eight-hour shift there.

00:32:30.160 Being their longest-standing, oldest licensed doctor on staff,

00:32:35.740 I thought, well, you know, I'll just show up for my regular shift.

00:32:38.400 But I was met at the door, unfortunately, by a group of people

00:32:42.880 who were bent on barring me from entering the clinic,

00:32:47.300 which I find strange because patients go in

00:32:52.860 and they're not asked any questions about their status with respect to this mandate.

00:32:59.940 Anyways, the argument that I got at the door, barring me from entering,

00:33:05.420 was that they're just following orders.

00:33:08.320 So just following the public health order.

00:33:11.020 And my question to them was, well, do you not have any options?

00:33:16.300 And they said, well, no, we don't have any choice in the matter.

00:33:19.900 We have to follow the public health order.

00:33:22.300 Being a service provider, public health service provider,

00:33:27.740 I can see perhaps a point there, but there are ways to work around these issues.

00:33:33.400 You know, we can do remote consultations,

00:33:37.660 and lots of doctors are doing that on every level.

00:33:41.020 Whether they're medical doctors or chiropractors cannot probably,

00:33:46.300 but certainly naturopathic physicians have been remotely

00:33:49.760 seeing patients for a couple of years now.

00:33:53.440 And it's all acceptable medical practice, as you probably know.

00:33:59.100 Maybe we should rewind a little bit here.

00:34:01.040 I'm a bit confused as to how it got to this point in the first place.

00:34:05.260 Was there any sort of correspondence that was issued to you or the students or anything else

00:34:11.100 expecting this to be a mass exodus date?

00:34:15.200 Like, how did we get here?

00:34:16.240 Right.

00:34:16.640 Well, emails were sent out.

00:34:19.000 They were just basically copied and pasted from the public health officer.

00:34:24.280 There was really no personal contact between the school and myself.

00:34:30.400 As a former school board member, I can tell you that's not normally the way we would do things.

00:34:37.540 You personally reach out to people, especially people that you work closely with,

00:34:42.020 like they do with me, and they have the utmost trust in me to take care of the patients

00:34:47.720 and to guide and teach the student clinicians, but I received no such contact.

00:34:56.040 I didn't get the personal calls.

00:34:59.480 I didn't get personal emails.

00:35:01.440 I just got copied and pasted data, which half of it, you know,

00:35:06.160 I just don't even read it sometimes because it just, it's junk mail.

00:35:10.360 Right.

00:35:10.480 But I would have thought I would have been afforded some, you know, dignity, if you will,

00:35:17.880 given how long and how many years I put into this place.

00:35:21.520 I would hope there will be some future consideration for some accommodations for the students

00:35:27.500 so that they can continue and complete their program.

00:35:30.760 Some of them are one week from graduation, and they've been just surreptitiously cast to the curb.

00:35:38.700 That is just not fair.

00:35:40.480 All right.

00:35:41.260 And it's certainly, there's a legality component there too, which that will be for someone else to determine.

00:35:48.380 Right.

00:35:49.600 In my opinion, anyway, but I just am left with a really heavy heart over what's happened here at our school.

00:35:59.260 Naturopathic medicine is really about, you know, the alternative approach.

00:36:04.900 And nature care has been around for a long time.

00:36:08.040 I trust that it will continue.

00:36:09.380 But the mandate or forcing people to do things against their will, coercing them, you know,

00:36:18.100 you can't graduate unless you do what we say with respect to your health.

00:36:22.940 We are autonomous people.

00:36:24.420 You know, we have charter rights and no emergency conditions can override that.

00:36:32.560 And the assistant dean wasn't there.

00:36:35.160 That's correct.

00:36:36.100 My supervisor very conveniently went on holidays, you know, so when the push comes to shove, they're not there.

00:36:46.020 Either to address your concerns personally, professionally, with, you know, respect and kindness, they just disappear, run away.

00:36:56.840 You know, some students are very close to graduating, you know, in a week they would get their doctorate.

00:37:04.380 But, you know, to be held, as it were, at gunpoint, you know, gun to your head to not be able to graduate, get your degree that you spent 10 years of education invested in that.

00:37:19.840 And goodness knows, way more than hundreds of thousands of dollars, and to have that held over your head just doesn't seem right or fair to me.

00:37:29.820 It's wrong.

00:37:31.300 Private medical associations are still dragging their feet, if you will.

00:37:37.140 They haven't committed to agreeing to the mandate.

00:37:40.580 We're still waiting to hear from the British Columbia College of Physicians and Surgeons, who represent medical doctors.

00:37:47.760 If they're in an institution like a hospital, they have to follow the mandate or be on unpaid leave, like myself.

00:37:54.820 If they're in private practice, they have still the option to either follow this mandate or not.

00:38:03.140 And as I said, we're still waiting to hear what they have to say.

00:38:06.940 But I suspect our medical system couldn't tolerate the damage that will be incurred by a lot of private medical doctors walking away.

00:38:18.560 Now, there are only about 800 licensed naturopathic physicians.

00:38:23.980 They are not all interested in following the mandate accordingly, but we'll see how that plays out.

00:38:32.540 What would be your guess as to how many people in your industry are taking a similar stance as yourself?

00:38:37.880 Probably, my guess would be about a third of the doctors are kind of waiting to see what happens.

00:38:46.180 We're hoping that we won't be forced into following the mandate.

00:38:50.580 You know, I don't know whatever happened to free choice.

00:38:55.280 It's just beyond understanding.

00:38:59.800 There's no logic to it whatsoever.

00:39:01.840 You know, I have 35 years of experience.

00:39:04.060 Nobody can hold a candle to my experience.

00:39:06.700 I'm not bragging.

00:39:07.400 It's just the way it is.

00:39:08.960 I love my students.

00:39:10.960 They need what I have, what I've gleaned from 35 years of work.

00:39:15.240 They're not going to get that.

00:39:17.280 It's sad.

00:39:18.580 It's sad.

00:39:19.220 There are other supervisors there, but they don't have near the experience that I have.

00:39:23.880 But, you know, if you want to throw away your best supervisors, I just don't get that.

00:39:30.500 So I won't be teaching there any longer.

00:39:32.740 I teach master classes in clinical education there also.

00:39:38.260 I also am the historian.

00:39:39.840 I teach the history class to the third and fourth year students.

00:39:44.280 I don't know who knows the history better than I do.

00:39:47.100 I would love to meet them.

00:39:48.880 I'm not bragging.

00:39:49.960 I'm just saying I lived through it.

00:39:51.640 And I know all the doctors before who are now dead and gone, they were the ones that built this industry, this medicine for us in the province.

00:40:01.260 Almost 100 years next year.

00:40:03.360 100 years.

00:40:03.900 So it's a sad day, I think, for our profession, for our school.

00:40:11.980 I'm just hoping this whole thing blows over, like so many people.

00:40:15.600 But, you know, the reality is I don't think it will.

00:40:20.760 However, that remains to be seen.

00:40:22.820 Well, it seems that we're living in history currently, and you're writing your own history.

00:40:27.900 So I just want to say thank you genuinely from the bottom of my heart and our audience for what you're doing.

00:40:32.180 We really appreciate you.

00:40:33.000 Thank you for your time.

00:40:33.900 Thank you very much.

00:40:35.040 Appreciate it.

00:40:35.600 I reached out to Dr. Fairman-Young regarding the implementation of this latest policy because, by my understanding, it seems to be in direct violation of their code of ethics and their values.

00:40:43.940 I'm yet to receive a response.

00:40:45.620 But if I do, it will be included in the write-up below.

00:40:51.240 I really do wish Dr. Tyler the best, and I hope that Boucher Medical Clinic and the CCNM gets their act together and figures this thing out.

00:40:58.640 It's just, it doesn't make any sense to me.

00:41:00.440 In fact, there was one student who reached out to us who, after nine years in this school, nine years on his medical program, he's one week away from graduation, and they're not letting him graduate unless he gets vaccinated.

00:41:13.440 So he's decided to, in fact, get the Johnson & Johnson single dose because he felt that was best for him and in his situation so that he can graduate.

00:41:21.720 Now, this isn't a decision that he's making lightly.

00:41:24.180 We're talking about a $200,000 plus diploma, years and years and years of life, basically dedicating his life work and is having his arm being twisted and coerced to do something that he's fearful that could be harmful for him.

00:41:37.820 Now, this is basically a trained medical professional that's concerned that his health might be in jeopardy by taking this jab so that he can practice health.

00:41:50.960 The whole thing's gone wacky and gone completely sideways.

00:41:54.940 But anyways, if you appreciate reports like this and people like us and my colleagues bringing you the other side of the story, I ask you, please go to rebelfieldreports.com and donate what you can to our journalism.

00:42:06.360 Everything there goes to help for things like gas money and pitching in so we can bring you reports like this and continue bringing you the other side of the story.

00:42:14.560 Thank you so much.

Rebel News Podcast - December 10, 2021

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