Rebel News Podcast - December 20, 2024


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Who is this extremist and why is he in Canada？

Topics
U.A. Smotala
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Donald Trump Justin Trudeau Gordon Chang David Sachs Xi Jinping Bedminster Leviathan Hitler Biden Vandenberg Space Force Mark Andreessen Stephen Harper Danielle Smith Call Rocklink U.A. Smotala Uwais Motala Tamara Leach Bloody Laser Kim Jong-un X. Thank and 3 more
SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Trump, Trudeau, and Freeland are making Canadian politics wildly exciting this holiday season EZRA LEVANT ｜ Terrorists open fire on a Jewish girls’ school... for a third time

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In the age of selfies and ubiquitous cell phone video, pro-Hamas activists are as brazen and braggarts as the terrorists who carried out the attack on southern Israel on October 7th, 2323. They live streamed it all and bragged about it on social media, and the Israel Defense Forces used some of the selfies, the selfie videos and photos of the terrorists to later track them down and kill them.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. I want to show you a crazy video today. And I really want you to see the
00:00:03.760 video because you got to see the face of the guy who's saying it. And you got to see all his
00:00:07.820 Instagram pics too. I think he's tantamount to a terrorist and he's roaming around the streets of 0.90
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00:01:47.660 Tonight, why is a man named U.A. Smotala in Canada and on our streets? It's December 19th and this is
00:01:55.440 The Ezra Levant Show. Shame on you, you censorious bug.
00:02:11.320 The thing about the October 7th, 2023 terrorist attack on southern Israel that was so shocking is
00:02:18.060 that the terrorists themselves filmed it all. They live-streamed it. They wanted the world to see
00:02:24.140 their horrific torture and murder. They bragged about it. There were thousands of different
00:02:30.260 images. They basically took pictures of their massacre. It was like the Holocaust imagery from 0.70
00:02:38.160 the 1940s had been colorized and come alive. It was absolutely shocking. And that's the age we live 0.76
00:02:45.840 in. The social media and everyone has their own video camera. What's interesting about that is it
00:02:51.840 allows people to be identified? And the Israel Defense Forces used some of the selfies, the selfie videos
00:03:00.100 and photos of the terrorists to later track them down and kill them. Here in Canada, the pro-Hamas 0.95
00:03:07.560 street protesters often film themselves. It's something that their Antifa allies have learned not to do.
00:03:14.760 You've probably heard the phrase, the Black Block. It's not the name of a group. It's the name of a
00:03:19.920 style or a tactic to dress from head to toe in black. No distinguishing characteristics. They love
00:03:27.780 the fact that masks were normalized during COVID. The idea of the Black Block tactic is everyone looks 0.86
00:03:34.800 the same. There's no one that's identifiable. You can't, and they often have black umbrellas too to hide
00:03:41.920 cameras. Antifa does not want to be identified. Hamas, some of them follow the Antifa ways. Some of them
00:03:49.860 wear masks to terrorize and to be anonymous, but many of them are as brazen and braggarts as the 0.79
00:03:56.920 terrorists on October 7th, 2023. And so it is that in this age of selfies and ubiquitous cell phone
00:04:03.920 video, that there are some people online who have made a kind of hobby out of tracking down who these
00:04:10.900 Hamas protesters are. And one of them is someone who I don't know his or her real name, but they go by
00:04:17.060 Leviathan online. And what's interesting is whoever this person, or frankly, it could be a group of
00:04:23.780 people are, they look at open source, publicly available social media photos and try and match
00:04:32.480 who's who, and maybe do a reverse image search and say, well, who is this protester in their real life?
00:04:38.820 Oh, they run this restaurant, or they work for this government agency. It's interesting that one of the
00:04:44.440 most astonishing cases was an absolute Nazi, literally giving the Nazi salute, was working in a Jewish 0.87
00:04:52.640 hospital in a kosher restaurant, but a complete Nazi Hamas supporter. Just incredible. 0.91
00:04:58.120 So Leviathan tracks people down and, and not tracks them down physically, but just online finds out who
00:05:06.940 they are. And I want to show you a public rant by one such pro-Hamas activist, who, this is not a
00:05:16.340 private video, this was filmed and uploaded by this pro-Hamas activist himself. Now I want to warn you,
00:05:23.300 there is an enormous amount of profanity here. The F word is said probably a dozen times. So if you
00:05:30.820 don't want to hear that, you're going to want to skip ahead or turn the volume down. I'm going to leave
00:05:36.300 it in because I think you have to understand who we're dealing with here. So without further ado,
00:05:42.540 let me show you a video filmed by Uwais Motala, who lives in Cambridge, Ontario. Take a look and a listen.
00:05:54.320 I'm only talking to those motherfuckers that have a problem with pro-Palestine. So what are you going 0.99
00:06:01.720 to do? What are you going to do? When are you going to kill us all? When are you going to silence us all?
00:06:07.000 Put us out of our misery. Because we're going to come after you, you know that? We're coming. I don't
00:06:14.260 give a fuck what you say. We're coming. You won't be able to handle this. There's no fucking bombs. 1.00
00:06:24.700 There's not enough bombs to kill all of us. You better do it because we're going to get you for 1.00
00:06:30.680 all those dead babies, you fucking pieces of shit. Fuck you. Fuck your little white race, you 1.00
00:06:36.480 motherfucker. Fuck Christmas. This is not your fucking land. You should not be anywhere else. 1.00
00:06:47.820 Well, fuck you, motherfucker. Fuck your country. Fuck your race. Fuck your culture. Fuck Christmas. 1.00
00:06:56.120 Because the master race says so. You keep killing babies, we're going to get you, motherfuckers. 1.00
00:07:03.240 Fuck you and your rights. Fuck you and your free speech. Fuck you and your free thoughts, 1.00
00:07:11.420 your free conscience, all that fucking freedom bullshit. We're going to get you. 1.00
00:07:16.780 Well, I don't think I need to summarize, but I will. He threatens to kill Christian white people and 1.00
00:07:24.760 Jews, sure. Absolutely racist, yeah. Directed to those who would question free Palestine. So 1.00
00:07:32.000 he says, F, free speech. You will be killed. We are coming. You won't be able to handle all of this. 1.00
00:07:40.420 There's not enough bombs to kill all of us, he says. So he's both the victim and the threatener in his
00:07:46.280 own mind. You better do it because we are going to get you for all those dead babies, you effing 1.00
00:07:52.640 pieces of S-H-I-T. F you. F your little white race. And I'm not even going to say all this profanity. 1.00
00:08:00.080 F your country. F your race. F your culture. And F Christmas. Do you think that they only, 1.00
00:08:07.040 they'll stop their rage at the Jews? Do you remember why the Crusades were started? It was
00:08:12.660 the attempt for the Christian faith to retake Jerusalem. Yeah, the Jews were in the way of 1.00
00:08:17.940 the Islamists. But you hear it right here by Uwez, well, I can't even say his name.
00:08:27.020 He hates Christians even more than he hates Jews. And weirdly, he appropriates Hitler's phrase of the 0.87
00:08:33.160 master race. He calls himself the master race. It's sort of clear to me he's been reading up on
00:08:40.120 Hitler as a fanboy. He says, we're going to get you. F you and your rights. F you and your free
00:08:49.060 speech. F you on your free. It's like he's read our constitution. F you and your free conscience.
00:08:54.020 All that effing freedom BS. We're going to get you. And he was ranting. I mean, it was spitflack,
00:09:02.820 wasn't it? Uwez Motala is his name. According to Leviathan, he's the owner of AIMCAN Productions,
00:09:13.000 a videography company based out of Cambridge, Ontario. My research here comes entirely from
00:09:19.480 Leviathan. He says he provides drone production and video editing. And he's a proud graduate of
00:09:26.300 Humber College. And he used to work at Rogers TV as a production assistant. That's just his latest
00:09:33.800 rant. But on multiple times, he has gone online with similar messages, including on Remembrance Day
00:09:40.080 when he said F November 11th. That's what he thinks about veterans who fought for Canada and who died for
00:09:47.840 Canada. He said F 9-11, which he obviously treats as a happy day. And obviously he said F October 7th.
00:09:58.500 That's the Hamas attack on southern Israel. He, I mean, he's just out of control on social media. He says
00:10:08.100 the establishment, the powers, the elites must be destroyed. Whatever it is, this is, needs to die. 0.99
00:10:15.820 He said the demons need to be stopped by force. By demons he means Jews and Christians too. The world 1.00
00:10:23.140 needs an all-out war. And then he weirdly says this is our country. He's talking about Canada.
00:10:33.620 And just to be clear, I mean, sometimes people say, oh, he's only against Zionists. Not this guy.
00:10:38.460 He explicitly says Jews. He explicitly talks about Christians as if he needed any clarification.
00:10:45.680 I just want to show you that clip one more time now that I've gone through and sort of parsed it.
00:10:51.000 And as I talk, we'll show more images that Leviathan has captured because, of course,
00:10:56.780 that video is very dramatic. But he says even crazier things in still images. Here just for a second,
00:11:03.500 and I hate to do it to you, but I just want you to see, this guy is still at large, what he is saying
00:11:08.440 about taking back what he regards as his country by force. F Christmas, F 9-11, F November 11. Take a look.
00:11:17.880 I'm only talking to those motherfuckers that have a problem with pro-Palestine. 0.99
00:11:23.340 So what are you going to do? What are you going to do? When are you going to kill us all? 0.99
00:11:29.020 When are you going to silence us all? Put us out of our misery? 1.00
00:11:33.080 Because we're going to come after you, you know that? We're coming.
00:11:37.100 I don't give a fuck what you say. We're coming. 1.00
00:11:44.100 You won't be able to handle this. There's no fucking bombs. There's not enough bombs to kill all of us. 1.00
00:11:51.120 You better do it, because we're going to get you. For all those dead babies, you fucking pieces of shit. 1.00
00:11:56.960 Fuck you. Fuck your little white race, you motherfucker. 1.00
00:12:02.640 Fuck Christmas. 1.00
00:12:05.520 This is not your fucking land. You should not be anywhere else. 1.00
00:12:11.160 But fuck you, motherfucker. Fuck your country. Fuck your race. Fuck your culture. Fuck Christmas. 1.00
00:12:17.700 Because the master race says so. 1.00
00:12:23.280 You keep killing babies, we're going to get you, motherfuckers. 1.00
00:12:28.600 Fuck you and your rights. 1.00
00:12:30.620 Fuck you and your free speech. 1.00
00:12:32.680 Fuck you and your free thoughts. 1.00
00:12:34.760 Your free conscience. 1.00
00:12:36.240 All that fucking freedom bullshit. 1.00
00:12:39.140 We're going to get you. 1.00
00:12:40.120 Yeah. Now, I'm for free speech, but this guy is calling for murder, I think.
00:12:48.400 I know one thing. 0.95
00:12:49.560 If this guy were white, old stock Canadian, and if he were making threats like this about gay people, about Muslim people, 0.97
00:12:58.520 you bet the police would come to his house and knock on his door and probably charge him with a hate crime.
00:13:05.020 I mean, compare what this guy does and says to what the peaceful convoy truckers did in 2022.
00:13:13.180 And they were arrested and jailed, and, you know, many of them are still on trial, like our friend Tamara Leach.
00:13:19.160 Now, this is just what was captured in one instance by Leviathan.
00:13:23.640 In English.
00:13:24.960 You can only imagine what's said in foreign languages like Arabic and Farsi.
00:13:29.280 And this is the two-tier policing I'm telling you about.
00:13:33.880 I was at a street corner in broad daylight in my own neighborhood in Toronto, and police arrested me.
00:13:41.980 You saw the footage.
00:13:43.320 Because my mere presence, said the cop, would incite a breach of the peace.
00:13:48.460 Here's a reminder of Officer McDuff telling me what I was doing criminally.
00:13:52.800 Take a look.
00:13:53.380 You had a designated area to stay in, and you agreed to stay in it.
00:13:56.660 I did not.
00:13:57.600 What are you talking about?
00:13:58.360 Well, absolutely.
00:13:59.520 Acting Inspector Ford told me they had a media area for you, and you guys stayed in it.
00:14:02.780 We did not.
00:14:03.420 And they came back.
00:14:03.940 We did not.
00:14:04.660 Well.
00:14:04.940 Because it's not up to him to say you have free speech there, but not here.
00:14:08.140 Well, yeah, because you're inciting this crowd, and then it breaches the peace.
00:14:12.060 Well, your presence is inciting them, and that's exactly what you're trying to do.
00:14:15.640 Because I'm a Jew.
00:14:16.200 No, because you're trying to incite them.
00:14:17.680 I haven't tried to incite them.
00:14:18.800 I want you to take a picture of the hate crime that you're abiding.
00:14:21.240 Well, you could have done it on the other side.
00:14:22.200 You didn't need to walk over here.
00:14:23.380 No, I wanted to go out here.
00:14:24.620 Okay, now I'm going to tell you to move over there. 1.00
00:14:26.360 And if you don't cross the road, you'll get arrested for breach of the peace.
00:14:29.320 Yeah.
00:14:29.540 I allowed you to take that.
00:14:30.640 Yeah.
00:14:30.840 So you're refusing to leave?
00:14:32.380 I'm refusing to leave.
00:14:33.480 Why?
00:14:34.240 Because I'm a Jew, I'm a citizen, and I'm your boss.
00:14:38.240 And I don't leave because you say Jews aren't allowed on the streets.
00:14:41.360 Well, you know what?
00:14:41.380 In the interest of keeping peace here and public safety, you're under arrest for breach of
00:14:44.860 the peace.
00:14:45.360 Take them in.
00:14:48.140 Got it.
00:14:48.680 So standing there, peacefully, on a public sidewalk, trying to photograph some super
00:14:54.200 gross Hamas reenactment, that was illegal.
00:14:58.120 And that was enough to arrest me, handcuff me, take me in a police car to jail, and hold
00:15:03.640 me for several hours until I was released.
00:15:06.360 Just standing there.
00:15:08.000 But that insane rant, calling for murder, calling for violence, yeah, no problem.
00:15:16.220 You know why?
00:15:17.620 Because Justin Trudeau has let in millions of people like that.
00:15:22.860 And that guy, frankly, in the car, it felt like the kind of a video that an ISIS terrorist
00:15:28.020 would record right before he does his nasty work.
00:15:31.180 In fact, let me play for you one of the clips of the terrorists who went and attacked Parliament
00:15:39.280 Hill.
00:15:39.660 You might remember the storming of Parliament Hill by an ISIS gunman.
00:15:46.060 Look at the similarities between these two and their cell phone video recordings from
00:15:50.960 their car.
00:15:51.380 Remember this?
00:15:52.000 For those who are involved in listening to this movie, this is a retaliation for Afghanistan 0.82
00:15:56.140 and it has helped us to make some troops for us.
00:16:00.120 So we are retaliating in the Mujahideen of this world. 0.99
00:16:02.780 We have to become one of our enemies by fighting and bombing us and creating a lot of terror in 0.97
00:16:08.160 our country and killing us, killing our enemies. 0.92
00:16:11.000 So just telling me if I'm soldiers, just to show you that you're not going to be safe
00:16:15.140 in your own land, you've got to be careful.
00:16:17.580 So may Allah accept from us.
00:16:19.160 It's a disgrace you guys have forgotten God and have you left every indecency in things
00:16:24.520 run in your land.
00:16:25.920 We don't go for this.
00:16:27.740 We are good people, righteous people, believers of God and believe in His laws and His prophets.
00:16:31.540 Peace upon them all.
00:16:32.860 So that's my message to all of you and this, inshallah, will not cease till you guys decide
00:16:36.920 to be a peaceful country and stay to your own and stop going to other countries and stop
00:16:40.600 occupying and killing the righteous of us who are trying to bring back religious law in 0.98
00:16:44.660 our country. 0.97
00:16:45.660 Thank you.
00:16:46.120 Yeah, that Uwais fella is like one inch away from, I mean, he's agitated.
00:16:51.480 He's revved up.
00:16:52.480 He's been extremely radicalized.
00:16:55.080 I don't know if he's a Canadian born.
00:16:57.680 He's got a bit of an accent, but maybe he's just growing up in Hamas's sagas or something.
00:17:02.940 I suspect that he's an immigrant to Canada, either under Trudeau or perhaps even under
00:17:07.920 Stephen Harper.
00:17:08.560 I think that we have a crisis in Canada and we have many crises and every single one of
00:17:15.700 them is made worse by mass immigration. 0.97
00:17:18.120 Every financial indicator, health care waiting lists, the unaffordability of housing and groceries,
00:17:26.760 even traffic.
00:17:27.660 It's all worse because of mass immigration. 1.00
00:17:30.680 But one thing mass immigration has also brought to our country are hundreds of thousands of
00:17:36.280 people who think just like this little terrorist does.
00:17:40.180 And the problem with having 100,000 violently oriented men like that is we don't have that
00:17:46.940 many police in this country.
00:17:48.280 And that's why police were very brave to arrest me, a middle-aged Jew, for being on the public
00:17:55.500 sidewalk because they knew I wasn't going to blow anything up or threaten anyone with
00:17:59.840 murder.
00:18:00.840 But how many of those Uwe's fellas, that's his name, are there amongst the pro-Hamas protesters
00:18:07.360 just ready to go off?
00:18:09.400 Our police are afraid.
00:18:11.920 And if they're not afraid, well, our politicians certainly are.
00:18:15.540 What the hell is that guy even doing in Canada?
00:18:19.800 Stay with us. 0.57
00:18:20.700 More ahead.
00:18:32.840 Well, here in Canada, we are obsessed with Canada.
00:18:36.100 I suppose it's human nature to think of yourself as the center of the universe.
00:18:39.700 I refer to that in terms of Donald Trump, who is accomplishing a tremendous amount of things
00:18:45.280 based out of Mar-a-Lago before he's even inaugurated as the president.
00:18:50.480 He's conducting diplomacy and economic diplomacy.
00:18:54.240 And he certainly got Canadians in a tizzy with his social media posts about us becoming
00:18:59.660 the 51st state.
00:19:00.860 But I dare say that he actually has bigger fish to fry rather than poking at Canadian 0.60
00:19:07.280 inferiority complexes, whether it's ending the Russia-Ukraine war, trying to restart the
00:19:14.540 Abraham Accords in the Middle East, or dealing with America's largest economic and military
00:19:21.180 rival.
00:19:21.900 I do not believe that is Russia.
00:19:23.440 I believe that is communist China.
00:19:25.860 And joining us now to talk about this is an expert who has been tracking the subject for
00:19:31.320 years.
00:19:32.040 He's the author of the new book, Plan Red, China's Project to Destroy America.
00:19:38.720 You know him as our favorite expert on the subject, Gordon G. Chang, who joins us now.
00:19:44.360 Gordon, great to see you again.
00:19:46.320 Thank you so much, Ezra.
00:19:47.220 You know, we, everyone, I guess, is interested in themselves.
00:19:50.460 And so Canadians are focused on our own navel.
00:19:53.720 But I tell you, Donald Trump, I mean, one of the signature items of his first term was
00:19:58.860 his approach to China.
00:20:01.140 Give me your thoughts on Trump's approach in his second term towards China.
00:20:06.500 Is there anything different?
00:20:07.820 Are any of the crises more further developed?
00:20:10.360 What's the thinking in Mar-a-Lago?
00:20:13.580 Yeah, that's great.
00:20:15.000 And we don't exactly know how Trump is going to deal with China because he's been sending 1.00
00:20:20.420 out various signals.
00:20:21.660 Now, during the campaign, he talked about tariffs, a 10 percent tariff for fentanyl and tariffs
00:20:28.680 across the board of at least 60 percent.
00:20:31.760 And he even mentioned 100 percent on Chinese goods.
00:20:36.260 What we've seen recently, though, in last several weeks is a very different Donald Trump.
00:20:42.040 When he was in Paris for the Notre Dame opening, he talked about China can help with Ukraine.
00:20:50.440 And on Monday, the 16th, when he gave his impromptu press conference at Mar-a-Lago,
00:20:55.820 he said China and the United States can solve all the world's problems.
00:21:00.380 He called Xi Jinping amazing.
00:21:02.740 And as we all know, he invited Xi Jinping to the inauguration.
00:21:06.860 So it looks like he is trying to end up with some sort of grand bargain with China.
00:21:12.980 But we will only know once he actually enters the Oval Office, because there's just so many
00:21:18.280 different signals right now.
00:21:20.980 Right.
00:21:21.380 And Trump, I mean, I just reordered.
00:21:24.900 I was looking for my old copy of The Art of the Deal, and I couldn't find it.
00:21:27.980 So I ordered that old book again.
00:21:29.120 But I think that a lot of that decodes Trump.
00:21:33.080 He talks about how he uses dramatic offers just to reset things, how he likes to push
00:21:38.420 the other guy back a bit to knock him off balance.
00:21:42.680 And I think flattery is part of that.
00:21:45.380 And I remember in his first term when he was dealing with North Korea's Kim Jong-un,
00:21:50.500 how he would rave about him.
00:21:52.960 And I think Trump gives and Trump takes away.
00:21:57.060 So I wouldn't put too much stock in flattery, because I but I mean, it's something to keep
00:22:05.440 an eye on.
00:22:06.220 Do you think Xi Jinping is actually going to attend the inauguration?
00:22:11.340 I don't think so, Ezra.
00:22:14.300 At the 16th, Trump said, you know, Xi Jinping has not turned down his invitation, which is
00:22:20.860 contrary to what people have been reporting.
00:22:24.100 But it's pretty unlikely, because this would be China's leader, who believes that he is
00:22:29.740 now in charge of the world, who thinks the United States is in terminal decline, going
00:22:34.460 to a ceremony honoring a peaceful transfer in a democracy.
00:22:39.480 Right.
00:22:39.720 And of course, the Communist Party has taxed not only the United States, but it taxed the 0.87
00:22:44.920 concept of democracy in general.
00:22:46.980 So it would be a very difficult thing for Xi Jinping to swallow.
00:22:49.640 Right.
00:22:51.440 Yeah.
00:22:52.220 I mean, but it's I think that's Trump given the love Trump in Trump's mind.
00:22:59.160 He's praising.
00:23:00.860 He's opening the doors.
00:23:02.680 I mean, he certainly isn't saying that about Justin Trudeau.
00:23:05.640 And there was a historical precedent.
00:23:08.080 I mean, it used to be that there was sort of an order.
00:23:11.780 Mexico and Canada typically were the first two visits or meetings that America had.
00:23:18.480 But those days are long gone.
00:23:20.320 Hey, let me ask you one more thing about China that's been on my mind.
00:23:24.900 We haven't had this phenomenon in Canada that I'm aware of.
00:23:27.800 But for the past couple of weeks, there have been reports of all sorts of drone sightings in
00:23:34.580 various states of the U.S. and lots of citizen journalists taking photos of them.
00:23:40.120 I'm not sure how many were just mistaken for airplanes or how many are even just hoaxes.
00:23:45.900 But there's a lot of unidentified objects flying around.
00:23:49.960 This reminds a lot of people of that Chinese spy balloon that came down from Canada over the American
00:23:57.520 Heartland.
00:23:58.100 And it was just so obviously a nefarious major aircraft.
00:24:04.960 Do we know what these drones across America were?
00:24:09.060 I know some people have speculated that they're foreign and foreign drones or spy drones.
00:24:14.440 Do we know anything about that yet?
00:24:17.160 There are several things that we know.
00:24:20.160 There's really two sets of drones.
00:24:22.520 There are the drones that we know about from China and possibly from other foreign powers
00:24:29.360 that have been surveilling U.S. weapons facilities and military bases.
00:24:35.200 So, for instance, the Chinese national has been charged with flying a drone over Vandenberg Space
00:24:39.980 Force base.
00:24:41.500 And there have been these large drones over Langley Air Force Base in Virginia.
00:24:46.140 So, that we have a pretty good handle on because most of those do appear to be from China.
00:24:53.200 But you talked about another drone phenomena, which is over my state of New Jersey, where
00:24:58.780 there have been all sorts of objects that have been identified, especially over the last three
00:25:03.720 weeks.
00:25:04.600 And it's also another 14 states.
00:25:08.000 This is a mystery.
00:25:10.220 Now, Trump at his press conference on the 16th said that the federal government knows exactly
00:25:15.280 what's going on, but has not told the American public.
00:25:18.820 We have heard all of these comments from the Biden administration and from the Pentagon saying
00:25:24.260 that there's nothing unusual.
00:25:26.560 But that really doesn't fit in with the sightings that we have seen.
00:25:30.660 So, there's a lot of speculation and much of it is ominous.
00:25:34.700 As a matter of fact, just for example, the Pentagon says that these drones are domestic.
00:25:41.140 If they're domestic, I'm much more worried because it appears then that there probably 1.00
00:25:46.300 is some sort of federal operation over New Jersey.
00:25:50.520 And they could very well be sniffing, which is the military term.
00:25:53.840 They could be sniffing for radiation.
00:25:56.060 Wow.
00:25:56.720 It is terrifying.
00:25:58.080 And it is the kind of thing that the public, if they are not told the answer, I can only imagine
00:26:04.040 speculation and imagination and worst case scenarios.
00:26:06.900 I don't think the world in general knew how progressed drone warfare was until we saw it
00:26:13.220 in Ukraine, Russia, and we saw it in Gaza.
00:26:16.540 I mean, it is the pointy edge of the spear in terms of 21st century warfare, especially
00:26:21.820 asymmetrical warfare.
00:26:23.920 Even naval drones, the drones that Ukraine has used to sink capital ships of the Russian 0.86
00:26:31.620 Navy, you know, those drones might cost a few thousand bucks. 1.00
00:26:35.280 They're sinking hundreds of millions of dollars worth of ships.
00:26:38.340 I think drones, there's an aura of terror about them because they sneak up at you.
00:26:45.500 They can be micro-targeted individual people.
00:26:48.480 I don't know.
00:26:49.040 I think the administration should certainly clear the air.
00:26:52.020 Do you think Trump is getting a briefing on that?
00:26:54.220 I'm not sure what briefings he would get as a president-elect.
00:26:57.860 Do you think he knows, but he's just not being permitted to say?
00:27:00.660 Yes, because he did say that he was briefed.
00:27:05.560 But of course, he can't talk about it.
00:27:07.900 Can you comment on the drones that are flying around New Jersey's reports?
00:27:11.780 It seems like the American people have a big disk.
00:27:13.920 The government knows what is happening.
00:27:17.820 Look, our military knows where they took off from.
00:27:22.620 If it's a garage, they can go right into that garage.
00:27:25.340 They know where it came from and where it went.
00:27:29.620 And for some reason, they don't want to comment.
00:27:32.300 And I think they'd be better off saying what it is.
00:27:34.300 Our military knows and our president knows.
00:27:37.760 And for some reason, they want to keep people in suspense.
00:27:40.820 I can't imagine it's the enemy because if it was the enemy,
00:27:43.660 they'd blast it out.
00:27:45.060 Even if they were late, they'd blast it.
00:27:48.320 Something strange is going on.
00:27:49.880 For some reason, they don't want to tell the people.
00:27:51.680 And they should because the people are really, I mean,
00:27:54.600 they happen to be over Bedminster.
00:27:56.600 They're very close to Bedminster.
00:28:01.060 I think maybe I won't spend the weekend in Bedminster.
00:28:03.940 I've decided to cancel my trip.
00:28:06.340 Have you received an intelligence briefing on the drones?
00:28:08.620 I don't want to comment on that.
00:28:10.020 Do you have any reason to think they're a threat?
00:28:12.620 Now, there have been classified briefings
00:28:14.940 from members of Congress more recently, this week.
00:28:18.600 And they basically said nothing out of the ordinary.
00:28:22.600 But that doesn't comport with many of the sightings that we have seen.
00:28:27.480 So, for instance, there have been a number of people who have said
00:28:31.280 drones have been coming over New Jersey from the Atlantic.
00:28:35.660 And that would not be consistent with what the Pentagon has been saying.
00:28:40.400 So we've got to be extremely concerned.
00:28:42.320 And then, of course, there's the behavior of some of these drones,
00:28:44.960 which don't, you know, they're the size of cars.
00:28:47.200 So these are not hobbyists.
00:28:49.760 And also, they've been operating in ways which we don't have seen
00:28:54.020 from commercial drones.
00:28:56.040 You know, I'd like to make a tiny confession.
00:28:58.520 I have a drone.
00:29:00.340 And it's from one of the more popular consumer drone companies called DJI.
00:29:06.420 But really, every drone you go to buy is made in China.
00:29:10.800 And more than that, the information from your drone is routed through China and back to you.
00:29:19.220 So, I mean, the drone that I have, it's a toy for me and the kids.
00:29:24.600 But everything that that drone sees is, I'm sure, being backed up in some giant mass data center.
00:29:35.460 I'm sure that the Chinese government has mapped almost every square inch of America,
00:29:39.540 not even with their own spy drones, but with hobbyist users like me who, you know,
00:29:45.740 I mean, they're not going to get anything interesting from me.
00:29:49.300 But I think that there's a real, and closed circuit TV companies, a lot of surveillance cameras,
00:29:55.720 same thing, they're routed through China.
00:29:57.880 I think we're spying on ourselves.
00:30:00.220 And just all that mass data is going to China.
00:30:05.080 I mean, I'm sure they're getting extra things from these drones.
00:30:07.680 But I'm probably part of the problem myself, because I have a little toy drone.
00:30:12.000 Yeah, with a DJI drone, DJI makes about 70% of the world's drones.
00:30:17.000 With the DJI drone, there's, you have to opt out of a couple things.
00:30:22.700 And for instance, they say they send everything to the cloud, unless you don't want them to do that.
00:30:27.660 Okay.
00:30:28.020 And, you know, I don't have a drone, so I haven't seen this.
00:30:31.280 But there are ways that you can maybe prevent China from getting that information.
00:30:36.380 But, you know, you're absolutely right.
00:30:37.760 We're spying on ourselves.
00:30:39.520 And I didn't know there was that opt out.
00:30:41.480 I mean, there's an intense amount of information that's being shared in all the visuals.
00:30:46.660 Let me ask you one last question, sort of in this vein.
00:30:49.800 I'm frustrated by the fact that China is a leader in drones.
00:30:52.980 And I don't know if there was a government policy decision behind that.
00:30:56.500 I think that there was a government policy under Biden to heavily regulate artificial intelligence.
00:31:04.560 And at least that's what some people in the industry said, including, you know, venture capitalists and sort of angel investors like Mark Andreessen.
00:31:12.720 And Donald Trump is taking a different approach.
00:31:15.920 He appointed David Sachs to be the czar of not just cryptocurrencies, but AI, with a mandate to make them free and American.
00:31:26.080 I'm worried about Chinese AI in a number of ways.
00:31:32.520 Do you have any opinion on that?
00:31:35.120 Do you think what should America's stance be?
00:31:38.440 According to the announcement where David Sachs was made the AI and crypto czar, I think Trump really just wanted to bring the industry back to America.
00:31:47.140 Do you know anything more about that?
00:31:49.020 Yeah, one thing we know is that China weaponizes everything that it has.
00:31:54.320 So we should not be helping China develop artificial intelligence, even if it's just for, quote unquote, civilian purposes.
00:32:02.140 Because China has this doctrine of military civil fusion, which means that everything that a civilian institution had, business, university, whatever, gets pipelined to the Chinese military if they want it.
00:32:12.940 So we should be not selling them any chips, any technology.
00:32:18.120 There should be just a full wall between the United States and China. 0.98
00:32:22.860 And we should be enforcing and making sure our partners do the same thing.
00:32:28.020 Well, I tell you, there's so much to think about.
00:32:30.040 And I'm excited about your book.
00:32:31.660 I haven't read it yet, but that sounds like great Christmas reading.
00:32:34.500 We're talking, of course, with Gordon Chang.
00:32:36.540 You can follow him on Twitter at Gordon G Chang.
00:32:39.460 And his new book, I'm going to pick it up and read it over Christmas, is called Plan Red, China's Project to Destroy America.
00:32:47.640 Well, I hope they fail in that project, and I hope your warnings are being heeded.
00:32:51.840 Can I ask you a personal question?
00:32:53.200 You don't have to answer it if it violates your confidence.
00:32:57.060 Have you been contacted by people within the nascent administration?
00:33:02.600 Have you been invited to participate?
00:33:04.840 I mean, my guess is you're not allowed to answer that question if the answer was yes.
00:33:08.580 But I hope that the incoming administration taps into your expertise and your knowledge.
00:33:14.420 I mean, it's one thing to be warning from the outside, but it would be very powerful if you had some ears on the inside.
00:33:20.880 Yeah, the answer to the question is no.
00:33:23.640 I've made it clear I don't want a job.
00:33:26.220 You know, I've already got a boss, so I don't need another one.
00:33:28.840 And, you know, my views, I think that, you know, they know what I think, so I don't think they really need to get in touch.
00:33:38.300 And, you know, my views might be considered more extreme than the views that they have.
00:33:44.460 So at this point, the answer is no.
00:33:48.380 Well, I'm sure they follow you closely.
00:33:51.040 And who knows, perhaps you'll be called to testify from time to time before Congress on important information.
00:33:56.700 And I look forward to reading your book and getting the briefing directly.
00:33:59.960 Gordon, it's great to see you again.
00:34:01.020 Merry Christmas to you and your family.
00:34:02.840 And I want to encourage people, if you're not following Gordon on Twitter, you're doing it wrong.
00:34:07.160 He is absolutely the leading source of pro-freedom, pro-Western information about China.
00:34:13.900 And you can follow him at Gordon G. Chang on Twitter, now known as X.
00:34:18.360 Thanks, my friend.
00:34:18.940 Great to see you again.
00:34:19.880 And all the best in the new year.
00:34:22.120 Thank you so much, Ezra.
00:34:23.180 All right.
00:34:23.640 There he is, Gordon Chang.
00:34:24.720 And I'm going to pick up Plan Red.
00:34:26.200 That sounds like a great Christmas read.
00:34:28.220 Stay with us.
00:34:29.440 More ahead.
00:34:37.160 Hey, welcome back.
00:34:43.220 Your Letters to Me, Bloody Laser, says,
00:34:47.300 It's so nice to have a president, once again, who is respected on the world stage.
00:34:51.340 President Trump knows Trudeau is weak.
00:34:53.940 Oh, he does.
00:34:54.800 And, you know, the more I think about it, Trump has bigger fish to fry than Justin Trudeau.
00:34:59.340 No one thinks about Justin Trudeau other than Canadians.
00:35:01.760 I mean, sure, Trudeau is getting a little bit of global attention because he's just sort of melting down.
00:35:05.820 And Trump is poking at him on Twitter.
00:35:08.140 And the whole world follows that.
00:35:10.000 But Canada, unfortunately, just isn't in the first rank of nations anymore.
00:35:14.680 No one really cares what we say or do because Trudeau has diminished us all.
00:35:20.640 J30 says,
00:35:21.500 The value of Canada as a secure nation is a far higher value to the USA than mere U.S. statehood would be.
00:35:28.040 U.S. statehood for Canada would dissolve the current international border and no tariffs could be imposed.
00:35:32.960 Of course, we'd evaporate the federal government and enjoy better taxes.
00:35:36.600 But I'm pretty sure our best path forward is to follow Danielle Smith's lead and get serious about keeping our house in order while being good neighbors and friends with the USA and the rest of the world at large.
00:35:46.980 Well, I agree.
00:35:47.840 I mean, the ideal is to have a strong, respected, respectable, happy, peaceful, prosperous and free Canada.
00:35:56.260 And I think we had that until about 10 years ago.
00:35:59.720 I think the reason why Trump's 51st state jabs hit so hard is because we have been so diminished.
00:36:06.480 And really, what is Canada anyways?
00:36:08.620 It's almost like the question, what is a woman? 0.76
00:36:11.280 We all know, but the politicians won't answer that.
00:36:13.480 If you were to ask Trudeau, what is Canada?
00:36:16.200 I don't know what he would say.
00:36:18.060 I mean, he might push play on the message track.
00:36:19.940 I love this country.
00:36:21.120 But what is this country?
00:36:22.600 He has said himself that it has no essence.
00:36:25.300 It's a post-national country, he said.
00:36:27.260 It's really he's turned it into a hotel for people.
00:36:30.700 He says we're genociders. 0.63
00:36:32.320 He says we're racist and sexist and should be ashamed of ourselves. 0.64
00:36:35.840 He's trying to destroy our history, even rewriting our anthem.
00:36:38.620 I don't know if Trudeau could answer the question, what is a woman?
00:36:42.500 And I don't know if he could answer the question, what is Canada?
00:36:45.420 So, yeah, I would like to get back to the real Canada.
00:36:47.740 By the way, I don't think Canada would all join the U.S. as one 51st state.
00:36:55.520 I think that that would be a disaster within Canada.
00:36:58.680 But it's an interesting thought exercise.
00:37:00.820 Would Alberta join?
00:37:02.380 I saw someone on Twitter do something really interesting.
00:37:05.420 If Donald Trump said, if you're born in Canada and have Canadian citizenship and you have X amount of, I forget what this thought experiment said, X amount of assets or whatever, you're welcome to come and just be an American.
00:37:19.260 How many would just leave for America?
00:37:22.120 That's how bad things are in Canada.
00:37:23.900 I think if Trump said, remember that tweet Trump did where he said anyone with a billion dollars, you're welcome to come, we'll clear all the red tape for you.
00:37:32.220 If Trump said any Canadian with a million dollars or more and a clean criminal record and a Canadian passport, if you want to come down here or if you're a medical doctor or this, like if he had, I'm just going with a thought experiment.
00:37:48.060 Out of 42 million Canadians, of whom 5 million are temporary residents courtesy of Trudeau, I bet a million people would take Trump up on the deal.
00:37:58.120 I mean, last year alone, as we showed you in that CBC story, what, 122,000 left in one year alone under current terms.
00:38:05.740 If Trump said, I'm welcoming the best and brightest, the most entrepreneurial, the most freedom-loving Canadians, come on down.
00:38:12.560 I bet you 1 million people would go.
00:38:15.420 You want to see a brain drain.
00:38:17.340 That's our show for today.
00:38:19.020 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.
00:38:24.900 We'll see you next time.