Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Why is Tamara Lich still in prison？ Plus an update from the Netherlands

00:00:00.420 Hello, my Rebels. Can you believe it? Tamera Leach is still in prison. 1.00

00:00:03.900 The Justice of the Peace, who heard her bail application a few days ago,

00:00:07.500 still hasn't bothered to make a decision.

00:00:09.680 I guess he's got more important things to do than freeing a woman from prison.

00:00:13.500 So he'll let her wait a day, and then another, and then another, and then another.

00:00:17.820 You know, he's not even a judge.

00:00:19.640 I'll tell you more about him and the rest of the stitch-up, as they say.

00:00:23.880 Plus an update from our friends in Holland.

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00:00:55.440 All right, here's today's podcast.

00:01:01.580 Tonight, why is Tamara Leach still in prison? 1.00

00:01:15.140 Plus an update from the Netherlands.

00:01:16.860 It's July 7th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:19.760 We're fighting for freedom! 0.50

00:01:23.060 Shame on you, you censorious bug!

00:01:34.480 I'm very excited about our reporters traveling to the Netherlands to follow the Farmer Rebellion.

00:01:39.940 We have a special website set up for that, farmerrebellion.com.

00:01:45.860 We have our Brit, Louis Brackpool.

00:01:49.960 He attended the World Economic Forum meeting in Davos, Switzerland, a couple of months ago.

00:01:54.160 And there's a World Economic Forum link to this Dutch crisis.

00:01:57.920 It's really weird.

00:01:58.800 And, of course, we have Lincoln Jay, who just landed in Amsterdam this morning.

00:02:06.720 You may recall him from the Trucker Rebellion in Ottawa.

00:02:09.860 I think he worked something like 23 days straight on that story in Ottawa.

00:02:14.940 He just didn't want to leave.

00:02:16.140 And he really covered it in depth.

00:02:18.020 And sometimes he just live-streamed for hours, just showing people what it looked like.

00:02:23.020 No filter, no editing.

00:02:24.620 I mean, people loved that, because they couldn't get the truth from the media party.

00:02:28.660 The media party just lied and lied.

00:02:30.040 Remember this?

00:02:30.880 I do ask that because, you know, given Canada's support of Ukraine in this current crisis with Russia,

00:02:38.200 I don't know if it's far-fetched to ask, but there is concern that Russian actors could be continuing to fuel things

00:02:47.100 as this protest grows, but perhaps even instigating it from the outset.

00:02:51.660 Well, again, I'm going to defer to our partners in the public safety, the trained officials and experts in that area.

00:03:01.820 What do you expect from Trudeau's CBC state broadcaster?

00:03:04.720 Now, the Dutch farmers have their own grievances that we'll hear about in a moment from a Dutch political commentator,

00:03:11.900 but I have seen a number of them credit the Canadian Trucker Rebellion for their Farmer Rebellion.

00:03:19.560 And that's the website where we're compiling the work from Lewis and Lincoln and two other reporters who are joining us.

00:03:24.760 I don't know, I don't think I mentioned this before, but Katie Davis Court.

00:03:29.260 She's a reporter with the Post Millennial.

00:03:31.260 Well, she'll be coming on our mission, too.

00:03:33.660 She's very brave.

00:03:34.960 She has made a name for herself reporting on Antifa riots in the United States, especially in Seattle and Portland.

00:03:42.440 And we're hoping to have a fourth journalist join as well.

00:03:46.060 I should tell you, it's very interesting.

00:03:47.820 Holland requires vaccines for people from Canada unless they're journalists.

00:03:54.980 That's one of several exemptions.

00:03:57.140 And they specifically say on their embassy's website that the reason they have a vaccine exemption for journalists,

00:04:05.960 as in you don't have to be jabbed, is because they value freedom of the press and freedom of speech.

00:04:11.380 And they don't want their vax rule to impose on that.

00:04:15.140 Isn't that incredible?

00:04:16.520 So you don't have to have a medical exemption.

00:04:19.020 You don't have to have a conscientious exemption.

00:04:21.160 You just have to be going there to shine a light of scrutiny on public policy.

00:04:25.420 And in both cases for Lincoln and Lewis, who are not jabbed, within two days, they got their approval from the Dutch embassy.

00:04:34.580 And I say that because I admire that exemption, that it's expressly for journalists, that it happened so quickly,

00:04:42.680 and that Holland, which calls itself a progressive country, actually is.

00:04:47.680 It's a pro-choice country.

00:04:49.260 I mean, they're very liberal in matters from drugs to prostitution, for example.

00:04:53.920 And indeed, they're liberal on this matter of privacy and medical choice.

00:04:58.460 Whereas Justin Trudeau, who is very liberal on matters of drugs and all other social matters,

00:05:05.660 well, if you don't take the jab, he'll lock you down.

00:05:10.840 Back to the truckers, which were an inspiration in part for these Dutch farmers. 0.78

00:05:15.780 What if we heard from Holland that some farmer was arrested and put in prison for more than five months without a trial?

00:05:27.640 Five months pre-trial, thrown in prison, five months.

00:05:31.540 Well, that's happened in Canada.

00:05:33.240 A trucker organizer named Pat King.

00:05:35.680 I have my beefs with Pat King, but five months in prison without a trial?

00:05:39.600 Or how about a friendly grandma, completely peaceful, nearly a month in jail already,

00:05:47.360 the latest spate, for taking a selfie with a political critic of the government?

00:05:53.240 Well, that is what we're talking about today, because Tamera Leach is in a prison in Ottawa tonight, 1.00

00:05:58.740 waiting till tomorrow afternoon to hear the results on her bail hearing,

00:06:03.260 even though the bail hearing happened, I think it was on Tuesday.

00:06:06.160 It was a full-day bail hearing on Tuesday.

00:06:11.500 The judge was there, the Justice of the Peace, as it's called.

00:06:14.700 He listened, and he said, well, I don't need an hour to think about this, which would have been fair.

00:06:22.700 He didn't say, I need to think about it overnight, or two nights, or three nights.

00:06:27.120 He said he needed it all the way to Friday afternoon.

00:06:30.860 He didn't give a reason.

00:06:32.120 Did he have something more pressing?

00:06:34.340 Did he have a golf game or something?

00:06:35.980 Did he have a dental appointment?

00:06:37.500 Why was it that he couldn't decide and give a quick oral ruling and then later come up with a written ruling?

00:06:44.700 Why did he have the hearing on Tuesday and yet make Tamera Leach sit in jail Tuesday night, Wednesday, 1.00

00:06:52.500 Wednesday night, Thursday, Thursday night, Friday, until 1.30?

00:06:56.800 It's a good question, I think.

00:07:01.520 The judge in this case was actually not a judge, not even a lawyer.

00:07:06.260 He's a Justice of the Peace.

00:07:07.760 His name is Paul Max Harris.

00:07:10.580 And he's not a lawyer.

00:07:13.040 His official biography says he has worked for the federal government for 16 years.

00:07:19.500 He managed procurement policy and reporting at Parks Canada.

00:07:25.400 Now, I do not disparage procurement and other works at Parks Canada.

00:07:31.740 I like Parks and I like Canada.

00:07:33.420 But he's not a lawyer.

00:07:36.520 And he was dealing with technical legal matters.

00:07:39.500 And while he waited, I don't know, to Google the law, I don't know what he was doing for three days,

00:07:44.940 a woman rotted in jail.

00:07:48.180 Does he really need three days to think about it?

00:07:50.100 There is no bail case so complicated that you need three days to think about it.

00:07:54.780 An hour, maybe, probably in real time.

00:07:59.780 Is there any accused murderer who even needs three days of cogitation?

00:08:05.340 Wouldn't you think that for a highly political case where a woman was dragged all the way across the country

00:08:11.300 because she was posing in this photograph,

00:08:14.620 this photograph was all the evidence that she should be jailed,

00:08:19.600 don't you think maybe they should have put a judge in?

00:08:21.520 Or someone with more experience than just working for Parks Canada,

00:08:26.180 someone who needs three days to think about things,

00:08:28.860 and thinks nothing of having someone,

00:08:31.160 like, wouldn't that be on your conscience?

00:08:33.260 How could you sleep at night knowing that because you're so indecisive

00:08:36.580 or don't know what you're doing or you just like to take your sweet time,

00:08:39.720 someone's in prison?

00:08:40.560 Again, not because you ruled that they should be in prison, 0.98

00:08:43.440 but just because you're so bloody slow. 0.81

00:08:47.200 So why was that person in charge of this bail hearing? 0.96

00:08:51.280 You could have had anyone.

00:08:52.180 You could have a judge.

00:08:53.340 You could have a lawyer who was a justice of the peace.

00:08:55.440 Why that person?

00:08:57.260 And why, of all the prosecutors in Ottawa, a city of a million people,

00:09:02.280 why the prosecutor that they chose,

00:09:05.100 a prosecutor who, according to research from our friends at True North,

00:09:08.440 personally donated $17,000 to the Liberal Party of Canada.

00:09:16.700 I mean, $1,700 is an enormous donation.

00:09:20.420 $17,000?

00:09:22.800 And it came out in the hearing that the cop issued a national warrant.

00:09:30.840 That's the kind of thing, as you know, that you do for murders or runaways

00:09:35.200 or like extreme national alerts, not for some tweet picture of a selfie.

00:09:42.320 And we learned from the hearing that the cop who did that did not seek a legal opinion.

00:09:47.600 Of course, police forces have lawyers that they can access,

00:09:51.240 the Justice Department get an opinion from a prosecutor.

00:09:54.240 If there's some iffy area, a cop is not expected to be a lawyer.

00:09:57.580 A cop's a cop.

00:09:58.480 A lawyer's a lawyer.

00:09:59.440 If a cop has questions, he can ask a lawyer.

00:10:01.880 And in this case, that selfie was published in June 16th.

00:10:04.980 She wasn't arrested till much later.

00:10:06.580 That cop had weeks to put the question to a lawyer and say,

00:10:10.780 hey, does this pass muster?

00:10:12.060 Hey, do you think we should issue a national warrant?

00:10:14.340 Hey, do you think we should do that?

00:10:16.160 The cop didn't seek legal advice.

00:10:18.500 He just ordered it.

00:10:20.840 And the cop who was on trial,

00:10:24.060 or not on trial, the cop who was in the witness stand

00:10:26.420 giving his evidence to this non-lawyer

00:10:29.160 at the leading questions of the liberal prosecutor

00:10:33.100 admitted he had no idea who the other people in the room were,

00:10:37.260 who he had no idea who Tamara Leach's lawyers were.

00:10:40.060 He knew nothing about the event,

00:10:42.400 all of which was relevant

00:10:43.560 because her bail conditions clearly said

00:10:46.520 that if she was with her lawyer,

00:10:47.700 she could talk to other truckers.

00:10:50.920 So you have a non-lawyer justice of the peace

00:10:53.520 who takes days and days to make a decision

00:10:56.100 that should take an hour.

00:10:57.620 You have a radical liberal.

00:10:59.200 I say radical.

00:10:59.700 I've never heard of anyone donating $17,000

00:11:02.080 to the Liberal Party of you.

00:11:03.400 Never.

00:11:04.640 You have a cop with a complex matter

00:11:07.560 who doesn't bother looking at the facts

00:11:09.400 and orders a national warrant without legal advice.

00:11:13.440 And bizarrely and grotesquely,

00:11:15.340 the medicine hat police comply like they're under orders.

00:11:18.840 Not a real judge, liberal prosecutor,

00:11:21.620 lone cop, the thinnest of pretexts.

00:11:25.200 And as I talked to you this Thursday night,

00:11:28.220 Tamara Leach is in prison.

00:11:29.440 In Canada, terrorists get bail.

00:11:33.860 Accused terrorists get bail.

00:11:36.720 You know, it's funny, as Sheila mentioned the other day,

00:11:38.960 the cops on this case were from the homicide squad.

00:11:43.780 That's who they put on Tamara Leach's case.

00:11:47.320 Let me tell you what I think.

00:11:49.540 I think this justice of the peace,

00:11:51.180 who's clearly obedient to the government,

00:11:53.820 that's all he knows, that's all he's worked for.

00:11:55.900 He's a creature of Ottawa.

00:11:56.920 He's not a lawyer. He doesn't know the law.

00:11:59.920 I think he's going to keep Tamara Leach in prison. 1.00

00:12:01.960 That's my guess.

00:12:03.140 But even if he doesn't, it's outrageous

00:12:04.700 that he kept her three extra days before deciding.

00:12:08.740 And I think a terrible thing is going to happen.

00:12:12.460 You see, I've had a lot of battles in my day,

00:12:14.540 including in court.

00:12:15.340 I've won some and I've lost some.

00:12:19.060 It's better to win.

00:12:20.780 But you can bear a loss in any contest.

00:12:23.880 You can bear a loss in court.

00:12:25.760 You can bear a loss in a sport, in any contest.

00:12:29.460 If you knew the rules in advance and agreed to the rules

00:12:33.700 and the rules were fair,

00:12:34.980 and so when you lose, you say,

00:12:37.380 well, the other side had some luck

00:12:39.760 or they were better or whatever it is,

00:12:41.440 it was a fair deal.

00:12:42.880 I accept the loss

00:12:44.240 and I can bear it because I know it was fair.

00:12:48.340 And if there was a shortfall, it was my own.

00:12:50.080 But what if you no longer feel that way?

00:12:56.280 What if people, Tamara Leach, her supporters

00:12:59.680 and millions of people across Canada say,

00:13:02.160 well, hang on.

00:13:03.840 We know she wasn't charged with anything violent.

00:13:06.020 In fact, it was the laughable charge of inciting mischief.

00:13:09.520 We know she's a sweet grandma who's done nothing wrong.

00:13:12.900 We know it's outrageous that she was helped

00:13:14.980 for 13 days bail in the first place.

00:13:17.200 Outrageous that they sent the homicide cops to get her.

00:13:19.320 Outrageous nine more days

00:13:20.920 before she had a justice of the peace.

00:13:22.620 Outrageous it took three days.

00:13:25.400 And what if, in fact, she's put back in prison?

00:13:29.960 That's extremely tough to bear.

00:13:34.140 It doesn't sound fair.

00:13:36.600 But then if you know that the judge who made the decision

00:13:39.040 wasn't a judge or a lawyer,

00:13:40.200 but a justice of the peace

00:13:41.120 whose sole credential was working for the government.

00:13:43.680 And what if you know that the prosecutor

00:13:45.100 was as partisan as they come

00:13:46.940 and the cop was acting in a manner

00:13:50.860 unguided by the law,

00:13:52.320 what if you then decided,

00:13:54.640 which could be quite reasonable,

00:13:57.360 that the justice system is no longer fair

00:14:00.720 and the rules by which your hero lost

00:14:04.820 were not fair.

00:14:06.660 They were not the rules that others play by.

00:14:10.120 That the game was rigged,

00:14:11.360 that the ref was rigged,

00:14:12.300 that the umpire was rigged,

00:14:13.440 that it was not a level playing field.

00:14:14.840 You can bear losing a game if it's fair.

00:14:17.640 You can bear losing a trial if it's fair,

00:14:19.460 but not if it is unfair.

00:14:21.420 Then you lose trust in the game itself.

00:14:23.660 You lose trust in the institution,

00:14:26.760 in the institution of the police,

00:14:29.500 in the prosecution, in the courts,

00:14:31.280 and in parliament itself.

00:14:32.720 This is dangerous.

00:14:35.100 This is what will radicalize people.

00:14:38.540 Tamara Leach didn't radicalize anybody. 1.00

00:14:40.780 She encouraged them to peacefully demonstrate

00:14:43.940 in their national capital,

00:14:45.680 waving the flag and singing O Canada.

00:14:48.160 There was the odd bouncy castle

00:14:50.000 and hot tub party too.

00:14:51.480 That's Tamara Leach. 0.99

00:14:52.580 She didn't radicalize anyone.

00:14:54.840 In fact, she brought people back 0.50

00:14:56.280 in to the political process.

00:14:58.740 I remember when I spoke to the truckers,

00:15:01.340 they said, what's the point?

00:15:03.100 Why are we here?

00:15:04.320 What will happen?

00:15:05.320 Well, you are the point.

00:15:06.340 Your peaceful demonstration was the point.

00:15:08.080 To show the country that there was not unanimity

00:15:11.700 on the lockdowns and the vaccines.

00:15:14.920 Don't make that a lie.

00:15:16.120 Don't turn that into a lie.

00:15:17.360 Tamara Leach and the truckers normalized 0.95

00:15:19.280 and brought protesters back into the process.

00:15:23.220 It is this out-of-control prosecutor,

00:15:26.580 the out-of-control police,

00:15:28.180 and an untutored justice of the peace

00:15:30.600 who are jeopardizing our social cohesion.

00:15:34.740 Because if Tamara Leach is put back in prison tomorrow, 1.00

00:15:38.080 and it's an outrage that she had to wait three days

00:15:40.100 to find out in any event,

00:15:42.540 I promise you that will make many, many more people

00:15:46.760 no longer trust a system

00:15:49.020 that they can credibly say was rigged against them.

00:15:54.080 And all the people who would normally squawk

00:15:56.680 if poor Omar Khadr was mistreated in prison,

00:16:01.240 they were silent.

00:16:02.260 The media was silent.

00:16:03.260 The opposition was silent.

00:16:05.140 Where's Pierre Polyev on the subject?

00:16:07.140 Where's Candace Bergen on the subject? 0.99

00:16:09.540 Where is that opposition party

00:16:11.640 that briefly hung out with the truckers?

00:16:14.320 Where are they?

00:16:16.000 If Tamara Leach is sent back to prison tomorrow, 1.00

00:16:18.640 that one act will do more to radicalize Canadians

00:16:21.400 than anything else in the last two years.

00:16:25.060 Stay with us for more.

00:16:26.120 Lewis, why don't you tell us

00:16:39.380 what exactly is going on here?

00:16:41.680 So, we're in the city of Drekty,

00:16:44.560 and the farmers, the Dutch farmers,

00:16:47.680 have decided to park up

00:16:49.220 right next to a roundabout

00:16:51.540 right in the city centre.

00:16:52.760 And if we just pan round next to us,

00:16:55.980 so many are out in support

00:16:57.980 to show solidarity with the farmers here.

00:17:02.060 So, we're now going to be out

00:17:03.380 talking to people,

00:17:04.820 seeing what they think,

00:17:06.380 asking the farmers why they're here,

00:17:08.180 what is the purpose of this.

00:17:10.980 We were hearing that they were

00:17:12.820 potentially going to the,

00:17:15.180 near to the German border.

00:17:16.620 Yes.

00:17:16.940 What's the word on that?

00:17:18.140 So, according to reports,

00:17:21.500 the farmers will be heading to the A7,

00:17:24.720 which is a highway connecting to the German border.

00:17:28.960 So, reports are showing that potentially

00:17:31.500 German farmers will be 1.00

00:17:33.360 coinciding and collaborating

00:17:35.640 with the Dutch farmers.

00:17:37.220 So, this is all allegedly,

00:17:40.080 we're following,

00:17:40.980 we'll see what happens,

00:17:42.160 and we'll keep you guys updated.

00:17:43.880 Make sure you check out

00:17:44.740 farmerrebellion.com

00:17:47.080 for all of our coverage.

00:17:48.740 Thank you.

00:17:49.380 Thanks, guys.

00:17:50.160 Well, that's an exciting video

00:17:51.660 on location in the Netherlands,

00:17:54.220 where Rebel News has sent

00:17:55.800 two reporters so far,

00:17:57.240 Louis Brackpool

00:17:58.680 from the United Kingdom,

00:18:00.160 and our friend Lincoln Jay

00:18:01.400 from Toronto,

00:18:02.560 will have one or two more

00:18:04.400 other rebels joining

00:18:05.800 on the ground

00:18:06.600 to tell the story

00:18:08.420 in English

00:18:09.380 of what's happening

00:18:10.820 in the Netherlands

00:18:11.520 and could actually spread

00:18:13.100 to other parts of Europe

00:18:14.080 and the world.

00:18:15.180 Well, what exactly is going on

00:18:17.280 with the farmer rebellion?

00:18:20.240 Well, let's talk to someone

00:18:22.100 who actually knows

00:18:23.240 in the native language.

00:18:24.840 I'm talking about

00:18:26.040 Eva Vlardingerbroek.

00:18:27.900 You may recognize her

00:18:29.420 from her appearances

00:18:30.400 on GB News in the UK

00:18:31.780 and on Fox News

00:18:33.480 in the United States.

00:18:34.400 And we're delighted

00:18:35.100 to have her join us

00:18:36.140 via Skype today.

00:18:38.480 Eva, what a pleasure

00:18:39.460 to meet you.

00:18:40.100 Thanks for jamming us

00:18:41.480 in your schedule.

00:18:43.180 Welcome.

00:18:43.900 And can you tell us

00:18:45.080 a little bit

00:18:46.060 of what's behind this?

00:18:47.960 Because we can't get the news

00:18:49.500 from the mainstream media.

00:18:51.080 Who are these farmers?

00:18:52.780 Why are they protesting?

00:18:54.240 And how is it going to end?

00:18:56.700 Hi, Ezra.

00:18:57.660 Thank you for having me.

00:18:58.780 Yeah, the Dutch farmers

00:19:00.240 are out on the streets

00:19:01.300 right now protesting

00:19:02.420 a new law

00:19:03.860 that has recently

00:19:05.300 been passed

00:19:05.920 in the Dutch Parliament

00:19:06.860 that basically forces them

00:19:08.860 to give up

00:19:09.880 at least 30%

00:19:11.200 of their livestock

00:19:12.420 before 2030.

00:19:14.240 So the Dutch government

00:19:15.540 is expropriating

00:19:16.780 these farmers' land

00:19:18.080 under the guise

00:19:18.960 of a new nitrogen law.

00:19:20.800 They're saying that

00:19:21.620 the Netherlands,

00:19:22.660 our tiny, small country

00:19:24.160 that you can see on the map,

00:19:25.580 has a dangerous nitrogen crisis

00:19:28.480 that suddenly needs

00:19:29.860 all of these actions

00:19:30.960 and measures

00:19:31.460 and, well,

00:19:32.480 the farmers are the ones

00:19:33.580 that are going to have

00:19:34.260 to pay for it

00:19:34.940 and the state

00:19:35.560 is taking their land.

00:19:37.260 So, obviously,

00:19:38.680 if someone would come

00:19:39.520 into your house

00:19:40.380 and say,

00:19:40.900 I'm going to take 30%

00:19:42.040 of what you own

00:19:42.860 and you have nothing

00:19:43.920 to say about it,

00:19:45.140 you'd be angry too.

00:19:46.300 And that's exactly

00:19:47.100 what these farmers

00:19:47.960 are doing right now.

00:19:48.900 They're showing

00:19:49.540 that they are not

00:19:51.040 having this.

00:19:52.060 So they're out

00:19:52.700 on the street,

00:19:53.560 they're protesting,

00:19:54.620 they have blocked

00:19:55.300 the freeways,

00:19:56.460 they have blocked

00:19:57.000 distribution centers,

00:19:58.080 and they're basically saying

00:19:59.460 this is what is going

00:20:00.620 to happen

00:20:01.120 if you take our land away,

00:20:02.900 we're going to have

00:20:03.560 food shortages

00:20:04.180 because already right now

00:20:05.540 the Dutch supermarkets,

00:20:07.080 a lot of the shelves

00:20:08.180 are empty.

00:20:09.840 Yeah,

00:20:10.100 and here in North America too,

00:20:11.940 inflation is high,

00:20:14.020 especially for food.

00:20:15.680 The idea of deliberately

00:20:17.200 ending 30%

00:20:19.080 of your livestock capacity

00:20:20.440 seems insane,

00:20:21.500 but I just want to get back

00:20:22.740 to the one word

00:20:23.700 that stuck in my ear.

00:20:25.140 I've heard for years

00:20:26.580 people talk about

00:20:28.040 carbon dioxide

00:20:29.120 and carbon emissions,

00:20:30.520 and I happen to know

00:20:31.820 that carbon is one

00:20:32.700 of the most common elements.

00:20:34.440 You can see it

00:20:35.280 in the word

00:20:35.620 carbohydrate or carburetor.

00:20:37.520 We're made in large part

00:20:39.180 from carbon trees.

00:20:40.860 It's a building block

00:20:41.980 of so much,

00:20:43.000 and you can believe

00:20:44.440 in the theory

00:20:45.000 of man-made global warming

00:20:46.740 or not,

00:20:47.580 but that's carbon dioxide.

00:20:50.400 Nitrogen,

00:20:51.300 that's just another element

00:20:52.600 in the periodic table.

00:20:54.040 I think most of air

00:20:55.860 is nitrogen,

00:20:57.360 like more than three-quarters

00:20:58.460 of what makes up air

00:20:59.680 is nitrogen

00:21:00.760 and there's oxygen.

00:21:01.880 I've just never heard

00:21:03.140 nitrogen,

00:21:04.540 which is all around us,

00:21:06.380 being called

00:21:06.940 an enemy

00:21:07.600 of anything.

00:21:09.960 What are they worried

00:21:11.440 about with nitrogen?

00:21:13.060 It sounds laughable to me.

00:21:15.380 It is laughable,

00:21:16.400 and that is what you should

00:21:17.220 take away from this.

00:21:18.120 It's not a real crisis.

00:21:19.940 Obviously,

00:21:20.660 nitrogen isn't a problem,

00:21:22.240 especially not

00:21:23.160 when you consider

00:21:24.100 the fact that,

00:21:24.820 well,

00:21:25.080 the Netherlands,

00:21:25.660 like I said,

00:21:26.040 is such a small piece of land.

00:21:27.740 We have our neighboring countries,

00:21:29.660 Belgium and Germany,

00:21:31.140 that don't have to implement

00:21:32.480 any of these measures,

00:21:33.680 but the Dutch government

00:21:34.480 is doing it.

00:21:35.520 And the real reason,

00:21:36.520 obviously,

00:21:36.960 behind it

00:21:37.380 is that the Dutch state

00:21:38.380 wants the farmers' land.

00:21:40.500 Because probably,

00:21:41.560 there are a couple of reasons.

00:21:42.560 So the farmers,

00:21:43.520 first of all,

00:21:44.080 they're a group in society

00:21:45.160 that are very self-reliant.

00:21:47.140 They are basically

00:21:47.780 ungovernable in that sense.

00:21:49.340 You know,

00:21:49.480 they own a lot

00:21:50.620 of the Dutch land

00:21:51.620 and they,

00:21:52.640 well,

00:21:53.100 they produce

00:21:53.820 agricultural products.

00:21:55.200 They have livestock.

00:21:56.840 They produce beef.

00:21:58.160 And what's interesting

00:21:59.420 to know

00:22:00.000 is that

00:22:00.780 the Dutch minister

00:22:01.760 who has pushed

00:22:02.640 this nitrogen law

00:22:03.880 has a brother-in-law

00:22:05.680 who is the owner

00:22:06.480 of the Dutch online supermarket

00:22:08.580 called Picnic.

00:22:10.040 Guess who invested

00:22:11.140 $600 million

00:22:12.320 in Picnic last year?

00:22:14.800 Right.

00:22:15.380 Bill Gates,

00:22:16.060 the man who wants you

00:22:16.920 to fake meat.

00:22:18.660 And, you know,

00:22:19.320 that's not just

00:22:20.000 a conspiracy theory.

00:22:21.540 I know, for example,

00:22:22.480 that the head

00:22:23.820 of the Netherlands,

00:22:25.440 am I pronouncing

00:22:26.100 his name right,

00:22:27.020 Rutte? 0.95

00:22:27.700 How do you pronounce

00:22:28.720 the name of the leader

00:22:30.120 of the Netherlands?

00:22:31.540 He's a serious member

00:22:33.740 of the World Economic Forum,

00:22:35.800 too.

00:22:36.080 What's his name?

00:22:37.760 Mark Rutte.

00:22:38.680 Yes, Mark Rutte

00:22:39.420 is very, very deeply involved

00:22:41.380 in the World Economic Forum.

00:22:42.840 And, well,

00:22:43.500 it's obvious that this law

00:22:44.800 is a product, again,

00:22:46.080 of these globalist institutions

00:22:47.720 because this needs to happen

00:22:49.340 before 2030.

00:22:50.980 Rings a bell, right?

00:22:51.940 Agenda 2030,

00:22:53.260 the Great Reset,

00:22:54.720 World Economic Forum.

00:22:55.860 It's very clear

00:22:56.420 that this is a made-up crisis,

00:22:58.160 which we've seen before

00:22:59.860 with these organizations.

00:23:01.220 That's the way

00:23:01.920 they handle,

00:23:02.840 that's the way

00:23:03.200 they operate these things.

00:23:04.760 They say,

00:23:05.460 we have a crisis

00:23:06.280 and you are the ones

00:23:08.240 that are going to have

00:23:09.080 to solve this

00:23:09.660 by giving up

00:23:10.340 all of your rights.

00:23:11.320 So that's what's happening here.

00:23:12.960 They're taking away

00:23:13.780 these farmers' land.

00:23:15.000 They're taking away property

00:23:16.400 because they see a future

00:23:17.580 for us

00:23:18.160 in which we're

00:23:19.120 completely dependent

00:23:20.720 on the state.

00:23:21.960 You eat bugs

00:23:22.800 and, well,

00:23:24.340 they own your land.

00:23:25.740 You, you know,

00:23:26.280 you owe nothing

00:23:27.280 and you'll be happy

00:23:28.200 is what they say to you.

00:23:29.420 But these farmers

00:23:30.020 are not happy

00:23:30.820 and I'm so proud

00:23:31.800 that they're fighting this.

00:23:33.220 Yeah, well, you know,

00:23:33.780 it's really reminiscent

00:23:34.800 of the trucker rebellion

00:23:36.540 we had here in Canada.

00:23:38.520 And one of the reporters

00:23:39.200 we've sent over there,

00:23:40.140 Lincoln Jay,

00:23:40.820 was really 23 days in a row

00:23:44.480 he was reporting

00:23:45.160 from our trucker rebellion.

00:23:46.460 So now he's going to report

00:23:47.880 on the farmer rebellion,

00:23:49.860 which is the name

00:23:50.720 of our website,

00:23:51.540 farmerrebellion.com.

00:23:52.880 So it'll be interesting

00:23:53.940 to see him contrasting

00:23:55.420 how Canadians do. 0.88

00:23:56.480 Canada and the Netherlands

00:23:57.580 are old friends.

00:23:58.940 A lot of Canadian soldiers

00:24:00.260 fought and actually died

00:24:02.300 in the Netherlands

00:24:03.760 to help liberate that country.

00:24:05.380 There's been a deep tie

00:24:06.360 between the two of us

00:24:07.260 ever since.

00:24:07.720 It's one of the reasons

00:24:08.880 why there's so many tulips

00:24:10.220 planted every year

00:24:11.480 in front of our

00:24:12.280 parliament buildings.

00:24:13.680 It's a reminiscence of the,

00:24:14.840 in fact,

00:24:15.480 the Dutch queen,

00:24:16.660 if I'm not mistaken,

00:24:17.380 was born in Ottawa

00:24:19.740 and the hospital room

00:24:20.660 was declared Dutch soil.

00:24:23.540 Am I getting my history

00:24:24.660 right on that?

00:24:26.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:24:27.060 The Netherlands and Canada

00:24:28.060 are very closely linked

00:24:29.380 because of the reasons

00:24:30.500 you mentioned.

00:24:31.140 And we had a lot of reasons

00:24:32.480 to be very thankful

00:24:33.440 to the Canadians

00:24:34.780 for liberating us

00:24:36.160 in large parts

00:24:36.820 of the Nazi regime.

00:24:38.340 But our ties

00:24:39.680 don't just limit themselves

00:24:40.860 to history.

00:24:41.640 They limit themselves

00:24:42.460 in a very nasty way

00:24:43.880 to the present day.

00:24:45.480 And that is that

00:24:46.120 you guys and us,

00:24:47.840 we basically serve

00:24:48.960 as these pilot countries

00:24:50.460 for the rollout

00:24:51.920 of this 2030 agenda

00:24:53.400 for the World Economic Forum.

00:24:55.460 And the way that Trudeau

00:24:56.820 has handled the crisis there

00:24:59.000 and the way that

00:24:59.600 he took away your rights,

00:25:01.680 the rights of the unvaccinated

00:25:02.860 and the way that the protests

00:25:04.000 have been handled

00:25:04.520 by the truckers

00:25:05.160 are something that

00:25:06.140 we are looking at

00:25:07.260 and saying,

00:25:08.580 OK, we basically have

00:25:09.700 the same type of treatment

00:25:10.660 coming from our government.

00:25:12.360 Mark Rutte and Trudeau

00:25:13.620 are closely,

00:25:16.020 we've seen them before

00:25:17.260 closely in social settings

00:25:19.620 being very friendly

00:25:20.500 to each other.

00:25:21.480 And while they're

00:25:22.080 very similar in the way

00:25:23.700 that they view the world

00:25:24.620 and they have

00:25:25.080 the same globalist policies.

00:25:26.960 And the Dutch farmers

00:25:27.740 have really looked

00:25:28.800 also towards

00:25:29.660 the Canadian truckers.

00:25:30.760 And you can see that

00:25:31.600 in the interviews

00:25:32.800 that they're giving right now.

00:25:33.960 They're saying that.

00:25:34.940 They're saying the way

00:25:35.960 that the truckers

00:25:36.600 have stood up against Trudeau

00:25:38.100 is the way that we want

00:25:39.540 to stand up against Mark Rutte.

00:25:40.940 And they're being supported

00:25:42.300 by Dutch truckers as well,

00:25:44.020 Dutch fishermen.

00:25:45.060 So you guys have set

00:25:46.620 a great precedent there

00:25:48.140 that we were very happy

00:25:49.640 to learn from.

00:25:50.320 And I hope that

00:25:51.080 it has the same effect.

00:25:53.220 Well, that's very interesting.

00:25:54.760 I just want to come back

00:25:55.800 to the farmers

00:25:56.780 and the cattle.

00:25:58.380 I presume livestock

00:25:59.220 is largely cattle.

00:26:00.760 Maybe there's other livestock too,

00:26:02.120 sheep, but I think

00:26:04.080 that really means cows.

00:26:06.760 And I'm trying to think of

00:26:07.820 what we've heard

00:26:09.940 in the environmentalist

00:26:11.220 drumbeat for decades

00:26:12.540 is carbon dioxide.

00:26:14.320 So that means

00:26:15.000 everyone has to drive less,

00:26:17.080 everyone has to fly less,

00:26:18.520 and everyone's going to be punished

00:26:20.120 by the carbon taxes.

00:26:21.720 But it seems like

00:26:23.440 this battle in the Netherlands

00:26:25.220 is focused just on

00:26:26.360 one part of society.

00:26:27.580 Like you say,

00:26:28.760 farmers who are self-deficient

00:26:30.460 and this is sufficient,

00:26:31.940 our property owners

00:26:32.920 believe in freedom.

00:26:34.040 I've never seen

00:26:34.980 the punishment

00:26:36.200 being targeted this way

00:26:38.040 and really targeted

00:26:40.260 at animals too.

00:26:41.960 We're going to get rid

00:26:42.740 of 30% of animals.

00:26:44.200 It just seems very odd.

00:26:46.280 I want to ask you,

00:26:47.880 has the rest of Dutch society

00:26:51.040 shown solidarity

00:26:52.680 with the farmers?

00:26:53.940 Or are they saying,

00:26:54.980 well, I don't care.

00:26:56.140 It's those farmers

00:26:57.220 who are the problem,

00:26:58.860 those farmers

00:26:59.460 who are rebelling.

00:27:00.500 I'm in the city.

00:27:01.580 I'm in Amsterdam.

00:27:02.720 I'm a sophisticated city person.

00:27:05.700 I'm not dirty and grubby

00:27:07.260 like the farmers.

00:27:08.560 They deserve it.

00:27:09.560 Like, it seems like

00:27:10.840 an attempt to demonize

00:27:12.160 and ghettoize 0.73

00:27:13.000 and focus the punishment

00:27:14.400 on one group of people

00:27:15.320 and one group of animals,

00:27:16.380 weirdly.

00:27:17.340 Has the rest of Dutch society 0.98

00:27:19.260 chosen sides on this one?

00:27:22.860 What we're seeing now

00:27:24.540 is that a majority

00:27:25.600 of the Dutch people

00:27:26.820 seem to support the farmers,

00:27:28.540 which is great news.

00:27:29.840 But obviously,

00:27:30.480 the mainstream media

00:27:31.420 that is run by the establishment,

00:27:33.240 by liberals

00:27:33.860 who live in their ivory tower

00:27:35.680 and who will, you know,

00:27:37.520 have enough money

00:27:38.420 to eat their meat anyway

00:27:39.620 and are happy to see you eat bugs,

00:27:42.180 those people obviously

00:27:43.140 don't support the farmers.

00:27:44.700 So like with everything nowadays,

00:27:46.520 there's a real split down the middle

00:27:48.560 between the side

00:27:49.820 of the pro-establishment people,

00:27:51.680 usually people who are part of it,

00:27:53.260 and then the people

00:27:54.640 who are just like,

00:27:55.780 hey, wait a minute,

00:27:57.300 since when do we think

00:27:58.480 it's all right

00:27:59.080 that the state intervenes

00:28:00.360 in our private life this much?

00:28:01.900 You know,

00:28:02.120 this is quite literally communism.

00:28:05.040 Yeah.

00:28:05.200 So that's something

00:28:05.900 that the Dutch are, 0.96

00:28:07.480 you know,

00:28:07.980 I feel like a large part

00:28:09.520 of the Dutch country

00:28:10.560 is starting to wake up

00:28:12.160 to this now.

00:28:12.860 They're like,

00:28:13.260 okay,

00:28:13.460 this maybe goes a little far,

00:28:15.120 but the mainstream media

00:28:16.380 is working over time

00:28:18.480 to make these people look bad.

00:28:20.500 And I don't know

00:28:22.000 if you've seen the images,

00:28:23.200 but the Dutch state

00:28:23.980 has done a lot

00:28:25.940 to crack down

00:28:27.100 on these farmers.

00:28:28.280 They have actually,

00:28:29.260 there's been police brutality.

00:28:30.760 Yeah.

00:28:31.080 Just two days ago,

00:28:32.480 they used their guns

00:28:33.840 on peaceful protesters

00:28:35.520 and actually almost shot

00:28:37.820 a 16-year-old child

00:28:39.400 in the head. 0.53

00:28:40.400 Yeah.

00:28:40.800 That's what they're doing now.

00:28:42.420 And those types of things

00:28:43.620 are just stuff

00:28:45.340 that we would never

00:28:46.160 have seen before.

00:28:47.340 You know,

00:28:47.800 Dutch is,

00:28:48.720 the Netherlands

00:28:49.200 is such a peaceful country

00:28:50.680 usually where we're pacifist,

00:28:52.880 you know,

00:28:53.200 nobody has guns.

00:28:54.720 You don't really see

00:28:55.600 police violence

00:28:56.220 all that much.

00:28:56.900 But over the last couple

00:28:57.940 of years

00:28:58.380 with the COVID crisis,

00:28:59.880 the way they've cracked down

00:29:00.920 on those protesters

00:29:02.040 and now the way

00:29:02.700 they're cracking down

00:29:03.400 on the farmers,

00:29:04.340 I think they're starting

00:29:05.180 to show their true colors

00:29:06.340 and the people

00:29:07.120 are noticing it.

00:29:08.300 Wow.

00:29:08.600 You know,

00:29:08.880 and that is another echo

00:29:10.020 of Canada.

00:29:10.880 I mean,

00:29:11.140 the RCMP,

00:29:11.960 the Mounties

00:29:12.720 were always held

00:29:13.760 in such high regard

00:29:14.900 and I think

00:29:16.900 most Canadians

00:29:17.540 respected them

00:29:18.300 and to see

00:29:19.140 the police brutality

00:29:19.980 in Canada

00:29:20.620 during the lockdowns,

00:29:21.640 during the Trucker Rebellion

00:29:23.200 and then to see

00:29:23.740 that echoed

00:29:24.420 in the Netherlands,

00:29:25.640 you're right.

00:29:26.020 When I think of Holland,

00:29:27.260 I think of friendly,

00:29:28.600 peaceful people

00:29:29.260 on bicycles

00:29:30.040 with tulips

00:29:31.140 and I know

00:29:31.780 that's a caricature

00:29:33.260 but I think

00:29:34.060 that is part

00:29:34.560 of the Dutch

00:29:34.960 national character

00:29:36.020 to friendly,

00:29:37.900 peaceful,

00:29:38.480 reasonable

00:29:38.880 and this is

00:29:40.440 very shocking to me.

00:29:41.340 Well,

00:29:41.520 I got to tell you,

00:29:42.360 it's fascinating.

00:29:44.080 We're going to try

00:29:44.680 and give it

00:29:45.180 proper coverage

00:29:45.980 in the English language

00:29:47.160 because there's

00:29:48.680 very little coverage

00:29:49.500 in English

00:29:50.160 and of course

00:29:51.180 most Canadians

00:29:51.720 don't speak Dutch

00:29:52.520 and I fear

00:29:53.620 that what little

00:29:54.620 we hear

00:29:55.240 from the Netherlands

00:29:56.460 will come filtered

00:29:57.540 through our state media,

00:30:00.400 our mainstream media

00:30:02.040 that are just going to echo

00:30:03.040 the anti-farmer sentiment.

00:30:04.760 You know,

00:30:05.020 you make me remember

00:30:05.960 Stalin declared war

00:30:08.280 on farmers

00:30:08.860 in Ukraine

00:30:09.560 about 90 years ago

00:30:11.940 and it was called

00:30:12.800 the Holodomor.

00:30:13.760 It was like

00:30:14.100 a man-made famine.

00:30:15.800 Millions died.

00:30:16.680 The idea

00:30:17.160 of attacking farmers

00:30:18.440 and food

00:30:19.540 and doing it

00:30:20.700 deliberately destroying

00:30:22.020 and reducing

00:30:22.640 food production

00:30:23.460 is so unhuman

00:30:24.940 and dangerous.

00:30:25.980 It's shocking to me.

00:30:27.120 Ava,

00:30:27.240 I don't want to

00:30:27.660 take up more of your time.

00:30:28.460 I know you're so busy.

00:30:29.440 We're grateful

00:30:29.900 to have met you.

00:30:30.900 We hope we can

00:30:31.660 talk to you again.

00:30:32.700 It's just wonderful

00:30:33.400 to hear straight from you

00:30:35.060 what's happening

00:30:35.780 in the Netherlands.

00:30:36.680 We're very grateful to you.

00:30:38.220 Oh,

00:30:38.560 I would love to

00:30:39.200 absolutely talk to you

00:30:40.080 more about it.

00:30:40.680 It's so important

00:30:41.380 that you guys know

00:30:42.320 what's going on

00:30:43.180 because this is not

00:30:43.880 just something

00:30:44.420 that's going to affect us.

00:30:46.360 Like you said,

00:30:47.020 the attack on farmers

00:30:48.400 is a way to get

00:30:49.400 control over people

00:30:50.680 and Canada,

00:30:52.160 well,

00:30:52.520 you guys have seen

00:30:53.560 firsthand

00:30:54.100 what it's like

00:30:55.040 to have a state

00:30:55.880 that wants full control

00:30:56.840 over you.

00:30:57.660 So it's so important

00:30:58.840 that you're covering this

00:30:59.680 and I'm very thankful

00:31:00.540 that you're showing support

00:31:01.940 to our Dutch farmers

00:31:02.860 because they really deserve it.

00:31:04.820 Right on.

00:31:05.140 Well,

00:31:05.280 thank you for those remarks.

00:31:06.720 We'll talk to you again soon

00:31:08.080 and thanks for telling us

00:31:10.780 what's going on

00:31:11.860 in one of our

00:31:12.960 great allied countries.

00:31:14.640 Talk to you later,

00:31:15.180 Ava.

00:31:16.660 There you have it.

00:31:17.460 Ava Vlardengerbrook

00:31:18.660 joining us on Skype.

00:31:20.220 We'll talk to her again.

00:31:20.980 And by the way,

00:31:21.340 if you want to see

00:31:21.880 all of our videos,

00:31:22.820 go to

00:31:23.220 farmerrebellion.com.

00:31:25.140 Stay with us.

00:31:25.640 More ahead.

00:31:26.020 Hey, welcome back.

00:31:38.320 Your letters to me.

00:31:39.140 Al Stewart says,

00:31:40.220 I have a feeling

00:31:41.680 that after Patrick Brown

00:31:42.760 and his campaign team

00:31:43.800 watched this episode,

00:31:45.000 he will announce

00:31:45.960 that he is dropping

00:31:46.740 his lawsuits to focus

00:31:48.020 on getting back to work

00:31:49.600 for Brampton Citizens.

00:31:51.760 Yeah,

00:31:52.080 I don't think so.

00:31:54.740 I don't think

00:31:55.680 he wants to go back

00:31:56.480 to Brampton City Council.

00:31:58.080 They're waiting for him

00:31:58.780 with plans for forensic audits

00:32:00.940 and investigations.

00:32:02.320 And I don't think

00:32:03.900 he wants another loss.

00:32:05.120 He's had a few

00:32:05.840 when he was kicked out

00:32:06.760 of the Ontario PC party.

00:32:08.160 That was deeply embarrassing

00:32:09.300 to him.

00:32:10.220 I think this loss could be,

00:32:12.120 I don't know if his

00:32:12.820 political career

00:32:13.520 would recover,

00:32:14.080 although give the man credit.

00:32:15.280 He is the ever ready

00:32:17.280 or energizer bunny

00:32:18.500 bouncing back.

00:32:20.840 Alan Oliver says,

00:32:22.100 he called Rebel News

00:32:23.400 Islamophobic.

00:32:24.700 He has no defense. 0.96

00:32:25.680 So he just throws mud.

00:32:27.240 Yeah,

00:32:27.440 I mean,

00:32:27.780 it's just such a weird insult.

00:32:29.440 There was nothing Islamic 1.00

00:32:30.500 or religious in any way

00:32:31.920 about our entire presentation.

00:32:34.940 Rebel News is people

00:32:35.680 of all religious backgrounds.

00:32:37.120 I'm Jewish myself.

00:32:38.500 We have Muslim staff,

00:32:41.220 Christian staff,

00:32:42.720 Sikh people.

00:32:44.040 I mean,

00:32:44.340 I don't make a list.

00:32:46.620 It's not an important factor

00:32:48.160 for how we operate.

00:32:49.840 It's just really weird

00:32:51.040 that he reached for that

00:32:52.120 given that there was

00:32:53.200 no racial or religious element

00:32:55.060 to the story whatsoever.

00:32:56.120 I think it was sort of lame.

00:32:57.100 I think people saw through it.

00:32:59.580 Church says,

00:33:01.160 David catching that P.O.S. Brown

00:33:03.660 in the arena

00:33:04.360 will go down.

00:33:05.160 It's one of the best pieces

00:33:05.860 of journalism

00:33:06.340 of all time.

00:33:07.220 I agree.

00:33:08.100 And it was so great

00:33:08.900 that David was wearing

00:33:09.800 a jersey himself.

00:33:11.760 and just the look

00:33:13.900 on Patrick Rounds' face,

00:33:15.680 just the freeze,

00:33:16.660 the realization,

00:33:18.560 who is this?

00:33:20.360 It's David Menzies.

00:33:22.340 Am I on camera?

00:33:24.540 Yes, I'm on camera.

00:33:26.020 I'm stunned.

00:33:27.700 What's my excuse?

00:33:29.660 What am I going to say?

00:33:31.660 Oh, yeah.

00:33:32.700 I'm inspecting the arena

00:33:34.920 because what mayor

00:33:36.220 doesn't inspect?

00:33:37.360 I'm here to inspect the arena.

00:33:39.620 That's what mayors do. 0.99

00:33:41.900 Oh, my God.

00:33:42.700 With my hockey bag

00:33:44.180 and my friends

00:33:45.300 who are all warming up

00:33:46.260 for a game.

00:33:47.580 Oh, my.

00:33:48.620 You know what?

00:33:49.380 It was a perfect video.

00:33:50.920 It was a perfect story.

00:33:51.960 But part of me thinks,

00:33:53.160 I wonder what would have happened

00:33:54.240 if David, our reporter,

00:33:55.900 would have arrived,

00:33:56.860 let's say, 20 minutes later

00:33:58.280 when Patrick Brown

00:33:59.500 would have put on

00:34:00.260 his hockey gear

00:34:01.120 and got on the rink.

00:34:02.680 Would he then have said,

00:34:03.540 well, I'm inspecting the ice?

00:34:05.860 I don't know.

00:34:06.660 I think he's too shifty

00:34:08.140 to hold any public office

00:34:09.940 or fiduciary trust.

00:34:11.000 I'm glad that he is not

00:34:12.580 going to be the prime minister.

00:34:13.440 I say again,

00:34:13.900 I would have rather him

00:34:14.620 be dispatched by voters,

00:34:16.500 but I'm glad in any ways

00:34:17.780 that he stopped.

00:34:19.700 That's the show for today.

00:34:21.400 Until tomorrow,

00:34:22.220 on behalf of all of us

00:34:23.240 here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:34:24.420 to you at home,

00:34:24.940 good night.

00:34:26.200 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:34:27.160 David Menzies for Rebel News

00:34:28.820 here at Parliament Hill

00:34:30.440 in Ottawa.

00:34:31.320 And folks,

00:34:32.380 you know the narrative

00:34:33.100 when the Freedom Convoy

00:34:34.600 rolled into the city of Ottawa

00:34:36.280 way back in late January.

00:34:38.060 Well,

00:34:38.300 the vilification

00:34:39.020 and the demonization

00:34:40.480 by the media,

00:34:42.480 by the government,

00:34:43.660 by various law enforcement

00:34:45.200 even began.

00:34:47.200 Evidently,

00:34:48.160 the people of Ottawa

00:34:49.480 were being held siege

00:34:51.140 in their own city.

00:34:52.140 They couldn't get around.

00:34:53.440 It was a dangerous place.

00:34:55.120 That's not true, really.

00:34:56.100 Crime went down

00:34:57.020 during the three weeks

00:34:58.020 of the trucker convoy.

00:34:59.480 Well,

00:34:59.680 I am with Erin Mathers.

00:35:01.580 She is a resident

00:35:03.340 of the city of Ottawa.

00:35:04.920 And she has a bit

00:35:06.300 of a different story

00:35:07.440 to tell you.

00:35:08.600 Maybe not the kind of story

00:35:10.480 you're getting

00:35:11.020 from the mainstream media.

00:35:13.540 So, Erin,

00:35:14.380 we go back to late January.

00:35:16.340 You see all these

00:35:17.440 incredible trucks,

00:35:18.880 these 18-wheelers arrive.

00:35:20.240 And what was your

00:35:22.480 first reaction?

00:35:24.200 And then when you did

00:35:25.000 a little research,

00:35:25.900 what did you discover?

00:35:27.540 Well,

00:35:28.000 first,

00:35:28.580 it was confusion.

00:35:31.820 I mean,

00:35:32.440 we knew they were coming,

00:35:34.220 right?

00:35:34.540 It was in the news

00:35:35.500 for a while

00:35:36.160 that they were on the way.

00:35:37.260 I think it took almost

00:35:38.040 a week for them

00:35:38.600 to get here.

00:35:39.940 And at first,

00:35:40.620 it was really disruptive

00:35:41.460 and I was upset

00:35:42.500 because I was,

00:35:43.880 it's inconvenience

00:35:44.800 is one thing,

00:35:45.640 but it was,

00:35:46.260 it's more than that.

00:35:47.020 It was really disruptive,

00:35:48.560 right?

00:35:49.480 It's quite loud.

00:35:50.680 There's people

00:35:51.200 working from home.

00:35:51.960 There's new babies.

00:35:52.940 There's elderly people.

00:35:56.320 So,

00:35:57.120 you know.

00:35:57.760 So your issue

00:35:58.080 was with the noise

00:35:58.900 because there was

00:35:59.440 a lot of horn honking

00:36:00.520 during the,

00:36:01.100 yeah.

00:36:01.220 And also,

00:36:02.240 it's a really frenetic energy.

00:36:04.040 You don't really know

00:36:04.720 what's going on.

00:36:05.700 You know,

00:36:06.280 all I knew was that

00:36:07.360 it was

00:36:08.300 the truckers union

00:36:10.300 and that they were

00:36:11.660 protesting the mandates

00:36:12.760 for the rest of the

00:36:14.480 employees that hadn't

00:36:15.580 been vaccinated,

00:36:16.640 right?

00:36:16.980 I'm not sure

00:36:17.880 if it was any kind

00:36:18.620 of union

00:36:19.040 or association

00:36:19.860 rather than

00:36:20.740 individual truckers

00:36:21.920 from across Canada.

00:36:22.740 Right.

00:36:23.100 So at first,

00:36:23.780 I thought it was

00:36:24.340 the union,

00:36:25.220 right?

00:36:26.400 But then,

00:36:27.560 so I was actually

00:36:28.540 pretty upset with it,

00:36:29.640 right?

00:36:30.360 And we're going,

00:36:30.860 oh,

00:36:30.960 why do you have this?

00:36:31.900 So why do people

00:36:32.520 have to do this?

00:36:33.460 But I think that reaction

00:36:35.020 mostly was,

00:36:36.100 firstly,

00:36:36.380 it was natural

00:36:36.940 to do that,

00:36:37.860 right?

00:36:38.240 We're getting,

00:36:39.240 again,

00:36:39.900 we're getting disrupted,

00:36:40.620 but nerves are already

00:36:42.740 pretty raw from being

00:36:45.400 locked down for two

00:36:46.400 bloody years.

00:36:47.160 Yes.

00:36:47.600 Right?

00:36:47.860 So that,

00:36:48.380 I had to consider that

00:36:49.440 for a while.

00:36:50.200 But at first,

00:36:50.720 I was not for it.

00:36:51.460 I was like,

00:36:51.640 oh,

00:36:51.780 these guys,

00:36:52.700 why do they come here

00:36:53.600 and what do they do?

00:36:54.540 But,

00:36:55.140 and then I've had to

00:36:57.140 look into my curiosity

00:36:58.200 and go,

00:36:59.100 well,

00:36:59.340 wait a minute,

00:36:59.920 like what's actually

00:37:00.620 going on here?

00:37:01.680 Once you start hearing

00:37:02.720 the mainstream media go,

00:37:05.120 well,

00:37:05.640 you know what Trudeau said,

00:37:06.880 you know,

00:37:07.180 it's the vilification

00:37:08.060 with the other,

00:37:09.680 oh,

00:37:09.920 these people,

00:37:10.880 you know,

00:37:11.140 and now you're alienating

00:37:12.040 half the population

00:37:12.940 of the country.

00:37:14.120 So this is what started

00:37:15.400 to shift it for me.

00:37:16.860 The small fringe minority

00:37:20.280 of people who are on

00:37:23.200 their way to Ottawa

00:37:24.000 or who are holding

00:37:26.060 unacceptable views

00:37:28.280 that they're expressing

00:37:29.700 do not represent

00:37:32.880 the views of Canadians

00:37:34.920 who have been there

00:37:36.300 for each other.

00:37:38.060 If the narrative

00:37:38.800 from top down

00:37:39.920 is going,

00:37:40.740 oh,

00:37:40.900 well,

00:37:41.060 these people

00:37:42.080 are the bad people,

00:37:43.260 then this is a problem.

00:37:45.020 So clearly,

00:37:46.400 what was being reported

00:37:48.040 was not reality.

00:37:49.080 Why was this falsehood

00:37:51.080 being reported

00:37:52.140 in the first place,

00:37:53.040 Erin?

00:37:54.420 Well,

00:37:54.940 that's a pretty big question

00:37:56.480 and I'm not,

00:37:57.920 I mean,

00:37:58.340 I'm not qualified

00:37:59.040 to answer such a thing.

00:38:00.700 The closest thing,

00:38:02.280 that was an unexpected question,

00:38:03.620 the closest thing

00:38:04.300 that I could surmise

00:38:05.320 in my own viewpoint

00:38:06.420 would be they're just

00:38:08.740 going by the leadership.

00:38:11.000 Like,

00:38:11.160 most people are not leaders.

00:38:12.600 Most people need leadership.

00:38:14.260 So that's why it's so important

00:38:15.200 that we have good leadership

00:38:16.400 who isn't going

00:38:17.100 to dehumanise people

00:38:18.260 so easily.

00:38:19.220 We already do that.

00:38:20.320 It's bad habits

00:38:21.280 to say,

00:38:22.060 well,

00:38:22.140 these people are good,

00:38:22.920 these people are bad,

00:38:23.780 or they're just this,

00:38:24.820 or they're just,

00:38:26.160 you throw a label on it,

00:38:27.840 right?

00:38:28.100 I know you're wondering

00:38:30.260 about what you saw

00:38:31.560 in our capital city

00:38:32.580 this weekend.

00:38:35.180 As my friend Erwin Kotler

00:38:36.940 said on Saturday,

00:38:39.160 freedom of expression,

00:38:40.820 assembly,

00:38:41.540 and association

00:38:42.280 are cornerstones

00:38:43.760 of democracy,

00:38:45.540 but Nazi symbolism,

00:38:47.780 racist imagery,

00:38:49.140 and desecration

00:38:50.040 of war memorials

00:38:51.560 are not.

00:38:53.180 It is an insult

00:38:54.160 to memory

00:38:55.360 and truth.

00:38:56.560 You mentioned off-camera

00:38:58.380 when you did research,

00:38:59.900 you found the opposite

00:39:00.760 was true.

00:39:01.220 They were victims.

00:39:02.140 These were people

00:39:03.120 that were losing their jobs,

00:39:04.500 their livelihoods,

00:39:05.680 their homes

00:39:06.860 because of all these

00:39:07.760 COVID mandates.

00:39:09.380 And maybe,

00:39:10.440 you know,

00:39:11.140 when people have their backs

00:39:12.340 against the wall,

00:39:13.200 they do extreme things

00:39:14.860 like having a convoy

00:39:16.260 here on Wellington Street.

00:39:17.860 Right.

00:39:18.540 So,

00:39:19.060 you know,

00:39:19.920 the nonviolent resistant thing

00:39:21.560 is something that we saw,

00:39:22.720 for example,

00:39:23.120 in the Chinese occupation

00:39:24.140 of Tibet.

00:39:24.740 It took quite some years

00:39:26.120 for them to start

00:39:27.020 resisting violently,

00:39:28.460 like 10 dozens of years

00:39:30.240 before they started.

00:39:31.580 So our tolerance,

00:39:32.780 our pain thresholds

00:39:33.860 are a little bit lower

00:39:34.740 in these parts of the world

00:39:36.120 and in these times

00:39:37.100 without that kind of training

00:39:38.460 or cultural context.

00:39:41.160 Right?

00:39:41.700 We saw here

00:39:42.740 during the Dominion Day weekend

00:39:44.840 a complete clampdown

00:39:46.820 of anyone that had a table

00:39:49.780 or a speaker.

00:39:51.660 Officers and bylaw

00:39:53.160 were on them.

00:39:53.960 And it doesn't feel

00:39:56.320 all that free or festive

00:39:57.940 when we should be celebrating

00:39:59.580 the birthday of this nation.

00:40:01.340 Is this what we're seeing

00:40:02.640 an overreaction

00:40:03.700 based on an unrealistic fear

00:40:06.380 that another convoy

00:40:07.560 will happen again here?

00:40:08.840 I think so.

00:40:09.740 I think it's definitely excessive,

00:40:11.860 particularly with the checkpoints.

00:40:13.140 And it's post-festival day today.

00:40:15.100 It's the second.

00:40:15.700 Yeah.

00:40:16.540 So,

00:40:17.040 I mean,

00:40:17.720 someone like myself

00:40:18.640 who doesn't fall into a camp

00:40:20.400 and, you know,

00:40:21.020 I'm not identified with my opinions.

00:40:22.740 I'm willing to shift them

00:40:23.920 and research

00:40:24.900 and have nuanced

00:40:25.920 because more than one truth

00:40:27.080 can be available to you

00:40:29.420 at the same time.

00:40:30.280 There's simultaneous things

00:40:31.400 and paradoxes, you know.

00:40:33.160 It's not just this or that.

00:40:35.140 So,

00:40:36.080 me wanting to go in

00:40:37.360 and just hang out

00:40:38.100 with families

00:40:39.100 and see the music

00:40:40.520 and sit on the grass

00:40:41.560 and chill

00:40:41.900 and talk to people,

00:40:42.980 I'm hesitant to go in,

00:40:44.760 you know.

00:40:45.260 It's,

00:40:45.720 I don't have anything to hide,

00:40:47.160 but I don't want to be complicit

00:40:48.400 in this airport security style stuff.

00:40:50.520 Like,

00:40:50.920 I've lived in the Middle East before.

00:40:52.480 This is not something

00:40:53.360 I've seen in Canada.

00:40:54.980 Like,

00:40:55.400 this is excessive,

00:40:56.660 you know.

00:40:57.020 This is,

00:40:57.600 this is not good,

00:40:59.500 you know.

00:40:59.780 But what,

00:41:00.200 what can we actually do

00:41:01.220 in the street here?

00:41:02.700 It's hard to have

00:41:03.440 reasonable conversations,

00:41:04.820 you know.

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