Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Why the Liberals’ under-16 social media ban is a trojan horse for more government control online

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Tomorrow, our Prime Minister, Mark Carney, intends to bring a new

00:00:03.920 censorship bill in the form of forcing everyone to give ID when they log into their phones for

00:00:10.660 an app. They say it's to protect kids, but then why are they forcing every adult to do it too?

00:00:16.920 I'll take you through their proposal as leaked to the regime media. We'll also have a good chat

00:00:22.040 with Karima Saad, who was there at the big Walk with Israel march on Sunday in Toronto.

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00:00:57.100 Tonight, the liberals are set to bring in their new internet censorship bill tomorrow,

00:01:05.680 requiring everyone to identify themselves when they go online.

00:01:09.180 It's June 9th, and this is The Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:11.700 We fight for freedom! 0.56

00:01:14.740 Shame on you, you censorious bug! 0.94

00:01:17.960 what's so gross about the liberals is how they frame every censorship effort as a strategy to 0.96

00:01:32.740 protect children i remember when justin trudeau brought in his censorship bill he had a couple

00:01:38.260 of parts that were inoffensive that anyone could get behind such as protecting children from porn

00:01:44.680 and a part of it designed to punish revenge porn, if you know what I mean.

00:01:50.280 But of course, both of those are already in the criminal code.

00:01:54.280 They were just added to this censorship bill as a distraction

00:01:58.380 to draw attention away from the main purpose

00:02:01.380 that was to censor what the government calls hate speech.

00:02:05.540 So that anyone who was concerned about the censorship of political opinions,

00:02:10.720 which of course was the purpose of the bill,

00:02:12.460 they can be called callous towards children or worse you don't support child pornography do you

00:02:18.100 then why are you opposed to this censorship bill the liberals sometimes do the same thing with

00:02:23.460 terrorism too they'll throw in some anti-terrorism aspect into a censorship bill again always one

00:02:30.680 that we already have on the books and then they claim free speech critics are soft on terrorism

00:02:36.240 the irony in that eh of course the opposite is true trudeau and now his successor mark carney

00:02:42.240 certainly don't care about terrorism, haven't done anything discernible to protect children.

00:02:47.080 They just use those two items to excuse their plans to censor you and me. Remember,

00:02:53.040 these are the people who brought in the Emergencies Act, not for any emergency,

00:02:57.220 but because the peaceful truckers were embarrassing them and honking their horns.

00:03:02.740 So here they come again. Liberals have leaked to their regime media the news that tomorrow they

00:03:08.300 will introduce a new kind of censorship bill. And again, they're saying it's for the kids.

00:03:13.320 Here's the story in the Globe and Mail. Ottawa planning social media ban for users under 16.

00:03:20.920 Ottawa is preparing to propose a ban on social media for children under 16 as a part of a

00:03:26.220 comprehensive digital safety bill to be introduced Wednesday, according to a source familiar with the

00:03:31.740 proposal, a new digital regulator, oh, okay, to be created by the bill would establish safety

00:03:39.120 standards, the source said. Platforms that meet these standards may be permitted to allow teenagers

00:03:43.900 back as users. So there's a pretendness that this will be temporary, and those tech companies might

00:03:50.940 be allowed to do it in the future. It's temporary, like the income tax is temporary until we win this

00:03:56.800 Great War. I'll read more from the Globe. Many parents and advocates have called for such a ban,

00:04:02.620 citing various concerns about social media, from exposure to harmful content to the addictive

00:04:08.120 effects of continuous scrolling. Now, of course, I'm a parent and I am frustrated by those very

00:04:14.200 things and my kids' overuse of social media. And they are frustrated, in turn, by my overuse of

00:04:19.760 social media. Even more, I think I'm worse than them. But there's something about personal

00:04:24.820 responsibility, isn't there? I mean, I should be able to govern myself as a grown-up, and if I

00:04:31.040 were really concerned about my kids, I'd do something about it, ranging from using existing

00:04:35.980 parental controls, which allow you to block particular apps on your kids' phones, or even

00:04:40.760 limit the amount of minutes your kids can use the phone each day, or just take away the phone.

00:04:45.380 But by saying it's the phone's fault, it's like me blaming the fork manufacturer for making me

00:04:52.560 fat. Oh, that fork. Back to the story in the globe. Critics of the concept warn it could be

00:04:59.940 ineffective and easily circumvented and may introduce additional privacy issues. You don't

00:05:05.760 say. You mean some kids might fib about their age when they log on and forcing everyone to

00:05:12.060 identify themselves may introduce privacy issues? Just maybe. The obvious thing about blocking kids

00:05:18.780 under 16 is that you need to find out who is under 16 and who is over 16. So everyone will 0.91

00:05:26.880 have to enter their private information to prove they're not under 16. It's like a reverse ID check

00:05:32.860 at a bar. You have to be older than 16 to get in. You have to show your ID and that's to the

00:05:39.760 government. But you need to show your ID just to log on. Now, of course, we don't have much privacy

00:05:47.280 left as it is i acknowledge that but this is obviously something that is private or sort of

00:05:51.560 private obviously the government doesn't have it if they want it mark harney wants to know wants to

00:05:57.100 make everyone sign into the internet it's not actually about kids is it parents can limit what

00:06:03.140 their kids watch with the push of a button this is really about everyone else again using kids as the

00:06:09.600 excuse what do you hate kids or something only a kid hater would oppose this law let me read some

00:06:16.900 the long-awaited bill, which follows previous failed attempts by the liberals to introduce

00:06:21.800 online harms legislation, is also expected to require companies to mitigate harmful content

00:06:27.020 online. This would include creating mechanisms to address harms caused by artificial intelligence

00:06:32.940 chatbots. Now, I'm open to checks and balances on artificial intelligence. I don't think I've

00:06:40.440 fully made up my mind on that yet, but that's not really what we're talking about here, is it?

00:06:44.820 we're talking about using ai and chatbots and everything else as a reason to panic and to

00:06:52.380 declare an emergency so they need to regulate every smartphone in the country every internet

00:06:58.040 account every google search every tweet so they're using people's unease with ai which i share

00:07:04.080 as an excuse to make you lose to give up your privacy on the phone oh it's for the kids don't

00:07:11.840 you see i'm not saying things can't or shouldn't improve but don't pretend this is about protecting

00:07:18.020 children parents protect children governments use children as a cover for their plots you know just

00:07:24.780 before i read about canada's plans to bring in digital id on smartphones the united kingdom

00:07:30.580 curiously introduced almost the exact same thing i i think the extremely authoritarian extremely

00:07:37.960 unpopular Prime Minister of the UK, Keir Starmer, is really setting a lot of Canadian policy. I'm

00:07:43.760 not exaggerating, I'm not making a joke here. I really think that on everything from censorship

00:07:48.540 and digital ID to environmentalism and mass immigration, I think it's weird. I mean,

00:07:53.540 here's Starmer's speech just yesterday on this exact subject just yesterday.

00:07:59.820 The pace of change cannot be an excuse for harm.

00:08:07.140 And where technology poses a threat to our people, to our children, we will act quickly and firmly.

00:08:17.160 Now, you saw that earlier this year with Grok.

00:08:19.380 They allowed their tools to be used to create disgusting, explicit AI images.

00:08:27.360 So we took them on.

00:08:29.820 And all tech companies should know, if they fall short on their responsibility to keep people safe, we will act with the same decisiveness.

00:08:41.680 And one issue is the ability for children with phones to send and receive nude images.

00:08:50.820 now for too long people have been told that is simply the price of modern tech that nothing

00:08:59.900 can be done that government is powerless that parents just have to accept it but I reject that

00:09:09.380 completely because tech should adapt to the needs of society not the other way around

00:09:16.200 and so if we're serious about unlocking the opportunities that tech can bring then we must

00:09:23.460 also be serious about protecting our children from those who look to abuse it from the online

00:09:31.260 predators who target our children and from the sexual abuse that they enable that is why today

00:09:39.600 I'm calling on tech companies operating in this country to introduce device controls that prevent

00:09:47.400 children from sending and receiving sexually explicit images because this is not an impossible

00:09:54.440 challenge. These are the sum of the most innovative companies in the world and I believe they can

00:10:01.080 solve it. But if they choose not to, then we will act and we will change the law. Because when it

00:10:12.200 comes to the safety of our children, standing by is not an option. I'm sorry I made you watch so

00:10:19.200 much of that. Did you know he is the most unpopular prime minister in the history of British polling?

00:10:24.940 I mean, I'm sure there was someone in medieval times who was more hated, but not in recent times.

00:10:30.020 Anyways, expect Mark Carney, a British citizen, to pretty much read the same speech.

00:10:35.640 That'll be interesting to compare, won't it?

00:10:37.560 But what a joke, especially in the UK.

00:10:39.800 Keir Starmer doesn't actually care about protecting young people, particularly young people and sexual interference.

00:10:46.660 He has refused to call a meaningful inquiry into the UK's rape gangs, and he vigorously opposed it when he was the chief prosecutor.

00:10:54.680 He doesn't actually care about solving problems of child exploitation.

00:10:59.540 What a laugh to pretend he cares about kids.

00:11:01.660 Oh, by the way, here's the U.S. response to Keir Starmer.

00:11:05.340 This is from The Guardian.

00:11:07.600 White House urges UK not to ban social media for under-16s.

00:11:11.380 Trump administration says restrictions could impose disproportionate burden on U.S. tech companies.

00:11:16.860 I mean, it's true that these regulations are hitting American companies.

00:11:20.000 Can you name a European social media company that people use?

00:11:25.060 Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, X, Snapchat, YouTube, TikTok.

00:11:28.580 They're all American now that Trump forced TikTok to sell.

00:11:31.220 They're all American.

00:11:32.700 So the U.S. regards that as anti-U.S. censorship.

00:11:35.920 And in Canada, they keep adding these massive fines

00:11:38.600 that would basically be a huge tax on U.S. companies.

00:11:43.120 Say, do you think that's going to go down well

00:11:45.780 in our trade negotiations with Trump?

00:11:48.640 New limits and penalties on U.S. tech companies.

00:11:51.720 Added on top of the other planned security breaches in Bill C-22.

00:11:56.240 We haven't talked a lot about that.

00:11:57.460 that's where the canadian government gets a security backdoor into any app they choose yeah

00:12:02.780 no the weird thing about all this is the force that is protecting our civil liberties in canada

00:12:08.220 and in the uk it's not our parliament it's not the british parliament it's not our courts it's

00:12:14.340 not our regime media that's for sure it is the united states and in particular their president

00:12:19.980 donald j trump willing to challenge censors in other countries to protect canadian sorry pardon

00:12:26.820 me, American social media platforms. I hope someone in Canada one day cares enough to stand

00:12:33.200 up to all this censorship when Donald Trump is gone, but I'm not sure if I see it. Stay with us

00:12:39.820 for more. Hey, welcome back. Well, this Sunday marked the March for Israel, actually the Walk

00:12:53.960 with Israel it's called. They say 60,000 people attended. It was on a major artery in Toronto

00:13:00.060 called Bathurst, along which I think at least half of the city's Jews live. It's also been where

00:13:06.680 there's been a spate of anti-Semitic attacks ranging from vandalism to even some synagogues

00:13:14.200 being shot at. So there's been a lot of concern. And every Sunday, as you may know, there's a

00:13:20.780 particular intersection at Bathurst at Shepard, where there are dueling protests. There was a

00:13:27.000 pro-Israel protest on the one side, and I think it's fair to call the other pro-Hamas, because

00:13:31.700 I don't think pro-Palestinian describes it sufficiently. It was actually, in some cases,

00:13:37.720 pro-antisemitic. That was my view, at least. But the policing there was, well, let's just say

00:13:42.780 unusual. David Manzies and myself were both arrested by police for doing our style of street

00:13:49.120 journalism there. So it was interesting to see how the policing would go this Sunday at the big

00:13:55.020 walk. It turns out the police had different marching orders. They kept the pro-Hamas counter

00:14:00.340 protesters significantly back and actually made several arrests. Here's some of our footage of

00:14:06.440 the day. Take a look. I understand that the police intend to keep the pro-Hamas supporters at least

00:14:12.680 100, perhaps 150 feet away from the route of the march. It appears they're affecting that.

00:14:19.700 The police are behind me. I'm just going to get out of the way. If I had to guess how this is

00:14:24.520 going to resolve, they're going to push them back 100 feet. Now, I don't know if you can see it.

00:14:28.660 Do you see that structure over there? That's actually a Holocaust memorial here in Toronto.

00:14:35.500 Wouldn't surprise me if some of these pro-Hamas types do some vandalism while they're here. Like

00:14:40.800 said this is a very jewish neighborhood they are being shooed away the horses in the end were not

00:14:48.960 necessary maybe they were just a dramatic effect the pro-terrorist supporters are indeed retreating

00:14:55.920 well when you talk about street journalism in canada when you talk about following protests

00:15:01.920 and the protest mania that has gripped this city there's only one place you've got to go

00:15:07.520 And that's our friend Karima Saad, who somehow, I don't know how she does that, turns up at all the action, wherever it is, she's there.

00:15:16.880 Her website is protestmania.com.

00:15:18.680 And what a pleasure to have her in studio today, Karima.

00:15:21.580 Great to see you.

00:15:22.660 Thanks for having me.

00:15:23.520 Sometimes I feel like you have, you know, so many roots that you just have tipsters everywhere that something's going on.

00:15:32.520 I'm not going to ask you to divulge your secrets on how you do it, but you always managed to be

00:15:38.600 there at protests, not just over the Israel-Palestine stuff, Antifa protests. Tell us,

00:15:45.520 for viewers who aren't as familiar with you, what is it that makes an event that you want to go to?

00:15:51.620 What's the nature of an event that attracts you? I mean, so a little bit of it is convenience and

00:15:57.920 fluke and all of those things that are out of control, out of one's control. But I am particularly

00:16:04.080 interested in how people are expressing themselves around contentious topics. And so there are

00:16:13.200 specific individuals who are recurring characters who might make an event of interest, specific

00:16:20.380 locations where there's a possibility of confrontation. If I know that there will be

00:16:28.140 competing groups, that's of interest. And so the walk with Israel really ticked all of those boxes 0.99

00:16:34.260 this year. You had some amazing footage and we're going to come back to that, but I want to follow

00:16:38.320 up on something that you mentioned that when I first discovered, it was like the scales fell

00:16:43.880 from my eyes you mentioned recurring characters when i first moved to toronto i went to some

00:16:51.420 at the time it was the um one percenter and the it was about the the banks and it was about you

00:16:58.540 know the occupy that's right and you had occupy toronto which was a little bit different because

00:17:04.280 there actually weren't bank failures in our country unlike the states but i started to see

00:17:09.060 the same faces at an Occupy Toronto event, and then at a protest at an oil company. And I just

00:17:16.320 thought, hey, I didn't get it. But there is a, I'm not sure if it's a livelihood, but there are some

00:17:22.600 folks who are, I think I'm going to call them professional protesters. What do you think?

00:17:26.420 Yeah, definitely. They show up all the time in different places for different causes.

00:17:31.960 You know, what is their motivation? Easy speculation is there is an aspect of livelihood to this. I think for some, it's also about the community that they've built.

00:17:46.320 You know, it's an opportunity to sometimes be antisocial in ways that you can mask by referring to a cause, a righteous cause, something that can be dressed up in that way.

00:18:05.160 And, you know, it spans decades.

00:18:07.680 It's funny because sometimes I look at that footage from the time period you were referring to and some of the faces are still there to this day.

00:18:15.520 There is a surprising American kind of influence.

00:18:21.100 Yeah.

00:18:21.560 People who are were either trained or come from the States and have made their home here.

00:18:29.060 And, you know, I find it fascinating because some of these individuals are consistently behaving poorly and are simply just in a cycle or a rotation of continuing to do the same thing.

00:18:45.520 different places causing disruption. I think if the public understood how few individuals are behind

00:18:53.040 so much of the disruption and high profile protest activity that is not simply benign expression

00:19:02.000 but intended to cause either intimidation or inflict harm or economic issues, right,

00:19:11.120 at target infrastructure. It's a relatively small group of people who are part of this circuit

00:19:17.920 across the political spectrum. That's an amazing observation. I have one more question based on my

00:19:22.400 own experiences, and then we're going to get straight to your footage this weekend. When I

00:19:26.160 was at Sun News, I started covering anti-oil protests, and I discovered that there were some

00:19:32.160 sophisticated, well-educated, and I would even say upper middle class, almost wealthy bosses,

00:19:39.200 And then some of the more foot soldiers, some of them may even be homeless.

00:19:45.440 Some of them may have had mental health issues or drug addictions.

00:19:49.060 As you said, there was a sense of family and community that they would find hanging out.

00:19:53.220 But there was definitely a pecking order.

00:19:55.240 And I remember that the dirty work, the getting arrested, the being right on the front screaming at a cop or whatever, that was done by more a pawn.

00:20:04.460 whereas the higher ranking organizers

00:20:07.800 would never put themselves in jeopardy.

00:20:09.480 That was my observation then.

00:20:11.180 Is that something you see today?

00:20:12.960 I'd say that's largely true,

00:20:14.800 but there are occasions where the more middle management

00:20:19.060 or upper ranking do throw themselves in the fray.

00:20:23.400 And so when there's an opportunity to see that,

00:20:26.680 observe that and document that,

00:20:28.760 it should be news because those individuals

00:20:32.340 are often quoted as experts in their respective fields and as representative voices. But it is

00:20:39.000 an activist industry. And I don't think that that is widely understood by the Canadian public.

00:20:45.680 You are so ubiquitous at these events. And most of your footage is just, sometimes we call it

00:20:51.340 wildlife photography. You just turn the camera on and let things speak for themselves, right?

00:20:55.340 You're not, I mean, you have a different style than say our friend David Menzies or even myself.

00:20:59.760 David has a very engaged, sometimes even, you know, he gets right in people's grill and they don't like it so much.

00:21:06.280 You are more show things.

00:21:08.780 I mean, I think your own point of view can sometimes be mysterious because you let the video do the talking.

00:21:15.040 You're not sort of forcing your own message on it.

00:21:18.340 And yet, I think that you are regarded with some antipathy by these professional protesters.

00:21:25.500 and I find that a bit of a giveaway because I don't think you're hostile I think you just show

00:21:32.860 it as it is and the fact that they find that controversial or unlikable tells me a little

00:21:39.660 bit about them and you what do you have to say about that I'm inclined to agree um show not tell

00:21:46.080 um has been uh kind of a running theme um in my journey and evolution doing this work I think it's

00:21:54.240 more effective. I prefer that people reach their own conclusions. And oftentimes, the same video

00:22:00.000 will elicit completely opposite reactions, depending on someone's background and whatever

00:22:05.620 baggage they bring to the table. And I'm okay with that. I'm okay with whatever the conversation

00:22:10.000 brings. I don't have a particular agenda where I do weigh in on commentary. It's really about the

00:22:16.280 Canadian issues of law enforcement, transparency with politicians, how are people interacting with

00:22:25.960 one another, what's our social fabric like? So it is a giveaway that is regarded with such

00:22:33.600 hostility and hatred. And there's a lot of effort and energy that goes into trying to make us quit

00:22:40.720 what we're doing and i'm so far not interested in that well good for you and i know the independent

00:22:47.000 press gallery uh which of which you're a member and i'm a member and our friend sheila gunnery

00:22:51.480 is the president now has a bit of a security fund for journalists like yourself and others too

00:22:57.580 who get physically targeted sometimes by i'm going to call them anti i don't know if they

00:23:03.560 would call themselves that way um they sometimes their reaction is verbal but sometimes they get

00:23:09.660 bit physical you and your videographer have had some you know luckily nothing too serious but uh

00:23:17.340 the bad guys get a bit handsy i right now i'm wearing a device that i can attach my phone to

00:23:23.660 it so someone can't snatch my phone at a protest right now we're in a friendly space it feels so

00:23:28.860 i'm okay um but yeah there are precautions that i've had to take because people do get

00:23:34.140 physical. It's not just online or verbal harassment. And I am grateful to the IPG for

00:23:42.060 providing that assistance when it's needed. It's a shame that it is needed. And it's a shame that

00:23:48.400 I think sometimes there's a double standard with policing, but we don't need to get into that right

00:23:52.360 here. But I like your work. And I'm not alone. A lot of people follow it. And I like the fact that

00:23:59.040 the Toronto Sun in particular, often uses your footage with credit. They give you a shout out

00:24:04.640 to our friend Joe Warmington quite often because you are doing the street journalism that they

00:24:11.000 used to be famous for. But of course, every mainstream media is a lot smaller now than it

00:24:15.340 was. Without further ado, let's go straight to some of your clips from this weekend. Do you want

00:24:20.580 to introduce the first clip and then we'll just jump right in? Yes. So this was actually fairly

00:24:26.200 early on in the morning. And it is a protest figurehead, one of these individuals who has

00:24:35.720 touched on different causes and different places at different times, but has really thrown himself

00:24:40.820 into this movement. And he, Naveed, was relaying to the crowd his understanding of what police told

00:24:50.940 him about the line for incitement of hatred. And I think it is the words speak for themselves.

00:24:57.960 Let's take a look. Zionism is not a protected class with respect to hate speech. Political

00:25:03.760 ideologies are not a protected class when it comes to hate speech laws. Religions are nationalities.

00:25:09.100 So he said political classes, political groups, free game. But if you blend the two, 0.72

00:25:17.100 then you get into more and more dangerous territory so we don't care whoever comes to

00:25:22.700 this event what the religion is we don't care right we don't care that's our blanket statement 0.98

00:25:28.800 we don't care anybody's religious beliefs but when they come to this event they're a zionist 0.99

00:25:33.380 and you can call zionists roaches rats scum right zionist you can call them all that you can say 0.99

00:25:40.640 they support genocide whatever zionists don't conflate the two don't start talking about people's 0.99

00:25:47.700 religion in a discriminatory manner and don't be talking about people's nationalities so you can

00:25:52.700 say israel murders kids but don't say israelis murders kids because that's a protected group

00:25:59.880 but israel as a whole you can say israel's committing a genocide israel's killing kids

00:26:05.140 whatever israel as a country their government their um army right but don't say israelis

00:26:13.080 that's the gray area they're talking about it's unfortunate that's how it is we don't want to get 0.89

00:26:17.960 arrested so whoever's coming here is a zionist we don't care what the religious is got it thank you 0.95

00:26:24.400 he says you can call them roaches you can call them rats but unfortunately you can't say that 0.99

00:26:32.620 about Jews. Holy smokes. I mean, he couldn't be clearer. And, you know, it I don't know that 1.00

00:26:39.520 that's the hack that Toronto police intended to relay, but that is the impression that these

00:26:45.580 protesters have. Yeah. Wow. Tell us about some more clips. I know you were there for hours. You

00:26:51.500 got some great ones. That was very illuminating what you just showed there. He obviously is a

00:26:56.280 longtime protester. I would call him an organizer, certainly a leader. And he was in that position

00:27:01.260 there. He was teaching the others how to do it. Why not mention one more that you thought was

00:27:05.580 interesting? So what we're about to see are two prominent Toronto Jews who are wrapping tefillin

00:27:14.860 after they completed the walk with Israel. What's noteworthy is that protesters had left

00:27:22.700 their designated area taking a side street that looped back up to Bathurst and police seemed not

00:27:29.520 to know that that was underway.

00:27:33.400 And it kind of took the security, the lone security guard

00:27:37.800 who was there by surprise.

00:27:40.200 And so it's sort of a chaotic moment

00:27:42.900 surrounding this religious ritual

00:27:45.540 that I thought was kind of interesting.

00:27:47.040 Very interesting.

00:27:47.940 Let's take a look at the footage now.

00:27:59.520 Thank you.

00:28:29.520 One Last You When mitigates your party.

00:28:40.840 Hello, hello.

00:28:45.680 You know the Alice Square.

00:28:59.100 Very interesting.

00:29:10.580 So there was a bit of a gap.

00:29:12.320 The police were pretty ubiquitous and they had drones in the sky and they had staging

00:29:17.280 areas, but they obviously didn't keep it hermetically sealed nonstop.

00:29:22.120 Now, they fairly quickly reasserted themselves.

00:29:24.080 You can see the bike cops there.

00:29:26.140 I can see what you mean about your style of just show it.

00:29:29.040 show don't tell that chaos is the right word for that it was a very interesting mix uh of things

00:29:36.480 all in one that that's what it was like yeah and you'll note that the security guard was kind of

00:29:42.220 trying to get um daniel tate and matthew tobe to move it along and that i think was um something

00:29:50.580 that i saw throughout the day um police appealing to participants in the walk to not engage to keep

00:29:58.940 it moving. And while the force did, I think, a decent job in sort of maintaining a separation

00:30:09.200 between the groups, it wasn't constant throughout. And, you know, I'm not obviously privy to all of

00:30:18.840 the back room conversations with police, but that to me was a pretty predictable outcome,

00:30:25.760 especially since protesters were openly discussing their plans yeah yeah interesting um hmm let's play

00:30:33.880 one more clip and i these are just great and you were really in the heart of it i think i recognize

00:30:39.380 one of the senior officers here as staff sergeant mcduff i recognize him because he was the

00:30:47.160 cop who at this same intersection just over a year ago, ordered police to handcuff me

00:30:54.720 and arrest me. So I recognized him. Let's take a look at what McDuff was saying. And by the way,

00:31:00.540 I'm suing him for that false arrest. Let's see what McDuff had to say on the big day on Sunday.

00:31:04.700 Let's take a look.

00:31:17.160 We'll be right back and we'll caution you.

00:31:19.160 Okay.

00:31:20.160 Yeah, okay.

00:31:28.160 I'm going to caution you right now.

00:31:30.160 By wearing the flag on your foot, you're inciting hate.

00:31:34.160 If you don't, because you're stepping on it,

00:31:36.160 it's a multiple situation with people and you're on both sides.

00:31:39.160 They're right over there.

00:31:41.160 If you don't take it off, you can't be arrested for hate crime.

00:31:45.160 And everything we're saying is being recorded as well.

00:31:56.420 Will you remove the flag?

00:31:58.500 No, but there's more water bottle.

00:32:00.040 Give me a second, so I can do one thing at a time right now. 1.00

00:32:02.600 Make her take this off.

00:32:04.760 But it's mine. 0.99

00:32:05.400 Make her take this off.

00:32:06.720 We're giving her caution.

00:32:07.960 We're trying to...

00:32:08.420 Why?

00:32:09.280 Why? 0.88

00:32:09.900 Why can't she have to do this?

00:32:11.640 I thought it was about McDuff. 1.00

00:32:13.000 It was about a woman wearing a flag as a foot cover

00:32:16.640 and that big cop saying, take that off

00:32:19.140 or you can be charged with hate.

00:32:20.320 Again, show not tell, that's a fascinating little vignette.

00:32:23.760 Yeah, and it was Macduff who was on the phone

00:32:27.160 communicating with someone probably stationed remotely

00:32:30.400 or in the command center,

00:32:31.620 letting them know what was happening on the ground,

00:32:34.140 receiving the instructions that, yes, if it's not removed,

00:32:37.720 go ahead with incitement, but offer an opportunity to remedy,

00:32:41.760 which she did and then other protesters kind of jumped in you know why does she have to right

00:32:47.140 but ultimately the the protester complied and was not arrested right very interesting i can imagine

00:32:53.520 how hard it is to communicate you've got a thousand two thousand cops um some experts in

00:32:59.840 different things some higher ranks certain charges need you know approval i imagine my senior officer

00:33:05.900 very interesting well grima thank you for coming in and sharing these videos and it's very

00:33:10.520 interesting to me um your approach because we have you know rebel news is an activist approach

00:33:15.840 i'm not going to call your approach passive but it's calm and it just and i like your show don't

00:33:23.480 tell approach it's very interesting and i'd encourage folks go to protestmania.com we admire

00:33:28.660 karima because she tells the story that others don't tell and she does so sometimes at some

00:33:34.440 personal cost um not just the cost of doing business but i think you have been uh unfairly

00:33:40.720 and frankly illegally targeted by some of the people who don't want your footage to happen so

00:33:46.120 keep it up and uh thanks for stopping by our studio today thanks ezra all right there she

00:33:51.200 is karima sad protestmania.com stay with us your letters to me next

00:34:04.440 Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me about Tim Hortons on Tim Hortons threatening to sue Joe

00:34:10.800 O'Connor says, I call it corporate communism. Tim Hortons is very thin skin. They're a massive

00:34:16.820 company. They're enormous. Although they've lost about 10% of their market capitalization over the

00:34:21.860 last month. I think they're in real trouble. I think that Dunkin Donuts is going to come in and

00:34:26.700 eat their lunch. I was going to say eat their coffee. And they're panicking and they're trying

00:34:32.580 to rebrand themselves as super patriots, but that is the opposite of the truth. And they're lashing

00:34:37.240 out at us because we're one of the few media calling them out. Ken Fay says, USA is closer

00:34:43.320 to our culture than India. I'm looking forward to Dunkin' Donuts. You know, I'm looking forward 0.61

00:34:48.500 to them too, just so Canadians have a choice. I don't know what Dunkin' Donuts policy will be.

00:34:53.460 Maybe they will be into foreign workers too. I hope not. Trevor Mihalik says, I haven't been

00:34:59.880 there since they refused to let unvaccinated kids into their summer camp hey great point i remember

00:35:05.720 that atrocious moment um that would be about five years ago now or maybe a little more just

00:35:11.140 appalling behavior then again a lot of people did the same terrible thing and the whole world went

00:35:16.760 mad during covid but we have a new kind of bullying today they're trying to bully journalists

00:35:22.260 from even talking about them i promise you we will not bend the knee that's our show for today

00:35:27.640 until tomorrow on behalf of all of us here at rebel world headquarters to you at home good

00:35:32.220 night and keep fighting for freedom

Rebel News Podcast - June 09, 2026

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Why the Liberals’ under-16 social media ban is a trojan horse for more government control online

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