Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Will 5 million foreigners really leave Canada in 13 months？

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00:01:23.320 I'm still boggled by that number.

00:01:41.040 There are 4.9 million foreigners in Canada on temporary visas who allegedly have to leave in 13 months.

00:01:50.200 It's November 28th and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

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00:01:58.880 I still almost can't believe it.

00:02:09.900 I do believe it, but I'm surprised by it.

00:02:12.380 I first heard the number of 4.9 million foreigners in Canada who are supposed to leave in the next 13 months.

00:02:21.100 I had never heard that number before and I heard it from no one less than Pierre Pagliav the other day.

00:02:25.600 Remember when he said that, just apropos of Donald Trump talking about the borders?

00:02:29.840 About a week ago, Justin Trudeau admitted that he broke our immigration system and that brings new challenges.

00:02:37.120 His own published documents show there are 4.9 million people here temporarily that are supposed to leave by December 31st of next year.

00:02:50.900 13 months from now, 4.9 million people, we asked what the plan was to track their departures and yesterday his immigration minister said we're just going to take people at their word.

00:03:03.740 He admits that there have been two ISIS terrorists allowed into our country.

00:03:10.760 What is the plan to protect our security and reinstate sovereignty over who is in our country?

00:03:17.780 That's an astonishing number and although it's just terrifying for Canadians to know that more than 10% of our people on the streets have no right to be here 13 months from now and there's no way they're just going to self-deport.

00:03:33.340 I can understand why the United States of America is worried about our border because if we ever were to enforce that, why wouldn't they just walk across into the States? 0.99

00:03:41.900 That's an astonishing number, 4.9 million.

00:03:46.060 Here's the exchange about it from a parliamentary committee the other day.

00:03:49.260 Minister, your department tabled documents with Parliament that show that 4.9 million visas are going to expire between September 2024 and December 2025.

00:04:00.900 How will we know how many of those actually wind up leaving?

00:04:04.500 As you noted, MP Kamich, when people come here, in many of their visa documents, they undertake to leave.

00:04:15.520 As part of the levels plan, there will be some visas that are temporary in nature that will not be reviewed, renewed rather.

00:04:25.240 And those people, when they undertook to come here, will be expected to leave.

00:04:30.240 And that is simply a fact.

00:04:35.400 We'll have to monitor that carefully.

00:04:37.460 There are many measures within our department to monitor these things.

00:04:41.880 But it's one that, given the volume in question, it's something that we'll have to be very careful in supervising.

00:04:48.120 Minister, I wasn't asking about whether they will leave or not.

00:04:50.280 I'm asking you, how will you ensure that a person whose visa has expired will leave?

00:04:54.680 We know that just on study permits, there are 766,000 expiring by the end of December 2025.

00:05:01.760 How will your department ensure that at the end of those study permit periods, those persons will leave?

00:05:09.960 Again, there are many ways that people leave the country, Tom.

00:05:15.200 The vast majority leave voluntarily, and that's what's expected.

00:05:20.620 So explain those ways.

00:05:22.020 How will you ensure it?

00:05:22.800 We work with our partners, including CBSA, to investigate, obviously, and prosecute those who violate immigration law.

00:05:35.680 If someone refuses to leave, they're in violation of the law.

00:05:40.480 And CBSA, after due process, has the legal obligation to remove people.

00:05:44.440 Again, this isn't something that is taken lightly, but in the vast majority of cases, those people that have come here temporarily and do not have the right to stay, in fact, leave.

00:05:56.360 Yeah, I don't believe that there are enough border police to deport 4.9 million people in the next 13 months.

00:06:06.000 I think that would require every police force, and perhaps even occasionally, I don't know, I wouldn't want to have the military conducting police or immigration patrols in the country.

00:06:17.340 But every single police force in the country would have to be dedicated for that fact to happen, to have 4.9 million people leave in the next 13 months.

00:06:27.160 I thought it was less.

00:06:28.300 I remember how astonished I was when I learned that 2 million people a year were coming to Canada, a million students.

00:06:35.500 That's more than the number of Canadian students.

00:06:38.100 Almost a million temporary workers, but twice as many as we have Canadian youth unemployed.

00:06:44.400 Half a million refugees, or whatever they're calling themselves now.

00:06:48.560 And then about half a million regular immigration.

00:06:51.820 I was astonished with those numbers, but it's almost triple that that have built up.

00:06:56.760 And you can feel it in almost every city and town in the country.

00:07:01.680 And frankly, every park, every national park, every street.

00:07:06.680 I mean, try getting a job.

00:07:08.260 I saw an image the other day of a couple of jobs up for grabs in an LCBO and an enormous line at the door.

00:07:14.400 And they all looked like foreign citizens, frankly. 0.97

00:07:16.940 Trying to get a job.

00:07:19.780 Try getting a doctor.

00:07:21.520 Those are 4.9 million people who are getting our free health care.

00:07:25.780 Try getting through traffic.

00:07:28.180 Try getting through a pro-Hamas protest that is manned almost exclusively by these Trudeau guests.

00:07:36.620 You know, that disgusting anti-Semitic display in my own neighborhood where someone dressed up as that Hamas terrorist leader, Yaya Sinwar.

00:07:44.940 According to an online researcher named Leviathan, he's a Syrian refugee led in by Trudeau.

00:07:52.820 Doesn't surprise me.

00:07:54.740 Almost all the protesters are foreigners.

00:07:56.840 I can tell by their foreign accent.

00:07:58.980 And, of course, their foreign ways, which is that they don't believe in pluralism and nonviolence.

00:08:04.180 And they bring their age-old anti-Semitism from their home countries.

00:08:08.060 By the way, there are no Jews in Somalia or Pakistan or Iraq.

00:08:13.480 Like, those are Jew-free zones now. 1.00

00:08:16.160 And so the fact that they're anti-Semitic is sort of baffling.

00:08:19.340 They brought those ancient hatreds over.

00:08:22.140 By the million?

00:08:23.740 Thanks, Trudeau.

00:08:24.560 It's obvious that we're not going to do anything about it in Canada.

00:08:28.300 In fact, it looks like Trudeau is lying even now when he claims to be reducing the numbers.

00:08:34.840 I understand he's actually decided to bring in even more people from Gaza.

00:08:39.640 Just for some food for thought, here's the wall between Egypt and Gaza.

00:08:45.200 I don't know if you know the map.

00:08:46.660 It's like Gaza is basically a rectangle. 0.96

00:08:49.320 And one of the four sides of the rectangle touches the sea, the Mediterranean Sea.

00:08:56.500 Two of the sides in this rectangle touch Israel.

00:09:00.580 And the other end of the rectangle touches Egypt.

00:09:03.840 And that's that fence.

00:09:05.220 By the way, it's a much more powerful and impenetrable—there's seven layers, you can see there, of concrete walls and barbed wire.

00:09:13.200 They're much more forceful than between Israel and Gaza, which was a disaster for Israel on October 7th, 2023.

00:09:22.740 I think there's a reason why Egypt has that wall. 1.00

00:09:26.420 There's a reason why not a single Arab nation in the world is willing to take people from Gaza. 1.00

00:09:33.180 They know that from birth they are inculcated in terrorism.

00:09:36.920 I don't know if other Arab countries really care about the anti-Semitism part, but they know that Hamas has been teaching people in Gaza violence and terrorism for an entire generation ever since Gaza was handed to Hamas in 2005.

00:09:52.520 So exactly 19 years.

00:09:55.500 The average population in Gaza isn't much older than 19 years.

00:09:59.560 So half of people in Gaza, from the day they were born until today, have been fed a diet of anti-Semitism and violence.

00:10:07.660 What Arab country would want to import them? 1.00

00:10:09.380 Do you think Dubai, that gleaming jewel in the desert, would want to bring in people who have been taught hatred and explosion?

00:10:16.100 By the way, they could have built a Dubai in Gaza.

00:10:18.980 Like I say, it's on the Mediterranean.

00:10:21.920 You know, what a great place to be.

00:10:24.400 If you were friends and peaceful with Israel, Cairo's not far away.

00:10:29.380 You've got a gorgeous beach.

00:10:31.640 So much aid money has flown in.

00:10:33.300 They could have built Dubai.

00:10:35.580 Instead, they built underground terror tunnels.

00:10:38.100 What a shame.

00:10:39.140 By the way, Trudeau and Miller say that they will not deport people.

00:10:43.280 They're relying on self-deportation.

00:10:46.100 That's not really a thing.

00:10:48.060 I mean, who would voluntarily go back to Pakistan or Syria or Afghanistan or Somalia?

00:10:52.800 Would you?

00:10:53.540 And I'm not even blaming them.

00:10:55.100 We're the fools who let them in. 0.52

00:10:56.280 If you came from a failed state, each of those countries I just listed is a failed state.

00:11:01.260 Would you voluntarily go back?

00:11:03.700 Actually, that's sort of a trick question, because in many cases, these so-called refugees do go back to the countries where they're allegedly in danger.

00:11:12.580 They go back for holidays or to visit friends and family.

00:11:15.400 So they're not really in that much danger if they go back from time to time.

00:11:19.500 So that's the Canadian approach.

00:11:21.020 We've got 4.9 million people who do not have the right to be here, even under our lax system. 0.95

00:11:26.620 And they have to leave by the end of next year, 13 months from now.

00:11:30.680 They ain't gonna.

00:11:32.740 Compare that to the new sheriff in town.

00:11:34.560 Tom Homan, who's nominated by Trump as the border czar, he's got a little bit of a different point of view.

00:11:41.500 Here he is talking to 60 Minutes about how it's not heartless to deport children.

00:11:49.140 How could you possibly excuse that?

00:11:51.080 Well, here's Tom Homan.

00:11:51.820 We have seen one estimate that says it would cost $88 billion to deport a million people a year.

00:12:01.060 I don't know if that's accurate or not.

00:12:03.300 Is that what American taxpayers should expect?

00:12:06.060 What price do you put on our national security?

00:12:07.900 Is that worth it?

00:12:09.000 Is there a way to carry out mass deportation without separating families?

00:12:14.000 Of course there is.

00:12:16.980 And he's right.

00:12:18.080 When you arrest a dad and there's a kid there, the kid is put into custody, not as a criminal, but if you're deporting the dad, you know, the kid can go with the dad.

00:12:30.560 You can't escape from the law because you happen to have a kid.

00:12:34.740 I, you know, that's tough love, but that is the law.

00:12:37.260 And I think when you have tens of millions of illegal foreigners, as the United States does, if you don't take that point of view, you're never going to get it done. 0.99

00:12:45.600 And here's Tom Homan with AOC talking about similar things.

00:12:50.020 What I'm saying, this is not the only paper where we've given the secretary numerous options to secure the border and save lives.

00:12:57.300 And so the recommendation of the many that you recommended, you recommended family separation.

00:13:02.920 I recommended zero tolerance.

00:13:04.880 Which includes family separation.

00:13:07.160 The same as it is whenever a U.S. citizen parent gets arrested with a child.

00:13:10.840 Zero tolerance was interpreted as the policy that separated children from their parents.

00:13:19.520 If I get arrested for DUI and I have a young child in a car, I'm going to be separated.

00:13:23.540 When I was a police officer in New York and I arrested a father for domestic violence, I separated that father from his family.

00:13:28.440 Mr. Homan, with all due respect, legal asylees are not charged with any crime. 0.54

00:13:35.080 When you're in the country illegally, it's a violation of the United States Code 1325.

00:13:40.540 Seeking asylum is legal. 0.99

00:13:42.860 If you want to seek asylum and go through the port of entry, do it the legal way. 0.79

00:13:46.460 The Attorney General of the United States has made that clear.

00:13:49.220 Okay.

00:13:49.720 You know that old saying, it's closing time, you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.

00:13:55.060 You ever heard that phrase?

00:13:56.280 It's in a song.

00:13:56.980 Well, these 4.9 million people, they don't have to go home, but they can't stay here. 0.98

00:14:03.980 Now, we don't want people being deported from the United States.

00:14:07.620 We don't want illegal migrants from the United States. 1.00

00:14:10.140 Trudeau gave us that for many years at Roxham Road.

00:14:13.400 And the irony is, we weren't taking their best.

00:14:16.560 We were taking people who were about to be deported from the United States, often for reasons of criminality.

00:14:22.060 You're convicted of a crime, you're going to be deported, get yourself up to Roxham Road, walk across the border into Canada, shred your documents.

00:14:29.040 They might not even know you're a criminal, and Trudeau will let you stay forever.

00:14:32.480 So we don't want U.S. migrants. 1.00

00:14:35.260 Those numbers are likely about to skyrocket when Tom Homan takes over.

00:14:40.000 But what about those 4.9 million going south?

00:14:45.140 The U.S. doesn't want our migrants either.

00:14:47.300 This is actually a crisis for Justin Trudeau, because Donald Trump has said if we don't fix that border to illegals and to drugs,

00:14:55.580 and there's a lot of drugs that come through Canada, including originating in China, he's going to smack us with a 25% tariff.

00:15:03.080 Now, I don't know if you saw that, but he said the exact same thing about Mexico, too.

00:15:07.940 If you look at the statement by Trump, he put Mexico and Canada in the same tier, which, you know, I saw Doug Ford the other day saying that was an insult.

00:15:16.040 Did you see that clip I dug for? Here, take a look.

00:15:18.200 Last night at 6.35, we received the biggest threat we've ever received from our closest friends and ally,

00:15:27.160 from President-elect Trump, that they're threatening to put a 25% tariff on all goods coming across the border into the U.S. and Mexico.

00:15:38.040 What I found unfair about the comments is to compare us to Mexico, and I can tell you Canada is no Mexico.

00:15:48.260 We do, approximately, just Ontario alone, $500 billion of two-way trade.

00:15:54.860 I found his comments unfair.

00:15:58.880 I found them insulting.

00:16:01.220 It's like a family member stabbing you right in the heart.

00:16:05.460 I spent a lot of time in the U.S., and I have yet to talk to one American that has any issue with Canadians.

00:16:15.420 We see drugs flow from Mexico, coming up through California, in through B.C., into Alberta, into Ontario.

00:16:25.740 And what we need to do is take that threat seriously.

00:16:29.380 I had a conversation with the Prime Minister after he spoke to President-elect Trump last night.

00:16:34.040 The threat is serious.

00:16:37.620 We need to do better on our borders.

00:16:40.540 We need to give the resources to CBSA, which are fine people.

00:16:45.300 And I know, talking to other premiers last night, that we will do everything we can,

00:16:51.360 as provincial governments and territorial governments, to secure our borders.

00:16:56.680 There's no two closer allies, more of an open border, than Canada and the U.S.

00:17:02.440 And I want to emphasize, to compare us to Mexico is the most insulting thing I've ever heard

00:17:10.160 from our friends and closest allies, the United States of America.

00:17:15.420 He was deeply insulted being compared to Mexico.

00:17:19.440 Well, get over it.

00:17:21.420 Get over yourself.

00:17:22.820 Canada is not acting like America's best friend.

00:17:26.060 And Trump has asked for a border to stop illegals and to stop drugs.

00:17:30.360 And Trudeau has not answered him yet.

00:17:32.360 He's humming and hawing.

00:17:34.340 So we are in Mexico's league.

00:17:36.060 By the way, economically, we're falling.

00:17:38.480 It won't be too long before Mexico catches up to us. 0.98

00:17:41.360 Our loony is the lowest it's been in years.

00:17:44.440 It's not quite where the peso is, but it'll get there in time.

00:17:47.440 As Trudeau says, the budget will balance itself.

00:17:50.500 But compare that to the Mexican president.

00:17:54.100 Donald Trump had a phone call.

00:17:55.700 He's not president yet.

00:17:57.180 Trump is sitting there in Mar-a-Lago.

00:17:58.500 He's not in the White House.

00:17:59.780 He's in transition mode.

00:18:01.580 He's got two more months before he's president.

00:18:03.160 He makes one tweet.

00:18:05.080 Then he follows up with a phone call.

00:18:07.020 And the Mexican president says, OK.

00:18:10.560 Trump made a couple of tweets thrilled with that.

00:18:12.840 He was so proud of his relationship.

00:18:15.000 The Mexican president has tweeted a couple times, too.

00:18:17.200 She hasn't, she's tried to rephrase it.

00:18:19.880 She says, we'll take care of the migrant caravans in our country, but we'll, you know, we will maintain our own sovereignty and our border. 0.99

00:18:28.660 So she has conceded it, because if you think Canada would be flattened, Mexico would be flattened even harder if there were a hard economic border between that country and the United States.

00:18:41.000 So, you know, the new president of Mexico is a socialist, a socialist woman.

00:18:47.700 I think in every way, on a personal level, she likely disagrees with and maybe even despises Donald Trump.

00:18:57.000 But she's a grown-up.

00:18:59.680 She's serious enough to say, this is a real threat to my country.

00:19:04.420 Trump isn't even really asking for anything other than a border, which I should have anyways.

00:19:12.980 So do I want to get into a fight with the incoming president and let him turn me into a talking point and an example to encourage the others?

00:19:21.380 Or do I want to swallow my pride and do something that, frankly, I should do anyways, have a border?

00:19:28.420 It's not like he's asking for money.

00:19:30.760 It's not like he, this is not even a trade negotiation.

00:19:33.900 It may look that way, the threat of tariffs.

00:19:37.400 He's saying, please control your illegal migrants and your illegal drugs. 1.00

00:19:41.080 You should be doing that anyways.

00:19:43.820 But let me turn to the thought experiment.

00:19:46.380 I'm just giving you some background there.

00:19:47.860 Let's say there's 4.9 million people in this country who have to leave in the next year.

00:19:53.680 Let's have a thought experiment.

00:19:56.220 Now, some of those people on a temporary visa may well be very valuable members of our society.

00:20:04.100 I'm sure there are.

00:20:05.280 I'm sure there are people who are completely peaceful, who are here legally, who came here without false pretenses.

00:20:14.260 They're not at a fake college.

00:20:16.760 They're probably patriotic, culturally adapting to our Canadian ways, economically beneficial.

00:20:23.300 They're not on welfare.

00:20:24.500 I bet there are absolute, and there might even be a lot of those folks.

00:20:28.400 That might be 1 million of the people listed.

00:20:31.620 It's not 1 million of the foreign students here at these diploma mills.

00:20:37.360 It's not a million of these workers who are often super low-priced working at Tim Hortons, undercutting.

00:20:46.780 You know, I'm sure they're nice people, but they're having almost a million foreign workers in this country to undercut Canadian wages. 1.00

00:20:54.960 You don't have the right to be a permanent worker.

00:20:58.260 It's right in the name, temporary foreign worker.

00:21:01.920 But let's say out of the 4.9 million, a million of them are beneficial.

00:21:05.660 They really are bringing something of value to this country.

00:21:09.400 Maybe there are doctors and engineers amongst them.

00:21:12.000 I haven't seen a lot, but I'm sure there are some.

00:21:14.260 So let's say there's a million people here who we really want to stay.

00:21:19.040 Let's talk about the other 3.9 million.

00:21:22.960 Some of them are the worst people in the world.

00:21:25.440 We know there have been several ISIS terrorists.

00:21:28.680 We know that almost every day, someone on the terrorist watch list tries to go from Canada to the United States.

00:21:34.960 They're stopped and turned back, but they're not arrested in Canada.

00:21:38.680 We have actual people on the terrorist watch list in this country milling around.

00:21:44.540 Let's get rid of them.

00:21:47.180 There are convicted criminals in this country, many who have come up from the United States.

00:21:51.440 There are hundreds of thousands of fraudulent refugees, including foreign students who just decided once they're here, 1.00

00:21:58.680 they're going to apply for refugee status because they know we're a soft touch.

00:22:01.880 Many of this 4.9 million, I dare say even half or more, are just chancers. 0.98

00:22:09.000 What I mean by that is people who are seeking opportunity, and we're such chumps.

00:22:12.880 And by the way, you've got to give a grudging respect to someone who games the system and says,

00:22:17.060 oh, so if I say I'm a student at some college in some strip mall that doesn't even really exist,

00:22:24.240 if I pay 10 grand to the college for tuition, I can come to Canada?

00:22:29.060 Okay, great. I'd much rather be in Canada than in this crummy country that luck would have it I was born in.

00:22:36.460 I have a grudging respect for people willing to improve their lot that way,

00:22:40.080 but 4.9 million people in a country of our size, no thanks.

00:22:44.340 A lot of these folks lack Canadian ethics and values, lack the values of a high-trust society.

00:22:49.620 I've seen stories about food banks who now have a policy that they refuse to give food to people who are these foreign students.

00:22:59.420 Because they're foreign students, they've come here, they're wealthy enough to pay thousands of dollars in tuition,

00:23:04.180 and then they say, well, these sucker Canadians give us free food. 0.74

00:23:08.400 You just walk in and get free food.

00:23:09.940 Those food banks are for truly hungry people, Canadians first, not for grifters who are just low-trust society, 0.99

00:23:20.000 people operating in a high-trust society and fleecing us.

00:23:24.780 Imagine if at the end of the day, only 1 million of the 4.9 million left.

00:23:32.340 Let's just start with that small number.

00:23:34.220 What would it do to Canada if 1 million people left?

00:23:39.680 What would that do to rentals, to the price of a home rental in Toronto, Vancouver, and Montreal?

00:23:46.560 What would it do to the price of housing?

00:23:49.940 Supply and demand, right?

00:23:52.260 You take a million people out of the system, prices are going to come down in a serious way.

00:23:58.740 Healthcare lines are going to shorten in a serious way.

00:24:01.940 Schools won't be overcrowded in a serious way.

00:24:06.680 Inflation.

00:24:07.320 You remove a million people from the country.

00:24:10.700 A million people bidding up the price of everything just by consuming.

00:24:16.240 You're going to reduce inflation.

00:24:18.640 You might even have deflation.

00:24:21.680 You'll be able to notice it just with your eyes.

00:24:24.260 In the streets, in the traffic, in the parks.

00:24:27.040 You know, some of the cultural differences.

00:24:30.540 People pooping on the beach.

00:24:32.420 You'll probably see less of that.

00:24:34.580 I think you'll probably see less of the strife on our streets brought over from foreign lands. 1.00

00:24:40.060 These Hamas protesters I'm dealing with. 0.98

00:24:42.520 Some of the battles we see between different warring ethnicities from the South Asian subcontinent.

00:24:48.040 I think if one million people left this country, even though 4.9 million people have to,

00:24:56.040 even just the departure of one million people would improve everything about Canada, I think.

00:25:04.020 Here's the irony.

00:25:05.220 People in Canada want to be friendly to foreigners.

00:25:07.500 Don't you feel that instinct?

00:25:09.180 Or didn't you until very recently?

00:25:11.940 My whole life, I don't know if it's just me, but if there was someone new to this country,

00:25:17.140 obviously new from a different culture, I just sort of went into hospitality mode and say,

00:25:21.420 hey, how are you?

00:25:22.680 You know, let me be friendly to you.

00:25:24.400 Let me show you around.

00:25:25.700 I mean, there was sort of a Canadian-ness to welcoming people.

00:25:30.960 And I think that was the case until maybe five years ago.

00:25:35.840 Trudeau, and then Trudeau, maybe it was 10 years ago when Trudeau brought over 50,000 Syrians

00:25:42.300 as a political move, when he decided that he only got a slim, I mean, he never has come close

00:25:50.100 to winning the popular vote, but he could replace right-wing voters by importing half the third world 0.99

00:25:55.860 and having them vote for him.

00:25:58.580 I think he imported millions of foreigners for various reasons, to drive down wages for corporate 1.00

00:26:04.700 employers, to drive up rents and housing prices for corporate developers, to juice the GDP.

00:26:12.160 On a per capita basis, it went down, but Trudeau could boast growth because you bring in millions

00:26:17.460 of people, yeah, your economy is going to grow, but on average, we're all poorer.

00:26:21.960 I think Canadians sort of liked being friendly to foreigners.

00:26:25.600 We liked being nice, whatever that means.

00:26:29.680 But I think over the last five or 10 years, we realized we've been taken for suckers.

00:26:34.700 These aren't real refugees. 0.99

00:26:36.620 We all know that.

00:26:38.220 We're being taken for suckers and chumps.

00:26:41.540 And even more recently, we're losing our country and our country's values, and we feel like

00:26:47.400 the Canada we always know is slipping away.

00:26:50.880 I'd like to get back to an immigration rate. 0.88

00:26:54.140 Maybe it's 100,000 a year.

00:26:55.880 Maybe it's 200,000 a year.

00:26:57.320 A low enough number that we can choose who's coming, not just whoever manages to get on

00:27:03.620 a plane or walk across a border, that we are choosing the absolute best people in the

00:27:10.580 world who share our values, love our country, add wealth and happiness, and who are patriots,

00:27:17.900 not the kind of people who chant for Holocaust and wave terrorist flags.

00:27:22.680 You know, there's an old saying, absence makes the heart grow fonder.

00:27:28.680 When new immigrants are an occasional delight to meet, you like them.

00:27:34.560 That's how Canada felt for hundreds of years.

00:27:36.940 But with 4.9 million people taking advantage of it, half of them fraudulent students, half

00:27:42.960 of them fraudulent refugees, and hundreds of thousands of them anti-Semitic terrorism supporters, 0.61

00:27:48.420 the irony here is that Trudeau is the one who destroyed immigration as a good in the

00:27:57.120 public, in the mind of Canadians.

00:27:58.840 It was Trudeau and the way he approached immigration that turned Canadians, including new Canadians,

00:28:05.420 against mass immigration.

00:28:07.180 What an irony that is.

00:28:09.180 And as far as I'm concerned, we need a Tom Homan.

00:28:14.040 Stay with us for more.

00:28:18.420 Earlier today, we interviewed Alberta Premier Danielle Smith about the startling statement

00:28:33.580 by Donald Trump that if Canada does not seal our borders to illegal migrants and illegal

00:28:38.200 drugs, Trump is going to slap a 25 percent tariff on all our exports to the states that

00:28:43.600 would obviously devastate the economy. 0.93

00:28:44.880 It's my belief that Trump doesn't actually want to do that.

00:28:48.740 He's just trying to get Canada's attention.

00:28:50.900 And you know what?

00:28:51.720 He's not making demands that are unreasonable either for him as an American leader or frankly

00:28:56.740 for Canadians.

00:28:58.540 The analogy, I've been trying to think of this analogy in my mind.

00:29:02.160 I think it would be like a neighbor who doesn't have a high fence saying, your dog is dangerous.

00:29:09.140 It's out of control.

00:29:10.140 Can you please stop your dog from attacking everything or I'm going to have to put a fence

00:29:14.840 between us?

00:29:15.960 Obviously, good fences make good neighbors and it's in his right to build a fence.

00:29:20.820 But shouldn't you take care of your dangerous dog anyways?

00:29:23.600 Maybe that's not a perfect analogy.

00:29:25.320 My point is what Trump is asking Canada to do is something that we should do in our own

00:29:30.500 interest.

00:29:31.860 Crack down on illegal immigration and illegal drugs.

00:29:34.740 Anyways, here's my conversation with the Premier a little bit earlier.

00:29:40.140 First of all, Premier, congratulations.

00:29:43.080 I haven't talked to you since you won more than 91% from the party faithful at your recent

00:29:49.800 conference in Red Deer.

00:29:51.080 Give us just one minute on that and then I want to go to the news of the day.

00:29:55.040 Well, look, you never know with conservative parties.

00:29:57.500 They like to sometimes send a message to their leader and they can, we have a lot of different

00:30:02.720 factions in our party.

00:30:04.060 But I think generally speaking, they're pretty happy with the direction that we're going.

00:30:07.200 And so I take that as a vote of confidence, but I never want to take the support for granted.

00:30:12.200 Well, and it keeps you attentive to your base.

00:30:14.820 I think there were more than 6,000 people at that convention.

00:30:18.660 That's got to be one of the largest conventions in recent Canadian history.

00:30:22.140 So congrats for that.

00:30:23.560 One of the things that I think people support is that you are willing to take on Ottawa and

00:30:29.180 Justin Trudeau and his extremist cabinet ministers like Stephen Gilbeau.

00:30:33.060 I want to talk to you about Donald Trump because he has said to Mexico and Canada, if you don't

00:30:39.700 stop your open borders and illegal migration and illegal drugs, we will slap you with a 1.00

00:30:46.280 tariff.

00:30:46.980 And I don't think he wants the tariff.

00:30:49.300 I think he wants to stop the porous border.

00:30:52.180 Tell me what you're going to do because I saw a press release.

00:30:55.900 Let me just read one line.

00:30:57.000 Alberta will be acting urgently and decisively to patrol our own shared border with Montana.

00:31:06.520 More details to be announced soon in that regard.

00:31:09.260 So I won't press you on the details for how that'll happen.

00:31:13.660 In my mind, I see cowboys and ranchers, you know, with lassoes.

00:31:17.500 I'm sure it'll be something different than that.

00:31:19.260 But just to say Alberta is going to take this issue seriously is very interesting because

00:31:25.160 you're really filling the void left by Justin Trudeau and Melanie Jolie.

00:31:31.380 Let me start by saying I believe Donald Trump when he says what he says about what his concerns

00:31:37.380 are, what the trade irritants are.

00:31:39.380 He's really concerned about China using Canada or Mexico as a conduit to bring cheap goods

00:31:45.040 into the United States.

00:31:46.080 He's concerned about the fact that we haven't met our 2% NATO commitment to support national

00:31:50.860 defense.

00:31:51.660 And more recently, he's concerned about the cross-border problem of not only illegal migrants,

00:31:55.820 but also fentanyl.

00:31:57.380 And these are shared concerns.

00:31:58.920 We have those concerns as well.

00:32:00.460 I've been raising them.

00:32:01.340 Other premiers have been raising them.

00:32:03.060 And so it seems to me that the smartest move would be to say, yes, we agree we've got to

00:32:08.380 address this issue and to start putting some meaningful resources on the border to make that

00:32:12.400 happen.

00:32:12.780 And what we have said is we're happy to work with our provincial counterparts and our federal

00:32:17.440 counterparts to make that happen.

00:32:18.920 We've got sheriffs that we can deploy.

00:32:20.760 We've been using drone technology to fight fires up in northern Alberta mostly.

00:32:25.440 We can use drone technology as well to be able to monitor that border.

00:32:29.000 And we're prepared to deploy the resources that we need to give the Americans and to give our

00:32:33.220 own people some comfort that we are addressing this issue in a serious way.

00:32:36.720 Alberta is responsible actually on a dollar basis for the lion's share of trade with America.

00:32:43.280 I'm talking about oil and gas.

00:32:45.240 Saskatchewan and B.C. have a part to play there too.

00:32:47.500 But Alberta is the mother load. 0.93

00:32:49.320 It would be devastating and economically bizarre to have a 25 percent tariff on oil.

00:32:55.800 I don't even know how that would work.

00:32:57.140 So I think that Americans, especially in the incoming president's office, would be delighted

00:33:03.200 to see that the oil province is on board.

00:33:06.500 Have you had any feedback?

00:33:07.840 I know your statement only went out yesterday.

00:33:10.360 Have you had even some informal feedback from the transition team?

00:33:15.320 Because I know Joe Biden's still the titular president.

00:33:18.580 But have you had anyone say, look, it's just on an informal basis.

00:33:23.900 We like the message you're sending.

00:33:25.840 We want to get Alberta's exports tariff-free too.

00:33:28.940 Any feedback yet at all?

00:33:30.640 We've been reaching out to all of our contacts.

00:33:32.500 As you know, we've had an office in Washington as a province since about 2005.

00:33:37.400 And the reason for that is that we believe we are the ones to tell our own story.

00:33:41.960 As you know, resources are the jurisdiction of the provinces.

00:33:46.320 And so we think it's incumbent upon us for us to be able to tell our American friends

00:33:50.460 just how great a friend and ally and supplier of oil and gas that Alberta is.

00:33:56.360 I think somebody recently sent me a note saying that if they did slap that kind of tariff on it,

00:34:01.260 it would increase gasoline prices by $1.50 a gallon in the United States.

00:34:05.640 At the same time that we know that the Trump administration wants to bring those prices down.

00:34:09.540 So we think we've got a really good story to tell.

00:34:11.580 And we'll be reaching out to all of the contacts that we have to be able to tell that story.

00:34:17.160 I'm especially pleased that last week, a governor's council on energy security invited Alberta to be a part of it.

00:34:24.180 So I'll be joining that committee along with 12 other governors to be able to push that message forward

00:34:29.800 that we are here, we are a friend and ally, and we are the solution, I think,

00:34:34.120 to a lot of the energy security and energy affordability problems in the U.S.

00:34:37.680 So I'm looking forward to continue to bring that message forward.

00:34:40.960 You know, Justin Trudeau's front bench has all disparaged Trump in personal snipes.

00:34:47.460 Trudeau himself, Jolie, Chrystia Freeland, I think they've all sort of burnt the bridges.

00:34:53.600 They never thought Trump would be re-elected, so they let their mouths yap a little bit.

00:34:58.720 I hope that you can fill the void as a good faith interlocutor,

00:35:04.160 even though that's not constitutionally your role, it would be sort of unusual for a province to take the lead.

00:35:10.860 I just think that, I don't think Trump has a lot of time for the people who he would normally deal with.

00:35:17.880 Hey, let me give you an example.

00:35:19.480 I'd love your comment on this.

00:35:21.680 Trump put Mexico and Canada in the same press release, which is sort of something.

00:35:26.340 And in one phone call, the new president of Mexico basically said,

00:35:31.460 all right, let's work constructively here.

00:35:34.380 We will manage it on our side.

00:35:36.140 And Trump had an effusive tweet praising her afterwards.

00:35:40.660 No such luck for his call with Trudeau.

00:35:44.700 What can we learn from how Mexico is handling Trump?

00:35:49.360 I have no doubt that the president of Mexico doesn't personally like Trump.

00:35:52.380 They're ideologically miles apart, but she's being a grown-up about it.

00:35:56.820 What does it look like for Canadian leaders to be a grown-up with dealing with Trump?

00:36:02.080 Tell me what you plan to do, the language you plan to use, the tools you plan to use,

00:36:07.380 so we can be constructive with Trump.

00:36:10.000 I think it would have been very easy for Justin Trudeau in that first call to have that exact same outcome.

00:36:15.380 And I'm not quite sure why they didn't get around to talking about the issues that Donald Trump has raised.

00:36:20.880 But I can tell you all the premiers, when we had our joint meeting with the prime minister,

00:36:25.420 made it very clear that we believe he's serious,

00:36:27.480 and we believe that if we do not act on the issues he's raised,

00:36:30.420 that we will see 25% tariffs by the time we get to January the 20th.

00:36:34.900 I think he's given us two months' notice.

00:36:37.040 And I think he's been very clear about what he wants us to do.

00:36:39.240 And if the solution is to let him know, just as the Mexican president has, that this is serious,

00:36:46.320 they'll be addressing the issue of both migrants as well as crime, then why wouldn't we do that? 0.98

00:36:52.260 We need to do that too.

00:36:53.600 We've been talking about that, as has Quebec, about the concern that we have about illegal migration

00:36:58.340 and the number of people who are coming in.

00:37:00.940 The expiring work permits, I think there's 4.9 million of them,

00:37:04.440 and the federal government doesn't seem to have a plan for what's going to happen when that expires.

00:37:07.900 That's got to be causing some nervousness for people, not only here but also in the United States.

00:37:12.540 We also know that we've been fighting a drug war for the last number of years

00:37:17.260 that is leaving carnage on our streets.

00:37:19.500 We've got a record high level of opioid deaths as a result of overdose and fentanyl,

00:37:25.240 which is an incredibly dangerous drug.

00:37:27.240 And so it should be incumbent upon us to work with our federal counterparts to stop that problem,

00:37:32.260 as Mexico has pledged to do.

00:37:33.780 So I look at it this way, is that we need to address the trade irritants,

00:37:38.940 these kind of things, before we can get on to talking about the genuine trade issues.

00:37:44.040 And so that's what I'm going to be putting forward, is if we can demonstrate as a province

00:37:49.340 that we're prepared to give secure borders on the part that we're responsible for,

00:37:54.680 which borders Montana, then I think we can begin the conversation about what else can we do

00:37:59.860 to be able to maintain our ties on energy security.

00:38:03.320 And that's where I'm going.

00:38:04.620 That's what I think is important for me to do.

00:38:06.500 I think it's important for the other provinces to do.

00:38:08.480 And I sure hope that Justin Trudeau very soon comes up with a border security strategy

00:38:12.760 that is going to be equally robust.

00:38:15.400 I'm delighted to hear it.

00:38:16.740 I think it's pretty amazing that you have taken this initiative

00:38:20.300 to deal with a real public policy problem that Trudeau won't.

00:38:23.920 I wish you good luck.

00:38:24.660 I know you've got to run, but I'm so grateful that you popped on to Rebel News to give us this update.

00:38:29.700 And we'll be following you very closely.

00:38:31.400 Thanks for your time.

00:38:32.560 Thanks, Ezra.

00:38:40.960 Hey, welcome back.

00:38:41.900 Your letters to me.

00:38:42.840 Routine Dean writes about the U.S. threat of tariffs and says,

00:38:47.580 we should want this anyway without any threat of tariffs.

00:38:49.880 It's just common sense.

00:38:51.320 Yeah, that's the thing.

00:38:52.180 It's like a neighbor saying, gee, you haven't mowed your lawn in months,

00:38:57.500 and it's overgrown, and it's a bit of a mess.

00:39:01.160 Please mow your lawn, or I'm going to put up a fence between our properties.

00:39:06.780 I mean, first of all, it's not that unreasonable for your neighbor to say,

00:39:09.400 but by the way, you should mow your own lawn for your own dignity.

00:39:12.980 I think he's right.

00:39:14.980 World Gone Crazy says, congratulations to Donald Trump

00:39:17.700 to be the first person in Justin Trudeau's miserable existence to spank him

00:39:21.500 and put him in his place.

00:39:22.820 Thank you, Mr. Trump.

00:39:23.920 Yeah, I mean, I'm a patriotic Canadian,

00:39:26.980 and I don't like to see people walking all over our country.

00:39:30.260 And Trump is spanking Trudeau, and he's saying, do this,

00:39:33.660 or I'm going to hurt your whole country.

00:39:35.400 And I don't want our whole country to be hurt.

00:39:37.080 But I'm also smart enough to see that this is not actually a real threat,

00:39:42.140 or at least it's a real threat, but the spanking is not the desired outcome.

00:39:47.760 Trump wants Canada to do the right thing.

00:39:50.620 He just knows Trudeau needs a little boot in the behind

00:39:55.020 because nothing else has motivated him to do the right thing.

00:39:59.080 Isn't it funny that Trump, besides saving America, will help save Canada?

00:40:03.240 Tammy Mee says Trudeau's plan is to destroy Canada from within.

00:40:08.500 His lack of action on illegal immigration is hence intentional,

00:40:11.900 but soon he will have a big problem with President Trump

00:40:13.900 because everything that happens in Canada affects the states and vice versa.

00:40:18.480 It's true.

00:40:19.160 I mean, let me give you an example.

00:40:20.680 The auto sector.

00:40:21.860 I mean, there's not that many cars made in Canada anymore.

00:40:24.580 I hate to say it.

00:40:25.380 But there are still quite a few.

00:40:27.420 And they're made in Windsor and Detroit.

00:40:30.520 And really, the parts cross back and forth across that Ambassador Bridge.

00:40:34.040 Like an automobile is made in both Detroit and Windsor in many cases.

00:40:39.240 You slap a 25% tariff on stuff coming from Canada.

00:40:42.080 I don't even know how that works.

00:40:43.220 But you're hurting the U.S. auto sector.

00:40:45.620 There's a lot of other sectors.

00:40:47.020 The banking sector.

00:40:48.040 How do you extricate that?

00:40:50.740 You know, digital media, creative arts, movies, TV.

00:40:54.140 I'm just, I mean, you can list literally anything.

00:40:56.860 Agriculture, energy.

00:40:57.820 God forbid they put a tariff on Canadian energy.

00:41:01.500 I don't think they would do that to themselves.

00:41:03.360 I don't actually think it's a threat that will ever be carried out because I think it'll

00:41:07.220 shake Canada awake.

00:41:09.220 And if there are any grownups in the Liberal Party, they'll say, we are going to solve this

00:41:13.780 because we can't even risk going down that road.

00:41:16.460 I don't think Trump plans to go down that road because I think he is a sophisticated and

00:41:22.520 experienced enough negotiator that he knows how to get what he wants without the or else.

00:41:28.200 He just needs to say the or else to scare a weak negotiator like Trudeau into line.

00:41:34.080 I don't know, interesting days.

00:41:35.280 But so far, Donald Trump's sole interaction with Canada, apparently he had a phone call

00:41:41.640 with Trudeau.

00:41:42.240 He didn't tweet about it.

00:41:43.480 Sounds like it was a failure.

00:41:44.440 Anyways, we'll keep you posted on that.

00:41:46.940 That's our show for today.

00:41:48.640 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters to you at home,

00:41:52.060 good night and keep fighting for freedom.

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Rebel News Podcast - November 29, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Will 5 million foreigners really leave Canada in 13 months？

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