EZRA LEVANT ｜ Will 5 million foreigners really leave Canada in 13 months？
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There are 4.9 million foreigners in Canada on temporary visas who allegedly have to leave in the next 13 months. That's an astonishing number. Here's the exchange about it from a parliamentary committee the other day: "How will your department ensure that at the end of those study permits, those who have been granted them will leave?"
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There are 4.9 million foreigners in Canada on temporary visas who allegedly have to leave in 13 months.
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It's November 28th and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
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I first heard the number of 4.9 million foreigners in Canada who are supposed to leave in the next 13 months.
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I had never heard that number before and I heard it from no one less than Pierre Pagliav the other day.
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Remember when he said that, just apropos of Donald Trump talking about the borders?
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About a week ago, Justin Trudeau admitted that he broke our immigration system and that brings new challenges.
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His own published documents show there are 4.9 million people here temporarily that are supposed to leave by December 31st of next year.
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13 months from now, 4.9 million people, we asked what the plan was to track their departures and yesterday his immigration minister said we're just going to take people at their word.
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He admits that there have been two ISIS terrorists allowed into our country.
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What is the plan to protect our security and reinstate sovereignty over who is in our country?
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That's an astonishing number and although it's just terrifying for Canadians to know that more than 10% of our people on the streets have no right to be here 13 months from now and there's no way they're just going to self-deport.
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I can understand why the United States of America is worried about our border because if we ever were to enforce that, why wouldn't they just walk across into the States?
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Here's the exchange about it from a parliamentary committee the other day.
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Minister, your department tabled documents with Parliament that show that 4.9 million visas are going to expire between September 2024 and December 2025.
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How will we know how many of those actually wind up leaving?
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As you noted, MP Kamich, when people come here, in many of their visa documents, they undertake to leave.
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As part of the levels plan, there will be some visas that are temporary in nature that will not be reviewed, renewed rather.
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And those people, when they undertook to come here, will be expected to leave.
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There are many measures within our department to monitor these things.
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But it's one that, given the volume in question, it's something that we'll have to be very careful in supervising.
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Minister, I wasn't asking about whether they will leave or not.
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I'm asking you, how will you ensure that a person whose visa has expired will leave?
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We know that just on study permits, there are 766,000 expiring by the end of December 2025.
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How will your department ensure that at the end of those study permit periods, those persons will leave?
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Again, there are many ways that people leave the country, Tom.
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The vast majority leave voluntarily, and that's what's expected.
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We work with our partners, including CBSA, to investigate, obviously, and prosecute those who violate immigration law.
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If someone refuses to leave, they're in violation of the law.
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And CBSA, after due process, has the legal obligation to remove people.
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Again, this isn't something that is taken lightly, but in the vast majority of cases, those people that have come here temporarily and do not have the right to stay, in fact, leave.
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Yeah, I don't believe that there are enough border police to deport 4.9 million people in the next 13 months.
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I think that would require every police force, and perhaps even occasionally, I don't know, I wouldn't want to have the military conducting police or immigration patrols in the country.
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But every single police force in the country would have to be dedicated for that fact to happen, to have 4.9 million people leave in the next 13 months.
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I remember how astonished I was when I learned that 2 million people a year were coming to Canada, a million students.
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That's more than the number of Canadian students.
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Almost a million temporary workers, but twice as many as we have Canadian youth unemployed.
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Half a million refugees, or whatever they're calling themselves now.
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And then about half a million regular immigration.
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I was astonished with those numbers, but it's almost triple that that have built up.
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And you can feel it in almost every city and town in the country.
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And frankly, every park, every national park, every street.
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I saw an image the other day of a couple of jobs up for grabs in an LCBO and an enormous line at the door.
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And they all looked like foreign citizens, frankly.
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Those are 4.9 million people who are getting our free health care.
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Try getting through a pro-Hamas protest that is manned almost exclusively by these Trudeau guests.
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You know, that disgusting anti-Semitic display in my own neighborhood where someone dressed up as that Hamas terrorist leader, Yaya Sinwar.
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According to an online researcher named Leviathan, he's a Syrian refugee led in by Trudeau.
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And, of course, their foreign ways, which is that they don't believe in pluralism and nonviolence.
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And they bring their age-old anti-Semitism from their home countries.
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By the way, there are no Jews in Somalia or Pakistan or Iraq.
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And so the fact that they're anti-Semitic is sort of baffling.
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It's obvious that we're not going to do anything about it in Canada.
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In fact, it looks like Trudeau is lying even now when he claims to be reducing the numbers.
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I understand he's actually decided to bring in even more people from Gaza.
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Just for some food for thought, here's the wall between Egypt and Gaza.
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And one of the four sides of the rectangle touches the sea, the Mediterranean Sea.
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Two of the sides in this rectangle touch Israel.
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And the other end of the rectangle touches Egypt.
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By the way, it's a much more powerful and impenetrable—there's seven layers, you can see there, of concrete walls and barbed wire.
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They're much more forceful than between Israel and Gaza, which was a disaster for Israel on October 7th, 2023.
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I think there's a reason why Egypt has that wall.
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There's a reason why not a single Arab nation in the world is willing to take people from Gaza.
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They know that from birth they are inculcated in terrorism.
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I don't know if other Arab countries really care about the anti-Semitism part, but they know that Hamas has been teaching people in Gaza violence and terrorism for an entire generation ever since Gaza was handed to Hamas in 2005.
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The average population in Gaza isn't much older than 19 years.
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So half of people in Gaza, from the day they were born until today, have been fed a diet of anti-Semitism and violence.
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Do you think Dubai, that gleaming jewel in the desert, would want to bring in people who have been taught hatred and explosion?
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By the way, they could have built a Dubai in Gaza.
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If you were friends and peaceful with Israel, Cairo's not far away.
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Instead, they built underground terror tunnels.
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By the way, Trudeau and Miller say that they will not deport people.
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I mean, who would voluntarily go back to Pakistan or Syria or Afghanistan or Somalia?
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If you came from a failed state, each of those countries I just listed is a failed state.
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Actually, that's sort of a trick question, because in many cases, these so-called refugees do go back to the countries where they're allegedly in danger.
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They go back for holidays or to visit friends and family.
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So they're not really in that much danger if they go back from time to time.
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We've got 4.9 million people who do not have the right to be here, even under our lax system.
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And they have to leave by the end of next year, 13 months from now.
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Tom Homan, who's nominated by Trump as the border czar, he's got a little bit of a different point of view.
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Here he is talking to 60 Minutes about how it's not heartless to deport children.
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We have seen one estimate that says it would cost $88 billion to deport a million people a year.
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What price do you put on our national security?
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Is there a way to carry out mass deportation without separating families?
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When you arrest a dad and there's a kid there, the kid is put into custody, not as a criminal, but if you're deporting the dad, you know, the kid can go with the dad.
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You can't escape from the law because you happen to have a kid.
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I, you know, that's tough love, but that is the law.
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And I think when you have tens of millions of illegal foreigners, as the United States does, if you don't take that point of view, you're never going to get it done.
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And here's Tom Homan with AOC talking about similar things.
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What I'm saying, this is not the only paper where we've given the secretary numerous options to secure the border and save lives.
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And so the recommendation of the many that you recommended, you recommended family separation.
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The same as it is whenever a U.S. citizen parent gets arrested with a child.
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Zero tolerance was interpreted as the policy that separated children from their parents.
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If I get arrested for DUI and I have a young child in a car, I'm going to be separated.
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When I was a police officer in New York and I arrested a father for domestic violence, I separated that father from his family.
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Mr. Homan, with all due respect, legal asylees are not charged with any crime.
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When you're in the country illegally, it's a violation of the United States Code 1325.
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If you want to seek asylum and go through the port of entry, do it the legal way.
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The Attorney General of the United States has made that clear.
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You know that old saying, it's closing time, you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.
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Well, these 4.9 million people, they don't have to go home, but they can't stay here.
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Now, we don't want people being deported from the United States.
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We don't want illegal migrants from the United States.
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Trudeau gave us that for many years at Roxham Road.
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And the irony is, we weren't taking their best.
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We were taking people who were about to be deported from the United States, often for reasons of criminality.
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You're convicted of a crime, you're going to be deported, get yourself up to Roxham Road, walk across the border into Canada, shred your documents.
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They might not even know you're a criminal, and Trudeau will let you stay forever.
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Those numbers are likely about to skyrocket when Tom Homan takes over.
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This is actually a crisis for Justin Trudeau, because Donald Trump has said if we don't fix that border to illegals and to drugs,
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and there's a lot of drugs that come through Canada, including originating in China, he's going to smack us with a 25% tariff.
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Now, I don't know if you saw that, but he said the exact same thing about Mexico, too.
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If you look at the statement by Trump, he put Mexico and Canada in the same tier, which, you know, I saw Doug Ford the other day saying that was an insult.
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Did you see that clip I dug for? Here, take a look.
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Last night at 6.35, we received the biggest threat we've ever received from our closest friends and ally,
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from President-elect Trump, that they're threatening to put a 25% tariff on all goods coming across the border into the U.S. and Mexico.
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What I found unfair about the comments is to compare us to Mexico, and I can tell you Canada is no Mexico.
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We do, approximately, just Ontario alone, $500 billion of two-way trade.
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It's like a family member stabbing you right in the heart.
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I spent a lot of time in the U.S., and I have yet to talk to one American that has any issue with Canadians.
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We see drugs flow from Mexico, coming up through California, in through B.C., into Alberta, into Ontario.
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And what we need to do is take that threat seriously.
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I had a conversation with the Prime Minister after he spoke to President-elect Trump last night.
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We need to give the resources to CBSA, which are fine people.
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And I know, talking to other premiers last night, that we will do everything we can,
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as provincial governments and territorial governments, to secure our borders.
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There's no two closer allies, more of an open border, than Canada and the U.S.
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And I want to emphasize, to compare us to Mexico is the most insulting thing I've ever heard
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from our friends and closest allies, the United States of America.
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He was deeply insulted being compared to Mexico.
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Canada is not acting like America's best friend.
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And Trump has asked for a border to stop illegals and to stop drugs.
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It won't be too long before Mexico catches up to us.
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It's not quite where the peso is, but it'll get there in time.
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As Trudeau says, the budget will balance itself.
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He's got two more months before he's president.
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Trump made a couple of tweets thrilled with that.
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The Mexican president has tweeted a couple times, too.
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She says, we'll take care of the migrant caravans in our country, but we'll, you know, we will maintain our own sovereignty and our border.
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So she has conceded it, because if you think Canada would be flattened, Mexico would be flattened even harder if there were a hard economic border between that country and the United States.
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So, you know, the new president of Mexico is a socialist, a socialist woman.
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I think in every way, on a personal level, she likely disagrees with and maybe even despises Donald Trump.
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She's serious enough to say, this is a real threat to my country.
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Trump isn't even really asking for anything other than a border, which I should have anyways.
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So do I want to get into a fight with the incoming president and let him turn me into a talking point and an example to encourage the others?
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Or do I want to swallow my pride and do something that, frankly, I should do anyways, have a border?
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It's not like he, this is not even a trade negotiation.
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He's saying, please control your illegal migrants and your illegal drugs.
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Let's say there's 4.9 million people in this country who have to leave in the next year.
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Now, some of those people on a temporary visa may well be very valuable members of our society.
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I'm sure there are people who are completely peaceful, who are here legally, who came here without false pretenses.
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They're probably patriotic, culturally adapting to our Canadian ways, economically beneficial.
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I bet there are absolute, and there might even be a lot of those folks.
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It's not 1 million of the foreign students here at these diploma mills.
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It's not a million of these workers who are often super low-priced working at Tim Hortons, undercutting.
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You know, I'm sure they're nice people, but they're having almost a million foreign workers in this country to undercut Canadian wages.
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You don't have the right to be a permanent worker.
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It's right in the name, temporary foreign worker.
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But let's say out of the 4.9 million, a million of them are beneficial.
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They really are bringing something of value to this country.
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Maybe there are doctors and engineers amongst them.
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I haven't seen a lot, but I'm sure there are some.
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So let's say there's a million people here who we really want to stay.
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Some of them are the worst people in the world.
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We know there have been several ISIS terrorists.
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We know that almost every day, someone on the terrorist watch list tries to go from Canada to the United States.
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They're stopped and turned back, but they're not arrested in Canada.
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We have actual people on the terrorist watch list in this country milling around.
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There are convicted criminals in this country, many who have come up from the United States.
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There are hundreds of thousands of fraudulent refugees, including foreign students who just decided once they're here,
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they're going to apply for refugee status because they know we're a soft touch.
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Many of this 4.9 million, I dare say even half or more, are just chancers.
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What I mean by that is people who are seeking opportunity, and we're such chumps.
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And by the way, you've got to give a grudging respect to someone who games the system and says,
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oh, so if I say I'm a student at some college in some strip mall that doesn't even really exist,
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if I pay 10 grand to the college for tuition, I can come to Canada?
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Okay, great. I'd much rather be in Canada than in this crummy country that luck would have it I was born in.
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I have a grudging respect for people willing to improve their lot that way,
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but 4.9 million people in a country of our size, no thanks.
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A lot of these folks lack Canadian ethics and values, lack the values of a high-trust society.
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I've seen stories about food banks who now have a policy that they refuse to give food to people who are these foreign students.
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Because they're foreign students, they've come here, they're wealthy enough to pay thousands of dollars in tuition,
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and then they say, well, these sucker Canadians give us free food.
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Those food banks are for truly hungry people, Canadians first, not for grifters who are just low-trust society,
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people operating in a high-trust society and fleecing us.
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Imagine if at the end of the day, only 1 million of the 4.9 million left.
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What would it do to Canada if 1 million people left?
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What would that do to rentals, to the price of a home rental in Toronto, Vancouver, and Montreal?
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You take a million people out of the system, prices are going to come down in a serious way.
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Healthcare lines are going to shorten in a serious way.
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A million people bidding up the price of everything just by consuming.
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You'll be able to notice it just with your eyes.
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I think you'll probably see less of the strife on our streets brought over from foreign lands.
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Some of the battles we see between different warring ethnicities from the South Asian subcontinent.
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I think if one million people left this country, even though 4.9 million people have to,
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even just the departure of one million people would improve everything about Canada, I think.
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People in Canada want to be friendly to foreigners.
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My whole life, I don't know if it's just me, but if there was someone new to this country,
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obviously new from a different culture, I just sort of went into hospitality mode and say,
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I mean, there was sort of a Canadian-ness to welcoming people.
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And I think that was the case until maybe five years ago.
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Trudeau, and then Trudeau, maybe it was 10 years ago when Trudeau brought over 50,000 Syrians
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as a political move, when he decided that he only got a slim, I mean, he never has come close
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to winning the popular vote, but he could replace right-wing voters by importing half the third world
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I think he imported millions of foreigners for various reasons, to drive down wages for corporate
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employers, to drive up rents and housing prices for corporate developers, to juice the GDP.
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On a per capita basis, it went down, but Trudeau could boast growth because you bring in millions
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of people, yeah, your economy is going to grow, but on average, we're all poorer.
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I think Canadians sort of liked being friendly to foreigners.
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But I think over the last five or 10 years, we realized we've been taken for suckers.
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And even more recently, we're losing our country and our country's values, and we feel like
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A low enough number that we can choose who's coming, not just whoever manages to get on
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a plane or walk across a border, that we are choosing the absolute best people in the
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world who share our values, love our country, add wealth and happiness, and who are patriots,
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not the kind of people who chant for Holocaust and wave terrorist flags.
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You know, there's an old saying, absence makes the heart grow fonder.
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When new immigrants are an occasional delight to meet, you like them.
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But with 4.9 million people taking advantage of it, half of them fraudulent students, half
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of them fraudulent refugees, and hundreds of thousands of them anti-Semitic terrorism supporters,
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the irony here is that Trudeau is the one who destroyed immigration as a good in the
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It was Trudeau and the way he approached immigration that turned Canadians, including new Canadians,
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And as far as I'm concerned, we need a Tom Homan.
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Earlier today, we interviewed Alberta Premier Danielle Smith about the startling statement
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by Donald Trump that if Canada does not seal our borders to illegal migrants and illegal
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drugs, Trump is going to slap a 25 percent tariff on all our exports to the states that
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It's my belief that Trump doesn't actually want to do that.
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He's not making demands that are unreasonable either for him as an American leader or frankly
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The analogy, I've been trying to think of this analogy in my mind.
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I think it would be like a neighbor who doesn't have a high fence saying, your dog is dangerous.
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Can you please stop your dog from attacking everything or I'm going to have to put a fence
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Obviously, good fences make good neighbors and it's in his right to build a fence.
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But shouldn't you take care of your dangerous dog anyways?
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My point is what Trump is asking Canada to do is something that we should do in our own
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Crack down on illegal immigration and illegal drugs.
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Anyways, here's my conversation with the Premier a little bit earlier.
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I haven't talked to you since you won more than 91% from the party faithful at your recent
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Give us just one minute on that and then I want to go to the news of the day.
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Well, look, you never know with conservative parties.
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They like to sometimes send a message to their leader and they can, we have a lot of different
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But I think generally speaking, they're pretty happy with the direction that we're going.
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And so I take that as a vote of confidence, but I never want to take the support for granted.
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I think there were more than 6,000 people at that convention.
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That's got to be one of the largest conventions in recent Canadian history.
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One of the things that I think people support is that you are willing to take on Ottawa and
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Justin Trudeau and his extremist cabinet ministers like Stephen Gilbeau.
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I want to talk to you about Donald Trump because he has said to Mexico and Canada, if you don't
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stop your open borders and illegal migration and illegal drugs, we will slap you with a
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Tell me what you're going to do because I saw a press release.
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Alberta will be acting urgently and decisively to patrol our own shared border with Montana.
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More details to be announced soon in that regard.
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So I won't press you on the details for how that'll happen.
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In my mind, I see cowboys and ranchers, you know, with lassoes.
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I'm sure it'll be something different than that.
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But just to say Alberta is going to take this issue seriously is very interesting because
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you're really filling the void left by Justin Trudeau and Melanie Jolie.
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Let me start by saying I believe Donald Trump when he says what he says about what his concerns
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He's really concerned about China using Canada or Mexico as a conduit to bring cheap goods
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He's concerned about the fact that we haven't met our 2% NATO commitment to support national
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And more recently, he's concerned about the cross-border problem of not only illegal migrants,
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And so it seems to me that the smartest move would be to say, yes, we agree we've got to
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address this issue and to start putting some meaningful resources on the border to make that
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And what we have said is we're happy to work with our provincial counterparts and our federal
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We've been using drone technology to fight fires up in northern Alberta mostly.
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We can use drone technology as well to be able to monitor that border.
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And we're prepared to deploy the resources that we need to give the Americans and to give our
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own people some comfort that we are addressing this issue in a serious way.
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Alberta is responsible actually on a dollar basis for the lion's share of trade with America.
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Saskatchewan and B.C. have a part to play there too.
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It would be devastating and economically bizarre to have a 25 percent tariff on oil.
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So I think that Americans, especially in the incoming president's office, would be delighted
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Have you had even some informal feedback from the transition team?
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Because I know Joe Biden's still the titular president.
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But have you had anyone say, look, it's just on an informal basis.
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We want to get Alberta's exports tariff-free too.
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We've been reaching out to all of our contacts.
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As you know, we've had an office in Washington as a province since about 2005.
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And the reason for that is that we believe we are the ones to tell our own story.
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As you know, resources are the jurisdiction of the provinces.
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And so we think it's incumbent upon us for us to be able to tell our American friends
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just how great a friend and ally and supplier of oil and gas that Alberta is.
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I think somebody recently sent me a note saying that if they did slap that kind of tariff on it,
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it would increase gasoline prices by $1.50 a gallon in the United States.
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At the same time that we know that the Trump administration wants to bring those prices down.
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So we think we've got a really good story to tell.
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And we'll be reaching out to all of the contacts that we have to be able to tell that story.
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I'm especially pleased that last week, a governor's council on energy security invited Alberta to be a part of it.
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So I'll be joining that committee along with 12 other governors to be able to push that message forward
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that we are here, we are a friend and ally, and we are the solution, I think,
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to a lot of the energy security and energy affordability problems in the U.S.
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So I'm looking forward to continue to bring that message forward.
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You know, Justin Trudeau's front bench has all disparaged Trump in personal snipes.
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Trudeau himself, Jolie, Chrystia Freeland, I think they've all sort of burnt the bridges.
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They never thought Trump would be re-elected, so they let their mouths yap a little bit.
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I hope that you can fill the void as a good faith interlocutor,
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even though that's not constitutionally your role, it would be sort of unusual for a province to take the lead.
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I just think that, I don't think Trump has a lot of time for the people who he would normally deal with.
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Trump put Mexico and Canada in the same press release, which is sort of something.
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And in one phone call, the new president of Mexico basically said,
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And Trump had an effusive tweet praising her afterwards.
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What can we learn from how Mexico is handling Trump?
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I have no doubt that the president of Mexico doesn't personally like Trump.
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They're ideologically miles apart, but she's being a grown-up about it.
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What does it look like for Canadian leaders to be a grown-up with dealing with Trump?
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Tell me what you plan to do, the language you plan to use, the tools you plan to use,
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I think it would have been very easy for Justin Trudeau in that first call to have that exact same outcome.
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And I'm not quite sure why they didn't get around to talking about the issues that Donald Trump has raised.
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But I can tell you all the premiers, when we had our joint meeting with the prime minister,
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made it very clear that we believe he's serious,
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and we believe that if we do not act on the issues he's raised,
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that we will see 25% tariffs by the time we get to January the 20th.
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And I think he's been very clear about what he wants us to do.
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And if the solution is to let him know, just as the Mexican president has, that this is serious,
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they'll be addressing the issue of both migrants as well as crime, then why wouldn't we do that?
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We've been talking about that, as has Quebec, about the concern that we have about illegal migration
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The expiring work permits, I think there's 4.9 million of them,
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and the federal government doesn't seem to have a plan for what's going to happen when that expires.
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That's got to be causing some nervousness for people, not only here but also in the United States.
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We also know that we've been fighting a drug war for the last number of years
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We've got a record high level of opioid deaths as a result of overdose and fentanyl,
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And so it should be incumbent upon us to work with our federal counterparts to stop that problem,
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So I look at it this way, is that we need to address the trade irritants,
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these kind of things, before we can get on to talking about the genuine trade issues.
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And so that's what I'm going to be putting forward, is if we can demonstrate as a province
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that we're prepared to give secure borders on the part that we're responsible for,
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which borders Montana, then I think we can begin the conversation about what else can we do
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to be able to maintain our ties on energy security.
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I think it's important for the other provinces to do.
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And I sure hope that Justin Trudeau very soon comes up with a border security strategy
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I think it's pretty amazing that you have taken this initiative
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to deal with a real public policy problem that Trudeau won't.
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I know you've got to run, but I'm so grateful that you popped on to Rebel News to give us this update.
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Routine Dean writes about the U.S. threat of tariffs and says,
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we should want this anyway without any threat of tariffs.
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It's like a neighbor saying, gee, you haven't mowed your lawn in months,
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Please mow your lawn, or I'm going to put up a fence between our properties.
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I mean, first of all, it's not that unreasonable for your neighbor to say,
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but by the way, you should mow your own lawn for your own dignity.
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World Gone Crazy says, congratulations to Donald Trump
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to be the first person in Justin Trudeau's miserable existence to spank him
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and I don't like to see people walking all over our country.
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And Trump is spanking Trudeau, and he's saying, do this,
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But I'm also smart enough to see that this is not actually a real threat,
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or at least it's a real threat, but the spanking is not the desired outcome.
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He just knows Trudeau needs a little boot in the behind
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because nothing else has motivated him to do the right thing.
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Isn't it funny that Trump, besides saving America, will help save Canada?
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Tammy Mee says Trudeau's plan is to destroy Canada from within.
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His lack of action on illegal immigration is hence intentional,
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but soon he will have a big problem with President Trump
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because everything that happens in Canada affects the states and vice versa.
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I mean, there's not that many cars made in Canada anymore.
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And really, the parts cross back and forth across that Ambassador Bridge.
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Like an automobile is made in both Detroit and Windsor in many cases.
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You slap a 25% tariff on stuff coming from Canada.
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You know, digital media, creative arts, movies, TV.
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I'm just, I mean, you can list literally anything.
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God forbid they put a tariff on Canadian energy.
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I don't think they would do that to themselves.
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I don't actually think it's a threat that will ever be carried out because I think it'll
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And if there are any grownups in the Liberal Party, they'll say, we are going to solve this
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because we can't even risk going down that road.
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I don't think Trump plans to go down that road because I think he is a sophisticated and
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experienced enough negotiator that he knows how to get what he wants without the or else.
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He just needs to say the or else to scare a weak negotiator like Trudeau into line.
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But so far, Donald Trump's sole interaction with Canada, apparently he had a phone call
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Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters to you at home,