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00:30:06.120But he had an interesting story today. The headline is, Ottawa has no idea how many temporary migrants are still here. While Canada has asked millions of migrants to leave, there's no way to track whether they're doing so.
00:30:19.400Here's an exchange in Parliament between Conservative Senator Costas Madagakis and Lina Diab, just absolutely priceless. Take a quick look.
00:30:30.080Admittedly, the Auditor General Report found big-time problems in screening within your department.
00:30:35.500So we've talked a little bit this morning about the 153,000 flagged applications.
00:30:40.560How many in those had ties to terrorist organizations like the IRGC?
00:31:16.340And of the 22%, work is ongoing to determine how many have left the country.
00:31:22.940Yeah, it's a little hard to believe that on March 23rd,
00:31:26.380The auditor general found 153,000 people, and then, boom, magically, within a month or so, you know, the problem seems to have been resolved on your end.
00:31:35.400Still, there are 21,420 people that you're looking into, and there's concern about people being in our communities.
00:33:24.160just in um am i missing something is that really good news that they're working towards it i mean
00:33:29.020i suppose it is i guess acknowledging that uh yeah something is a problem but it's sort of like
00:33:35.760uh you know if your your crappy boyfriend says he's working on his problems uh that doesn't mean
00:33:41.420he's actually going to fix those problems he's working on them well you know there's a saying0.53
00:33:46.580that you hear sometimes that's not a bug that's a feature which means this problem that you're
00:33:52.400talking about it's actually not considered a problem it's the whole point of things and i
00:33:58.060would put it to you that our excessively incredibly libertine immigration system that's not an accident
00:34:07.080that's on purpose so it's working as planned i mean there's a there's a saying in computer science
00:34:13.420of the purpose of a system is what it does so if you want to know what is the purpose of our
00:34:18.220immigration system. It brings in maximum people with minimum scrutiny. That is what it does.
00:34:24.940That is its purpose. And anything that Lena Diab says, that's actually the anomaly. I mean,
00:34:31.340I think that they want to bring in absolute masses of people for economic reasons. You know,
00:34:38.000this is that century club idea of 100 million people. If you're the banks, you love it. If
00:34:44.560you're a cell phone company you love it if you're a landlord you love it um if you're a an employer
00:34:50.540you love driving down wages there are a lot of people who love maximum population migration i
00:34:56.660think that's the purpose of it uh i mean there is uh there's definitely a pattern i've seen uh
00:35:02.920certain areas of the government in which uh you'll have sort of a conspicuous lack of data on something
00:35:09.160that the government wants to do i mean the classic example i can think of is is harm reduction so
00:35:13.460when you you're opening sort of safe injection sites um the usual scientific rigor you would
00:35:18.580apply to such experiments if you were legitimately trying to see if they were having a net good is
00:35:22.640you would do long-term five ten-year studies of you know the overall health of the community
00:35:26.740instead you had very limited you know within six months here's what happens to uh you know crime
00:35:32.760within the several blocks around the safe injection site so it's it's so limited it's so patchy
00:35:39.280It's almost you're intentionally trying to avoid the bigger picture.
00:35:43.000In this case, I mean, there's lots of areas in which the government actually has been transparent about figures on migration that, you know, if your theory was to hold, they wouldn't want those figures coming out.
00:35:55.900There was actually pretty good numbers on when we had just thousands of illegal border crossers starting in 2017 crossing over the border.
00:36:03.040We actually had, you know, per up to the person, pretty regular updates on how many of those were coming in.
00:36:09.600So on this particular metric, I would be more inclined to say it's one of those many things within the Canadian system because Lena Diab was saying, well, you know, there's never been a way to track who is actually leaving.
00:36:22.060You know, all the way back to 1867, there hasn't been a system like this.
00:36:26.000So I think that just speaks to there's a lot of things in the Canadian system that we didn't need to have this kind of rigor simply because it hadn't been stress tested to this point.
00:36:36.520There's never been a prior example in Canadian history of you just bring in one to two million temporary migrants within the space of a few months and you expect them all to just voluntarily leave because you asked them politely and you didn't screen them when they came in.
00:36:50.480You have no idea who any of these people are. So you have a system that worked for the first 150 years. But then when you have, hey, you million and a half people we didn't screen and many, some of you came in here under false pretenses. Can you please leave? And we'll just assume you did. That worked under the prior system. But now, you know, we're discovering it may be lacking.0.67
00:37:10.520you know um over the last 11 years they've pretty much phased out any meetings any appointments with
00:37:17.660a human being to immigrate to canada it's all just done online i mean um even your citizenship
00:37:23.320ceremony is is remote if if you're even yeah i mean and that's that's just the icing on the cake
00:37:28.740but a a foreign national does not have to actually meet with a canadian in an embassy or a consulate
00:37:34.660it's just like going on a Facebook page or something and and I think that all of these
00:37:40.780things taken together they all point one way reduce barriers to entry but if you're not even0.97
00:37:46.000having a person look at uh it would be migrant when they come in of course they're not looking
00:37:53.500to kick them out I mean it's sort of obvious what the the point of the system is if you were to
00:37:59.540acknowledge that there were a problem if you were to count if you were to say well we actually know
00:38:04.640know how many people are here that shouldn't be then you might actually have to do something if
00:38:09.320you acknowledge the problem that's why you see no evil and hear no evil because if you did
00:38:13.900you you know it's like the saying for a criminal accused do not tell your lawyer you're guilty
00:38:20.000um don't give it away i think that they're deliberately not acknowledging a problem so
00:38:25.360they don't have to deal with it yeah i mean the state of the immigration department right now is
00:38:30.660absolutely everything is on fire uh you know asylum seekers is on fire screening of temporary
00:38:37.400migrants is on fire um all of the things they were supposed to be doing they've all collapsed1.00
00:38:43.600and they're all kind of a disaster uh so even if lena dia was was approaching this with completely1.00
00:38:49.360good intentions and she actually wanted to rein things in and bring it back to the sustainable
00:38:53.220immigration system we used to have uh you could even under you could even sympathize with uh okay
00:38:59.040you know we're gonna open this door and that's just gonna be a backdraft and fire so maybe we'll
00:39:03.840just wait to deal with all these other fires first um i've asked this question to uh the
00:39:11.520conservative party's immigration critic and i was sort of surprised with the fortitude of her answer
00:39:17.080i said would you support mass deportations because it's more than a million people whose
00:39:23.900tenure here has expired either students or temporary workers or they're here in some other
00:39:28.920way um like that would be a lot of planes getting filled up and flying back to countries far away
00:39:36.980if you were going to enforce the law it would be an enormous challenge we can see how big a
00:39:42.180challenge it is in the united states when you have a fully funded and aggressively supported
00:39:46.880ice i mean america has barely deported a million people it's called nice now yeah that's good which
00:39:53.140is hilarious um so even the cons i mean the conservatives are very timidly saying yeah i
00:39:58.880guess i guess that's the logical conclusion it's because it's not tremendously controversial so
00:40:03.980post media uh we we commissioned a poll two years ago so 2024 and it's been a long two years so
00:40:10.260immigration sentiments among the canadian population were not nearly as radicalized uh
00:40:16.400you know then as as they are now and even then we had a poll i think it was it was either a
00:40:20.980huge plurality or a majority of canadians when asked point blank would you favor mass deportations
00:40:26.420uh they said yes so if i think that's why the conservative party is taking this on because
00:40:32.500although you can look at poll numbers you can look at outside support for the liberal party
00:40:36.500uh you can think that you are surrounded by canadians who have lost touch with reality and
00:40:42.500they don't see the things you do a lot sometimes on these specific issues uh you'll find very
00:40:47.880radical sentiments even not radical sentiments but on mass deportation specifically um i think
00:40:53.560the average canadian they're looking at day after day after day just reporting about things that0.89
00:40:58.600didn't used to happen you know an entire uh city in you know surrey taken over by punjabi gangsters0.79
00:41:04.420uh constant court cases in which uh someone has come from another country immediately starts0.99
00:41:10.220breaking the law scamming the system and they're kept in the judge decides they they cannot be
00:41:14.640deported. So I think your average Canadian, regardless of their political affiliation,
00:41:19.980sees that and determines that some sort of action needs to be taken about it. So when
00:41:24.380you see that majority of Canadians saying we need some sort of mass deportations,
00:41:28.980I don't know what that looks like. But people like the idea of a plane filled with foreign1.00
00:41:35.300criminals who are not respecting the system, not being here anymore. And I think that's how the U.S.0.98
00:41:40.800try to start it go after the absolute worst cases that have no personal sympathy go after
00:41:46.240the criminals go after the people who committed horrific offenses um and i think the timidness
00:41:52.780is because it's we have this strange dynamic in canada i think i think the majority we're i think
00:41:58.700we're still among the most pro-immigration countries on earth uh but that's balanced with
00:42:03.620if you are pro-immigration and you like the idea of people coming from all over the world0.88
00:42:07.740you're almost more pissed off than the average at abuses of the immigration system so that's sort0.94
00:42:14.160of the dynamic i see my inbox personally if if it's an you know conspicuously african or indian
00:42:19.060name it's always something about how my immigration's out of control and then it's a bunch of
00:42:23.320white people calling me racist um so it's a very unique immigration dynamic we have in canada0.97
00:42:28.620versus say like european country which is just like you know get rid of all the immigrants
00:42:32.080ours is a bit more nuanced you know in the united kingdom the head of the point person on this stuff
00:42:38.820in in the most anti-immigration party that's got a chance it's called reform uk it's nigel farage's
00:42:45.800party his name is zia yusuf and he's a he's a muslim man if i'm not mistaken originally from
00:42:52.600pakistan and i think he needs that bulletproofiness for him to say mass deportations and they just
00:42:59.600announced a policy i don't know if they would ever implement it where they're going to have
00:43:03.140detention centers of migrants and they're going to put those centers in the districts that vote
00:43:08.300green that vote for you know uh yeah yeah sanctuary cities but but going back to mass deportations i
00:43:15.780mean when you're thinking you know who do you want to mass deport uh there was that figure just a
00:43:19.480couple years ago uh when you had several thousand foreign students they'd come here as foreign
00:43:25.880students studied and as their permits came to an end they applied for asylum uh so we've just had
00:43:30.500these really egregious obviously fake asylum claims and given the metrics in the asylum system
00:43:35.660you know chances are likely they will get some sort of permanent status so uh i struggle to think
00:43:42.620of anybody who would look at those specific asylum claims and not say oh just get out get out of
00:43:47.460country uh i mean you'll even see that among the liberal party going all the way back to 2018 i
00:43:52.960I mean, you had has his name. He was like five, five immigration ministers ago.
00:43:59.120But at the time he was publicly saying with the illegal border crossers, you know, Nigerians are scamming us.1.00
00:44:04.020We know we have to we have to stop this. So it's very strange how often you will see the very people overseeing these broken systems will occasionally admit how broken it is in a public forum.1.00
00:44:16.980Yeah, accidentally, maybe. Hey, I got a last question for you. In the system, we have an auditor general that's generally focused on accounting, corruption, fraud, waste. But they also track effectiveness. The best auditor general reports go beyond just money and say, look, we did not achieve our policy objectives here. And here's why.
00:44:39.420In the States, they have a similar thing. I think they generally call them inspector generals, and they seem very aggressive down there. Has there been, as far as you know, that sort of independent audit of what's going on? Because it sounds like the minister-
00:44:54.420Well, I mean, that clip you played earlier from the House of Commons Committee, all the proceedings of that particular committee were involving a March report by the Auditor General looking into, and so the Auditor General did very much what an investigative journalist would do, said, okay, you know, everything's on fire.
00:45:14.100We're just going to pick one very specific part of the immigration system, and then we're going to see if people are doing their job.
00:45:19.280So they picked two years of student visas, and we're going to look at how many of these were flagged as being potentially non-compliant, how many of these were flagged as being fraudulent, and how many of those, that subset, was actually investigated by the department.
00:45:34.600And you probably covered this back when the report came out in March, but they found that basically no investigation is being done.
00:45:40.200So they said, according to internal data, 153,000 foreign students during that two year period were flagged as being potentially noncompliant.
00:45:50.800So they agreed to come to students. They're not showing up to classes. They're not reporting to their visa, whatever the terms were, they weren't being followed.
00:45:57.300And they said, well, how many of those 153,000 did you investigate? And they said, 4,000. We only had funding for 4,000.
00:46:02.980So, OK, 149,000 just got off scot-free. And then they said, well, how did those 4,000 investigations go?
00:46:09.920And they said, well, half of them we couldn't do because they just didn't call us back. We we called them and asked them if they're, hey, are you breaking the law and staying in the country illegally? And they didn't get back to us. So we couldn't we couldn't. So I mean, that that is a very good example of the Auditor General taking just one small part and finding just shocking dysfunction.
00:46:28.920dysfunction and there's no reason to think and every time you see some some close examination
00:46:35.160of one section you know actually are you doing any sort of immigration screening that wasn't
00:46:39.880an investigation that was a that was a report by a former ircc official i think it was published in
00:46:44.920hub or by the mcdonald laurie institute but every time you find some new aspect of the immigration
00:46:51.400system and you would you know are you doing any screening you know what what is actually happening
00:46:56.280to asylum seekers um i mean the dysfunction is way higher than even i imagined in my in my worst
00:47:03.500nightmares and that just keeps happening so there is a role yeah for inspector general etc looking0.95
00:47:09.840well i did i didn't actually read that auditor general's report a couple months ago and maybe
00:47:14.540someone else on our team covered it but you have certainly piqued my interest and i'm glad that
00:47:18.700there is an auditor general who is at least sampling some of the work of this department
00:47:29.680You can see that the government doesn't perhaps want the scrutiny they voted the other day to turn cameras off in one of the committee meetings.
00:47:36.320So I think there's a battle on to tell the truth.
00:47:38.540Tristan Hopper, great to have you on the show.
00:47:41.900And I would like to recommend to everyone here, even if you're a skeptic of the mainstream media, which I certainly am, I do recommend First Reading.
00:47:49.040That's Tristan's regular feature in post media.
00:48:22.580My spouse mused that Carney always manages to pick people who are totally unsuitable for their appointments.
00:48:27.680I responded that suitability was not his criterion.
00:48:30.180Instead, he chose those who would do his bidding, promote elitism, and not be above a good palm greasing if they were faced with any moral conundrums in the exercise of his wishes.
00:48:41.660You know, there was this incredible clip where she was asked if she's a monarchist.
00:48:46.280And she basically says, nah, but I like the perks and the prestige.
00:48:49.940you should take a look at this video. Yeah, am I a monarchy? Well, I started by saying that
00:48:54.380this term is unfortunately very often used in a pejorative way. What I can say is that
00:49:03.700I will accede to a function in which I will be the representative of the crown
00:49:09.320in a constitutional arrangement that I think has served Canada extremely well throughout our
00:49:15.700history, but even more in recent decades, I think a system that will continue to provide
00:49:22.840continuity in our institutions and our form of government. Marilyn Haley says, liberal appointed
00:49:29.340governor general, liberal appointed senators, liberal appointed RCMP, liberal appointed Chinese
00:49:33.880police stations, liberal appointed judges. Yep, Canada is done. Rest in peace. I tell you one
00:49:38.960thing, the past is a different country, isn't it, the case? And our media has been colonized and
00:49:45.120house-trained, so they're not squawking. A few are, but 99% of journalists are just
00:49:50.860stenographers asking for their next bailout.
00:49:55.640Jerwin Tiberius says, can we just kick out the remnants of the British Empire and be a free,
00:50:00.920independent, and sovereign nation like the U.S.? You know, I hear what you're saying. I mean,
00:50:05.540there's some people who say, well, the Governor General's whole office and that whole position
00:50:09.480is a relic of the past well listen something is going to be uh in power nature abhors a vacuum
00:50:18.140in the states they have a very regal presidency don't they i mean look at the air force one and
00:50:24.540the and the presidential uh you know the entourage and the white house and everything and i'm not
00:50:31.020criticizing i'm just saying something needs to fill that role of pomp and circumstance donald
00:50:36.360trump is putting his face on the passport putting a signature on the money so something or someone
00:50:42.740will always fill those positions of prestige and authority having the king fill that role and the
00:50:48.980governor general and having some modesty some non-partisanship some sense of reserve i think
00:50:57.440displaces a presidential uh over overreach and one of the problems is mark carney is putting into
00:51:05.300place just like trudeau did before him partisan troublemakers instead of dutiful servants of the
00:51:13.360king i am a monarchist because if you don't have that family that goes back century with their
00:51:21.520sense of duty and reserve you're going to have something else fill that void and i'd much rather
00:51:26.280have the king and a governor general than an all-powerful president so to me it's the lesser
00:51:31.940of two evils who can we have there that's not going to get too big for the britches ironically
00:51:36.000a royal king is probably less ostentatious than what would replace it in canada let me know if
00:51:43.980you disagree that's the show for today until tomorrow on behalf of all of us here at rebel
00:51:49.880world headquarters to you at home good night and keep fighting for freedom