FACT CHECKING the UK media's lies about Tommy Robinson's appeal
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I'm back in Canada after attending Tommy Robinson's court date in London, and I've got a report for you about why he should not be in jail. I was away for most of last week in London attending the legal appeal made by Tommy Robinson s lawyers, and here's a bit about that.
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Tonight, I'm back in Canada after attending Tommy Robinson's court date in London.
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I've got a report for you. It's July 23rd, and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
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I was away for most of last week. I was in London attending the legal appeal made by Tommy Robinson's lawyers.
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I'd like to tell you a bit about that. I'm sure you know, but just in case you don't,
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here's a minute on why Tommy is in jail in the first place.
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Tommy was arrested two months ago for reporting outside the trial of a 29-person Muslim rape gang
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accused of systematically and repeatedly raping young indigenous British girls as young as 11 years old.
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Tommy was swarmed by seven police who packed him into a police van,
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and within hours he was charged, convicted, sentenced, and sent off to prison with a 13-month term.
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The actual time it took to have his trial was about 15 minutes.
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And if you recall, the judge who did all that to Tommy originally put a publication ban over everything he did.
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Sorry, but how is that different from how turbulent reporters are handled in Venezuela or Russia?
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Now, I've been doing some cursory research into contempt of court cases in the UK.
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I can't find any journalist who has been sent to prison for contempt of court since 1949.
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And 13 months in prison? As you know, Tommy's confined to his own self for his own safety.
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Most British prisons are dominated by Muslim criminal gangs.
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They'd kill Tommy in a moment to be heroes, to get their 72 virgins, whatever.
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It's not really speculation. Last time Tommy was in prison, he was attacked, in fact, by just such a gang.
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So he's done two months in solitary conditions, let out just 30 minutes a day, timed by the jail so he can't even connect with his kids.
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Anyways, Tommy left the rebel to go independent a few months back, so we weren't in a position to make decisions for him,
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unlike a year earlier when he was arrested for the same thing in Canterbury.
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Back then, we immediately hired a top law firm, went to battle for him.
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As his employer, I didn't need to consult with anyone before hiring lawyers and crowdfunding to pay them
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and taking the most aggressive legal strategy we could do.
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This time, though, I have no legal standing. He doesn't work for us anymore.
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Any lawyers he has owe their allegiance only to him.
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So it took me a few weeks to meddle to make some gentle suggestions to Tommy's family
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And nearly a month had passed, but Tommy and his family decided to file an appeal, thank God,
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and to crowdfund some top lawyers and to let us do the crowdfunding.
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On Wednesday, at the Royal Courts of Justice in London,
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now I posted eight videos while I was over there.
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If you haven't seen them yet, please go to TommyTrial.com.
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And in addition, I sat in the courtroom during the appeal.
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I've flown to the U.K. a half dozen times in the past year or so to visit Tommy when he was working for us.
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And finally, to say goodbye to him when he left to go independent.
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In fact, I went there so often, they literally suggested to me that I register as a trusted traveler
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so I could speed through without any paperwork at Heathrow.
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And by the way, I'm also a registered Nexus traveler in North America,
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which means I can skip the long lines because I've submitted to a police background check.
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I'm just telling you this to let you know that I've never had any trouble at any border ever.
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See, in recent months, more and more of Tommy Robinson's friends who went to visit him in the U.K.
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were detained at the border and permanently banned from entering the U.K.
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Our former reporter Lauren Southern, her friend here, Brittany Pettibone,
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and her boyfriend, Martin Sellner, all three of them are being banned.
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And a few years back, Tommy Robinson's friends, Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch,
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who's on our show regularly, and the fabulous Pamela Geller,
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all five of these friends of Tommy have been banned forever from the United Kingdom
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There are at least 23,000 jihadis roaming the streets of the United Kingdom, by the way.
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But apparently five of Tommy Robinson's friends are banned for having conservative views.
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So I thought, look, I've been a public face of Tommy's crowdfunding for about a month.
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I'd better go a day early just in case I'm given a hassle, too.
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And I even retained a U.K. law firm in advance just in case I was stopped at the border.
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Now, in the end, I was not stopped, but I was ready in case I was.
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Would you agree with me that it was wise to go a day early,
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given the five other friends who were stopped, just to be careful?
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Anyways, the morning of the trial, I went to the court two hours early also.
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I didn't want to have come all that way and not have a seat in court.
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Now, on my way over, I got talking to my cabbie, a driver in one of those old-fashioned black taxi cabs.
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I think every single taxi cab driver in the U.K. loves Tommy, at least the ones who drive those black cabs.
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Because when I told this cabbie what I was doing in town, he literally refused to take my cab fare.
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Now, it was only five pounds. It was a short drive.
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But still, he said it was his contribution to the cause.
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People in the U.K. have been following Tommy's case very closely.
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He's been getting huge support at public rallies.
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And you can imagine, for every person who shows up at a demo, probably another hundred, follow it online.
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Anyways, so I got to the courthouse, finally, on Wednesday morning, two hours early.
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And other people were there, too. Two hours early.
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Others were dressed in normal civilian clothes.
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He's a Royal Air Force vet, wearing an impressive array of medals, wouldn't you say.
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There were supporters there from every background.
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Anyway, the pro-Tommy protesters stayed there all day.
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I didn't see any anti-Tommy protesters, by the way.
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And wouldn't you know it, by coincidence, in the exact same courtroom where Tommy's appeal was going to be heard,
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an hour earlier, 9.30 a.m., the new attorney general for the United Kingdom was being sworn in.
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And afterwards, when everyone was shaking the new attorney general's head,
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I asked him about the news report that a U.S. diplomat, a Trump ambassador, as they call it in this story here,
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had raised concerns with the U.K. government about Tommy's treatment in this case.
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So I asked Jeffrey Cox, what did he have to say about that?
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I was pretty excited to put that question right there in the court.
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He said he had been too busy preparing for his new job as attorney general,
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so he didn't read that and he didn't know about it and hadn't been briefed on it.
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I enjoyed the fact that I got to ask the top dog that question mere minutes after he was sworn in,
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And then the hearing got started in an exquisitely ornate room, more than a century old.
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The Royal Courts of Justice is a Victorian era building.
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There were three judges led by this fellow, the Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales,
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and I got to say he was an excellent judge, very fair-minded, very attentive, very smart.
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Tommy had four lawyers, actually, two main lawyers, a barrister and a solicitor,
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That's the way to do it in such an important case.
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It really is the most prominent case in the United Kingdom today.
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The other side was not represented by a prosecutor, but rather by a delegate.
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From the Attorney General's office, not styled as a prosecutor, but rather a friend of the court,
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to provide expert advice to the court on the technicalities of the obscure law of contempt.
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He was sometimes hostile to Tommy Robinson, but sometimes he granted Tommy's lawyers some points.
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Anyways, before the trial got underway, I asked a clerk of the court to check with a judge whether or not I could use my laptop in the court to tweet my comments live.
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I sat right beside Tommy's solicitor, John Carson, and I typed as fast as I could for the appeal.
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Can you see these tweets on the screen behind me?
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I did my best to hear everything, even though, unlike Canadian and U.S. courts,
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we weren't given access to the filed legal briefs submitted by the lawyers.
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Nonetheless, I think I managed to give the gist of what was going on.
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And according to my Twitter analytics, I wrote more than 150 tweets from court that were seen 5.7 million times in 12 hours.
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So many people in the United Kingdom and around the world want to know the facts, and they didn't trust the other media.
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There were about a half dozen other media in the court, but their hatred for Tommy eclipses their love of the facts and the news.
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I'm not saying that being negative about Tommy is a lie.
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I'm saying these other journalists just told factual untruths, fake news.
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Here's the political correspondent for the Guardian newspaper.
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You can also see that he's a bicycling activist, which tells you 90% of what you need to know about him.
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Note for some of those tweeting about Tommy Robinson appeal.
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There are some temporary reporting restrictions.
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These are usually there to avoid other trials being jeopardized.
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But in fact, Tommy's conviction had, in fact, been subject to a publication ban, a total publication ban for days.
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That's why people would have called it secret, because it was.
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And there was, in fact, a partial reporting ban on the appeal on Wednesday, too.
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So any Tommy fans who said that, they're right.
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He said, he's only appealing against a sentence.
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Well, actually, yeah, that was the original plan.
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But as Tommy's lawyers learned more about his treatment in court that day in Leeds,
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they learned that the way he was treated violated so many rules of criminal procedure.
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The judge who convicted Tommy in Leeds made so many mistakes, not just in the 13-month sentence,
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but in the rest of it, too, that Tommy's lawyers decided to appeal the conviction itself.
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And this was obvious and evident within the first 10 minutes of court.
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I mean, it was probably, what, 80%, 90% of what was discussed in the appeal for hours.
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But look at this Guardian political editor telling the little people,
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He's not appealing the conviction itself, dummy.
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And this Guardian political editor, this snobby, sneering toff,
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was just telling people fake news and trying to embarrass them for being idiots.
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When all of these working class Tommy supporters pointed out to his highness from the Guardian
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that he's wrong, well, he finally, grudgingly admitted it.
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It seems, embarrassingly, I was wrong on the second point.
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A court listing and earlier Wire story said it was just appeal against sentence,
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but hearing covered both this and the conviction?
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Apologies to anyone I've contradicted over this.
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I don't know why I'm doing a Valley Girl accent for a British snob.
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Thanks for the apology, mate, but how could you get such a central fact so wrong
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and be so confident about it that you attacked those who got it right, called them fools?
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All credit, I'm not even going to try an accent.
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All credit for Mr. LeVant for reporting from court.
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But I've just looked at the website he works for,
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So this Guardian political editor who was writing about the appeal,
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I got to court two hours early in the morning to make sure I got a seat.
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Was it really that hard to come all the way down from the Guardian's office to the courts?
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But he still wanted to tweet about the appeal as if he had made that tiny effort.
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But, hey guys, he finds the rebel a bit unsavory.
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And we have to take his word for it that he actually read our website
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because he just exposed himself for writing about an appeal to which he did not attend.
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Do you see why it was important that I attended the court in person?
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If the Guardian editor would lie about something so easily checkable like that,
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Here's another example from Channel 4, a major British broadcaster.
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So this is just some guy, Adrian Shorty, just some guy, random person.
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And there's no possibility of overturning the conviction as he isn't even appealing that.
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Again, that's just false in a whole bunch of ways.
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But that tweet, right underneath it, let's show it here.
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He's the chief video producer for Channel 4 News.
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And that's good enough research for Channel 4 that liked that false tweet.
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And that tweet is liked by the chief video producer of Channel 4 News.
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Just to remind you, Channel 4 is the clown show that had Kathy Newman take a run at Jordan Peterson.
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Again and again, falsely trying to put words in his mouth.
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Right, so you're saying you've done your research and women are unhappy dominating men.
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If you haven't watched that whole video, you got to.
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Anyways, so you can see that Channel 4 is still in the fake news business.
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They weren't even at court and they were making stuff up about court.
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The BBC, their state broadcaster over there, did a long piece on who are these Tommy Robinson supporters.
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It was like they were sending someone from National Geographic to the deepest, darkest Amazon to report on an obscure try or something.
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They mocked Tommy's people a lot, the usual, like our own CBC, except they really had the class snobbery at the BBC down pat.
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But there are two clips I want to show you from this BBC mini documentary.
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The first, this BBC anthropologist goes to a pro-Tommy, pro-Donald Trump march just the other week.
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And I don't know if you recall, but some anti-Trump leftists had this rather small blimp, they called it.
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It was really just a big balloon of the size of a bouncy castle of Donald Trump as a baby.
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I guess that's really some powerful way to speak truth to power or something.
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So this balloon, it was a media sensation and the mayor of London, Sadik Khan, personally approved it being held aloft.
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So some pro-Trump people at this Tommy Robinson rally, they took a little Peppa pig balloon.
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Peppa Pig is a cartoon in the UK, and they just glued a picture of Sadik Khan to it.
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Peaceful rally for Tommy, Trafalgar Square, just a kid's balloon with Sadik Khan on it.
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And the police, on horseback, charged the person holding the balloon and those all around.
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I know you don't believe me, so watch with your own eyes.
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It's clearly a response to the baby blimp flown by the anti-Trump protesters the previous day.
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But the police decide that Peppa Pig crosses a line.
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As officers try to remove the offending balloon, bottles are thrown.
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So you have a balloon with a pig, and the mayor is glued to it.
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Because Sadik Khan is the mayor, or because it's a pig, and that's not halal, or whatever
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And it's just okay for the police to charge families.
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And the BBC finds that really uncontroversial, and maybe even laudatory.
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And this same BBC anthropologist going deep into the heart of working class Britain, he
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And why does she think that Muslims rape young girls?
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So he tries to humiliate her for a full minute.
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And to the BBC, this video footage of the humiliation was gold.
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I've heard that Muslims believe that they can have sex with children.
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I believe that in their country, they're allowed to have sex with children.
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I've been all over the Middle East and North Africa.
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Why are we being shown in this country that it is true, then?
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I don't know, but who are you being told this one?
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I believe what I read unless it's proven to be not true.
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I'm just wondering where you get this idea from.
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From what people, for instance, this rally, last month, we were told what Sharia law is.
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I'm from the government, I'm from the media, I'm from the government media, and I'm here to tell you what to think.
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Well, the thing is, it is happening every single day in the United Kingdom.
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Forget about in the Koran, where historically, Muhammad took a six-year-old girl, Aisha, as his bride,
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and consummated that marriage when she was nine.
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Forget about different times and different places.
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In the United Kingdom, now, tens of thousands of white British girls are being raped by Muslim rape gangs.
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It's what Tommy was arrested for reporting about in Canterbury last year.
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It's what Tommy was arrested for reporting about in Leeds this year.
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It's happening all around the United Kingdom, all the time.
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There have been countless convictions and countless more charges to come.
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And the BBC is saying, no, no, no, no, no, you're just wrong.
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I would know I'm with the BBC. Take it from me.
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I bet he got a raise for humiliating her that way.
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My friends, do you see why I went to London last week?
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You just can't trust a word the mainstream media says.
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Well, you know that there has been a shantytown, an illegal campout in Burnaby for months protesting against the expansion of Kinder Morgan's Trans Mountain Pipeline.
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It's really an echo of the Occupy Wall Street squalor that we've seen in New York, of course, Occupy Wall Street.
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But we've seen it across Canada, Occupy Toronto and other places.
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Illegal, unhygienic, rampant with drug crime and even sex crimes.
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And of course, all of it is in violation of municipal bylaws.
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You simply can't build structures or even camp out in your camper as a protest.
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It's not just these trivial or minor or petty offenses, though.
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Many people in these protests physically attack police.
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And when they're arrested, police have been instructed, we're told, to lay the most minor charges available possible.
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And of course, courts have done similar things, giving just tiny slaps on the wrist to even members of parliament who break in restraining orders and protest right on Kinder Morgan's own property.
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Well, I tell you all this because finally, the city of Burnaby has issued a demand to one protest squalid tent city, laughably called Camp Cloud.
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I have in my hand a copy of the notice of eviction and noncompliance with bylaws.
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It only took him, what, half a year to get around it.
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Notice all structures at Camp Cloud must be removed immediately, including buildings, tents, enclosures and tarps.
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Notice trailers and vehicles must be removed immediately or will be towed.
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Notice open fires, like they have open fires, must be extinguished immediately.
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Please, of all the things to keep, let them keep their shower.
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Notice dogs present at the site must be leashed.
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If you do not comply with this notice within 72 hours, the city of Burnaby will take action to enforce compliance, including removing the camp.
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I don't believe that because I happen to know the mayor of Burnaby is an anti-pipeline extremist himself
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who's wasted countless funds of the city with long shot suits against the pipeline.
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So I thought, let's go and send a team, an investigative team, to see what really happens when this eviction notice expires.
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But I don't trust the media either because they always cover for the environmental activists.
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Because the media themselves are environmental activists.
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The only reporter in the country I trust to give us the straight goods on what happened with this eviction notice
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is our own Alberta Bureau Chief, Sheila Gunn-Reed, who lives and breathes oil and gas and freedom and the rule of law.
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And she went down there in her pickup truck with a cameraman and joining us now via Skype from the highway
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So you're actually making your way back to your home from Burnaby.
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You're driving back right now and you just pulled over to do this Skype interview.
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You know, it's a beautiful drive and fossil fuels made it possible.
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You know, I'm glad you went and we flew in a cameraman.
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He is based in Toronto, so of course it would be too long a drive, but I appreciate you doing the drive.
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And we also had a security guard for you because these shanty towns are squalid
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and many of the people who were paid to protest in them, I'm not being insulting here, I'm just observing.
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Many of them are street people, homeless people who were paid 50, 100 bucks a day just to be cannon fodder for the left.
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I've encountered them in Toronto and Vancouver.
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Is that how you would describe a lot of the cannon fodder at this camp cloud?
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Yeah, you know, I would describe it exactly that way.
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And by 50-50, I mean probably three and three of, you know, busy body university students
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trying to justify their joblessness by saying that they're trying to save the world.
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And the other three or four people that are down there are people who realize that you
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So they've moved into this, I mean, it's not even a tent city.
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Like we would call it a slum if you came across this in India.
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So if you listen to the media, the CBC, the Vancouver Sun, whatever, they make it sound like this is an enormous protest.
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But if I hear you right, you said there's just six people there.
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Yeah, you know, and I actually went down the night before the eviction notice was supposed to happen
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because I wanted to see this place in its natural condition, I guess, before it puts on a big front for the media.
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So, you know, I went down there, put a dash cam on my truck, drove past the protest site.
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There were, you know, two, maybe three cars sort of parked alongside of it because, of course, the protesters drive cars.
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And I saw, you know, I drove past three or four times.
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I saw upwards of three people just sort of milling about the night before.
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Then on the day of the eviction, I mean, there was probably 20 or 30 people that showed up.
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And the whole road was lined with cars of protesters who, again, drive their cars to an anti-oil protest.
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And then we decided to come back again, you know, 12 or 13 hours later.
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It's just, you know, maybe a half a dozen holdouts that are there just sort of staking their claim to the ditch.
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It's so pathetic, actually, that three university students and three or four homeless people can hold up the entire economy.
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Yeah, let's show it again because it's so gross.
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This is some footage of the shantytown, the slum.
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But there's some actual wooden structures there.
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How close is this to private citizens, to moms and kids and girls and boys going to school?
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And this reminds me, like, this shot here especially, it looks, who knows what's going on inside there.
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Could you imagine being parents of a kid and you have all these hobos there?
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It's probably 150 meters to the corner where you turn into the Forest Grove neighborhood.
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And when we were down there, we actually went into Forest Grove.
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They were built up sort of around the pipeline and around the tank farm.
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Those people bought those houses knowing that there's a tank farm right behind them.
00:30:12.500
And really, none of the protesters are locals to the neighborhood.
00:30:16.860
They're sort of, they're really just an infestation.
00:30:21.860
But they are, the place where they're camped, if you sort of go as the crow flies across the field behind them,
00:30:31.460
And a lot of the community is concerned about the open drug use that's happening at the site.
00:30:38.240
If you go on their Facebook page, they post videos of them doing drugs right to their Facebook page.
00:30:44.700
I was going to say, I mean, I remember when I went to Occupy Toronto, that was the first time I encountered this professional protest culture.
00:30:54.400
And what I mean by that is you've got the Greenpeace foreign funded activists at the top.
00:30:59.240
They're often lawyers or very educated, professional, high income activists, very savvy and sophisticated.
00:31:12.480
They're not the ones who break in with a Greenpeace stunt.
00:31:16.260
They're not the ones who were, you know, sleeping overnight in these gross shelters.
00:31:20.800
Those are the little people, the lower people, often mentally disturbed.
00:31:30.880
Petty criminals, repeat criminals, homeless people, runaways.
00:31:34.600
In Toronto, I saw a lot of drug use and there were credible reports of rapes.
00:31:40.440
Did you see any evidence of drug use or rapes there at, quote, Camp Cloud?
00:31:46.620
I've never seen a cloud look so gross in my life.
00:31:49.620
This protest slum, did you see any evidence of drug use, drug paraphernalia or other crimes of that sort?
00:32:00.060
You know, I did, you know, like you can smell the open drug use happening everywhere.
00:32:05.720
Now, I didn't see any needles and they also, but they're very strangely protective of their side of the concrete barriers that the city has erected to keep them safe from being run over as they sleep in the ditch.
00:32:21.120
I got accosted by one of the protesters who, you know, I'm not being rude, but he did look homeless, for lack of a better term.
00:32:31.140
He came running down the hill and accosted me because I had crossed the concrete barriers onto his, you know, sacred encampment.
00:32:39.040
And it's so funny that after the, like, now they're concerned with trespassing.
00:32:45.160
They accused me of trespassing while they're sleeping in the ditch around the corner from this beautiful community.
00:32:51.000
And I asked them, did you ask anybody around the corner for permission before you started sleeping in their ditch?
00:32:57.280
And the man just sort of walked away because he knew, you know, what I was asking him.
00:33:02.800
You know, that reminds me of Occupy Toronto, Occupy Wall Street.
00:33:05.280
They were occupying the public park, but they wouldn't let you occupy it.
00:33:09.560
There was one thing you told me about this by email.
00:33:14.580
The reason why we were so happy for you to go with our cameraman and our security guard is because I knew we can't trust the journal.
00:33:22.560
I knew that this eviction would not actually happen.
00:33:25.380
But more than that, I knew the media would put their own gloss on it.
00:33:30.360
And you told me by email, and I think we have a clip of it, of a journalist for Aboriginal People TV Network.
00:33:45.880
I ideologically disagree with some of their ideas, but so what?
00:33:49.000
But one of the so-called journalists for APTN saw you, recognized you, and ran to these hippies to say,
00:34:01.620
Oh, so he was in collusion with them against you.
00:34:05.840
And it reminded me of the day where you were attacked by other left-wing hippies, and the media were in collusion also.
00:34:14.200
Let's play that clip, and then I'd like your comments on it.
00:34:18.100
And I'm glad our cameraman kept the camera rolling.
00:34:37.400
I mean, what's newsworthy to you and to the rebel about the camp?
00:34:42.420
Well, more specifically, I guess, the fact that this encampment is holding up nearly an $8 billion project.
00:34:48.900
I mean, I think it's pretty evident that, you know, the entire Kinder Morgan project is in the news.
00:34:58.160
Of course, this whole thing is newsworthy, wouldn't you say?
00:35:02.020
I'm just wondering, like, do you, have you spoken with any of the indigenous people involved with the...
00:35:22.620
You say he scurried over to them and said, don't talk to you.
00:35:27.240
So I guess he, as we were coming up the hill, we were met by a camper who didn't want us crossing onto his side of the barrier.
00:35:38.440
And so this reporter from APTN comes barreling down the hill at me.
00:35:44.320
The way he was barreling at me, I thought he was a protester.
00:35:48.060
And he stuck his camera in my face, his cell phone camera, because that's what they do.
00:35:53.140
And, you know, when I realized he was another reporter, I sort of laughed.
00:35:56.440
You can hear it on the video because, like, what do you mean this isn't newsworthy to me?
00:36:02.320
I was sort of, I was astounded that he was sort of impugning my motives and interrogating me about why I would bother coming.
00:36:11.640
But what he did next was really the worst part.
00:36:14.920
He scurried up the hill in front of us and told all the protesters who we were and where we were from.
00:36:23.200
So by the time I was getting up the hill, I was already being berated and yelled at by these protesters.
00:36:31.200
And I thought, you know, this is so ridiculous because we know what the people at Camp Cloud do to people they ideologically oppose.
00:36:52.280
That's the kind of people I was walking up the hill to meet.
00:36:55.900
And I didn't need to have them agitated by someone from APTN.
00:37:09.540
Whenever we send you into an event like this or any of other reporters, we have to crowdfund security.
00:37:19.320
The CBC doesn't have to because they are in league with the protesters.
00:37:23.840
In a way, I admire the honesty of that APTN thug reporter protester because he knows you're the only real journalist asking questions.
00:37:43.560
And then he knows you will be the only person reporting accurately.
00:37:46.040
And the protesters there, they don't have to beat up the Vancouver Sun.
00:37:50.140
They don't have to punch the CBC because that's their propaganda arm.
00:37:53.440
You're the only real reporter who ever visited there.
00:38:03.120
There's no way I would have set foot anywhere near that protest encampment without him.
00:38:09.080
There were a couple times where the protesters got a little handsy with my cameraman.
00:38:13.260
He was right there to disperse it, to break it up.
00:38:23.840
It wouldn't be me if I didn't get yelled at by left-wingers.
00:38:27.600
But, you know, he kept us safe from beginning to end, professional, and we needed him every step of the way yesterday.
00:38:39.120
You show a lot of courage, Sheila, in a lot of ways.
00:38:43.840
Sometimes it's against bureaucratic bullies, like when the United Nations kicked you out of their climate change conference,
00:38:50.260
when Rachel Notley sent a cop to keep you out of the legislature.
00:38:58.540
We tried to mitigate it with the security guard, and it sounds like that worked.
00:39:04.640
We're putting them all up on a special website, right?
00:39:10.460
You know, when I was there, I was trying to make sure that I was fulfilling our journalistic mission
00:39:17.840
As I walked through that encampment, there was so much that I thought the rest of the mainstream media
00:39:23.740
and the rest of the media in general are not telling us about what's happening at Camp Cloud,
00:39:30.840
and I think that's why the APTN reporter didn't want me there.
00:39:35.320
Every time something sort of piqued my interest or struck me as hypocrisy, we stopped.
00:39:41.580
We shot a quick video, and you can see that all at RebelBurnaby.com.
00:39:45.120
Well, that's great, and if folks want to help chip in, you drove your way down there.
00:39:51.360
Efron, our cameraman, flew out there, and of course, we paid for the security guard.
00:39:55.140
So there were a few thousand bucks we spent getting these stories,
00:39:58.160
but I really believe, Sheila, that your reports, and they're all at RebelBurnaby.com,
00:40:02.940
I really believe that they're worth every penny.
00:40:06.220
And if our viewers think so, I'd like to encourage them to go to RebelBurnaby.com
00:40:16.480
Sheila Gunn-Reed, doing journalism no one else in the country has done.
00:40:23.660
And would you agree with me that it's a pitiful sign of the times
00:40:26.080
that we literally have to hire a strong, smart security guard
00:40:32.540
Would you agree that it's a troubling sign of the times,
00:40:36.860
If you want to help us, please go to RebelBurnaby.com.
00:40:53.360
Well, I follow Donald Trump's tweets, as more than 50 million people do.
00:40:58.780
He's really the most interesting user of that platform,
00:41:07.700
or bury within a one-hour speech written in bland diplomat speak.
00:41:12.420
Well, I've never seen a tweet like this one written in all capital letters.
00:41:18.360
You would say it's the equivalent of shouting, I suppose.
00:41:35.460
the likes of which few throughout history have ever suffered before.
00:41:41.280
We are no longer a country that will stand for your demented words of violence and death.
00:41:52.780
But then again, with Donald Trump, you could say that almost every day.
00:41:57.020
Joining us now via Skype is our friend Joel Pollack,
00:42:08.520
I have a theory, but I'll put it to you after I hear your theory.
00:42:17.200
The first is the literal level where the tweet is a threat.
00:42:23.920
You can't get away with calling us the great Satan anymore.
00:42:31.560
We're not going to treat it as a normal part of your internal political process.
00:42:41.020
There are two other levels on which this is operating.
00:42:43.720
The second of the three is that this is equivalent, you could say,
00:42:51.040
to Donald Trump attacking Kim Jong-un on Twitter,
00:42:55.140
which eventually got the two of them in a room to hash out the beginnings
00:43:01.680
of what may be a deal to denuclearize the Korean peninsula.
00:43:05.860
It may be that Trump, who has long indicated that his preference is for a new deal with Iran,
00:43:11.920
It may be that he's trying to push the regime into a framework within which both sides can come together somehow
00:43:21.620
and improve dramatically on the agreement that the United States withdrew from a few weeks ago.
00:43:29.500
And the third level on which this works is a signal to Russia that the United States is getting serious about the Iranian threat
00:43:38.860
and that Russia would be better off not aligning too closely with Iran.
00:43:43.460
Remember that amidst all of the noise and chaos around Trump's summit meeting with Putin in Helsinki,
00:43:50.800
there were a few observers, primarily at Breitbart and one or two other places,
00:43:55.600
who suggested that what Trump was trying to do was a reverse or inverse Richard Nixon.
00:44:02.380
Nixon helped contain the Soviet Union by becoming closer with China.
00:44:07.880
Trump may contain China by becoming closer with Russia.
00:44:15.340
So by embracing the Russian bear, Trump may be increasing his leverage on China and Iran.
00:44:22.880
So this is a signal to Russia that Trump is serious about confronting Iran
00:44:26.700
and has states his personal credibility on being able to do so
00:44:30.200
and that Putin could cooperate by, for example, voting against Iran at the United Nations
00:44:37.200
or not defending Iranian troops if they get to parts of Syria that the United States doesn't want them in
00:44:44.100
or by not building new nuclear reactors in Iran or something like that.
00:44:48.100
But Trump wants to start to shake that relationship up a little bit and make Iran more isolated.
00:44:56.400
And I noticed you made that reverse Nixon comment on Twitter.
00:45:00.980
I wish, Joel, that there had been a little bit more reporting about the substance of the Trump-Putin meeting
00:45:10.880
The media was in an absolute mayhem about, oh, this proves he's in collusion.
00:45:20.380
We saw, I think it was John Brennan, former CIA director, saying this is treason.
00:45:24.320
There was a mania that I haven't seen in the mainstream media in at least a week since the last mania
00:45:31.540
and the mania before that, which is too bad because I would have liked to learn more from the media
00:45:37.100
about what Trump and Putin actually talked about when the media craziness was done.
00:45:44.820
I would like to know what those two men talked about.
00:45:47.980
Trump on Twitter somewhat defensively the other day was saying,
00:45:50.980
I didn't give anything away, and I don't know if you have to be this obvious
00:45:56.400
and explain to journalists who were saying, why didn't Trump slap Putin right there?
00:46:01.600
Well, because he's trying to be diplomatic, which is not natural for Trump, I think.
00:46:08.100
It's the same reason he was polite to Kim Jong-un, who's a butcher.
00:46:13.820
I just think that there's a lot of poor coverage of Trump's diplomacy
00:46:18.560
because the media don't want him to actually succeed at it.
00:46:24.620
They don't want to see him as a successful president.
00:46:28.260
The other issue is that the media are completely laser-focused on domestic politics in the United
00:46:35.320
They only asked about Robert Mueller and interference in the 2016 election.
00:46:40.780
There was one very small question about Crimea, but there was not one American journalist
00:46:45.080
who asked about Syria, who asked about Iran, who asked about North Korea, who asked about
00:46:49.400
anything in Europe, aside from the Crimea question, which was very minor.
00:46:54.920
The United States media is entirely focused on domestic politics.
00:47:00.160
By the way, that's true not just when the president goes abroad.
00:47:05.920
Marco Rubio, the senator from Florida, played a huge role in tanking the nomination of a senior
00:47:13.420
judge on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, which was a very, very significant political
00:47:20.380
And he was on several Sunday shows, but the hosts didn't ask him about that.
00:47:24.460
Normally, that would have been major headline news.
00:47:30.720
So the media are convinced that there's something in this Trump-Putin relationship that will remove
00:47:40.200
It's a bizarre tinfoil hat conspiracy theory, but they're so determined to get rid of him
00:47:47.540
And the reason they think that this Helsinki summit was bad and therefore good for them
00:47:54.140
because they want to get Trump out of office is for them, it's the culmination of the supposed
00:47:58.940
collusion for which there's no evidence, by the way.
00:48:01.160
But for them, it's the ultimate payoff for Putin to have Trump in the room with him.
00:48:06.660
And now Trump has said, well, I'm going to invite him to Washington.
00:48:08.840
So now they're all tearing their hair out about that, forgetting, of course, that Ronald
00:48:12.440
Reagan hosted Mikhail Gorbachev, a much more dangerous enemy at the time, in 1987 in Washington.
00:48:19.540
So the media have completely lost their minds because they're totally focused on the domestic
00:48:24.960
They want the Democrats to win the midterm elections.
00:48:27.980
They want Trump to go away or have to resign or whatever.
00:48:30.540
And the key to doing that, they believe, is pressing on the idea that there's something
00:48:34.720
nefarious that Trump did or that Putin has on Trump.
00:48:37.860
And so they are not reporting what happened in Helsinki because they're just not interested.
00:48:42.360
They're not even reporting on what's happening in the United States right now.
00:48:46.780
The leadership of the American media is all in for getting rid of Donald Trump.
00:48:52.560
I think some of them have bought into the conspiracy theory totally.
00:48:56.900
I think others haven't, but they just want to be part of the team.
00:49:02.400
They know that's an effective distractor, irritant.
00:49:05.880
They put enough pressure on things, the narrative sets.
00:49:10.460
I think some of the media believe he's a KGB spy, FSB spy.
00:49:14.700
Some of them don't, but they just love playing along with it.
00:49:20.760
A Wall Street Journal opinion poll shows his approval is up.
00:49:23.320
I saw another poll that asked Americans about their priorities.
00:49:29.160
Like, that's just a nutty, nutty, inside-the-beltway media echo chamber thing.
00:49:39.920
We're at almost 600 days of media mania on Russia collusion.
00:49:45.380
The midterm elections are coming up in November.
00:49:47.540
Do you think it's going to have an impact, or do you think it's going to cement Trump's narrative
00:49:53.640
that you just can't trust the mainstream media?
00:49:57.220
Well, it's definitely already cemented that narrative for Trump in the minds of his supporters.
00:50:02.880
I don't think that the Russia narrative helps Democrats at all.
00:50:06.000
It probably hurts them because it encourages their far left wing to dream about impeachment,
00:50:13.980
That doesn't mean Trump's going to have an easy time in the midterms.
00:50:17.840
I think Republicans are in trouble for a variety of reasons, one of which is their failure to pass
00:50:22.740
meaningful health care reform, and Democrats are going to remind them of that.
00:50:29.860
Even though some of it's crazed, a lot of it is there, and that could motivate Democrats
00:50:35.040
to go to the polls, even if a lot of people don't like what Democrats are saying, there
00:50:40.700
could be enough that show up because they think they're going to impeach Trump that it
00:50:45.700
Now, with all of that, we saw in California, which is the key area for the midterm elections,
00:50:51.500
because there are seven districts in California Democrats think they can win because Hillary
00:50:55.620
Clinton won those districts, but they're currently represented in Congress by Republicans.
00:50:59.640
In six out of the seven, there were more Republican voters than Democratic voters in the primary
00:51:07.140
So that's good for Republicans, but Democrats think they can boost their numbers, and if
00:51:12.600
they can bring more voters to the polls in those seven districts, they will win them.
00:51:17.120
That puts them much closer to the total of 22 or 23 they're going to need to win a majority
00:51:22.480
If they do that, they can impeach the president.
00:51:23.980
So you're going to see a tough trench warfare kind of political fight in California, which
00:51:31.060
is great for me because I'm the editor of Breitbart, California, so stay tuned.
00:51:35.560
Great for you, and I look forward to your coverage of it.
00:51:45.980
Our friend Joel Pollack, senior editor-at-large at Breitbart News.
00:52:03.800
On my videos, reporting on Tommy Robinson's appeal at the Royal Courts of Justice in London,
00:52:10.280
It is heartening to know that there is reason for hope, not only for our hero Tommy, Tommy,
00:52:14.020
Tommy Robinson, but by extension for the cause of freedom for Britain and the rest of the
00:52:19.660
free world, if some important precedents are eventually set as a result of the court's
00:52:27.020
I mean, I got to know Tommy in a friendly way when he worked for us for a year.
00:52:30.320
I actually had the pleasure of meeting his family, too.
00:52:37.220
I think they remind me of those Renaissance paintings of little cherubs, little seraphs, little angels.
00:52:46.440
That's important that Tommy get out of prison for himself and for his wife and his kids.
00:52:56.520
Because Tommy is the last lion in the United Kingdom, the last courageous citizen journalist
00:53:02.460
who is not like that BBC reporter I showed you or the Channel 4 reporter I showed you
00:53:08.700
or the Guardian reporter I showed you who sneer and mock and lie.
00:53:14.420
And I have to say, if Tommy were locked up, 13 months to kill a guy in solitary if the
00:53:21.440
That's why we helped in our small way with crowdfunding.
00:53:23.640
And thousands of Rebel viewers supported Tommy's crowdfunding.
00:53:31.480
Russ writes, very professional reporting, Ezra, and you did a sterling job of motivating
00:53:37.040
Top guy and well done for everything you've done for Tommy.
00:53:43.420
I was initially a little reluctant to do so because a guy leaves the company, even if it's
00:53:52.220
But I just sort of thought, you know, Tommy, you know, who's going to fight?
00:54:00.260
And the other family, they're not built for fighting like Tommy is.
00:54:09.980
And I can hardly wait till Tommy's out and give him a big handshake and a hug and say,
00:54:14.480
You know, we're going to put some space between us again because you're independent.
00:54:18.380
I hope we can hang out with him from time to time.
00:54:22.220
And my one hope, though, is he stays at a prison because it's clear that the state is
00:54:29.800
gunning for him and they'll find any tiny infraction and blow it up.
00:54:33.980
If he's the first journalist since 1949 to be sentenced to prison, yeah, it doesn't shock
00:54:39.220
me whatsoever, even though it was for a trifle because he's Tommy Robinson and they're hunting
00:54:44.600
So, you know, it's tough to communicate with Tommy in prison.
00:54:47.760
I send emails in and he sort of gives a message to his family.
00:54:51.820
But when he gets out, I know I'll tell you right now what I'm going to tell him.
00:54:54.540
I'm going to say, I'm glad you're out, my friend.
00:55:04.500
Because a 90% Tommy is still better than anything else.
00:55:08.320
And it makes it harder for them to throw you in jail.
00:55:11.380
So you're going to sneak peek at what I'm going to tell Tommy when he's free.
00:55:19.780
Without you guys, it would just be the fake leftist mainstream media, mainstream news.
00:55:29.660
I haven't even gone through the Mirror, the Sun, the Mail, the Telegraph, the Times, the Standard.
00:55:38.740
Even the working class papers whose readers love Tommy, all the publishers and editors hate Tommy.
00:55:44.960
And that's not just a business decision that I regard as foolish.
00:55:48.900
It is editorially and in the public interest it is a bad decision.
00:55:52.720
Because the facts ought to be known about Tommy.
00:55:55.280
And the way he is treated sets a precedent for everyone.
00:56:03.260
Sure, I was very concerned about your safety in the UK, but you're obviously okay.
00:56:07.180
Hopefully, you can stay long enough to cover the verdict and hopefully Tommy's release.
00:56:13.240
Well, I actually, as you know, as I mentioned, I went there a day early just in case there was trouble at the border.
00:56:18.960
I mean, first of all, a flight can be late a few hours anyways.
00:56:22.600
But I thought there's a chance they're going to hold me at the border.
00:56:30.500
I also stayed a day later because I didn't know how long the appeal would go if it would go two days.
00:56:37.680
And I wanted to greet Tommy when he was released.
00:56:44.100
So I'm back in Canada now, as you can probably tell.
00:56:47.200
And I am still in touch with the lawyers and the family.
00:56:53.240
In fact, I was in touch with both just an hour ago.
00:56:56.680
And they promised to tell me the minute they know the date of when these three judges will return to court to issue their ruling.
00:57:09.700
Because, again, I want to rebut the lies of the mainstream media.
00:57:13.020
And if Tommy's free, I want to shake his hand, give him a hug, and maybe have him say thanks to his crowdfunding supporters, a.k.a. you.
00:57:21.600
I'll give the guy some space to let us do his own thing.
00:57:24.060
But until he's out, I think I want to stay on the file.
00:57:26.700
And that mission ends only after the reporting on the verdict ends.
00:57:42.580
So, anyhow, let me close by saying the second I get the news of that verdict, I'm probably going to buy a ticket.
00:57:50.960
So, theoretically, tomorrow morning, I could get the news, the appeal is coming.
00:57:56.000
And since it's a seven-hour flight from Toronto, and you've got to buy my ticket, so I probably am going to have to leave immediately, like within hours, of getting that news.
00:58:06.560
So, forgive me if I go, but it's because we've got to close this story off, don't you think?
00:58:11.800
We've talked about it so much over the last month and a half.
00:58:18.300
So, it's probably going to be a day, maybe two, that I'll be out of town again.
00:58:22.340
But, like I said, when I was at Tommy's hearing, I did eight videos and over 150 tweets.
00:58:29.660
So, hopefully, I can give you enough information to make it worth your while.
00:58:34.920
On behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.