Rebel News Podcast - Fake news across Canada, from Manitoba to Toronto (Guest： Marty Gold of theJ.ca)

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00:01:19.600 Is Manitoba headed towards an early election? And what the heck is going on with the open calls

00:01:29.760 to genocide on the streets of Toronto? I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:01:35.820 The mainstream media is starting to ramp up with their fake news attacks on Manitoba's conservative

00:01:59.620 premier, Brian Pallister. Pallister's been accused of skipping a D-Day ceremony when in reality,

00:02:06.900 he gave his spot to an MLA who happens to be a veteran. Now, I recognize that level of fake news

00:02:15.020 and character assassination. We just lived through it here in Alberta, which must mean they're getting

00:02:22.060 close to election season in Manitoba. Now, moving further east, as captured by my friend and colleague

00:02:29.420 David Menzies at the Al-Quds Day march, Toronto has a bit of an anti-Semitism problem. But it's not

00:02:37.640 from the alt-right or neo-Nazis. It's from the radical Islamic extremists who are openly calling for

00:02:45.420 genocide and Sharia law. Joining me now from Winnipeg in an interview we recorded earlier is

00:02:51.940 my friend and veteran broadcaster Marty Gold to talk about both of these issues and what we can

00:02:58.040 do to prevent the hatred on the streets of Toronto from spilling over into the rest of the country.

00:03:15.420 Joining me now from Winnipeg is Marty Gold. He's the editor for the J.ca. He's also a former Winnipeg

00:03:28.680 radio personality and he's a bit of a wrestling legend. So we're lucky to call him a friend of the

00:03:35.880 show. Marty, thanks for joining me. Thank you. I'm only a legend because I've survived this long and

00:03:41.460 almost everybody I started with is now in a blissful retirement. I appreciate that. Those

00:03:47.680 are very kind words. The notion of me being a radio personality is based on a talk show that was

00:03:55.860 really the, I wouldn't say it was the first of the genre in Winnipeg, but after Talk Radio 1290 got

00:04:01.200 blown out, there was no alternatives in the market to what Chorus Radio was putting in with Charles

00:04:06.600 Adler, et cetera. And I provided an alternative until it made the NDP establishment far too

00:04:11.960 uncomfortable. And, and the next thing you know, I'm years later, I've evolved into this kind of a

00:04:16.820 personality, splitting my time between the, you know, we call Jewish affairs, Israeli affairs. And I still

00:04:22.940 try to cover the, the secular stuff, Manitoba and Winnipeg politics as well. Not as much as I did, but I

00:04:29.040 am still on top of a lot of those issues. Yeah, you were making the NDP uncomfortable as an

00:04:36.020 independent journalist before I ever thought it was cool. So I think we're sort of kindred spirits in

00:04:41.720 that respect. And that's one of the reasons I wanted to have you on the show is to talk a little

00:04:45.800 bit about Manitoba politics, because a lot of the things that are happening in Manitoba, it's sort of,

00:04:52.260 it's happening all across the conservative movement. You have a conservative government that

00:04:57.420 was elected to do certain things, and they seem sort of weak on those issues. And there's, you know,

00:05:03.040 the fake news that's happening there. So why don't you give us a bit of a roundup of what's

00:05:07.860 happening in Manitoba politics? Well, in this instance, we're going to focus on provincial,

00:05:14.880 Manitoba meaning provincial politics, what's going on in like Lynn Lake or something.

00:05:21.420 The, the provincial government has clearly decided that they are going to go to the polls early,

00:05:28.920 based on Tom Brodbeck's column today in the Winnipeg Sun. It looks like that date is going

00:05:32.900 to be September the 10th. The election otherwise wouldn't be held until October of 2020. The

00:05:39.800 putative reasoning of Premier Pallister is that a political campaign in the middle of the

00:05:47.060 Manitoba 150 celebration, the anniversary celebrations, would put a government in a position of being

00:05:52.780 accused of politicizing various, you know, events and, and perhaps politicizing funding decisions,

00:05:59.520 or I don't know what. The, the real reasons for this are, you know, far more related to the

00:06:07.660 political chess game in Manitoba than worrying about selling anniversary celebrations per se.

00:06:14.340 There is, let's address that fake news. The, the media here is, are, they are not on good terms

00:06:24.840 with Premier Pallister. He has, he's a difficult guy to get to know. And he's legit, he's got genuine

00:06:33.240 skepticism. Anytime he pretty much, he deals with the media. I don't think he's helped this cause by

00:06:38.900 creating the aura of, of being inaccessible. A lot of the time he went out of his way to say that

00:06:44.140 even in this fake pre-election, non-mandatory, but we're going to impose our own blackout,

00:06:51.400 he's still going to make himself available. So he's trying to mollify that. But the fake news

00:06:56.500 revolved in this case, most recently around the D-Day commemoration, where Premier Pallister did not

00:07:02.780 appear at the ceremony. And the headlines in, I think CBC and the free press are really a forefront

00:07:11.680 of this. Here was a Pallister's missing. And I mean, he took a lot of, I hate to use the term

00:07:18.020 actually in relation to D-Day, but he took a lot of flack for this. I, first of all, it's,

00:07:24.620 it's fake. Anytime there's a headline that said he's missing, he wasn't missing. He had gone to a

00:07:29.000 meeting with an agri-processor that's investing, if I'm remembering correctly, $400 million in a factory

00:07:34.440 in Porter's La Prairie. This, I think, relates to the pea production that's become very important

00:07:40.140 part of our economy. So he wasn't off suntanning or collecting autographs or something or sightseeing.

00:07:49.980 But I felt, and I'm making this statement, you know, on a very personal level, I thought that these

00:07:56.700 stories were ridiculously unfair to the member of the legislature who took Premier Pallister's seat

00:08:04.500 at the ceremonies. John Reyes, he would be a respected member of the legislature, no matter

00:08:12.500 which party he were representing. He's a multicultural ally, a respected amateur sport, amateur professional,

00:08:24.280 I guess it is sports official. I did not know him at all in my radio days. You know, when he first

00:08:30.140 met me, which was about six, seven years ago, he was effusive in his praise for the kind of work

00:08:36.320 that I had done. And I wasn't really familiar with his background, but he's the kind of guy that when

00:08:40.880 you meet him and when you talk with him and see how he addresses issues and public concerns, you can

00:08:46.740 easily picture him being elected as a liberal or as a new Democrat, quite frankly. He's very personable

00:08:52.500 and he's a military veteran and deserved a lot more respect than he got for the Premier to have

00:09:02.160 made the decision and granted his itinerary said he'd be there. And I haven't talked with John. I

00:09:06.700 don't know what the background was to the switch, but for him to make that decision, to let a military

00:09:12.240 veteran who is respected by every, I've never heard a bad word about John Reyes and to, for the media

00:09:20.360 to criticize this, it is like a, you know, like a backhanded slap at John Reyes and the legitimacy of

00:09:30.340 him representing Manitoba at these ceremonies of which there can be no question. And I think it was

00:09:38.320 really unfortunate. Again, the Premier's office maybe could have handled this better in terms of putting

00:09:44.540 out an explanation announcement ahead of time. Why? But the choice of John Reyes to represent Manitoba

00:09:50.300 at this kind of a ceremony commemorating, commemorating the sacrifices made by all the

00:09:55.980 Allied soldiers and, you know, frankly, as well as the loss on all sides in war, it should not have

00:10:03.680 been, it should not have been approached by the mainstream media the way they did, because it, to me,

00:10:08.560 is really disrespectful of John Reyes, as though he did something wrong saying that he would represent

00:10:16.320 our province at D-Day. And I wanted to make mention of that, because John's a rising star

00:10:22.380 politically. He, in my estimation, should have been in the Pallister cabinet through this first

00:10:27.760 iteration of the Pallister government. I expect he will be in it in the next iteration. And, you know,

00:10:34.660 every once in a while in politics, you'll hear of people, like, I'll give an example, Nathan Cullen,

00:10:39.640 people really try not to say bad things about from the NDP who's retiring federally. And John Reyes

00:10:44.560 is that kind of a guy who really rises above partisanship and is seen as somebody who tries

00:10:50.020 to contribute to the greater good. And I want to make sure to give a shout out to John, because

00:10:55.120 his reputation, his actions should not be sullied by the media's rivalry with the Premier.

00:11:01.760 Now, looking towards a prospective provincial election, there are weak points for the government.

00:11:07.680 One weak point is there's been boundary redistributions. So some seats that they took

00:11:14.120 in the last election from the NDP, Thompson, where Steve Ashton fell after 30-something years,

00:11:20.420 that could be back in play. I think it's Brandon East could be back in play. Redistribution might

00:11:25.800 create some pressures on some city ridings as well. But ultimately, Pallister appears to be going

00:11:32.200 to the polls early, because the opposition, the official opposition, as well as the third party,

00:11:37.940 the NDP and the Liberals, under their current leaders, have had great difficulty getting traction

00:11:42.900 on issues. Wobkin, who comes with a lot of baggage, he sidestepped a real problem with regards to

00:11:50.600 the use of the term genocide in relation to the Missing and Murdered Women report, where he said

00:11:57.580 he didn't want his kids to be seen as disadvantaged in some way. It's very smart of him to do that,

00:12:03.960 considering that his kids go to private school, that he's the son of a hereditary chief. It would

00:12:09.240 be a ridiculous argument for somebody to suggest the Canu family was that affected by these factors.

00:12:17.780 He did himself a lot of good, honestly, I think, instead of jumping on that train. But

00:12:22.840 he's got his own baggage to deal with that the Conservative government is going to

00:12:26.160 continually bring up. There are weak points. The implementation of changes in emergency rooms,

00:12:32.800 some being converted to urgent care, it's very rough, very patchy.

00:12:40.260 One of the reasons is that the Conservative government did not take a broom and sweep clean

00:12:44.740 the bureaucracies. Over and over again in different government departments, Department of Health,

00:12:49.800 Sustainable Development, they've continually been tripped up, in my estimation, by leftover bureaucrats

00:12:55.780 whose loyalty is to something other than the actual public service and delivering programs,

00:13:05.960 according to the mandate of the government. That has cost the Conservative's votes. There are a lot of

00:13:10.260 people that work very hard, bringing forward the kinds of crass behavior and unfair decisions of the

00:13:20.140 previous Selinger NDP administration, who feel that they've been abandoned by the Pallister government,

00:13:25.600 where their issues weren't addressed, where there was no, you know, look, it's not reparations,

00:13:29.620 but you've got to try to make things better for people. And they left a lot of bodies, you know,

00:13:33.860 kind of behind on the roadside. And there's very loyal individuals who are Conservative by definition

00:13:39.280 and by their own, you know, political orientation. They're going to be sitting this one out. I don't

00:13:44.520 think they're going to have the ground game, but for the NDP and for the Liberals under their

00:13:48.260 relatively newly elected leader, Dougal Lamont, they don't have the money, they don't have the ground

00:13:52.480 game. The coffers are weak, the Tories coffers are strong. I'll be happy to provide, you know,

00:13:57.140 more insight as the campaign rolls out. But it's a political opportunism, go a year early,

00:14:02.800 and then that way Pallister can plan for an orderly, an orderly step into his next phase of

00:14:09.300 life. He's not going to serve out the full four years if he's reelected in September 2019.

00:14:16.160 Do you think the NDP in Manitoba are sort of feeling the implosion of the federal party? Is that

00:14:24.380 what's leading to some of their ability to fundraise those problems, their ground game collapse?

00:14:30.120 No, I think it's their own, honestly, their own implosion. They got their asses kicked,

00:14:35.200 can I say that, so badly in the provincial election. They dropped down to 14 seats,

00:14:40.660 they've lost two MLAs since, and a number of the veterans of the caucus, James Allum, Andrew Swan,

00:14:50.000 both of whom were interesting fellows to talk to, to say the least. But, you know, these vets,

00:14:58.980 I believe Flor Marcellino is also stepping aside. So, look, what's rising in the ranks of the NDP,

00:15:06.640 they're using the Winnipeg School Division as a farm club. They have for years, to the detriment

00:15:12.920 of the provincial conservatives that have never understood that this is considered fair game in

00:15:19.240 Manitoba. But when you start elevating these hardcore, far left, Marxist school trustees,

00:15:26.880 and these are your star candidates, this just doesn't have a lot of appeal for the average voter.

00:15:34.280 The Selinger government lost, for the conservatives to stand up with 40 seats, that's a lot of lost

00:15:41.140 ground. And Kanu as leader, it just doesn't appeal to a lot. Look, the challenge here is for

00:15:49.080 Doug Lamont and the Liberal Party, who are also, you know, unfortunately for them, they're linked

00:15:55.720 with the federal party, the same way the NDP is. I'll put it to you this way. If Mr. Singh had a

00:16:01.560 better standing with the national media, more prominence, you know, more traction federally,

00:16:08.640 it might help the NDP to the tune of us two seats here. But the Trudeau government is an anchor on

00:16:16.600 Doug Lamont, who again, I've met and talked with personally. And he's an interesting guy and wants to

00:16:24.740 bring forward some good ideas. But any time, I'm sure that at the doorstep, he's going to hear the

00:16:31.760 word Trudeau over, if he doesn't hear Freeland or McKenna, you know, he's going to hear these words

00:16:37.820 over and over again at the doorstep. And that is too bad, because the Liberal Party, I expect,

00:16:43.260 will bring forward some decent candidates. But I think that the NDP is, you know, the threat to them

00:16:50.020 is that if the Liberals gain traction, and they go from the four seats they have, one of theirs,

00:16:54.540 MLAs is not going to be running again. But if they go from, you know, four seats to seven to eight,

00:17:00.580 something like that, then the pendulum could swing in a way where the NDP is going to be permanently

00:17:05.140 seen as a rump caucus of, you know, marginal special interest groups and unions. Unions are not very

00:17:12.940 popular here right now, no matter how hard they try. There's a lot less sympathy for nurses being

00:17:22.520 displaced in the healthcare field, changes, etc. So a lot less sympathy for the unions than one would

00:17:30.320 have expected, because the sense of the public is the unions have had it good for too long. And it's

00:17:34.660 hard for Lamont to figure out how to address that. I know that Dougal wants to, you know, come up with

00:17:41.360 alternatives in terms of delivery of healthcare. But anything that looks like it's helping the

00:17:45.840 unions or directed for union votes, it's going to work against them with the average taxpayer.

00:17:50.620 You know, that sounds so much like what Alberta went through and is going through, where people

00:17:55.860 do think that, you know, the unions have had it too good for too long. And when, you know, the NDP

00:18:01.480 fearmonger about these so-called Jason Kenney cuts, I always think, don't threaten me with a good

00:18:06.300 time. You know, and the Filman government went through that here. And I was no fan of the Filman

00:18:13.320 government. And there's plenty of evidence of that. I caused them some grief in a couple of

00:18:17.640 subjects. And the Sterling Lyon government succeeding Schreier. I mean, Sterling Lyon and Filman,

00:18:23.340 having met them both, and Brian Pallister's actually, you know, talk with them one-on-one.

00:18:28.400 And he's a much nicer person. I find much more at ease in my experience with him. But then again,

00:18:34.660 I met Brian like 1993. And we were running a filibuster that wasn't expected by the Filman

00:18:41.240 government on taxi legislation. And it was left to Pallister, the young guy, the only guy with hair

00:18:46.360 long enough to reach his collar in those days, the legislature to pull us aside and try to broker

00:18:50.720 some sort of a deal because there's no air conditioning in the legislature. And they wanted

00:18:54.580 to go home. And we had 200 cabbies lined up to speak with no time limit. So, you know,

00:19:00.080 I have a longstanding, not a personal friendship with him, but he knows me. And anytime I've talked

00:19:05.500 with him, he's been easy to talk with. I don't, I realize that's not the experience for a lot of

00:19:09.040 people. But in any event, you know, I suppose that for opposition parties, their relief is that

00:19:15.940 they're really, for some of them, they're going to be looking past this election, trying to hold their

00:19:19.560 own turf and figure out what they can do to run against whoever the next leader is going to be.

00:19:24.580 I anticipate that there are a couple of women in cabinet. They're going to be the front runners

00:19:27.760 to succeed at Pallister in 2022 or whenever that might come about.

00:19:33.100 Well, that is very fascinating. I'm sort of looking towards Manitoba with

00:19:39.040 trepidation and anticipation, I guess. You never should really underestimate the NDP. But

00:19:46.140 in changing lanes to the other Marty Gold beat, there's a story that we were talking about off air

00:19:52.540 that you've been following, but there doesn't seem to be that much coverage in the media

00:19:56.800 now. And it's about the pressure from BDS groups against Puma, the shoe manufacturer these days.

00:20:06.260 Yeah, this, this came up because on the weekend, BDS Canada put out a very verbose pronouncement

00:20:12.820 that Danny Green, who's the ace shooter of the Raptors, that he has a big endorsement deal with Puma,

00:20:22.500 as did, you know, the Raptors. And there's a long tradition. Carter and the Raptors around the year 2000,

00:20:29.160 I guess, had a big deal, maybe going into 2000 with Puma. So they decided to try to capitalize on Raptor mania

00:20:36.200 and the fact that the country's swinging behind a basketball team really for, you know, the first time

00:20:41.740 to this extent. And they decided they would try to ride it with some free publicity. And Puma supports the

00:20:47.480 colonial Israeli Zionist project, all that other nonsense, and try to extend their call for a boycott of Puma

00:20:54.980 to connect it directly to the Raptors and Danny Green. And I did a Google News search, and not one news story,

00:21:02.020 news agency seems so picked up on this. So, you know, that's the kind of thing that they do. And

00:21:08.640 then the problem is so much when they, these BDS characters try this stuff, it's when it's stupid

00:21:13.820 ideas like this gain traction. Danny Green is not going to change a single Israeli policy as it

00:21:19.940 pertains to Gaza, the West Bank, or any other issue in the state of Israel, and trying to drag

00:21:25.460 athletes into this, distract them during playoffs, during a title run, it shows you the lack of

00:21:34.880 character of the people that that steer the ship of BDS Canada and these allied groups. It's, you

00:21:42.040 know, lowlifes doing what lowlifes do best being lowlifes. Well, and I think for the average sports

00:21:47.980 viewer, I think they've had it up to here, with both, you know, activist groups and activist athletes

00:21:56.200 barfing their political views into the sports realm. I mean, look at Kaepernick. You know,

00:22:03.760 people are just really sick of seeing athletes kneel for the anthem, privileged athletes kneeling for the

00:22:11.340 anthem while soldiers stand. And I think, hopefully, this is sort of a harbinger of things to come that

00:22:19.560 maybe, maybe these athletes and these sports organizations are going to do a little less

00:22:24.920 kowtowing to this activist pressure. Well, this starts with the sports media. You know, ESPN learned the

00:22:32.280 lesson, right? And the sports media, look, athletes have, and this is an American thing, more so in a

00:22:39.120 Canadian thing. And I, having lived in LA for a period of time, I try not to wade too deeply in a

00:22:47.640 second guessing how Americans conduct their business under their Bill of Rights, under their

00:22:53.420 charter. Athletes have, going back to my childhood, you know, the late 60s, athletes, Bill Russell

00:23:01.860 certainly took the forefront in civil rights issues, etc. Rosie Greer was right there when Bobby

00:23:10.180 Kennedy was assassinated. So I don't want to second guess that too much. But when you start bringing

00:23:16.640 those issues onto the field of play and into the arena, this is where athletes create this, this,

00:23:23.820 this tension with their, with fans, with fan bases, in my opinion. And I, you know, Cap, Kaepernick,

00:23:34.200 I could have sworn I saw a story this weekend, by the way, that I didn't click on, that he had been

00:23:39.860 offered a contract by the, by Seattle, which may be possible. But the, the American public,

00:23:50.260 in particular, views sports as, as, as, as, you know, neutral turf, when it comes to politics,

00:23:57.760 that's how they want it. Nobody booed, whatever anybody thought about Richard Nixon or Jimmy Carter,

00:24:04.560 anytime that they fall in the winning team at the end of the World Series or the Super Bowl,

00:24:08.800 you don't boo that. And so I think that, that the sports leagues have become sensitive to it,

00:24:17.820 they don't want to lose viewership. Viewership equals, equals the dollars that they, that they

00:24:21.720 need to deliver. It's become a very fine line. The CFL has, you know, ventured close to this line

00:24:30.460 in the last couple of years, not so, so far this year. It is something that professional sports

00:24:34.720 leagues, this is an easier fit for amateur sports leagues than professional sports leagues.

00:24:38.880 That's for sure. But once you're a professional athlete, when you start bringing this stuff,

00:24:43.320 you know, into the field, into the ring, uh, onto the, onto the, the, the pitch or whatever,

00:24:49.460 it, it, people don't want to feel they're being antagonized by having something thrown at them

00:24:53.580 that isn't relevant to why they're there, which is to, you know, whether it's cheer for the home

00:24:57.300 team, watch the game, whatever. Yeah. I mean, a lot of people watch sports for relaxation,

00:25:02.160 uh, an escape, an escape from the political world, right? Well, listen,

00:25:07.960 I can tell you from my own experience where I'm, I'm, uh, hosting wrestling shows and,

00:25:14.180 and refereeing occasionally and whatever. And I, I was, uh, in the ring, uh, in a, in a battle

00:25:19.380 royal this past weekend, nobody comes to wrestling shows, uh, to see, you know, great political

00:25:25.780 statements. Uh, they don't see wrestling shows. The, the political statement they see is that things

00:25:31.500 can go on in the ring and are, and are portrayed that are, you know, politically incorrect, kind of

00:25:36.020 ribald sometimes a little bit over the top. Not every show is like that. Some are, are more family

00:25:40.860 oriented, but they accept it for what it is. And they don't put expectations in this country,

00:25:46.480 uh, you know, that, that, uh, they want to see statements made about various political issues or,

00:25:51.860 or, you know, clean air or, or environmental issues. They they're there to be strictly entertained

00:25:57.960 and to, you know, get away for a while. And, uh, thankfully professional wrestlers for the most

00:26:04.140 part in this country seem to understand that that is their role though. Again, online, so socially,

00:26:08.920 uh, uh, uh, they, they're becoming more vocal, more active. Uh, but, uh, when people come to the

00:26:15.420 shows, you're not, nobody's standing there with sign of this petition or something. Uh, we try to keep

00:26:20.840 it in my experience, we're trying to keep it that part of it away from the shows and notwithstanding

00:26:25.200 the event this weekend was, uh, to raise money for, uh, the reason, uh, uh, a, uh, resource center,

00:26:30.980 uh, uh, as part of pride week, it was very more important to premier championship wrestling.

00:26:35.640 You know, a lot of the wrestlers there, uh, that's being part of the community that wasn't

00:26:39.640 trying to jam anything down anybody's throat. It again, a fine line, uh, and, uh, and, uh,

00:26:44.880 it's something that especially big league professional sports. Um, I don't think that

00:26:49.800 they're going to be able to push the envelope in the next five years, the way they tried in

00:26:53.740 the previous three. I think that they've, they've recognized that there's a boundary there

00:26:57.160 that the fans don't want to see cross. Yeah, I hope not. I mean, I've learned over the last

00:27:01.560 three years, if there's somebody that I'm a fan of, uh, a celebrity musician, actor, whatever,

00:27:07.040 I don't, I don't check their social media because I don't want to find out that I'm not a fan of

00:27:11.660 them anymore. Um, I, we took the long way around, but I want to get to another story about BDS. And

00:27:18.380 this is about, um, the voices of BDS sort of being normalized in Jewish media. And I know at the

00:27:29.040 J.ca, you guys have covered this quite extensively where these, you know, like independent Jewish

00:27:33.980 voices, they're given, um, a lot of page space in Jewish legacy media. And, uh, I think you guys at

00:27:43.200 the J.ca seem to be serving as, uh, the appropriate counterbalance to all of that.

00:27:49.820 Well, um, I, well, we appreciate that. Uh, our publisher, Ron East, uh, and we'll talk, we'll

00:27:56.540 talk more about Ron's recent misadventures. But one thing that, uh, that, that he and I have talked

00:28:01.240 about is a number of years ago. It was probably about 2007. Uh, his father, Yoram Amizrahi, who was

00:28:07.060 lieutenant colonel in the Israeli, uh, uh, uh, defense force and was the commander in Southern

00:28:13.080 Lebanon, um, in the, in the seventies, dealing with Sad Haddad and the Christian militias and,

00:28:18.500 and, and, and with various tribes and, and whatever. And, uh, uh, Yoram was a very respected

00:28:23.840 figure in retirement, suddenly in Canada on matters of international affairs, terrorism, et cetera.

00:28:28.480 And he was, um, asked to participate in a panel, the university of Winnipeg in 2007.

00:28:34.220 And one of the panelists proceeded to ambush Yoram and the audience with all this Israel

00:28:41.220 apartheid and all that, that kind of far left nonsense. And, uh, Yoram said, if he'd have

00:28:47.400 known that this is what it was going to turn into, as opposed to a reasoned discussion about

00:28:50.220 the issues and Yoram, it should be understood. He was a labor supporter. He was remarkably left

00:28:55.940 wing. And here they are jumping on a guy who, in terms of, uh, wanting to find solutions,

00:29:01.820 uh, for, for Palestinian grievances and create peace in the region, he's on their side and

00:29:07.040 they jumped all over him. And part of that was the engineering of independent Jewish voices.

00:29:11.660 And what we found, um, uh, in, in, in, particularly in Winnipeg, and this something with the legacy

00:29:18.360 media where independent Jewish voices, let's look at this statistically. Uh, when you look at their

00:29:25.880 counterpart in the U S uh, they calculated, uh, how many members they had, I saw this a while ago,

00:29:32.500 and then I divided by the number of, uh, people identified as Jewish in America, it came out to

00:29:37.460 about 2.5% of these real far left wing, uh, uh, neo-Marxist radical nuts. So if we apply the same

00:29:47.560 formula in Canada, which by the way, would be the high side. Okay. What we saw happen here was,

00:29:53.440 let's go back to Linda, sorry, so we're coming to Winnipeg, the Jewish Federation spoke up,

00:29:57.680 but a breath spoke out the mayor of Winnipeg, Brian Bowman held the press conference, uh, denouncing

00:30:03.360 her being given a platform because of, of her, her strident views and her, and her divisive language.

00:30:09.400 And for a lot of other good reasons, now you turn around and the Jewish newspaper in town,

00:30:14.660 the print newspaper declares that the mayor's been duped by the Federation, by B'nai B'rith,

00:30:21.380 that they're all responding to a bunch of bullies, you know, to it. Oh, not a bunch of

00:30:25.920 bullies, a small group of bullies, noisy individuals. Now with the intimidation tactics,

00:30:32.940 I think the quote was bullies using intimidation tactics, you know, which is an astounding

00:30:38.140 phrase to be uttered from the BDS side of the argument who go around bullying Jewish owned

00:30:43.560 businesses and pro-Israeli students on campus. But anyway, sorry to interrupt.

00:30:47.720 The Jewish day school in Detroit children on Yom Ha'atzmode on Israeli independence day in

00:30:54.060 2016. And they start picketing little kids. Who are these idiots? Well, that was, if not now,

00:31:00.200 but again, that that's all aligned to the same side of the fence. So what we have is the Jewish

00:31:04.300 media claiming that there's no real, the establishment Jewish media claiming, listen,

00:31:09.400 there's nothing really be worried about here. And this just bringing attention to people like

00:31:14.000 Sarsour. Nobody would have even known she was here. Now, look, I don't know. I don't know where

00:31:19.500 on the idiot scale this falls, but you got to be really some kind of out of touch, clued out,

00:31:27.200 as we say, the shtenl mentality to think that a rock star like Linda Sarsour, who's got this great

00:31:35.260 legitimacy and aura among the political left, that independent Jewish voices and these other groups

00:31:41.160 hosted her in Winnipeg, that they weren't planning to make sure that in four or five days before her

00:31:47.060 appearance to spur ticket sales, that they were going to go to their friends at CBC and their

00:31:52.500 other friends in the, in the mainstream media and, and, and promote this, like, look, who's coming to

00:31:58.260 town and the, the, the, the social planning council. And it's, it's to benefit the Muslim women's

00:32:04.000 institute. You think they're not going to like put out a press release? They aren't going to try to

00:32:07.040 promote it. What happened was noisy individuals. There was a petition opposing her being granted a

00:32:13.140 platform by publicly funded organizations. If a mosque wants to bring Linda Sarsour, it may be of

00:32:20.760 concern to the broader community, the Jewish community, but that's their own business. These

00:32:25.720 were organizations that received public funding that have charitable status. When 4,200 people signed

00:32:32.820 that petition, that was not noisy individuals. And that was not intimidation. And on top of that,

00:32:38.520 the Federation and Benny Brith confirmed to me that they had no discussion with Mayor Bowman's office,

00:32:44.220 got a phone call an hour before the press conference. Can you come down to city hall?

00:32:48.400 So this idea that, that Mayor Bowman is an example, didn't come to this conclusion that this was

00:32:54.860 divisive and wrong. And the Linda Sarsour is an anti-Semite on his own. It's not supported by the facts.

00:33:00.860 And even in regards to, again, the Jewish Post and News, when they talk about Linda Sarsour,

00:33:06.880 they use the term anti-Semite with quotation marks. This is the only media, Jewish media I can

00:33:13.360 find that does this. And so to try to, how do I put this? To try to, to, to maintain legitimacy in

00:33:23.160 the broader community, in the Jewish community, these, instead of saying, hmm, the community's spoken

00:33:28.600 out and they really don't like this. It's like, the community's wrong. Our leadership is wrong.

00:33:32.740 There's nothing to fear. There's nothing to watch. This is just making it worse for everybody,

00:33:37.160 which is a very, and Ron and Ron East, I had this discussion this weekend.

00:33:43.540 The Jewish communities in Canada are largely,

00:33:48.120 you know, they've been the purview of people, like from my own background, my own family's background,

00:33:53.040 from Eastern Europe, and maybe in some cases from Western Europe, white Ashkenazi Jews.

00:33:59.500 And it strikes us that part of the problem here is that the Ashkenazi way of handling things

00:34:07.720 was, you know, to not fight back, essentially, to try, hope things blow over, make nice, don't make

00:34:15.180 noise, shash still. This doesn't work anymore. And it especially doesn't work for Israelis.

00:34:19.560 And it doesn't work for Mizrahi Jews, for Jews from other backgrounds, where they weren't fighting

00:34:25.540 Nazis, they were fighting, you know, terror that was coming from Muslim communities, from Arab

00:34:30.760 communities, from those kinds of radicals. And here you have the Jewish Postal News that runs

00:34:38.600 letters to the editor from the Independent Jewish Voices, critical of the Federation of B'nai B'rith,

00:34:42.880 you don't speak for all Jews, which brings me back to my original point. If you accept the calculation

00:34:47.220 of 2.5 percent, which I think is high, if there's 15,000 Jews in Winnipeg, then how many people does

00:34:53.280 Independent Jewish Voices represent at 2.5 percent? They don't even represent 800 Jews in

00:34:59.840 Winnipeg, okay? And yet, when the media is trying to find balance, Lutna starts coming to Winnipeg,

00:35:06.420 and there's opposition. But this group of Jews say that there's nothing to worry about. This group of

00:35:11.620 Jews think that she's got good points to make. Now, you tell me, the last time there was a story

00:35:17.900 about some Catholic Church issue, when was the last time the mainstream media went running to some

00:35:22.600 marginal group of lapsed Catholics, I'm not quite sure what the term is nowadays, that represents 2%

00:35:28.940 of Catholics, and said, well, this group is welcoming the Pope, but these Catholics say,

00:35:33.840 and it represents 2% of Catholics in the country. So for the Jewish community,

00:35:38.600 the pro-Israel community, be subjected to this fake news balance about views in the Jewish community,

00:35:46.200 which certainly is a legitimate news story from time to time. But not when it's a matter of 300 or

00:35:52.360 400 left-wing Marxist agitators standing in favor of something that promotes not just anti-Zionism,

00:36:02.980 but promotes anti-Semitism by the language used, by the methodologies, by the messaging. And yet,

00:36:09.540 look, even the Canadian Jewish News, who I'm not trying to pick a fight with, but they provided

00:36:13.800 column space to a member of, if not now in Toronto, about, oh, you know, you shouldn't be shouting out

00:36:19.740 Jews, the young Jews that question things. Well, look, the problem is, when you're brainwashed by your

00:36:24.940 Marxist ideology into thinking, you know, Israel, this colonial project, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

00:36:31.300 give me a break. These would be the first people, among the first people, chucked off the rooftops

00:36:37.220 in Gaza, if they were there. And they've got a very unrealistic view of the world. But,

00:36:44.640 you know, a lot of this is predicated on, geez, Jews really become successful. So many of them

00:36:49.620 came to North America with nothing, and they're respected in the secular communities, and they're

00:36:55.060 respected for their work with secular charities, with the United Way, with other causes.

00:37:00.180 We have something to be guilty about, because of our success. And a lot of this, especially in

00:37:08.320 the States, there's only two, if not now, chapters in Canada. Again, it's all intertwined with

00:37:12.460 independent Jewish voices, Jewish voices for peace. These Marxists are all intertwined,

00:37:17.100 their own, you know, ecosystem.

00:37:19.680 The way that they have captured in the States American youth, Jewish youth, and it's also because

00:37:31.020 of intermarriage, because of the popularity of reform observance. Canada is still very

00:37:37.720 orthodox and conservative in terms of synagogue attendance. It's like 80% of the country is like

00:37:42.780 that. So what we have is these American ideologies, these American methodologies being dropped onto

00:37:48.580 Canada, not fitting successfully. And how do they respond? You've got it wrong. And the defenders of

00:37:54.180 Israel, we're intimidating people, and we're agitators. Gay and Drayr, as my father used to say.

00:37:59.660 That's not how it's happening. And if you want to see intimidation, again, where was the Jewish media?

00:38:05.360 Where was the mainstream media at Al-Quds Day in Toronto? Where were they?

00:38:08.520 We were there. You were there. Yeah, that is an excellent segue into the next thing I wanted

00:38:14.980 to talk about was the Al-Quds Day or Nakba Day in Toronto. Well, Nakba was first and Al-Quds

00:38:22.420 is second. Nakba was a couple of weeks earlier. And we dealt with that in Winnipeg in a manner that

00:38:26.500 no one on the continent has ever dealt with. When I say we, not so much the J.C. although our coverage

00:38:33.580 did, but the Israeli Association of Manitoba, our publisher Ron East, as the founder of the

00:38:40.740 organization, he put out a call for people to appear. This was not supported by the legacy

00:38:47.140 Jewish institutions because they will not even give the illusion of endorsing anything that takes

00:38:53.420 place on Shabbat on Saturday, which is, again, an Ashkenazi value that Israeli Jews recognize

00:39:00.140 anti-Semites don't take Shabbos off. Neither can the defenders of Israel. Neither can people that

00:39:06.420 stand up for the Jewish people and fight anti-Semitism. And there was a film sponsored

00:39:13.840 by Independent Jewish Voices, which, you know, remarkably, the Jewish media here says, well,

00:39:18.060 it's just a little movie. It wasn't even this and that. Yet when you look at what was actually said

00:39:21.840 by the people who brought the film and they specifically said it was anti-Israel.

00:39:26.180 How can you, you know, people say, oh, bring in this film. It's anti-Israel. But the, the,

00:39:30.240 these leftist Jewish apologists for the radicals go, well, the film's not that bad.

00:39:35.960 Why are you nuts? So a rally was organized to precede their Nakba Day march. They were going to come

00:39:42.940 through a park that sort of connects to City Hall. The Israeli Association march started at City Hall,

00:39:49.500 cut through the park. And they were still like stapling their signs together. And they hear Ron

00:39:53.500 on the loudspeaker on the megaphone and they come rushing out. But ultimately, Ron crossed the street

00:39:59.580 and we published the photographs and there was detente. There was dialogue. There was an explanation

00:40:05.880 that, that you're not, there aren't Israeli militants in Canada, pro-Israel militants in Canada

00:40:12.780 saying, we got to start another war. We got to start wiping out these communities. Nobody's talking

00:40:17.760 like that. And so to get across that, regardless of the political differences and, and, and the,

00:40:23.760 the justifiable tensions that have arisen over a century of, of battle that has gone in terms of,

00:40:30.340 of the, you know, the, the communities are not just, uh, not just in Israel, but, you know,

00:40:35.100 in Arab countries and in, in, in European countries, pogroms or whatever, that there's still a core value

00:40:41.400 as Canadians that we share of wanting peaceful coexistence. And this worked until a couple of

00:40:47.700 the, uh, pro-Palestinian agitators realized, boy, this makes us look really bad because every place

00:40:53.240 else that's having knock by day is carrying signs, you know, pro BDS. There wasn't a BDS sign in

00:40:57.800 Winnipeg, by the way, as they said, well, no, the one state solution. Okay. Well, you know, uh,

00:41:03.640 since the official Canadian position is this two state solution, when you start talking about a

00:41:07.400 one state solution, uh, that does not have a good ending for the Jewish people. And it doesn't

00:41:12.180 have a good ending for Christians either. And the rally disengaged the only place that we can find

00:41:20.100 in North America and maybe in the world where there was actual peaceful talks. Oh, sorry. There's that

00:41:24.740 girl I saw on Twitter that posed with a guy with an Israeli flag and her with the Palestinian flag.

00:41:28.380 And now she's been doxxed and God knows what else by, by all the creeps on her, uh, that, that,

00:41:33.260 you know, say that she betrayed their side of the fence. So to bring that forward from

00:41:37.060 Al-Quds from knock, but they knock, but they, knock, but days like a, you know, they test the

00:41:41.100 waters at every city that takes place. They want to see how the police will respond. They want to

00:41:46.100 see if the Jewish community is going to show up, which as long as these are held on Saturdays,

00:41:49.260 that isn't happening. But now with the growth, the emergence of an Israeli, uh, group that will

00:41:56.460 then lead the rest of the Jewish community that aren't observant of Shabbat, this is changing the

00:42:02.780 ground game right from under them. Ron went to Al-Quds day in Toronto. Uh, and as illustrated by

00:42:09.620 the, the interviews that were done by David Menzies, uh, this is where hate is being festered

00:42:14.680 in our country. And what Ron saw on the ground, uh, and we've got an interview that, uh, uh, will be up

00:42:21.620 this week on the J.ca, uh, where I talked with Ron for about 15 minutes. We've intercut some video,

00:42:26.980 uh, uh, from the rally itself, not just rebel media video from the Al-Quds side as well,

00:42:33.760 their own, uh, propaganda channel. And you hear people like that are presumably, uh, one of these

00:42:40.900 leaders, these speakers, they're relatively young, you know, young lady, presumably, uh, educated in

00:42:47.060 Canada. And the first thing out of her yap is she rejects the Canadian colonial whites, white

00:42:54.700 supremacist, racist Canadian experiment government. Anybody who thinks that this isn't a threat,

00:43:01.800 not just to the Jewish people in Canada, but to all Canadians, as Ron explains, uh, and we'll

00:43:07.840 continue to talk about, this is a sad mistake. Uh, when you look fundamentally at what went on in

00:43:14.860 Toronto, for one thing, it was proven that the city hall is completely, um, what's the word I'm

00:43:21.180 looking for? Impotent. They can make all the pronouncements they want. Nothing stopped the Al-Quds

00:43:27.500 organizers from marching without a permit. Nothing's going to stop them next year. The numbers continue

00:43:33.700 to go up. They compromise the police by ensuring that they bust in 250 or 300 children and, presumably

00:43:42.120 mothers, women, because they know no police force outside of Iran, outside of, of these, these kinds of

00:43:50.200 Islamic countries, no police force is going to bust up a parade or a march in the proximity of women

00:43:56.540 and children like that. So this is a propaganda game that the Toronto leadership, Mayor Tory,

00:44:02.400 well, I, I'm telling you, I, I don't care about Toronto politics at all, but it's starting to impact

00:44:06.960 all of us in the rest of the country, uh, Toronto politics, Ontario politics, because of their ineptitude

00:44:11.780 on a lot of files. This is one of them. Uh, that March, uh, the police response was to herd the Jews

00:44:21.020 and the Israel supporters. Go stand over there for your safety. If there is a threat to the safety

00:44:26.120 of people on public sidewalks, how is it that any police force thinks, well, the way to neutralize this

00:44:32.280 is to, is to isolate the people who are being threatened. It, that does make sense in a spontaneous

00:44:38.100 riot. This wasn't a spontaneous riot. Why did they make that decision? Well, because

00:44:43.660 politically a, the police, it's easier to control 40 people than it is to control 700 or 800. And

00:44:53.640 politically, where are the votes? Where's the political pressure going to come from? And so

00:44:58.340 instead of a country that stands for freedom, a country that stands for tolerance, you had what,

00:45:06.200 again, what Menzies captured in his videos, uh, and, and, uh, and what was not reported in any

00:45:13.180 mainstream outlet I can find, I, I, and I may miss something. And if anybody knows, they should let

00:45:17.940 me or Sheila know, I can't find a CBC story. I can't find, uh, I can't find any coverage of this.

00:45:25.560 I think the Toronto star did actually have a story. Um, and, and so I love you in the, in the, uh,

00:45:31.180 Toronto sun, but where's the mainstream media? I, it, it's, uh, uh, what do you, what are they

00:45:37.880 called Toronto? The Globe and Mail. Was there a story in the Globe and Mail about Al-Quds and how

00:45:42.580 without a permit, they were still allowed to march and, and chant vile things about Jews and about

00:45:48.280 Canada, about the Canadian way of life? No coverage at all. And this is again, from the Iran, this is

00:45:54.720 Iranian, this is state sponsored. The signs are all the same. This isn't where the signs, you know,

00:46:01.980 Trudeau sucks. And the side that a sign like that appears across the country, different rallies.

00:46:06.260 These are all manufactured with the exact same slogans. So this is state sponsored by, has, by Iran

00:46:13.940 in promotion of Hezbollah, uh, and Canadian politicians, they're like this, the Canadian meaning

00:46:21.800 like this. Right. And a lot of people in the Canadian public, honestly, they're like this,

00:46:28.040 that's got to change because this is going to get bigger and it's going to go from Toronto and it's

00:46:33.240 going to expand other Canadian cities. Uh, and, and accordingly, you know, what, what, uh,

00:46:38.780 runs detected is, uh, you know, the, the secular community, if I can use that, uh, that term again,

00:46:45.540 um, people like the, the Christian community, for instance, uh, name another group that, that

00:46:53.380 radical militant Islamist hate. Okay. They expect that the first, you know, canary in the coal mine

00:47:00.980 would be the Jewish community. Well, the Jewish federations, the way they're structured, uh,

00:47:08.280 no matter how many, I think it's $60 million they raise in Toronto. They didn't produce a single

00:47:13.160 person on the streets of Toronto to oppose Al-Quds Day. In Winnipeg, they raised 5.9 million.

00:47:20.460 Again, at Nakba Day, they produced zero people to stand up and counteract this kind of hate and this

00:47:27.740 kind of propaganda. And so clearly there needs to be a different initiative because the federations,

00:47:33.920 which fund our all like the old folks' homes, education programs, worthwhile causes and, and

00:47:40.240 institutions, schools within Jewish communities, but they are not, uh, equipped and they are not

00:47:47.300 constructed in a way to actually monitor anti-Semitism. They're very good at putting out

00:47:53.760 announcements, uh, about, uh, uh, CJA, the national federation, the umbrella body about federal

00:48:00.940 legislation. Well, you know, if they want to spend their time lobbying 15, you know, cabinet ministers

00:48:06.980 or whatever, that's valid, but that doesn't do a lot for the average Jewish person on the street.

00:48:14.740 And there are places in Toronto or grade, the greater Toronto area where Jews are not comfortable

00:48:21.260 and probably not only Jews are not comfortable going. And we had this discussion, uh, uh, you and

00:48:27.120 I did just, you know, just to touch base. Is there any place else where this is the case where Jewish

00:48:33.520 people would feel, I mean, you got to use common sense, you know, you're not going to, you know,

00:48:37.900 you're not going to walk home from Shul deliberately past someplace where, you know, there's a lot of

00:48:41.060 people that hate you, but just generally speaking in terms of neighborhoods. And you mentioned West

00:48:45.540 Edmonton starting to get uncomfortable for Jewish people. I can tell you in Winnipeg, there's a one

00:48:50.200 neighborhood that I can think of a neighborhood. I mean, where a Jewish person or a group of Jewish

00:48:54.680 kids would think we better not go there. You know, I mean, assuming it's broad daylight, not a dangerous

00:48:59.640 neighborhood kind of thing, but in Toronto, clearly this is going on and it's going to get worse.

00:49:05.200 And so to counteract this expansion, because this is the game there, Al-Quds is a front for Hezbollah,

00:49:10.520 a front for Iran. They love to sow this division in our country. They love to sow this, this kind of,

00:49:15.620 of hate. They love to make Jewish communities, Christian communities nervous and, and, and feel

00:49:22.500 uncomfortable. And again, what did Menzies find that they're, that these radicals are relying on the

00:49:28.120 population bomb? Did we hear one word? And again, there might've been something came out that I

00:49:33.860 haven't caught, that you haven't caught. I didn't hear of any moderate Muslim spokesperson, any, um,

00:49:42.260 religious leader from Canada that spoke out against the, the propaganda of Al-Quds day, not one.

00:49:49.320 So it's either because, uh, you know, a skeptic would say, well, this is what they're all really

00:49:53.500 after, which I don't believe, or that there's a fear within the Muslim community itself about

00:49:57.900 rat, the radicals and about their propensity for violence and about their propensity for harassment.

00:50:03.580 And so accordingly, uh, you know, uh, Ron and has had a lot of contact with people in Eastern Canada,

00:50:09.760 uh, uh, since the Al-Quds March. Uh, and it's clear that there has to be a new initiative, uh, that is,

00:50:17.240 uh, uh, created independently at this stage from the organized Jewish communities that will be able

00:50:23.320 to go to other cities in Canada. And we've got a list where they're going to be targeted by these

00:50:27.900 kinds of activities. So they're already targeted by knock my day to, to, uh, build bridges with

00:50:33.940 Muslim communities, build bridges with Christian churches, with Christian communities. We, we, uh,

00:50:39.800 have got a, uh, a couple of invitations to speak at some organizations, uh, in June and early July.

00:50:45.720 Uh, uh, Ron and I are very willing to, to engage in similar dialogue with organizations,

00:50:51.760 with religious groups, uh, to ensure that people understand this is, uh, this is something that we

00:50:59.480 have to stand against now. Uh, 40 people showing up on a Saturday in Toronto against seven or 800

00:51:06.560 marchers spewing the kind of hate that they did that all that does is encourages the hate when

00:51:12.840 there's three or 400 people there. Now the narrative is going to shift. And then the mainstream

00:51:16.800 media will pay attention and God forbid CBC or somebody will actually explain what the river from

00:51:21.380 the river to the sea actually means to Islamists. So in the meantime, this is where we're at.

00:51:28.600 So how do people support the J.ca in, I guess, built that broader coalition building, but also

00:51:37.160 how do they support you in just your day-to-day mission of, I guess you do what we do here at

00:51:43.380 the rebel. We tell the other side of the story, the one that's being missed by the mainstream media,

00:51:47.220 the one that is, uh, politically incorrect to talk about the one that people are scared to be,

00:51:53.900 I guess, what's the right term? M one Oh three. If they talk about, um, how do people support you

00:51:59.200 guys? And that, and that M one Oh three. Sure. That's a concern. Uh, you know, uh, uh, Ron East,

00:52:07.160 uh, served in the IDF. He was born in Israel. His family's from Matula is his, his, his one side of his

00:52:14.180 family goes back seven generations, generations in Jerusalem. And yet he gets called a right-wing

00:52:18.540 Zionist, you know, this and that. Where are you nuts? He's in his family's indigenous to that,

00:52:23.580 to that, to that, that, not just that country, but to that soil. He realizes that this is the,

00:52:30.240 the way that, uh, that people try to try to, uh, deflect, uh, the, the war, the kind of work that

00:52:36.540 we do. And yeah, in a way it is rebel media. Um, a lot of what I did in radio was, was rebel media,

00:52:42.800 Manitoba version, you know, pre, pre Ezra's vision. And this is more microcosmic. Uh, and it's,

00:52:49.520 it's focused on, on Jewish Israel's on, uh, Jewish issues on Israel and antisemitism. Uh, we have a

00:52:55.500 support page. There's a defenders of Israel merchandise, but more specifically, um, you know,

00:53:00.500 we've been working with formulas. There's been a significant look when I started this, it was by

00:53:05.840 stumbling across an, if not now leader from the U S being brought in as a star speaker at a,

00:53:12.780 Jewish learning conference. He's going to be a speaker at a, at a synagogue event,

00:53:16.820 a three synagogue event. And nobody in the Jewish community had noticed in his biography,

00:53:22.160 he was with, if not now. And so many of them didn't understand the kind of, uh, the kind of,

00:53:27.260 uh, uh, propaganda that if not now essentially self-hating Jews, uh, uh, that they engaged in.

00:53:34.880 And since then, for me personally, down the rabbit hole way deep. And, uh, and there's been some

00:53:41.700 significant, you know, startup costs. And, uh, uh, when you, when you get involved in stuff like

00:53:46.740 this, and these kinds of causes, uh, sometimes you're, you're, you're, you're, you know, the

00:53:51.260 usual consulting business I've done is not exactly, uh, has not exactly flourished because the amount

00:53:56.340 of time I've spent on this, I haven't had anybody, you know, tell me off because of the work I'm doing.

00:54:00.380 They recognize the value, uh, but it started off from ground zero. Uh, uh, we can be contacted

00:54:06.580 through the website, through the support page advertising. We've done some very, uh, very good

00:54:11.420 numbers in terms of our Facebook and our Twitter. And, uh, and we've, uh, would welcome more advertising

00:54:17.540 support. That's the easiest way to help us build the platform. But honestly, if there's, I'm going to

00:54:24.060 put it this way, and it's just a formula came up in my head. If there's a hundred Canadians that

00:54:29.600 recognize that having a platform that gets out the pro-Israel message that debunks these, these,

00:54:36.320 uh, Zionism is anti, uh, is, uh, uh, is a colonial project and that Zionism is racism that, that

00:54:45.560 exposes the degree to which this Zionist, the, the anti-Zionist dialogue is just the same things

00:54:52.180 have been nasty, rotten, awful lies and generalizations that said about Jews, uh, uh, for so

00:54:59.780 long as recognized in the Florida bill by governor DeSantis. Uh, if a hundred Canadians, uh, thought it

00:55:07.100 was worth $50 each, that would get us past our startup costs and then put us into the, where we

00:55:11.680 could move to the next phase. Cause this is going to become a bit of a traveling roadshow. I know that

00:55:17.260 there's pro-Israel stories to be told in Calgary, in, in Regina and Edmonton and Vancouver and

00:55:23.260 Victoria, for sure, let alone Eastern Canada. And, uh, you know, I'm, I'm, I've redirected my own

00:55:30.320 energies and Ron spends a significant amount of time, uh, on this, but you know, literally a hundred

00:55:36.240 people with 50 bucks would get us over that first hump and get us to a stage where we can put together

00:55:41.540 a more formal ask, uh, for the, um, uh, for what are, you know, in essence going to be, uh, uh, uh,

00:55:49.620 seminars to explain to the communities where the dangers are, how the media is being manipulated,

00:55:58.380 why it's important to stand up for Canadian values because, uh, and I, I, I'm going by recollection.

00:56:05.600 I think you're, I think you're a Catholic. I am. Okay. And, and so for people like yourself on the

00:56:13.460 prairies, for people like my family on the prairies, we have coexisted with no fights, no battles, no

00:56:22.080 wanting legislation against each other in relative cooperation within communities for my entire lifetime.

00:56:33.080 And, and, and I'm sure in your experience too, it's because we, along with Protestants, along with

00:56:40.420 people from, from, uh, from, uh, Asia, along with people from the African continent, subcontinent,

00:56:46.000 uh, people of all faiths value, whatever we may think of multiculturalism as a political party.

00:56:53.860 We know that our governments have provided us with the ability to live our values of being in peace

00:57:01.320 and the, the promotion of the Iran agenda on our streets. This propagandizes youth. It propagandizes

00:57:10.920 people maybe that are from these communities that, you know, some of the values from the old country

00:57:15.020 are still being brought in. It propagandizes new immigrants who are not being vetted properly.

00:57:19.460 We have to have this off now. And it's not just, I'd love to tell you, yeah, the Jews,

00:57:25.960 the Jews will handle it. We can't. They, the, these attacks on our values are not only about Jews,

00:57:31.960 synagogues, Jewish values in Israel. It's about all forms of Christianity, all forms of infidelism,

00:57:40.560 because there is a contingent of people in our country, aided and abetted by foreign powers that

00:57:48.840 want to undermine our way of life and make us unsafe in our own communities because they do not

00:57:56.660 hold our values. So since I, it's not like anybody can say, Oh, deport them. That's a whole process.

00:58:03.000 And maybe some people aren't here legally, whatever. The best way to deal with this now

00:58:07.480 is for people to, I hate to say this. Um, but literally people need to wake up. Ron's experience,

00:58:17.380 I'm sure David's experience in Toronto as well. It shocked him that this is allowed on our streets.

00:58:23.420 And by the way, as I mentioned to you last year, I think Menzies got a, got shoved or something by

00:58:29.700 one of these, uh, Al-Quds organizers. That's the same guy that sucker punched Ron, uh, after saying,

00:58:35.100 uh, uh, try to use this kid for a photo op, a media op. His kid's crying. Who knows why he comes

00:58:40.660 around the corner. He stops. He says, Oh, as Ron describes in our video, why are you crying? And

00:58:45.580 Ron says, why are you using your child's propaganda? And the guy goes nuts and hits Ron. Ron goes right

00:58:51.020 to a cop on video. Cop says he's not going to do anything. He's there to keep the peace.

00:58:55.360 Now, only in Toronto can you define keeping the peace as letting some, some, some guy with no

00:59:00.480 provocation punch an Israeli leader, but this is a leader of the Israeli community in Canada,

00:59:05.760 but this is how it's working. So people really have to wake up the police. You want to talk about

00:59:09.860 who's intimidated? Police are intimidated. Politicians are intimidated. We cannot be intimidated by this.

00:59:17.880 And I'm, I'm not comfortable being put in the position, uh, of, of, of, of, of having to like

00:59:26.960 shake people and tell them you're wrong. What you, you know, just cause the legacy Jewish media says,

00:59:33.920 Oh, there's room for all voices. These other voices, they're aiding and abetting people that

00:59:38.740 will would in their own realm, in their own regime, they go to their old country. They would

00:59:44.200 slaughter people with your point of view, with your religious background in a heartbeat. So don't

00:59:50.660 tolerate the transposition of that hate onto our soil, onto our land, into our mutant neighborhoods.

00:59:56.960 And our municipalities under the guise of, well, this is just about a political conflict

01:00:01.500 over the fate of Jerusalem between, uh, you know, dispossessed Palestinians on the one hand,

01:00:07.140 and, and what are generally portrayed as white supremacist Israelis, when 60% of Israelis don't

01:00:13.660 look like me on the other. This is, uh, it's become very, uh, very, you can see how upset I am about

01:00:22.120 this. Um, uh, but this is clearly where the J's work has to go now. And, and, uh, if we've got to

01:00:30.760 go to these different communities and wake people up and build bridges and help the Jewish communities

01:00:35.300 come around and understand you can't stay home just cause it's Shabbos, you've got to come out

01:00:40.400 and you've got to show pride in what, what our people are in this society, pride in what Israel's

01:00:46.240 accomplished, uh, in terms of innovation and, and welcoming different people and in providing

01:00:52.140 democracy in the middle East. Cause nobody else is going to do it for us. Now, this is obvious.

01:00:56.320 Police aren't going to stop this. John Tory's not going to stop it. Premier Ford isn't going to stop

01:01:00.860 it before it comes to Manitoba, before it comes to Alberta, before it comes to Saskatchewan. I'm

01:01:05.940 focusing really on Western Canada because so many problems that this country has are because of

01:01:11.280 the failures of Ontario. I know it's one of your favorite subjects now, right? Whether it's

01:01:16.300 immigration, gun laws, uh, uh, the expansion of militant Islamist protests, it's all Ontario's

01:01:25.680 been able to get a handle on it. That's why it's going to spread because you get away with in Toronto.

01:01:30.680 What do you mean you can't get away with it in, uh, you know, in Saskatoon or in Victoria.

01:01:35.220 And so it's going to be tried and we've got to be prepared to stand up for our values and our way

01:01:39.660 of life instead of having it denigrated by this weird coalition of, of grievance industry,

01:01:45.400 Marxist, leftist, Islamist, fundamentalists, the weirdest coalition that are all bound together by

01:01:51.160 one thing. They do not believe in our Judeo-Christian heritage. They don't believe in the way our country

01:01:58.060 is structured and as imperfect as it is, there are no immediate alternatives. So yeah, sure. The courts

01:02:05.120 here can stink sometimes. And, and the, the, the, and, uh, the way legislation rolls out sometimes

01:02:11.220 it doesn't get people. Yes. Plenty of imperfections. Those of us in the kind of media that I've partaken

01:02:17.420 in over the years that Sheila does, like we understand that, but the alternative is that is

01:02:23.320 being presented of deconstructing that holus bolus. It is, there's a different agenda to that

01:02:30.360 deconstruction and try to make things better. It's to make things worse because in the minds of some

01:02:35.120 deranged people, well, that's a level playing field that way. Cause God knows, you know, the privilege

01:02:39.500 that I've had in my life, give me a break. And, and, and I, uh, this is where we're going. And if people

01:02:46.080 feel, like I said, there's a hundred people that think that it's worth $50 and, uh, to them to get us

01:02:51.920 over that first hump and get us that second up, and then we'll be able to go on the road. And, and

01:02:55.460 certainly, you know, in the future, rebel media is a, a, the strongest voice, uh, out there that

01:03:03.180 I've been able to find, uh, for, uh, for the kinds of, of issues that, that, that, that in relation

01:03:09.980 Israel in relation, the, the legitimizing of antisemitism, uh, especially as it pertains to,

01:03:15.700 you know, illustrious college campuses, uh, particular in Eastern Canada, the university of

01:03:20.060 Winnipeg's a real hotbed of moderation. Uh, and, and we, we need to, um, you know, share stories

01:03:28.400 to support each other's work, uh, to, um, to, uh, ensure that the public gets the information

01:03:36.220 they are not going to get. I start with CBC because, uh, that, that is really the one place

01:03:45.340 where I would expect that an Al-Qud story, even if it would have been, you know, slanted,

01:03:51.760 they didn't cover it at all. Is it because there was no way to make that look good?

01:03:57.520 But we can't get on national broadcasters. Yeah. CTV is going to show up and do this.

01:04:05.260 And then none of them, none of them, they don't have a sense of urgency to it. And they don't

01:04:09.540 want to recognize the, um, they, they don't want to recognize this groundswell, uh, and, uh, and we

01:04:17.360 do and, and you do. And, uh, and, uh, this is the kind of work that now we see there's a, what's the

01:04:23.420 term I'm looking for? It's an imperative. It's an imperative. It's imperative that somebody take

01:04:28.440 this on and put out information every day about these BDS NICs, about Israel, about, uh, the,

01:04:35.600 about the Jewish community and about antisemitism and the, the, the morphing of language so that

01:04:42.540 you can say things that you couldn't really say before, but now it's not really about Jews,

01:04:46.600 but it just happens that every Jew is included in the insult or in the epithet. I never thought

01:04:50.700 my life would come to this. I, I, I grew up in a very sedate, peaceful circumstance on the Canadian

01:04:55.960 prairies, could walk to synagogue every Saturday when I was a kid, you know, past my grandparents'

01:05:00.000 house and whatever. And, and we can still do that, but I can see how there's places in,

01:05:04.920 in Toronto. You mark my words next year, the Al-Quds marches with their bus pickups.

01:05:10.980 They're all going to be by synagogues. They, they thrive on this kind of intimidation.

01:05:15.560 And, uh, and if the Jewish communities themselves haven't figured out how to deal with it, then

01:05:20.660 it's going to be up to organizations like the J.ca to lead the way, uh, with the, you know,

01:05:24.680 with the help of people at rebel media and other outlets that see this for what it is.

01:05:29.260 Well, Marty, I appreciate your passion. I appreciate the generosity you've had with your time

01:05:34.420 today. Um, I'm watching the J.ca very closely. I'm cheering for the J.ca. Um, and hopefully in a

01:05:42.600 few weeks or so, we'll be able to check back in and you can do another, you know, round up across

01:05:47.280 the board of all the BDS and anti-Israel stories, um, that the mainstream media just refuses to cover.

01:05:53.480 I'd be glad to join you and talk about Manitoba politics as well, and provide some insight for

01:05:58.400 your viewers on stuff that goes on in Manitoba and, and, and, and Winnipeg. And, uh, and you look,

01:06:05.000 I have to thank you because, uh, a lot of the, you know, media outlets, they aren't quite sure what

01:06:10.280 to make of, of what we're doing because it's not the legacy Jewish media. It's Jewish journalism for

01:06:15.680 the new millennium. It's something that's very new to them. Uh, and so they've reached out kind of,

01:06:20.960 um, you know, cautiously, uh, behind the scenes. Can you give me a little bit of information

01:06:25.020 about this and that, but I'm hoping that appearances like this will show everybody, uh, in the media

01:06:30.080 from all stripes, that this is not, uh, some, uh, we're not, uh, Kahanists here advocating for any,

01:06:37.040 any violence against anybody. We are advocating for the protection of people and for the defense

01:06:42.620 of a way of life that, that we all share in this country. Uh, and, and, uh, and to take a stand

01:06:48.380 against these divisive, um, these divisive elements that, that are, as we used to say in Yiddish

01:06:53.160 or his, uh, form of Yiddish, uh, no goodniks. And there's a lot of no goodniks out there and,

01:06:57.940 and we're just trying to expose them. Well, Mario, I want to thank you so much for your time. And I

01:07:02.420 want to thank you, uh, for the work you do in pursuit of freedom on the ground in Winnipeg.

01:07:08.060 Thank you so much. And I'll look forward to seeing you again, uh, in a few weeks time.

01:07:11.760 You got it.

01:07:23.160 Thanks everyone for bearing with me on those video issues with Marty's side of the video.

01:07:31.260 Just this week, the Conservative Party of Canada refused to allow Muslim dissident Salim Mansoor

01:07:37.740 to run as a candidate for the party. Mansoor should be a no-brainer candidate. For the Conservative

01:07:44.840 Party of Canada, he's an associate professor of political science, a former columnist for the

01:07:50.160 London Free Press, and the Toronto Sun. He's been published in the National Review and the Middle

01:07:56.000 East Forum and Front Page Mag. He's an immigrant to Canada who embraces Canadian values. He's literally

01:08:06.060 the perfect candidate, but his candidacy has been blocked because Canada's cowardly conservatives are

01:08:12.680 concerned that his criticism of Islamic extremism as a devout Muslim himself could be attacked by

01:08:20.140 the liberals as Islamophobic. Mansoor has been effectively, preemptively M103'd by his own

01:08:28.080 party because they apparently are far more concerned about the liberals and Rosie Barton than they are

01:08:34.780 about radical extremism. And that's why I agree with Marty that there's a role for all of us to play

01:08:41.880 in calling out extremism and fighting back against it because we can't trust our political leaders to do

01:08:49.060 it. And that's on all sides of the aisle. Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight. Thank you

01:08:54.440 so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next weekend.

01:09:00.280 Remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

01:09:19.060 Thank you.

01:09:20.080 Thank you.

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Rebel News Podcast - June 13, 2019

Fake news across Canada, from Manitoba to Toronto (Guest： Marty Gold of theJ.ca)

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