Rebel News Podcast - Far-left green movement, mainstream media celebrate coronavirus pandemic

00:00:00.000 Hello Rebels, I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're listening to a free audio-only recording of my

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00:00:09.480 Science Coalition and we are talking about how the environmentalist movement is seeing the response

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00:01:42.560 The environmentalist movement sees the upside to a deadly global pandemic. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed

00:01:48.320 and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:01:56.720 You know there's nothing quite like a deadly disease spreading across the face of the entire

00:02:12.180 earth to really bring us back to focusing on the important things in life. Family, friends,

00:02:17.820 self-reliance, preparedness, and of course good hygiene. That is if you are a normal person with a

00:02:23.840 normal set of priorities but then there is the environmental movement. Just look at this bizarre

00:02:31.320 headline from CNN of course CNN. There is an unlikely beneficiary of the coronavirus. The planet. The

00:02:39.380 article goes on to detail how the outbreak of coronavirus has led to a decline in coal use in

00:02:46.220 mainland China. Which for the likes of CNN means that the communist Chinese government allowing the

00:02:53.340 coronavirus to spread out of control by censoring doctors who tried to sound the alarm bell months

00:02:59.340 ago. Well it's not all that bad. But if you think CNN is alone in its grotesque pseudo-advocation for the

00:03:06.020 lockdown of all of humanity in the name of the planet. Well here comes CBC. Coronavirus work from home policies

00:03:14.280 give climate plan a boost. People are working from home so that they don't spread a deadly virus or

00:03:22.280 bring a deadly virus back home to their families and CBC says what a great thing for Catherine McKenna's

00:03:29.980 bad ideas. Oh but wait there's more. COVID-19 pandemic response temporarily combating

00:03:36.880 CO2 emissions but systemic change needed experts urge. Wow. Joining me via Skype in an interview we

00:03:44.920 recorded yesterday afternoon is Tom Harris of the International Climate Science Coalition to discuss

00:03:50.480 how the environmentalist movement is embracing the measures meant to stem the tide of the deadly COVID-19

00:03:57.060 pandemic as a template to battle their so-called climate emergency.

00:04:17.620 Joining me now from the Ottawa area is Tom Harris from the International Climate Science Coalition and I

00:04:24.980 wanted to have Tom on the show because one of the underlying things that has sort of emerged from

00:04:31.100 the coronavirus pandemic is how some people have completely forgotten about the dire warnings of

00:04:40.640 climate change that were just happening like three weeks ago and others are using it as a template

00:04:47.820 for what could be done to deal with climate change. Hey Tom thanks for coming on the show.

00:04:54.300 There's so much to talk about. I sent you an article and you sent me five back.

00:04:59.780 Yeah it's sort of sad because what they're saying is that this shows the kind of systemic change that's

00:05:05.680 necessary in our society if we're to stop the climate from changing. Well you know I guess the

00:05:11.060 answer to that would be well yeah and is this what you want? I mean have a look around you with the

00:05:16.840 exception of the gas being low price. The kind of changes that the environmentalists want would

00:05:22.000 actually result in the kind of changes we're seeing like right around us you know jobs closing and

00:05:26.660 and people not being able to transfer or move around and and I think that in a sense I mean

00:05:32.420 they're saying this is is going to give us an example of what we can do. Well I would say this is an

00:05:37.740 example of what they want us to do and I would say my goodness is this the kind of society you want

00:05:43.140 and I think when this is all over that's perhaps the lesson that people will get is the environmentalists

00:05:49.080 actually we're not too displeased with this event because it showed what could happen whereas I

00:05:54.500 would think that most people would say yeah and that's not what we want to happen. Yeah I sent you

00:06:01.740 a CBC article yesterday and the title is COVID-19 pandemic response temporarily combating CO2 emissions

00:06:11.560 but systemic change needed experts urged so somehow um they've shoehorned uh a good news story I guess

00:06:21.080 for them into all of this is that you know despite that the fact that thousands of people across the

00:06:27.980 world are sick and this has been unleashed upon us by the Chinese government isn't it great that CO2 1.00

00:06:34.400 emissions are down? I mean it's so strange and anti-human that this is the immediate response from the

00:06:41.300 environmental movement. Yeah in fact we heard from one of the top UN people that there's a good side

00:06:46.940 to it because people are not traveling and not flying and not living their normal lives. And dying.

00:06:53.220 Yeah I come back to the point well yeah and is that the kind of life you want? So in a way this is an

00:06:59.740 illustration of what the environmentalists are pushing for except as I say gas prices will go through

00:07:04.840 the roof whereas right now they're quite cheap. But that CBC article is a weird one because they're

00:07:10.480 mixing up pollution and carbon dioxide on the climate issue and they talk about the number of

00:07:15.800 deaths as a result of exposure to air pollution. Well you know in reality nobody dies unless they're

00:07:21.660 sucking on a tailpipe or something or in a gas chamber they don't die due to pollution. I mean it's

00:07:26.920 a contributing factor in extremely bad areas like in China. But in Canada and the United States in

00:07:33.900 particular we see that pollution levels have been dropping so much that in fact on the environmental

00:07:40.120 protection agency website I was just noticing they were saying that a car today puts out they said

00:07:47.040 99 percent reduction in pollution since 1970. Okay so we're actually doing very well when it comes to

00:07:53.940 pollution. CO2 is another story but as you know CO2 is plant food so when they mix the two issues up

00:08:01.520 in the article like this it really doesn't make any sense. Yeah you also sent me an article that was

00:08:08.280 published in the Sunday Times of London lamenting the fact that the pandemic is sort of taking a higher

00:08:18.260 priority than climate change and some of the quotes in that are quite crazy. You know that it says

00:08:28.300 for now COVID-19 can't be stopped only slowed but climate change can both be stopped and slowed.

00:08:35.720 How? How? In fact Greenpeace were at my door a few years ago and I guess I chose the wrong door to

00:08:42.920 knock on. They asked me if I would contribute money to help them stop climate change. So I asked them

00:08:49.080 well are you going to help us stop the next ice age and they kind of looked at me like huh? You know and

00:08:54.740 I think that's the point is that climate change is naturally all the time. We've had far hotter and

00:09:00.860 far colder, far stormier, far higher and lower sea levels. You know the bottom line is this is climate

00:09:07.980 change is natural. Unlikely, very much unlike this pandemic which is not at all natural of course.

00:09:14.280 So there is really no comparison except for saying this is the kind of future environmentalists seem to

00:09:20.760 want and that should be a big warning. And also as Rex Murphy pointed out in his piece,

00:09:26.880 climate fanatics never miss an opportunity. They really are fanatics when they take something which

00:09:32.360 is so serious across the world and they say oh but you know this is actually a good thing because

00:09:37.880 we're reducing CO2. So it is really kind of mentally ill actually. Yeah there's a Times of London 0.92

00:09:45.760 article published on March 5th that says don't take this the wrong way. So you know that this is going

00:09:51.720 to be gross. When they preface the sentence with don't take this the wrong way. But if you were a

00:09:57.180 young hardline environmentalist looking for the ultimate weapon against climate change you could

00:10:01.740 hardly design anything better than coronavirus. Unlike most other diseases it kills mostly the old 0.57

00:10:09.380 who let's face it are more likely to be climate skeptics. It spares the young. So what a great

00:10:17.920 thing. It's getting rid of all the people left with common sense. So that the anti-human environmental

00:10:25.240 movement can just move in and clean up the I guess what's left of the world. If there's any people

00:10:32.660 left. You know some of the extremists of course in society are members of a group called the Voluntary

00:10:37.960 Human Extinction Movement. And if you look on the web you'll see there's thousands of people across

00:10:42.860 the world who actually think that the earth would be far better off if humans just disappeared. Now

00:10:49.080 they're not saying we should all go out and kill ourselves but they say we should have no more

00:10:52.220 children so that in fact it would be the gradual end of the human race. So you know this is underlying

00:10:58.040 some of the more extreme elements of the climate change movement and it's it's really sick you know.

00:11:03.940 I would argue that it's not a more extreme. I think this is actually probably the mainstream

00:11:10.260 position of the environmentalist movement that there are too many people that the old people 1.00

00:11:16.180 are taking up resources that the old people should stop having opinions that climate skeptics really of 0.99

00:11:22.720 any age should be rounded up. I'm pretty sure David Suzuki expressed a sentiment to that effect. I

00:11:30.120 think it is absolutely the mainstream position of the environmental movement and it's so mainstream

00:11:37.500 that it's being printed in the Times of London and nobody bats an eye. Yeah yeah exactly and yet you

00:11:44.080 know as societies advance as we have more money and more wealth and prosperity what we find is that we

00:11:50.260 protect the environment better okay because people have the resources and the time and the energy

00:11:55.100 to actually care about the environment. So the whole idea that you know we should impoverish society

00:12:00.820 which is kind of implicit in a lot of this silly stuff that you're quoting it doesn't make any sense.

00:12:06.140 I mean if you look at a country like Somalia how much do you think they care about the environment 1.00

00:12:09.920 okay when you have warlords fighting back and forth. So in fact in many cases the environmentalists

00:12:15.180 are shooting themselves in the foot because trying to make our society impoverished is the exact opposite

00:12:21.060 of what you should do. There's something called the Kuznets curve and the researcher Mr. Dr. I presume

00:12:27.660 Kuznets actually got a Nobel Prize for this in which he showed that if you draw a curve that plots

00:12:33.900 standard of living versus environmental degradation what you see is at first as the standard of living

00:12:41.180 increases and you have more consumption the environment gets worse but you get to a certain point

00:12:45.680 and then it drops off and as you get wealthier and more wealthy and you have more time and more

00:12:51.680 resources to care for the environment the environment actually improves. So indeed we should be

00:12:56.560 encouraging countries like in Africa for example to use their natural resources their coal their oil

00:13:02.600 their natural gas to boost their society so that they will have the funds and care about the environment.

00:13:09.440 So in many ways you know the the earth hour and all these other different crusades

00:13:13.860 where they're trying to get us to use less energy are exactly the opposite because we see societies

00:13:19.860 that use almost no energy are poor and that's not the way we want to be if indeed we want to protect

00:13:26.440 the environment let alone all the other things we need. You know it's as you were saying that

00:13:33.140 some of the other solutions that the environmentalists think will be the answer to the problem they think is

00:13:39.720 out there. One of the big ones is that we need societal and governmental change i.e. moving away

00:13:46.180 from a capitalist consumerist based society that has made us the most prosperous society ever to exist

00:13:56.020 and the healthiest society ever to exist. I mean the grocery store is a testament to that that you can

00:14:00.800 walk into your local for me Fort Saskatchewan grocery store and get food from all around the world

00:14:05.640 at an affordable price things my grandparents a couple generations ago would only dream of

00:14:11.080 but they want us to move away from that to communism and when you look at communist societies around the

00:14:19.440 world they're filthy. I mean the Soviet Union before it fell absolutely disgusting the most polluted lake in 0.98

00:14:27.400 the world was in the Soviet Union. Look at China. Yeah well you know Jordan Peterson who I you've probably

00:14:34.420 interviewed him I guess he had a really interesting answer to a woman in Australia just the other day

00:14:39.740 it just came out I put it on my Facebook page and people can follow all of our articles that way if you

00:14:44.520 search Tom Harris and climate you'll see my Facebook page but regardless this woman was asking him about

00:14:50.980 oh this terrible climate disaster and Jordan Peterson said you know I think most of the people who are

00:14:57.700 charging on this crusade are people who don't have their own houses in order you know their own personal lives in

00:15:04.240 order so they use this crusade to kind of deflect their attention away from all their own shortcomings and that

00:15:10.540 what he said is that what young people should do is try to make themselves powerful and strong and healthy and

00:15:16.420 intelligent and take their education you know and do the things they need to eventually be able to contribute to

00:15:21.820 society but he was saying that in fact he thinks a common denominator amongst many of these crusaders

00:15:28.280 for the climate or other environmental concerns are that their own lives are actually screwed up

00:15:33.360 and that they're using this as a distraction rather than fixing themselves and I thought that was a pretty

00:15:39.020 unique answer. Yeah I think there's some truth to that that you know it's easy to

00:15:46.820 uh want to fix the entire world because it's easier to to make somebody else the villain and then

00:15:54.680 instead of fix your own life where you are actually the self-destructive villain. I mean we should control

00:16:00.940 the controllables okay there's so many issues that I have personally and everybody has personally that you

00:16:06.620 have actual control over and what Peterson was saying is look get your own house in order control your

00:16:12.540 own controllables and then someday you can help the world but he says when you have people trying to

00:16:17.640 help the world who are all kind of mentally upside down oh yeah that's not really very good um you

00:16:24.120 know in one of the articles here we're talking about earth hour did you would you like to talk about

00:16:28.220 that a little I would love to talk about earth hour that's the next next thing yes and it's sneaking

00:16:35.100 up on us again this year Tom how are you celebrating earth hour I plan to have every light in the

00:16:41.660 house on and they're going to see me from the international space station oh yeah exactly because

00:16:47.720 energy consumption correlates directly with wealth which correlates directly with protecting the

00:16:52.900 environment so yeah the earth hour people they're saying to switch off your lights for an hour on

00:16:57.620 Saturday March 28th 2020 at 8 30 p.m your local time now if as I said in the article that we had

00:17:04.740 published recently if this were about saving energy to show our support for the 860 million people

00:17:11.400 who don't have electricity around the world then it could make some sense but in fact the driving

00:17:17.100 factor in earth hour for years in fact the origin of it in Australia was basically to stop climate

00:17:23.220 change okay and if you actually read through the promotions from last year they say global warming this

00:17:28.460 is from the Australia earth hour web page right at the top it says choose your climate future

00:17:33.500 global warming caused by carbon pollution from burning fossil fuels wow come on there's two mistakes in

00:17:40.180 that sentence right away it's not carbon it's not pollution and it's not global warming is not being

00:17:46.740 caused by our burning of fossil fuels or at least not very much if there is any at all but I mean this

00:17:52.380 is like and I always love the appendix for the book 1984 and people should read that again if they read

00:17:59.260 it years ago read it again because it's right in the debate constantly carbon pollution green energy climate

00:18:05.940 deniers the language of the debate has been completely skewed so that you can't really even have a

00:18:11.920 sensible conversation anymore because everyone's using this sort of language even many conservatives

00:18:16.920 are calling it carbon pricing and that's a big mistake you should not do that because of course as you know

00:18:22.380 carbon is soot it's also diamonds you know it's pure form of carbon in nature but carbon dioxide of course

00:18:30.180 is plant food and you know if people actually go to the climate change reconsidered dot org

00:18:35.740 climate change reconsidered dot org website what you'll find here is they have a report called biological impacts

00:18:43.520 and it cites 1,000 peer-reviewed studies that show that forests and grasslands have actually become more productive

00:18:51.960 they've actually increased as co2 levels have risen and you see what co2science.org is another interesting website

00:18:59.180 that people should check out co2science.org out of arizona that's the idzo's dr dr idzo he actually

00:19:06.280 does tests in greenhouses which show what happens when you double triple or quadruple carbon dioxide

00:19:12.700 levels above the ambient atmosphere and what he shows first of all not surprisingly plants grow much

00:19:18.980 better but the other thing which he shows which i think is really quite amazing is they need less water

00:19:24.700 so as co2 levels rise in our atmosphere we're going to find areas that start growing plants

00:19:30.800 that currently are too dry because of a lack of water so carbon dioxide carbon pollution come on it's

00:19:37.400 the exact opposite it's beneficial to all of us now it's true that if co2 levels were too high

00:19:43.640 we would be displacing oxygen and so we'd be in trouble but how high does it have to go before it's

00:19:49.880 actually a threat for humans here's the answer in submarines co2 levels can reach 10 000 parts per

00:19:57.580 million our outside atmosphere is about 125th of that okay so you would still be able to be okay

00:20:06.220 because there's no harmful effects on the crew with co2 levels of 25 times today level and of course

00:20:13.400 throughout earth's history there'd be many times when co2 was much much higher than today indeed over the

00:20:19.700 course of geologic history we're at one of the lowest levels of co2 in the whole of earth's

00:20:24.660 history and patrick moore who i know you've interviewed he's a wonderful person to talk to

00:20:29.120 uh you know former greenpeace founder now totally on our side in the climate issue he points out that co2 1.00

00:20:36.160 has been dropping steadily for millions of years and if we hadn't come along and liberated it through

00:20:42.360 cement and fossil fuel combustion we would in fact perhaps see co2 drop to a level at which plants

00:20:49.520 die so the whole concept that co2 is pollution that needs to be controlled it's a huge mistake

00:20:56.660 and sadly you know our government and to a certain extent even the conservative party they mix these

00:21:02.140 things up pollution carbon dioxide you know they got a backup and say just a minute we're talking about

00:21:07.400 oranges and apples they're different things and sure we're controlling pollution and we're doing a good

00:21:12.100 job of that co2 let it go in fact there are people who say we should be happy that it's rising 0.73

00:21:18.460 because we'll see more crop productivity so the earth hour concept is wrong and dr ball says it

00:21:25.360 point blank he says the basic assumption on which the entire uh theory that human activity is causing

00:21:31.380 global warming or climate change is wrong okay he says it point blank and dr ball is you know one of

00:21:37.740 the best authorities in the world on this field you know i think it's funny and i'm sort of proud

00:21:43.520 to say that normally during earth hour uh energy consumption spikes in both of the major cities

00:21:50.300 in alberta so you know we got to pat ourselves on the back for that um but i do and there's some

00:21:55.720 great irony in the fact that um there are a lot of uninformed and uh however well-meaning i don't

00:22:03.760 i don't think that they're like sinister although some people in the environmentalist movement clearly are

00:22:08.580 but a lot of well-meaning however ill-informed individuals sitting in the dark burning a

00:22:14.720 paraffin candle for an hour and not even having a clue where that paraffin came from um to fight 0.99

00:22:21.140 climate change yeah in fact i've heard there's a group in the states that they call it human

00:22:25.220 achievement hour where they like you intentionally use more and more resources specifically to celebrate

00:22:32.020 how our society has done so well and you know it comes back to this virus again we're having a

00:22:37.560 preview of what would happen if we all if we actually followed the environmentalist advice

00:22:42.800 you know we'd have a society that's very poor we wouldn't have jobs you know we couldn't be able

00:22:47.800 to drive anywhere i mean that's where these uh extremists want to take us so yeah in a way that is

00:22:54.380 a lesson from this virus is that yeah if you want their kind of future you're experiencing it now

00:23:00.180 yeah life would be short miserable not very much fun and plagued by disease um moving along um you and

00:23:09.600 your co-author jay lair you have an article where you make the case that it is time to end the u.n

00:23:18.300 climate fiasco and i kind of hope it goes on just one more year because next year's um event is in

00:23:25.800 glasgow scotland and i've never been so just one more year and then let's stop it i've never been

00:23:32.480 to scotland either and i'll probably go there but you know one thing the group clintel um out of the

00:23:38.980 netherlands i believe it is planning to have a full-blown climate debate okay presenting the science

00:23:46.160 the economics on both sides so that people can actually hear what's going on and i think that that

00:23:51.460 will be very very productive and in that sense i hope the scotland event goes on because it's about

00:23:57.220 time we had that sort of a debate i mean the whole idea that you can't discuss it without people calling

00:24:02.000 you a denier and turning you off i mean that's very sad because this is real science and and you

00:24:07.200 know it also the pandemic might help people take a bit of a different perspective about the whole use

00:24:13.060 of the term climate emergency because we are in an emergency now with respect to the pandemic and we

00:24:18.520 have to take sensible precautions that is something that's real now when they use the term emergency to

00:24:24.580 apply to to climate change i mean you found yourself in your in your own research that they did no research

00:24:30.720 before the government decided it was a climate emergency they just grabbed the term and the trouble

00:24:36.240 is if you're calling wolf too often with a term like emergency then people won't take it seriously

00:24:41.740 when you really have one so i hope this makes people reevaluate the whole concept of using

00:24:47.440 the term emergency with respect to a gradual tiny change in climate i mean since 1880 we've seen just

00:24:55.360 over one degree celsius rise okay and you have to look well when were the extreme weather records

00:25:02.580 virtually all of them were set in the 1930s so you know there's no emergency in fact there's very

00:25:07.620 little going on when it comes to climate at all except in the heads of people who welcome the virus

00:25:14.180 like they're nuts yeah isn't that the truth now i wanted to um sort of plug some of the other work

00:25:23.780 that you're doing um you not only are with international climate science coalition but

00:25:30.880 you do interviews and uh you have your own podcast and you had a really great podcast um with mark morano

00:25:39.080 from climate depot who is great uh he's always so much fun at the un climate change conferences

00:25:46.040 because he always has some sort of little uh stunt that he pulled to bring everybody back to reality

00:25:52.860 and and um re-emphasize the ridiculousness of these things like a couple years ago he dressed as um

00:25:59.720 the captain from the love boat and he tried to get onto the greenpeace boat

00:26:04.120 yeah mark is ironic and the beauty of it was the day before greenpeace had tried to board a coal ship

00:26:14.020 like you know greenpeace's generalized stunts where they where they trespass and board coal ships and uh

00:26:20.120 he just tried to return the favor and i think they were calling the cops

00:26:23.840 so it's pretty quick how uh they prove themselves to be hypocrites but i wanted to make sure that

00:26:29.900 everybody knows what else you're doing out there because not only are you with international climate

00:26:33.860 science coalition but you're doing some interesting things and you are having these discussions that

00:26:39.280 the environmental left thinks need to be shut down yeah exactly if people do a google search

00:26:44.960 uh between tom harris and the name of my show which is exploratory journeys it'll come up on

00:26:51.580 iheart radio and all sorts of places or they can just go to our home page which is climatescience

00:26:57.400 international dot org and you'll see in clark's interview because i interviewed him a couple of

00:27:02.260 weeks ago mark morano's interview people have got to listen to it because it's so great yeah i mean

00:27:08.160 mark is is a total live wire he's a wonderful guy and you know he is hated by so many environmental

00:27:14.680 extremists that uh you know people have got to listen in i actually uh hung out with mark in

00:27:20.960 2009 at the copenhagen climate conference and it was it was quite a riot because we were allowed to

00:27:27.060 get into the press center oh my goodness and we were sort of moving around talking to people and

00:27:33.420 then they said what are you doing in the press center we said oh they said we can get into the

00:27:36.720 press press center and so there's an argument back and forth as to whether we should be there and

00:27:41.120 it was quite hilarious actually but yeah mark is wonderful and his new movie climate hustle 2

00:27:47.220 um i was just corresponding with them unfortunately it won't be released on the 21st of april because it

00:27:53.600 sounds like the um theaters will be closed until the beginning of may so indeed it'll be released a

00:27:59.740 little later but i encourage people to check it out because uh the the trailers are already on the web

00:28:05.180 for climate hustle 2 and kevin sorbo you might remember from hercules also from the andromeda

00:28:11.900 ascendant science fiction that's where i knew him uh he was wonderful in that he's the host of this

00:28:16.960 movie so they've got a real you know first class hollywood star as their main character in climate

00:28:23.540 hustle 2 so people have got to check it out and if you are not sure if you can't find the trailer

00:28:28.900 just go to cfac cfac yeah cfac t i guess it is which is committee for a constructive tomorrow

00:28:37.640 and they advertise it right there so we've got a really beautiful video about to come

00:28:43.000 from mark morano and company that that's fantastic we at the rebel we did a premiere of climate

00:28:51.840 hustle the first one when it came out we packed theaters in edmonton and calgary and then we sort

00:28:58.100 of did a q a session with mark afterwards and it was i would suggest some of our more successful

00:29:03.780 events that we've ever done um because you know it's great to have somebody like mark come to town

00:29:09.840 he's this big american name and and uh you know and he's not afraid to to have these discussions and

00:29:16.280 he does it with his own sort of style and panache it's great for canadians to see that um and one

00:29:23.160 more thing yeah yeah um i as you were talking i just pulled up exploratory journeys with tom harris on

00:29:30.660 my phone you're on google podcast so i'm assuming you're on itunes there too um 24 fabulous episodes of

00:29:37.460 tom's work um if you want to subscribe folks at home um tom where else can people find the work

00:29:43.400 that you do and support the work that you do well the best thing is to look at our website which is

00:29:48.840 climate science international dot org okay and we're going to be actually launching a new group as we've

00:29:54.760 talked about previously called climate realism canada so stay tuned that's coming soon okay i'm working

00:30:02.140 with some others in the background but uh that's going to be quite a nice movement because we're

00:30:07.420 actually showing people how you know canada has to have a climate realist movement and we better get

00:30:13.860 it soon before we kill more and more of our activities and and we actually end up with a

00:30:18.640 permanent crippling of our society um i think some of the damage that has been done especially to our

00:30:25.400 investment sector may be permanent especially with the um energy renaissance taking shape in the united

00:30:32.820 states but tom as soon as climate realism canada is ready to launch please let me know so i can have

00:30:37.580 you back on the show and let everybody let everybody see what you're up to next okay well that's great

00:30:43.240 thanks a lot sheila thanks tom thanks for taking the time today you're always so generous with your

00:30:47.560 time and we'll have you back on the show real soon okay bye-bye

00:30:51.520 in the coming days and weeks ahead we are going to see exactly who is made of what are people going

00:31:04.600 to be decent good neighbors are they going to learn how to be self-reliant when our government has failed

00:31:11.420 to keep us safe are people and more importantly politicians going to be able to set aside their

00:31:17.420 differences to do what's right for all of us a lot of things are going to shake out of the trees in

00:31:22.340 the next few weeks but so far the environmentalist movement is proving themselves to be the anti-human

00:31:29.040 crazy people i've always thought they were well everybody that's the show for tonight thank you so much

00:31:36.600 for tuning in i'll see everybody back here in the same time in the same place next week please do stay

00:31:43.600 healthy and remember don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think

Rebel News Podcast - March 19, 2020

Far-left green movement, mainstream media celebrate coronavirus pandemic

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