Rebel News Podcast - Fighting Liberal Bill C-71 - worst attack on Canadian firearms owners in a generation (Guest： Tony Bernardo, CSSA)

00:00:00.000 The Liberals' latest gun control legislation has passed the House of Commons last week.

00:00:06.020 Now what comes next for the over 2 million law-abiding, business-minding Canadian gun owners?

00:00:14.380 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gun Show.

00:00:30.000 The Liberals' gun control legislation, Bill C-71, has passed the House of Commons and it's already on its second reading in the Senate.

00:00:45.660 And this bill, it's ugly.

00:00:48.960 It repeals Stephen Harper's easing of restrictions on authorizations to transport for restricted firearms.

00:00:56.680 It randomly reclassifies popular and very expensive Canadian rifles from non-restricted to completely prohibited.

00:01:06.060 Apropos of nothing, the law is absurd and draconian and unnecessary and it focuses government and police resources at one of the most law-abiding and peaceful segments of the whole Canadian population.

00:01:19.980 And it is not over yet.

00:01:22.160 Canada's so-called Minister of Gangs and Borders, Bill Blair.

00:01:25.360 Remember him? He's the former Toronto police chief who set in motion the conditions that have led to the eruption of gun violence in Toronto over the past three years?

00:01:34.560 Well, he has his sights set now on a full handgun ban across the country.

00:01:39.760 Bill Blair is currently heading consultations that are supposed to be wrapped up by the end of 2018.

00:01:46.340 These liberal gun-grabbing policies are proceeding at a breakneck pace.

00:01:52.660 So joining me on my show tonight is one of Canada's greatest advocates for Canadian firearms owners.

00:01:59.160 He fights for your rights when you are too busy to.

00:02:02.960 And he keeps tabs on the people who've got their eyes on your guns.

00:02:07.480 My special guest tonight is a good friend of the show, Tony Bernardo from the Canadian Shooting Sports Association.

00:02:14.340 Hey Tony, thanks so much for joining me.

00:02:34.540 I wanted to have you on because you are such a strong advocate for Canadian gun owners.

00:02:39.300 And we just saw the Liberals' latest gun control legislation, Bill C-71, amble its way through the House of Commons.

00:02:48.520 And I think this is terrible, terrible news for Canadian gun owners.

00:02:52.320 This is a dark day for us.

00:02:54.340 Can you fill us in on some of the worst things in that bill?

00:02:58.440 Because there is a whole pile of it.

00:03:01.440 Yeah, there is.

00:03:02.160 And I think the worst thing in the whole bill is the basic premise of it, that they appear to be doing something by piling regulation on top of people who are not breaking the law in the first place.

00:03:18.660 Just using 2 million Canadians, 2.1 million Canadians that own firearms, as political footballs, just so they can try to prove something to their base.

00:03:30.200 That's just so disingenuous, it makes me ill.

00:03:34.060 You know, and there's, I mean, it's not even a good bill if you were a gun grabber.

00:03:39.240 Like, the bill is all around bad because it's taking guns, in particular the CZ858 and the Swiss Arms Green Carbine, it's taking guns that were not required to be registered and moving them directly over into prohibited with no studies or anything being done on these guns.

00:03:56.340 Just sort of willy-nilly.

00:03:57.900 We don't like the colour.

00:03:58.820 We don't like how easy and cheaply they are to customise to be a little more fun.

00:04:03.000 But if you're a gun grabber, this is a very ineffective way to get those two particular guns out of the hands of people because they weren't registered.

00:04:13.440 So you don't know who has them, you don't know where they are.

00:04:15.880 Right, and of course the real end result of this will be to drive those firearms underground because people legally own them, they legally acquired them.

00:04:27.080 And they just look at this as, hey, look, I'm not breaking the law, I'm not doing anything bad with this, and, you know, like, what business is it of the RCMPs?

00:04:37.820 And that's really what it comes down to.

00:04:40.100 All they're doing is taking ordinary Canadians and just setting them up to be victims again. 0.96

00:04:45.980 People are so sick of this, Sheila.

00:04:47.820 Well, and, you know, our friends over at the Gun Blog, they did a very comprehensive, but as you and I were talking earlier, pretty conservative study about what the confiscation or rendering semi-automatics and handguns illegal in Canada would do to the wealth of Canadian gun owners.

00:05:09.820 Their numbers say it would basically liquidate about $2 billion in assets, but like you, I think it's far greater.

00:05:17.820 Yeah, we estimated about $4 billion.

00:05:21.680 Now, you know, the thing is, is that if they take the guns to effectively solve whatever problem they think they have, they're going to have to pay compensation for those firearms.

00:05:34.720 And not just the firearms, the magazines, the ammunition, the reloading equipment, all the things that go along with making those firearms perk.

00:05:44.440 This is precedent that's been established in Britain and in Australia when they did their gun seizures.

00:05:51.520 Also, in Canadian common law, anytime the government's taken the firearms, they pay compensation for them.

00:05:57.180 So, if they're going to take them, they're going to pay out about $4 billion of Canadian tax money to people who are not committing crimes anyway.

00:06:08.480 If they don't take them, how can they profess to say they solve their problem, since they state their problem is that criminals are getting them by stealing them from Canadian gun owners?

00:06:21.700 Well, they're not going to take the guns out of the hands of the Canadian gun owners, so how the hell does that solve their problem?

00:06:27.240 Yeah, isn't that true? Now, on Bill C-71, of course, I was looking through some of the notes, and Justin Trudeau did not vote.

00:06:37.060 He was not in the House of Commons, but he's not a particularly hardworking individual, and that doesn't really surprise me anyway, that he wasn't at work that day.

00:06:45.340 But there was somebody missing from that vote that I think should have been there.

00:06:50.220 And that would be...

00:06:53.980 Well, I think you and I both know...

00:06:55.760 Mr. Bernier?

00:06:57.680 Yes, Mr. Bernier wasn't there, and he's trying to set himself apart, and I'm giving Mr. Bernier, you know, as much benefit of the doubt that I can.

00:07:07.740 He courted gun owners when he was running for the leader of the Conservative Party.

00:07:11.940 He promised us that he would make Canada much more freer for us, and would fight for us, and he wasn't in the House of Commons to vote against Bill C-71.

00:07:22.260 And I think, even if it's a losing proposition, he should have been there to stand on principle.

00:07:27.340 Well, totally. I mean, look, when the thing went forward in the House of Commons, everybody knew what the foregone conclusion was.

00:07:33.860 The Liberals have a huge majority that they can use.

00:07:36.500 But Andrew Scheer was in the House, and he was there supporting the firearms owners of Canada.

00:07:42.760 You know, I have no doubt that Mr. Bernier's heart would be in this, but that's not enough.

00:07:51.380 You know, and quite frankly, the divisive politics that he's playing will only guarantee that we get another four years of Justin Trudeau.

00:08:00.460 You know, I think that gun owners in Canada have, over the last 25 or 30 years, become politically smart enough to recognize that splitting the right is a suicide record here.

00:08:15.520 Let's not do that, folks.

00:08:17.460 Let's keep our eggs in one basket and make sure that we get the Liberals out of power. 1.00

00:08:23.100 You know, from your lips to God's ears.

00:08:27.080 Now, there's something else that will be coming back in Bill C-71, and that is the requirement to make that phone call to the CFO if I want to take my handgun to the range.

00:08:39.680 This is, you know, if I didn't know better, I would think that this is Justin Trudeau's job creation strategy.

00:08:46.740 Yeah, you'd think so. 0.98

00:08:50.120 You'd think so, but it's a pretty dumb job creation strategy.

00:08:53.480 And, of course, the confusing thing is this doesn't apply to all authorizations to transport.

00:08:59.380 It's only certain ones.

00:09:00.940 So, like, the target shooting authorization to transport, which is by far the biggest of the bunch, allows you to take your restricted firearms and certain prohibited firearms to any shooting range in your province of residence 24-7.

00:09:20.000 So, if you live in Ontario and you live in Cornwall and you want to shoot a match in Kenora, it's going to take you two days to drive there, two days to drive back.

00:09:32.780 You're going to stay for a couple of days in hotels while you're there.

00:09:36.080 And, of course, you know, you've got to stop and sleep and eat as you go to and from Kenora.

00:09:41.400 So, it's going to take you a week.

00:09:43.360 And you have that permit to do that now.

00:09:47.160 And they're not going to take away that one.

00:09:49.040 The one they're going to take away from you is that if your gun is broken and you have to go across the road to the gunsmith, you're going to need a special permit to that.

00:09:59.360 Even though when you get to the gunsmith, he has to sign your firearm into his business inventory in order to work on the firearm.

00:10:08.860 So, there's a paper record there already.

00:10:12.360 It's just busy work.

00:10:14.200 For me, some of it seems like a prohibition through inconvenience where people are interested in getting their restricted license who may just have their regular pal are saying, you know what, maybe not.

00:10:28.140 It's just not worth the hassle.

00:10:30.600 And I think there's – I'm seeing at least some of that where people just say, you know what, I might just get out of my handguns altogether because it seems like, you know, it's just too much of a hassle.

00:10:41.720 Yeah, and you know, one of the ones they took away was the one to take you from your place of residence to a border crossing to enter the United States with your firearms.

00:10:53.080 I don't know if you've ever done this, but I've done this lots of times, going to the U.S. with firearms for whatever reasons.

00:11:01.700 And I can tell you that if you tried to do this without your paperwork, your U.S. paperwork, you're in for the worst two days of your life.

00:11:12.980 Yeah.

00:11:13.560 Because that's how long it's going to take them to sort out that you're not John Dillinger.

00:11:17.840 Oh, my goodness.

00:11:19.080 And so now it's like that's not sufficient.

00:11:23.400 It's not sufficient to go to the border with a stack of U.S. paperwork this thick.

00:11:28.800 You now have to have one more permit from the Canadian government.

00:11:34.120 Oh, what a mess. 1.00

00:11:36.100 It's like the stupidest stuff you've ever seen. 1.00

00:11:39.600 And C-71 is a basket of stupid stuff. 1.00

00:11:44.320 The whole bill is a basket of stupid stuff. 1.00

00:11:47.540 They profess that this is going to somehow cut down on gang crime, and crime and gangs are not even mentioned in the bill. 0.99

00:11:58.140 It is strictly paperwork and, of course, the gun bans on the CZ-858 and the Swiss arms rifles, both of which are very high quality, relatively expensive firearms, especially the Swiss arms gun.

00:12:13.260 And that's a very expensive gun.

00:12:15.060 And the people who are out buying these guns, these are target shooters.

00:12:20.800 Yeah, they're collectors.

00:12:22.440 Yeah, they're collectors.

00:12:23.920 Yeah, they're people with a serious interest in the mechanics of firearms because they are beautifully manufactured guns.

00:12:31.720 Oh, yeah.

00:12:32.360 Yeah, they are.

00:12:32.940 I wanted to talk to you a little bit about a study that I read that was done on the people of Saskatchewan.

00:12:39.760 They were polled, and about 50% of the people in Saskatchewan said gun laws are pretty good just the way they are.

00:12:48.800 And another, I think it was 9% or so, nine wise people said, no, they're too strict.

00:12:56.140 And about 40% of people in Saskatchewan say that they would like to see gun laws tightened up.

00:13:06.380 Now, I actually don't think that those 40% of people actually want gun laws tightened up because I don't think they actually know what the gun laws are.

00:13:16.020 I think that there's a real problem with a lack of information in the general population.

00:13:23.240 And if you paid attention to the mainstream media, you'd think you could just wander wherever you wanted with a handgun.

00:13:28.700 Just walking around with a pistol on my hip at the grocery store, which is a personal dream of mine.

00:13:34.460 But, you know, I think there's a real problem with communicating what the laws really are.

00:13:41.180 Yeah, well, that's the whole problem here is communicating what Canada's gun laws are, all 140 pages of them, is a Herculean task that nobody's got the patience to sit through that.

00:13:58.480 It's amazing that not only do gun owners have to know those laws, they have to comply with them to the letter or they put you in jail.

00:14:08.620 But the police don't know them.

00:14:12.160 The only people within the police force that are even moderately versed on the gun laws are the area firearms officers that are assigned to each unit of policing.

00:14:25.400 And when the average street copper has a question about that, they go to them.

00:14:29.980 However, the crowns don't know what the law is.

00:14:33.700 The judges don't know what the law is.

00:14:36.460 What we have here, Sheila, is a law that's so complicated that Canadians can't understand it.

00:14:43.340 This is wrong.

00:14:44.520 Because in a democracy, you should be able to understand the laws you're expected to abide by.

00:14:49.920 You know, that's a fantastic point.

00:14:51.560 There's something else in Bill C-71 that I found.

00:14:55.000 I don't like to say the word offensive because offensive sounds like I can't control my own feelings.

00:14:59.160 But it makes me really angry because it speaks to that treatment of law-abiding gun owners as scapegoats for larger crime organizations.

00:15:10.860 They want to examine, before you can get your gun license, your entire life history, including your mental health history.

00:15:19.700 When right now, it only goes back five years.

00:15:22.300 And I think five years is adequate.

00:15:24.520 But why I resent this is because the Canadian legal system, and in particular the liberals, especially with this McClintic stuff right now,

00:15:35.280 it seems like they treat criminals with this idea that they are always, always capable of rehabilitation and life change.

00:15:44.100 And sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't, they're criminals, you know, they're known for lying to you.

00:15:49.580 But they don't treat gun owners like we can make life changes, that we can address our mental health issues,

00:15:56.500 that we can address our life problems, that we can get our lives back on track if we were plagued with divorce or some other problem in our life.

00:16:07.380 That's the problem I have with that provision in C-71.

00:16:12.080 One, it treats gun owners like they're this part of the Canadian population that is beyond some sort of personal growth or redemption.

00:16:20.700 Right. And then, let's add this.

00:16:23.580 Okay.

00:16:24.740 You've got the RCMP and the Liberal Party who have designed this intrusive, draconian gun control system

00:16:33.880 that is supposed to check every single person, every single day.

00:16:38.920 That's the Continuous Eligibility Program. 0.72

00:16:42.080 And the reason we're doing this is so that we make sure that criminals don't sprout up from within the community.

00:16:51.100 But when one does, why doesn't anybody say, 1.00

00:16:55.740 hey, stupid, your gun control program doesn't work? 1.00

00:16:59.760 Yeah. 1.00

00:17:00.800 They never say that.

00:17:02.180 It's always, oh, it's the gun owner's fault.

00:17:04.540 Right.

00:17:04.820 Well, wait a minute.

00:17:05.300 The RCMP gave you the license.

00:17:08.360 The RCMP checks you every single day.

00:17:12.400 Every time you do a transfer of a restricted or prohibited gun, you're checked again,

00:17:18.380 even though that might be your second time that day.

00:17:21.800 And guess what?

00:17:23.300 Criminals still happen once in a while.

00:17:25.200 Now, in our community, that's very rare.

00:17:28.860 And it's rare enough to be remarkable.

00:17:32.840 And that speaks more to our character than it does to the foolish system of gun control that we've got in this country.

00:17:41.660 What we really need to do is simplify this thing down so that everybody, including police and judges and lawyers,

00:17:49.200 can actually understand this thing.

00:17:51.740 It needs to be dumbed down. 0.91

00:17:53.120 I completely agree.

00:17:55.180 I'm all for repealing government regulations and making them easier for people to follow, just like the tax code.

00:18:02.000 There's just too many bootstrap tax credits.

00:18:05.180 You had to go there.

00:18:06.640 Yeah.

00:18:06.920 Give me a flat rate and I'll pay it.

00:18:09.580 Now, I wanted to talk to you about how going forward, we're seeing these consultations that are happening so fast.

00:18:18.400 They need to be wrapped up by the end of the year to discuss a full handgun ban with the possibility of a full semi-automatic ban across the country.

00:18:31.860 And Bill Blair, the minister of nothing, is going around holding sham consultations.

00:18:38.080 I'll call them a sham.

00:18:39.080 I've said that they are a solution.

00:18:41.800 They're a solution in search of a problem.

00:18:43.680 And by God, he's going to find it.

00:18:45.220 But they're not going the way the liberals thought these consultations would go.

00:18:50.880 They're meeting opposition, which is fantastic.

00:18:54.340 Well, yeah.

00:18:55.120 But, you know, back in the day when they passed the Firearms Act, the Bill C-68, they did exactly the same thing.

00:19:01.560 Alan Rock went around all over the country doing these sham consultations.

00:19:07.000 And I was there, you know, I was part of those demonstrations of protests by the community.

00:19:14.080 And I'm telling you, he got cooked.

00:19:16.860 The reception that Alan Rock got made Bill Blair's look like a kid's party or something like that, you know.

00:19:23.920 But they didn't care because they never intended to listen to you anyway.

00:19:28.400 The consultation is a show.

00:19:30.220 It's bull.

00:19:31.040 It's complete bull.

00:19:32.300 So if they're not listening to us, who are they listening to?

00:19:34.640 That's a really good question because they say they're only listening to their experts.

00:19:41.700 And, of course, from the election of the Trudeau government, they maintained that their experts were the police.

00:19:48.880 But here we have the commissioner of the RCMP, former commissioner of the OPP, president of the Toronto Police Association, the Peel Police Association, et cetera, et cetera, Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police. 0.79

00:20:02.880 And every one of them has said the gun ban is a dumb idea and it won't solve the problem. 0.68

00:20:08.300 Well, you know what? 0.62

00:20:09.660 I was going to say they haven't included you in the consultations either.

00:20:12.600 No, at all.

00:20:13.300 I would consider you an expert.

00:20:15.360 Well, you know, when you look at the Canadian Firearms Advisory Committee, you've got a whole lot of experts on gun control.

00:20:23.240 You don't have very many experts on guns.

00:20:25.800 You know, as a matter of fact, there's no one represented on that committee from any of the large firearms organizations.

00:20:33.820 There are a list of people that I could provide to them who are technical experts on firearms, people who have been doing this for a long, long time.

00:20:43.380 And they're not interested in having those people on there.

00:20:46.160 What they have is they have a bunch of gun control activists on the committee, and that's all they are.

00:20:52.940 I was reading an article.

00:20:55.160 I think it was on the gun blog, but it could have been on the Canadian Shooting Sports Association website.

00:21:01.840 And they were talking about how badly one of these town hall meetings went.

00:21:05.560 And they had this criminologist.

00:21:07.060 I think he was from the University of Toronto.

00:21:08.620 His name is Scott Wortley.

00:21:10.480 And he was, again, repeating this false allegation about how a lot of these crime guns are coming from the hands of legal gun owners. 0.98

00:21:22.580 And someone confronted him on that statistic, which we now know is garbage. 0.98

00:21:27.740 Sure it is. 0.97

00:21:28.680 But he actually said the young men, he used the word young men instead of gangbangers and gangsters,

00:21:36.620 that he had spoken to in the course of his criminology endeavors.

00:21:42.660 He said that they told him that they got their guns from legal gun owners, and he doesn't see why they would have any reason to lie to him.

00:21:52.480 And, you know, you wouldn't want to, you have no reason not to rat on your gangster friends or anything.

00:21:59.980 And, you know, when these are the experts that they're considering, it's really no wonder they can't get the gang problem sorted out in Toronto.

00:22:08.720 Really. 1.00

00:22:10.520 How ridiculous does this have to get when somebody who's supposed to be an expert says something that remarkably stupid? 1.00

00:22:21.260 Yeah. 1.00

00:22:22.260 They have no reason to lie.

00:22:24.680 Yeah, sure.

00:22:25.360 Okay.

00:22:25.800 Yeah.

00:22:26.620 Well, criminals don't lie, Tony.

00:22:28.400 They're the most stressful people, you know.

00:22:31.560 I mean, and then Bill Blair, as late as a week ago, he's still spouting that completely debunked statistic about the majority of guns in Toronto coming through the hands of legal gun owners.

00:22:47.040 Even the stuff we got out of Toronto that Dennis Young got a couple of weeks ago, you know, wonderful stats.

00:22:54.200 It's showing 9.2% of the firearms came that were ever in the registry system, ever in the registry system.

00:23:03.540 These are the guns that enter into Canada legally, 9.2%.

00:23:07.680 Interesting, though, because his stats also showed 18.6% of the guns originated in Canada.

00:23:17.500 Now, if they originated in Canada, but they've never been in the registry system, that means they came from the police or the military.

00:23:26.180 So, 9.4% come from the police and military, and 9.2% come from civilian gun owners.

00:23:34.820 And do you want me to tell you something else that's also true?

00:23:37.580 Sure.

00:23:37.900 A civilian, Canadian civilian firearms owner is half as likely to commit a violent crime as a non-firearms owner and one-third as likely to commit a violent crime as a Canadian police officer.

00:23:59.240 What do you think of that?

00:24:01.000 That is shocking, but unsurprising.

00:24:06.860 Unsurprising.

00:24:08.040 Unsurprising.

00:24:08.920 I think Canadian gun owners have almost a religious commitment to following the law and knowing the law.

00:24:18.180 Because, like you say, you never know when the law is going to change.

00:24:20.600 You never know when you're going to end up on the wrong side of a registration.

00:24:24.640 You are constantly scrutinized by the police every single day, including Christmas Day.

00:24:30.660 You don't even get a day off from scrutiny.

00:24:33.260 So, that doesn't surprise me.

00:24:35.640 It doesn't surprise me.

00:24:36.400 And it doesn't surprise me also because of the amount of money we have invested in our ownership of firearms.

00:24:42.680 Now, here's another one.

00:24:44.460 If we're so dangerous, how come when they prohibit firearms, like the Section 12 firearms that are in the Firearms Act, they didn't take them?

00:24:53.360 They just grandfathered everybody and let you keep them.

00:24:56.340 Yeah.

00:24:56.640 They just stopped new ones coming in the country.

00:24:58.880 So, if we're so dangerous, how come we still get to have them?

00:25:01.900 And if we're so dangerous, how come these ministers that go to these town hall meetings, they don't come in there with bodyguards?

00:25:14.060 They're not in any danger and they know they're not in any danger.

00:25:17.480 They know our community is the most peaceful community in the entire country.

00:25:23.040 They know this.

00:25:24.920 Now, Tony, you're not done fighting back on Bill C-71.

00:25:29.000 And I think this is a great spot to leave our interview.

00:25:32.100 You have a letter-writing campaign.

00:25:34.540 So, I thought I'd give you a chance to tell our viewership about that.

00:25:39.200 So that, you know, you're fighting every day when the rest of us don't have time to fight for our own rights.

00:25:44.720 But you also need some help from the rest of us to make sure that our voices are heard.

00:25:49.500 Sure, we absolutely do.

00:25:51.100 And, you know, this is a big thing right now.

00:25:54.960 You know, C-71 is bad stuff.

00:25:58.340 We're putting out a document in the next day or so that everybody should be getting on how to contact your senators and what to say and stuff like that.

00:26:08.140 But there's also the NoC71.ca, which is a CSSA website.

00:26:14.720 And you can go on there and get all your talking points for your letters.

00:26:19.080 And then we've got NoGunBan.ca, which is something that anybody can go on to and get form letters down there to the senators and to the MPs in regards to the gun ban.

00:26:32.400 Now, remember, the gun ban is a different issue than C-71.

00:26:35.680 C-71 is real legislation.

00:26:38.700 It's already cleared through the House of Commons and is now cleared second reading in the Senate.

00:26:43.960 So it's going into its committee phase now.

00:26:46.960 No timetable set for that yet, but, you know, we'll keep people informed.

00:26:50.880 In the meantime, contact your senators and tell them that C-71 is lousy legislation.

00:26:56.320 It's one more fun anecdote for you, Sheila.

00:26:59.320 I know you're like this.

00:27:00.200 I was doing a live television show with Wendy Suckier from the Coalition for Gun Control.

00:27:06.680 And I said to the interviewer, this bill has actually made Wendy and I agree on something.

00:27:14.920 And he says, what's that?

00:27:16.220 And I said, well, we think it's really lousy legislation.

00:27:19.840 And so does Wendy.

00:27:20.840 Right, Wendy?

00:27:21.300 I said, yeah.

00:27:24.120 And she says it hasn't made anybody happy.

00:27:26.160 Everyone hates it.

00:27:27.260 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:28.740 That's great.

00:27:30.920 It's so bad that it united you with the other side. 0.98

00:27:35.920 Yeah.

00:27:36.600 You know it's bad when.

00:27:38.340 Yeah.

00:27:39.140 Now, Tony.

00:27:39.860 In the meantime, folks need to get, they need to get motivated here.

00:27:43.540 They need to send those letters in.

00:27:45.800 Join the association, cssa-cila.org.

00:27:50.640 You can get it joined right online.

00:27:52.320 You can phone us up on our 1-800 number and we'll take care of you by phone.

00:27:57.560 But you need to join the association.

00:27:59.620 You need to donate money.

00:28:00.900 I know everybody's after you for that.

00:28:02.840 But hey, if you want to hang on to your guns, you've got to help us here, you know.

00:28:06.560 Well, that was exactly what I was going to ask you about next is how people can actually support you as you support us in our rights.

00:28:13.660 So I'm glad that you beat me to it there.

00:28:16.460 Tony, I want to thank you so much for taking the time out of your day.

00:28:19.480 Like I said, you're out there fighting for my rights because I don't have the time to do it.

00:28:23.180 I am.

00:28:23.620 So thanks for letting us know what you're doing for us and we'll talk again, I'm sure.

00:28:30.860 Thank you very much, Sheila.

00:28:32.080 I appreciate it.

00:28:33.120 Thanks, Tony.

00:28:34.160 Bye-bye.

00:28:43.660 The fight against Bill C-71 isn't over yet.

00:28:50.420 Like Tony explained, it's headed for a Senate committee where changes could be made to make this horrendous law a little better if your senators are willing to do it.

00:29:00.420 But also, like Tony said, the senators need to hear from you.

00:29:05.000 They need to know what you think about your government scapegoating Canadian gun owners for the lawlessness happening in urban centers like Toronto.

00:29:15.020 Instead of hassling farmers and target shooters over their semi-automatic .22s, it's time to focus on gang intelligence and border security.

00:29:23.140 Any time and resources spent hassling the law-abiding are wasted resources and the criminals laugh.

00:29:29.380 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:29:31.500 Thanks so much for tuning in.

00:29:33.160 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.

00:29:36.820 And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:29:59.380 Thanks so much for this work

00:30:08.900 Even next week, you will hear from me you move on my side.

00:30:16.820 So, it's

Rebel News Podcast - October 03, 2018

Fighting Liberal Bill C-71 - worst attack on Canadian firearms owners in a generation (Guest： Tony Bernardo, CSSA)

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