Rebel News Podcast - Global Warning (2019)： Interview with film director Mathew Embry

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00:01:38.560 A Calgary-based filmmaker exposes climate and energy realities that powerful forces in the world

00:01:45.400 may not want you to see. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:01:50.200 There is absolutely no basis in fact or science against Canadian oil over other oil.

00:02:14.960 What is Canada's future in an age of climate change, reconciliation with Indigenous peoples,

00:02:19.680 and mistrust of public institutions? 0.92

00:02:23.400 What would you do if you had the government by the balls?

00:02:26.660 If it doesn't get resolved, I don't know that the country can survive. 0.96

00:02:31.380 I'm here to tell you that the three top officials from the UN are part of this con.

00:02:37.720 It's a hoax, and they like the hoax because it brings in all kind of money.

00:02:42.540 Now that's a clip from the trailer for the Canadian-made film Global Warning.

00:02:48.880 It's been nominated for six Alberta Film and Television Awards, including Best Documentary,

00:02:54.560 and it deals how the politics surrounding climate are taking the world down a dangerous path.

00:03:02.260 It appears that Canada, and specifically Alberta, is ground zero for what can happen when international climate politics

00:03:10.080 meet the traditional energy industry as we know it, and then malign it.

00:03:15.920 The film strives to tell the other side of this story with exclusive access to both sides of the climate debate.

00:03:22.540 And, of course, it features the emotional leave-it-in-the-ground environmentalist side of the debate

00:03:27.960 from their safe perch at the United Nations, and it also showcases the boots-on-the-ground energy workers

00:03:35.380 who are paying the steep cost of being simply collateral damage in the global war on Canadian oil and gas.

00:03:43.960 The film also has many familiar faces in it, like Dr. Patrick Moore and Tim Ball and even Danielle Smith,

00:03:50.800 and I think it strived to humanize the energy industry.

00:03:55.420 Now, clearly, this is the film that you would think most Albertans would already know about.

00:04:01.720 However, it was released in October 2019 to almost no attention or fanfare at all,

00:04:09.020 and I think that's because the film sought to provide balance instead of the old, tried-and-true climate hysteria.

00:04:17.360 So now, nearly 14 months after the release of the film, I'm trying to right that wrong,

00:04:23.020 and I'm introducing you to the film and one of the filmmakers behind it, behind the film Global Warning.

00:04:30.740 His name is Matthew Embry. He joins me tonight in an interview we recorded yesterday afternoon.

00:04:39.020 So joining me now from his home in Calgary is filmmaker Matthew Embry.

00:04:57.260 He is the producer, writer, and filmmaker behind a documentary that, to not on my radar sooner,

00:05:05.820 it's called Global Warning. Matthew, thanks for joining me.

00:05:12.380 Let's sort of introduce you to everybody.

00:05:16.620 Now, you've made this documentary, Global Warning, but you're not new to the documentary filmmaker game.

00:05:24.920 In fact, you've done some work that probably a lot of Canadians, particularly here in Western Canada,

00:05:30.700 have seen and have appreciated, and you've been nominated for several awards.

00:05:37.340 Yeah, I've been very blessed to have a great career here out of Calgary, Alberta.

00:05:44.140 I've been able to direct some great documentaries on people like Jan Arden, Ian Tyson,

00:05:49.640 co-directed a project on Theo Fleury.

00:05:51.800 And then the last one, you know, prior to this was Living Proof, which is distributed globally on Amazon Prime all over the world

00:06:02.060 and had its opening at the Toronto International Film Festival, and now Global Warning.

00:06:06.740 Now, tell me a little bit about, and I don't want to give away the cow, you know, I don't want to give away the milk

00:06:17.300 when we want people to buy the whole cow.

00:06:19.920 Why don't you tell us a little bit about the documentary itself?

00:06:24.660 Because you really did get some unprecedented access, and we'll talk about that.

00:06:29.920 But what is the synopsis of the movie itself?

00:06:33.220 Yeah, so what we wanted to do is, you know, I'm from Calgary, born and raised.

00:06:38.620 And I wanted to, you know, I wanted to talk about, make a film that was exploring some of the issues

00:06:45.180 in the oil and gas industry that I saw happening.

00:06:47.960 This goes all the way back to 2008, maybe 2007, when I started to recognize that, you know,

00:06:55.340 the media was portraying, international media as well, portraying the Canadian oil and gas industry in a certain way.

00:07:01.260 And I, you know, I had done some work up there previously as a director.

00:07:06.480 I worked on a project for Fort Hills, as well as I worked with the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers.

00:07:12.060 So I had some on-the-ground experience as a filmmaker working there.

00:07:16.260 And I was seeing things that I wasn't seeing represented in the media,

00:07:19.400 and I was seeing things that I thought the average person should be aware of.

00:07:23.720 And I started that journey to try to tell that story and get that film made that long ago.

00:07:30.780 It was an uphill battle until the executive producer, Peter Brick, came to the table.

00:07:37.520 I met him, and he was able to get some funding and then Super Channel, you know, taking,

00:07:43.560 making a brave choice to take the film and now broadcasting it across Canada.

00:07:47.980 You know, that you make a really good point when you say it is a brave choice,

00:07:52.220 because you really are sort of swimming against the current here being,

00:07:57.960 I don't even know how you would describe yourself as pro-oil sands or pro-oil and gas or pro-fossil fuel,

00:08:05.360 but just giving a balanced view of the oil and gas development here in Canada,

00:08:11.420 that's not a popular thing, particularly in entertainment.

00:08:15.480 Have you experienced some pushback from your, I guess, peers and colleagues in the entertainment industry?

00:08:23.520 Well, I think, you know, not like face-to-face that that hasn't happened,

00:08:27.480 but certainly what's been very, very strange on this project,

00:08:31.280 and again, I don't necessarily consider myself pro or against oil and gas.

00:08:36.600 I see myself as a person who's pro-human,

00:08:39.600 and I understand that human beings need energy and the best case scenario,

00:08:45.980 cheap and efficient energy to, you know, for human life to flourish.

00:08:51.560 And I think this is where I kind of like wanted to explore.

00:08:55.740 Now, the pushback and surprise that I have had was the lack of media attention around this project.

00:09:04.420 I mean, we have some very big names that were being interviewed.

00:09:08.880 We shot more or less, you know, in multiple countries internationally with some of the top experts in the world.

00:09:16.340 I mean, this is a big movie to come out of Calgary, right?

00:09:20.620 Yeah.

00:09:21.460 But that's fantastic.

00:09:23.140 I believe in Calgary to be able to be an international hub of content creators.

00:09:27.460 But I also am shocked that we, I've had so little, we as a team have had so little attention paid to the film

00:09:35.160 and some of the things that we talk about.

00:09:38.120 I mean, I think you, this interview is maybe the third or fourth, you know, maybe interview I've had.

00:09:46.140 And that, again, if we look at the legacy of the other films that I've been, you know, really lucky to be a part of,

00:09:51.620 it's certainly an anomaly.

00:09:53.680 You know, that's a real shame.

00:09:55.000 Um, and the video or the film did come out in October 20th, the lead up to the federal election

00:10:04.640 when the media and Justin Trudeau's liberals wanted us to believe that, you know, climate change was the top issue of the election.

00:10:13.660 Um, I really don't think it was.

00:10:15.220 Statistics say it wasn't.

00:10:16.400 Polling says it wasn't.

00:10:17.260 But that, you were sort of the counterbalance to that and you were completely ignored, uh, by the mainstream media, by all media.

00:10:26.160 I mean, we, we totally missed the boat on that too.

00:10:28.980 Um, now this film has been nominated for six Alberta Film and Television Awards, including Best Documentary.

00:10:36.180 You would think that this would be, um, you know, something that's shouted from the rooftops.

00:10:41.920 This homegrown filmmaker, um, doing wonderful things to tell the story of the industry, but even the industry isn't talking about this film.

00:10:50.560 It is really weird.

00:10:52.020 I mean, and what I find really strange too is, you know, I have a reputation, I guess.

00:10:58.040 I'm trying my absolute best.

00:10:59.220 I mean, I'm a social activist filmmaker, uh, but the film, you know, my biggest hit, I guess, you know, our biggest hit as a team.

00:11:06.440 And I was able to, you know, to direct was about deconstructing, you know, going after problems around big pharma and some of the, how charities are set up.

00:11:15.700 Uh, I directed, uh, a project on the opioid crisis.

00:11:19.360 Um, my last one is on cyberbullying with Amanda Todd's mother, Carol Todd.

00:11:24.060 I have one on concussions coming out.

00:11:26.240 Um, you know, I really try to make projects that affect change in a positive way, uh, to recognize, to recognize a problem, but also to give people a real world solution.

00:11:36.100 And I think that's, you know, that's why I commit to certain projects and it's no different with this one.

00:11:42.440 Yeah.

00:11:42.880 And I, I'm hoping that people watch it to see that, you know, it's, again, what I find so challenging, this conversation has become so polarizing.

00:11:52.900 And I think that's where I'm trying to walk that line in this, in this project to say, okay, there are two very opposing, strong opposing voices right now.

00:12:01.400 This isn't going to work.

00:12:02.440 We need to sit at the table and discuss how we're going to move forward properly, both nationally and internationally.

00:12:10.060 You know, and that's one of the things that I noticed in the film was, and I think this probably goes back to your sort of, sort of social activism filmmaking, is you talk about the real world implications for the normals of the world.

00:12:29.000 Um, not having access to cheap, reliable energy.

00:12:35.000 When you flip the switch on, you talk about the human cost of it.

00:12:38.420 And I think one of the most compelling parts of that is when you, uh, Danielle Smith is talking about the layoffs that are happening in the industry because of lack of market access, because projects aren't going ahead.

00:12:55.020 And she's choking back tears as someone is telling her about, you know, having to lay off 25% of their workforce.

00:13:02.980 And you, you go out of your way in this film to humanize what these attacks on oil and gas really mean to the people who are working within the industry.

00:13:14.180 Not, you know, the CEOs who are going to be fine, but the normal people.

00:13:17.940 Um, yeah, and we, we really tried to do that because I think for the average person, me included, you know, I'm no different.

00:13:25.240 Um, it's hard to get a sense of the human story here.

00:13:28.700 When you were bombarded with number of jobs, amount of dollars that are lost, you know, transfer payments.

00:13:33.720 It's very confusing for the average person and it can become to the point where you just want to shut it off.

00:13:39.080 Um, and I think that what we, we tried to do in the movie is say, okay, look, these numbers, these things you're hearing have real life impacts on people.

00:13:47.080 And this is what is happening in Canada.

00:13:49.840 Um, we are Canadians.

00:13:51.440 Uh, I understand that, you know, we are, we are in the West, but that doesn't necessarily matter.

00:13:56.600 We are Canadians like anyone else.

00:13:58.140 We have the same country on our passports.

00:14:00.980 Uh, we're all in this together.

00:14:02.400 And I think that, you know, this is what's happening in Canada.

00:14:05.760 It's also important for people to understand what's going on in the rest of the world, uh, and to see that, you know, this is a global story, not just a national one.

00:14:13.600 You know, and that was one of the things that some of your, um, the people that you interview, um, like Patrick Moore, like, uh, Tim Ball, like Mark Morano.

00:14:23.480 Uh, I've, I've gone to UN climate change conferences with Mark Morano.

00:14:27.840 So that's something, um, but, um, you know, yeah.

00:14:32.640 Yeah, if you've talked to Mark, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

00:14:36.600 Um, but, uh, you know, Patrick Moore in particular, you know, he talks about how this is a sort of a war just on Canada, that everything else continues as normal in the rest of the world.

00:14:49.740 And this is a war, a foreign funded war that's happening in Canada.

00:14:55.740 And not a lot of people are talking about that.

00:14:59.000 Um, and, you know, you were critical, I think, um, of, you know, Jason Kenney's war room here in Canada, because it talks about stuff like transfer payments and, and, and that sort of inequity that we experience, um, as part of Confederation.

00:15:19.740 But again, that's sort of an abstract thing when you, when you really need to be talking about what this means, but what the personal cost is to so many people about landlocking oil and gas.

00:15:33.360 Yeah.

00:15:33.840 I mean, I think, I mean, I want to talk about, um, you know, I think, I think a concept of seeing the Alberta government and the working hard to put out a narrative, um, to try to change the narrative, I think is very important.

00:15:47.860 So I hope I'm not being considered critical of, of that.

00:15:51.540 What I am a little bit concerned about, and I, you know, I have spoken about this a bit is making the narrative too, um, simplistic.

00:16:00.040 Yeah.

00:16:00.480 Um, that it's, you know, it's us versus them. 0.96

00:16:03.600 Um, and in the case of, of some of the forum funded stuff, I think we have to point out these, these realities, but to also realize that it goes even deeper than that, that this goes beyond North American soil.

00:16:18.420 And I think that's where we tried to get this global perspective, go to Berlin, you know, go to Germany or sorry, go to bond, go to Germany, you know, meet the form, you know, the CEO of the wildlife federation or how, whatever his job was at that point, get his perspective.

00:16:34.400 See, this is, this is a big story and it's, you know, it involves the, the, the Russia and China, it's beyond just the U S and Canada.

00:16:43.280 Right. And I think that that's, again, we need as Canadians to be looking at this global perspective of what's shifting here.

00:16:50.620 And I think last year when the, I can't remember exactly, so please don't hold me to these facts, but the, I did a special presentation downtown, downtown Calgary.

00:17:00.280 And when I showed the movie, you know, afterwards, uh, it was, you know, oil and gas professionals were the, the audience.

00:17:06.820 I said, you know, how many people here know about this huge project in Russia that was approved last week?

00:17:13.280 And I brought up the, the news articles to show this enormous oil and gas project in Russia that got the green light and not even in Calgary, did people know the size of it, that, that this thing was being approved internationally.

00:17:25.760 So I think it's, again, it's, it's, it's fine to look at what's happening in Canada, but we also need to look what's happening in the rest of the world and understand the implications of those, uh, realities that are happening to us.

00:17:38.980 Sure. And I think sometimes we're even simplistic when we talk about the foreign funded attack on Canadian oil and gas, we think it's coming out of, you know, the Tides head office in San Francisco, but it's bigger than that.

00:17:53.700 Um, we know that Russia has funded some of the anti-fracking propaganda that we see, you know, attacking American energy independence.

00:18:03.700 And then as a trickle down effect, Canadian energy independence.

00:18:07.480 And I think people are really, as you point out, missing the global scope of everything that's going on.

00:18:14.580 And, you know, we, we look at San Francisco and we look at Tides and we, we see what they're doing and, you know, we live with the consequences of that every day, but we are really missing the big picture here.

00:18:24.100 And I thought that was great.

00:18:25.280 That was what your film tried to point out or at least put on people's radar.

00:18:29.560 Yeah. And also that it's not just Canada.

00:18:33.100 Yeah.

00:18:33.600 If you, if other countries, you know, start to stop their oil and gas or energy and oil and gas energy development, there's going to be consequences to those economies, to those countries, especially when other countries aren't doing that.

00:18:48.700 Yeah.

00:18:49.180 So, you know, it's, it's, you know, so you can, if you're Canada and I don't care where you are, if you start shutting down your, you know, major industry while other countries are, are, are growing it, you know, you got, you got, you got to watch out.

00:19:03.600 Now, in your film, you got, and I alluded to this earlier, unprecedented access.

00:19:09.120 Um, I, I, I, I, I work in media, so I know it's tough to get access to, you know, for example, CNRL gave you access.

00:19:18.900 Um, you were able to get access to the industry on the ground to show what a tailings pond looks like firsthand, as opposed to whatever in Canada is releasing as their press release and what's on their YouTube.

00:19:35.300 You, you, you saw it for yourself.

00:19:38.620 Why do you think the industry was so open with you when they've really been sort of controlled in the past?

00:19:47.040 I mean, that's a good question.

00:19:48.560 I mean, I think I also want to note on that.

00:19:50.420 We also had unprecedented access to Catherine Abreu.

00:19:53.960 So our, our access fell on both sides of the argument, um, of incredible access.

00:20:00.340 And that, that is a testament to Peter Bayek as a producer.

00:20:03.020 Uh, and I think it's also the, the testament to our team.

00:20:06.580 I mean, our team has got a legacy of, um, of being able to tell stories and, and be trusted in regards to how we try to, to reveal those truths.

00:20:17.040 Um, and then I think also relationships.

00:20:18.860 I mean, both Calgary, both Peter and I are from Calgary.

00:20:22.500 And so there are relationships that, that go on that, um, that no, no different than anything else to be able to get access to certain events.

00:20:30.720 Now, I suppose I have a question for you because I have been to UN climate change conferences.

00:20:39.300 I'm no longer allowed inside of them because I asked a prickly question one time to somebody that was in there.

00:20:44.760 And they're not used to people who are sort of skeptical of the whole taxes, change the weather, landlocked Canadian oil and gas agenda that comes out of these UN climate change conferences.

00:20:57.220 Um, how, what, I've always been curious about what goes on behind closed doors at these things.

00:21:05.560 And you were actually, I suppose, there behind closed doors.

00:21:08.200 Was there something there that was particularly surprising to you or is it exactly how I assume it is?

00:21:14.940 Um, you know, it's interesting.

00:21:17.760 The, hmm, that's a good question.

00:21:20.780 I mean, I think what we, what we, one thing we do in the film is we try to deconstruct, um, why there is such, say, trust or reliance on IPCC recommendations.

00:21:32.560 And in this movie, we, we tried our best to say, okay, hey, like, we understand this organization exists.

00:21:38.240 We understand they're giving advice, recommendations, but are they really an organization we should be betting on?

00:21:44.320 Or is this, or, or not questioning, right?

00:21:47.700 Like, why would we not question this?

00:21:49.720 Like any, like any other, um, any other organization?

00:21:53.280 Um, and I think that what I was surprised is that there, it's just a given that whatever comes out of the IPCC, like it's gospel.

00:22:02.840 And, you know, that's, um, I think that's, that can be really problematic if we, if we don't keep asking those hard questions of organizations that are trying to, especially enforce policy in our country.

00:22:14.820 Right, because so much of Canadian climate policy is built around the benchmarks of whatever the IPCC says is going to happen to us eventually someday, if all models work out.

00:22:29.260 Um, now you've been inside, um, behind closed doors with the policymakers.

00:22:37.360 I want to ask you, what are your predictions for the future?

00:22:41.960 Are things going to change and get better for us here in Alberta with regard to market access and the, the narrative around Canadian oil and gas, or is it just going to get worse?

00:22:53.860 It is all lost, I guess.

00:22:56.340 Yeah.

00:22:56.520 I mean, you asked a really good question.

00:22:58.160 I mean, that's really hard to know, you know, and I think that another thing we do explore in the documentary is the, the, the relationship also with First Nations communities across Canada.

00:23:09.200 And again, I think that that is another issue that is become, it's, it's a bit too simplistic in how we're seeing it in the media.

00:23:18.100 Um, and again, I don't want to blame, point fingers and blame anybody.

00:23:21.460 These are really complicated issues.

00:23:24.220 Um, and it's, again, it's not just an us versus them concept.

00:23:29.260 Again, and that's where I get frustrated.

00:23:31.380 I have this, this type of polarity.

00:23:33.100 The First Nations issue is in Canada is very complicated.

00:23:37.420 And I think it, it, that itself has poses many questions to how we're going to develop industry oil and gas or other industries as well.

00:23:45.760 Um, and I think that, you know, one thing we talked about is, okay, so oil and gas is the issue that really has brought, save some of the First Nations issues to, you know, um, I think.

00:23:54.840 But what about what huge wind farms?

00:23:56.360 What about huge solar farms?

00:23:57.420 Like, all in major industry is going to have to play by the same rules, no matter what it is.

00:24:03.440 And I think, again, these are important conversations for the future of Canada.

00:24:07.760 Um, and then again, I don't know where things go.

00:24:10.400 Um, I mean, at this stage.

00:24:13.560 Well, that's frightening.

00:24:16.560 Because you've really been in, inside where they're making the decisions.

00:24:20.880 And, um, I, I know, you know, the Alberta government is working hard to shift the narrative.

00:24:27.420 But I suppose the question remains, is it really working?

00:24:31.740 Are we telling the stories of, you know, the unemployment rates that is non-existent in Fort Mackay?

00:24:41.280 Are we, you know, talking about the wealth creation that's happening within the Mikasue, Cree, First Nation?

00:24:46.480 Um, I don't think, um, the pro-oil and gas side of the debate is as good at humanizing all of this the same way the anti-everything crowd is great at putting kids up front to tell stories about how they're worried that the world is going to end.

00:25:08.620 I mean, it's just such an emotionally charged debate.

00:25:12.780 And I think we're just getting run roughshod over.

00:25:16.480 Yeah, I mean, again, these are, you know, a lot of thought has gone into some of these ideas you're talking about.

00:25:23.500 Especially, especially for me over the past almost, you know, 12 years.

00:25:27.660 Having worked, you know, in the industry at certain times.

00:25:31.020 On the outside as a contractor.

00:25:32.740 But I still was able to see things.

00:25:34.900 But I think you're correct.

00:25:35.980 I mean, I think that we try to show that in the movie.

00:25:38.240 See how, say, the environmental activist side is very good at presenting images that would shock and horrify most people.

00:25:47.600 And if you play that moral high ground game, which I think is being played, as long as you have the moral high ground you win, that game can keep, you can do very well if you keep showing shocking images.

00:26:00.300 And I think that if you're going to show another side of this, then that has to also be revealed.

00:26:08.020 So, you know, key issues in regards to human lives being saved because of cheap energy with easy, efficient, easy access.

00:26:17.460 There are images that, you know, that we should be seeing.

00:26:22.020 What would happen if we didn't have that?

00:26:24.700 Well, there are certain territories in the world that, you know, you can go to right now to see what it's like to live in conditions where there isn't cheap, efficient energy.

00:26:35.560 And that would shock most Canadians.

00:26:37.540 And I think that a lot of Canadians live in a little bit of a bubble, not knowing how bad it can be to exist on this planet without that.

00:26:47.460 Well, sorry to interrupt you.

00:26:51.240 And it's not the tidy utopia that the other side of the debate wants to paint it as when you don't have access to cheap, reliable fossil fuels.

00:27:02.980 Well, what do you do for heat?

00:27:04.460 What do you do for cooking?

00:27:05.820 And there's no garbage pickup and things that the environmentalist movement attributes to us, the dirty air, the dirty rivers.

00:27:15.660 That's actually happening in places where they don't have access to cheap, reliable fossil fuels.

00:27:21.760 I agree.

00:27:22.900 And that's one of the pieces.

00:27:24.320 I mean, we wanted to go to Venezuela in this film to show that we couldn't get in because it was just we could.

00:27:30.040 But it was too dangerous at the time for us to go there to be able to show that side of here's what happens when you deindustrialize.

00:27:36.200 And here's what happens when these things like what you're saying, cheap, reliable energy becomes problematic and able to get like, here's how that looks.

00:27:44.080 We wanted to show people that.

00:27:46.160 But that was very, very challenging for us to do.

00:27:48.500 And again, I think what we, you know, one thing we, it's important that I think, I mean, any kind of time, I mean, humans are going to make, if you walk out your door and step on the grass, you've made an environmental impact.

00:28:02.700 So in the pursuit of energy, there is no matter what you're doing, there's going to be an environmental impact.

00:28:10.180 This is what's going to happen.

00:28:11.560 So we need to understand no matter what we're talking about, there's going to be something.

00:28:15.200 How do we minimize that?

00:28:16.900 And I think Canadian oil and gas companies, I believe, are trying their absolute best.

00:28:24.140 And I do believe that.

00:28:27.420 Sorry, go ahead.

00:28:28.600 No, I was just going to say, I would suggest we're probably the best in the world at it.

00:28:32.560 If anybody's ever spoken to an expat oil and gas worker, they'll tell you that much.

00:28:37.800 Yeah, and I think that that's another part of this argument that kind of gets lost, where it's like, well, other parts in the world, there's some, you know, pretty, you know, there's some things going on that Canadians could really help.

00:28:49.500 Yeah.

00:28:49.860 You know, taking our technologies, where we're going, how we're thinking about things, you know, and that is, that in itself is a lot of good.

00:28:58.160 But again, in a black, in a, sorry, a really kind of polarized world, it's so hard to have that debate.

00:29:05.840 It was just all bad, you know, I don't think it's that simple.

00:29:10.460 Well, I know I promised you we'd keep it close to 20 minutes, but this is fun, talking about these sorts of things.

00:29:20.080 Matt, you, can you let everybody know where they can find your documentary?

00:29:26.860 I think people at home would be really interested in watching it.

00:29:29.420 I know that I'm going to watch it again, maybe a couple of times, because it was just so fascinating.

00:29:34.540 And there are so many people in your film that are familiar faces to Rebel viewers.

00:29:41.100 Sure.

00:29:41.520 I mean, you can see it's on Super Channel.

00:29:43.520 So if you have Super Channel, if you subscribe to that, you can watch it on there for free once you've got the subscription.

00:29:48.400 And you can also purchase it to watch it on, I believe it's globalwarningdocumentary.com.

00:29:55.020 So globalwarningdocumentary.com.

00:29:57.980 And I think it's about five bucks or six bucks to be able to watch it.

00:30:02.060 Yeah, it was worth every penny.

00:30:03.920 Matthew, thank you so much for coming on the show.

00:30:06.480 I can't wait to see what you do next.

00:30:08.980 And maybe we'll have you back on again when your next documentary launches.

00:30:14.980 Awesome.

00:30:15.460 Thanks so much, Sheila.

00:30:16.720 Great.

00:30:16.960 Thank you.

00:30:18.400 Embry's film is powerful because it's told from the perspective of somebody in Calgary who sees the empty office towers every single day.

00:30:38.360 And like so many of us here in Alberta, is also inundated with articles every single day, it seems,

00:30:44.440 about layoff after layoff after layoff in the oil patch.

00:30:49.240 And again, if you'd like to see the trailer or purchase video-on-demand copies of Global Warning, you can go to globalwarningfilm.com.

00:31:00.960 I think Matthew Embry did a great job of telling our story, the story of Alberta.

00:31:06.880 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:31:09.080 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:31:10.740 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, at the same place next week.

00:31:15.280 And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:31:19.580 Thank you.

00:31:19.840 Thank you.

00:31:22.140 Thank you.

Rebel News Podcast - December 03, 2020

Global Warning (2019)： Interview with film director Mathew Embry

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