The Alberta government has taken over a church, evicted its pastor, and all its congregants, and occupied it with guns. They've even brought in toilets to the church as if their metaphor needed to be any more obvious.
00:16:53.620Yeah, you know what, I think about, for example, the Grace Life Church, which is just incredible,
00:16:59.960the police occupation, and it's a 24-7 thing. They brought in the porta-potties, they're not
00:17:05.600leaving. And I think, imagine if that were done to a mosque. Now, there have been mosques in Canada
00:17:11.640that have been credibly accused of being hotbeds for Islamic terrorism. For example, the Sunnah Wahhabi
00:17:19.180mosque in Montreal, the Pentagon said that was a serious recruiting place for ISIS and Al-Qaeda.
00:17:28.940So there are some, and there are some Sikh temples that are affiliated with extremism.
00:17:35.780The idea that you would occupy a mosque, set up a 24-hour police occupation of it, wall it off,
00:17:45.200and ban worshipers, if that were done to one of these mosques or Sikh temples that I just referred
00:17:51.320to, you could only imagine the civil liberties, the legal, the judicial, the human rights response.
00:17:58.980But just because, you know, folks go to church in the same numbers they go to Walmart, it's a shocking thing.
00:18:08.220But the biggest shock is that, how many church leaders have you seen in Canada in the last 24 hours speak up?
00:18:15.980I have, where's the head of the Catholic Church? Where are the senior bishops? Where's the cardinal?
00:18:21.120Where's other evangelical leaders? Where are Jewish leaders? Where are Muslim and Sikh and Hindu leaders?
00:18:29.920But mainly, where are the Christians? I see silence.
00:18:34.600Yeah, there's a lot of people who seem, you know, too afraid to say anything at all.
00:18:38.280It's quite sad to see. It kind of comes back to the point of it, right?
00:18:42.300People, they only want to defend freedom for their own group, or even in some cases, not their own group.
00:18:46.860You know, so many people, I think, have shown themselves that they'll just listen to what any politician or, you know, public health official tells them.
00:18:53.200They're not going to question anything. And questioning those in power is supposed to be, you know, a bedrock of a democratic country, which Canada is supposed to be.
00:19:01.460And that really seems to be fading away from the people.
00:19:04.300You know, they're afraid and they're just going to let fear totally take them over and dominate what they do.
00:19:08.400But, you know, I think the other issue is identity politics, right?
00:19:12.920And this is why identity politics is really not compatible with a free and democratic country.
00:19:18.400And the reason is you have to treat everyone equally under the law, right?
00:19:24.420So, as you say, there's certainly political correctness in all this.
00:19:27.600I mean, we saw that early on when they were saying everyone stay inside, don't gather at all.
00:19:32.160And then there were some Black Lives Matter protests and they said, oh, you saw even public health officials say things like, oh, racism is just as big a threat as the virus.
00:19:42.460So, wait a minute. You've been telling everyone to stay home, stay away from their families, let businesses be absolutely wiped out.
00:19:48.180But now this one protest is OK because you happen to agree with it.
00:19:51.320You're obviously not following the science. And I think that's that's kind of been the response for a long time.
00:19:56.200Yeah. Well, I think that there are there's a conservative case, a liberal case, a public health case against the lockdowns.
00:20:05.360I think there are reasonable, you know, it's a spectrum of of remedies and steps you can take around the world.
00:20:13.880Different places have taken different steps.
00:20:16.800Some very poor countries really have done nothing, by the way.
00:20:20.320And I don't know how strong a correlation there is between lockdowns and health outcomes.
00:20:34.500South Dakota, in many ways, was the least locked down state in the union.
00:20:39.520As you can see, absolutely identical infection rates.
00:20:45.280Like it's it's as if I'm showing you the same graph twice.
00:20:48.020I guess what I'm saying is there's more than one approach.
00:20:52.120But why is it, Spencer, that in 10 provinces, three territories in the federal government,
00:20:57.640I can't name one official opposition party, one conservative party that's taking sort of the South Dakota approach, the Texas approach, the Florida approach.
00:21:08.300Even though the governors of those three states are very popular, why are Canadian conservative establishment types not expressing a dissident point of view?
00:21:20.120Yeah, I think we're finding out that the Canadian conservative establishment is a lot more statist and pro-government than they leave their donors and members and supporters to believe.
00:21:30.640Right. You know, they campaign limited government, you know, individual freedom.
00:21:34.640We're going to get the government off your back.
00:21:36.440You know, the government shouldn't be doing that much.
00:21:38.360But we've seen them basically all respond in the same way during this crisis, which is the government's going to tell you when you can and can't open your business.
00:21:51.060We're going to demonize anyone who disagrees.
00:21:53.520And so, yeah, I think a lot of people, you know, are finding out that, you know, we thought we were electing some conservative type people, but we really elected just statists who just happen to be putting the conservative label on their party for votes and donations.
00:22:05.720So, you know, there's going to be obviously a reckoning, I think, within a lot of conservative parties as to what direction they go.
00:22:10.440Well, maybe some will choose to keep going the status route, but I would hope that at least some, you know, choose to go the limited government pro-individual freedom route because, you know, even if you totally disagree with that personally, you should want a democratic country to have a wide spectrum of views and an actual debate in terms of values and what the country is supposed to stand for and how the country should be governed.
00:22:31.640And right now there really isn't much of it.
00:22:33.500It's just, you know, people slapping a different label on the same policies and pretending that they're different.
00:22:41.240Spencer, it's great to catch up with you just one more time for viewers.
00:22:44.700The article is called Canada No Longer Feels Like a Free Country.
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