Justin Trudeau groped a female reporter at a party in 2000, and he's now defending himself. But what exactly did he do to her? And why does he do it so often? And what does it have to do with women?
00:03:25.100Trudeau does that all the time, in plain sight.
00:03:29.160Remember when that poor woman, Kathy Kachula was her name, complained in tears that Justin Trudeau's carbon tax was making her life unaffordable?
00:03:37.760She started to cry, and what did he do?
00:03:40.420He walked up to her uninvited and got right into her face, dominant, to shut her up, to take away her moral power over him.
00:03:48.660Now, was that sexual? Probably not with Kathy Kachula.
00:03:52.180But with Trudeau, it's not always about sex. It's about dominance.
00:04:45.960And other than some alt-left extremists at places like the Toronto Star who are defending him, I think most of us know he's creepy.
00:04:53.900But what will he say in his own defense?
00:04:58.040Well, he rambles a lot in that word salad way that he does.
00:05:02.300There's a way that he speaks where he just strings together subordinate clauses so long that by the time you get to the end of the sentence, you forgot what the beginning of the sentence was about.
00:05:09.800But he's mastered saying nothing, being very vacuous.
00:05:12.720I don't think that it's because he's stupid, because obviously he has a cleverness to him.
00:05:18.960That he's perfected saying very little very smoothly in a way that gets him through a tough spot without actually having to do his homework.
00:08:01.200Like I said, I've been working very hard to try and piece it together.
00:08:05.380And, and even when the, um, original, uh, editorial came out at the time, I was fairly confident, I was very confident that I hadn't acted in a way that I felt was in any way inappropriate.
00:08:24.500Hang on, if he didn't do anything wrong, then, then why did he apologize?
00:08:29.480She said he inappropriately handled her.
00:08:32.440She, she quoted him at the time as saying, if I had known you were reporting for a national paper, I never would have been so forward.
00:08:51.200Is Trudeau saying that's not a negative interaction?
00:08:53.380Or is he saying she really wanted him to touch her there and she's just making a big deal out of nothing and he wouldn't have apologized if she didn't have some media power over him?
00:09:08.060But like I said, part of the lesson that we all have to learn through this is respecting that the same interactions can be felt very differently from, by different people going through them.
00:09:48.900Does he even consider touching a young woman's rear end to be sexual?
00:09:53.180Or is that what he does to all the women he needs, including the governor general, including his own cabinet ministers, or at least the pretty ones?
00:09:59.740Is he saying he touched her, but she just misinterpreted it?
00:10:05.320Or is he saying he never touched her, she's lying?
00:11:10.620We should respect liars and the right to be liars.
00:11:13.320And he certainly does respect liars like the liar who's lying about him.
00:11:19.500But part of this awakening that we're having as a society, a long-awaited realization,
00:11:27.400is that it's not just one side of the story that matters.
00:11:33.440That the same interactions could be experienced very differently from one person to the next.
00:11:42.060And I am not going to speak for the woman in question.
00:11:45.820I would never presume to speak for her.
00:11:48.400But I know that there is an awful lot of reflection to be had as we move forward as a society on how people perceive different interactions.
00:14:14.520And as I've said, I have, I'm confident that I did not act inappropriately.
00:14:24.900But I think the essence of this is that people can experience interactions differently.
00:14:32.900And part of the lesson we need to learn in this time of collective awakening is a level of respect and understanding for the fact that people, in many cases women, experience interactions in
00:14:48.280professional contexts and other contexts differently than men.
00:14:51.280So the same thing as before, he is confident he did nothing wrong and you can believe him because he's been doing so much reflecting.
00:15:01.280And by the way, we've all been reflecting and he loves that word reflecting because it reminds him of his favorite thing, a mirror that reflects him back to him so he can reflect on his reflecting while looking at his reflection.
00:15:26.280And that apology he made, well, he didn't mean it.
00:15:29.280You see, it was just to shut the girl up.
00:15:32.280I apologized in the moment because I had obviously perceived that she had experienced it.
00:15:42.280I experienced it in a different way than I acted or I experienced it.
00:15:47.280And I think this reflection as we move forward needs to continue in our communities, in our places of power, in our places of work.
00:15:57.280Hang on, you perceived that it went wrong, but haven't you said around three or four times that we've shown now that there was no negative interaction?
00:16:07.280Isn't that, by definition, a negative interaction?
00:16:10.280Isn't the other person's point of view, isn't that what makes it an interaction?
00:16:14.280An interaction instead of just an action?
00:18:12.280Hey ladies, just because I grope you doesn't mean I won't defend understanding and respect for individuals reflecting on their experiences that they go through.
00:18:28.280So if you're going through the experience of being groped by me, I'll defend your understanding of that experience.
00:18:35.280I respect you for understanding your experiences.
00:18:39.280I may have groped you, but I still respect you.
00:23:14.280Because I think if you didn't follow politics in great detail, you would have thought that his feminism stuff was very genuine and heartfelt.
00:23:21.280But now it's gone from being shtick to totally icky.
00:23:24.280I mean, I just feel icky talking about this whole thing.
00:23:27.280This male feminist masking around to save all of Canada's women.
00:25:37.280And also he's kind of getting away with it because I think if it was anyone else saying this, that that exact line would be parsed to the nines and people would assess it in the way that I just did.
00:25:48.280I mean, I've always wondered why he emphasizes feminism so much as a policy, not just as a style, but as a substantive policy.
00:25:59.280He went to the World Economic Forum in Davos and it's all these fancy CEOs and government leaders and they're all abuzz with Donald Trump had just brought in massive tax cuts.
00:26:09.280And that's really a lot of people wanted to hear what Trudeau's reply was.
00:26:14.280And it was, well, we're going to have more feminism and the NAFTA negotiations.
00:26:17.280No, we've got to put feminism in there.
00:26:19.280And I was thinking, I don't care if your style is feminist, but if that's all you talk about, you're running a little bit hot.
00:26:28.280Do you think he ever meant it or do you think it was all one long planned preemptive insurance against when some of his old gropies?
00:26:38.280And by the way, I don't think I have no proof, but I tell you, I don't think this is the only woman who's ever been groped by him.
00:26:46.280His wild bachelor days were not days, they were years.
00:26:52.280I have this terrible feeling that our entire country's government has been used as a preemptive strike against these groping complaints just so he could build up a lot of buffer.
00:27:04.280Oh, but I'm the world's best feminist. We all know that.
00:27:07.280I'm terrified that his whole feminist agenda was just a preemptive cover for his bad behavior.
00:27:15.280Yeah, I don't know. I mean, there could be a bit of a telltale heart thing going on here where someone knows they've been inappropriate in a couple instances, shall we say,
00:27:24.280and then overemphasizes the fact that they're really big on that issue to act as a shield.
00:27:30.280It could also just be, as Jason Kenney said, and he apologized for it, although I don't think he needed to.
00:27:35.280And he said, look, this is a person who's been on Parliament Hill for a decade, not once has he ever done anything of any intellectual accomplishment,
00:27:42.280hasn't championed a private member's bill, wasn't on a committee where he said anything of note, made any interesting observations.
00:27:47.280So, Ezra, I think saying, like, go women is a very kind of easy thing to do, and you can reach for it.
00:27:53.280And nobody's really going to boo you down for saying it, because we all more or less agree with the basic idea of the equality.
00:27:59.280So it's a cheap and easy win for someone who doesn't have a lot to contribute to the serious public policy realm.
00:28:04.280So I think it's a coin flip on this one or a 50-50.
00:28:08.280You know, you remind me of when Andrew Klavan, the great American cultural observer, said,
00:28:13.280when people go for that feminism card, it's because, like you say, it's easy to say,
00:28:18.280and it's easier than talking about tax cuts or a trade deal or anything.
00:28:23.280It's just a safe go-to place, and it's full of cliches.
00:28:27.280You know, there's one last thing, and let me just play a very quick clip for you.
00:28:33.280This is Trudeau saying for decades, ever since his college days,
00:28:38.280he's been an activist against sexual assault and harassment.
00:34:10.280I'm surprised by the complete and utter acquittal of all the charges.
00:34:14.280He was actually facing 12 charges, six of sexual assault, and another six for sexual interference, because the girls were all aged 14 to 16.
00:34:27.280I thought maybe he might get off on a few of the charges, because a couple of the girls were a little fuzzy on some of the details of his appearance.
00:34:39.280Because, you know, they were in a water park, and for the most part, the man who was molesting them was behind them and under the water.
00:34:47.280But I was shocked to see that he got off on all of these charges, considering that two of the four girls were completely unrelated to the other four.
00:34:57.280Two girls were there on their own and complete strangers to the other four girls who were there as part of a soccer team and a sleepover afterwards.
00:35:06.280So it was quite shocking to see that he just walked on everything.
00:35:29.280So when he did appear in court, he was clean shaven, and actually some of the girls pointed that out when they identified him from the stand.
00:35:36.280They identified him from the stand, but then they said he used to have a beard, or that on the day of the molestations, he did have a beard.
00:36:18.280But if six girls said it, and if two of them were unrelated, and if five out of the six were certain, let me ask you, did Solomon himself take a stand, or did he bring any witnesses or any experts in his defense?
00:36:32.280The Solomon Hajj Solomon didn't take the stand, nor did the defense bring forward any defense at all.
00:36:37.280They didn't bring forward any witnesses.
00:36:40.280The only time we heard from the defense was during cross-examination of the witnesses and then during closing arguments.
00:36:47.280Now, I checked online and I have not been able to find the formal judgment in this matter.
00:36:56.280And when we do, I'm going to go through it carefully, and I know you will also.
00:37:01.280And it's because you attended the day in court, and I've seen other reports by other media.
00:37:07.280The judge, correct me if I'm wrong, and maybe you can state it in the words that you heard.
00:37:12.280The judge said, and I'm only asking you because we don't have her written a verdict yet, that she chose not to believe these six girls because they were white and the accused was a Syrian migrant,
00:37:27.280and therefore their ability to identify him was somehow prejudiced by his culture or something.
00:37:37.280So she refused to take their identification of him as accurate because, oh, she implied, oh, well, they would just blame any Syrian,
00:37:47.280and that there was no evidence to this effect, no expert to this effect, and that the defense counsel did not argue this.
00:37:53.280The judge just made that up. Is that accurate?
00:37:57.280That is accurate. I actually went and got my notes from that morning.
00:38:00.280I took 10 full pages of notes. I was writing as much as I could down.
00:38:04.280What the judge said, and, of course, I'm paraphrasing here because I was taking notes,
00:38:08.280she said that one of the factors she considered in dismantling the girl's witness identification of him was that
00:38:18.280Solomon Hajj Solomon is from a different cultural background from that of each of the complainants.
00:38:25.280She said this too makes it difficult for those complainants to discriminate the features of the accused when the offender is in a group of people possessing those same features.
00:38:36.280So, you know, even in my notes, I was sort of shocked to hear that because I said, I actually wrote,
00:38:43.280does this mean the judge thinks that those little girls are racist, that they can't tell the difference between one Syrian and another?
00:38:51.280I just thought it was appalling, but she wasn't done there.
00:38:54.280She actually called into question the girl's identifications of Solomon Hajj Solomon from the witness stand.
00:39:03.280She, again, said that there were few people in the courtroom that were of a different cultural background for these girls to choose from when they were trying to identify the offender.
00:39:15.280She also said that the use of an interpreter may have tainted the girl's IDs from the stand.
00:39:22.280So the fact that Solomon Hajj Solomon asked for a word-for-word Arabic offender or Arabic translator was actually used against the girls when they made their witness identification from the stand.
00:39:36.280And what on earth does that have to do with how a guy looks who gropes them?
00:39:40.280I mean, he wasn't chatting with them in English or Arabic when he allegedly groped them at the West Edmonton Mall of Water Park.
00:39:52.280If a juror or a witness had said those racist, bigoted things that that judge just said, they would have been discredited.
00:39:59.280Oh, you're saying all brown people look alike, or you're saying white people can't look at brown people.
00:40:05.280Those are so, and what gets me, Sheila, is that you're saying that Solomon had Solomon himself, and his lawyer himself didn't dare make such a racist, stupid argument.
00:40:20.280And we'll have to wait and see what the judge puts in her written verdict.
00:40:24.280But I've never heard of this as a rule of law, as a established law, that if someone has a translator, you can't believe someone identifying them.
00:40:41.280Based on what you've said, and again, we're still waiting for the ruling.
00:40:44.280I am absolutely certain that it will not be appealed, because this is one of Trudeau's Syrian refugees.
00:40:50.280And the Attorney General of Alberta, and whatever input the feds have, they do not want it on the record that we have brought over the rape culture from Syria.
00:41:04.280And so, Solomon had Solomon has been acquitted, in part because, as you say, oh, the girls were white, so they're just a bunch of racists, so we can't trust them, so he didn't do it.
00:42:26.280You know, I think she, like so many politically correct leftists, she's all about feminism until someone with a higher poker hand in the politically correct Olympics comes along.
00:42:38.280And one of Justin Trudeau's Syrian migrants, well, if these girls have to pay the price for Trudeau's Syrian policy, that's just the way it is.
00:42:47.280I say again, he was acquitted under law.
00:42:50.280According to the law, he is not a convict.
00:44:13.280I have to say these girls are a sacrifice zone for both the provincial and federal government.
00:44:20.280And that terrifies me because I've seen the thousands of girls in the United Kingdom who are a sacrifice community for the politics of multiculturalism and open borders.
00:44:30.280We have brought the rape culture to our country, and you saw it firsthand in Edmonton.
00:44:37.280And as a mom of two young girls, it was hard to see what those girls were put through in their attempt to get justice and then to be denied at the end of it all.