Rebel News Podcast - Hostages, spies, contaminated food： What will it take for Justin Trudeau to hit back at China？

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today's podcast is a question, really. Why is Justin Trudeau allowing China to 0.92

00:00:06.300 push them around? I mean, surely he knows they're not his friend anymore. They've taken two, maybe

00:00:10.580 even three hostages. They're blocking all our agricultural exports. Why don't we even very

00:00:16.080 gently block their imports to us, like Donald Trump has tears? Why? I take you through a lot

00:00:22.620 of the recent news, including a new report today of 900 food inspection failures of Chinese junk 0.51

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00:01:04.420 Tonight, just what will it take for Justin Trudeau to hit back at China? It's July 15th

00:01:10.040 and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:13.660 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:17.160 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:21.460 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody

00:01:26.360 right to do so.

00:01:32.960 China took another Canadian citizen into custody today. Here's a story.

00:01:38.800 The Shandong Provincial Public Security Bureau recently seized a drug-related case involving

00:01:46.480 foreign students, said Foreign Ministry Spokesman Geng Shuang at a press briefing.

00:01:53.200 One of the people involved in the case is a Canadian citizen.

00:01:56.300 As Freud said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Maybe this is just a foreign student from Canada 1.00

00:02:04.700 in China caught with drugs. Could be. Or maybe it's another pretext to take another Canadian hostage.

00:02:10.940 I'm pretty sure we won't get the truth from Justin Trudeau or Chrystia Freeland. They would have a strong

00:02:15.900 incentive to make it seem like China, no, no, no, no, they're not bossing us around when China is

00:02:21.260 very clearly bossing us around. And the two Canadian hostages they took a year ago, almost,

00:02:29.260 they're no closer to release. It'll be a year in December. The opposite, actually. They're further

00:02:34.980 away from release than ever. You know, the two gray-haired elder statesmen of the Liberal Party

00:02:38.500 of Canada, Jean Chrétien, the former Prime Minister, and John McCallum, the last ambassador we had to

00:02:45.400 China, you know, we still haven't replaced him. Well, they both more or less told the Chinese to 1.00

00:02:50.300 hold firm that Trudeau would or should or could just cave in and give the Chinese whatever they 0.98

00:02:56.980 want. I mean, who knows what the Chinese diplomats think of all this, but you could forgive them for 1.00

00:03:02.420 trusting old men like Chrétien and McCallum, which I'm guessing would be the instinct of the Chinese 1.00

00:03:08.880 to trust the old seasoned hands rather than trusting the shallow words of a young fool like Trudeau and 1.00

00:03:16.300 this foolish foreign minister. We're quite proud. The prime minister has been given a fond nickname in 1.00

00:03:24.840 China, which he is called Pudou, which I believe means potato. And he's, I can't say the Chinese 1.00

00:03:31.820 tradition, Pudou, little potato, because his father, Pierre Elliott, Pudou, was senior potato. So we feel we are off to a great start.

00:03:43.820 Yeah, if you don't know that you're being insulted, if you think an insult is a compliment, maybe you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

00:03:56.060 China is cranky these days, and for good reason. For the first time in a generation, someone, something powerful is holding them to account. 1.00

00:04:03.700 Donald Trump. Like all dictatorships, China lies about its strengths, especially its economic strengths. So it's impossible to know just how badly Donald Trump's trade war is hurting China.

00:04:14.500 It wouldn't surprise me if they were actually tilting towards recession, which means two quarters of economic shrinkage.

00:04:22.300 And it's not just the facts of it. It's that Trump is so undiplomatic about it. His style is so brazen.

00:04:28.320 Look at these recent tweets. China's second quarter growth is the slowest it has been in more than 27 years.

00:04:35.720 The United States tariffs are having a major effect on companies wanting to leave China for non-tariffed countries.

00:04:41.380 That's very interesting, isn't it? Companies are moving out of China to set up factories elsewhere.

00:04:46.800 Thousands of companies are leaving. This is why China wants to make a deal with the U.S.

00:04:51.740 and wishes it had not broken the original deal in the first place.

00:04:55.020 In the meantime, we are receiving billions of dollars in tariffs from China, with possibly more to come.

00:05:00.620 These tariffs are paid for by China, devaluing and pumping, not by the U.S. taxpayer.

00:05:07.920 He's having too good of a time, isn't he?

00:05:10.660 No one has ever spoken to China like Donald Trump is doing.

00:05:14.440 And the glee there.

00:05:15.580 And Trump meets at will with China's colony, North Korea, arranging a visit to the DMZ by Twitter,

00:05:22.760 going around Kim Jong-un's handlers in Beijing.

00:05:25.920 China is cranky. 0.99

00:05:27.380 Look at this tweet from the Chinese ambassador.

00:05:30.140 He's the ambassador to the U.S.

00:05:31.520 He's growling at Taiwan for buying U.S. military equipment.

00:05:36.140 Taiwan is part of China.

00:05:37.580 No attempts to split China will ever succeed.

00:05:40.200 Those who play with fire will only get themselves burned.

00:05:43.040 Period. Period.

00:05:44.080 Period. So I guess there's three periods.

00:05:45.880 There's burned period, then he writes out period, and then he puts a period.

00:05:49.780 Just so you know, he's really, I really, really mean it, guys.

00:05:54.120 Yeah, you don't have to say period three times if people would take you at your word.

00:05:59.460 I remember about a dozen years ago when I had the privilege of visiting Taiwan.

00:06:04.140 My main worry, and it was the worry of the political class, the civil liberties class, 0.89

00:06:08.920 was that China would sweet-talk Taiwan into rejoining China with the promise of the unlimited riches of the vast Chinese market.

00:06:19.340 My worry was it was a velvet glove over a steel fist that Taiwanese people might be, I don't know, 1.00

00:06:25.540 tricked by the wealth and ignore the risk to their freedom.

00:06:29.560 That's what I felt when I went there a dozen years ago.

00:06:31.900 Well, President Xi Jinping has removed any doubt of that.

00:06:35.480 He's taking the velvet glove off.

00:06:36.480 He's just got the steel fist.

00:06:38.020 Taiwan is pretty much scared away from China for another generation.

00:06:41.820 And it's because China's just so growly. 0.99

00:06:43.560 And add into that the massive multi-million person street protest in Hong Kong

00:06:49.040 against a bill that would have given China's courts powers in Hong Kong.

00:06:53.320 They just plain stared down Beijing's puppet CEO in Hong Kong, and she blinked.

00:07:02.480 It was an extradition bill.

00:07:03.940 So yeah, things aren't going well for China these days, partly because of China's own mistakes, 0.75

00:07:07.920 but mainly, I put it to you, because of Donald Trump.

00:07:10.580 Did you know that Donald Trump has visited Japan three times?

00:07:16.480 And Japan's prime minister, if I'm counting right, has visited America six times under Trump.

00:07:22.720 I think that's the most of any world leader.

00:07:26.580 Don't think that's not a counterpoint to China, too.

00:07:29.800 Japan is a counterweight. 1.00

00:07:31.040 Japan is worried about China.

00:07:32.940 Japan and America are closer than they've been in years.

00:07:37.440 Trump knows what he's doing.

00:07:39.300 China's on the back foot. 0.83

00:07:41.360 Except for with Canada.

00:07:42.700 All these folks that are standing up to Chinese bullying. 0.69

00:07:46.940 Well, not Canada. 1.00

00:07:48.000 China's bullying Canada because our guy's too stubborn and too stupid to admit that we have a problem. 1.00

00:07:53.780 I mean, look at this guy. 1.00

00:07:55.180 The Chinese couldn't believe their luck when they first encountered this fool. 0.96

00:07:59.200 There's a level of admiration I actually have for China because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime. 0.91

00:08:14.120 Yeah, well, in addition to the two or is it three hostages, China has slapped massive trade sanctions on Canada.

00:08:22.060 I mean, Trump is roughing up China, but China's roughing up Trudeau.

00:08:26.480 He's banned our crops.

00:08:28.000 He's banned our meat.

00:08:29.640 He's with spurious claims that our meat is unhealthy or something.

00:08:34.280 It's obviously fake.

00:08:36.320 It's obviously a false excuse.

00:08:37.740 Canada's crops are surely the healthiest in the world.

00:08:40.380 Canada's, you know, China's just playing with us and Trudeau's letting it happen. 0.95

00:08:44.500 So basically, China is conducting war against us by every means except through military means.

00:08:51.280 Hostages, sanctions.

00:08:53.320 But look at this news today.

00:08:56.100 Canadian food inspectors flagged 900 items from China over two years.

00:09:02.440 That's more than one a day.

00:09:03.680 Let me read a little bit.

00:09:05.360 Canadian inspectors intercepted nearly 900 food products from China over concerns about faulty labels,

00:09:10.900 unmentioned allergens, and harmful contaminants that included glass and metal

00:09:17.360 between 2017 and early 2019, according to internal federal records.

00:09:25.180 The document provides an inside look at imports from China that caught the attention of officials

00:09:29.360 for appearing to fall short of Canadian standards, from gumballs with extraneous metal

00:09:35.080 to three-minute chow mein that contained an insect.

00:09:40.900 To spicy octopus feet flagged for a nonspecific hazard.

00:09:46.440 So I didn't even know octopus had feet.

00:09:50.800 So unlike their fake claims that our Canadian food is bad, that our canola is bad, 0.96

00:09:57.260 we're importing so much junk from China that's fake, that's counterfeit, that's poison, 1.00

00:10:01.000 insects, glass, metal, and we're just saying, 0.98

00:10:03.360 Hey, guys, that's fine.

00:10:05.280 You can still have my lunch money and I'll still do your homework for you, Biff. 0.98

00:10:08.640 Just stop beating me up, okay? Why are we going easy on them?

00:10:11.880 Here's some more from the story.

00:10:14.180 In recent weeks, China asked Canada to suspend all its meat export certificates to the Asian country

00:10:19.360 after Chinese customs inspectors detected residue from a restricted feed additive

00:10:24.380 called ractopamine in a batch of Canadian pork products.

00:10:27.820 A statement by China's embassy in Ottawa said the investigation uncovered at least 188 forged veterinary health certificates

00:10:34.500 and argued the Canadian system had obvious safety loopholes.

00:10:38.900 Chinese authorities have also blocked imports of Canadian canola seeds,

00:10:41.940 alleging they found pests in some shipments.

00:10:43.900 The federal government says it has tried unsuccessfully to send a delegation of inspectors to China to examine the evidence.

00:10:49.320 They won't even let us send inspectors.

00:10:52.020 Do you really believe that Canadian pork farmers had forged veterinary health certificates?

00:11:02.380 I mean, I guess that's theoretically possible.

00:11:07.980 There's more than 35 million Canadians, and most of them eat pork, frankly, all the time.

00:11:12.940 I think we'd have heard about health problems pretty quickly if they were forged veterinary certificates.

00:11:21.040 I think we would detect those, who would even think of that forged veterinary certificates pretty quickly?

00:11:28.820 I've never heard of them in my life, but China has, you know?

00:11:33.540 Nah, no, they're lying.

00:11:35.080 But we're rolling over?

00:11:37.200 Why are we letting them ban our food for no good reason?

00:11:40.540 Well, we let their food in with 900 good reasons to keep it out.

00:11:44.020 Oh, and look at this.

00:11:45.000 Chinese researcher escorted from infectious disease lab amidst RCMP investigation.

00:11:50.920 Public Health Agency of Canada describes it as a possible policy breach.

00:11:54.860 No risk to Canadian public.

00:11:57.020 Let me just read a little bit from the story.

00:11:58.920 A researcher with ties to China was recently escorted out of the National Microbiology Lab in Winnipeg

00:12:03.520 amidst an RCMP investigation into what's being described as a possible policy breach.

00:12:08.400 Dr. Xiangwo Chu, her husband Ke Dingcheng, and an unknown number of her students from China

00:12:16.440 were removed from Canada's only level 4 lab.

00:12:19.400 On July 5th, CBC News has learned, the students didn't speak much English and kept to themselves as a group.

00:12:25.160 I don't understand.

00:12:28.400 So we just have this whole Chinese unit in our country?

00:12:32.860 They don't even speak English, and they're just working in our top-secret confidential research facilities?

00:12:40.220 A level 4 virology facility is a lab equipped to work with the most serious and deadly human and animal diseases.

00:12:48.080 That makes the Arlington Street Lab one of only a handful in North America,

00:12:51.420 capable of handling pathogens requiring the highest level of containment, such as Ebola,

00:12:56.660 security access for the couple, and the Chinese students was revoked,

00:12:59.740 according to sources who work at the lab and do not want to be identified

00:13:02.420 because they fear consequences for speaking out.

00:13:05.640 Sources say this comes several months after IT specialists for the NML

00:13:09.420 entered Chu's office after hours and replaced her computer.

00:13:14.140 What?

00:13:14.840 Her regular trips to China also started being denied.

00:13:18.440 My theory is that they're getting information for the People's Liberation Army on an Ebola weapon.

00:13:25.160 That's just my speculation, if I had to guess.

00:13:27.920 China steals industrial secrets all the time. 0.75

00:13:30.640 They steal industrial secrets even more vigorously than they steal military secrets.

00:13:34.980 Nortel, once Canada's leading high-tech company, was destroyed by China, by Chinese hacking. 0.79

00:13:40.800 It just was, and you can't blame that on Trudeau, actually.

00:13:43.360 In fact, every Canadian government for decades has just turned a blind eye to China's intellectual property theft. 0.72

00:13:49.800 Chrétien, obviously.

00:13:51.140 Paul Martin, obviously.

00:13:52.560 Even Stephen Harper.

00:13:53.720 Why?

00:13:54.080 Why him?

00:13:56.040 None of them have the courage or the strength of Donald Trump, that's why.

00:13:59.120 Even if Stephen Harper wanted to take on China in that way,

00:14:01.860 it surely would have been impossible without Barack Obama going along with it.

00:14:06.840 Barack Obama was such a Sinophile.

00:14:08.540 And look at this, a warning from a Nortel executive, what, seven years ago now, about Huawei.

00:14:16.760 Why are we even contemplating letting Huawei, a Chinese company, build our high-tech infrastructure,

00:14:22.760 including our 911 call system, our police and military first responder system?

00:14:27.460 Are we crazy?

00:14:30.500 So what can we do about it?

00:14:31.780 Well, we can do what Trump is doing.

00:14:33.000 We can put tariffs on Chinese imports. 0.99

00:14:36.040 We Canadians can do it.

00:14:37.800 Why not? 0.88

00:14:38.840 We import, like I said, a lot more of their junk than they import from us.

00:14:42.600 Huge trade imbalance, always has been.

00:14:45.080 The Northern Gateway pipeline would finally have had them buy valuable things from us to offset that,

00:14:50.720 but Trudeau nixed that.

00:14:51.600 So it's basically us buying tons of consumer goods, toys, computers, everything, furniture, food from them.

00:14:58.820 They used to buy some food from us, but now that's blocked and we haven't hit back yet.

00:15:04.540 How come?

00:15:06.560 We actually have cause to hit back.

00:15:08.360 And really, who wants to buy Chinese food products?

00:15:10.540 I mean, I love Chinese-style food.

00:15:12.640 I go to Chinese restaurants all the time in Canada, but they're in Canada.

00:15:16.460 They're made with Canadian ingredients, Canadian health standards, Canadian food inspectors.

00:15:20.460 But food from China?

00:15:22.920 Yeah, no thanks.

00:15:24.040 You know, I could come up with a thousand examples, but I remember when I visited China a dozen years ago.

00:15:29.500 The international scandal, when I was in China, was that Chinese toothpaste manufacturers were using antifreeze, seriously, antifreeze, to make the toothpaste taste sweet.

00:15:46.140 I swear to God, and I was in China, and I was reading the China Daily, that's their propaganda page.

00:15:52.640 I swear to God, the Chinese government wasn't denying it.

00:15:56.720 They were defending it, saying the antifreeze was safe.

00:16:01.920 I am not kidding.

00:16:03.360 Yeah, why are we even importing any food or medicine or anything you put in your mouth from China? 0.93

00:16:13.100 So what do we do?

00:16:15.200 Well, we ban their dangerous food. 1.00

00:16:17.160 Ban their crappy manufacturing crap. 1.00

00:16:19.860 Hell, ban Huawei phones. 1.00

00:16:21.140 Seriously.

00:16:21.900 I mean, they spy on you, of course.

00:16:24.220 Why not just ban them?

00:16:25.100 There are a dozen other cell phone makers and laptop makers and TV makers.

00:16:29.660 You don't need a Huawei.

00:16:31.700 You'll get along just fine with an Apple or a Samsung or a Google or whatever.

00:16:38.800 But go further than that, too.

00:16:40.460 You know, ban those Chinese communist propaganda arms on university campuses.

00:16:44.520 They're called Confucius Institutes.

00:16:46.520 They're really just little Chinese embassies on university campuses designed to pump out pro-communist propaganda,

00:16:52.860 but mainly to spy on and criticize any Chinese students who are democracy activists or Falun Gong activists.

00:17:01.160 These Confucius Institutes, they're little underminers. 0.98

00:17:03.420 Kick them out.

00:17:04.740 They're not academic institutions. 0.95

00:17:06.120 They're spies.

00:17:06.800 What about that professor, Dr. Shengguochu?

00:17:11.580 There are thousands of Chinese professors like that.

00:17:15.200 Thousands of grad students.

00:17:16.640 Not just thousands.

00:17:17.660 There's over 140,000 Chinese students in Canada.

00:17:22.540 That's up.

00:17:23.620 That's up, by the way.

00:17:25.680 Now, of course, we have some benefit from that, I think.

00:17:28.640 I mean, I guess we get some of the research from it, I think, although come to think of it.

00:17:35.220 How is it a benefit that Canadian taxpayers fund universities and foreign students to take 140,000 spaces crowding out Canadian kids,

00:17:47.360 taking up spaces that could have, you know, generally make universities less crowded?

00:17:52.620 How is that a benefit again?

00:17:53.940 Because why?

00:17:54.720 They pay tuition, which partially covers the cost.

00:17:57.220 So what?

00:17:57.540 Surely any economic benefit of these 140,000 students is undone by the spying or other activities.

00:18:06.240 But let's assume that the vast majority of Chinese students here are just good people who want a first world education before going back to China to transfer our technologies and skills back home. 0.94

00:18:17.600 How is that our business or our concern?

00:18:19.660 I mean, I'm sure most of them are nice people.

00:18:22.280 I'm sure they are.

00:18:23.840 But we're in a war here, everything but the shooting.

00:18:26.220 Imagine if we had a Trump-like prime minister who wanted to make Canada great again, who told the Chinese, 0.93

00:18:33.060 for every day our hostages are not returned, 1,000 more Chinese students will have their student visas canceled.

00:18:41.080 And I know that's mean.

00:18:42.880 And I'm sure they're very nice people in the main.

00:18:44.640 But they're not Canadian. 0.58

00:18:47.020 They don't have rights here.

00:18:48.040 And we're not jailing them like they jail our people.

00:18:50.940 We're just sending them home.

00:18:52.480 It's out of self-respect, really, that we're doing it.

00:18:55.220 Until our hostages are returned free.

00:18:57.400 Send 1,000 Chinese visa students home a day. 0.86

00:19:00.360 I think we get them home pretty quick.

00:19:02.320 What's the worst that could happen?

00:19:03.480 More spaces in Canadian universities for Canadians.

00:19:08.400 Less spying in industrial theft.

00:19:10.240 And you know what?

00:19:11.940 More respect for Canada around the world.

00:19:14.200 Justin Trudeau would never admit it.

00:19:15.820 But he could learn a lot from Donald Trump.

00:19:17.900 Alas, he prefers to smear Donald Trump as our next guest segment will show.

00:19:23.320 Stay with us.

00:19:23.920 What you thought of the comments and whether you consider them to be racist.

00:19:41.560 I think Canadians and indeed people around the world know exactly what I think about those particular comments.

00:19:48.680 That is not how we do things in Canada.

00:19:51.000 A Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian.

00:19:53.100 And the diversity of our country is actually one of our greatest strengths and a source of tremendous resilience and pride for Canadians.

00:20:01.040 And we will continue to defend that.

00:20:03.120 Well, that's Justin Trudeau.

00:20:04.760 I guess it's pretty clear he doesn't expect Donald Trump to help him get our hostages back from China.

00:20:10.480 Takes the opportunity to virtue signal about Trump's tweets.

00:20:13.340 What tweets is he talking about?

00:20:15.580 Well, let me read them to you because I don't think you're going to see them verbatim in most newscasts.

00:20:21.240 Because if you just listen to the CBC or any American network, they sound horrific.

00:20:26.120 But let me read them to you because I don't think you'll see them on the news.

00:20:30.420 It's so interesting to see progressive Democrat congresswomen who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe. 0.99

00:20:40.360 The worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world, if they even have a functioning government at all.

00:20:45.460 Now, loudly and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful nation on earth, how our government is to be run. 0.65

00:20:55.480 Why don't they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came?

00:21:00.780 Then come back and show us how it's done.

00:21:05.020 These places need your help badly.

00:21:06.840 You can't leave fast enough.

00:21:07.920 I'm sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements. 0.90

00:21:13.460 Three tweets in a row yesterday, obviously referring in the main to Ilhan Omar, the Somali-American congresswoman from Minnesota who trashes America at every chance. 1.00

00:21:25.540 Somalia, of course, being a failed state. 0.58

00:21:27.080 I thought they were provocative comments, but certainly not racist.

00:21:30.540 And they spoke the truth about the nature of Somalia and the ingratitude of Omar. 0.95

00:21:34.000 But they have been called racist by everyone, including by Justin Trudeau.

00:21:38.960 Joining us now from Breitbart headquarters in California is our friend Joel Pollack, senior editor at large.

00:21:45.820 Joel, were these comments racist, as the mainstream media and Justin Trudeau seem to suggest?

00:21:53.280 No, I don't think so.

00:21:54.980 And I think that it requires some interpretation and spin to declare them racist.

00:22:01.560 I'm not sure that I would have put things the way he did because of the opportunity that his political opponents have to misinterpret what he was saying.

00:22:11.580 But certainly as regards Omar, I think he merely gave voice to what many Americans are thinking.

00:22:18.080 And in fact, today on Monday, the president hosted a Made in America summit at the White House and the audience applauded his defense of his tweets saying, if you don't like the United States, you can leave.

00:22:31.360 You can come back if you want.

00:22:32.840 But if you don't like it here, and he referenced her specifically, if you come from Somalia, a country that is failing, and you come here and you complain all the time, you can simply leave.

00:22:43.500 And that is not an unusual sentiment in American politics.

00:22:49.160 And I think he actually has touched a nerve.

00:22:51.980 Now, for Democrats, they're seeing this as the confirmation of everything they've said about him, that he's racist and so forth.

00:22:57.040 But in order to believe he's a racist, number one, you have to overlook what they have been saying and what they said even as recently as Sunday.

00:23:04.880 One of the four members of the squad, the left-wing group of progressive Democrats that he referred to today and that Pelosi has been attacked by, by the way, they called her a racist as well. 0.56

00:23:15.700 One of the four who was born in Chicago, a congresswoman from Boston, she went out yesterday and said that she's tired of seeing black faces.

00:23:23.960 Those are her words. 0.93

00:23:24.840 No more black faces who are not black voices. 0.99

00:23:28.220 In other words, if you're black, you can only have one political opinion. 0.99

00:23:30.820 It must be on the left, and she doesn't want to see you if you have a different opinion.

00:23:35.700 So they can go out and say absolutely racist things, explicitly racist, but somehow the president is a racist for insinuating that the group of left-wing Democrats that has been attacking him and attacking Pelosi and that he was attacked by is from another country.

00:23:50.380 Now, it's incorrect to say that Ayanna Pressley, that's the last representative I was referring to, is from another country. 0.83

00:23:58.800 And the kind of phrase, go back where you came from, has been associated with racism, but that's not all he said.

00:24:05.280 He said, go back and come back.

00:24:06.980 Once you've solved the problems over there, come back.

00:24:09.040 It's an off-color remark, in a sense, but it's not racist.

00:24:13.460 It basically is how many Americans feel, of all colors and many different backgrounds, about those who come to this country, take its wealth for granted, take the opportunities for granted, and then tell us how terrible this place is.

00:24:27.540 That's Ilhan Omar, that's Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and that's Rashida Tlaib.

00:24:31.820 And Ayanna Pressley, people don't know very well, but she certainly hasn't contributed in a positive way to this, nor has Pelosi.

00:24:37.880 Pelosi came out and said that Trump wants to make America white again.

00:24:42.280 So it's actually his opponents who are using explicit references to race.

00:24:46.200 He didn't say anything explicitly about race.

00:24:48.880 They're making it about race, in the same way that they tried to make it about race when Pelosi criticized them.

00:24:53.100 Pelosi said that these four, she called them the squad, are irrelevant.

00:24:56.860 They only count for their own votes.

00:24:58.900 They don't affect anything that happens in Congress.

00:25:01.140 They accused her of racism for singling out, as a quote, singling out women of color. 0.99

00:25:05.720 Well, it's not her fault they're women of color. 1.00

00:25:07.040 What she's talking about is their radicalism.

00:25:09.240 She's not talking about their race.

00:25:10.740 And that's the same thing with Trump.

00:25:11.860 Now, he was mistaken in that only one of the four was actually born in another country.

00:25:15.740 Two of the four are first-generation immigrants, who, by the way, never tire of telling us that.

00:25:20.820 And, you know, that's something I think that does have to play into this, because the countries they come from,

00:25:27.160 Rashida Tlaib has her roots in the Palestinian Authority.

00:25:29.900 And the other is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:25:35.880 She's from the United States, but she's from Puerto Rico, and also talks about that.

00:25:40.580 These are not well-run places. 0.56

00:25:42.460 The Palestinian Authority is a basket case.

00:25:44.300 Puerto Rico is in the midst of a corruption scandal, also a basket case. 0.72

00:25:47.680 Now their government is busy resigning.

00:25:49.820 These are not well-run places.

00:25:51.400 So to come to this country, and in Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's case, to come from Puerto Rico to the mainland,

00:25:57.940 if you want to complain about how things are here, one ought to do so, I think, with some degree of humility,

00:26:03.660 in the sense that they are better than where your family was before.

00:26:06.440 That's how I feel.

00:26:07.120 I mean, I'm actually an immigrant.

00:26:08.420 My family comes from South Africa.

00:26:09.660 America, and I feel grateful every day for this country, and I would not choose to go back.

00:26:16.340 In fact, I did go back after college, and I worked in South Africa, and I discovered many things about America that I loved

00:26:22.260 that I didn't realize I had taken for granted when I was working in South Africa.

00:26:25.820 And I did what Trump says they should do.

00:26:28.140 I went away.

00:26:28.880 I came back with a new appreciation for America.

00:26:30.840 And I think there's nothing racist about that.

00:26:32.720 It might actually do some people some good, did me some good.

00:26:35.360 I don't think it's racist.

00:26:36.400 I think it is the kind of thing that some racists do say when they don't have the president's intended meaning,

00:26:42.200 and I think that's the problem.

00:26:43.560 I think he shouldn't have phrased it in a way that was so open to attack.

00:26:46.480 But I think his audience knew what he meant, and you saw that today at the White House.

00:26:50.080 He got a huge round of applause from the manufacturers, the people creating jobs, the investors, the workers, the job creators.

00:26:57.500 What he said, and especially about Omar, what he said is not an uncommon sentiment.

00:27:02.860 People are tired of hearing other people run down this country.

00:27:06.080 In Somalia especially, Americans die to defend the security of the people in Somalia, to try to save people in Somalia.

00:27:13.600 And she is a refugee.

00:27:15.360 She's here because of the hospitality of the American people.

00:27:18.900 And she's constantly running down our system, constantly complaining about this and that. 1.00

00:27:22.760 People are sick of it.

00:27:23.940 People are sick of it.

00:27:24.880 And Democrats won't stand up to them.

00:27:27.160 And they're ineffective when they do because they get called racist.

00:27:29.520 So then they just back down.

00:27:30.460 So you're starting to see some hostility to that.

00:27:33.660 And I think Trump, as controversial as this is, I think that he is in his wheelhouse here.

00:27:39.540 This is why people elected him in a way.

00:27:41.940 They don't want him to offend people.

00:27:43.380 And I think if he could rephrase some of the things he said, as he sort of did today.

00:27:46.900 I mean, he really was more careful with his language, even though he was just as passionate.

00:27:50.660 I think if he could have said it slightly differently, it would have been better.

00:27:53.580 But essentially, the sentiment is that we are tired of people who are coming to this country and insisting on open borders and all this other sort of thing, telling us how terrible we are.

00:28:02.860 Actually, you can go somewhere else if that's how you feel.

00:28:04.840 And actually, I don't disagree with that.

00:28:06.760 Where he's wrong is that the people he was referring to, perhaps specifically, don't necessarily fall into that category.

00:28:13.140 Ayanna Pressley is from Chicago.

00:28:14.880 She's African-American.

00:28:15.660 Her family may go back here generations.

00:28:17.180 I mean, she's part of the squad.

00:28:19.080 We don't know if he was referring to her specifically.

00:28:20.680 He didn't name names.

00:28:22.060 But, you know, as regards to her, it's not the best comment he could have made, put it mildly.

00:28:26.340 But she responded in this racist way. 0.99

00:28:28.340 So, you know, he's in a sense, he's enjoying the benefit of having opponents who are what they say he is.

00:28:34.620 Yeah.

00:28:35.260 Here, let's play a quick clip of Ayanna Pressley making those shocking comments. 1.00

00:28:39.120 I had actually never heard of this congresswoman before.

00:28:41.500 This is dictionary definition racism.

00:28:44.140 Take a look at this.

00:28:44.780 Yes, I do quote Shirley Chisholm a lot, who said, if they don't give you a seat to the table, bring your own folding chair.

00:28:50.060 But I've amended that because I don't want to bring a chair to an old table.

00:28:55.500 This is the time to shake the table.

00:28:58.160 This is the time to redefine that table.

00:29:02.400 Because if you're going to come to this table, and for all of you that have aspirations of running for office,

00:29:08.580 for whatever lived experience and identity that you represent,

00:29:11.380 if you are not prepared to come to that table and to represent that voice, don't come. 0.98

00:29:18.580 Because we don't need any more brown faces that don't want to be a brown voice. 1.00

00:29:24.340 We don't need black faces that don't want to be a black voice. 1.00

00:29:27.760 We don't need Muslims that don't want to be a Muslim voice. 0.99

00:29:30.240 We don't need queers that don't want to be a queer voice. 1.00

00:29:33.980 Come on, speak it. 0.65

00:29:38.020 And if you're worried about being marginalized and stereotyped, please don't even show up.

00:29:43.880 Because we need you to represent that voice.

00:29:48.580 The midterm elections of 2018, they spoke a lot about each of our magic.

00:29:52.060 I would never give short shrift to any of our magic.

00:29:55.100 But this is work.

00:29:56.280 And we put it in every day.

00:29:58.520 Joel, I know you've got to run.

00:29:59.520 And thank you very much for taking the time with us.

00:30:00.980 But there's one thing I want to point out here.

00:30:02.980 The reason why I started our segment by actually reading the verbatim text of those three tweets

00:30:09.140 is because in most media coverage I have seen, at least up here in Canada,

00:30:14.420 that exact wording has not been shown to the public because the media party wants the racist interpretation that you've suggested.

00:30:23.120 So they don't want people to say, oh, he didn't mean it that way.

00:30:26.380 He meant it in, if you don't like it here, you know, the place you came from is exactly the way you described it.

00:30:32.740 I think this is another case of media malpractice.

00:30:35.900 What do you think?

00:30:36.580 Yeah, I think so, too.

00:30:39.860 I think that they always do this.

00:30:41.940 They leave out the other parts.

00:30:43.640 Now, look, that's not to say that he should have said it that way.

00:30:46.360 I think that when you're crafting these kinds of things, you have to think about the reaction.

00:30:50.720 And the problem with 280 characters or whatever it is on Twitter is that it's very hard to get all the context into one tweet.

00:30:57.640 He tweeted a thread.

00:30:59.040 So they're focusing on the first part of the thread and not the rest of it.

00:31:02.200 Look, I don't think it matters, actually.

00:31:03.900 I don't think this was a racist comment, certainly not an intent.

00:31:08.180 What he's saying is what people black and white have felt and Hispanic and otherwise have felt about those coming to this country and complaining about it.

00:31:16.120 Justin Trudeau can say what he wants.

00:31:18.040 Canada has a better immigration policy than we do.

00:31:22.040 We're busy dealing with that now as well.

00:31:24.840 But look, these left wing Democrats have accused their own party leadership of racism and people are tired of that also.

00:31:32.300 It can't be that the answer to everything is that it was racist.

00:31:34.820 Yeah.

00:31:35.200 It just can't be that way.

00:31:36.500 It's just tiresome and tedious.

00:31:38.800 Let me leave you with this statistic.

00:31:40.840 Axios received an internal poll from the Democratic Party showing that Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez and her squad are absolutely loathed by independents or people who have not committed to the Democrat Party. 0.87

00:31:56.140 They may inspire the media party, but severely normal Americans, I think they take Trump's view on it.

00:32:03.240 They're a bit sick of the race hustling. 1.00

00:32:06.000 I think that maybe that might even have been why Trump did what he did, because he knows something the media party doesn't.

00:32:13.160 Is it Ilhan Omar, maybe the toast of Washington, but she just despised on Main Street.

00:32:18.580 Last word to you, Joel.

00:32:19.380 I know you got to run.

00:32:20.020 Well, as you said, I mean, this is not an uncommon sentiment among Americans.

00:32:25.460 I think many people feel the same way about those who come to this country and trash it. 1.00

00:32:29.600 You don't give up your right to criticize the country if you come here from another country.

00:32:32.900 I mean, you hear it from immigrants all the time in perfectly legitimate ways.

00:32:37.020 I was listening to a Facebook video this weekend of a woman who immigrated legally and her son was killed by an illegal immigrant.

00:32:43.200 And she's very critical of her government. 0.60

00:32:45.040 She's very critical of the United States government because they didn't protect her family from illegal immigration.

00:32:49.280 You don't give up your right to criticize.

00:32:51.180 And she's an immigrant. 0.91

00:32:51.800 She can criticize.

00:32:52.900 I do think, though, especially when you're a member of Congress, you are the United States government.

00:32:57.700 And you have some responsibility to, I think, appreciate the country, to be grateful to the country.

00:33:06.360 You don't have to sit there on Capitol Hill.

00:33:08.320 If you don't like the country, you don't have to serve.

00:33:09.820 There's many other people who would like to serve in their place.

00:33:12.520 So I think that's how people who are not trying to score political points would have interpreted Trump's tweets.

00:33:17.480 That's certainly the way I saw it for the first few minutes until I realized that this was going to become yet another one of those things that Democrats used to try to attack him and so forth.

00:33:25.720 But I don't think it was racist.

00:33:28.020 I think he could have put it better, put it that way.

00:33:30.220 You don't have to defend the content of the tweet to understand what he was trying to say.

00:33:33.980 All right.

00:33:34.520 Well, thanks very much for this.

00:33:35.680 Very interesting and embarrassing that Canada chose to take a shot at Trump rather than to get Trump's help to help bring our Chinese hostages from China home.

00:33:44.480 Joel, great to see you again.

00:33:46.020 Thank you.

00:33:46.400 All right.

00:33:46.840 There you have it.

00:33:47.180 Joel Pollack, senior editor-at-large from Breitbart.com.

00:33:49.980 Stay with us.

00:33:50.660 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:34:02.640 Hey, welcome back.

00:34:03.880 On my shows from the Defend Media Conference in the United Kingdom, Connie writes,

00:34:08.200 Way to go, Ezra.

00:34:08.920 That was pure gold.

00:34:09.900 Thank you for everything you do, especially sticking it to those censorious thugs.

00:34:13.500 Well, thanks very much.

00:34:14.340 I don't know who you mean.

00:34:15.080 You could mean Chrystia Freeland.

00:34:17.180 You could mean that foreign minister from Pakistan.

00:34:20.420 I don't even know.

00:34:21.660 The place was chock-a-block with censors. 0.90

00:34:23.660 I don't even know how Sheila and I got in, to tell you the truth, because, boy, we were like a skunk at a birthday party.

00:34:30.700 But we did our job, which is to ask questions, and they did not like it one bit.

00:34:35.080 Paul writes, Potemkin Village is an apt analogy.

00:34:40.260 This is a hollow farce going on in the same country that jails journalists.

00:34:44.000 Yeah, I just, you know what?

00:34:45.420 I mean, it was quite a coincidence that Tommy Robinson was sentenced to prison on Thursday.

00:34:51.640 That was day two of this media freedom conference.

00:34:54.500 Just crazy.

00:34:55.920 Rob writes,

00:34:56.460 It's one thing to watch your studio show every day, which I do, but, man, it's awesome to watch you on the field of battle, in the Wolf's Den, in the third dimension.

00:35:03.380 You are on fire.

00:35:04.620 Still one of the best boots on the ground reporters, period.

00:35:06.820 Amazing stuff.

00:35:07.500 You literally own that room.

00:35:08.920 Well, you know, if you're talking about the Pakistani foreign minister, I just got to tell you.

00:35:12.800 Just wait, give me a minute here.

00:35:18.100 So they mailed us the full conference itinerary, room by room, hour by hour.

00:35:24.640 I read it very carefully.

00:35:26.800 The Pakistani government and other authoritarian governments were not on it.

00:35:31.280 Then they had a fancy conference app that you could download into your phone, and I did.

00:35:36.200 And I read every word there.

00:35:37.920 They weren't mentioned there.

00:35:39.640 Then they had signs.

00:35:42.800 On the walls.

00:35:43.860 I read all those.

00:35:45.120 In none of those places, and press releases, so there's a lot of information, in none of those places did it anywhere indicate the foreign minister of Pakistan was speaking.

00:35:57.600 I literally walked into the room just to sit down, and I heard him, and I didn't even know exactly who he was at first, because his name was nowhere.

00:36:09.860 They were hiding.

00:36:11.160 There's censors right at a free speech conference.

00:36:16.260 And so when I figured out who he was, I thought, this isn't even journalism.

00:36:20.520 This is, we've got to have a detonation moment.

00:36:22.960 And if you notice, I don't know if you noticed, the British guy, whose name I still haven't been able to find out, he said, are there any questions for the fellow from Macedonia?

00:36:36.280 Because they didn't want questions for the Pakistani minister.

00:36:38.540 And I put my hand up, because I knew he wouldn't call on me if he knew I was going to ask a question for the Pakistani foreign minister.

00:36:43.580 I said, oh yeah, I've got a question for the Macedonian. 0.99

00:36:46.900 Sure, just a short one.

00:36:48.160 And I took that mic, and I said, no, actually, it's for the Pakistani. 0.99

00:36:50.560 You don't tell me who I get to ask questions for.

00:36:52.560 And I just, boom, I let her rip. 1.00

00:36:54.460 Thanks for letting me relive that moment here.

00:36:56.240 But my point is, they kept it a secret.

00:36:58.800 Did you get that?

00:36:59.420 They kept it a secret.

00:37:00.300 And did you know that he secretly met with Chrystia Freeland?

00:37:03.380 And the only reason I knew that is not that Chrystia Freeland's office mentioned it anywhere, but that Pakistani foreign minister, he tweeted out the picture.

00:37:10.620 Chrystia Freeland was keeping it secret.

00:37:12.180 What a gross, gross event.

00:37:14.640 Anyways, I get the feeling we won't be invited back.

00:37:16.940 But boy, did we make the best use of our time that we had there, wouldn't you think?

00:37:20.920 And I'm just so thrilled I was there with Sheila.

00:37:22.580 She's just a great company to travel with, and our friend Andrew Lawton was there too.

00:37:26.940 All right, well, it's my goal not to go anywhere for a while.

00:37:29.060 I've been doing too much flying, even though I've been trying to give you TV every day I'm on the road.

00:37:33.020 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters in Canada, to you at home, good night.

00:37:38.240 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:37:39.240 We all enjoy far, not to go anywhere.

00:37:40.340 Thank you.

00:37:40.980 Thank you.

00:37:46.840 Thank you.

00:37:48.620 Thank you.

00:37:49.960 Thank you.

00:37:51.100 Thank you.

00:37:51.300 Thank you.

00:37:51.520 Thank you.

00:37:52.080 Thank you.

Rebel News Podcast - July 16, 2019

Hostages, spies, contaminated food： What will it take for Justin Trudeau to hit back at China？

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