Rebel News Podcast - How many people watch The Rebel？ How many Liberals？ You might be surprised...

00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. I've got a story today that I hope you like. It's actually about us. It's about

00:00:04.480 the Rebel. A think tank called the Public Policy Forum did a survey of Canadians of what media they

00:00:11.260 rely on for their politics. And they measured the Rebel. And I'm glad they did, because you know

00:00:15.700 what? Our critics don't like to even talk about us. We're like Voldemort. They don't even say our

00:00:19.820 name in public. So to have it studied in a somewhat scholarly way was very, I was very curious. It's

00:00:27.060 the first time it's happened. And I'm very pleased with the results. And I'll tell you the results

00:00:30.680 in a moment. Before I do, let me invite you to become a premium subscriber. That's eight bucks

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00:00:41.020 all that at the rebel.media slash shows. You get the video version of this podcast. That's good.

00:00:46.900 We've got a couple other shows for you too. David Menzies, Sheila Gunn-Reed. And you know what? I

00:00:50.940 think, well, you tell me. I think today's podcast has good news in it. What do you think? Here it is.

00:00:58.000 You're listening to a Rebel Media Podcast. Tonight, how big is the rebel? How many people

00:01:04.480 watch us? How many liberals do? You might be surprised. It's August 22nd, and this is the

00:01:10.040 Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:13.100 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:16.840 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:20.920 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my

00:01:25.520 bloody right to do so.

00:01:32.340 You know, I tell you from time to time how many viewers we have of the Rebel, you probably

00:01:35.820 get tired of hearing it. It probably sounds boastful, and I guess it probably is. But

00:01:39.600 I see it as other things too. Proof that the mainstream media doesn't properly reflect

00:01:43.920 Canadians. And that there's a huge unmet demand for the other side of the story. The side

00:01:49.440 of the story that the CBC and the Toronto Star and others just don't need.

00:01:53.040 I take it as proof that although a small chorus of haters smear us all the time, calling us every

00:01:59.040 mean name the left has, racist, Islamophobic, transphobic, whatever the latest thing is,

00:02:04.940 that's just a small clique of mean girls, often our competitors or people just jealous of our reach. 1.00

00:02:11.860 For every hater, there's 50, 100 fans. I don't know. I can see this almost every day,

00:02:17.240 actually, literally, when I look at the likes versus dislikes button on every YouTube video we do.

00:02:22.940 You know on YouTube, people can immediately give you a thumbs up or a thumbs down, right? It's like

00:02:26.700 Facebook. It's not rare for our stats, and you can see this yourself, to be 100 thumbs up for every

00:02:32.800 thumbs down. And then there's just the raw view count. We've had nearly half a billion views on

00:02:39.820 YouTube, 2 billion minutes of video, and even more than that on Facebook and Twitter. And that's huge.

00:02:46.600 On any given day, we have more views than CBC's The National, their flagship show, which is languishing

00:02:53.980 at, what, like 250,000 views per night? Maybe. We've had a great week recently. We've been covering

00:02:59.920 very important stories in Hong Kong, exposing the bizarre story of Jonathan Yaniv, that trans scammer. 1.00

00:03:06.720 We've had double, triple, quadruple what the CBC had every day. They hate that at the CBC. Our budget at

00:03:13.500 The Rebel is not even 1% of what theirs is. But we have more viewers than them on any given night.

00:03:20.740 And our viewers' average age is just about 30 years old. The average viewer at CBC The National

00:03:25.560 is around 65 years old. Now, I've got nothing against people who are 65 years old. I'm actually

00:03:29.980 exactly halfway between those two milestones, 30 and 65. I'm just saying, for all of their cringe-worthy

00:03:37.940 efforts to seem relevant and hip and young, it's not working. No one wants, no young people 1.00

00:03:43.280 want to watch the CBC. I've shown you the absolutely worst part of the CBC, their bizarre kids news

00:03:48.700 channel, which just obsesses over drug use and the hyper-sexualization of minor children. It's so

00:03:54.780 gross. It's as if Xi'an Gomeshi was never sacked from the CBC, and they put him and Jeffrey Epstein 0.71

00:04:02.700 in charge of the TV programming at a kindergarten. It is that gross, CBC Kids News. Thankfully,

00:04:09.920 so few Canadians watch it. Seriously, on any given night, less than 1% of Canadians watch

00:04:15.240 CBC News, but 100% of us have to pay for it. So you've heard me say things like that before,

00:04:21.500 but for some reason, it's more exciting for me to hear someone else say it, because so few

00:04:27.000 people say it, other than our own viewers, as in the establishment is terrified to talk about us,

00:04:32.500 let alone to praise us, because they'll be demonized too. I mean, the weirdest part is that

00:04:37.000 we're obviously the most important conservative voice in Canadian media, certainly on the video

00:04:41.380 side, but the two leading conservative politicians in the country, Andrew Scheer and Jason Kenney,

00:04:46.260 they won't even talk to us. They're afraid of being labeled the same mean names we are by the mean

00:04:51.820 girls in the media party. P.S. guys, you're going to be called those names anyways, so you may as 0.98

00:04:56.880 well talk to your base. But just last night, Andrew Scheer said we wouldn't be allowed on his campaign

00:05:04.200 bus. I got to be candid, it wasn't exactly high up on our bucket list. We'll cover this election

00:05:09.460 campaign how and where we like, and that probably doesn't mean sitting in the back of his bus with

00:05:15.420 all those CBC and Toronto Star lads. By the way, good luck with the CBC and the Toronto Star.

00:05:21.820 Um, I mean, I know the conservatives like them more. I'm sure they'll give you fair coverage

00:05:26.920 in return. It's so weird. But back to us, if I may, um, I don't know if you saw this a week or two

00:05:31.980 ago, something called the Public Policy Forum. That's a, that's an academic-ish think tank based

00:05:37.720 in Ottawa, funded by governments and lobby groups mainly. Um, they're bored. It's a snapshot of the

00:05:44.840 establishment, really. CEOs, some bureaucrats on there, some scholars. Um, well, they did a study about the

00:05:50.960 Canadian media called the Digital Democracy Project. Research memo number one, media, knowledge, and

00:05:57.900 misinformation. Okay. Uh, sounds interesting. Uh, let me quote a bit from it, if I may. Um, I'm just

00:06:03.740 going to read from the study. The project will study the media ecosystem in the run-up to and during

00:06:11.060 Canada's October 2019 federal election by monitoring digital and social media and by conducting both

00:06:17.680 regular national surveys and a study of a metered sample of online consumption. The project will

00:06:23.560 communicate its preliminary research findings publicly on a regular basis from August to October

00:06:28.720 2019 and will work with journalists to analyze the spread and impact of misinformation. The study

00:06:36.140 will culminate in a final report to be published by March 2020. Both the project's preliminary findings

00:06:41.620 and final report will be publicly available. Now, the obsession with rooting out fake news and

00:06:47.360 misinformation on the internet, I know enough to know that's code for deplatforming and throttling and

00:06:53.020 silencing conservative dissidents. I'm sorry, that's just what it means. That's always what they say just before

00:06:57.800 they delete your account. The left are obsessed with the concept of fake news and misinformation, even though

00:07:03.400 they're the purveyors of it, whether it's, I don't know, their conspiracy theory about the Russia collusion, which was

00:07:08.900 debunked, or global warming theories, or I don't know if anyone on the left believes that Jeffrey

00:07:16.860 Epstein actually committed suicide. I don't know. I think conspiracy theories are rife on the left. They

00:07:21.620 just all share those views together. Anyways, I see those who talk about, well, we got to hunt down fake

00:07:26.780 news, misinformation. They never mean the fake news on their side. They mean conservatives. I saw it at that

00:07:31.560 liberal defend media freedom conference in the UK that I went to in July. It was not actually about media

00:07:37.280 freedom at all. I mean, Trudeau himself couldn't have been clearer when he threatened Facebook,

00:07:42.040 remember, to either shut down his critics on Facebook on their own, or he would force them to

00:07:47.600 shut them down. And I see that this study in particular was bankrolled in part by that left-wing

00:07:53.720 media tycoon Pierre Omidyar, the same one who managed to somehow select all the panelists at that same

00:08:00.180 censorship conference in London. Boy, they sure didn't like me asking them about that when I raised that

00:08:05.520 obvious conflict of interest back then. I don't know if you saw that video. So the whole premise

00:08:08.940 here is tilted towards regulation and government involvement in the media. But still, it's a study

00:08:15.880 done with at least some semblance of scholarly rigor. And like I say, other than just tooting our own

00:08:21.880 horn, we don't get a lot of industry feedback other than the weird passive-aggressive thing where

00:08:28.060 some of our most agitated competitors at the same time pretend they don't even think about us,

00:08:33.480 but also obsess about us at the same time. And always, always try to get other people to stop

00:08:38.220 paying attention to us, even though they can't stop paying attention to us, like these two.

00:08:43.040 Rebel Media came in and did a crowdfunding project for you, raised about $200,000.

00:08:49.980 After Charlottesville and the riots, the protests there, many people cut ties with Rebel Media,

00:08:57.680 including the Conservative leader Andrew Scheer, saying that it could be seen as giving hate groups

00:09:02.800 a platform. You still go on there. So I'm wondering, why do you go on Rebel Media after Charlottesville?

00:09:11.420 Why is he working with people who were associated with Rebel Media and Ezra Levant?

00:09:16.600 Your campaign director, Hamish Marshall, was a director of the corporation until he became

00:09:21.720 your campaign director. Stephen Taylor is working on social media with you, was also associated with

00:09:28.400 Rebel Media. To what point are you taking on the baggage of Rebel Media when you work with folks

00:09:34.980 like that? Easy, guys. We know you're both taking Trudeau bailouts from the CBC directly,

00:09:40.980 or McLean's get huge government money. Guys, you'll both be fine, even if no one watches your CBC show

00:09:48.340 or reads your McLean's articles. You'll both get plenty of money from Trudeau, guys. Just calm down,

00:09:53.700 okay. I'll get back to both of those two media in question in a moment, because this study compares

00:09:58.760 us to them. Are you interested about that? Let me read to you a few of the study's political

00:10:03.180 findings. Here's one. The findings of our first report are somewhat at odds with the now familiar

00:10:09.440 story of a fragmented and low-trust media environment in which political actors and their

00:10:13.600 partisan supporters have retreated to their own media echo chambers, creating fertile ground for

00:10:18.540 disinformation and foreign interference to take root. Instead, we found that Canadians are more 0.99

00:10:23.620 likely to receive their political news from traditional mainstream media outlets. All right,

00:10:27.820 I guess so. But I'm skeptical. I mean, CBC viewership numbers continue to plunge down about 70% in 10 or 15

00:10:35.380 years, even though Canada's population is at a record level. Newspapers are closing every month,

00:10:41.540 every week sometimes, it seems. And those that stay open have shrinking readerships. I simply don't

00:10:46.580 believe that mainstream media are dominant in real life. I just doubt that people still consume them

00:10:52.000 in significant quantity. But I believe they do consume many antidotes to them online. That's just my

00:10:59.940 hunch, though. This is a study. I'll read some more. They say, alternative media sources that cover

00:11:06.120 politics from an ideological perspective, e.g. The Rebel, Postmillennial, Rabble, do not crack the top 20

00:11:13.040 news sources in the survey. However, they enjoy more prominence on Twitter among users of the top

00:11:17.380 Canadian political hashtags who share links to news sites, which is an indication that the

00:11:21.780 conversation on Twitter does not necessarily reflect the perspectives of the Canadian population

00:11:27.820 at large. Oh, well, I think the population at large isn't very political, which is a good thing

00:11:35.160 about Canada generally. Most people are normal and lead normal lives. I'll get back to our ranking in a

00:11:40.260 moment, though. I like this point. They say, the one troubling point seems to be that while social

00:11:45.360 media exposure is associated with higher levels of misinformation, so is exposure to traditional or

00:11:50.820 mainstream media, though to a lesser extent. In general, it appears that simply consuming news,

00:11:56.120 regardless of source, makes people susceptible to being misinformed about the issues. So in other words,

00:12:02.220 fake news or misinformation is everywhere that there is news at all, because people are everywhere,

00:12:08.100 and people sometimes get it wrong, and people sometimes misunderstand, and people all have

00:12:12.100 their biases, but mainly, who gets to decide what's fake or not? In this case, the studies scholars do.

00:12:18.100 How do they know? I've shown you examples before of the CBC's fact-checked feature. It's not a fact-checked

00:12:24.760 feature. It's just liberal war room talking points shouting at conservatives, say, you're wrong about

00:12:30.100 immigration. You're wrong about global warming. So that's not a fact-checked. That's not misinformation.

00:12:35.260 That's just called having a different point of view. And the fact that the default is liberal means

00:12:39.860 that anyone conservative is called misinformation, but it's not, guys. But at least this study notes

00:12:45.060 that the mainstream media gets it wrong, despite their pretense otherwise. Can I read my favorite

00:12:49.380 quote from this whole study? I'm going to read this to you twice and slowly, because it's so gorgeous.

00:12:54.460 Ready? Survey respondents who read or watched more traditional news media were less likely to

00:13:01.540 express uncertainty about policy questions than those with low consumption, but more likely to

00:13:07.940 give an incorrect response. Did you get there? Let me read that again. Survey respondents who read or

00:13:14.800 watched more traditional news media were less likely to express uncertainty about policy questions

00:13:20.140 than those with low consumption, but more likely to give an incorrect response.

00:13:23.760 So if you're watching the CBC and CTV and global, if you're reading a mainstream newspaper,

00:13:30.100 you're more likely to get your facts wrong, but you're more likely to be extra certain about

00:13:37.520 yourself. So ignorant and arrogant. Yeah, that rings true. Ignorant and arrogant. That could be the 1.00

00:13:44.240 motto of the media party, I think. Look, I'm skeptical of some things in the study, especially given

00:13:49.420 Pierre Omidyar's funding of it. I mean, that's a huge red flag. That would be like George Soros

00:13:54.960 funding it. Omidyar really is a George Soros wannabe. He's buying up media around the world,

00:14:00.120 very partisan media. Some of the cozy connections between the liberals and the think tank raised an

00:14:05.480 alarm bell for me, but at least it's a study. They're supposed to just partisan talking points

00:14:10.980 to the liberals and most of their Me Too echo chambers. But really, my point today is to show

00:14:16.200 you how we're doing. Let me show you. Look at the chart on page six. That's a big list of different

00:14:21.440 Canadian media sources. And it asks people, have you consumed certain media content in the past

00:14:26.620 week? Now, it's a weird chart. They just have Facebook on there, but Facebook's not a publisher,

00:14:32.040 really. Every other media is on Facebook. So I think that's weird. CBC's on Facebook. We're on

00:14:37.800 Facebook. So there's strange things on there like Facebook. But they actually have some media

00:14:44.480 companies. And look at this. 42% of Canadians say they've watched CBC at least once in the past

00:14:51.020 week. That's probably true. CTV and global news are up there too in the mid and high 30s. The big

00:14:56.960 U.S. liberal website, the Huffington Post, is at 33%. 23% for the Globe and Mail, 21% for the National

00:15:04.000 Post, 20% for the Toronto Star. Those are huge companies. Billion dollar companies, or at least

00:15:09.660 they used to be in the case of those newspapers. Now it's probably more accurate to say they're worth

00:15:14.040 hundreds of millions of dollars. So 20% for the Toronto Star. That's the largest newspaper in

00:15:18.660 Canada by circulation. One in five Canadians say they saw something in the Star in the last

00:15:22.780 week. But look at the rebel. 16%. That's just as big as Maclean's magazine, that 100-year-old

00:15:29.760 magazine owned by Rogers, a cell phone company, stuffed with government bailout money. We were

00:15:34.920 literally born four and a half years ago. We live on a shoestring, no corporate money,

00:15:38.320 no government money. And we have as many Canadians viewing us in a week as do Maclean's. I can see why

00:15:46.880 Paul Wells is angry about that, that little guy. Why is he working with people who were associated

00:15:52.500 with Rebel Media and Ezra Levant? Your campaign director, Hamish Marshall, was a director of the

00:15:58.260 corporation until he became your campaign director. Stephen Taylor is working on social media with you,

00:16:06.060 was also associated with Rebel Media. To what point are you taking on the baggage of Rebel Media

00:16:12.740 when you work with folks like that? Easy, tiger. Don't be jealous now.

00:16:17.460 CBC Radio, the supposedly mighty CBC Radio, is listened to by 22% of people in any given week,

00:16:24.200 at least for a moment. Okay, they say so. I think the CBC is just so ubiquitous in its propaganda,

00:16:30.700 and there has been for so long, 75 years of propaganda from the state broadcaster.

00:16:34.480 You probably think you've listened to it, even if you haven't, you're just so used to it. Whereas

00:16:38.360 we don't spend a dime on advertising. If you've heard of the Rebel, you've actually heard of the

00:16:43.180 Rebel. And we're just a hair behind these mighty names in terms of viewership. But look at the chart

00:16:47.700 on page seven. That's broken down by party. You see that? Conservative, Liberal, NDP. Which party

00:16:53.900 members view us the most? Well, no surprise, conservatives do. 22% of conservatives watch us in any given

00:16:59.820 week. We're huge in conservative circles, no matter if Andrew Scheer doesn't talk to us. I think

00:17:05.300 conservatives trust us maybe even more than they trust, you know, a dairy cartel supporting open

00:17:10.120 borders, mass immigration, climate change booster. Maybe they actually want us and watch us because 0.98

00:17:16.120 they know we check up on Scheer and try and keep him honest. We criticize him in good faith when it's a

00:17:21.420 good, when it's a criticism, unlike the rest of the media, which is gotcha. And we make sure he stays

00:17:26.640 conservative, unlike the rest of the media who want him to move left. Anyways, look at the Liberal and the

00:17:30.760 NDP numbers, though. Only 12% of NDPers view us every week. No problem. That's actually amazingly good

00:17:38.920 still. I mean, for example, only 8% of them read Maclean's, by contrast. And look at that. 19% of Liberals

00:17:46.140 watch a Rebel video at least once a week. Isn't that something? I wonder if they watch because they want to

00:17:53.500 hear the other side of the story. That's our motto. Or just for the entertainment value of our

00:17:58.100 presentation or, I don't know, to know what their critics think. I don't know. Whatever it is. Hey,

00:18:03.340 guys, you're welcome. I'm glad you're watching. I'm a little surprised, but you're very welcome here.

00:18:09.780 I am candid. I want to try to convince you of our way of thinking, but I won't censor you or

00:18:16.460 deplatform you if you don't. Maybe that's why you like us. One last stat. For tweets using Canadian

00:18:24.000 political hashtags that linked to media websites, the Postmillennial, Rabble, True North News, and

00:18:30.040 Rebel Media are among the 20 most frequently shared websites, despite not placing in the top 20 sources,

00:18:36.340 new sources in the survey data. Isn't that curious? I've written to the think tank asking for a little

00:18:41.840 more info on that. But if I'm reading that right, it says that although we rank below, as I showed you

00:18:48.820 in that first chart, we rank below the National Post or the World Mail when it comes to the sheer

00:18:52.400 number of readers. Of course we do. It's amazing we're doing as well as we are. But it's amazing

00:18:59.160 that we're in the top 20 when it comes to things like normal people actually sharing our stuff on

00:19:08.440 Twitter. I'll see if I can get more info on that. Wouldn't it be something if we had more natural,

00:19:15.100 organic sharing in social media than, say, CBC Radio online at least? I don't know. We'll find out.

00:19:21.000 I don't have much more on this story. I'm worried about the purpose of this survey. I think it was

00:19:24.740 designed to be used by liberals like Justin Trudeau and Karina Gould to silence their enemies.

00:19:30.260 Trudeau has said as much. Gould has actually set up a five-man board of censors for new media.

00:19:35.720 There was going to be chaired by that gross Michael Wernick, clerk of the Privy Council,

00:19:40.020 before he was sacked. That's still happening, that board of censors. And Andrew Scheer hasn't

00:19:44.520 objected, actually. So I'm worried all this will be used for the purpose of silencing voices like

00:19:49.700 ours and other small voices on the right. Or maybe we're not so small after all, which is exactly why

00:19:54.820 they want to silence us. We'll see. The public policy forum, the think tank here, says they will do

00:19:59.780 more studies, ongoing studies, through the election campaign. Keep your eyes peeled. I actually think it's

00:20:04.300 our time to shine. And apparently millions of Canadians seem to agree. Stay with us for more.

00:20:24.440 The talk to be hosted at the Vancouver Public Library Central Branch in January by Megan Murphy

00:20:29.780 is billed as a discussion on gender identity, ideology, and women's rights. But Murphy's past

00:20:35.160 writing on her feminist blog has upset many, who say her ideas on gender identity are hurtful.

00:20:41.160 She disagrees.

00:20:42.240 Feminists are not going around attacking trans people. We would never do that. We're not against 1.00

00:20:47.840 trans-identified people. Again, we're just trying to have this conversation.

00:20:52.380 Murphy has been permanently banned from Twitter. She says for a new policy that bans something called

00:20:57.200 deadnaming, referring to someone by the incorrect gender.

00:21:00.480 What does it mean to be transgender? How does a man become a woman? How does a person change sex? 0.99

00:21:07.120 What is a trans woman? You know, these are, I feel like these are basic questions that I want to talk

00:21:11.520 about. I want to understand because I, again, I find this conversation and this ideology really incoherent.

00:21:19.100 Well, there you have it. A feminist activist, far left, I would say, dares to ask a few basic questions 1.00

00:21:26.720 about, well, what is a man and what is a woman? And she's banned from Twitter, denounced by the mayor

00:21:35.240 of Vancouver as, quote, despicable. There are attempts to ban her from the public library where she gave a

00:21:42.620 speech. And when the library didn't ban her, the library itself was banned from participating in 0.54

00:21:50.960 the Vancouver Pride Parade. If you thought all of that was too much to believe, then you won't believe

00:21:56.000 what happened next. A trans activist in British Columbia named Morgaine Ogre actually pressured 0.61

00:22:04.300 Vancouver City Council, and you're not going to believe this, but take a look at the tweet here.

00:22:09.800 Morgaine Ogre says, City of Vancouver grants 2019 funding to the Vancouver Rape Relief as termination

00:22:20.500 funding. VRR is no longer eligible for funding until it makes changes to become aligned with the grant

00:22:28.180 criteria. Let me translate into English. Since the rape shelter doesn't let men into the actual shelter, 1.00

00:22:37.000 just women, they will no longer get money. And the trans community is thrilled with this blow for 1.00

00:22:45.160 justice. Joining us now to talk about this insanity is our friend Barbara Kay, columnist at the National

00:22:51.720 Post and other interesting places. Barbara, great to see you again. Nice to be here, Ezra. I am so

00:22:57.720 disturbed by this story. In my book on the Human Rights Commission's a decade ago, I studied the case

00:23:03.460 of Vancouver Rape Relief. It is an outstanding charity for the most vulnerable and victimized

00:23:09.020 people in society, rape victims. It's where they can go to be safe from a rapist, whether it's their

00:23:16.360 husband or a man on the street or whatever. It's a high security facility, obviously, because sometimes

00:23:23.820 predatory men try to get in. And so they have a strict rule. No men are allowed in the actual rape 0.99

00:23:31.180 shelter. If men want to help, they can fundraise or do other things, but they may not enter its 0.53

00:23:36.660 sanctum. However, about 10 years ago, there was this six-foot-something trans man who called himself

00:23:44.160 Kimberly Nixon who said, I demand access to the women, because it was an affirmation that he was 0.51

00:23:50.300 a girl too. And they went all the way to the Court of Appeals, spent over 100 grand in legals before they

00:23:54.860 won the right to say no to men. Because you can imagine, Barbara, you're a woman in there and you see 0.82

00:23:59.920 someone, is that a man? Is that a woman? Is that someone sneaking in? It would be terrifying. And

00:24:03.780 there were rape victims who testified in court and said if there were trans men in there, they

00:24:08.380 wouldn't have gone to this rape shelter. They would go out on the street instead. Well, now,

00:24:12.520 Morgaine Ogre and the trans activist community finally won, and they've defunded this rape shelter.

00:24:19.020 Sorry, I'm ranting, Barbara. Please take it away. I couldn't be more angry. And I'm supposed to be the

00:24:24.580 right-winger, but I'm defending a rape shelter on behalf of feminists. 1.00

00:24:27.940 I know. And I'm with you. There are many things that Megan Murphy and I would not agree on,

00:24:34.300 but we're certainly lined up on this one. And I should say right away, this place, which is for

00:24:39.820 women only, does not mean that men don't get raped. Men as men. There's plenty of men that get raped all 0.97

00:24:46.260 the time. There are gay men that get raped all the time. They also don't have access to this place 1.00

00:24:51.020 because this is a place for women only. And I actually have spent a lot of time professionally 0.99

00:24:56.640 promoting the idea of men's shelters. There are very few of them because men do suffer violence

00:25:03.060 from women, from other men, and they really need their own shelters. And as a result of a lot of 0.94

00:25:08.660 people agitating, they are starting to get them. So that's just a sidebar. This does not only,

00:25:14.240 you know, it's not just trans women that are excluded, it's any male bodied person. So, you know,

00:25:22.820 they're crying as though they are the only ones excluded. That is not the case. So the Supreme Court

00:25:30.280 has said that women's shelters are an exception to the general rule of, you know, this gender expression

00:25:38.580 thing and that physiology, anatomy does matter in certain instances. This rape shelter serves 1.00

00:25:46.900 indigenous women, prostitutes, all kind of women who are afraid of men and for good reason. And that when 1.00

00:25:54.800 I say men, they are afraid of anatomical men, whether they're in a dress and lipstick, it doesn't matter to

00:26:02.060 women who are survivors of rape. So it is scandalous, beyond scandalous, that you have officials like

00:26:10.320 this idiot mayor, who is calling Megan Murphy despicable, because she wants to protect women, 1.00

00:26:19.380 actual, real women, from being erased. And that is a term, by the way, that is now being used or has 1.00

00:26:29.640 been used for some time. And I concur, absolutely. These, the rights, trans women's rights very often

00:26:36.900 mean women's erasure in spaces that were women's only, like prisons and locker rooms. I'm ranting now

00:26:45.540 too, Esri. You better shut me up before I, you know, go off the deep end.

00:26:49.720 You know what? I hadn't been paying close attention to this whole trans debate in, and it's very hot in

00:26:55.640 B.C. I just didn't feel like I wanted to get into that. It just didn't feel like one of the most

00:27:01.780 important quarrels of our time, until I learned what Jonathan Yaniv, who calls himself Jessica Yaniv,

00:27:09.960 but really, other than wearing a muumuu and putting on a fright wig, he doesn't, I mean, he hasn't got the

00:27:15.580 surgery, he hasn't, like, I think he, I mean, just a few months ago, he was a sexual predator, 0.91

00:27:21.940 speaking sexually to minor girls as a man. It's so evident to me that he's just trying a new shtick 0.80

00:27:31.740 and getting away with it. Just the other day on Twitter, he posted a picture of himself. Take a

00:27:36.820 look at this. It's Jonathan Yaniv. I mean, he's calling himself Jessica, and he's saying,

00:27:41.760 it's a pool party, but I can't go in because it's my period, and I forgot my tampons. Now, he's a male.

00:27:48.540 He does not menstruate. He does not have a period. That is delusional, but the whole thing is a big

00:27:55.900 dare, a big taunt. Do you say the emperor has no clothes? And it's not just a, it's not an abstract

00:28:02.740 debate anymore, Barbara, because he forced himself on more than a dozen estheticians. He said, wax my

00:28:10.400 genitals. If you don't, I'll take you to court. And now they're saying to a real rape shelter, 1.00

00:28:15.540 allow trans men, trans women in, or we'll take away your money. So it's not just a goofy debate 0.96

00:28:23.160 anymore. They're hurting people now. Sure. Like this Jonathan Yaniv, Jessica Yaniv, who is either

00:28:30.740 delusional or some kind of performance artist who's testing the waters for some reason of his own,

00:28:41.540 or he's very troubled individual who fantasizes, but he seems to have a fetish about young girls

00:28:48.640 menstruating. And so he would like to see himself in a pool with young girls. And he would like to

00:28:54.840 see himself in a pool with young girls on the basis of the fact that he identifies with them,

00:28:59.880 because he is a woman. So someday, perhaps we will see Jonathan Yaniv in a pool with young girls,

00:29:06.080 because, you know, the pool, the YMCA or whatever it is, gets their funds from officials that will say

00:29:13.320 if this guy identifies as a 14-year-old menstruating girl, who are we to say he isn't one? And in the 0.89

00:29:19.800 pool he goes with some, you know, with a bunch of young women. So it's the same principle. You know, 0.57

00:29:25.680 when you allow your intelligence to be completely obscured by a theory that is based in the subjective

00:29:35.180 belief of individuals who want to be affirmed in a belief that isn't a reality, then this is what

00:29:44.840 you get. And people suffer for it. Real people suffer for it. And in this case, it's real women 1.00

00:29:51.800 who have to share intimate, private space with anatomically male individuals who want us to

00:29:59.620 believe that their belief that they, because they feel like a woman in their head, that the rest of

00:30:09.420 their life must be mapped out in a way that never offends them, that never, where reality never intrudes

00:30:16.380 on their fantasy life. And innocent women suffer for this. And why should they? It's the same in the

00:30:23.200 sports world. I'm sure you've seen lots of examples of male, physiologically male athletes who are now

00:30:30.840 competing as women and erasing women, promising women athletes that would have been elite gold medalists, 0.91

00:30:38.760 silver medalists, are now losing those medals to physiological males.

00:30:43.660 Yeah, you know, when you're so right, and I want to talk about the gender affirming, that phrase. And what that

00:30:50.420 means is I, and it's a phrase here, let me show you a quick clip from when our reporter Jessica

00:30:55.760 Svetonovsky interviewed Jonathan Yaniv. He said, she asked him, why do you have the right to force

00:31:03.360 yourself on these women? And he was, he couldn't have been calmer about it. He says, because I have the

00:31:08.080 right to gender affirming services, as in I have the right, or what he really meant was the power

00:31:15.760 to compel people to say, yes, you are a woman, by letting him do things that only women can do. 0.99

00:31:23.480 So it's proof he's not mad. It's proof he's a woman, because he's forced people to affirm it. 0.73

00:31:29.020 Look at this very quick clip from Jessica's 20-minute expo, say, on Yaniv the other week. Take a look.

00:31:33.980 Why is it a human rights case in your situation, and not for the women that are refusing service, 0.99

00:31:40.260 either not comfortable for religious reasons, or personal reasons, or not trained in dealing with

00:31:45.120 male generals? Basically, it's a human right, because, you know, this is the gender affirming

00:31:49.980 care service. Barbara, I think that's the point there. Why did Kimberly Nixon, a six foot something 1.00

00:31:55.240 trans, want to go to a rape shelter? Because that's the ultimate, ultimate, ultimate proof that he was 1.00

00:32:01.940 a woman. And so whatever the most extremely intimate thing you can think of, the most sacred feminine

00:32:11.760 thing you can think of, whatever it is, it will be targeted by trans activists precisely, because that's 0.62

00:32:18.620 the ultimate proof that, yes, I really am a woman. So it's not a coincidence that Yaniv targeted 14 women

00:32:26.320 who didn't want to wax his genitals, where he could have gone to someone who did. It's because he wanted 0.91

00:32:32.640 to prove to all of them that they had to. It's not a coincidence that they're attacking this rape shelter,

00:32:37.680 because they'll extinguish any sector of society that won't go along with the delusion.

00:32:44.440 Yeah, you're right. It is about power. It has nothing to do with gender expression. 1.00

00:32:50.220 These are extremely, they're not only deluded physiologically male individuals, I find them

00:32:58.560 quite misogynistic, because they're angry. They're angry at women who are born women. They're angry

00:33:05.880 because those women have an advantage over them in having the bodies that they wish they had, 1.00

00:33:11.820 but don't. And so if they can convince the rest of the world to say, but there is no difference,

00:33:18.080 there is no difference. And bodies, anatomy, physiology is totally irrelevant. It's all in your head.

00:33:25.220 And you're defining it as the emperor has no clothes. I mean, it truly is. We are truly witnessing

00:33:34.380 this social situation of the entire systemically legal world, the social world, the cultural world

00:33:43.200 is one by one, they're all falling over themselves to say, what magnificent clothes you are wearing,

00:33:50.600 you trans people. You are so beautiful. Your raiment is so beautiful. Except that they're saying, 0.89

00:33:58.260 oh, you are a woman. Oh, yes, you are a woman. And don't listen to what these terrible people who 0.93

00:34:04.600 say you are naked, they are despicable people. Barbara, you know, I learned a word from our 1.00

00:34:09.940 Sheila Gunn read, I did not know this word, autogynephilia. Oh, yes, I know that word very well. 0.99

00:34:16.480 I didn't know that. Maybe you can define it, because I think I know what it means. I looked

00:34:20.260 it up. Yes, this is a sexologist, Dr. Ray Blanchard, who's been researching in this field,

00:34:28.260 one of the longest researching sexologists, and who used to be taken very seriously by everybody,

00:34:33.860 because he spoke truth, is somebody that the trans people can't stand. They don't like him at all. 0.98

00:34:41.920 He defined this term autogynephilia for those trans people, trans women who take erotic pleasure 1.00

00:34:53.260 in imagining themselves as a woman. They don't want to be a woman in the sense of someone who 0.98

00:35:02.280 lives life as either a lesbian or a heterosexual woman who has a mate, you know, who falls in love

00:35:08.640 and has relationships with other people. Their relationship is actually with themselves

00:35:14.440 in their fantasy world of, you know, being the woman is satisfied or acting as a woman

00:35:24.000 is satisfying enough in itself. So it's, this is a form of, I don't know what to call it,

00:35:32.800 gender or sexual fetishism or whatever you want to call it, that is distinct from somebody who

00:35:39.640 actually wants, is a trans person who then wants to live the life of a normal, you know,

00:35:50.040 trans person, woman of the opposite or a person of the opposite sex. And I have met a couple of 1.00

00:35:56.540 normal, what I would call normal trans women in the sense that once they have transitioned, 0.95

00:36:02.320 they go about their life, they have a job, they have a partner or they don't have a partner or

00:36:07.040 whatever. But they don't spend their life obsessing over their, their, their expressed sexuality as a

00:36:18.860 woman. Or I think, I think, uh, somebody who fits that profile is, um, Caitlyn Jenner, you know,

00:36:25.960 very fixated on the look, the, the glamour, the hair that pose on, um, glamour magazine in the,

00:36:33.080 in the bustier, you know, this is a 70 year old, you know, woman, uh, wearing a bustier. This is not 0.98

00:36:40.680 normal behavior, uh, but very, very, um, uh, very, very focused on the glamour aspect of womanhood and

00:36:50.480 a, and a kind of glamorousness by the way, that hasn't really been in popular for the last 40 or

00:36:58.840 50 years. I mean, it's kind of like a Hollywood in the 1950s sort of glamour, uh, that, that is

00:37:05.080 typically expressed by these people. Yeah. You know, uh, as part of our Jessica Svetonovsky's, uh,

00:37:11.360 study on, on Yaniv, we talked to another trans person named Jen Smith, who goes by he still,

00:37:18.480 who reminds us that about half of the people who transition, gender dysphoria is accompanied by

00:37:25.940 other mental illness as well. And in the past, these were called mental illnesses, but now it's

00:37:32.420 called a political right. Um, I just, I think a lot of conservatives would normally say live and

00:37:40.460 let live, don't tread on me, ain't nobody's business, but their own, just consenting adults.

00:37:45.780 Like there would be a lot of libertarian instincts to let someone be someone as long as it's just their

00:37:50.580 own private adult life. But what I find terrifying is how, and the Human Rights Commission cases are the

00:37:59.160 perfect example of this, that the law and social pressure and censorship is not being used as a

00:38:06.200 shield to protect anybody. It's being used as a sword to attack those who ideologically dissent.

00:38:14.780 And in that way, these sexual minorities that until the recent past were the victims of abuse

00:38:21.180 are now becoming attackers and abusers themselves. There's no way to look at Yaniv as anything other 0.69

00:38:27.960 than a predator, whether a sexual predator or a political predator, a legal predator. And, and I, 0.99

00:38:33.360 I think this will not end well. And, and I wonder how you think it'll end because when I see the mayor

00:38:39.380 of Vancouver condemning a feminist as despicable for wanting to, to keep trans men out of a rape center,

00:38:46.940 I think this has gone pretty far. When will it break? Is it when we have an all male lineup at the 1.00

00:38:53.180 women's Olympics events? It's all trans? Like, when does this insanity end? 1.00

00:38:58.460 I'm not sure, maybe not in my lifetime, but I will tell you this, that this Morgaine Ogre is a person

00:39:04.440 who saw somebody, a protester at a demonstration, some kind of, I forget what kind of demonstration,

00:39:12.140 had a sign up saying, a male is not a woman, or something like that. A man is not, a man is not a woman. 0.96

00:39:20.280 And, uh, Morgaine Ogre, uh, tweeted out or put on Facebook to, uh, his followers, uh, can somebody

00:39:29.540 find out who this woman is? I want her name and address. I want to take her to the Human Rights 0.99

00:39:34.880 Commission. In other words, this is, this is somebody who is the, was the deputy vice president

00:39:40.140 of the NDP, the BC NDP. And this is the kind of behavior, doxing and, and threatening to harass

00:39:46.280 and bring someone to the Human Rights Commission. You know, two years ago or three years ago, when,

00:39:50.940 when Jordan Peterson made those initial videos, uh, about a bill C C 16. And he said, uh, compelling

00:39:58.740 people to use certain pronouns is the tip of an iceberg. And someday it will end up, it could end

00:40:06.340 up with people going to jail over this. And everybody said, Oh, please, such exaggeration and

00:40:10.900 such nonsense. Uh, where are you going with that? It's just ridiculous. Uh, but I do see people going

00:40:16.260 to jail over this. I can see it quite easily. And, uh, when you have a library that is being

00:40:23.540 supposedly punished by not being allowed in a parade because they are exercising the law,

00:40:27.980 they're, they're performing their legal obligations to allow people on both sides of an argument to have

00:40:33.780 their say. Um, we are very far down what a road that, um, uh, a psychology professor that I thought

00:40:42.500 I think very highly of. He's the late John Fruity, uh, said he called it velvet totalitarianism.

00:40:49.180 And, uh, we are immersed right now in a scenario that I would label velvet totalitarianism, but it's

00:40:57.540 not so velvet anymore. Is it Ezra? I would say now, uh, we're walking into a scenario that is,

00:41:03.260 uh, what we might call actual, uh, totalitarianism. Well, Barbara, it appears to be my destiny in

00:41:10.840 life to, to be entangled in these free speech matters, whether it was the Danish cartoons a

00:41:18.080 dozen years ago, various censorship issues today, or by covering Yaniv, the threats he has made against

00:41:25.240 us seem to be hurtling us towards a legal, uh, battle. And I don't like it. It's not my first choice,

00:41:33.000 but neither will I run from it. And in some perverse way, I think it's our destiny at the

00:41:38.160 rebel to fight these fights in a place that maybe, uh, a minimum wage esthetician, new immigrant woman 1.00

00:41:44.500 in Vancouver cannot. Yeah. Well, uh, Ezra, you're one of the very few media outlets that, uh, has the,

00:41:53.480 I was going to say, uh, to, uh, to, uh, call out this issue for what it is. And, and while,

00:42:09.320 while praising you, I'd also like to praise Maxime Bernier because lately he tweeted, uh, about what

00:42:16.480 kind of nonsense this is. And he would, he would not stand for any of this nonsense if he were in

00:42:21.540 power. And I know he is not going to be in power, uh, this time around, but I tweeted back to him.

00:42:27.180 I said, you know, uh, thanks to Maxime Bernier for having the nerve or the, whatever it takes,

00:42:34.380 the courage to bill this ideological cat. Uh, and for that reason alone, I would vote for him. And I'm

00:42:41.760 not kidding. Uh, this is the big, this is one of the big free speech issues of our time. I think it,

00:42:47.760 uh, I think it punches above its weight in terms of the consequences that we'll have for society. Uh,

00:42:52.640 if we don't stand up to this, if everybody who doesn't see how nonsensical this is, doesn't stand

00:42:58.480 up and lend their voice, uh, to this, uh, to this issue, uh, then we will, uh, regret it, deeply regret it.

00:43:05.380 We are already seeing, uh, stuff happening that we should deeply regret with regard to

00:43:11.680 children and how confused, uh, they are being made to feel. So, um, yeah, big political issue,

00:43:18.060 Ezra. I applaud you. I applaud you for the stance that you're taking and Godspeed to you.

00:43:23.640 Well, thank you. And the feeling is mutual. You are one of the few voices with access to the

00:43:28.520 mainstream media in Canada who still courageously speaks out you and Rex Murphy. And I'm almost on

00:43:34.340 the list, uh, just with the two of you, because we saw if a feminist like Megan Murphy can be just 1.00

00:43:40.980 killed off Twitter. Um, you really do risk, uh, if, if you think the censorship of Islamophobia mania

00:43:49.060 is hard, it's nothing compared to the trans issue in my entire life. I've never seen censorship come

00:43:56.340 quicker, uh, or, or with less notice than on the trans issue. Yeah. And with more power, with more power 0.91

00:44:04.380 to, uh, obliterate, uh, the opposition, I've never seen anything like it either. It's, it's quite scary

00:44:09.620 to me. Yeah. Well, good luck to you. And thanks for taking the time with us. As always, it's great

00:44:13.520 to see you, my friend. Thank you, Ezra. Thank you. There you have it, Barbara Kay, one of the few

00:44:17.700 courageous voices on this subject. You can read her columns in the National Post and the Post Millennial.

00:44:23.360 Stay with us. More ahead on the road.

00:44:35.780 Hey, what do you think of that public policy forum survey? You can find the whole thing online pretty

00:44:40.220 quick. I'll see if we can put a link to it on the page. Um, it's a little scholarly. I'm not sure if I

00:44:47.080 agree with all the premises in it and I'm worried about its purpose, but I think it makes us look

00:44:51.480 sort of tough. I mean, if, if we're as large as McLean's magazine, do you know how huge they are?

00:44:58.000 They used to be the big deal. I guess part of it is they've fallen, but we've grown. We're just a,

00:45:05.440 like a, like a nose behind the Toronto star. I think, what were they? 20% of Canadians follow them

00:45:12.640 and 16% follow us. We're going from memory. I'm sorry. They're monster huge, like almost billion

00:45:19.680 dollar huge. We're one 10th of 1% of that, maybe, maybe a little more. Um, and we're just like a

00:45:26.280 tiny bit behind them. I think we're rocking and forgive me for tooting our own horn, but I, it's

00:45:31.720 just, I've never had anyone else toot it before. So I want to show you that anyways, listen, thanks

00:45:36.120 for watching the show until next time on behalf of all of us here at rebel world headquarters to

00:45:40.140 you at home. Good night. Keep fighting for freedom.

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