How many people watch The Rebel？ How many Liberals？ You might be surprised...
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A think tank did a survey of Canadians of what media they rely on for their politics, and they measured The Rebel. And I m glad they did, because you know what? Our critics don t even talk about us in public like Voldemort. They don't even say our name in public.
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Hello, my Rebels. I've got a story today that I hope you like. It's actually about us. It's about
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the Rebel. A think tank called the Public Policy Forum did a survey of Canadians of what media they
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rely on for their politics. And they measured the Rebel. And I'm glad they did, because you know
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what? Our critics don't like to even talk about us. We're like Voldemort. They don't even say our
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name in public. So to have it studied in a somewhat scholarly way was very, I was very curious. It's
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the first time it's happened. And I'm very pleased with the results. And I'll tell you the results
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in a moment. Before I do, let me invite you to become a premium subscriber. That's eight bucks
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a month, 80 bucks a year. We'll give you a discount if you enter the coupon code podcast. You can do
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all that at the rebel.media slash shows. You get the video version of this podcast. That's good.
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We've got a couple other shows for you too. David Menzies, Sheila Gunn-Reed. And you know what? I
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think, well, you tell me. I think today's podcast has good news in it. What do you think? Here it is.
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You're listening to a Rebel Media Podcast. Tonight, how big is the rebel? How many people
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watch us? How many liberals do? You might be surprised. It's August 22nd, and this is the
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my
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You know, I tell you from time to time how many viewers we have of the Rebel, you probably
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get tired of hearing it. It probably sounds boastful, and I guess it probably is. But
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I see it as other things too. Proof that the mainstream media doesn't properly reflect
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Canadians. And that there's a huge unmet demand for the other side of the story. The side
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of the story that the CBC and the Toronto Star and others just don't need.
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I take it as proof that although a small chorus of haters smear us all the time, calling us every
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mean name the left has, racist, Islamophobic, transphobic, whatever the latest thing is,
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that's just a small clique of mean girls, often our competitors or people just jealous of our reach.
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For every hater, there's 50, 100 fans. I don't know. I can see this almost every day,
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actually, literally, when I look at the likes versus dislikes button on every YouTube video we do.
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You know on YouTube, people can immediately give you a thumbs up or a thumbs down, right? It's like
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Facebook. It's not rare for our stats, and you can see this yourself, to be 100 thumbs up for every
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thumbs down. And then there's just the raw view count. We've had nearly half a billion views on
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YouTube, 2 billion minutes of video, and even more than that on Facebook and Twitter. And that's huge.
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On any given day, we have more views than CBC's The National, their flagship show, which is languishing
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at, what, like 250,000 views per night? Maybe. We've had a great week recently. We've been covering
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very important stories in Hong Kong, exposing the bizarre story of Jonathan Yaniv, that trans scammer.
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We've had double, triple, quadruple what the CBC had every day. They hate that at the CBC. Our budget at
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The Rebel is not even 1% of what theirs is. But we have more viewers than them on any given night.
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And our viewers' average age is just about 30 years old. The average viewer at CBC The National
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is around 65 years old. Now, I've got nothing against people who are 65 years old. I'm actually
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exactly halfway between those two milestones, 30 and 65. I'm just saying, for all of their cringe-worthy
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efforts to seem relevant and hip and young, it's not working. No one wants, no young people
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want to watch the CBC. I've shown you the absolutely worst part of the CBC, their bizarre kids news
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channel, which just obsesses over drug use and the hyper-sexualization of minor children. It's so
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gross. It's as if Xi'an Gomeshi was never sacked from the CBC, and they put him and Jeffrey Epstein
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in charge of the TV programming at a kindergarten. It is that gross, CBC Kids News. Thankfully,
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so few Canadians watch it. Seriously, on any given night, less than 1% of Canadians watch
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CBC News, but 100% of us have to pay for it. So you've heard me say things like that before,
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but for some reason, it's more exciting for me to hear someone else say it, because so few
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people say it, other than our own viewers, as in the establishment is terrified to talk about us,
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let alone to praise us, because they'll be demonized too. I mean, the weirdest part is that
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we're obviously the most important conservative voice in Canadian media, certainly on the video
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side, but the two leading conservative politicians in the country, Andrew Scheer and Jason Kenney,
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they won't even talk to us. They're afraid of being labeled the same mean names we are by the mean
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girls in the media party. P.S. guys, you're going to be called those names anyways, so you may as
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well talk to your base. But just last night, Andrew Scheer said we wouldn't be allowed on his campaign
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bus. I got to be candid, it wasn't exactly high up on our bucket list. We'll cover this election
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campaign how and where we like, and that probably doesn't mean sitting in the back of his bus with
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all those CBC and Toronto Star lads. By the way, good luck with the CBC and the Toronto Star.
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Um, I mean, I know the conservatives like them more. I'm sure they'll give you fair coverage
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in return. It's so weird. But back to us, if I may, um, I don't know if you saw this a week or two
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ago, something called the Public Policy Forum. That's a, that's an academic-ish think tank based
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in Ottawa, funded by governments and lobby groups mainly. Um, they're bored. It's a snapshot of the
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establishment, really. CEOs, some bureaucrats on there, some scholars. Um, well, they did a study about the
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Canadian media called the Digital Democracy Project. Research memo number one, media, knowledge, and
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misinformation. Okay. Uh, sounds interesting. Uh, let me quote a bit from it, if I may. Um, I'm just
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going to read from the study. The project will study the media ecosystem in the run-up to and during
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Canada's October 2019 federal election by monitoring digital and social media and by conducting both
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regular national surveys and a study of a metered sample of online consumption. The project will
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communicate its preliminary research findings publicly on a regular basis from August to October
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2019 and will work with journalists to analyze the spread and impact of misinformation. The study
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will culminate in a final report to be published by March 2020. Both the project's preliminary findings
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and final report will be publicly available. Now, the obsession with rooting out fake news and
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misinformation on the internet, I know enough to know that's code for deplatforming and throttling and
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silencing conservative dissidents. I'm sorry, that's just what it means. That's always what they say just before
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they delete your account. The left are obsessed with the concept of fake news and misinformation, even though
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they're the purveyors of it, whether it's, I don't know, their conspiracy theory about the Russia collusion, which was
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debunked, or global warming theories, or I don't know if anyone on the left believes that Jeffrey
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Epstein actually committed suicide. I don't know. I think conspiracy theories are rife on the left. They
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just all share those views together. Anyways, I see those who talk about, well, we got to hunt down fake
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news, misinformation. They never mean the fake news on their side. They mean conservatives. I saw it at that
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liberal defend media freedom conference in the UK that I went to in July. It was not actually about media
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freedom at all. I mean, Trudeau himself couldn't have been clearer when he threatened Facebook,
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remember, to either shut down his critics on Facebook on their own, or he would force them to
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shut them down. And I see that this study in particular was bankrolled in part by that left-wing
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media tycoon Pierre Omidyar, the same one who managed to somehow select all the panelists at that same
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censorship conference in London. Boy, they sure didn't like me asking them about that when I raised that
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obvious conflict of interest back then. I don't know if you saw that video. So the whole premise
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here is tilted towards regulation and government involvement in the media. But still, it's a study
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done with at least some semblance of scholarly rigor. And like I say, other than just tooting our own
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horn, we don't get a lot of industry feedback other than the weird passive-aggressive thing where
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some of our most agitated competitors at the same time pretend they don't even think about us,
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but also obsess about us at the same time. And always, always try to get other people to stop
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paying attention to us, even though they can't stop paying attention to us, like these two.
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Rebel Media came in and did a crowdfunding project for you, raised about $200,000.
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After Charlottesville and the riots, the protests there, many people cut ties with Rebel Media,
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including the Conservative leader Andrew Scheer, saying that it could be seen as giving hate groups
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a platform. You still go on there. So I'm wondering, why do you go on Rebel Media after Charlottesville?
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Why is he working with people who were associated with Rebel Media and Ezra Levant?
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Your campaign director, Hamish Marshall, was a director of the corporation until he became
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your campaign director. Stephen Taylor is working on social media with you, was also associated with
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Rebel Media. To what point are you taking on the baggage of Rebel Media when you work with folks
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like that? Easy, guys. We know you're both taking Trudeau bailouts from the CBC directly,
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or McLean's get huge government money. Guys, you'll both be fine, even if no one watches your CBC show
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or reads your McLean's articles. You'll both get plenty of money from Trudeau, guys. Just calm down,
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okay. I'll get back to both of those two media in question in a moment, because this study compares
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us to them. Are you interested about that? Let me read to you a few of the study's political
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findings. Here's one. The findings of our first report are somewhat at odds with the now familiar
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story of a fragmented and low-trust media environment in which political actors and their
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partisan supporters have retreated to their own media echo chambers, creating fertile ground for
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disinformation and foreign interference to take root. Instead, we found that Canadians are more
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likely to receive their political news from traditional mainstream media outlets. All right,
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I guess so. But I'm skeptical. I mean, CBC viewership numbers continue to plunge down about 70% in 10 or 15
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years, even though Canada's population is at a record level. Newspapers are closing every month,
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every week sometimes, it seems. And those that stay open have shrinking readerships. I simply don't
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believe that mainstream media are dominant in real life. I just doubt that people still consume them
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in significant quantity. But I believe they do consume many antidotes to them online. That's just my
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hunch, though. This is a study. I'll read some more. They say, alternative media sources that cover
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politics from an ideological perspective, e.g. The Rebel, Postmillennial, Rabble, do not crack the top 20
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news sources in the survey. However, they enjoy more prominence on Twitter among users of the top
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Canadian political hashtags who share links to news sites, which is an indication that the
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conversation on Twitter does not necessarily reflect the perspectives of the Canadian population
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at large. Oh, well, I think the population at large isn't very political, which is a good thing
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about Canada generally. Most people are normal and lead normal lives. I'll get back to our ranking in a
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moment, though. I like this point. They say, the one troubling point seems to be that while social
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media exposure is associated with higher levels of misinformation, so is exposure to traditional or
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mainstream media, though to a lesser extent. In general, it appears that simply consuming news,
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regardless of source, makes people susceptible to being misinformed about the issues. So in other words,
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fake news or misinformation is everywhere that there is news at all, because people are everywhere,
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and people sometimes get it wrong, and people sometimes misunderstand, and people all have
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their biases, but mainly, who gets to decide what's fake or not? In this case, the studies scholars do.
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How do they know? I've shown you examples before of the CBC's fact-checked feature. It's not a fact-checked
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feature. It's just liberal war room talking points shouting at conservatives, say, you're wrong about
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immigration. You're wrong about global warming. So that's not a fact-checked. That's not misinformation.
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That's just called having a different point of view. And the fact that the default is liberal means
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that anyone conservative is called misinformation, but it's not, guys. But at least this study notes
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that the mainstream media gets it wrong, despite their pretense otherwise. Can I read my favorite
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quote from this whole study? I'm going to read this to you twice and slowly, because it's so gorgeous.
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Ready? Survey respondents who read or watched more traditional news media were less likely to
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express uncertainty about policy questions than those with low consumption, but more likely to
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give an incorrect response. Did you get there? Let me read that again. Survey respondents who read or
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watched more traditional news media were less likely to express uncertainty about policy questions
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than those with low consumption, but more likely to give an incorrect response.
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So if you're watching the CBC and CTV and global, if you're reading a mainstream newspaper,
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you're more likely to get your facts wrong, but you're more likely to be extra certain about
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yourself. So ignorant and arrogant. Yeah, that rings true. Ignorant and arrogant. That could be the
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motto of the media party, I think. Look, I'm skeptical of some things in the study, especially given
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Pierre Omidyar's funding of it. I mean, that's a huge red flag. That would be like George Soros
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funding it. Omidyar really is a George Soros wannabe. He's buying up media around the world,
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very partisan media. Some of the cozy connections between the liberals and the think tank raised an
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alarm bell for me, but at least it's a study. They're supposed to just partisan talking points
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to the liberals and most of their Me Too echo chambers. But really, my point today is to show
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you how we're doing. Let me show you. Look at the chart on page six. That's a big list of different
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Canadian media sources. And it asks people, have you consumed certain media content in the past
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week? Now, it's a weird chart. They just have Facebook on there, but Facebook's not a publisher,
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really. Every other media is on Facebook. So I think that's weird. CBC's on Facebook. We're on
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Facebook. So there's strange things on there like Facebook. But they actually have some media
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companies. And look at this. 42% of Canadians say they've watched CBC at least once in the past
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week. That's probably true. CTV and global news are up there too in the mid and high 30s. The big
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U.S. liberal website, the Huffington Post, is at 33%. 23% for the Globe and Mail, 21% for the National
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Post, 20% for the Toronto Star. Those are huge companies. Billion dollar companies, or at least
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they used to be in the case of those newspapers. Now it's probably more accurate to say they're worth
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hundreds of millions of dollars. So 20% for the Toronto Star. That's the largest newspaper in
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Canada by circulation. One in five Canadians say they saw something in the Star in the last
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week. But look at the rebel. 16%. That's just as big as Maclean's magazine, that 100-year-old
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magazine owned by Rogers, a cell phone company, stuffed with government bailout money. We were
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literally born four and a half years ago. We live on a shoestring, no corporate money,
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no government money. And we have as many Canadians viewing us in a week as do Maclean's. I can see why
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Paul Wells is angry about that, that little guy. Why is he working with people who were associated
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with Rebel Media and Ezra Levant? Your campaign director, Hamish Marshall, was a director of the
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corporation until he became your campaign director. Stephen Taylor is working on social media with you,
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was also associated with Rebel Media. To what point are you taking on the baggage of Rebel Media
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when you work with folks like that? Easy, tiger. Don't be jealous now.
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CBC Radio, the supposedly mighty CBC Radio, is listened to by 22% of people in any given week,
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at least for a moment. Okay, they say so. I think the CBC is just so ubiquitous in its propaganda,
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and there has been for so long, 75 years of propaganda from the state broadcaster.
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You probably think you've listened to it, even if you haven't, you're just so used to it. Whereas
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we don't spend a dime on advertising. If you've heard of the Rebel, you've actually heard of the
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Rebel. And we're just a hair behind these mighty names in terms of viewership. But look at the chart
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on page seven. That's broken down by party. You see that? Conservative, Liberal, NDP. Which party
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members view us the most? Well, no surprise, conservatives do. 22% of conservatives watch us in any given
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week. We're huge in conservative circles, no matter if Andrew Scheer doesn't talk to us. I think
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conservatives trust us maybe even more than they trust, you know, a dairy cartel supporting open
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borders, mass immigration, climate change booster. Maybe they actually want us and watch us because
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they know we check up on Scheer and try and keep him honest. We criticize him in good faith when it's a
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good, when it's a criticism, unlike the rest of the media, which is gotcha. And we make sure he stays
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conservative, unlike the rest of the media who want him to move left. Anyways, look at the Liberal and the
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NDP numbers, though. Only 12% of NDPers view us every week. No problem. That's actually amazingly good
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still. I mean, for example, only 8% of them read Maclean's, by contrast. And look at that. 19% of Liberals
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watch a Rebel video at least once a week. Isn't that something? I wonder if they watch because they want to
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hear the other side of the story. That's our motto. Or just for the entertainment value of our
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presentation or, I don't know, to know what their critics think. I don't know. Whatever it is. Hey,
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guys, you're welcome. I'm glad you're watching. I'm a little surprised, but you're very welcome here.
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I am candid. I want to try to convince you of our way of thinking, but I won't censor you or
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deplatform you if you don't. Maybe that's why you like us. One last stat. For tweets using Canadian
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political hashtags that linked to media websites, the Postmillennial, Rabble, True North News, and
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Rebel Media are among the 20 most frequently shared websites, despite not placing in the top 20 sources,
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new sources in the survey data. Isn't that curious? I've written to the think tank asking for a little
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more info on that. But if I'm reading that right, it says that although we rank below, as I showed you
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in that first chart, we rank below the National Post or the World Mail when it comes to the sheer
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number of readers. Of course we do. It's amazing we're doing as well as we are. But it's amazing
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that we're in the top 20 when it comes to things like normal people actually sharing our stuff on
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Twitter. I'll see if I can get more info on that. Wouldn't it be something if we had more natural,
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organic sharing in social media than, say, CBC Radio online at least? I don't know. We'll find out.
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I don't have much more on this story. I'm worried about the purpose of this survey. I think it was
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designed to be used by liberals like Justin Trudeau and Karina Gould to silence their enemies.
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Trudeau has said as much. Gould has actually set up a five-man board of censors for new media.
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There was going to be chaired by that gross Michael Wernick, clerk of the Privy Council,
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before he was sacked. That's still happening, that board of censors. And Andrew Scheer hasn't
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objected, actually. So I'm worried all this will be used for the purpose of silencing voices like
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ours and other small voices on the right. Or maybe we're not so small after all, which is exactly why
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they want to silence us. We'll see. The public policy forum, the think tank here, says they will do
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more studies, ongoing studies, through the election campaign. Keep your eyes peeled. I actually think it's
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our time to shine. And apparently millions of Canadians seem to agree. Stay with us for more.
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The talk to be hosted at the Vancouver Public Library Central Branch in January by Megan Murphy
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is billed as a discussion on gender identity, ideology, and women's rights. But Murphy's past
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writing on her feminist blog has upset many, who say her ideas on gender identity are hurtful.
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Feminists are not going around attacking trans people. We would never do that. We're not against
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trans-identified people. Again, we're just trying to have this conversation.
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Murphy has been permanently banned from Twitter. She says for a new policy that bans something called
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deadnaming, referring to someone by the incorrect gender.
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What does it mean to be transgender? How does a man become a woman? How does a person change sex?
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What is a trans woman? You know, these are, I feel like these are basic questions that I want to talk
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about. I want to understand because I, again, I find this conversation and this ideology really incoherent.
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Well, there you have it. A feminist activist, far left, I would say, dares to ask a few basic questions
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about, well, what is a man and what is a woman? And she's banned from Twitter, denounced by the mayor
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of Vancouver as, quote, despicable. There are attempts to ban her from the public library where she gave a
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speech. And when the library didn't ban her, the library itself was banned from participating in
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the Vancouver Pride Parade. If you thought all of that was too much to believe, then you won't believe
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what happened next. A trans activist in British Columbia named Morgaine Ogre actually pressured
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Vancouver City Council, and you're not going to believe this, but take a look at the tweet here.
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Morgaine Ogre says, City of Vancouver grants 2019 funding to the Vancouver Rape Relief as termination
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funding. VRR is no longer eligible for funding until it makes changes to become aligned with the grant
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criteria. Let me translate into English. Since the rape shelter doesn't let men into the actual shelter,
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just women, they will no longer get money. And the trans community is thrilled with this blow for
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justice. Joining us now to talk about this insanity is our friend Barbara Kay, columnist at the National
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Post and other interesting places. Barbara, great to see you again. Nice to be here, Ezra. I am so
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disturbed by this story. In my book on the Human Rights Commission's a decade ago, I studied the case
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of Vancouver Rape Relief. It is an outstanding charity for the most vulnerable and victimized
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people in society, rape victims. It's where they can go to be safe from a rapist, whether it's their
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husband or a man on the street or whatever. It's a high security facility, obviously, because sometimes
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predatory men try to get in. And so they have a strict rule. No men are allowed in the actual rape
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shelter. If men want to help, they can fundraise or do other things, but they may not enter its
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sanctum. However, about 10 years ago, there was this six-foot-something trans man who called himself
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Kimberly Nixon who said, I demand access to the women, because it was an affirmation that he was
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a girl too. And they went all the way to the Court of Appeals, spent over 100 grand in legals before they
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won the right to say no to men. Because you can imagine, Barbara, you're a woman in there and you see
00:23:59.920
someone, is that a man? Is that a woman? Is that someone sneaking in? It would be terrifying. And
00:24:03.780
there were rape victims who testified in court and said if there were trans men in there, they
00:24:08.380
wouldn't have gone to this rape shelter. They would go out on the street instead. Well, now,
00:24:12.520
Morgaine Ogre and the trans activist community finally won, and they've defunded this rape shelter.
00:24:19.020
Sorry, I'm ranting, Barbara. Please take it away. I couldn't be more angry. And I'm supposed to be the
00:24:24.580
right-winger, but I'm defending a rape shelter on behalf of feminists.
00:24:27.940
I know. And I'm with you. There are many things that Megan Murphy and I would not agree on,
00:24:34.300
but we're certainly lined up on this one. And I should say right away, this place, which is for
00:24:39.820
women only, does not mean that men don't get raped. Men as men. There's plenty of men that get raped all
00:24:46.260
the time. There are gay men that get raped all the time. They also don't have access to this place
00:24:51.020
because this is a place for women only. And I actually have spent a lot of time professionally
00:24:56.640
promoting the idea of men's shelters. There are very few of them because men do suffer violence
00:25:03.060
from women, from other men, and they really need their own shelters. And as a result of a lot of
00:25:08.660
people agitating, they are starting to get them. So that's just a sidebar. This does not only,
00:25:14.240
you know, it's not just trans women that are excluded, it's any male bodied person. So, you know,
00:25:22.820
they're crying as though they are the only ones excluded. That is not the case. So the Supreme Court
00:25:30.280
has said that women's shelters are an exception to the general rule of, you know, this gender expression
00:25:38.580
thing and that physiology, anatomy does matter in certain instances. This rape shelter serves
00:25:46.900
indigenous women, prostitutes, all kind of women who are afraid of men and for good reason. And that when
00:25:54.800
I say men, they are afraid of anatomical men, whether they're in a dress and lipstick, it doesn't matter to
00:26:02.060
women who are survivors of rape. So it is scandalous, beyond scandalous, that you have officials like
00:26:10.320
this idiot mayor, who is calling Megan Murphy despicable, because she wants to protect women,
00:26:19.380
actual, real women, from being erased. And that is a term, by the way, that is now being used or has
00:26:29.640
been used for some time. And I concur, absolutely. These, the rights, trans women's rights very often
00:26:36.900
mean women's erasure in spaces that were women's only, like prisons and locker rooms. I'm ranting now
00:26:45.540
too, Esri. You better shut me up before I, you know, go off the deep end.
00:26:49.720
You know what? I hadn't been paying close attention to this whole trans debate in, and it's very hot in
00:26:55.640
B.C. I just didn't feel like I wanted to get into that. It just didn't feel like one of the most
00:27:01.780
important quarrels of our time, until I learned what Jonathan Yaniv, who calls himself Jessica Yaniv,
00:27:09.960
but really, other than wearing a muumuu and putting on a fright wig, he doesn't, I mean, he hasn't got the
00:27:15.580
surgery, he hasn't, like, I think he, I mean, just a few months ago, he was a sexual predator,
00:27:21.940
speaking sexually to minor girls as a man. It's so evident to me that he's just trying a new shtick
00:27:31.740
and getting away with it. Just the other day on Twitter, he posted a picture of himself. Take a
00:27:36.820
look at this. It's Jonathan Yaniv. I mean, he's calling himself Jessica, and he's saying,
00:27:41.760
it's a pool party, but I can't go in because it's my period, and I forgot my tampons. Now, he's a male.
00:27:48.540
He does not menstruate. He does not have a period. That is delusional, but the whole thing is a big
00:27:55.900
dare, a big taunt. Do you say the emperor has no clothes? And it's not just a, it's not an abstract
00:28:02.740
debate anymore, Barbara, because he forced himself on more than a dozen estheticians. He said, wax my
00:28:10.400
genitals. If you don't, I'll take you to court. And now they're saying to a real rape shelter,
00:28:15.540
allow trans men, trans women in, or we'll take away your money. So it's not just a goofy debate
00:28:23.160
anymore. They're hurting people now. Sure. Like this Jonathan Yaniv, Jessica Yaniv, who is either
00:28:30.740
delusional or some kind of performance artist who's testing the waters for some reason of his own,
00:28:41.540
or he's very troubled individual who fantasizes, but he seems to have a fetish about young girls
00:28:48.640
menstruating. And so he would like to see himself in a pool with young girls. And he would like to
00:28:54.840
see himself in a pool with young girls on the basis of the fact that he identifies with them,
00:28:59.880
because he is a woman. So someday, perhaps we will see Jonathan Yaniv in a pool with young girls,
00:29:06.080
because, you know, the pool, the YMCA or whatever it is, gets their funds from officials that will say
00:29:13.320
if this guy identifies as a 14-year-old menstruating girl, who are we to say he isn't one? And in the
00:29:19.800
pool he goes with some, you know, with a bunch of young women. So it's the same principle. You know,
00:29:25.680
when you allow your intelligence to be completely obscured by a theory that is based in the subjective
00:29:35.180
belief of individuals who want to be affirmed in a belief that isn't a reality, then this is what
00:29:44.840
you get. And people suffer for it. Real people suffer for it. And in this case, it's real women
00:29:51.800
who have to share intimate, private space with anatomically male individuals who want us to
00:29:59.620
believe that their belief that they, because they feel like a woman in their head, that the rest of
00:30:09.420
their life must be mapped out in a way that never offends them, that never, where reality never intrudes
00:30:16.380
on their fantasy life. And innocent women suffer for this. And why should they? It's the same in the
00:30:23.200
sports world. I'm sure you've seen lots of examples of male, physiologically male athletes who are now
00:30:30.840
competing as women and erasing women, promising women athletes that would have been elite gold medalists,
00:30:38.760
silver medalists, are now losing those medals to physiological males.
00:30:43.660
Yeah, you know, when you're so right, and I want to talk about the gender affirming, that phrase. And what that
00:30:50.420
means is I, and it's a phrase here, let me show you a quick clip from when our reporter Jessica
00:30:55.760
Svetonovsky interviewed Jonathan Yaniv. He said, she asked him, why do you have the right to force
00:31:03.360
yourself on these women? And he was, he couldn't have been calmer about it. He says, because I have the
00:31:08.080
right to gender affirming services, as in I have the right, or what he really meant was the power
00:31:15.760
to compel people to say, yes, you are a woman, by letting him do things that only women can do.
00:31:23.480
So it's proof he's not mad. It's proof he's a woman, because he's forced people to affirm it.
00:31:29.020
Look at this very quick clip from Jessica's 20-minute expo, say, on Yaniv the other week. Take a look.
00:31:33.980
Why is it a human rights case in your situation, and not for the women that are refusing service,
00:31:40.260
either not comfortable for religious reasons, or personal reasons, or not trained in dealing with
00:31:45.120
male generals? Basically, it's a human right, because, you know, this is the gender affirming
00:31:49.980
care service. Barbara, I think that's the point there. Why did Kimberly Nixon, a six foot something
00:31:55.240
trans, want to go to a rape shelter? Because that's the ultimate, ultimate, ultimate proof that he was
00:32:01.940
a woman. And so whatever the most extremely intimate thing you can think of, the most sacred feminine
00:32:11.760
thing you can think of, whatever it is, it will be targeted by trans activists precisely, because that's
00:32:18.620
the ultimate proof that, yes, I really am a woman. So it's not a coincidence that Yaniv targeted 14 women
00:32:26.320
who didn't want to wax his genitals, where he could have gone to someone who did. It's because he wanted
00:32:32.640
to prove to all of them that they had to. It's not a coincidence that they're attacking this rape shelter,
00:32:37.680
because they'll extinguish any sector of society that won't go along with the delusion.
00:32:44.440
Yeah, you're right. It is about power. It has nothing to do with gender expression.
00:32:50.220
These are extremely, they're not only deluded physiologically male individuals, I find them
00:32:58.560
quite misogynistic, because they're angry. They're angry at women who are born women. They're angry
00:33:05.880
because those women have an advantage over them in having the bodies that they wish they had,
00:33:11.820
but don't. And so if they can convince the rest of the world to say, but there is no difference,
00:33:18.080
there is no difference. And bodies, anatomy, physiology is totally irrelevant. It's all in your head.
00:33:25.220
And you're defining it as the emperor has no clothes. I mean, it truly is. We are truly witnessing
00:33:34.380
this social situation of the entire systemically legal world, the social world, the cultural world
00:33:43.200
is one by one, they're all falling over themselves to say, what magnificent clothes you are wearing,
00:33:50.600
you trans people. You are so beautiful. Your raiment is so beautiful. Except that they're saying,
00:33:58.260
oh, you are a woman. Oh, yes, you are a woman. And don't listen to what these terrible people who
00:34:04.600
say you are naked, they are despicable people. Barbara, you know, I learned a word from our
00:34:09.940
Sheila Gunn read, I did not know this word, autogynephilia. Oh, yes, I know that word very well.
00:34:16.480
I didn't know that. Maybe you can define it, because I think I know what it means. I looked
00:34:20.260
it up. Yes, this is a sexologist, Dr. Ray Blanchard, who's been researching in this field,
00:34:28.260
one of the longest researching sexologists, and who used to be taken very seriously by everybody,
00:34:33.860
because he spoke truth, is somebody that the trans people can't stand. They don't like him at all.
00:34:41.920
He defined this term autogynephilia for those trans people, trans women who take erotic pleasure
00:34:53.260
in imagining themselves as a woman. They don't want to be a woman in the sense of someone who
00:35:02.280
lives life as either a lesbian or a heterosexual woman who has a mate, you know, who falls in love
00:35:08.640
and has relationships with other people. Their relationship is actually with themselves
00:35:14.440
in their fantasy world of, you know, being the woman is satisfied or acting as a woman
00:35:24.000
is satisfying enough in itself. So it's, this is a form of, I don't know what to call it,
00:35:32.800
gender or sexual fetishism or whatever you want to call it, that is distinct from somebody who
00:35:39.640
actually wants, is a trans person who then wants to live the life of a normal, you know,
00:35:50.040
trans person, woman of the opposite or a person of the opposite sex. And I have met a couple of
00:35:56.540
normal, what I would call normal trans women in the sense that once they have transitioned,
00:36:02.320
they go about their life, they have a job, they have a partner or they don't have a partner or
00:36:07.040
whatever. But they don't spend their life obsessing over their, their, their expressed sexuality as a
00:36:18.860
woman. Or I think, I think, uh, somebody who fits that profile is, um, Caitlyn Jenner, you know,
00:36:25.960
very fixated on the look, the, the glamour, the hair that pose on, um, glamour magazine in the,
00:36:33.080
in the bustier, you know, this is a 70 year old, you know, woman, uh, wearing a bustier. This is not
00:36:40.680
normal behavior, uh, but very, very, um, uh, very, very focused on the glamour aspect of womanhood and
00:36:50.480
a, and a kind of glamorousness by the way, that hasn't really been in popular for the last 40 or
00:36:58.840
50 years. I mean, it's kind of like a Hollywood in the 1950s sort of glamour, uh, that, that is
00:37:05.080
typically expressed by these people. Yeah. You know, uh, as part of our Jessica Svetonovsky's, uh,
00:37:11.360
study on, on Yaniv, we talked to another trans person named Jen Smith, who goes by he still,
00:37:18.480
who reminds us that about half of the people who transition, gender dysphoria is accompanied by
00:37:25.940
other mental illness as well. And in the past, these were called mental illnesses, but now it's
00:37:32.420
called a political right. Um, I just, I think a lot of conservatives would normally say live and
00:37:40.460
let live, don't tread on me, ain't nobody's business, but their own, just consenting adults.
00:37:45.780
Like there would be a lot of libertarian instincts to let someone be someone as long as it's just their
00:37:50.580
own private adult life. But what I find terrifying is how, and the Human Rights Commission cases are the
00:37:59.160
perfect example of this, that the law and social pressure and censorship is not being used as a
00:38:06.200
shield to protect anybody. It's being used as a sword to attack those who ideologically dissent.
00:38:14.780
And in that way, these sexual minorities that until the recent past were the victims of abuse
00:38:21.180
are now becoming attackers and abusers themselves. There's no way to look at Yaniv as anything other
00:38:27.960
than a predator, whether a sexual predator or a political predator, a legal predator. And, and I,
00:38:33.360
I think this will not end well. And, and I wonder how you think it'll end because when I see the mayor
00:38:39.380
of Vancouver condemning a feminist as despicable for wanting to, to keep trans men out of a rape center,
00:38:46.940
I think this has gone pretty far. When will it break? Is it when we have an all male lineup at the
00:38:53.180
women's Olympics events? It's all trans? Like, when does this insanity end?
00:38:58.460
I'm not sure, maybe not in my lifetime, but I will tell you this, that this Morgaine Ogre is a person
00:39:04.440
who saw somebody, a protester at a demonstration, some kind of, I forget what kind of demonstration,
00:39:12.140
had a sign up saying, a male is not a woman, or something like that. A man is not, a man is not a woman.
00:39:20.280
And, uh, Morgaine Ogre, uh, tweeted out or put on Facebook to, uh, his followers, uh, can somebody
00:39:29.540
find out who this woman is? I want her name and address. I want to take her to the Human Rights
00:39:34.880
Commission. In other words, this is, this is somebody who is the, was the deputy vice president
00:39:40.140
of the NDP, the BC NDP. And this is the kind of behavior, doxing and, and threatening to harass
00:39:46.280
and bring someone to the Human Rights Commission. You know, two years ago or three years ago, when,
00:39:50.940
when Jordan Peterson made those initial videos, uh, about a bill C C 16. And he said, uh, compelling
00:39:58.740
people to use certain pronouns is the tip of an iceberg. And someday it will end up, it could end
00:40:06.340
up with people going to jail over this. And everybody said, Oh, please, such exaggeration and
00:40:10.900
such nonsense. Uh, where are you going with that? It's just ridiculous. Uh, but I do see people going
00:40:16.260
to jail over this. I can see it quite easily. And, uh, when you have a library that is being
00:40:23.540
supposedly punished by not being allowed in a parade because they are exercising the law,
00:40:27.980
they're, they're performing their legal obligations to allow people on both sides of an argument to have
00:40:33.780
their say. Um, we are very far down what a road that, um, uh, a psychology professor that I thought
00:40:42.500
I think very highly of. He's the late John Fruity, uh, said he called it velvet totalitarianism.
00:40:49.180
And, uh, we are immersed right now in a scenario that I would label velvet totalitarianism, but it's
00:40:57.540
not so velvet anymore. Is it Ezra? I would say now, uh, we're walking into a scenario that is,
00:41:03.260
uh, what we might call actual, uh, totalitarianism. Well, Barbara, it appears to be my destiny in
00:41:10.840
life to, to be entangled in these free speech matters, whether it was the Danish cartoons a
00:41:18.080
dozen years ago, various censorship issues today, or by covering Yaniv, the threats he has made against
00:41:25.240
us seem to be hurtling us towards a legal, uh, battle. And I don't like it. It's not my first choice,
00:41:33.000
but neither will I run from it. And in some perverse way, I think it's our destiny at the
00:41:38.160
rebel to fight these fights in a place that maybe, uh, a minimum wage esthetician, new immigrant woman
00:41:44.500
in Vancouver cannot. Yeah. Well, uh, Ezra, you're one of the very few media outlets that, uh, has the,
00:41:53.480
I was going to say, uh, to, uh, to, uh, call out this issue for what it is. And, and while,
00:42:09.320
while praising you, I'd also like to praise Maxime Bernier because lately he tweeted, uh, about what
00:42:16.480
kind of nonsense this is. And he would, he would not stand for any of this nonsense if he were in
00:42:21.540
power. And I know he is not going to be in power, uh, this time around, but I tweeted back to him.
00:42:27.180
I said, you know, uh, thanks to Maxime Bernier for having the nerve or the, whatever it takes,
00:42:34.380
the courage to bill this ideological cat. Uh, and for that reason alone, I would vote for him. And I'm
00:42:41.760
not kidding. Uh, this is the big, this is one of the big free speech issues of our time. I think it,
00:42:47.760
uh, I think it punches above its weight in terms of the consequences that we'll have for society. Uh,
00:42:52.640
if we don't stand up to this, if everybody who doesn't see how nonsensical this is, doesn't stand
00:42:58.480
up and lend their voice, uh, to this, uh, to this issue, uh, then we will, uh, regret it, deeply regret it.
00:43:05.380
We are already seeing, uh, stuff happening that we should deeply regret with regard to
00:43:11.680
children and how confused, uh, they are being made to feel. So, um, yeah, big political issue,
00:43:18.060
Ezra. I applaud you. I applaud you for the stance that you're taking and Godspeed to you.
00:43:23.640
Well, thank you. And the feeling is mutual. You are one of the few voices with access to the
00:43:28.520
mainstream media in Canada who still courageously speaks out you and Rex Murphy. And I'm almost on
00:43:34.340
the list, uh, just with the two of you, because we saw if a feminist like Megan Murphy can be just
00:43:40.980
killed off Twitter. Um, you really do risk, uh, if, if you think the censorship of Islamophobia mania
00:43:49.060
is hard, it's nothing compared to the trans issue in my entire life. I've never seen censorship come
00:43:56.340
quicker, uh, or, or with less notice than on the trans issue. Yeah. And with more power, with more power
00:44:04.380
to, uh, obliterate, uh, the opposition, I've never seen anything like it either. It's, it's quite scary
00:44:09.620
to me. Yeah. Well, good luck to you. And thanks for taking the time with us. As always, it's great
00:44:13.520
to see you, my friend. Thank you, Ezra. Thank you. There you have it, Barbara Kay, one of the few
00:44:17.700
courageous voices on this subject. You can read her columns in the National Post and the Post Millennial.
00:44:35.780
Hey, what do you think of that public policy forum survey? You can find the whole thing online pretty
00:44:40.220
quick. I'll see if we can put a link to it on the page. Um, it's a little scholarly. I'm not sure if I
00:44:47.080
agree with all the premises in it and I'm worried about its purpose, but I think it makes us look
00:44:51.480
sort of tough. I mean, if, if we're as large as McLean's magazine, do you know how huge they are?
00:44:58.000
They used to be the big deal. I guess part of it is they've fallen, but we've grown. We're just a,
00:45:05.440
like a, like a nose behind the Toronto star. I think, what were they? 20% of Canadians follow them
00:45:12.640
and 16% follow us. We're going from memory. I'm sorry. They're monster huge, like almost billion
00:45:19.680
dollar huge. We're one 10th of 1% of that, maybe, maybe a little more. Um, and we're just like a
00:45:26.280
tiny bit behind them. I think we're rocking and forgive me for tooting our own horn, but I, it's
00:45:31.720
just, I've never had anyone else toot it before. So I want to show you that anyways, listen, thanks
00:45:36.120
for watching the show until next time on behalf of all of us here at rebel world headquarters to
00:45:40.140
you at home. Good night. Keep fighting for freedom.