Rebel News Podcast - Hutterite turkey farm invasion court date postponed in test case for radical environmental activism

00:00:00.000 tonight will justice be served in the animal rights extremist robbery case in alberta

00:00:20.600 it's november 27th and this is the ezra levant show

00:00:24.380 why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer i know

00:00:29.920 there's 8 500 customers here and you won't give them an answer

00:00:33.800 the only thing i have to say to the government about why i publish it

00:00:37.760 is because it's my bloody right to do so

00:00:40.080 well it is so cold the roads are so bad there's so many cars and trucks in the ditch the officer

00:00:50.800 behind me in the i-vis vest is telling everyone that the entire court is canceled today no judge

00:00:57.900 no prosecutors no nothing the doors will remain locked they have shoveled the walk but just too

00:01:03.780 many people couldn't make it in this inclement weather i should tell you that as i drove down

00:01:08.700 from calgary this morning i saw probably half a dozen vehicles in the ditch including some very

00:01:13.820 large semi-trailers it was at some points visibility was maybe 50 feet so i'm not surprised that court

00:01:21.340 is canceled it sounds like everything will be put over until next week um either i'll be here or we'll

00:01:27.660 have another journalist here from the rebel covering it i think it's a very important story

00:01:33.500 because it's a story not just of a ordinary crime i mean there are robberies all the time that doesn't

00:01:39.660 raise to the level of news that we would normally cover here at the rebel but it was a political crime

00:01:46.140 and i wouldn't quite go so far as to call it terrorism because they were so cowardly and it's

00:01:51.260 hard to be terrified by an anemic vegetarian um but the hutterites who were chosen specifically because

00:01:58.860 they're christian and and pacifist so they would be compliant victims and of course the animal rights

00:02:04.620 extremists who are running the show are doing this for political reasons they want to shut down

00:02:08.940 meat and all farming uh it's an outrageous thing to have a farm invasion of a christian 1.00

00:02:15.740 basically family commune farm chosen because they're so pacifist but far more concerning to me

00:02:22.460 actually was the fact that the police let these people go uh for a month they know worse than that

00:02:29.500 the police were there as they occupied the turkey farm and didn't kick them out didn't arrest them in fact

00:02:36.300 they negotiated terms with the the uh animal rights extremists and the farmers which included the

00:02:44.380 farmers giving uh five turkeys to the uh thieves to go with i mean i bet those turkeys by the way i bet

00:02:52.460 they probably died i mean these people don't know how to handle turkeys um that made me mad it made me

00:03:02.620 mad when i later discovered that one of the people who in fact was supposed to be on trial today

00:03:08.300 uh maxwell maw is his name was a global news reporter and my theory is that this was sort of

00:03:14.700 an inside job a media job he was the liaison that tipped off global and global knew about this obviously

00:03:21.740 but didn't mention it at all until he was charged and finally why did it take a month to charge these

00:03:30.540 people the police had their names they were there for hours they had their photos they had everything

00:03:35.020 well documented why did the police let them go and why did it take a month for doug schweitzer the

00:03:40.540 left-wing attorney general in alberta to put charges and why the most minor charge is possible you know

00:03:46.700 he could have charged conspiracy he could have had a rico-style criminal organization charge he could

00:03:52.620 have charged the masterminds behind it he could have charged them with many more things they were

00:03:58.780 literally charged with the lowest possible charges that could be made so i came all the way to fort

00:04:04.620 mcleod today i flew in from toronto and then i drove down in the snow but i don't mind because

00:04:09.340 this is an important story for the reasons i've outlined i'm making my way back to my car as you can

00:04:14.620 see it is so cold here i was hoping to warm up in the court but i'm gonna get into the car and

00:04:21.980 take a careful drive back up to calgary because the roads are horrendous but this is an important case to

00:04:27.820 us and i know that um he'll be able to rely on us to report accurately and in defense of these

00:04:36.860 farmers the property rights and against the extremists that are targeting them by the way

00:04:43.180 don't think that oil and gas extremists aren't following this case just as closely as we are

00:04:48.060 because they know that how these animal rights extremists are treated or let go is a prototype for

00:04:55.100 how they will too all right i gotta turn off the camera phone and get in the car well i'm back in

00:05:00.700 the car i pulled over it's so cold outside i mean don't i don't want you to think i've gone soft but

00:05:05.900 it was minus 14 and windy and i saw a lot of vehicles um on in the ditch including semis so i i'm not shocked

00:05:15.260 that they canceled court because frankly i'd be surprised if anyone got there on time and um you know the

00:05:23.260 judge didn't come it's it's a the judge does a circuit he's not there's not enough legal business

00:05:29.900 in fort mcleod for the judge to be there every day so it looks like this will be postponed a week

00:05:36.540 um i came all the way from toronto to cover the case and so i'm i'm heading back now um it's too bad

00:05:44.460 that it was canceled but i don't regard it as a wasted effort i think this is an important story

00:05:49.420 i just feel like these hutterites were wronged on so many levels and the response by the government

00:05:56.460 was inappropriate and remains inappropriate it remains lacking there were up to 60 farm invasion

00:06:04.700 robbers that day why are only four being charged and three of them look like cannon fodder young

00:06:11.500 know-nothing vegans it's bizarre to me that there's a global news reporter in his 40s or 50s who was

00:06:18.860 charged i think we need to really learn more about that but mainly this is a test case i think for

00:06:24.780 how the alberta government or any other authorities will respond to eco-sabotage i'm not going to quite

00:06:30.780 call it eco-terrorism but i'm sure there's a 100 overlap of the people who would do a farm invasion

00:06:38.140 robbery to liberate turkeys and people who would do something like that to block a pipeline now i remain

00:06:44.700 convinced that justin trudeau will absolutely not build the trans mountain pipeline expansion

00:06:51.740 um he hasn't lifted a finger no one has lifted a shovel it's just not going to happen the reason he

00:06:57.420 paid 4.5 billion dollars for the existing pipeline is not because he wanted an existing pipeline and not

00:07:04.780 because he wanted to build a new pipeline but because he thought the 4.5 billion which was at least

00:07:09.660 one billion over market price would be enough to shut up the proponent who would normally be saying

00:07:15.740 why can't we build why can't we build you're really not doing this it was a 4.5 billion

00:07:19.980 dollars shut up payment but to trudeau what does he care it's not his money but uh listen it's alberta's

00:07:26.060 decision what charges are laid against these uh eco saboteurs and so far the decision is an incorrect

00:07:32.060 one they are grossly undercharged anyways look i was there to cover the case there is no case i was there

00:07:38.460 to try to scrum uh the defendants they were not there i was frankly going to ask the prosecutor

00:07:43.500 some questions um and the prosecutor was not there so i'm headed back to toronto and i'll do a full show

00:07:48.620 from the studio tomorrow unless the plane is grounded but i want to show you some highlights from other

00:07:56.700 video clips we've done on this subject i spoke to shila gun read about it she went down there

00:08:01.420 um we did some work on this and i know you're probably thinking ezra what do you care it's just some

00:08:05.340 turkeys it's five turkeys it's a farm in an obscure faraway place well it none of that's relevant

00:08:12.540 it's the it's the underlying principle of it all and it's the fact that this is a prototype

00:08:19.500 this is a template how we and by we i mean society the government premier jason kenny his left-wing

00:08:28.060 attorney general doug schweitzer the police how they respond to these eco saboteurs i think is

00:08:34.700 the model for how we'll go forward so it's important to get this right all right i'm going to uh get off

00:08:40.940 the phone now and head continue heading back north on this blizzardy highway but let me leave you with

00:08:47.180 some clips from our coverage of this in the past months yeah i did a little research on jumbo valley

00:08:53.420 because i am the local anabaptist defile i'm a big hutterite fan um jumbo valley is a is a daughter

00:09:02.380 colony of another colony so the other colony got big and so they split they bought some land and

00:09:07.100 split so jumbo valley runs free range turkeys this is the most ethical if there's such a thing of all

00:09:15.260 farming i mean i think all farmers are pretty ethical but these turkeys are living a good life

00:09:19.900 as far as meat turkeys go dumbo valley started in 2016 so these are state-of-the-art brand new barns

00:09:27.820 that these turkeys are in and they're using state-of-the-art farming methods to run free-range

00:09:34.380 turkeys and yet still that's not enough for these activists to come along and accuse them of being

00:09:40.300 mean or oppressive to their turkeys i gotta tell you too i think you're right that there's some other

00:09:47.820 sinister sort of organization behind these people because in my contact with the people who were

00:09:54.940 actually there and i did have a little bit of contact with the activists who were actually there

00:10:01.340 they're dumb as a pile of hammers these people have me of all people uh on their media release list 0.90

00:10:08.700 so they sent me their pictures from inside the barn that shows you just how dumb they are i mean the

00:10:15.580 last person i am is an animal rights activist i mean i suppose i i could be in that i like to eat

00:10:23.660 well-loved animals because i think they taste delicious and i insist on eating animals that i

00:10:28.380 knew personally just so i know where my food comes from but they sent me their uh pictures posing with

00:10:35.340 the turkeys looking longingly into these turkeys eyes thinking that i would somehow be sympathetic

00:10:41.260 to their story and run with it that just tells you how dumb they are when i saw the names of the three

00:10:47.820 adults who were charged obviously i hopped on google to see what their social media profile was and

00:10:55.180 claire buchanan and kennedy ray herbert are they're not super young but they're women in their 20s and they

00:11:01.980 look like vegan animal rights people i mean uh claire buchanan thinks she's a bit of a instagram model 1.00

00:11:12.140 or something it's actually pretty funny but you can see she's always hugging animals wearing vegetarian

00:11:18.620 shirts she's absolutely playing the part of the 20-something single vegetarian activist girl i mean that's 1.00

00:11:26.620 no big surprise that she's cannon fodder for this action and same with kennedy herbert and obviously a 1.00

00:11:33.340 16 year old girl too i'm not going to call them victims although maybe the teenager is but the other

00:11:39.180 two they looked the part and you've got all these 20-something and teenage girls and then you've got a 46

00:11:45.900 year old man just happens to be in the mix i don't believe it was he an organizer was he

00:11:54.300 paid did he pay them for the scoop i just don't believe that a 46 year old global news journalist

00:12:04.380 from edmonton just happened to fall in with 20-something girls from calgary and pincher creek 1.00

00:12:12.780 in a fort mcleod uh home invasion style robbery i don't believe it was just coincidence and i don't

00:12:19.420 believe he's a peer of theirs i believe he was some sort of a fixer or a boss or something more senior

00:12:26.860 yeah i i think it all goes back to the fact that you know the coverage came from global news calgary

00:12:33.260 about this event and the hutterite farm chosen uh they say completely at random i think chosen because

00:12:42.380 they're hutterites and they're pacifists and they won't fight back so if you're using young girls and 0.97

00:12:47.420 malnourished women as cannon fodder the hutterite farm is a safe place to break the law um it's 1.00

00:12:55.180 it's all very strange how a news crew from two hours away was able to be there right as the story

00:13:03.500 happened you know um i've just looked up while we're chatting here on on my laptop uh the edmonton

00:13:10.460 journal coverage that's post media ctv coverage they all mention maxwell ming ma's name none of them

00:13:17.260 mentioned that he's with global now maybe that's just lazy and they didn't type his name into google

00:13:23.420 but why would this to me is a scandal of the highest order in from a journalistic point of view

00:13:30.140 yes it's a crime yes it's eco activism um that has to be nipped in the bud if you this is i tell you a

00:13:38.060 lot of anti-oil sands extremists are watching how this is being treated and so far the rcmp and doug

00:13:44.700 schweitzer have failed but this is a journalistic crisis it's fake news and it's a news organization

00:13:53.660 hiding its role in manufacturing the news and i think that we need to do some digging here sheila

00:14:03.100 because obviously canada's so-called media critics won't um the the company itself using the present

00:14:10.700 tense maxwell ming ma is an employee at global edmonton obviously they're just tickety-boo

00:14:15.660 with this they were fine with it the day before it was released in public in fact they were colluding

00:14:20.220 to keep it a secret this is a deep deep rot four people were charged yesterday in the nearly two

00:14:27.020 month old invasion of a hutterite colony free-range turkey farm in southern alberta the september 2nd

00:14:35.580 farm invasion started in the early hours of the morning when dozens of animal rights activists

00:14:41.260 took a school bus to the jumbo valley hutterite colony farm near pincher creek and staged a sit-in

00:14:48.140 occupying one of the turkey barns and thus jeopardizing the biosecurity of the entire flock now before the

00:14:55.020 protesters eventually left and despite the fact that local rcmp had been on the scene and collecting

00:15:00.380 names and information for the duration of the onslaught the protesters wanted their demands met

00:15:06.620 and the local rcmp helped them to negotiate with the farmers the activists wanted to rescue translation

00:15:13.900 burgle five turkeys and they wanted a news crew to be allowed to tour the turkey barns and global news

00:15:21.740 was on the scene maybe a little too conveniently and they were happy to oblige the terroristic demands

00:15:27.820 of the protesters just watch in the end the farm owners agreed to a deal with the protesters who

00:15:33.580 demanded and were given five turkeys to take to a rescue sanctuary group says they wanted media to have

00:15:40.700 full access to the turkey barns which we were allowed the owner says he has nothing to hide

00:15:47.180 finally yesterday maxwell ming ma claire buchanan kennedy ray herbert and a 16 year old girl whose

00:15:54.460 name cannot be revealed were charged with one count each of break and enter and enter to commit mischief

00:16:01.580 and later on yesterday afternoon because of course they did several activists chained themselves

00:16:06.940 to the edmonton legislature building to protest the arrests police doing something i absolutely wouldn't do

00:16:12.860 you unchained these people now if you got all your news from the mainstream media like the edmonton

00:16:19.660 journal ctv news okotoks online lethbridge now the calgary sun or for that matter the insufferable cbc

00:16:27.420 you wouldn't know that one of those four protesters arrested was a global news employee maxwell ming ma is

00:16:35.100 an employee at global edmonton and we find that out in the third to last sentence in the global news

00:16:42.060 story on the arrest i suppose they had to divulge that information before somebody else found out

00:16:48.060 but it is absolutely not being reported in any of the other mainstream media coverage you know i always

00:16:54.620 thought it was a slight bit sketchy how global news ended up being part of these terroristic extortion

00:17:01.420 demands done by these farm invading protesters to our peaceful hutterite friends of all the news

00:17:08.540 agencies it sure was curious why global news was chosen when the protesters demanded that a news crew

00:17:15.100 be allowed to wander the farm and like i explained earlier put the animals at biohazard risk well now we

00:17:21.980 know global had a man on the inside or rather the protesters had a man on the inside of global and yet

00:17:29.500 in any story that global news did about the protest prior to now they never acknowledged that one of their

00:17:35.660 employees was part of the crime when that was likely how global news was tipped off about the whole mess

00:17:42.860 in the first place at the very least global news withheld information about a story that directly

00:17:49.260 involved them from the public and at worst global news was a willing participant in meeting these

00:17:56.860 extortion demands on peaceful alberta farmers

00:18:11.500 to start a four-year job maybe an eight-year job at age 79 may not be the smartest thing to do

00:18:17.740 um but i think if i thought i could win i would have uh i just couldn't see a path where i could

00:18:25.820 get the nomination and to spend the next year and a half two years of my life campaigning no matter how

00:18:30.860 much i love campaigning i had three campaigns one of all new york city is anything but an easy place to

00:18:36.220 do business and politics it's every problem in the world is here and you got to address everything

00:18:42.060 but it's just not going to happen on a national level for somebody like me starting where i am

00:18:47.020 unless i was willing to change all my views and go on what cnn called an apology tour

00:18:54.700 well that man is michael bloomberg the former mayor of new york city and the man after whom the bloomberg

00:19:02.140 terminal and bloomberg news was named a bloomberg terminal was a prototype uh fast information computer

00:19:11.100 that every stock trader on wall street and around the world used and bloomberg news came out of

00:19:15.900 that a multi-billionaire a lefty who copied rudy giuliani's tough on crime policies and managed to win

00:19:25.100 new york spending hundreds of millions of dollars of his own money to do it but that's nothing for him

00:19:31.020 he has surveyed the democratic presidential candidates and found them lacking and he has decided that he

00:19:39.020 is the answer interestingly he has announced that he will ban any bloomberg reporter from criticizing him

00:19:47.820 or doing any opposition research into him the battle of the billionaires joining us now i refer to

00:19:57.580 bloomberg and trump um i suppose mark tom steyer another democrat could call himself a billionaire joining

00:20:03.500 us now via skype from the los angeles headquarters of bright bright.com is our friend joel pollack joel

00:20:09.580 how you doing good how are you i'm fine you know um i like a guy with chutzpah uh donald trump has taught

00:20:17.100 me not to underestimate a billionaire with ambition but trump had a lot of things going for him that

00:20:23.180 bloomberg doesn't let's give bloomberg uh the advantage in terms of raw cash uh bloomberg has much more

00:20:30.940 money than than trump but trump had a lot of other things going for me at a name a brand uh an audacity

00:20:37.980 what do you make of this well i think bloomberg may simply be making a poor decision i think it's as

00:20:47.260 simple as that i think he sees that joe biden is weak and there isn't a really strong alternative to

00:20:55.020 biden the only other quote unquote moderate and it really is a stretch to call him a moderate

00:20:59.420 the only other moderate doing well right now is pete buddha judge who is all of 37 years old and has

00:21:05.820 never run anything larger than a small town in indiana and hasn't really even run that terribly well so

00:21:14.300 i think there's a sense of panic in the donor class bloomberg was content to let biden run with

00:21:19.100 this and biden is still the front runner but he's looking very weak there's not a lot of confidence in

00:21:23.980 his chances there's not a lot of confidence in his competence mentally and otherwise so i think

00:21:29.500 bloomberg has decided in a sense to make a statement but i don't think he has a real chance at winning

00:21:36.380 and i think this may have just been a poor decision almost an emotional one there's no way he can win

00:21:43.580 he's going to be isolated in the first four primary contests so for the first month of elections and voting

00:21:51.260 we're not going to hear about michael bloomberg at all he's not going to be on the ballot

00:21:54.700 in iowa new hampshire nevada south carolina he's jumping in on super tuesday in alabama in arkansas

00:22:02.780 these are not states that are terribly hospitable to liberal nanny state bureaucrats from new york city

00:22:11.820 and so i think this is a losing strategy i cannot see him picking up enough support he hasn't been on

00:22:17.420 the debate stage at all the other candidates immediately pounced on him they are dismissing

00:22:22.620 him as a billionaire who thinks he can buy the election there already are some billionaires who

00:22:27.420 are trying to buy the election tom stayer is one of them and he at least made the debate stage

00:22:31.660 by spending strategically and boosting his poll numbers in one of the key primary states i think

00:22:35.340 it was nevada but the democrats are moving away from the billionaires and i don't think there's much

00:22:42.860 room for bloomberg to grow among the democratic primary electorate so in a sense it's a vanity

00:22:48.220 project and probably a very poor decision yeah you could be right i mean he's a smart man but

00:22:53.500 he's smart about certain things a smart man is not necessarily smart about all things um he's 77

00:23:00.380 which means that uh should he win on um his inauguration day i think he would be 78 turning 79 a

00:23:09.900 few weeks later am i right about that

00:23:13.660 i think that's the math so he's the second oldest person in the race bernie sanders is

00:23:18.380 the oldest and bloomberg is now second oldest he's younger than bernie but older than biden

00:23:24.620 i think bloomberg is mentally very still quite sharp um if he is in four years or eight years

00:23:30.940 it's a different story trump is in his 70s i think he's actually older than hillary if my memory serves

00:23:37.340 but he feels young he's got very high energy let's say that bloomberg has high energy let's say he's

00:23:43.340 100 percent there mentally the charge against him is that he wants to buy the race um well let's take

00:23:50.220 that at uh at face value i don't know his estimated wealth but theoretically i mean if he's 77

00:23:59.580 this is his last big move in his life i'm guessing so maybe he could theoretically

00:24:06.380 spend a shocking and unprecedented amount of money i'm going to pick the number five billion dollars i just

00:24:13.180 made that up i mean it would be unprecedented unthinkable i mean hillary clinton and all her 0.98

00:24:19.100 super packs i don't even think reached two billion in the entire general election

00:24:24.700 but theoretically if a guy spent five billion dollars if he had his own media network

00:24:29.580 could it win joel well i don't think the media network is going to help much because they aren't

00:24:38.220 really going to be able to help him directly they might lay off investigating other candidates in fact

00:24:44.940 they might be forced to do so because they've already stated publicly that they're going to

00:24:52.140 avoid investigating other candidates i think except for donald trump himself who's the president and so

00:24:56.380 they're allowing themselves to do that so they'll investigate trump but they won't investigate

00:24:59.900 bloomberg they never do and they are not going to investigate the other democrats so he's not going

00:25:05.900 to be able to use his network really to swing the primary election at least maybe in the general it comes into

00:25:11.500 play but you know i i don't see this really as a huge advantage remember donald trump was outspent

00:25:19.020 something like five to one by hillary clinton and the democratic donors in 2016 and he still came away

00:25:24.780 with the wind there so it's not just spending you've got to have a message and it's not clear

00:25:28.860 that bloomberg really offers an alternative i mean he would basically say well i ran new york city very

00:25:33.020 well well trump can say i'm running the whole country pretty well look at the economy look at

00:25:37.020 the fact that we're at peace everywhere yeah we destroyed isis we're in talks with north korea

00:25:41.740 we're having a trade war with china but we're also in in trade talks with china we have a new

00:25:46.060 agreement to replace nafta once the democrats stop trying to impeach me they'll just pass that the us mca

00:25:51.180 agreement so trump has a better record in government than bloomberg and bloomberg by the way nearly got

00:25:56.540 tossed out when he ran for a third term the new york mayors were not allowed to run for third term

00:26:01.420 then bloomberg changed the rules to allow himself to run for a third term he nearly lost to his democrat

00:26:06.780 challenger so i don't know that bloomberg's record is going to be very convincing to most people and

00:26:13.500 again it looks like a vanity project a very expensive one i don't know if it's going to help the

00:26:17.020 democratic cause or not there's some rumors that maybe he's just trying to see if there's room for

00:26:23.500 another candidate after him someone who's more effective younger perhaps more experienced i don't

00:26:28.460 know who that would be i think the field is essentially set the front runners are the front

00:26:32.460 runners there aren't going to be too many more surprises time is running out the iowa caucuses are

00:26:36.460 on february 3rd monday february 3rd and there are four or five front runners in the field it's very

00:26:41.900 difficult for me to see anybody getting the infrastructure up in time to challenge their dominance

00:26:47.260 and again trump entered the race late but not that late trump entered in june which was you know

00:26:52.460 three or four months in but he didn't wait until november and by november of 2015 think back he had

00:26:58.780 already been on top of the polls for four months so it's it's going to be difficult for bloomberg to

00:27:03.980 make up the kind of ground he needs to to make it to the front of the pack never mind to win yeah i

00:27:08.380 remember vividly trump's uh primary campaign he was so completely different from all the others and he

00:27:16.460 was more and more shocking every time as people got used to that trump style that it was trump and

00:27:22.700 the rest trump and the rest i don't think this will be bloomberg and the rest there's there's a lot of

00:27:30.460 um mid-level people each one trying to find their niche but no one has that uh charisma and personality

00:27:40.380 like trump so i i think in this crowded feel adding a guy who's pretty bland i saw his speech

00:27:47.500 when he announced it was very low energy low charisma he's got a bit of a wine um he doesn't like

00:27:53.900 people don't say him and say whoa stop i want to listen to this guy at least that's not the feeling

00:27:57.660 i get so so trump the fact that there was a ton of competitors was perfect because it was like snow

00:28:03.020 white and the seven dwarfs here you got right a bunch of middle-sized guys and and if you look 0.97

00:28:09.260 at the polls everyone's you know in the high single digits or low double digits it's a mess

00:28:15.740 yeah i think the two candidates to watch right now i think bloomberg's a sideshow the two candidates to

00:28:20.300 watch are buddha judge and kamala harris he put a judge is very talented he's a better orator than

00:28:27.580 most of the other candidates he says a lot of nothing it doesn't really make much sense when you

00:28:32.380 actually look at what he said but it sounds very good and he's a good campaigner he's got a huge

00:28:36.940 infrastructure in iowa and new hampshire he's got a lot of money the one thing he doesn't have is

00:28:41.100 support from black voters it's not clear he's going to get it but he has a chance to at least break 0.96

00:28:46.300 through into the number one number two spot in fact there's a new clinic back poll which says he is

00:28:52.220 number two for the first time so he's actually come from the back of the pack and is surging to the

00:28:57.180 four on the strength of his money his infrastructure and his debate performances which haven't been

00:29:02.220 spectacular but have been solid more solid than some of the others but kamala harris is still

00:29:06.940 lurking in the background and she's running a terrible campaign absolutely just one of the worst 1.00

00:29:11.580 campaigns strategically but she remains i think a default plan b for a lot of people and so if the 0.90

00:29:19.340 other candidates start to falter she could pick up some delegates maybe in the south maybe in california

00:29:25.980 on super tuesday if she doesn't do well on super tuesday that's march 3rd a month after the iowa

00:29:30.380 caucus is four weeks and a day if she doesn't do well on march 3rd then she's done but she could make 1.00

00:29:37.020 a move i would watch those two bernie warren biden they're the three front runners and have been for

00:29:43.180 several weeks they're going to split a lot of the vote if buddha judge and harris can break through

00:29:47.980 who knows what's going to happen and we could go into the democratic national convention next summer

00:29:52.060 without a clear winner in which case all kinds of other things are going to come into play

00:29:56.700 they've reformed the system of superdelegates so that the party elite doesn't get to select the

00:30:00.460 candidate on the first ballot but after the first ballot the superdelegates come back in and then you

00:30:06.780 have the party power brokers able to essentially choose who they want and that's going to be interesting

00:30:12.780 to see if they pick joe biden over somebody else yeah well i remember probably not quite six months

00:30:19.020 ago but i remember you and i were just spitballing who we thought was a contender and you and i i think

00:30:24.540 both agreed kamala harris and i thought okay she's youngish uh she's visible minority which counts for 1.00

00:30:33.660 something she's a woman which counts for something she's from california she's a lawyer so she's got a 0.87

00:30:38.940 certain you know she she was a prosecutor like she's got some achievements under her belt and um

00:30:48.940 you know she's she doesn't have a i don't find her a winning personality i think she's a little bit 0.98

00:30:55.180 clintonian in her fakeness but she but if i look at her i feel like the air has gone out of that balloon

00:31:01.660 um you think that people are thinking well maybe maybe she's sort of our our default second choice is

00:31:08.220 that what you're thinking i think so i think so she checks every box and there's not one

00:31:13.100 constituency in the party that's particularly offended by her yeah whereas you can look at

00:31:17.260 any of the other candidates there are moderates and people on wall street who will not support

00:31:21.580 warren or sanders right there are radicals who will not support joe biden the black community may

00:31:27.020 not support pete budigieg he does have a very difficult relationship with that community right now

00:31:31.180 rightly or wrongly who are you left with yeah yeah let me ask you one more question i find tulsi

00:31:37.900 gabbard of hawaii just interesting from several points of view she's a veteran um she's young she

00:31:46.780 posts videos of herself working out which i don't know maybe that's just an attempt to use her

00:31:52.300 physical attractiveness to get votes but it shows a vigor i think compared to sanders bloomberg biden

00:31:59.020 um she's trumpy in her dislike for foreign entanglements um i i see in the new new hampshire

00:32:10.060 poll it might be quinnipiac that she's up i think six points or something she's almost in that

00:32:15.980 not quite the first tier but that could just be a rogue poll with a high margin of error

00:32:21.740 does tulsi gabbard have any chance at all or is she just a quirky interesting also run she is the 0.99

00:32:29.020 latter i think she has a chance at cabinet position perhaps but she right now is in a sense a protest

00:32:37.100 vote against the rest of the field particularly among the anti-war constituency which is the group

00:32:45.900 she's appealing to most the anti-war movement dominated the democratic party when obama won

00:32:50.940 but now since obama turned out not to be a very great anti-war president they've receded somewhat

00:32:58.140 she's the only outspoken anti-war candidate so that's enough to keep her in the race for a while

00:33:03.500 but i don't know that the rest of the party will come around to her especially because there's a lot

00:33:06.780 of resentment against her she attacks other democrats on the debate stage very effectively

00:33:11.500 and kamala harris said essentially you're not a democrat anymore she said that basically on the

00:33:17.100 on the debate stage and that's how a lot of democrats feel they feel that she is the kind

00:33:21.820 of person who is bringing down the other candidates and so i i doubt she can unify the party behind her

00:33:27.020 that's the problem she has now yeah i think you're probably right well i find this very interesting to

00:33:31.100 talk about and uh of course we're up here in canada and we just had our elections so uh we're we're

00:33:37.500 locked into a few more years of bad news up here so at least let us enjoy the spectator sport of

00:33:43.260 american presidential politics joel i really appreciate you being our guide through all these

00:33:47.580 things yeah take care all right thanks there you have it joel pollack senior editor at large

00:33:52.140 at brightpark.com stay with us

00:33:53.740 well that's our show for today i'm sorry uh that my very long journey to fort mcleod to cover the

00:34:08.300 court case was rather aborted um but i gotta tell you i normally am used to much crazier flights uh seven

00:34:15.900 hours to london each way to cover the story of tommy robinson so frankly a four-hour flight each way to

00:34:21.180 cover a hunterite uh home uh farm invasion robbery it doesn't even feel uh that bad considering what

00:34:28.140 i'm used to all right thanks for tuning in today and we will cover this story and many more uh kian

00:34:34.300 bexty is now back from hong kong sheila gun reed is away on a secret mission and i'm not even kidding

00:34:41.340 about that we will only reveal it once she's back and safe and sound until tomorrow on behalf of all of us

00:34:48.380 us wherever we are the rebels around the world to you at home good night and keep fighting for freedom

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Rebel News Podcast - November 28, 2019

Hutterite turkey farm invasion court date postponed in test case for radical environmental activism

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