Rebel News Podcast - In 24 hours, Trudeau threatens news media he hates, bribes news media he likes — and he’s coming to kill The Rebel

00:00:00.000 Hello Rebels, I have a conversation today, that's a monologue I guess you could call it,

00:00:06.300 about Justin Trudeau's carrot and stick approach to the media. The carrot is the $600 million

00:00:13.020 payout to journalists he likes. And the stick, well we talk a bit about that because I know

00:00:18.360 you haven't seen that in other media. Before I get to it, it's a long one today, I hope you like

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00:00:53.580 the bills. All right, here's today's podcast. Tonight, in the course of 24 hours, Justin Trudeau

00:01:03.820 threatens news media that he hates, and bribes news media that he likes. Oh, and he's coming to

00:01:10.360 kill the rebel. It's May 23rd, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show. Why should others go to jail when

00:01:17.860 you're a biggest carbon consumer I know? There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:23.380 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my

00:01:28.420 bloody right to do so.

00:01:33.620 Look at what Justin Trudeau posted on Twitter two days ago. He wrote,

00:01:40.060 social media platforms must be held accountable for the hate speech and disinformation we see

00:01:46.780 online, and if they don't step up, there will be consequences. We launched Canada's new digital

00:01:52.640 charter today to guide our decisions. Learn more about it here. And there was a video that was

00:01:59.140 attached to the tweet. Here's what it looked like.

00:02:01.360 The platforms are failing their users, and they're failing our citizens. They have to step up in a

00:02:11.680 major way to counter disinformation. And if they don't, we will hold them to account,

00:02:18.840 and there will be meaningful financial consequences.

00:02:26.600 Hate. Well, that's a human emotion. Trudeau hates plenty of things. He sure hates Jody Wilson-Raybould.

00:02:33.880 Oh my God, does he hate Mark Norman. He tried to throw him in prison.

00:02:38.080 Justin Trudeau hates criticism. He's so thin-skinned.

00:02:40.580 But when he says hate speech, he really means speech that he hates, people that he hates.

00:02:46.700 He wants to get rid of the things that he hates, and he doesn't like disinformation, I guess. And

00:02:51.880 we know what that means. Like when the Globe and Mail broke the huge story about Jody Wilson-Raybould

00:02:57.840 and SNC-Lavalin, Trudeau said that was disinformation.

00:03:03.540 The allegations in the Globe story this morning are false.

00:03:06.980 Neither the current nor the previous Attorney General was ever directed by me or by anyone in my office.

00:03:16.860 So his news about punishing disinformation and things that he hates, that's what Trudeau said two days ago.

00:03:24.520 I'll get into that digital charter in a moment. So that's the stick. That's the censorship.

00:03:31.500 That's the punishment of journalists he doesn't like. That's the threat.

00:03:34.980 But there's a carrot, too. A reward. And that came yesterday.

00:03:42.360 Federal government names organizations that will help spend $660 million journalism fund,

00:03:48.800 said the state broadcaster, the CBC.

00:03:51.500 Now, just last November, that number was $595 million.

00:03:55.340 They haven't even started spending this money yet, and it's already ballooned to $660 million.

00:04:00.960 That's Trudeau for you, isn't it?

00:04:02.980 It's pretty clear. Do what Trudeau says, and you'll get free money.

00:04:07.560 Embarrass Trudeau. Do something he hates.

00:04:09.860 Say something he disagrees with that he'll call false, and you'll be punished financially.

00:04:15.540 He was very clear on that, wasn't he?

00:04:17.780 That's our story for today, but it's really going to be the story for every day for the next five months until the election.

00:04:22.820 Justin Trudeau is down in the polls by about a dozen points.

00:04:26.880 The latest poll showed his personal popularity at 31%.

00:04:30.620 A poll just a day earlier put him at 28%.

00:04:34.760 That's barely half of Trump's popularity.

00:04:38.220 Trudeau's liberal candidate came in fourth in a by-election in Nanaimo, B.C., with just 11% of the vote there.

00:04:45.880 There are new scandals every week, including the shocking story of how Trudeau tried to wrongfully convict this innocent man, Vice Admiral Mark Norman,

00:04:56.340 because he blew the whistle on Trudeau's scheme to divert a shipbuilding contract to Trudeau's liberal buddies.

00:05:01.620 I went to the press conference of Vice Admiral Norman the day the charges were dropped against him,

00:05:06.920 and I observed what I call the media party, all the big shots from all the big media on Parliament Hill.

00:05:12.260 Now, six months ago, they were all in love with Justin Trudeau.

00:05:16.640 They usually ignored his gaffes or downplayed them.

00:05:19.840 They were even willing to turn a blind eye to his sexual assault of Rose Knight, the reporter in Creston, B.C.

00:05:25.820 Here's what he said.

00:05:27.760 Like I said, I do not feel that I acted inappropriately in any way,

00:05:33.740 but I respect the fact that someone else might have experienced that differently.

00:05:39.120 Until six months ago or so, all the media party were still buying those lines, but I think it's broken apart now.

00:05:47.000 I think this cover story, Mike McLean's, says it all.

00:05:49.780 The media are disillusioned.

00:05:51.960 They feel like Trudeau tricked them.

00:05:54.880 They're calling him an imposter now.

00:05:56.600 So how can he win this fall?

00:05:59.980 On the carbon tax?

00:06:01.240 By having Old Yeller shout at us a bit?

00:06:04.800 So let's talk about climate change for a second.

00:06:07.500 Who believes it's real?

00:06:08.540 Who believes in science?

00:06:13.780 We got a report last year that said we have 12 years to take serious climate action.

00:06:21.000 We are all in this together.

00:06:23.220 We need to act.

00:06:25.860 Yeah, I'm not sure if that's going to do it.

00:06:28.680 Let me add one more fact.

00:06:30.140 Remember a week or so ago when I showed you a leaked survey of Liberal MPs from Ontario

00:06:34.360 where those Liberal MPs ranked the issues they'd like to campaign on in the fall?

00:06:38.600 They really wanted to stop talking about global warming and the carbon tax.

00:06:42.460 They know how much Canadians hate Old Yeller.

00:06:45.520 I'm sure they're feeling even more that way after watching the Australian Labour Party,

00:06:50.740 which went all in on global warming and carbon taxes.

00:06:53.920 Well, they lost an election last week that all the pollsters promised they'd win.

00:06:59.200 But the one fact in that leaked Liberal memo that stood out to me

00:07:04.380 was that the number one issue that voters spontaneously were bringing up to Liberal MPs

00:07:10.260 was that of immigration and refugees.

00:07:12.820 Unprompted is what I mean.

00:07:16.040 I truly don't think anyone unprompted says,

00:07:19.240 I'm really worried about carbon dioxide in the air,

00:07:21.920 and I think paying a carbon tax is not a normal thing for humans to say,

00:07:26.480 especially since we exhale carbon dioxide when we breathe.

00:07:29.560 That's just not an issue.

00:07:31.720 But immigration is the number one issue.

00:07:34.560 What makes me laugh is that the CBC claimed they couldn't figure out

00:07:37.740 if that meant Canadians were spontaneously walking up to Liberal MPs

00:07:41.120 to compliment them on immigration or to criticize them.

00:07:44.300 Yeah, spoiler alert, it was to criticize.

00:07:47.580 Last fall, only 6% of Canadians told Angus Reid that they wanted more immigration.

00:07:52.100 As you can see, that's the dark blue line.

00:07:54.180 The red blue line, the dark red line is 49% want less immigration.

00:07:59.300 Well, Trudeau and angry Ahmed Hassan went ahead and raised immigration levels nonetheless.

00:08:04.460 So yeah, I'm guessing it's not praise.

00:08:07.800 So what are they doing?

00:08:09.000 How are the liberals going to win?

00:08:12.620 Well, they're doing what they always do.

00:08:14.220 They demonize, they divide, they insult.

00:08:16.180 Mr. Sonny Ways, he's long gone.

00:08:18.640 I mean, he's still trying it sometimes, but only on foreign audiences.

00:08:22.760 This is Trudeau at some United Nations thing.

00:08:25.360 That's his base now.

00:08:26.940 Foreign bureaucrats and diplomats and low information journalists

00:08:30.220 who are still wowed by how woke he is

00:08:32.600 because they haven't been disillusioned yet like the Canadian Media Party.

00:08:36.380 Just watch this clip again.

00:08:37.820 And I think I showed it the other day.

00:08:39.340 This kind of bluster worked in Canada in 2015.

00:08:45.440 Not anymore.

00:08:46.960 He's got to take it on the road to foreign audiences to get applause for this.

00:08:51.540 Well, I'm going to keep saying loud and clearly that I am a feminist until it is met with a shrug. 0.97

00:09:04.980 Why does every time I say I'm a feminist, you know, the Twitterverse explodes and news medias pick it up? 1.00

00:09:13.740 It shouldn't be something that creates a reaction.

00:09:17.940 It simply is saying, I believe in the equality of men and women,

00:09:21.820 and I believe that we still have an awful lot of work to do to get there.

00:09:25.000 That's like saying the sky is blue and the grass is green.

00:09:29.960 Yeah, I don't think those oily lies work anymore in Canada.

00:09:34.040 So they've changed tack.

00:09:36.460 The Liberals are now claiming that the Conservatives will ban abortion in Canada if they're elected.

00:09:41.320 Now, Stephen Harper didn't even allow a real debate on abortion during his nine years as Prime Minister, let alone a vote.

00:09:47.080 So, yeah, not sure if that fear-mongering is going to work, but it'll work on some.

00:09:51.360 They're going full tilt on calling their opponents neo-Nazis and white supremacists.

00:09:55.680 The Media Party actually really likes that one.

00:09:59.060 Well, I absolutely do think that white supremacists, white supremacist movements are a very real, a very grave threat to Western liberal democracy.

00:10:10.720 I think they are a grave and real threat here in Canada, and they are a grave threat in many other countries around the world.

00:10:20.360 And now let me bring this all around to the news of the day.

00:10:24.020 You've got a Liberal Party that's so low in the polls, it's coming in fourth in by-elections.

00:10:27.960 When the economy is still positive enough, when the Liberal government is still in its first term, they're coming in fourth?

00:10:33.420 It's not supposed to work that way.

00:10:34.560 The Media Party is now actually, maybe grudgingly, reporting on things they would have ignored just six months ago.

00:10:42.680 Aboriginal protesters, for example, they're no longer ignored by the media.

00:10:46.220 Remember this?

00:10:47.440 I stand here, I honor my ancestors, my children, my sick, my lands and waters.

00:10:51.500 Thank you.

00:10:51.840 You threaten our lands and waters.

00:10:53.640 You're constantly...

00:10:54.600 I have heard from some fellow leaders of yours.

00:10:58.580 You have no right to do that to us.

00:11:00.120 Sir, I have heard from some of your fellow Indigenous leaders, I've heard from some of your fellow Indigenous leaders who are in favour of resource development, who want to be partners in growing and strong.

00:11:10.940 Why don't you sit down with my people? Why don't you talk to them?

00:11:12.220 You talk to everybody that wants to sign up on this?

00:11:14.320 No, I've spoken to you.

00:11:14.840 They have no resources, they can't hide, no more, they can't do this.

00:11:17.080 Will, I've heard you, I hear you today. I understand you.

00:11:20.240 You're a liar, you're a weak leader.

00:11:22.340 You've made your point. Thank you, sir.

00:11:24.540 You're welcome to stay if you'd like, if you're going to participate and let us continue.

00:11:30.120 If not, have a good day and please give everyone outside my best.

00:11:34.020 Their voices are really important as we approach this next election.

00:11:37.920 That was just yesterday, I think.

00:11:39.640 He's still got that sneering sound.

00:11:41.940 He'd say hi to your friends outside.

00:11:43.920 It's like his thanks for your donation comment.

00:11:46.620 He made it that ritzy fundraiser about a month ago.

00:11:49.320 One last example.

00:11:50.600 This guy would have been pilloried by the media a few years ago.

00:11:55.880 Now it's presented, at the very least, neutrally.

00:11:59.220 Look at this heckler.

00:12:00.120 Do you know how long you've held up people picking up bags?

00:12:04.080 I've been waiting to lie down the road for 30 minutes while you've been here soaking up the race.

00:12:10.820 Thank you.

00:12:11.360 You know?

00:12:11.960 Excuse me.

00:12:13.060 Excuse me.

00:12:13.640 You're not getting my voice.

00:12:14.820 This is a free country.

00:12:16.000 It is a free country.

00:12:16.420 It's a free country.

00:12:17.360 And I'm trying to speak to him.

00:12:18.800 And he won't even acknowledge me.

00:12:20.480 Yes, sir.

00:12:20.980 Thank you.

00:12:21.540 I'm sorry for your challenge.

00:12:23.320 It's not my challenge.

00:12:24.560 I'm a volunteer trying to help someone save their home.

00:12:26.860 Sir, sir.

00:12:27.260 We've been filling sandbags as well.

00:12:28.960 Yeah.

00:12:29.420 And you know, while you're here, while you're here, nobody can pick up.

00:12:32.960 While you're here, no one can pick up sand.

00:12:35.840 I don't know that, sir.

00:12:36.820 I'm sorry.

00:12:37.220 Well, why don't you make yourself aware?

00:12:38.840 Yeah, I think the coverage of that clip was neutral at best for Trudeau, whereas a year ago, they would have called him an angry white guy, heckling our woke prime minister.

00:12:51.640 Things have changed.

00:12:52.820 So I think the liberals are into a campaign of demonizing their opponents, name-calling.

00:12:58.780 But that's probably not really enough, is it?

00:13:01.020 I mean, it didn't win it for Rachel Notley in Alberta last month, didn't win it for Kathleen Wynne against Rob Ford.

00:13:07.480 So an authoritarian bully like Justin Trudeau, thin-skinned, vain, a narcissist, unused to criticism, used to being insulated from things his whole life, he's got a bit of an enemies list.

00:13:20.680 He's shown that.

00:13:21.920 He's shown that he hates people, for example.

00:13:23.860 I mean, he hates us.

00:13:25.880 He hates us here at the Rebel.

00:13:27.040 He and Ahmed Hassan, his immigration minister, have literally used the same word-for-word talking points about us here at the Rebel, because we're not with the official narrative.

00:13:37.480 Remember this?

00:13:37.980 We've shown you this before.

00:13:39.700 It is disappointing to see the conservatives and the member opposites engage in peddling rebel media conspiracy theories.

00:13:50.160 It is disappointing to see the conservatives engage in peddling rebel media conspiracy theories.

00:13:55.860 It is disappointing to see the conservatives engage in peddling rebel media conspiracy theories.

00:14:02.380 Now, remember, that's the exact issue that the Liberal MPs in Ontario said was the number one thing that voters were asking them about, immigration.

00:14:16.040 And Ahmed Hassan and Justin Trudeau were furious that we were talking about it as journalists.

00:14:20.680 Illegal immigration. 1.00

00:14:21.700 People are fed up with illegal immigration.

00:14:24.060 Immigration that mocks our laws. 1.00

00:14:25.600 As you can see, these folks illegally crossing in from the United States.

00:14:28.160 They said, sure, but legal immigration is upsetting people too.

00:14:32.200 That's what that Angus Reid poll showing 6% was about.

00:14:35.580 It said there's too many people even coming in legally, so put it all together.

00:14:38.800 All right, put it all together.

00:14:39.880 You got panicky Justin Trudeau.

00:14:42.640 His Sunnyways image is dashed.

00:14:45.420 His feminism talking points are a laugh now.

00:14:49.340 His conceit that he's some great white giver who will heal problems with Canada's aboriginal peoples.

00:14:55.220 Yeah, that's off.

00:14:57.040 They hate him.

00:14:58.540 So the plan seems to be buy off the media and shut off the media.

00:15:06.120 Buy off those who can be bought.

00:15:08.180 And given the perilous finances of Sony legacy media, that's most of them.

00:15:12.840 And shut off the rest of the media, especially social media.

00:15:16.340 Facebook, Twitter, YouTube.

00:15:17.760 The citizen media.

00:15:19.700 Bribes and punishments.

00:15:21.500 Carrots and sticks.

00:15:22.220 I've been warning about Justin Trudeau's plans to censor the internet for years.

00:15:26.760 We've seen strands of it.

00:15:28.320 We've seen hints of it.

00:15:29.900 About 18 months ago, what I consider to be a shocking story was published in, of all places, the Toronto Star.

00:15:35.300 It was a threat from Justin Trudeau to the number two executive of Facebook, their chief operating officer, a billionaire, named Sheryl Sandberg.

00:15:42.840 Trudeau threatened her.

00:15:43.820 If she didn't censor political content in Canada that he, Justin Trudeau, didn't like, in advance of his re-election, he was very specific about that, he would force Facebook to do it through government regulations.

00:15:58.360 What was interesting about this was that the threat was obviously made face-to-face when Trudeau met with Sandberg, and it was obviously done in private.

00:16:08.380 But someone in Trudeau's office later felt the need to leak it to the Toronto Star, who dutifully published it.

00:16:14.220 I'm not sure why that threat was leaked.

00:16:17.480 Maybe the message wasn't getting the through.

00:16:19.280 Maybe Sandberg ignored Justin Trudeau, as so many important people in the world ignore Trudeau or mock Trudeau.

00:16:26.880 Trudeau doesn't seem to do well with powerful women. 1.00

00:16:29.660 Maybe that's it.

00:16:30.660 I mean, he doesn't know how to handle powerful women who disagree with him.

00:16:33.660 Ask Jody Wilson-Raybould or Jane Philpott.

00:16:36.760 It was odd, though, because Justin Trudeau already has his key man embedded in Facebook.

00:16:41.900 This guy, their head of policy in Canada, which means their head of censorship, his name is Kevin Chan.

00:16:46.280 Kevin Chan. Kevin Chan used to be a senior staffer in the Liberal Party of Canada.

00:16:51.580 So this is an inside job.

00:16:53.580 Trudeau could just outsource his censorship to Facebook.

00:16:56.280 He doesn't have to get his own hands dirty, at least not in public.

00:16:59.700 It looked like Facebook might have been pushing back a bit.

00:17:03.120 So he had to threaten them in the Toronto Star.

00:17:05.120 That's how I explained that story.

00:17:06.760 I think that story in the Star was probably the most important story of 2018,

00:17:11.500 at least in regards to free speech, the Internet, and the upcoming election.

00:17:15.560 But I have not seen this story referred to anywhere else.

00:17:18.480 I give the Star credit for running it, though I think they were running it as a favor to Trudeau

00:17:22.360 to pass on a threat to Facebook.

00:17:25.560 But I saw no reply to the story from Reporters Without Borders or the Canadian Civil Liberties Association

00:17:31.940 or the Canadian Association of Journalists or Pan-Canada, all these free speech groups, nothing.

00:17:37.440 Because they're not really civil libertarians anymore.

00:17:40.440 They're not really for free speech anymore.

00:17:42.820 They're for free speech, but, you know what I mean?

00:17:46.200 Free speech, but.

00:17:47.640 Here, I'll let Salman Rushdie explain the difference.

00:17:51.580 I've got so sick of the goddamn butt brigade. 1.00

00:17:54.540 And now, the moment somebody says, yes, I believe in free speech, but, I stop listening.

00:17:59.660 You know, I believe in free speech, but people should behave themselves.

00:18:12.760 I believe in free speech, but we shouldn't upset anybody.

00:18:16.000 I believe in free speech, but let's not go too far.

00:18:18.540 The point about it is the moment you limit free speech, it's not free speech.

00:18:24.920 The point about it is that it's free.

00:18:29.060 Yeah, he's exactly right.

00:18:30.380 So, why wouldn't Trudeau move against his enemies?

00:18:35.880 That Toronto Star article was like a trial balloon, you could say,

00:18:38.160 and it elicited precisely no reaction, other than maybe from us here at The Rebel.

00:18:42.240 So, let's look at what's coming now.

00:18:44.780 I showed you a glimpse of this last week when Trudeau flew to Paris

00:18:48.600 to meet with New Zealand's Prime Minister, Jacinda Ardern,

00:18:51.240 who is clearly in some sort of post-traumatic stress

00:18:54.740 from the mass shooting on the mosque in Christchurch.

00:18:58.940 And fair enough, but she's been traumatized, and she's just banning everything. 0.96

00:19:03.140 She's lashing out.

00:19:04.160 I think she's gone a bit mad banning guns, banning free speech, 1.00

00:19:07.240 banning things on the Internet.

00:19:08.180 I don't know if it's just the psychological stress of what happened

00:19:10.960 or if it was a long-standing desire on her part,

00:19:14.400 but she is literally doing what the terrorist himself said he hoped would happen,

00:19:19.540 provoking massive change in public policy through his violence.

00:19:24.400 That's not good.

00:19:25.540 Now, in a sense, other than the five million souls who live in New Zealand,

00:19:29.320 it's a great little country.

00:19:30.320 They're our friends and our allies,

00:19:31.820 but it's smaller in population than Toronto, and it's so far away.

00:19:35.620 But it's our problem in that her overreaction, her censorship,

00:19:40.020 is being exported around the world

00:19:41.740 with the cooperation of tech companies themselves

00:19:45.980 who co-sponsored this censorship mission by her.

00:19:50.360 That's the creepy part.

00:19:51.760 They're all in on it.

00:19:53.940 So Trudeau was all aboard that censorship,

00:19:56.720 and this week he brought in his own censorship.

00:20:00.120 That's that digital charter I mentioned at the beginning of the show.

00:20:03.080 I know what the Charter is, the Charter of Rights and Freedom.

00:20:09.280 That's what Trudeau's dad, Pierre Trudeau, introduced a generation ago.

00:20:13.960 Can I read Section 2 of the Charter of Rights and Freedom for you?

00:20:17.980 I bet you had a dollar that Justin Trudeau couldn't tell you

00:20:21.020 what Section 2 of the Charter of Rights and Freedom says.

00:20:23.200 Let me read it for you.

00:20:25.580 Fundamental Freedom.

00:20:27.380 Two.

00:20:28.760 Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms.

00:20:30.500 Freedom of conscience and religion.

00:20:33.060 Freedom of thought, belief, opinion, and expression,

00:20:35.000 including freedom in the press and other media of communication.

00:20:39.180 Freedom of peaceful assembly and freedom of association.

00:20:42.940 There are other freedoms in the Charter,

00:20:44.820 but these ones are so important, they're called fundamental freedoms.

00:20:48.740 They have their own section.

00:20:50.120 First, they're what the other freedoms sort of depend on.

00:20:53.400 Freedom of thought, belief, opinion, expression, the press, the media.

00:20:56.320 That's real constitutional talk.

00:20:57.760 That's a Charter.

00:20:59.180 That's a Charter.

00:21:02.340 Justin Trudeau stole the word Charter for his digital Charter,

00:21:06.740 but as in so many other ways, he's just a cheap copy of his dad.

00:21:10.300 It's a joke, really.

00:21:11.020 He's undermining freedom.

00:21:13.880 Here's the digital Charter page that he mentioned in that tweet.

00:21:17.740 Now, just scroll down here.

00:21:19.140 So much of this is buzzwords and gobbledygook from clueless politicians

00:21:23.460 and bureaucrats and lobbyists and scammers who have no idea what they're doing.

00:21:28.480 But they love to...

00:21:29.220 Look at this chart, for example.

00:21:31.880 I don't know if you can see that in gray there.

00:21:35.320 Current waves.

00:21:37.780 Future waves.

00:21:39.700 New ecosystems.

00:21:42.020 Who talks like that?

00:21:45.200 Trudeau the fool trying to sound smart.

00:21:48.640 That's who.

00:21:49.400 We have to realize that the way of thinking that got us to this place no longer holds.

00:22:00.380 We have to rethink elements as basic as space and time to go all science fiction-y on you in this sense.

00:22:09.040 Whenever I watch that clip, I come out five IQ points dumber.

00:22:14.660 Let me show you some more of this digital chart.

00:22:16.520 I mean, come on, look at this.

00:22:17.380 Do you see that there?

00:22:19.280 Super cluster initiative.

00:22:22.480 Do you see that there in black?

00:22:24.380 Look at this.

00:22:25.520 Digital engagement leaders.

00:22:28.000 Hey, guys.

00:22:28.660 Here's your digital engagement leaders for your digital charter.

00:22:31.240 Sorry, that's not a thing.

00:22:32.940 That's just not a thing.

00:22:34.620 That's a fake way to milk a stupid government with huge consulting contracts. 0.98

00:22:39.700 Hey, we're digital engagement specialists.

00:22:41.360 And look at the bizarre identity politics here.

00:22:44.180 What women said, what young people said, what immigrants said, what gay black people in wheelchairs said.

00:22:52.000 What a bizarre way of thinking, putting Canadians into boxes as if all women or all aboriginal people think the same way.

00:22:59.660 What a moron we have as a prime minister.

00:23:01.740 And look at this bizarre graphic.

00:23:04.200 This is in the digital charter.

00:23:05.900 It looks like some weird cult thing drawn by someone on drugs, which it probably was.

00:23:12.360 Just 20 pounds of stupid stuffed into a 10 pound bag.

00:23:15.960 Look at that.

00:23:16.960 Are those doodles?

00:23:19.060 Is that a doodle?

00:23:21.340 Justin Trudeau.

00:23:21.940 Did you doodle that?

00:23:23.760 Mr. Prime Minister, you're asking us to take your doodle and call it a digital charter.

00:23:28.980 I wonder if the whole thing is just like a giant practical joke.

00:23:32.820 I think this might be like what it is inside Trudeau's mind, along with lots and lots of pot smoke.

00:23:43.460 It's all baffle gab like this.

00:23:44.980 Makes no sense, but it gets government money.

00:23:47.360 But if you scroll all the way down this document, buried under tons of manure, you get to the hidden point of it.

00:23:56.180 Do you see this?

00:23:56.840 It says principles.

00:23:59.140 And you see down near the bottom, number eight, strong democracy.

00:24:03.160 Number nine, free from hate and violent extremism.

00:24:06.240 Number 10, strong enforcement and real accountability.

00:24:09.040 These are not clickable, even though it's on a website.

00:24:11.540 You can't click on them because it's...

00:24:14.240 I read through this whole pile of junk for you.

00:24:16.280 And I think I found the needle in the haystack.

00:24:18.940 It's really just an excerpt from that New Zealand censorship plan.

00:24:22.260 Look at this.

00:24:22.620 I'm going to read the whole passage because it's just very small in this mountain of manure.

00:24:27.460 Governments and major online service providers have made voluntary collective commitments to prevent people from abusing the Internet for violent extremist and terrorist purposes.

00:24:38.520 These commitments include increasing transparency and accountability and expressing community standards, terms of service, and content moderation on the part of online service providers.

00:24:49.360 Building more inclusive, resilient communities to counter violent radicalization.

00:24:53.780 Enforcing laws that stop the production and dissemination of terrorist and extremist content online.

00:24:58.920 And encouraging media to apply ethical rules when reporting on terrorist events to avoid amplifying violent extremist and terrorist content.

00:25:06.960 Okay, so let's just go through that a little bit, okay?

00:25:09.720 Major online service providers have made voluntary collective commitments.

00:25:14.660 So, it's past tense.

00:25:16.040 They have made those commitments.

00:25:17.680 So, it's done.

00:25:19.640 Did you know that?

00:25:20.240 Did you know that that's already done?

00:25:22.600 Did that happen at that New Zealand cult meeting?

00:25:25.700 I think it did because there was no public debate.

00:25:28.880 What exactly are those commitments?

00:25:30.280 Can we get a copy of those commitments?

00:25:32.860 Journalists weren't allowed into those meetings.

00:25:34.940 What was said?

00:25:36.180 When a government meets with a business and the business leaves by making some sort of voluntary promise, it's not voluntary.

00:25:43.520 It's either based on some sort of threat, like the threat Trudeau made to Facebook last year,

00:25:48.900 or some sort of, you know, stick or a carrot, some promise, some contract or something.

00:25:55.360 What were these promises?

00:25:56.700 What were these threats?

00:25:57.400 What were these commitments?

00:25:58.960 It says to prevent people from abusing the internet.

00:26:02.260 So, something new that these companies weren't doing before.

00:26:06.260 They were weeding out terrorism before, or they were trying to.

00:26:10.000 So, what's new now?

00:26:11.160 They're just going to try harder now?

00:26:14.460 Or more likely, they're going to expand the definition of what they call terrorism and extremism

00:26:20.800 and make it apply to Trudeau's personal enemies list, like Trudeau told Sheryl Sandberg 18 months ago.

00:26:27.140 Which of these do you think it means, and why don't we know?

00:26:30.620 We're given an outline, new community standards.

00:26:33.160 Is that the new rules that cause, say, Paul Joseph Watson, a very popular mainstream conservative commentator,

00:26:40.860 to be banned from Facebook?

00:26:44.280 Paul Joseph Watson is about as violent as a little lamb.

00:26:47.340 So, what was the new rule that had him banned?

00:26:51.540 Was it Justin Trudeau who called for him to be banned?

00:26:53.900 Was it his own Prime Minister, Theresa May, over there in the UK?

00:26:56.840 Who in this secret meeting asked for what?

00:26:58.840 Well, content moderation, does that mean silencing voices that criticized Trudeau?

00:27:03.700 Why would the government have a hand in that?

00:27:06.440 What's that got to do with terrorism?

00:27:08.740 In fact, isn't the point of media to hold governments to account?

00:27:12.140 Why does the government hold media to account?

00:27:16.140 And why were the media companies compelled to go along with it?

00:27:19.900 And ethical rules for reporting?

00:27:21.900 Whose ethics?

00:27:22.840 Justin Trudeau's?

00:27:23.940 He said that the report about his corruption and SNC-Lavalin and Jody Wilson-Raybould,

00:27:30.060 he said it was untrue.

00:27:31.660 He said that was unethical reporting.

00:27:33.780 Turns out he was the unethical liar.

00:27:36.680 Would his new rules have shut down that report about him?

00:27:41.400 The secrecy here, the secret meetings, the secret deals,

00:27:45.160 that's pretty much the opposite of what the Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees.

00:27:50.600 Where are my rights?

00:27:51.740 That's what a Charter is.

00:27:53.120 My rights is against the state.

00:27:54.840 Where are my digital rights in this digital Charter?

00:27:57.780 All I see is a bunch of baffle gab from consultants,

00:28:01.500 a bunch of weird doodles,

00:28:03.000 and then the censorship hammer buried in the manure. 0.89

00:28:07.660 Oh, well, hi-ho.

00:28:08.760 I didn't see any stories about that, did you?

00:28:11.040 Not in the mainstream media.

00:28:12.920 Tell me if I missed one.

00:28:14.400 And not actually from the conservative opposition.

00:28:17.760 Did you see Andrew Scheer or his critics take aim at it all?

00:28:21.320 They didn't.

00:28:22.300 I wonder if they would like to have these powers too.

00:28:25.000 Most governments do.

00:28:27.380 Now, in terms of the media,

00:28:29.900 maybe the silence of the lambs has to do with the second part of my story,

00:28:34.200 the big payoff.

00:28:36.520 Who's watching the watchmen is an old saying.

00:28:39.560 Well, when the watchmen pocket a $660 million bribe

00:28:44.400 from the people they're supposed to be watching,

00:28:47.940 maybe it turns out no one's watching them.

00:28:50.840 Let me read to you my least favorite part about all this.

00:28:53.920 I mean, if you take money from Justin Trudeau,

00:28:55.800 you are owned by Justin Trudeau,

00:28:57.900 or at least rented by him.

00:28:59.780 That's pretty much a law of nature.

00:29:01.280 Look at the CBC state broadcaster if you need proof.

00:29:03.840 This is the de facto nationalization of the rest of the Canadian media,

00:29:07.560 or at least those willing to rent themselves out by the hour.

00:29:11.000 The federal government, I'm quoting from the state broadcaster,

00:29:13.340 the federal government has named the eight Canadian organizations

00:29:16.480 that will sit on a special advisory panel

00:29:19.060 tasked with recommending news operations

00:29:21.140 for participation in a $600 million media support fund.

00:29:25.300 Is it $660 million, as the headline said,

00:29:27.680 or $600 million, as this said?

00:29:29.300 Who knows?

00:29:29.960 But let me read the friends of Justin Trudeau

00:29:32.740 who will purse out this $600 million.

00:29:35.480 Let me quote.

00:29:37.640 The eight associations that have been asked to select a representative

00:29:40.340 to sit on the independent panel by the middle of June are

00:29:43.400 News Media Canada,

00:29:45.940 the Association de la Presse Francophone,

00:29:49.100 the Quebec Community Newspaper Association,

00:29:51.760 the National Ethnic Press and Media Council of Canada,

00:29:54.420 and the Canadian Association of Journalists,

00:29:56.760 the Fédération Professionnelle des Journalistes de Québec,

00:30:01.020 UNIFOR,

00:30:01.660 and the Fédération Nationale des Communications.

00:30:05.960 Sorry for my awful French.

00:30:08.500 So they're all lobbyists, really.

00:30:10.340 News Media Canada,

00:30:11.280 Newspaper Association,

00:30:12.100 they're all lobbyists.

00:30:13.120 They'll divide up the pie.

00:30:14.340 Huge disproportion from Quebec. 0.79

00:30:16.260 I mean, of course.

00:30:17.600 I mean, Quebecers are better. 1.00

00:30:21.560 Quebecers are better than the rest of Canada 1.00

00:30:25.560 because, you know, we're Quebecers.

00:30:28.120 But seriously,

00:30:28.800 what did you think a corrupt liberal from Quebec would do?

00:30:32.840 But look at that one.

00:30:34.240 That one I mentioned, UNIFOR.

00:30:35.760 UNIFOR.

00:30:37.020 UNIFOR.

00:30:37.500 Run by this guy,

00:30:38.980 Jerry Diaz.

00:30:39.900 UNIFOR.

00:30:40.800 The union that publicly declared it was going to war

00:30:43.780 against Andrew Scheer and the Conservatives

00:30:45.700 and they were going to be their worst nightmare.

00:30:47.660 UNIFOR.

00:30:48.220 That's taking huge amounts of their own members' union dues

00:30:50.920 and using it to campaign against the Conservatives,

00:30:53.180 just like they did in 2015.

00:30:54.980 So in case you had any doubt,

00:30:57.180 yeah, no,

00:30:58.180 this is a liberal media campaign fund.

00:31:01.900 Justin's journos,

00:31:02.860 let's call it.

00:31:04.740 So let's recap.

00:31:06.760 $600 million,

00:31:07.940 or is it $660,

00:31:09.780 for Trudeau's friends,

00:31:11.180 but he won't choose them, people.

00:31:12.900 No, no, no, no, no.

00:31:13.660 This is independent.

00:31:15.060 The CBC just said so.

00:31:16.820 It's just Trudeau's close partisan ally,

00:31:19.660 Jerry Diaz,

00:31:20.700 the UNIFOR boss.

00:31:21.680 He'll choose who gets the money.

00:31:23.500 Champagne for my real friends.

00:31:25.660 Real pain for my sham friends.

00:31:27.120 That's his motto.

00:31:28.700 Censorship through voluntary private agreements

00:31:31.300 with internet companies like Twitter and Facebook and YouTube.

00:31:34.500 It was voluntary, people.

00:31:36.060 We just couldn't show you how the deal was made.

00:31:39.080 What's in those agreements?

00:31:40.800 Don't you worry your pretty little head.

00:31:42.520 I mean,

00:31:43.560 you can trust Justin Trudeau,

00:31:46.320 right?

00:31:48.400 Stay with us for more.

00:31:49.720 And he stopped in his tracks

00:32:05.700 and he turned around

00:32:06.660 and just cold cocked me.

00:32:10.340 She was one of our activists.

00:32:12.180 She was one of your activists who...

00:32:13.720 Who had been trained up to bird dog.

00:32:16.460 Yes.

00:32:16.780 So, the term bird dogging,

00:32:19.500 you put people in the line

00:32:22.300 at the front,

00:32:24.260 which means they have to get there

00:32:25.600 at six o'clock in the morning

00:32:26.800 so they're getting the front

00:32:28.180 of the rally

00:32:29.640 so that when Trump comes down

00:32:31.940 the rope line,

00:32:34.160 they're the ones asking him the question

00:32:35.860 in front of a reporter

00:32:36.900 because they're pre-placed there.

00:32:39.000 To funnel that kind of operation,

00:32:43.000 you have to start back with people

00:32:44.980 two weeks ahead of time

00:32:46.440 and train them how...

00:32:47.360 That's a clip from a Project Veritas video

00:32:52.060 that blew the lid off

00:32:53.740 Democrat dirty tricks

00:32:55.060 in the 2016 presidential election.

00:32:58.140 That lady, Shirley Teeter, 1.00

00:33:00.140 who looked like a lovable,

00:33:02.200 kindly grandma

00:33:03.720 with an oxygen mask,

00:33:06.260 the last person you would ever think

00:33:08.380 of being a political trickster.

00:33:09.760 Well, you heard

00:33:10.360 the Democratic operative saying,

00:33:12.200 yes, she's one of ours.

00:33:14.020 And he described

00:33:14.960 what's called bird dogging,

00:33:17.740 having her place there

00:33:19.140 so that when Trump comes out,

00:33:20.920 she's at the front of the line

00:33:21.900 to ask him questions

00:33:23.020 or even to provoke

00:33:24.380 some sort of a quarrel.

00:33:26.320 Well, this was a devastatingly effective video

00:33:28.960 by Project Veritas,

00:33:30.580 one of several in the 2016 election campaign.

00:33:33.920 President Trump himself said

00:33:35.560 that these undercover sting videos

00:33:38.060 by Project Veritas

00:33:39.280 helped win the election.

00:33:41.380 Well, not surprisingly,

00:33:43.620 the Democrats who were exposed

00:33:45.420 in this video

00:33:46.260 sued Project Veritas,

00:33:48.940 including in this case,

00:33:50.900 Shirley Teeter herself

00:33:52.240 sued Project Veritas

00:33:53.820 for defamation.

00:33:56.300 And I'm delighted to report,

00:33:57.680 and we have him here right now,

00:33:59.300 our friend James O'Keefe,

00:34:01.100 the founder of Project Veritas,

00:34:03.240 won in a blowout court victory.

00:34:06.140 James, great to see you again,

00:34:08.000 and welcome back to The Rebel.

00:34:09.860 Thank you very much

00:34:10.720 for having me, Ezra.

00:34:11.560 It's been quite a week.

00:34:12.940 Well, thank you for making the time.

00:34:14.900 You've had a chance to celebrate,

00:34:17.540 and I'm sure you've been doing

00:34:18.320 a lot of media interviews.

00:34:19.880 Can you give our viewers

00:34:20.840 any more background?

00:34:22.000 We showed that short clip,

00:34:23.160 and I did my best

00:34:24.180 to explain bird dogging.

00:34:26.340 Tell us a little bit more

00:34:27.360 about the dirty tricks you exposed,

00:34:28.760 and then tell us about

00:34:29.540 the lawfare against you.

00:34:31.920 Well, Ezra, this was in a...

00:34:33.980 I don't even know where to begin.

00:34:35.640 The Feelings of Justice

00:34:37.220 when you are vindicated

00:34:38.720 by a sitting federal judge,

00:34:41.860 and the transcript of this,

00:34:44.000 this is a jury trial,

00:34:45.380 a defamation jury trial.

00:34:46.700 First of all, most issues

00:34:47.420 don't make it to trial,

00:34:48.640 so it's pretty extraordinary

00:34:50.580 when a defamation case

00:34:51.620 gets to the jury,

00:34:52.720 but in this case, Ezra,

00:34:53.860 what happened was

00:34:54.840 this woman that you just saw,

00:34:57.180 that's Scott Fovall,

00:34:58.620 which is a Democratic operative

00:35:00.240 who was disgraced and terminated.

00:35:03.400 Scott Fovall referenced this woman

00:35:05.340 without mentioning her by name,

00:35:07.460 but he was clearly referring to her

00:35:09.120 in the raw tape.

00:35:10.020 You can see all the surrounding facts,

00:35:12.360 an old woman from North Carolina

00:35:13.900 who had COPD.

00:35:15.000 There's only one such person

00:35:16.400 who was beat up at this Trump rally,

00:35:19.580 and Scott Fovall took credit

00:35:20.780 for what she did,

00:35:22.080 and some of the actions

00:35:23.080 that Teeter took at this rally in court,

00:35:26.060 she contradicted herself

00:35:27.420 about whether she touched this guy first,

00:35:29.640 chased after him,

00:35:30.460 so forth and so on.

00:35:31.460 There were some contradictions.

00:35:32.860 So we reported

00:35:33.960 what Scott Fovall said accurately.

00:35:35.880 That's our duty as journalists.

00:35:37.260 It's newsworthy

00:35:38.320 when Mr. Fovall makes these comments

00:35:42.080 taking credit for what Ms. Teeter did.

00:35:44.940 Teeter sues us for defamation.

00:35:47.100 It gets to a jury trial in North Carolina,

00:35:49.460 and a federal judge rules yesterday. 0.98

00:35:52.060 He does what's called

00:35:53.020 a directed verdict,

00:35:54.400 meaning that before the jury

00:35:56.160 could reach a verdict,

00:35:57.300 the judge throws the entire case

00:35:59.420 in a trash can and says,

00:36:01.460 there is zero evidence

00:36:02.880 of defamation in this case.

00:36:04.740 Mr. O'Keefe, me,

00:36:06.380 was reporting accurately

00:36:07.660 what the woman said,

00:36:08.620 and that's it.

00:36:09.500 I'm sorry, what Mr. Fovall said.

00:36:11.540 So it's been an extraordinary few days.

00:36:14.580 This case went to trial.

00:36:16.940 It was like something out of a movie.

00:36:18.500 It was like the person teetered.

00:36:22.620 They were trying to play up

00:36:23.240 the sympathy card.

00:36:24.100 She had breathing tubes,

00:36:26.240 and they were trying to play up

00:36:28.040 the sympathy card,

00:36:28.940 which had nothing to do

00:36:30.380 with the issues and the facts.

00:36:32.160 So it really was standing on principles.

00:36:34.700 It was standing about the First Amendment

00:36:36.760 and my right to inform the public.

00:36:39.460 And we won.

00:36:40.200 And we've won every lawsuit

00:36:41.300 that we've litigated,

00:36:42.980 which is rather historic.

00:36:44.180 So all I can say is

00:36:46.660 it's a feeling of vindication

00:36:47.840 and justice right now.

00:36:49.000 Well, let me read from the judge.

00:36:51.060 I have an excerpt here from his ruling.

00:36:54.400 And the judge is speaking

00:36:56.260 of the plaintiff.

00:36:58.580 Any one of these points

00:37:00.060 of the plaintiff's argument,

00:37:01.960 if they are evidence at all

00:37:03.720 of actual malice,

00:37:04.620 would constitute really

00:37:05.760 the thinnest of thin reads.

00:37:08.060 I got a question for you.

00:37:09.340 I know how expensive

00:37:10.580 lawyers are in Canada,

00:37:12.060 and I think in the United States

00:37:13.840 they're even more expensive.

00:37:15.300 Litigation is even more overwhelming.

00:37:18.880 This senior citizen,

00:37:21.200 this elderly lady,

00:37:23.200 doesn't look to be

00:37:24.560 a woman of great means.

00:37:26.780 How could she afford

00:37:28.260 to take litigation,

00:37:29.560 as you say,

00:37:30.420 all the way to the doorstep

00:37:32.540 of a trial before the judge said,

00:37:34.180 we're not even going to hear this.

00:37:35.780 This is thrown out.

00:37:36.460 I don't know ordinary Americans 1.00

00:37:39.500 who could sue

00:37:41.720 with that kind of firepower

00:37:43.740 based on their own cash.

00:37:45.920 Do you have any information about that?

00:37:48.280 I mean, that's got to be

00:37:49.320 a couple hundred grand

00:37:50.780 that she miraculously came up with

00:37:52.760 to sue you for.

00:37:54.000 Yeah, I think that the costs

00:37:55.840 of going to trial,

00:37:56.700 I think it's about right.

00:37:57.840 It's in the realm of

00:37:58.500 a couple hundred thousand dollars.

00:38:00.040 Let me say two things on that, Ezra.

00:38:02.460 First, people might be wondering,

00:38:04.420 people need to know,

00:38:05.140 most things don't make it

00:38:06.260 to trial in this country.

00:38:07.260 People settle out of court.

00:38:08.320 I don't settle.

00:38:09.820 I did settle an acorn lawsuit

00:38:11.380 about 10 years ago,

00:38:12.700 and I feel like I made a mistake.

00:38:14.460 I guess you learn from mistakes,

00:38:15.820 but I decided I'm never

00:38:17.360 going to settle a lawsuit again,

00:38:18.960 even if it bankrupts me.

00:38:20.680 I'll go pro se.

00:38:21.880 I'll fight on principle.

00:38:23.420 In other words,

00:38:24.080 I will stand on principle, period.

00:38:27.140 That makes me an unusual client.

00:38:29.180 Most people,

00:38:29.980 most major corporations,

00:38:31.340 including the New York Times,

00:38:33.120 will settle lawsuits

00:38:34.180 because it just doesn't make sense

00:38:35.500 to spend a couple hundred thousand dollars

00:38:38.160 when you can give someone

00:38:39.640 25,000 bucks

00:38:40.660 and everyone's happy.

00:38:42.100 But I decided

00:38:42.840 I'm not going to do that.

00:38:44.620 I'm going to stand on principle

00:38:46.320 and appeal it all the way

00:38:47.420 to the Fourth Circuit

00:38:48.100 Court of Appeals

00:38:48.700 because I did nothing wrong.

00:38:50.700 In fact,

00:38:51.680 I am standing up

00:38:53.220 for something

00:38:54.000 that's greater

00:38:54.720 than the first norm,

00:38:55.460 and I'm standing up

00:38:56.060 for the ability

00:38:57.020 for citizens

00:38:57.640 to be treated equally

00:38:58.740 under the law.

00:39:00.060 If I report

00:39:00.840 what someone tells me,

00:39:01.900 I'm not going to apologize

00:39:03.500 or write checks

00:39:04.820 to people,

00:39:06.180 settle lawsuits.

00:39:07.620 So,

00:39:08.240 your question was,

00:39:09.240 the second point was,

00:39:10.480 well,

00:39:10.860 how can she afford it?

00:39:11.760 I don't have any evidence

00:39:13.800 that someone's paying her bills.

00:39:15.920 I do think something's afoot

00:39:17.420 when there are

00:39:18.460 half a dozen lawyers

00:39:19.940 working for her,

00:39:22.100 some of whom

00:39:22.760 are from Ohio,

00:39:24.400 Bernie Sanders

00:39:25.120 affiliated individual.

00:39:27.020 This one guy

00:39:27.760 in the case

00:39:28.320 was actually

00:39:28.940 a Sanders surrogate.

00:39:31.320 Teeter testified

00:39:32.060 that she was

00:39:32.780 a supporter

00:39:33.280 of Bernie Sanders.

00:39:34.560 So,

00:39:35.200 yes,

00:39:35.880 it's very,

00:39:37.040 very confusing

00:39:38.340 on how there are

00:39:39.660 so many lawyers.

00:39:40.820 I had two lawyers

00:39:42.700 and one of them

00:39:43.220 was blind.

00:39:44.020 It was like something

00:39:44.660 out of a movie.

00:39:46.100 And we won.

00:39:47.400 So,

00:39:47.800 yes,

00:39:48.340 there's some serious

00:39:49.080 questions there,

00:39:49.800 Ezra.

00:39:50.080 Yeah,

00:39:50.320 I mean,

00:39:50.640 if you say

00:39:51.580 there were as many

00:39:52.500 as six lawyers

00:39:53.080 against you,

00:39:54.080 that's what

00:39:54.800 a multinational

00:39:55.720 bank has

00:39:56.920 in complex litigation,

00:39:59.440 I just,

00:40:00.180 my BS detector

00:40:01.560 is going ping,

00:40:02.160 ping,

00:40:02.360 ping,

00:40:02.580 ping,

00:40:02.820 ping.

00:40:03.140 That was another

00:40:04.000 political move.

00:40:04.800 Well,

00:40:04.880 I got a question

00:40:05.340 for you

00:40:05.780 about the legal process.

00:40:07.700 In Canada,

00:40:08.760 if you file

00:40:09.820 a false lawsuit,

00:40:10.780 if you lose,

00:40:12.620 one of the better things

00:40:14.860 about Canada's

00:40:15.700 civil litigation

00:40:16.900 system in every province

00:40:18.480 is that the loser

00:40:19.880 has to pay costs

00:40:21.600 of the winner.

00:40:23.260 In the United States,

00:40:24.620 does that apply?

00:40:25.440 So this Shirley Teeter, 0.94

00:40:27.200 she puts you

00:40:28.000 through the grinder.

00:40:28.880 I know that lawyers

00:40:29.900 are a huge part

00:40:31.840 of your budget

00:40:32.460 to defend your journalism.

00:40:34.160 Was she ordered

00:40:35.560 at all

00:40:36.120 to pay any costs

00:40:37.520 to you?

00:40:39.000 Not yet.

00:40:40.200 In the other litigation,

00:40:42.320 the judge hasn't

00:40:43.540 even issued

00:40:44.020 his formal order.

00:40:45.200 He did rule

00:40:46.320 and he dismissed

00:40:47.040 the case

00:40:47.560 and there's a transcript

00:40:48.360 of his remarks,

00:40:49.160 which,

00:40:49.420 by the way,

00:40:49.820 you must read.

00:40:50.700 This is the transcript

00:40:52.400 of the Rule 50

00:40:53.240 proceeding,

00:40:54.120 which is basically

00:40:55.060 just throwing it out

00:40:57.220 of court

00:40:57.640 before it goes

00:40:58.200 to the jury.

00:40:59.340 But he hasn't actually

00:41:00.140 written the order yet.

00:41:01.440 That's a formal document

00:41:02.840 which will come out

00:41:03.780 and then maybe

00:41:05.280 they'll try to appeal

00:41:06.280 the decision.

00:41:07.440 But the judge

00:41:08.420 said about that,

00:41:10.460 if the appeals court

00:41:12.640 overturns

00:41:13.480 what I have decided,

00:41:15.220 I can't imagine

00:41:16.480 where we're going

00:41:17.040 in the First Amendment

00:41:17.720 in this country.

00:41:18.220 We have gotten

00:41:19.280 fees back

00:41:20.480 in a lot of the cases

00:41:22.100 that we've litigated,

00:41:23.100 not all of them,

00:41:23.900 but some of them

00:41:24.620 and people don't realize

00:41:26.800 that when they sue me,

00:41:27.960 they never imagined

00:41:28.860 in their wildest imagination

00:41:30.280 they'd be paying me.

00:41:32.760 So that's one of the most

00:41:34.840 extraordinary things

00:41:35.820 about this, Ezra.

00:41:36.760 People,

00:41:37.780 there are emails

00:41:38.740 that are going to come out

00:41:39.560 next week.

00:41:40.200 We do plan,

00:41:41.000 I'm just teasing this,

00:41:41.720 we do have emails

00:41:42.440 showing coordination

00:41:43.380 of lawsuits against me.

00:41:44.820 It's pretty extraordinary.

00:41:45.840 It's like out of a

00:41:48.220 John Grisham novel

00:41:49.200 except if you brought

00:41:50.800 the screenplay to Hollywood

00:41:52.000 people would laugh at you

00:41:53.020 because it's so outrageous

00:41:54.160 and it's so unbelievable

00:41:55.440 that people would say

00:41:56.760 this is not real.

00:41:58.160 Like,

00:41:58.640 truth is stranger than fiction.

00:42:00.060 They coordinated lawsuits

00:42:01.480 against me

00:42:02.180 in order to bankrupt me

00:42:03.560 and they said

00:42:04.520 in these emails

00:42:05.340 we're going to try

00:42:06.360 to find ways around

00:42:07.280 his insurance company

00:42:08.500 such that we can harm O'Keefe.

00:42:11.180 And listen,

00:42:11.740 that might be something

00:42:12.580 that I sue them for

00:42:14.120 but I don't want to get lost

00:42:15.560 in litigation.

00:42:16.280 I want to focus

00:42:16.820 on what I'm doing.

00:42:17.780 I want to stop people

00:42:18.700 from suing me.

00:42:19.500 I think this is going

00:42:20.140 to successfully stop

00:42:21.400 future lawsuits

00:42:22.900 because I don't think

00:42:23.760 people want to pay

00:42:24.860 money out of their pocket

00:42:26.620 and that's exactly

00:42:27.760 what they're now

00:42:28.320 being forced to do

00:42:29.060 by bringing frivolous

00:42:30.180 and malicious claims

00:42:31.660 against me.

00:42:32.520 Yeah,

00:42:32.700 well if it's being bankrolled

00:42:33.900 by someone like,

00:42:35.080 I don't know,

00:42:35.520 a George Soros

00:42:36.240 or a Tom Steyer,

00:42:37.680 you know,

00:42:37.920 a few million dollars

00:42:38.700 in costs,

00:42:39.280 that's just a cost

00:42:40.980 of doing business

00:42:41.560 for those folks.

00:42:42.980 I don't want you

00:42:44.780 to give away confidences

00:42:46.700 but I can tell you

00:42:48.500 and we post this

00:42:49.260 on our financial disclosure

00:42:50.580 at the rebel.media

00:42:52.100 slash trust.

00:42:53.660 We spend,

00:42:54.980 and I know this is peanuts

00:42:55.960 compared to you,

00:42:57.240 we spent about

00:42:57.900 $350,000

00:42:59.420 on lawyers last year,

00:43:01.420 almost all of them

00:43:02.840 on defensive actions

00:43:04.560 whether it was,

00:43:05.700 you know,

00:43:06.600 someone like

00:43:07.220 the election commissioner

00:43:08.460 in Alberta

00:43:09.080 roughing us up

00:43:10.740 or whether it was

00:43:12.140 civil actions

00:43:12.820 against people

00:43:13.420 who physically assaulted

00:43:14.580 one of our reporters.

00:43:17.020 Litigation

00:43:17.540 is our second largest cost

00:43:20.360 after journalists.

00:43:21.180 We pay more

00:43:21.800 for lawyers

00:43:23.120 than we do

00:43:23.760 for rent.

00:43:25.460 Right.

00:43:25.800 Like you,

00:43:26.400 we want to be journalists

00:43:27.440 but we are so attacked

00:43:28.920 all the time,

00:43:30.060 we need lawyers

00:43:31.140 as a bodyguard.

00:43:32.100 Is it the same for you?

00:43:33.280 Are you at liberty

00:43:33.920 to tell us

00:43:34.640 how much you're forced

00:43:35.820 to spend to defend

00:43:36.680 your First Amendment rights?

00:43:38.000 Well, I'm a very

00:43:39.180 transparent person.

00:43:40.920 I don't have a problem

00:43:41.940 with getting into

00:43:42.660 that information.

00:43:43.560 I'm a non-profit organization

00:43:45.000 and our financial disclosures

00:43:47.120 are all public.

00:43:47.860 My salary is public.

00:43:48.860 My board of directors

00:43:49.540 are public.

00:43:50.580 We spend about as much

00:43:51.800 on legal

00:43:53.000 as we do on payroll

00:43:53.920 and we have a few dozen people

00:43:55.420 so it's in the millions

00:43:57.900 of dollars.

00:43:59.080 It's in the millions

00:43:59.720 of dollars.

00:44:00.140 And people might go,

00:44:00.780 oh my God,

00:44:01.460 that's so much money

00:44:02.320 and I say,

00:44:03.200 that is the cost of freedom.

00:44:04.720 That is the cost

00:44:05.380 of the First Amendment.

00:44:06.200 That's what happens

00:44:06.860 when you stand on principle.

00:44:08.420 Now, it's not going

00:44:08.980 to always be that much.

00:44:10.480 We have not gotten sued

00:44:11.640 in the last 18 months

00:44:13.440 and that's partially

00:44:14.240 because we're bulletproof

00:44:15.380 and that's also because

00:44:16.620 I haven't settled

00:44:18.040 and people are seeing that.

00:44:19.540 Make no mistake, Ezra,

00:44:21.440 my adversaries,

00:44:22.720 and I hate to call them that,

00:44:23.800 but they consider

00:44:24.520 the First Amendment

00:44:25.420 to be an adversary

00:44:26.160 so they make that choice.

00:44:27.740 My adversaries

00:44:28.640 are probably

00:44:30.920 with their mouths open

00:44:32.780 watching all this,

00:44:35.060 thinking to themselves,

00:44:35.880 I can't believe

00:44:36.940 that we tried

00:44:37.520 to hurt O'Keefe,

00:44:39.320 but now we're giving him

00:44:41.000 all these gifts

00:44:41.920 because the statement

00:44:44.060 by the Article 3

00:44:45.200 appointed federal judge,

00:44:46.460 and you have to read

00:44:47.360 this transcript,

00:44:48.020 I'll put it out

00:44:48.580 in the next 24 hours,

00:44:50.140 saying that it would be

00:44:51.620 irresponsible for me

00:44:52.900 to have done it

00:44:53.500 any differently.

00:44:54.400 It would be irresponsible

00:44:55.580 for me to opine

00:44:56.860 as opposed to report

00:44:58.940 the quotes

00:45:00.220 out of the guy's own mouth.

00:45:01.540 This is now giving

00:45:03.660 as a testament

00:45:04.880 and a vindication

00:45:05.960 of our methods

00:45:06.740 in a way that I never

00:45:08.120 could have anticipated.

00:45:09.480 So in many ways,

00:45:10.600 I'm grateful

00:45:11.240 that they've sued me.

00:45:12.560 I'm grateful

00:45:13.260 that they have now

00:45:14.180 sent a beacon

00:45:15.300 to the world

00:45:16.120 that if you sue

00:45:17.340 Project Veritas

00:45:18.840 with a meritless claim,

00:45:21.660 you will pay.

00:45:22.660 You sue,

00:45:23.660 you pay,

00:45:24.480 and we get vindication.

00:45:25.760 That's the message

00:45:27.140 being sent out,

00:45:28.440 and I hate to fatten

00:45:30.940 the pockets of lawyers,

00:45:32.760 but I'm proud of our attorneys

00:45:34.820 for what they've done.

00:45:35.840 It's the cost of freedom.

00:45:37.120 It's the cost

00:45:37.660 of the First Amendment,

00:45:39.020 and it's baked into the cost

00:45:40.780 of doing our investigative reporting,

00:45:42.600 and I can't tell you

00:45:43.820 how many warm and kind notes

00:45:45.380 I've gotten from our supporters,

00:45:46.880 thousands of donors

00:45:47.640 across the country.

00:45:48.980 They are so proud

00:45:50.260 to have donated to us

00:45:51.920 even though 30%

00:45:53.500 of our budget is legal.

00:45:54.600 They're proud of that

00:45:56.340 because it's all part

00:45:57.880 of a greater destiny

00:45:58.940 to stand on principle,

00:46:00.700 stand for truth,

00:46:01.520 and show the country

00:46:02.560 that we stand for the truth.

00:46:06.120 Yeah.

00:46:06.340 Well, it's interesting

00:46:07.260 if I understand you right,

00:46:09.120 the judge is saying

00:46:09.940 the fact that you showed

00:46:11.440 the primary footage

00:46:13.120 of this Democratic operative

00:46:15.220 saying it

00:46:16.080 was your bulletproof vest,

00:46:19.020 and that's a credit

00:46:20.260 to the fact

00:46:20.760 that you film everything,

00:46:21.900 you show everything.

00:46:22.680 Yes.

00:46:22.920 Am I understanding you right there?

00:46:24.240 That's a huge point.

00:46:25.220 Yeah, I mean,

00:46:25.620 and we're going to put out

00:46:26.660 a video shortly

00:46:28.080 that lays out,

00:46:29.240 we're going to quote the judge

00:46:30.380 and put it all together.

00:46:31.340 It's almost like

00:46:31.820 a little mini 48 hours episode.

00:46:34.200 I mean,

00:46:34.500 I can't even tell you

00:46:35.660 how powerful this judge was.

00:46:37.240 I mean,

00:46:38.020 he basically said that,

00:46:39.720 he said something

00:46:40.600 to the effect of,

00:46:41.520 we preserve the videotape.

00:46:43.640 I mean,

00:46:44.120 I film everything

00:46:45.060 and people attack me for it,

00:46:46.420 but if I don't,

00:46:47.140 can you imagine?

00:46:48.080 Yeah.

00:46:48.300 Can you imagine

00:46:49.060 if I didn't have

00:46:50.020 the raw recording

00:46:51.000 of Scott Fulval

00:46:52.480 referring,

00:46:53.680 clearly referring

00:46:54.260 to this woman?

00:46:54.980 Yeah.

00:46:55.400 How would I be able

00:46:56.160 to defend myself in court?

00:46:57.560 They wouldn't believe me.

00:46:58.920 They would throw everything

00:46:59.860 but the kitchen sink

00:47:00.700 in my credibility.

00:47:01.820 So,

00:47:02.420 it's just such a vindication

00:47:05.020 of everything that I do

00:47:06.420 because I film people

00:47:08.200 because if I don't

00:47:09.760 and make claims about them,

00:47:11.600 no one would believe me.

00:47:12.760 They'd just sue me

00:47:13.420 for defamation.

00:47:14.340 Yeah.

00:47:14.680 So,

00:47:14.980 you can't have it both ways.

00:47:16.360 You can't attack my methods.

00:47:18.460 You can't say

00:47:19.100 you're not allowed

00:47:19.640 to film people

00:47:20.440 but also say,

00:47:22.500 you know,

00:47:23.100 you've lied about people

00:47:24.300 because I have to,

00:47:25.540 you know,

00:47:25.720 so it's just

00:47:26.360 the whole thing's a vindication.

00:47:27.540 We're going to put out

00:47:28.000 a video in the next,

00:47:29.320 you know,

00:47:30.660 tonight or tomorrow morning

00:47:31.660 articulating all this

00:47:33.340 and it's a pretty powerful day.

00:47:34.860 Yeah.

00:47:35.180 It's like a cop

00:47:36.140 wearing a body cam.

00:47:37.720 It stops the suspect

00:47:39.240 from lying about the cop.

00:47:40.720 I'm a big fan

00:47:41.580 of those body cams.

00:47:42.720 Well,

00:47:42.980 listen,

00:47:43.460 I'm grateful for your time.

00:47:44.560 And I was very happy

00:47:45.580 to see this news.

00:47:46.300 I think you're now

00:47:46.760 six wins in a row.

00:47:48.680 Am I right on that?

00:47:50.420 Yes.

00:47:50.680 We've defeated

00:47:51.260 a Common Core lady 0.86

00:47:52.400 in California,

00:47:53.840 actually a couple of them.

00:47:55.220 We've overturned

00:47:56.620 the law in Massachusetts

00:47:57.460 to prohibit filming.

00:47:59.460 We've won

00:48:00.000 on summary judgment

00:48:00.940 against a teacher's union guy

00:48:02.380 who cursed

00:48:02.960 about a student

00:48:04.080 and we won that lawsuit.

00:48:05.620 We've won

00:48:06.100 in this litigation

00:48:06.860 a jury verdict,

00:48:09.020 not guilty

00:48:09.860 of defamation,

00:48:11.220 a directed verdict,

00:48:12.360 and a couple

00:48:13.760 other ones

00:48:14.240 I can't remember there,

00:48:15.200 but we have won

00:48:15.760 every single lawsuit

00:48:16.740 that we have litigated.

00:48:17.680 We're basically

00:48:18.300 six and oh

00:48:19.020 and then some

00:48:20.140 and we're going to win

00:48:21.320 the Democracy Partners case

00:48:22.420 next,

00:48:22.840 which is about

00:48:23.420 whether we had

00:48:23.880 a fiduciary duty

00:48:24.760 to someone

00:48:25.180 by filming them.

00:48:26.780 That's incredible.

00:48:27.520 These are absurd issues

00:48:29.420 but we're winning

00:48:29.900 every time

00:48:30.460 and I'm excited

00:48:31.280 to report that.

00:48:32.440 You know,

00:48:32.620 the fact that you're sued

00:48:33.580 is irritating.

00:48:34.500 I use the phrase 0.74

00:48:35.340 lawfare,

00:48:36.340 but the fact that you're winning

00:48:37.920 is not only vindication

00:48:39.920 for you,

00:48:40.440 but it's vindication,

00:48:41.300 as you say,

00:48:42.260 of the First Amendment,

00:48:43.360 something we do not have

00:48:44.640 here in Canada.

00:48:46.060 And had we,

00:48:47.040 if we did have

00:48:48.480 the First Amendment,

00:48:49.560 I know that not only

00:48:50.780 would we be

00:48:51.560 spending less money

00:48:52.900 on frivolous lawsuits,

00:48:55.200 but we would be

00:48:56.000 more successful

00:48:56.740 and there would be

00:48:57.520 more bolder journalists.

00:48:59.520 The lack of the First Amendment

00:49:00.720 is, I believe,

00:49:02.320 the greatest flaw

00:49:03.420 of Canada's democracy.

00:49:04.800 We're a wonderful country

00:49:05.800 and I don't want

00:49:06.700 to become American.

00:49:07.780 I love Americans,

00:49:08.700 but I like being a Canadian.

00:49:10.020 But our lack

00:49:11.020 of a First Amendment

00:49:11.780 and the defense

00:49:12.700 it's given you

00:49:13.420 that you've just outlined,

00:49:14.780 I think is the greatest problem

00:49:16.360 with being a Canadian.

00:49:18.500 Last word to you, James.

00:49:20.240 Maybe say something

00:49:21.040 to our viewers,

00:49:22.900 some of who might be thinking

00:49:23.920 about becoming citizen

00:49:25.060 journalists themselves.

00:49:26.080 What words would you have

00:49:27.700 for them?

00:49:29.300 I've learned some things

00:49:30.380 this week.

00:49:31.080 You probably have seen me

00:49:32.500 interviewed before,

00:49:33.220 so I don't want to repeat

00:49:34.420 everything I've always said

00:49:35.420 about what I do,

00:49:36.460 but I've learned

00:49:37.420 some things this week.

00:49:38.600 There were principles

00:49:39.960 on trial here.

00:49:41.760 There were fundamental principles.

00:49:43.260 It was not just about me.

00:49:44.600 I've learned about the law.

00:49:45.800 I mean, go through a jury trial.

00:49:47.000 You learn a lot about evidence.

00:49:48.100 You learn a lot about logic.

00:49:50.080 You learn a lot about emotion

00:49:51.260 and sympathy

00:49:51.920 and how they play to jurors.

00:49:53.640 And what I learned was

00:49:55.520 is that there were certain

00:49:57.140 fundamental things

00:49:58.400 on trial here.

00:50:00.120 And there are forces

00:50:01.040 in the United States

00:50:02.360 that want to strip away

00:50:05.000 certain liberties

00:50:05.840 that we have.

00:50:07.260 And they wanted me

00:50:09.660 to be treated differently

00:50:10.820 under the law.

00:50:11.760 They wanted me

00:50:12.660 not to be given

00:50:13.520 certain First Amendment

00:50:14.560 protections

00:50:15.100 simply because

00:50:16.360 they disagreed

00:50:17.320 with the effects

00:50:19.220 or public policy outcomes

00:50:21.180 of what we exposed.

00:50:23.300 That was on trial,

00:50:25.120 not me.

00:50:26.300 That was on trial.

00:50:27.500 The law is blind

00:50:28.780 and so is my attorney.

00:50:30.540 My attorney is actually

00:50:31.440 a blind guy,

00:50:32.080 which is very metaphorical,

00:50:33.520 fitting, I suppose.

00:50:34.800 The law is supposed

00:50:35.800 to be blind.

00:50:37.280 And the reason why

00:50:38.220 this is so sweet,

00:50:39.300 the reason why

00:50:39.880 this victory is so just

00:50:41.440 is that all across

00:50:42.800 the country,

00:50:43.380 we require citizens

00:50:44.940 to go out there

00:50:45.780 and do this sort of work

00:50:47.460 because the media

00:50:48.140 won't do it.

00:50:49.180 And they're trying

00:50:49.680 to put us on trial,

00:50:51.240 the citizens of this country.

00:50:53.000 And we won.

00:50:54.000 And that's a very

00:50:54.740 important victory.

00:50:55.720 And I hope you guys

00:50:56.740 go out there,

00:50:57.360 go to projectveritas.com

00:50:58.980 slash brave.

00:50:59.760 If you're on the inside

00:51:00.800 of Facebook,

00:51:02.260 Google,

00:51:03.300 Twitter,

00:51:04.800 the government agencies

00:51:05.920 and you want to

00:51:06.660 blow the whistle,

00:51:07.680 you can be a citizen journalist.

00:51:09.220 I will hire you

00:51:10.060 and I will pay

00:51:10.660 your legal bills

00:51:11.320 and I'll have your back.

00:51:12.240 I've never,

00:51:12.720 ever abandoned

00:51:13.800 the back of my people

00:51:14.920 and my record

00:51:16.020 and my actions

00:51:16.820 winning every lawsuit

00:51:18.320 speaks to that.

00:51:20.220 So thank you very much

00:51:21.020 for having me on, Ezra.

00:51:21.920 Well, it's great

00:51:22.440 to see you again.

00:51:23.300 Congratulations.

00:51:24.160 Appreciate you taking

00:51:24.880 the time out of your

00:51:25.560 very busy day

00:51:26.220 to be with us.

00:51:27.280 You're a role model

00:51:27.980 to so many of us,

00:51:29.320 including to me personally.

00:51:30.720 Thanks, my friend.

00:51:31.940 Thank you.

00:51:32.540 All right.

00:51:32.860 There you have it.

00:51:33.900 That's James O'Keefe.

00:51:35.080 He's the founder

00:51:35.960 of projectveritas.com

00:51:38.780 and he has notched up

00:51:41.000 another win

00:51:41.940 in the battle

00:51:42.860 for free speech.

00:51:44.260 Stay with us.

00:51:45.460 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:51:57.540 Hey, welcome back

00:51:58.380 to my monologue yesterday

00:51:59.240 about Justin Trudeau

00:52:00.020 getting ready to bring

00:52:00.780 ISIS terrorists

00:52:01.700 back to Canada.

00:52:03.060 Linda writes,

00:52:03.660 Trudeau and his gang

00:52:05.320 have done

00:52:05.800 and are doing so

00:52:07.180 many things to Canada

00:52:08.360 that are disturbing

00:52:09.180 to all who love

00:52:09.840 truth and freedom,

00:52:10.680 but the way he treats

00:52:11.420 veterans is way

00:52:12.200 beyond the pale.

00:52:13.820 Yeah, you know what?

00:52:14.960 And I think he gets

00:52:16.940 that from his father.

00:52:18.100 You may recall

00:52:18.800 that when his dad

00:52:20.360 was young,

00:52:21.020 I mean,

00:52:21.600 Pierre Trudeau

00:52:22.360 was so much older

00:52:23.400 than Justin Trudeau.

00:52:24.660 I mean, remember,

00:52:26.200 Trudeau married,

00:52:28.080 Pierre Trudeau

00:52:28.580 married Margaret Trudeau.

00:52:29.900 There was a huge

00:52:30.540 age gap.

00:52:31.040 So, Pierre Trudeau,

00:52:34.060 as you may know,

00:52:34.580 was a young man

00:52:35.420 during the Second World War

00:52:37.060 and he was against

00:52:38.680 conscription, obviously.

00:52:40.500 He was against

00:52:41.080 fighting for

00:52:41.820 the English queen,

00:52:43.600 even though it was

00:52:44.180 France that was overrun.

00:52:45.520 And he would drive

00:52:46.840 around Montreal,

00:52:49.460 Pierre Trudeau did,

00:52:50.560 on a motorcycle

00:52:51.560 wearing a Nazi helmet.

00:52:56.720 Now, I don't think

00:52:57.340 he was a Nazi, 0.89

00:52:58.060 although we know

00:52:58.520 he's an authoritarian.

00:52:59.160 It was his mockery

00:53:01.440 of the war,

00:53:02.720 of the war effort,

00:53:03.680 and any chumps 0.95

00:53:04.480 who went to fight.

00:53:05.640 This was part of his

00:53:06.640 contempt for the queen.

00:53:08.740 Of course,

00:53:09.460 the queen didn't lose

00:53:11.080 any soil of

00:53:12.700 the British mainland

00:53:13.840 to the Nazis.

00:53:15.100 It was France 0.92

00:53:15.580 that was overrun.

00:53:16.480 That's how gross

00:53:17.660 Pierre Trudeau was.

00:53:19.260 And I think

00:53:19.720 Justin Trudeau

00:53:20.720 inherited that

00:53:22.080 contempt from his dad,

00:53:24.140 that contempt

00:53:24.700 for the armed forces.

00:53:27.040 Geth writes,

00:53:27.800 disgusting behavior,

00:53:29.580 strip their citizenship. 0.53

00:53:31.020 I'm UK,

00:53:32.080 and we have

00:53:32.440 the same crap here.

00:53:34.240 Well, I actually

00:53:35.200 think in the UK

00:53:36.020 there is a law

00:53:37.580 that if someone

00:53:38.100 has joint citizenship,

00:53:39.600 dual citizenship,

00:53:40.800 as in they're

00:53:41.260 a British citizen

00:53:41.940 and a foreign citizen,

00:53:43.440 if they're a terrorist,

00:53:45.100 the Brits can remove 0.97

00:53:46.160 their citizenship.

00:53:47.180 Australia has

00:53:47.840 the same law,

00:53:48.460 if I'm not mistaken.

00:53:49.780 Harper brought in

00:53:50.680 the same law,

00:53:51.320 but Justin Trudeau

00:53:52.120 said, no, no, no,

00:53:52.780 these terrorists

00:53:53.440 are good people.

00:53:54.340 We won't strip

00:53:54.860 their citizenship.

00:53:55.860 Remember,

00:53:56.140 it won't make them stateless.

00:53:57.320 They'll still have

00:53:57.840 a foreign passport too,

00:53:59.540 but no,

00:53:59.880 Trudeau wants them here.

00:54:01.220 He positively

00:54:02.220 wants them here.

00:54:03.620 He says they have

00:54:04.220 a powerful voice

00:54:04.940 that we should listen to.

00:54:07.160 Liza writes,

00:54:08.600 yeah, we don't prosecute them,

00:54:09.740 only insult,

00:54:10.800 our insult of a PM

00:54:12.240 gives them medals

00:54:13.260 and money.

00:54:15.540 It's true,

00:54:16.300 but as I tried

00:54:16.980 to point out yesterday,

00:54:17.920 I'm not sure

00:54:18.360 if I was clear,

00:54:19.320 maybe I read

00:54:19.800 too much law,

00:54:21.080 but what I was

00:54:22.260 trying to show you

00:54:22.880 is how easy

00:54:24.700 it is to prosecute

00:54:25.880 a returning terrorist.

00:54:27.120 You don't have to prove

00:54:28.100 that they did anything.

00:54:29.960 You just have to prove

00:54:30.820 that they went to help,

00:54:32.300 that they tried

00:54:32.940 to leave to help,

00:54:33.780 that they were part

00:54:34.900 of an organization,

00:54:35.900 that they,

00:54:36.460 they don't even have

00:54:37.340 to have achieved anything

00:54:39.100 if they were doing

00:54:40.260 something that could have

00:54:41.160 or would have

00:54:41.660 or was meant to assist

00:54:43.100 a terrorist group.

00:54:43.680 They're guilty.

00:54:44.260 Ten years in prison

00:54:45.000 just for that.

00:54:46.160 We don't have to prove

00:54:47.000 who they murdered

00:54:47.540 and who they raped.

00:54:48.360 That's impossible

00:54:48.960 to do legally.

00:54:50.240 Every one of these

00:54:51.240 ISIS returnees,

00:54:52.140 by the fact that

00:54:52.680 they're returning

00:54:53.360 from over there.

00:54:55.040 Unless they have

00:54:55.800 some stark proof

00:54:57.320 that they were doing

00:54:58.200 something else

00:54:58.820 like humanitarian work,

00:55:00.440 which none of them

00:55:00.920 do, obviously.

00:55:02.400 Every one of them

00:55:03.300 simply by virtue

00:55:04.140 of returning from there.

00:55:06.080 That's all you need

00:55:07.340 to convict them.

00:55:08.960 And yet we don't have

00:55:09.520 a single prosecution.

00:55:10.600 That's a disgrace.

00:55:12.440 Well, that's the show

00:55:13.300 for today.

00:55:14.160 I look forward

00:55:14.760 to your thoughts on it.

00:55:15.580 If you have any,

00:55:16.460 feel free to email

00:55:17.180 at Ezra

00:55:18.100 at TheRebel.media.

00:55:19.000 Until next time,

00:55:20.180 on behalf of all of us

00:55:21.200 here, good night

00:55:22.580 and keep fighting

00:55:24.020 for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - May 24, 2019

In 24 hours, Trudeau threatens news media he hates, bribes news media he likes — and he’s coming to kill The Rebel

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